Looks like Shelley wanted Ron’s Autograph, lol. Can u guys fill me in on what wetn on at Sardo’s last night? I know a date with jessica drake was up for auction, what else was? And who bid high and won the big items? How much money was raised?
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Shelley outbid herself twice to win the date with Ron Jeremy, putting those Pink Cross dollars to good use.
I love the fact that this happily married Christian woman — an anti-porn crusader and self-described “Rebel prophet” — is pictured here dressed up like a porn star while getting her big plastic boob autographed by a Jewish porn star who can (or used to be able to) suck his own cock OUTSIDE THE TOILET OF A BURBANK BAR.
This woman who refuses to repudiate the White Power websites that support her because she’s taking on “the Jewish-controlled porn industry” gets her chest signed by a Jewish porn star while taking a break from cozying up to Mr. Marcus at the event.
Priceless.
BUSTED!!!!!!!
For what Shelley paid she got Ron to convert his religion. Repeat after me, Ron. “Jesus is the son of God and our Lord and Savior. There can be no other God but the long-haired, hippie-looking Jew who looks like a WASP.” Now, you will be saved!
There’s a ton of video and audio from the event — both professional and amateur. Ronnie’s quote about Shelley: “She’s crazy. It’s like The Twilight Zone.”
@Jeremy – Ronnie is what Lubben calls a “Jewish Treasure.” But it sure must be nice bidding with other people’s money…
Who was that mope standing next to them with his tounge out “Gene Simmons” style? I bet his parents are proud!
That was so much fun! I hung out with Shelly a good part of the night. Good times!
The going price for each porn star was $600-800. It was Sunny Lane, Jessica Drake, Ron Jeremy, Nikki Hunter…..am I forgetting anyone?
I think the time space continuum is starting to break.
well, if worse came to worse in the financial arena for Jeremy or Lubben, the sales of their anticipated adult DVD “Pink Un-Crossed” would put them back in the game in no time.
Oh wow, a woman can’t go to a party and have a friend of hers sign her boobs without the hypocritical atheists coming out condemning her. The people who are or once were in this industry who are now commenting on this have done far worse at porn parties than Shelley was doing there.
You know Ron tweaked a holy nip or two there as he put his John Hancock smack dab on the tits of God.
I got video
🙂
I had a great time with you too, Lucky! Your musical gift blew me away and I had blast dancing with you! In fact I had fun with all of you. I’ve really missed spending time with you guys! Love you.
And it’s that love that drives Shelley to seek to end their ability to earn a living. LOL
@Mike — If there’s any video you’d care to share, I’d love to see it, too.
Now that Shelly had Ron Jeremy sign her tits can she post a pic of her ass? I’ve been dying to see that whooty ever since her conversion. She’s so much more better looking then when she performed as Roxy.
It doesn’t have to be nude…I’m just sayin’, Ron Jeremy got her tits! Ron Jeremy! And that dude’s UG–er, well, a hedgehog. 😉
come on michael…you have to ask
its right where you would expect to find it
http://www.mikesouth.com
Never mind, Mike — I just found ’em. I urge everyone to go to Mike’s site to have a look.
Can Shelly take a quick snap of her ass in the mirror? That would really be awesome!
@origen – Link your request to an offer of a cash donation, and perhaps Shelley would consider it.
@Mike South – We have agreed on a great many things, and disagreed on many others, but our views have never been more in accord than with regard to your latest commentary on Mrs. Lubben at PSK.
I received this great comment on the pic, above, from Miss Lagsalot of Whack Magazine: “Shelley must have been feeling extremely exploited & trafficked when that was taken!”
This, from Tod Hunter: “There was something decidedly WRONG with her that night. She bid $400, then $500, then $600 on the Ron Jeremy date without intervening bids.”
Michael…its like I told Julie Meadows If we agree on everything one of us isnt necessary.
if the world was full of MikeSouth clones or michael whiteacre clones Id wanna kill myself
Absolutely — If two people agree on everything, only one is doing the thinking.
Please let me know if the right to excerpt some of that extraordinary video is available — and if so, I’d like the full-res files. I haven’t seen dancing like that since the ’90s. The stripper moves simply SCREAM: “Married Christian evangelist.”
If it’s an adulterous sin to even LOOK at a woman lustfully, why would a Christian woman dress like that and dance like that?
Michael that video was sent to me by a friend of mikesouth.com. i dont think there would be a problem with you using it but I will ask
it was shot on a cell phone so the footage isnt exactly production quality
email me
@ Michael Whitearce: How is that fair? Shelly PAID Ron Jeremy to sign her tits. Why can’t we see her big butt in some jeans or something? Hell, for all the advertising she gets on LIB, give us something…
Well, since she already dresses “in the manner of a harlot” — most un-Christian of her — I see no good reason why “Jezebel” Lubben WOULDN’T do it strictly for attention.
And, technically, NO, Mrs. Lubben didn’t pay Ron “to sign her tits” — she didn’t actually pay Ron anything that we know of. She paid the benefit organizers $600 for a dinner with Ron on another date.
She offered her married Christian plastic breast to him for free. Outside the toilet of a bar full of “mentally ill” “drug-infested” “disease-ridden” “slaves of Satan.” It’s just the kind of woman she is.
I don’t think she had a boob job. Has she?
Yes, she has. As she details in her book,. she had them “done” first back when she was simply a stripper and LA prostitute, and has had them re-done since.
Meh. Never was much of a titty man anyways…
Stick with Lexi Love, that’s my 2 cents… Her ass is half the size of La Huera Loca’s.
@Lucky — Does it bother you at all that just last month, at a public hearing, Shelley Lubben referred to female adult performers as “young, dumb females who couldn’t read a contract,” and who “can’t even understand words like ‘litigation’ or ‘arbitration'” (in regards to the standard model release used in virtually every adult production)? Have you ever felt utterly baffled by a model release?
I’m serious: do you think her assessment fairly describes you or other performers who have ever had to — oh I don’t know — buy a car or rent an apartment? In short, do you feel victimized when you see big words like “litigation: or “arbitration”?
Because that’s what Shelley thinks.
People can enjoy each others’ company without agreeing with each other about things, Michael. Lucky, who goes to church every Sunday, actually believes that God, as silly as this may sound to some, brought her into porn. At the same time I noticed she and Shelley both had on almost identical little crosses around their necks (equal in size and shape but different in color). I’m sure they could both engage in a friendly but interesting debate.
One of Larry Flynt’s best friends was Jerry Falwell and he was extremely upset when he passed away. Complete opposites can still be friends & go to a party together without agreeing on every single issue.
I’m sure that people could do all that, but that wasn’t my question. My question was about Lucky’s feelings and thoughts about that statement of Shelley’s.
Obviously Lucky has the right to dance with anyone she chooses. It should come as no surprise, however, that I find it unusual — not to mention unwise and unsavory — for someone to party on with someone who 1) wants to destroy the ability of you, your fellow performers, and everyone who has hired you in this industry to earn a living; and 2) by her own statements has made it clear that she thinks you and your friends are idiots, and diseased, mentally ill, drug-infested slaves of satan; and 3) has demonstrated a willingness to use her association — no matter how slight — with any adult performer (even simply having had her picture taken with them at a convention) as evidence of how well-loved she is by adult performers (her alleged constituency) in her fight to destroy this industry AND promote those harmful stereotypes.
I’ll let Lucky speak for herself. Lots of people I’ve been friendly with have been malicious people. I’m also a debate major and enjoy the art. I should’ve been a lawyer because I’d kick ass but it was never a drive within me at the time (I’ve always favored right brain, free creative or athetic stuff) when I was deciding what to do with my life.. besides finally trying to live it outsides the bounds of academics. I can not be hostile to Shelley even if she’s trying to destroy the industry in order to save it, to paraphrase an American Genreal regarding Vietnam, because she’s never personally been hostile to me. And I’ve had so-called friends who have abused me maliciously, way worse and repeatedly. Some believe AHF are trying to do something nobel, and if someone from the AHF, even Weinstein himself, is friendly to me, I’ll return the same to him. You may have some valid points but you gotta handle it like Bruce Lee, with calm, focus and emotional content… don’t ask me what that means…. gotta go….
@Darrah – Someone made that silly analogy to me yesterday, vis-a-vis St. Shelley and Ron Jeremy and the picture above I was happy to provide. The problem with its application to Lubben and the Hedgehog is, of course, that Jerry Falwell never asked Larry Flynt to autograph his nutsack in public outside the toilet of a bar (a bar full of diseased, mentally ill, drug-infested slaves of satan, no less).
The problem with its application to Falwell and Flynt is that they grew to become friends LONG AFTER the hubbub of the court case in which Falwell was initially awarded $200,000 in damages (later overturned) over a 1983 parody Campari ad. They were not cracking open beers together when Falwell was actively trying to cause Flynt financial harm, nor when the US Supreme Court made its landmark ruling in 1988. In Flynt’s own account, the two had been arch-enemies for 15 years before Falwell even touched him — in 1997. They had not even been in the same room together since 1988. THEY WERE ENEMIES AS LONG AS THERE WAS STILL A MAJOR POINT IN CONTENTION.
So, Darrah, and whoever else is curious, once Lubben’s ministry of fear has been vanquished to the dustbin of history, in my personal opinion, ONLY THEN it would it be prudent for anyone in teh adult industry to have ANYTHING to do with her. That’s my opinion. I’ve heard (some of) Jeremy’s. Like the rest of the world, I don’t give a shit about yours, Darrah. For purposes of this thread, I’m only interested in Lucky’s answer(s) to the question(s) I posed.
If Shelley wasnt such a loon, she would be considered a decent looking valley housewife with a nice rack. Wonder if Ron tried to get Shelley for a quickie in the can, if the walls of those bathrooms at Sardos could talk. Maybe Seymour should have cleaned the bathrooms for all the coke residue there from PSK over the years, the money could have saved the place. Of course imagine all the dropped crack rocks outside of the place. Seymour should post a list of which porn stars stiffed the place the most.
Everyone has a right to their own opinion. I’m not completely familiar with Shelley’s work, but I have a vague idea. But for one night, she was there to support PSK. Ron Jeremy and Craig Gross (xxx Church) tour colleges across the country and even though they are on opposing teams on stage, they are good friends in their personal lives. I thought Shelley was great, and we had a blast. I believe in God, but I believe in porn too.
@Lucky – Do you really believe she was actually there to support PSK? The same day she testified before the LA City Council alongside AHF to help shut down porn production?
You say you’re not fully aware of her work — that is a very reasonable answer, and I accept that. However, now that I’ve quoted her in my question to you. Can you give me your true feelings about what she said about people in your industry.
And, as far as I know, Craig Gross didn’t imply or state that Ronnie, and Jeremy, and you, are morons, as well as diseased, mentally ill, drug-infested slaves of satan.
@ Lucky
I have to add something to what Michael is telling you. Are you aware that Lubben has quote mined the crap out of your blog post (about your first time doing anal) to further her own bullshit agenda? I could have said something about it before, but I decided not to, however in light of recent events, I have to say it.
From Shelley’s website under the porn star confessions tab:
Lucky Starr
“I was worried about my first anal scene for quite a few days … then the big moment arrived. It REALLY hurt! I almost quit and said, “I can’t do this”. When it was all over, I was so happy and relieved I was able to do it. But I still have to think if I want to do anal on a regular basis. It did hurt a lot! So will I continue to do anal? Let’s wait for my butt to heal, then we’ll talk.”
Yup that’s quote mining.
She spent a pretty penny on a date with Ron, so there was some good financial support going on. Like I said, everyone’s entitled to their own opinion. But both of us are religious, and anyone who believes in God knows the saying “love thy neighbor”.
@Lucky – Right, but not every one of them actually believes or follows that saying. Biblical quotations can be used for lots of purposes.
I’m glad you can see the good in people, but you might want to check out the post by 3ach right above yours, if you haven’t already. Lubben is ALREADY using you to promote her ministry and rake in donations. Something to consider.
As far as all the things she said about the industry, I just pause then say, “That’s nice”.
@Lucky — By turning the other cheek, you prove yourself to be commendably Christ-like. Thank you for your responses.
I wonder how all those dates went!
I would LOVE to be a fly on the wall on some of those dates.
@Michael,
Lubben is already using YOU to promote her indsutry and rake in donations”
You were talking about YOURSELF werent you Michael? Se just shows clips of your earth shattering documentary(LOL), and passes the collection plate. YOU are one of the best things that ever happened to her fund raising effort. YOU do know that dont you?
@Michael,
WHat do you think of Sharon Mitchel’s comments that “Most of these 18 and 19 year od girls have no idea what they are getting into.” ANd now that have qupted her in my question to you, perhaps you can comment on it?
Of course you know Shelley’s motives, perhaps you could comment on Sharons motives. Well we all know you wont because Sharon was just simply telling the truth. Or is SHaron just telli
http://www.thepinkcross.org/dead-porn-stars-memorial-day
Maybe for one minute we can stop arguing, thank God that WE are still alive, and honor the lives of adult film workers who have died.
Yeah, yeah. You fucked up, whatever.
Those are the Best.Videos.Ever. Her tits almost flew out like nine times!! Every time I looked away because I was afraid I would turn to salt. Praise the tits!!!!!
http://www.thedevilandshelleylubben.com/
Maybe for one minute we can stop arguing, thank God that WE are still alive, and take notice of a hypocrite who uses images of adult film workers who have died (from ANY cause), and lies, and distorts the truth in order to rake in donations to her ministry of fear.
@Fartz – Those are the Tits of G-d! Just like the pic where Shelley had her mascara running down her face — her comment was that those crocodile tears were “the tears of Jesus.” You were wise to look away from the blasphemer, good Sir.
At least now we have some idea of what those dances she does at home for Yahweh (before the 24-hour lit altar she built) actually look like.
@Joe Know – As you well know, there’s quite a difference between saying that young people lack the wisdom and perspective of older people with regard to an “adult” business, and saying that they aren’t capable of understanding the simple language that they run into very often in everyday life (or implying something sinister in the motives of an industry which uses extremely common boilerplate language in a simple model release).
I’ll simply leave you with a favorite lyric, concerning that dying art of criticism:
I’ll probably play along, left to my own devices
Spare me the drone of your advice
The sins of garter and gin, confession may delay
You know the measuring pole, the merry boots of clay
I’ve heard it all before, you’ll say it anyway
Completely Off Topic.
The donkey is attacking XPT with a bot this very instant that is spamming the forum every two or so seconds and him and someone posting under “freepornstarpix” that I’m pretty sure is not Tara are posting all kinds of things in the shoutbox. Hurry over there if you want Donkey’s dads address, or facebook alt, or whatever. I’m grabbing my popcorn and going back over. I will write these down if anyone wants to somehow exchange emails with me.
@Lucky – As for Lubben being there “to support PSK,” here’s an excerpt from her hilarious press release about it:
“Pink Cross stopped off in downtown LA to grab outfits to go to Sardo’s Bar in Burbank to reach out to the porn stars who would be attending a fundraiser at Porn Star Karaoke. (Sardos is the first place Pink Cross started doing outreach to porn stars and has been so helpful in the rescue of women and men out of porn.)
“That’s right, by day we’re fighting porn, by night we’re rescuing porn stars!
“Yes, God can use a bar where porn stars hang out and sing karaoke to preach the gospel and show His great love for them. In fact, Ron Jeremy got up and played Amazing Grace on his harmonica to Shelley!
“We had an awesome time with the porn stars and especially wanted them to know that we – we love them with the love of Christ and that they are made for greater things than porn.”
No mention of the boob signing, no mention of her blowing $600 on a date with Ron Jeremy.
Her press release also used one of the pics published exclusively in my Facebook photo album devoted to the evening — which has a disastrous effect on her ability to stop me from using her pics in my noncommercial endeavor (“The Devil and Shelley Lubben”) — here she is using one of the photos I exclusively published to promote an organization that pays her and her hapless husband. A real genius we have here, folks.
Well, she’s certainly promoting her appearance there without any of the little details.
Shelley, after being raised Catholic for 15 years, I know the stink of Sin when I smell it.
You stank, girl.
Kids……. play nice.
Lucky won a date with me at PSK that night, too. It only cost her two drinks and a blow job!
@Lucky
ohhhhhhh ok. **kicks dust, wallows out to the backyard**
OK, so let me get this straight, Ms. Lubben.
Going to a porn fundraising event, giving up nearly 600 bucks to win a date with Ron Jeremy, dancing like you remember “Roxy’s” old moves, and generally partying like a porn girl in heat…that’s your idea of “witnessing” for God???
And all this after lying through your teeth, AGAIN, and slandering active porn performers in order to force condoms down their throats??
Enjoy your double life, Ministeress, because hypocrisy will catch up with you sooner than later.
And to Darrah: There’s absolutely nothing wrong with a woman having a good time and blowing off some steam. Actually, I hope that Shelley enjoyed herself. But, when you preach the Gospel of Puritan sexual modesty and want to impose those policies on others, it doesn’t look too good when you are unwilling to play by those same rules yourself.
It’s not the Sharpie on the tits or the dancing…it’s the hypocrisy.
Anthony
Pics, Shelly! Pics or GTFO!
@origen – NO! Please, no Lubben ass shots. I’d rather watch the unrated version of Martyrs again after eating carnival food.
@Anthony – You are right on the money.
@slubben – It’s the hypocrisy, stupid.
Sorry, bro. I got a thing for whootys. Carry on.
Hey Origen, I think its time to start a new documentary while I wait for another to never finish… Can we get you on video giving us a “Whooty to dat booty!” facial expression and kid with a free pass to the entire candy store kind of behavior?
63 comments of this thread and only 17 from Micheal whiteacre. Same as his youtube videos. He comments more on his own ‘documentary’ than all the other commenters combined. LOL
It is obvious now that Michael and Shelley are working together. You had us fooled for a while Michael, but nobody would be helping Shelley as nuch as you do without being part of her ‘group.’ And that chance meeting at the Rainbow is classic. You two make as good a team as Ronnie and Craig. Michaels ‘documentary’ oops I mean amatuer attempt at a documentary was nothing more than a tool for Shelley to use to show her supporters how evil people in the industry are out to vilify her, and then she passes the collection plate.
Good work Michael, you had us fooled for a while. I cant beleive I fell for it too, but it is just to obvious now to ignore.
If I’m helping her so much, why is she working so hard to keep my documentary from being seen, Joe? Shouldn’t she be promoting it instead of trying to get it yanked from sites?
As for YouTube, I respond to comments that ask questions, or that make claims that need to be corrected or otherwise addressed (like the hateful anti-semitic comments left by Lubben supporters — or do you support those commenters, too?). I know this is something you wouldn’t know fuck-all about (and not simply because you don’t actually contribute to the world by CREATING anything), but people of principle actually defend their positions, answer questions, and address their critics — as I do here and elsewhere. You, on the other hand, simply bully and carp and groan and grumble and misstate and distort and repeat your mindless pablum ENDLESSLY because you HAVE NOTHING positive to contribute — in any forum or context. You’re just a miserable, useless, hateful wretch.
And, boy, I guess you must be feeling pretty downhearted about how things are going for all you adult-industry hating clowns if the best you can do is count my comments on a thread that deals specifically with the subject of a project on which I’m working.
It’s hilariously transparent how the stupid and disingenuous, incapable of defeating an argument, seek instead to distract people from it through feeble ploys and argumentum ad hominem. We’ve all heard this stuff a thousand times before from you, Joe. You’re a one-trick pony — and a douche nozzle.
Keep up the good work, Michael. Your comments seem to be the only ones worth reading here.
@Joeknow
Dude! You spelled “obvious” right. Good job.
Hey Michael,
Hows this for stupid.
That independent analysis…is that the one paid for by the FSC but is not yet written in Stone, if you know what I mean. LOL I’ve KNOWN all along. What a douche you are. Another hint, a rose by any other name is still a rose, do you get that one Michael?
Shall I break the news about your ‘independent’ anylysis, who paid for it and who did it, and how it was done or would you like the honors? LOL
No, Joe, I’d love for YOU to do the honors, if you know so much. And why don’t you explain your stone and rose references as well, while you’re at it, because I truthfully have no idea what you’re getting at.
So, when you write “I’ve KNOWN all along,” what you really mean to state is “I’ve been lying all along about NOT knowing about it, never having heard about it, and that no one I’ve asked has ever heard of it — ‘it’ being an analysis of medical data in an important and contentious ongoing public health debate.”
In other words, either you’re lying about ALWAYS having known, or you HAVE always known and lied about that. Either way you’re admitting that no one should ever believe, heed or even consider anything you write. Good work, Joe!
I will commend you for one thing: You’ve finally admitted what we’ve always known.
Here’s where youre wrong again Michael. I used lawyer talk,just like you. I have said all along there is no “INDEPENDENT” analysisi being done. Now I wil let you sweat it out for a ‘reletively’ short period of time. First I will tell you it was ‘commisioned’ by the FSC. Yeah, theres an independennt soucre of funds to do an independent anaysis of AIM’s statistics. Kind of like having the Republican National Commitee do an independent analysis of the effectiveness of George Bushs’ presidency.
And when I drop the bomb,as to who actually performed this “independent” analysis I will without one shred of doubt have the last, and biggest laugh of all, but as you would say, all in due time, relatively speaking. And since AIM is shut down for good, or is that remodeling that started on the 11th still going on?(LOL) I dont see it being released ANY time soon, reletive to anything. LOL
But I do beleive you 100% that you have no idea what I am talking about. If you did you would NEVER have used the term ‘independent’ analysis, you would have said something like, an anlaysis being custom tailored to fit our agenda. LOL
And of course your NOT in bed with Shelley Lubben, I was just showing an exapmple of the ridculous way these boards can be used to make such baloney accusations with not one shred of evidence, except pure specualtion on someones part. Like Monica Foster on this site now claiming that darrahford is behind wikileaks. Or how someone can claim that an ‘independent’ analysis is being done, when it is so far from ‘independent’ that the term ‘incestuous’ should be used instead of independent.
only in porn
@joe – Once again, you are simply an idiot. Commissioning a report does not guarantee a result. DOING ONE’S OWN REPORT GUARANTEES A RESULT.
Remember when the US government commissioned a report on the harmful effects of pornography? A Republican administration with an anti-porn agenda “commissioned” it. However, when they received the report, it turned out it did not yield the conclusions they had wanted — i.e., that porn would be found to be provably harmful — and they had to decide to ignore the report in order to proceed with their anti-porn agenda.
Why not reveal all you say you “know” now, Joe? Or are you bluffing? Stall much?
Once again, Joe, he who LOL’s last LOL’s best — and I’ll be LOLing at you real soon.
And, still no answer on the relevance of the mysterious “rose” and “stone” . . . You disappoint me Joe, you’re not even a second-rate bullshitter.
Here’s what I mean by lawyer talk. I asked Michael if he ‘approached’ Shelley with his camera running at that chance encounter at the Rainbow.
He said NO, he did not approach her with camera running.
What he really did: He saw her in the Rainbow, and she went to a part of the restaurant away from the rest of her party. Michael took a position in the Rainbow in a spot that he knew she had to walk past go get backk to her party and ‘waited’ there with his camera running. Then, according to the lawyer speak, SHE approached him. And as it turns out, when the very first words between them were spoken Michaels small poket camera was indeed already running, but of course, HE did not “approach” her with camera running, SHE aprroached him. LOL thats lawyer speak.
In a recent post Michael takes me task when I quote him by using the words “you SAID if a previous post”, and Micheal, not being able to debate the substance of the post writes, “I didnt SAY anything, I WROTE it. Lawyer speak. Jus out of pure curiosity,with no alterior motive, what type of law did you paractice?
Now Michael accuses me of lying, when I only used the exact same tactic to answer him that he used to answer me, again, thats lawyer speak. Its ok when he does it, and lying when someone else does it. As Colonel Hannibal Smith of The A-Team would say, “I love it when a plan comes together.”
And to repeat again(imagine that, me repeating mself) I do NOT beleive Michael is ‘in bed’ with Shelley Lubben.
MIchael,
YOU bought up this independent analysis months ago, and now youre talking about me stalling?
LOL Why dont you tell us all you know Michael, which I guarantee is not much. Youve been talking about it for months now.
Are you saying that YOU are second rate bullshitter? LOL
ANd are you being secretly lawyer like in your above post when you “WRITE” about that government report,,,”it turned out it did not yeild the conclusion they wanted,,,and they decided to ignore the report.” Kind of like what the now defunct AIM is doing?
@Joe – No one cares what an idiot’s definition of “lawyer speak” is. AND your characterization of the event in question is wholly inaccurate. We’ve been through all this, before. And who cares?
How about answering one fucking question you putz?
Why not reveal all you say you “know” now, Joe? Or are you bluffing? Stall much?
And, STILL no answer on the relevance of the mysterious “rose” and “stone” . . . You disappoint me Joe, you’re not even a second-rate bullshitter.
How about responding to the substance of what I wrote, you idiot?
Doesn’t it bother you that everyone here with half a brain thinks you’re an absolute moron and a liar?
@Joe – No, moron, a defunct organization cannot ignore a report. Ignoring something constitutes a conscious act. That which is defunct no longer exists, and is thus in no position to consciously do anything.
How about answering one fucking question you putz?
Why not reveal all you say you “know” now, Joe? Or are you bluffing? Stall much?
And, STILL no answer on the relevance of the mysterious “rose” and “stone” . . . You disappoint me Joe, you’re not even a second-rate bullshitter.
How about responding to the substance of what I wrote, you idiot?