Because the law won’t let us. When AIM named the HIV positive person and the quarentine list in 2004 they got sued because they were actually giving out medical information which you are not allowed to do. They paid a lot in that lawsuit.
There are a lot of names floating around and who did it with whom and at which studio. It’s almost impossible to confirm anything. The one way to tell there is a problem with someone, that they may be on the quarentine list, is that their name will be missing from the AIM database.
So by process of elimination, if we know someone’s real name we can look them up and if they are there, they are NOT involved ( so far) in the chain of partners.
BUT The chain of partners is only gotten by asking those who have been found so far, who they had sex with. If they are not honest, or if they don’t remember, or if they don’t know the names, the list of those quarentined will not be complete.
I have often asked people during interviews, "Who was that scene with?" and they have answered that they didn’t remember or they didn’t know the name of the person. So finding this chain of 1st & 2nd generation is not as easy as it seems.
This is how it works. Patient Zero has sex with people. These people become the 1st generation because they had direct contact with the infected individual. Those in the 1st generation ( who didn’t yet know there was a problem) go out and have sex or do sex scenes with more people who become 2nd generation. And this can go on until the HIV positive individual is notified and all the sex going on is shut down until everyone is cleared which can take from a couple weeks to a couple months for those in the direct chain.
To make matters worse, I can’t legally tell you anything that i know because any description of anyone ( you notice that AIM didn’t even say male or female this time?) can get me in trouble. And it was AVN, not AIM that told us their source said it was a male who worked in the gay and straight industry.
MikeSouth.com gave the name of patient zero and then two posts later said that it was not him. It is also scary with rumors running all over the place that you name someone and get it wrong.
If I tell you that someone ISN’T on the quarentine list, and further down the line we find out they are I can get sued for that also. SOOO unfortunately I can tell you nothing. I can’t even give you clues. It sux. I am sorry.
I believe that because of the danger in our industry that AIM SHOULD be allowed to release the names, and they should be exempt from that portion of the laws. That is why when you go for blood tests you sign a paper saying you give permission for them to give out your information. BUT I believe that paperwork was also ruled illegal. Which is why Darren James sued and won.
How about every male performer who has been doing gay, straight and tranny work who is HIV negative check in here and let us know it’s not them?
Why is what’s labeled as AIDS in Africa equally distributed amongst the sexes there while in the Western world it’s more often than not still a gay/bi/transgender guy’s disease? Aren’t these two things self-evidently epidemiologically different as day and night?
How the fuck do they label so many previously existing, old diseases under one “syndrome” as “AIDS”; kaposi sarcoma, diarrhea, cervical cancer, etc?
Is HIV = AIDS a scam?
Regardless, do some guys choose to do gay and tranny work because on average they get paid quite a bit less than women and “need” to? I guess they could be doing gay escorting, too since sugar-mommas are not as often an option.
Jeremy – you are very smart (I don’t totally get you but you were VERY right about taking note of 10-10-10 / XXX ) and you’re on a path that’s on point in some regards.
I don’t think HIV / AIDS is a scam, BUT the more I’m researching the more I’m noticing that it’s a “scientifically valid justification” for discrimination on quite a few levels.
Ummm how the fuck did Transsexual Porn get brought into this? They said straight and gay NOT transsexual! So why dont every male performer who has done straight work do the same? Fucking hypocrites, bigots and witch hunters….
FUCK OFF!
The rumor going around the internet is that its Brian Pumper that tested positive. Don’t know for sure but thats whats being said.
Forgive me, Wendy, but I’m not a bigot. I’m just going along with what the consensus is for a moment, that gays are more dangerous because they only have anal sex and the anal lining is only one layer thick whereas the vaginal lining is 3 layers thick. You may discriminate yourself from “gays” but you’re also taking it in the ass, I presume, or other transexuals are, at least, so cool your pits!
Personally I think the AIDS thing, as it’s called, has to do with, not a virus, but behavior. Doctors with advanced degrees have duly noted that there is a correlation betweem the open gay lifestyle explosion in the 80s which included lots of poppers, other drugs and multiple sex partners with what was then called GRID (gay related immune dificiency) and immune suppression. Now take into account Bob Gallo was convicted of scientific misconduct and now admits that HIV needs a ‘co-factor’ to cause AIDS, take into the account the millions of dollars that goes into the pockets of researchers and “non profit” organations (such as AHF, where the workers have an average salary of 100 grand), and go figure that we are only being told what that want us to here… “epidemic”… “we save lives”… “send us more money so we can save yours”, blah, blah, blah…
Thanks for the comment Monica.
OK Cindi allow me to make a correction saying the law wont let us is WRONG
what is correct is that aim never took the time or made the effort to implement the legal means to address the privacy rights issue…it CAN be done…its done every time you visit a doctor.
HIPAA
I feel if you don’t know for sure, people shouldn’t say its this or that, they really should keep there mouth shut, specially since they are starting to sound more and more like a perez hilton blog…
with that being said, HIPPA does not allow you to say who has what and what not. Patient doctor/confidentiality…
I’m a medical assistant and studying phlebotomy and man HIPAA is constantly drilled into your head.
If you sign a release when having a test at AIM then there would be no violation of releasing the name but in the medical field HIPAA is taken very seriously since medical personal can be fined for disclosing shit.
LOL HIPPA is the end all hear all..
I am a med tech for an HIV testing center, so yeah HIPPA is everything..
There do exist exemptions to the Privacy Act:
ex/
“Matters that are only or mostly to do with personal/household/family affairs”.
Is not the porn industry a “family” of sorts?… some say part mob, Margold says “Family of X”, but regardless, I’m just asking here… isn’t it in our interest and right to know?
Can I get a Hallalujah, Amen? We need disclosure!
Are we being made a mockery of? Haven’t WE any sovereingty or rights?
Recently, wasn’t there some gay porn guy that played Superman in one of those paraodys? I could have sworn reading that the dude that was the lead was some major gay porn star. Maybe he’s the one infected. I wonder if this will finally kill all this “cross-over” bullshit.
Funny how on one hanh AIM hands out passwords to EVERYBODY’S results,,,,and now is the torch beareer for privacy.
well when you get tested at AIM you sign a waiver allow the release of your test results. So is that waiver not valid? I just got tested today and signed agreed to it since I test in Florida at a “draw station” and have to go through all the legal shit on web pages rather than paper.
I don’t want to say something that is going to offend anyone, for a change I know, because generalizing an entire group of people isn’t fair but it’s flat out FUCKED UP that guys are doing gay and straight scenes. If someone can name me one infected person in the industry who didn’t get it from someone who did gay movies I’d love to know who that person is. Marc Wallice did gay escorting and did gay scenes which I just found out. He tested positive right after I got in the business so I didn’t know him or much about his situation.
This is a sad day and it’s fucking up people’s lives, with the loss of income and the thought in the back of your mind wondering if you’re on the list and what how your test will come back. I got a lot of shit for openly saying I won’t shoot with guys who do gay / tranny scenes but look at the track record of those who have been infected and I’m more than happy with that decision.
Enough said. have a great weekend!
xoxo
Mariah
Mariah,
If you are on the list then you would know it.
WHY WHY WHY does this industry think that the law does not apply to them.
Heres a little something to thinkk about too…..
Instead of talking about the performers who do stright and gay,,whynot talkabout PRODUCERS who hire these gay perfomres for straight movies…..
I have not seenone other mention,,except for mine of course,,,where a performer questions the PRODUCERS who are doing this….LOL
I don’t know about AIM since I’m not in the industry or know the privacy laws of Florida.
But generally if you have tests they are kept private. Your information is not to be released unless you give permission. Do they make you sign waiver in California at AIM? Did you have to sign waivers in Florida? Are the names to be released to only certain people or the general public.
As someone who is soon to be certified in phlebotomy I am honestly curious. 🙂
I can see a future grade B sexploitation/ horror flick cumming soon, starring Nekromistress as: “The Happy Phlebotomist”… or better yet, “Nurse Nekro”… They’ll be lining up down the Boulevard, and around the side street.
when you are signing a release of information, it says who can read it I.E AIM is JUST a release to put on the database, which doesn’t make it public record..
A doctor can have you sign a release to send info to a specialist but it can’t go any where else..
I am sure florida does the same.. HIPPA rules still apply
Mariah,
In 2004, Darren James got it from a straight sex scene in Brazil with Bianci Braggi. He is not nor has he ever been gay or bisexual.
That being said, you are 100% right about gay/tranny porn. And you are not a homophobe for being prudent.
I don’t know the circumstances of Darren james getting the disease, but in Brazil the tranny niche is HUGE and who knows what REALLY was shot there and if that girl had shot with trannies in the past?
All I know is that it makes everything far higher risk which is my biggest gripe about it along with escorting especially without condoms…but we’ve done that topic to death and no one will change their minds about that. Marc Wallice did gay escorting so who knows really?
I do blame the producers as much as anyone, but girls have a right to a “No List” but many don’t give a shit as long as they get their rate which is sad.
Privacy laws in FL are governed by federal HIPAA regulations. Even when working in addictions tx, I couldn’t give full disclosure to the drug court without expressed client consent (waivers).
I in 5/02 received notice from Tampa General Hosp. that AIDS tainted blood was given during the time that I received a transfusion. The letter stressed “privacy…confidentiality” but I was greeted at the testing site by the local ABC news affiliate.
While elated to test negative, my heart broke for the 23 yr. old who not only tested positive but was outed by the news crew and later participated in the TGH press conference.
TGH administration said a “standard press release” was issued per the tainted blood but names of those potentially exposed were confidential. However, doesn’t forwarding testing time and dates to the press negate HIPAA’s purpose?
I fully appreciate both sides of the coin: a need exists for initial privacy but ultimately, as in mass exposure from tainted blood or within the adult industry, one should come forward.
I respect those stepping forward; the veil of supposed shame and stigma lifts and the voice of experience often speaks louder than textbooks.
My transfusion followed my kid’s birth and the letter is in her baby book; talk about a sign of the times.
In all practicality, very few girls can afford a “no list”. Most don’t have the name you do. Its fuck or walk for most of them…
This whole event is really tragic. As a consumer people think I just don’t care but porn is not worth ruining your body.
I know, big laughs, but it really isn’t.
I’m just deeply disgusted. Enough petty talk with “no lists”. Adult performers NEED a union.
I had a no list, every girl should, didn’t spare me from the HIV outbreaks, close enough to the fire without getting burned. You can’t release test results publicly, that person may face retribution, further discrimination, and at the very least will be denied insurance for the rest of their lives. There’s a reason for the law. I was also at the first attempted union meeting at Shane’s house, and the creepy attorney put his hands on me in front of everybody and everybody saw me jump and he was no longer welcome. Porn will never have a union, scab labor is too easy to find and lets face it, most young performers aren’t the sharpest tacks in the box. Check your facebook pg Cin, I friended you under my real name.
I won’t name my source but Patient Zero is **************
Check it out. I’m in the L.A. Times!
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2010/10/porn-perfomers-on-edge-after-new-hiv-case.html
This is THE OTHER article/ the one you can get a hard copy of in todays LA Times (front page ‘L.A.T.Extra’ section) that I are and others are in.
http://www.latimes.com/health/la-me-porn-hiv-20101015,0,4848202.story
The previous one I sent, in actuality is the “extra”, available only on the internet. I just got off (the phone) with Ron, the writer, for clarification. I acknowledged that that’s the advantage of reading the LA Times off the internet; there’s a lot more verbiage that you couldn’t physically fit into a newspaper.
come on jeremy I had that name posted 3 days ago
everyone knows it now.
I hope it’s Ben ******* of Metro Content,LLC is the one who got infected HIV. That douchebag is scum of the Earth. He got a lot of gay photos with his male lovers on his social network sites.
KatKandy23,
Theres alot of idiots on this site,,,,many would say I am one of them,,,,,but you have now taken the cake,,,,,I dont know you, dont want to know you, but without a doubt byou are a fucking idiot. Exploiting this situation to wish HIV upon someone is beyond disgraceful.
No Ruby. Scab labor would not be easy to find if adult companies are forced to abide by regulations to keep performers safe. At this point Adult REALLY has to self regulate or the mandatory condom enforcement that is coming would become permanent.
I didn’t know you had it posted on your site, Mr. South, but thanks. No one mentioned it here and this is where looney birds like myself read all the shit that’s fit to print. And thanks, I see the name is spelled “Reid”, not “Reed”.
Just curious… What do you mean by “The institute for the advanced study of insensitivity and pornography”?
Hey Mariah Milano,
You dumb bitch, you have worked with the following guys who have done gay porn Seth Gamble (a.k.a. Troy Gabriel), Peter North (a.k.a. Matt Ramsey), Kurt Lockwood, Byron Long, to name a few.
¨Those who live in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones¨
How about people put you in their ¨No¨ lists.
Jerry says,,,,’Look at me,look at me’
PATHETIC ATTENTION WHORE ALERT
Yeah, Stupid Joe, I’m just an attention whore, yet the L.B. Church paid for me to talk, the LA Times and LA weekly recently called and interviewed me, and I just got an email from a student from UC Irvine regarding an interview for her school paper. That’s amazing if I have nothing of substance to say.
Yes origen they will never force regulation on million dollar companies because the state of California makes a lot of loot off porn, they and the comanies consider talent acceptable casualties. OSHA will not impose manditory condoms because the way scenes are shot(sloppy facials) I don’t think the risk would be diminished and then I can just hear the arguement now” why should we test when we have to wear condoms?” The only way to diminish your risk is to have a small group of people who only work with each other,and test frequently. And for someone who actually was at the first and only union meeting, if it had continued I guarantee we would have been frozen out by the large companies easily.
I don’t know Ruby. It seems Cal-OHSA is ready to start dishing out fines. Right now there is a de-facto moratorium on production.
There is a hearing next week in Oakland. We’ll see how it goes…
They shut down the last 4 times this happened too. They can afford fines.
Btw, I’m a little perturbed that while the LA Times online news article referred to me as a “porn star”, the hard copy newspaper LA Times article only referred to me as a “porn actor”! WTF?
ha 😀 ha 🙂 ha 😛
It could’ve been porn legend Jeremy Steele, it still may be. Cindi, Alana Evans had an interesting take on her blog, saw it via the NA Forum page. She’s nutty but not Sophia/Jade nutty.
Aw, thanks, Larry Horse. You’re too kind. More! More! Keep telling me so maybe I’ll believe it!
You came damn close to being referred as “Steal” again.
Whutchu talkin’ about, Larry?
Lets just say that you are lucky to have Lucky.