ChristianXXX writes an excellent report on the Cal/Osha Meeting–
I was there as well. There were maybe 100 people there in total. Most were AHF lawyers, healthcare professionals or doctors, and various media outlets.
The FSC were there to represent us – Diane Duke, Kevin Bland, Jeffery Douglas, and Dr. Arnott
The adult industry was pretty well represented. Derek Hay, Mark Spiegler, and Chris Fox were there. Joy King from Wicked and Jennifer Larsen from Hustler were there. Porno Dan, Eric John and Vicky Chase, Angela Aspen, Brooke Haven, Dave Cummings, myself, Nina Hartley, Jeremy Steel, and Joanna Angel were also there.
Anita Cannibal was there and even more insane than usual. High comedy especially because they kept letting her speak. Good times.
Shelley Lubben was there with her husband and 3 girls as well. They were very well behaved and made a good showing with some valid points. One of the girls, a petite blonde girl, attempted to energize the proceedings with a little rape accusations thrown around, but she was so over the top, it had little effect. When she claimed to be in the business for 10 years and no one in the room knew who the fuck she even was, you lose a little credibility (I gathered some information and found out her stage name was Neesa).
The AHF was there in force. They were well organized and seemed to know what they were aiming for and what they wanted. I was impressed. Of course when the AHF’s doctor asked about enforcement towards the end of the proceedings……she got a blank look from the CAL OSHA board. high comedy.
I believe they said in the beginning that this was the 2nd step in a 10 step process to making an adjustment to the existing rules of CAL OSHA. They set up a second meeting in October in San Francisco, presumably to tackle the gay porn industry up there.
There were 2 moments of levity….once when Anita Cannibal talked about how she personally didn’t mind fecal matter on her arms and on her body. And second when Marci Greer started blathering on again about the rapists, and Angela Aspen yelled at her “DID YOU CASH THAT CHECK????” classic stuff for sure.
Oh and Desi Foxx was there in the corner. She attempted to make a corollary between the Nevada brothels and the adult film industry exactly 10 seconds AFTER the head of CAL OSHA told everyone that prostitution and adult industry were 2 separate topics. Nice work
Then she tried to bring Joy King and Wicked into her argument, and Joy King promptly told her to mind her own business and not to include Wicked Pictures in her nonsense. Joy King is a very intelligent, well spoken woman, and the doctor she brought with her was good as well.
I think the end result of the meeting was for the AHF to lay the groundwork for figuring out a way to remove AIM from being in business somehow. They seemed to keep making that a point throughout the proceedings. This seems strange to me, because if they remove AIM before they are able to push their condom agenda through…..then the adult industry is back to 1998 levels of testing. How does that help us?
I give the AHF a lot of credit. They are doing what up until now Shelley Lubben has failed to do. They definitely have a right wing agenda, but they do a great job of appearing to be moderate. The 2nd in command at AHF kept saying things like “we dont want to destroy the adult industry” “we are sensitive to your concerns” “we see some validity to your arguments” – they are very smooth in that sense.
Well…that’s a good report…way better than those big talker small doer that claims all this was bullshit and didn’t even show up.
Hey, I got quoted in the L.A. Times!
http://www.latimes.com/news/custom/scimedemail/la-me-porn-condoms-20100630,0,4035754.story
They quoted me and Nina Hartley. I’m surprised they didn’t quote Bill Margold, since he’s the self-ordained “foremost authority on porn”. He’s the only one who went to the podium to make a short speech about our privates being public and that we should not complain about invasion of privacy or something. He also contemptuously bellowed out at the end of his fine speech that if anyone dare have the guts to ask him any questions, he’ll answer them.
Bill also told me I’m scum for posting on lukeisback, which he said is the worst piece of trash regarding porn gossip on the internet. I’m surprised he feels that way, especially with sites like xxxporntalk. But any arrogant and deranged insult from Bill Margold I take as a compliment.
Marci Greer, aka Neesa, is an actual performer who’s done a few DVD titles and, I think, more web porn:
http://www.iafd.com/person.rme/perfid=Neesa/gender=f
She’s somebody who’s been on the periphery of the industry for a few years, and I’m not surprised nobody recognized her.
She was in one of Max Hardcore’s videos and claims to have been outright raped during the production of the video. Given Max’s general rep, I find her version of it credible. She’s been pretty active on YouTube for a few months now and has a lengthy series of videos where she talks about her claims of rape by MH:
http://www.youtube.com/user/CreamCheeseIsTasty#p/u/44/c8gY6W8g4Ks
Her beef with Max Hardcore is an odd one, and I think one based on not understanding what AIM’s role is supposed to be. Basically, she accuses Sharon Mitchell and AIM of knowingly letting her go to a dangerous shoot. She also says that AIM should not have Max Hardcore as a “client”, apparently not realizing that AIM’s job is to test everybody in the LA industry, period.
She’s been in contact with Shelley Lubben before, but, like Anita Cannibal, never got religion and hence is not one of “Shelley’s girls”.
Jeremiah,you had a nice report too…any pictures with that ?
Thanks Leslie. The only picture I got was of the gov’t Cal Trans sign on the building which says Arnold Schwarzenegger Governor. It’s still a mind-fuck everytime I read that.
I told Joanna Angel that I thought of yelling “Keep your hands off my cock!” during the debate but that it didn’t seem proper behavior for a civilized porn actor/model/star.
Neesa has done 9 scenes in 8 years and you are surprised no one recognized her? i did 9 scenes last week.
And she did the scene with Max in 2003 and it so traumatized her…..that she did 7 more scenes after that. Okay, if you say so.
And that little girl in that meeting did a scene this year for Bang Bros? Wow, thats shocking to me.
C3X, I’ll give you some kudos here, very well written piece. Evidence you did get a good education, lesser known state schools in any state dont get a lot of credit but often their students get a lot better education than large state monoliths. Who paid for Desi’s plane ticket? Odd think about Neesa was that years after she worked with Max she did more scenes. Milf Lessons 7?, That had to be at least 2007. AIM isnt well run but running it out of business is careless, criminal and stupid. Its the only safety net.
holy shit! Neesa has a blog! And its insane and awesome all rolled into one! – http://www.neesaxxx.com/blog – good lord she is insane.
“Neesa has done 9 scenes in 8 years and you are surprised no one recognized her?”
Key word: *not* surprised
“Her beef with Max Hardcore is an odd one”
Also meant to say “her beef with Sharon Mitchell is an odd one”. I know why she’s pissed at Max Hardcore. (I really need to proof before I hit “submit”.)
Hey Everybody!! Happy 4th of july and just wanted to say “be safe” and careful!! Watchout for the”man” out there, If u drink/do dope/ and drive…And remeber when those fireworks are going off over head that are freedoms in this country are at stake and we might not all be around here in this industry next year. And think about those who are in Prison and are about to go to Prison for a long time and for noting but Goverment Bullshit. Again to all Happy 4th july!! and I hear THE colonel and Jeremy or having big time BBq’s at there houses?? LOL and FREE buds and Beers. Just Kidding…have a good one you all……
So where is the bar be q , JEREMY and COLONEL?? come’on?? tell us , we’ll BYOB…a few cases!!!
Christian,
Do you not know your right from you left.
The AHF “definately has a right wing agenda”
That is comedy gold. The AHF agenda is the ‘gay’ agenda. Notice theyre not going after the gay companies,who say they use condoms, but have HIV flowing freely thoughout their industry. If they wanted, the could ignore the hetero industry and just get condoms mandated for the eintire industry by attacking the gay porn companiues. OSHA is not going to differentiate betwen gay and straight porn.
AHF is as far to the LEFT as one could possibly ever get.
Right wingers want to kill porn using the obscenity statutes……Left wingers want to control everything else you do in your life, and protect you becuase you dont know any better(or so they say)
All of you here need to learn your right from your left. This is a LEFT WING attack on the industry.
IT was the left wingers who created movie ratings, and remember the PMRC(very left wing)
Regarding how free speech fits into all of this,,,and here I vehemently disagre with the AHF….They say that condoms in porn will infuence viewers to act accordingly……I do not agree that this should be of any consideration to the decision makers. To demand that this form of speech carry a message that maybe the producer does not want to express, is a violation of the producers rights. You cant force anybody to express a particular message through their ‘art’.
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Happy 4th of July to you too, Rick. God bless America and our Masonic Founding Fathers.
Novus ordo seclorum.
Happy 4th, don’t blow any arms off, like that guy in NY. Nice view up here on the mtn!
Here is some observation for conspiracy buffs: America, led by a group of Freemasons, declared independence on July 4th, 1776. Benjamin Franklin, famous Freemason and one of America’s Founding Fathers was very active in 1776, making trips all around Europe, contacting fellow Freemasons and organizing the revolution. One of the groups Franklin had contact with was a group in Bavaria, Germany which was founded in May 1st, 1776, two months prior to America’s independence. The founder of this group was one of Franklin’s colleagues, a university professor and high degree Freemason named Adam Weishaupt. The name of the group was Illuminati. Conspiracy or coincidence? You decide.
Happy $th of July fellow perverts and conspiracy buffs!