Will Ryder Says:
The main reason that there is a lack of enthusiasm to attend industry events and specifically porn parties is because the adult movie industry is dying. That combined with the fact that a bunch of so called promoters came out of the woodwork to host shitty parties over the past few years totally watered down the landscape where most of the events sucked and nobody wanted to go out anymore.
There was a recent time however that my other company All Media Play threw some of the biggest porn industry bashes ever seen like the time we rented that converted aircraft hanger in Burbank and packed in 1000 people and offered free drinks all night long. We promoted movies like Britney Rears, Dark Angels and Not the Bradys XXX through our parties and had a lot of fun doing it. We used to also team up with Bo Kenney and SexZ Pictures quite a bit and host some truly crazy bashes to promote movies like Corruption and Upload but with the rise of free porn and the diminished return on investment for most in the porn business those fun days are gone.
A few years ago, magazines actually covered the events and published stories and photos which helped set a product apart from the masses and sell units but even many of the magazines are going out of business now or merging. Promotion was the main reason to throw an event (BTW- what were some of the biggest porn movies of those past years? Answer: Britney Rears, Not the Bradys XXX, Corruption and Upload) but somewhere along the way it all got over-saturated with promo parties getting watered down and thrown into the discount bin. It’s sad too because I used to have a lot of fun at those big events and our movie sales results were great. The industry has totally changed in the past year or so and sadly enough it will be just about gone in 2 years if my crystal ball is correct.
I still venture out from time to time to various events like the XPeeps/AEBN Porno Dan bashes (because he is a maniac) and other events when I know some friends will be there. I also have to mention that the art of self-promotion by porn actresses is almost lost these days. I guess I really can’t blame them when there is not much work anymore to get for a new girl in the industry just coming in. She doesn’t really have the incentive to get out on the scene and network like she did a few short years ago when meeting the right person could result in five jobs. Old Hollywood used to be a much more exciting place too but times are a changing in the porn business and although many of you might put down some of the people on the red carpet at today’s events, I truly believe that to sell more units than your competitor you have to have a superior product and get people talking about it. Plus you never know who that person taking that photo is or will become. When I first started in this business as a publicist back in 2001, there was a small magazine and I had to convince some company owners to keep him on the DVD screener list even though that small publication only covered very little of what was ever sent. That editor/reporter really appreciated that I kept him on the list and a couple of years later he was named editor/publisher of AVN Magazine (has since departed) and his daughter went to work for me in my office. Moral of the story? You never know who that asshole is on the red carpet so treat him fairly. Lastly, as a marketer of my own X-Play product, I really appreciate all of the “small guys” that write blogs, post photos and keep our product in the limelight. Not everybody is Dan Davis of Genesis, Larry Flynt of Hustler Magazine or one of the other “big” publishers. That is why we are throwing a Halloween Bash in Hollywood that hopefully will be like a blast from the past and a return to the good old days when porn was fun. Keep Halloween night open because we are promoting Not Married with Children XXX, Not the Bradys XXX #3, Not Monday Night Football XXX and our upcoming feature comedy Flight Attendants at a bash that should be packed with chicks and something to remember.
Yeah yeah yeah, Will Ryder is the best thing to happen to porn in the last 10 years.
We get it already.
No one else can think of taking a show from pop culture, slapping a “NOT” on the front and a “XXX” on the end of it and shooting 5 scenes in same room.
Everyone in porn owes a debt to your creativity.
You and Porno Dan must be twins. Both of you look like and are both full of shit. So many girls worked on a regular basis because of the life changing parties both of you put on.
Maybe you can start shooting the XXX version of the radio shows from the 1920s’. As long as there is no picture and just sound it will be your best work ever.
Who is the whore next to Will? KLK?
Yes it’s Kagney Linn Karter. She’s in his new Married With Children parody.
Will who are yuo?a performer! Your cute and sexy!
No Will Ryder is not a performer. He directs and produces. But his twin brother Jeff Mullen is a performer. 😀
Right On BDD..How you doin?
Jeff Mullen = Smelly Monkey of XTP.
BigleeBail,
I’m doing well thank you. Just sick of hearing all that porn promo crap. Its all shit. The guys putting on parties and even mentioning the word promo and the losers with internet radio shows with zero listeners and the guys with blog/websites that no one reads all have one thing on common. They are losers that want to hang around porn girls. PERIOD. End of story. They are scammers.
Here is a list for your ass from biggest shit hole to smaller shit holes.
Gene Ross – The king of worthless. The biggest scammer is Gene Ross of course and his pathetic adultfyi website. This old fucking shitbag claims that adultfyi “was on your site” but yet he spent several years working for Extreme Associates which made a point to rip off every performer that came thru their doors. Only years after he stopped getting a free office and money from them did he care to mention that he personally saw the accountant run out the back door when people came looking to get paid for their scenes. This cunt is worthless. He just copies and pastes(aka steals) from other websites now.
Wankus – The first scammer to use “internet radio” as a way to scam girls into free scenes and to “promote” girls. First off, no one listens to internet radio talk shows. There is a reason there are no FM talk radio shows. The few people that do listen, listen on AM radio and only way commuting to/from work. You really think someone is going to get infront of a computer and listen to a loser talk? Name one performer that benefited from being on KSEX? Did any of the girls that did free scenes get a dime? If KSEX got ANY MONEY why didnt the performers get anything? Wankus was a fucking tool and its so good to have him gone. Hopefully he is working at some 7-11 promotiong hotdogs thinking about Tyler Faith taking alot of black cock.
Steve Nelson – This loser has been around for years yet never seems to have money to hire girls. The best he can do is charge girls to stay at his shit hole apt in Simi Valley. He will post ANYTHING a girl emails him on his website but does that do anything? No. Most porn girls press releases are laughable. They always claim to be the biggest this or the finest that and its all shit and everyone knows. Every fucking day he posts what is happening on Playboy Radio as if anyone gives a flying fuck. Listen Steven you have been at this too long to be such a loser. Its time to move on. Get a job, goto school or do something productive. In 20 years I will see this sleeping on a sidewalk in SkidRow with his bald head getting sunburnt.
If you want me to keep going let me know . .I dont want to bore you guys.
Please continue…I’m laughing my ass off over here in the cheap seats!
But seriously, doesn’t porn sort of promote itself? You put a bunch of hot, crazy chicks in a movie taking random cock on video — if you’re half-way smart, you put the hottest chick on the box cover and presto…count money.
Beyond a few clips on local LA news about EroticaLA, I can’t say I ever saw ANY legit media outlet report on ANY ‘porn party/promotion’. Even the AVNs are ignored year in and year out…wait…I think I saw local news report on Digital Playground’s PIRATES flick (but it was more in the, “…hahaha, look at the silly porn people making a big budget movie that capitalizes on that recent Hollywood ‘pirate’ movie…”).
While I agree internet radio is a waste of bandwidth, FM Talk radio was quite popular; Howard Stern, Imus, and most recently Anthony & Opie were mainstays on FM. Likewise, back in 1986/87 Stern had the ‘big idea’ to syndicate his show across the nation (his rivals followed his lead) to become even bigger. Around 1995, the LA Howard affiliate 97.1 went to an all talk format (again, demonstrating how popular talk radio could be on FM).
When Howard left, his old bosses tried to keep the format going by hiring all sorts of vaguely interesting hosts in different markets (David Lee Roth, Adam Carolla, et cetera). Yet within a few years, it was basically dead and forced to switch to ‘dance music’ when the economy tanked and ad revenue dried up to support it. Likewise, AM talk radio gets anywhere from tens of thousands (local programing) to millions of listeners (the big dogs who syndicate nationally such as Limbaugh, Dr. Laura and Hannity). Similarly, the popular shows are able to expand their reach via podcasts and listening live via the internet.
Regardless, the point was well made that assclowns like Wankus use ‘internet radio’ to get their tiny dick wet from desperate/naive porn chicks. Plus, no one besides truckers are listening to satellite’s Playboy Radio (or Maxim Radio for that matter) — so again, the term ‘porno promotion’ is an oxymoron.
Good response. Let me counter with that fact that old timers listening to Limbaugh, Hannity and Dr. Laura arent your your best demographic unless you are seeling depends undergarments, goldbond medicated power or subscriptions to AARP. Seriously any one listening to AM radio is over 70 and ready to keel over any day now.
I doubt anyone over 70 is in the market to purchase the latest movie that Will Ryder excretes.
Good point — although, Ryder might be able to get the 70 year olds to give up a few dollars if he did Not The Golden Girls XXX staring Leslie Bovee, Aunt Peg (aka Juliet Anderson), Constance Money, and Desireé Cousteau.
BDD says:
‘If you want me to keep going let me know.’
Do you even have to ask, man? You know lots of guys love you over here. Of course you had your differnces with some people on this board and even with Cindi at some point. But I don’t see why can’t we leave all that behind and move forward instead of dwelling in the past. I for one enjoy reading your comments and statements and hope you stick around.
I just checked the human turd aka Gene Ross and you will love this nugget of a headline:
“Year’s Most Anticipated Title, ‘Letterman’s Nailin’ Palin,’ Finally Unleashed”
Let me start with . .HORSE SHIT. Does old ass Gene Ross even know what anticipated means? Just jam his old in a nursing home. No one has anticipated this worthless fucking movie. NO FUCKING ONE!! No one has heard of it till now and no one cares. We’ve seen everyone into fuck in 20,000 other movies.
Just name a single fucking reason anyone on earth would anticipate this movie.
Thought so.
Gene Ross, do everyone a favor and shoot yourself right now.
Come on, it could be anticipated…if it was the real talkshow host nailing either the real former Alaska governor, or Lisa Ann…
…yet it’s clearly not, so Mr. Ross might want to run down and get that deal on a casket and burial plot.
This is a very funny thread and I’m sorry to disapoint ‘Sure Bill’ but I am not Smelly Monkey of XTP. Not really sure where that comes from as I don’t go on XTP. I had to laugh when I read the comments especially from Big Dick Daddy as it is obvious to me that he has never watched any of our Not…XXX movies. I hope everyone has a great weekend.
Will you lazy fucking hack, I wouldnt watch your shit if I was paid to watch it. Why would I? Your shit is not half as funny, entertaining or sexy as you think it is.
The only thing funny about you is your face. You look like a nerdy Barny Rubble with your protruding chin.
UCLA and USC graduate 15 to 20 students from their film programs each fucking year and none would stoop to your lows. I mean seriously are you incapable of any original ideas?
Devils film is starting to copy the whole retro name crap. Next it will be companies like West Coast Productions, then Rodney Moore and Dave Cummings and then next thing you know guys like Joe Cool and Regen Senter are shooting NOT THREES COMPANY XXX in their shit stained apartments.
I understand you are able to shoot the entire movie for under $8k which is why Hustler users you. Just wait until one of these out-of-work film school graduates talk to Larry Flynt and tells him he can shoot it for $7k and you will be out in the street on your ass. You bring nothing but lame ideas and cheap budgets to the table. You are worthless.
Hmmmm, well I sure hope that “Smelly Monkey” is not “Will Ryder” or his alter ego, simply for the fact that if this IS the case, it would shed a completely different light and perspective on my experience with his studio.
Considering the “Smelly Monkey” comments on XPT it would however explain why “Not the Cosbys XXX” isn’t included at all in the press release or why the Halloween party isn’t promoting that particular XXX flick.
I for one am looking forward to Flight Attendants. From what I have seen it has great stars and good buzz on the net. Good luck with the Halloween gala… may it be the first of many.
You really expect them to be here in October and have the money to throw a party like this?? No, they just want to get some girls in since their pussies are drying up in Porn Valley.
Parents know the truth and know these companies are after their daughters.
And no big surprise about Will Ryder aka Jeff Mullen also being aka SmellyMonkey. We’ve known it for some time. We know who many of them are and that list grows everyday as they’re exposed!!
Love your wit BDD 😉
xoxox,
Desi Foxx
VickyVette is another one of these retards that sends out tons and tones of spam about having the greatest webcam shows and the most this and the hottest that.
Here is a newsflash Vicky . . . using colorful adjectives makes your spam less interesting.
And oh, that bullshit about having a buzz? Have you been sucking too much cock or what? People that “talk” about porn movies on message boards are the last people that PURCHASE porn. That buzz is them trading links to filesharing sites and passwords to members only areas so they can avoid spending any type of money.
Thanks for the heads up BigDick. I will keep your highly educated words of wise wisdom under advisement. Have a splendid weekend and by the way I am doing an awesomely fabulous spectacular camshow at my site http://www.vickyathome.com @5pm edt.
Love you BigDick! Kisses in all the naughty places.
Hmmmm Big Dick hasn’t taken his happy pills yet today. Try the blue ones for that issue.
Desi:”Parents know the truth and know these companies are after their daughters.”
You knew the truth and pimped your daughter out for the world to see. Funny how she never chimes in about the jizz biz. You are human fucking garbage…
BDD, go on please, get to Monstar, Powder, Johnny Thrust and all the other leeches. Desi, no parenting tips please and whta happened to all the money?
Desi, your image naked, looking approvingly while your daughter, also naked, sucks on some mope`s cock will be always embedded in my mind. Please disappear.
I was told that Jeff Mullen was the very first Smelley Monkey at XPT years ago. The one that got AVN to run that Marc Wallice had died. Kudos to anyone that gets AVN to run forum gossip! 😀 But legal trouble loomed because of everything SM was saying at XPT. So Jeff Steward got worried and had to let Jeff Mullen go.
Current Smelley Monkey is an XPT regular. I know who it is as I witnessed it with my own eyes. I can’t say who it is because or else they’ll fuck up the current accounts I have like all my other accounts. I don’t think he’s in the industry at all. He’s no more in the industry than I am.
I first thought SM was Jeff Steward. But someone told me SM is more articulate than Steward. 😀
I get press releases from Monstar’s company and many of the girls are first noticed and talked about because of these press releases. He also is involved in many of the parties and in planning them. He represents some of the girls and everyone in the entertainment industry needs representation.
Monstar is also the one that managed to get Angelina Armani to be legally allowed by Digital Playground to remain using her name when every other Digital Playground woman before her wasn’t unless they paid lawyers to like Tera Patrick, who did win inn court to keep her name.
Darrah,
No one in porn needs representation. No one in porn needs Monstar, LA Direct, Pam Peaks, Regen Senter or Jim South. All these tools are part of porn larger problem.
Mainstram actors need agents and legal teams because we are talking about serious money. We are talking about millions of dollars and “points” on the back end.
Is an agent needed for a girl to book a $200 bj scene? No. Its pimping and everyone knows it. Half the people shooting are shooting just to get their jollies off and not because its a commercially viable product.
The porn world lives in make believe. So Monstar has a company huh? Where are his offices located?
Oh, he doesnt have an office, he just works out of his apt? Great, how classy and professional.
He is involved in parties huh? Scroll up and read about how productive parties are for girls in this business. Oh that promo sure helps huh. Even better if they were able to get a scene booked for 8am the next morning.
I’m glad you get press releases from him but this crap about girls firt being noticed by him is stupid. No one reads anything he puts out. You obviously dont have the most basic grasp of how porn works. Let me remind you.
There are three ways to make money in porn.
1- Be talent:
Get hired to suck and fuck
2 – Sell Product to end consumers
People dont buy porn in stores so this means selling videos online and running members only websites
3 – Work as a hired hand
Directors, Editors, Grips, Graphic Artists
4 – Become a Leech or Suitcase Pimp
Whore out your wife/girlfriend, scam people(PR people, Porno Dan) or pimp(Derek, Ben Fisher, Regen Senter etc etc).
Do you have any questions Darrah?
Larry Horse Shit shut the fuck up. You know nothing. Your just a old head.
BigDickDaddy I disagree with you. The talent that is new to adult do much better with representation. An agent can get them a higher pay and better jobs. Plus most new talent have no idea where to go to get jobs, that is how they usually end up getting fucked over.
Porn parties are incredibly overrated and a waste of money in most cases. Just my opinion. The only people that seem to show up are porno insiders and wannabe porn ‘journalists’, though I hesitate to call them that.
If the idea is to get your movie promoted, why have every single fucking party in the Valley? You’re just preaching to the choir. What’s the net result?
Why not take your party out to the rest of the world that doesn’t exist inside the little porn bubble?
Just my 2 cents. Oh and Will Ryder makes good parodies, the problem is that now that every studio is doing it, its watering down the genre. But his titles are still doing tremendously well while nearly everyone else is sucking ass. I see his titles in almost every store I visit. So at least X-Play and their distributors are moving units, whether or not stores are able to move them…that’s another story altogether. (cue the Airplane joke Jeff)
We are still one of the lucky companies that move a significant amount of DVDs through stores and online stores. I will never criticize somebody on an online blog but that Big Dick Daddy guy must be slightly retarded because he sure comes off as a total idiot. I wonder what business he is in if any business at all.
Regarding the topic of if agents are needed? From the perspective of a producer the answer is yes. I prefer to get our actors from an agency because there is a little bit of a guarantee that they will show up.
I want to answer Darrah’s post with- contrary to what you have been told I have never been Smelly Monkey. I have never commented on Marc Wallace and have never spoken personally to Jeff Stewart other than one business conversation years ago that lasted about 30 seconds. I am not sure why some insist I am or was that Smelly Monkey poster on XTP as somebody has their facts mistaken but it was never me.
Now to conclude with Big Dick Daddy (Love that name) but I have news for you. The mainstream entertainment world also lives in the world of “make believe,” they just have more zeros in front of the decimal point than we do. I am sure this will incite BDD to blast me further on this blog which I really don’t mind but come on man, do better than talking about my movies (that you have never seen) or my physical looks or lack of. I do very well with the ladies thank you very much (always have) and lead a pretty fun lifestyle which I only wish you could taste for a few weeks because I guarantee you would not be so angry at the entire world or feel the need to be an expert on every possible subject. Come to our Halloween party BDD or come out with us one night and I will buy you a drink if you cannot afford one so that you can see how much fun life really is once you exit your box.
Re: The Sure Bill venom, I took a shot at the Trannyfucker on the NA forum, they are damn sensitive about C3X there, so the TF has his protectors. He also doesnt like my Germy Steal jokes, I dont think I’ve ever called Steele, Germy Steal, I could be wrong. Besides Steele seems like a decent guy and I have some sympathy for his time with Sophia. Someone else called me an asshat. Nice to see the Trannyfucker has an army of fanbois and fangirls.
Larry you just contradicted yourself, addressing me as Germy Steal twice. But thanks (and to those at NA). Maybe you can talk some sense into Darrah and Tara, but probably not.
Larry Horse Face. Your just a some dude who comments on this board. You are what they call a know it all know nothing. I willing to bet that you have very little to do with the adult industry besides putting it down. Are you in production, are you a director, are you a producer, are you some mope with a camera shooting shitty pov vids in your moms basement?
I know the identity of Larry. He’s Mr. Ed’s younger brother.
So Larry is Shy Loves older brother?
Listen, Darrah. My comment was meant as some kind of joke so don’t anal-eyes it.
Ahem… Btw, there are some good porno parodies. The only ones that I’m aware of that actually make the word “adult entertainment” meaningful are Cash Markman and Will Ryder. Their stuff is not just the word “adult” with the word “entertainment” meaninglessly but impressionistically added to it (which is as silly as calling porn performers “models”).
I’ve not seen every porn parody in the world so am no connoisseur, but we all have to thank Will Ryder of late for causing everyone else to jump on the parody bandwagon. Now, while it’s spinoff city on the sinking titanic, old and older titles with chessy porno blockbuster/nutbuster spinoff names from years ago are being re-sold to try to ride the wave in these low tide days.
A few flicks are actually entertaining (and not on a porno-standards level; the type that require a FF button within thumb’s reach) and do a good to great job of representing original releases (no pun intended), plus as a bonus you get more than you ever got from public television, so if it’s done well, it can be great, and more than on one level. If it’s really bad but at least seeks to imitate the original in some ways it can be good on a different level for being so bad…
It used to be that whenever a porn company wanted to exploit a popular mainstream movie they’d just rip off the original and change a word here to change it’s context… and then you’d watch the movie and say “What the fuck” as you’d realize there’s absolutely no attempt in any way to portray or resemble any of the original story or characters.
Essentially, it would be a fuck flick that would make you feel fucked if you were hoping for a representation of a mainstream thing you’d seen before.
I’m done blabbing. I will save more for elsewhere…
The internet reveals the secrets of what we really want to see, and it’s morphing two fantasies/realities…