Desi & Ellie Foxx, Back in the Spotlight, suing AIM

Desi & Ellie Foxx have filed a lawsuit against AIM for lack of privacy concerning their medical records and deceptive practices.

Seems like they just can’t stay out of the headlines. Missing the spotlight I guess, and the money. "They" held a press conference at the offices of, surprise, surprise, AIDS Healthcare Foundation!

According to a story on Xbiz– “Once I was in the adult industry for a while, I realized there were several issues that weren’t being addressed,”" Desi" said.

"Desi" says that in order to work, she was tested several times at AIM. She was required to pay for those tests and had to sign release-of-information forms. She says AIM then made her test results available online for adult producers.

“With this lawsuit,” Desi says, “we hope to stop AIM from violating our and other patients’ legal rights.”

NL- (I will preface this by saying it is only a rumor but I have 1st hand emails to back it up) This is one of several cases where AIDS Healthcare Foundation finds "victims" and offers to "help" them if they back AHF’s causes.

66 thoughts on “Desi & Ellie Foxx, Back in the Spotlight, suing AIM

  1. These ladies are just messengers sent by the grocer to collect the bill.

    Big butt shitty lubein put them up to it.

    Stop. Your going to make it worse. You will drive the industry underground which will make it 100% more dangerous for the performers. You are taking away jobs and ruining the economy. People wont be able to feed their families.

    Vivid and other companies offer a million dollars for so called celebs to do a movie. I say they offer Desii or Elle 100k to do a scene with a man. That way we can tell if their heart is really into this crusade against porn. Come on Will Ryder, put the cash up. I sure you got 100k laying in your couch from all those parodies.

    If they take the offer, Id like Dirty Harry to work with them. He used to drive a city bus in Los Angeles. Next think you know hes doing scenes with memphis monroe

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  3. The Colonel says:

    Another pathetic, shamefull, useless dirty little trick orchestrated by Shelly Lubben and Co; and who would be better to perform the trick than an aging, desperate, disgraced scum of a mother who failed miserably at pimping her own daughter and making a living off of her body?

    Come on Shelly you broken hearted, jaded, psychopathic whore, it’s getting too obvious. Keep up with your games, and soon the only way for you to make a point against the adult industry would be by pouring gasoline on yourself and putting yourself on fire in front of Vivid office. Become a martyr like Joan of Arc; your god will love you for that.

  4. Julie Meadows says:

    No. This has nothing to do with Shelley Lubben, except to drag everyone but their organization through the dirt. LIB sides with Shelley Lubben and that is how I know this is not about Shelley. Desi must be with someone else. LIB is biased to the organization that helps to fund then, even if their ultimate goal is to shut them down. That would be The Pink Cross.

  5. Shelley and Desi haven’t had anything to do with each other in a very very long time. Desi still reads our blogs. I see stories on her blog the next day after it appears on ours. So she saw this meeting coming with Cal/Osha and I’m pretty sure she was the one who contacted AHF.

    I’ve been told many things about Desi throughout the time she and her daughter have been in porn. There was also what Monica Foster wrote about Desi one time showing how easily manipulated Ellie is by her mother. Ellie left porn and deleted her social networks. She was gone. Desi kept her blog and social networks and writing controversial things on her blog. Ellie was already out and why drag her back in this way? Now her real name is attached to her porn name. Why bring your daughter into this? Do this on your own if you want but don’t drag your daughter into it.

    I don’t know serious anyone will take Desi considering she performed in the same movies with Ellie and was also at the Bunny Ranch with her daughter. Months ago Desi was saying how “the evil men of porn” were after her and she had to go underground. Now she’s not only exposing her real identity but her daughter’s too.

  6. The Colonel says:

    This has everything to do with Shelly Lubben, Desi & Ellie Foxx have been on Lubben’s payroll for a long time. This is why Lubben pays these whores: To use them and manipulate them to serve her agenda and collect donations. The best part is how little of the money being collected is actually being paid to these whores. The rest goes straight to Lubben’s pocket who laughs all the way to the bank. Pornography is and always has been Shelly Lubben’s business, the only thing that has changed is the method of conducting the business and the audience: Degenerate masturbators out, crazy right wingers, religious nut jobs and lunatic white supremacists in. Period.

  7. Look at her blog and she doesn’t even link to Shelley or xxxChurch anymore. The only website I recognize is AHF’s website. I’ve also read her blog and she hasn’t mentioned Shelley in about a year.

  8. I just see this as Desi’s way of getting the mainstream attention she wants. She was always talking about going mainstream and her whole shtick was the mother/daughter thing. I remember reading Desi saying how Ellie got a job and she was happy. WHY DRAG HER INTO THIS NOW?

  9. Larry Horse says:

    I was trying to figure out how well the Foxxs did in porn. Movie wise it seems Elli got more work than mom, web wise it seems mom got more work than Elli. Of course we wont know about privates and such. Oddly, they stopped after going to the Bunny Ranch. Was there any demand for them there? They did a contest for Howard Stern around that time. All in all it seems from my somewhat amateur research that they hardly did enough scenes to make any real money and who knows what they did with that money. They were better off staying in Florida and doing stuff there as side money.

  10. rustynails says:

    You can’t work in Adult films without an Aim test. If you’re a performer, you owe it to other talent, the companies you work for and yourself, proof that you’re disease free. You’re records are only public to people within the industry. Test not current, you don’t work. While it doesn’t prevent disease, it’s essentially the only way to keep it from spreading.

  11. Rusty,

    Performers owe it to the companies to get tested? Now I’ve heard it all.

    Please explain, how does the talent owe it to the companies to get tested?

    Dont the companies owe it to the employees to pay for testing that they require(illegally I might add)

  12. jeremiahsteele says:

    I’m just curious, can someone clue me in? Doesn’t someone sue who has suffered damage? What damage is this?

    And btw anyone who says “I’m damaged” because of porn, maybe was already damaged before porn. Maybe.

    Meanwhile the world wants more porn, they just ain’t so willing to pay for it.

  13. Larry Horse says:

    The Foxx family was major league dysfunctional before porn. Desi must have had those implants long before her and Elli headed West. What were these two like to work with, anyone out there have anything to contribute?

  14. RickMadrid says:

    I heard that there are apparently more performers that are broke “ass” ,Out of money drug fiends looking for cash in on this LAWSUIT…too??? Tell you this industry is going under and we got people that are a liabilty to this BIZ, but they shoot them because they are “assocaites” with Good top grade COCAINE, and other stuff….Ohhh well….

  15. Jerry, great queston,,,What are the damages?”

    Heres another thought…..DOes AIM have any money even if they lose in court.

    But like it or not, the AHF guys are very smart. I doubt this is the LAST suit to be filed. Now we have to think,,,where is the money to go after???p.s. the old lawyer trich=k,,,never ask a question you dont already know the answer to.

  16. jeremiahsteele says:

    Hey, Joe. Where were you? It looks like I got the nuts and you don’t. I even made the L.A. Times.

    Yeah, the AHF guys are very smart. There’s too much money running through their “non-profit” foundation not to be. In fact all the money they make makes them a bunch of wise-guys, although never wise enough to ever examine other sides of the HIV=AIDS paradigm and subsequent drug “therapies”.

    They’re trying to inflate their self-importance in society with the hope and intention of adding condom legislation in porn to their resume.

    Anyone pointing fingers at AIM for their dubious “non profit” status, while supporting AHF is a major hypocrite.

  17. So Jerry,
    Did you stand up to the President of AHF and accuse him of murder to his face,lke you have done here?

    And just for laughs Jerry, why didnt you tell everyone what the AHF lawyer said about your laughable lame auto death statistic?

    Shall I quote the transcript here for you Jerry, or do w you want to do it yourself.

    And I love your LA Times quote,,?Making something safer doesnt make it safe” Perhaps the OSHA official INTERPETED that as a veteran perfromet testifying that the industry is not safe> LOL

    ANd nowhere in the transcript do I see you taking on the AHF about killing mothers and prescribing poison to HIV patients. Yeah, big balls Jerry. There you were, face to face, and you didnt say a SINGLE thing about this murder that you so passionaltly talk about here, in the safety of an internet chatboard.

    Face to face, and you didnt say shit!!! The transcripts say it al Jerry. Yeah, you realy took them Jerry, You told them the industry is not safe. And coming from a veteran perforer like you Im sure it carried alot owf weight.

  18. jeremiahsteele says:

    The meeting wasn’t about AHF, “No Balls Joe”, it was about the subject of mandetory condom legislation. We need not bite off more than we can chew. There was enough hysteria at times at the meeting, already. Going off on the tangeants you dream of me doing would serve no practical purpose, it would only help you support your belief that I’m just plum crazy.

    The AHF is yet one more AIDS Money machine which profits and gains power by promoting fear. AIDS Inc, has been throwing the “E” (epidemic) word around for years. If it was really religiously in pursuit of truth there would be a balanced portfolio on the whole AIDS controversy, but that will never happen.

    Go ahead and provide the transcript, I’d like to review it.

    “AIDS is a cruel deception that is maintained because so many people are making money from it. Take away this money and the entire system of mythology will collapse.” -Charles Thomas, PhD

    Some of the money raised to fight AIDS has been spent on big salaries. Focusing on the American Federation for AIDS Research (AMFAR), the FAIR Foundation says total compensation for its officers, directors, as well as other salaries, wages, pension and employee benefits, came to $5,442,557 in 2004. Its CEO had a total compensation package of $320,134.

    And of course, porn is not safe. Life is not safe, nor is driving, coal mining, etc….

  19. According to the transcript Jerry made his traffic fatality comparison,,,46000 deaths.

    The AHF lawyer then pointed out that since Jerrys old statistic, new safety measuers in automobiles, and safety laws have DROPPED the traffic fatalities ot the LOWEST rate since 1950, in addtion to the thousads of MORE people driving since then.

    Jerry, why didnt you mention this in your post?

    See Jerry, making something safer doesnt make it safe,,,,but it DOES MAKE IT SAFER
    Jerry,,,Two cars are headed straight for eachother each going 40 mph. One is a brand new VOLVO, airbags, seatblets and crumple zones. The other is a 1962 Volkswagen with no seatbelts. Which would you rather be driving….
    Sure, neither driver at this moment is safe, but the guy in the Volvo is certainly safer than the guy in the bug. Wouldnt you agree>

    A dvd of the meeting should be abvailable by the end of next week,,,,then you can all see for yourself Jerry standing up to the people he accuses of murder. LOL

  20. jeremiahsteele says:

    Well, first of all, Joe, I’d ask why the fuck are two cars driving into each other at 40MPH?

    Secondly, are you advocating OUTLAWING cars that aren’t safer?

    What about my stunt men comment? Does a stuntman not have the right to take greater risk if he so chooses?

    Should Evel Knievel have never been allowed to do all those crazy stunts?

    Inquiring stunt cocks wanna know!

  21. If you beleive all those things you said are ture, and you can prove it,,why didnt you inform the OSHA board of these ‘facts’ about the organization that filed these complaints. Shouldnt the OSHA board be aware of their REAL motives Jerry?

    ANd again,,,why didnt you mention the direct response to what yousaid about the traffic deaths?

  22. jeremiahsteele says:

    Joe, like I said, that’s an entirely other subject. That would require an entire meeting in and of itself, and many subcommittees.

    I just responded to your response. Whats the matter with you? My point is still valid.

    What’s your beef with AIM, anyway; Mega-big non-profit money vaccuums hate competition with little wannabe non profit orgs? Or is it because you got fired from AIM for stealing?

  23. I didn’t know this at first but Desi and Elli are suing because their medical records were made public. Desi says they were posted on a popular industry blog this February. I don’t remember any blog posting anyone’s medical records. After everyone I’ve contacted, many now seem to think she meant to say FORUM, not blog. This is the same forum that had up for months the real name of another female porn star, address, and a picture of the outside of her home. This happened this past year.

  24. jeremiahsteele says:

    Again, back to the subject of Mom and Daughter, can someone pretty please tell me what harm they’ve suffered because of AIMs disclosure? Could it possibly any worse than the concept of a mother and daughter doing porn together?

    Just wondering.

  25. Stunt men, while perfroming inherently dangerous acts, all have certain safety equpment at all times,,,and if they are injured, they have remedies aavailable to deal with those consequences.

    Evel K. was never an EMPLOYEE of any company.Did Evel ever jump his bike without a helmet? You know ful well Jerry, that stuntmen ALL have safety equipment. Does a stuntman jump off a building without an airbag to land on. Does a stuntdriver crash his car without a helmet or seatblet? And do stuntmen and those who employ them not have insurance to cover any injuries? And you also know full wellJerry, that there are specific laws mandating the use of the protective equipment that the stunt man must use, he does not have a chioce.

    And what do auto accidents have to do with unprotected sex in the porn WORKPLACE. That certainly had NOTHING to do with the proceedings but YOU bought it up anyway,,,,why not bring up your accusations of MURDER.

    And again, since you posted about your auto accident comment,,WHY have you still not commented on what the reply to your comment was? LOLOLOL

  26. jeremiahsteele Says:

    Again, back to the subject of Mom and Daughter, can someone pretty please tell me what harm they’ve suffered because of AIMs disclosure? Could it possibly any worse than the concept of a mother and daughter doing porn together?

    Just wondering.

    Read my above comment.

  27. Jerry, again you have misinterpeted what the lawsuit is about. Someone with a password posted her confidential medical information on a Forum or blog. It is a civil right violation. AIM has exercised NO CONTROL over the people that they have given this access to. Maybe someone should go on that database and post all of your test results. Name, bithday, and drivers license number(or the number from whichever leagal id you uses) included. WOuld you be ok with that Jerry?

  28. Jerry, Im sure youve seen the classic EVEL K. crash at Ceasers Palace. Do you think he would still be alive without his helmet(safety equipment)?

    Of course what Evel did is dangerous….How much more dangerous would it be without a helmet. But, according to Jerry logic, helmets are not 100% guarentee of safety so you shouldnt wear one. LOLOLOL

  29. Jerry, would you object to someone posting all of your results, on this forum, with all your identifying information.

    What would you think if someone posted EVERY performers results with all the personal identifying information? You do know that about 40 passwords are out there, in porn company hands, with all of your information.

  30. jeremiahsteele says:

    Hey you fuckin’ idiot. I’m not living on this internet. Whats the matter with you? You already pointed out his car death stat reply, and then I replied to it. Why don’t you get out doors once in a while? Being indoors hasn’t helped you enough…

  31. jeremiahsteele says:

    And Evel made his self and some people money, I’m sure. Is this all about employment? What is your purpose, are you sue happy, want some money, need to make people scared? What’s your business, Jack, I mean Joe?

    Now, go practice fellatio on a thick, curved green cucumber for your fantasy date.

  32. jeremiahsteele says:

    And how do you explain your head, Joe? Did you not wear a helmet once? And BTW, Are you getting PAID for all these hours of yours, off the clock?

    If not, You really ought to fight for your rights. I think you’re being violated, but maybe that’s your thing.

  33. jeremiahsteele says:

    Darrah, from what I read that you’re referring to, you said they’re doing it as a publicity stunt. If this is your answer, that doesn’t answer what is their claim of harm. If I’ve missed again regarding what you’re referring to, please don’t say “scroll up”, just tell me, thanks. No offense, I’ve got the habit sometimes of basically scrolling through and over any thing you’re saying.

    Btw, whatever monies they get off this publicity I think 15% agency fee should go to AIM.

  34. When I first heard about this lawsuit, I thought it was a publicity stunt of Desi’s. The next day I read a news article further talking about her lawsuit and she said her medical records were posted online on a popular industry blog back in February. I didn’t know about that until the day after news broke she was suing AIM.

  35. Jerry, two simple questions,

    Would you object to all of your AIM results, complete with name,birthdate, and id number(drivers license,passort, what ever you use at AIM), being posted on this, or any other porn blog?

    In your opinion, do you think most performers would be ok with printing all of their test results, with real names, on a public porn blog or forum?

    Julie, Monica, Larry, anybody else want to take a shot at this issue?

    And I need to make a correctin and apology……I was not given an official ‘transcript’ of the meeting, I was given a print out of a recording made by a mainstream reprter who was there. I have since been informed that what I recieved was not of the ENTIRE meeting…..I aplogize that I mislead the readers here by saying I had seen a ‘transcript’ of the hearing.

  36. jeremiahsteele says:

    Btw, Joe, my stunt cock comes with it’s own helmet, so leave us the fuck alone.

    Again, what specific damage has AIM caused? Don’t ask me what I would like or not like. Nobody cares.

  37. Doesnt this site have a policy against printing performers real names? What damage can be cuased by printing real names Jerry? Why does this site have a policy like this?

    Jerry, you must have been the best dodgeball player in your class as a kid.

    Simple question Jerry, would it be ok with you to print your results….after all, what damage would it cause,,,right Jerry?

    Your silence regarding the above SIMPLE questions is telling enough.

    Since you dont have the balls to answer the SIMPLE questions, maybe a few of the girls here will.
    Monica, Julie, do you want yor results printed on public forum? Jerry seems to indicate,he wont answer directly, that there would be no damage to you if someone printed your resutlts. Do you gals agree with Jerry?

  38. Larry Horse says:

    Ironic as I mentioned this to someone last night via real names being used. As far as I feel that unless you’ve put your name out there publically, a legal document that is accessable, like a guilty verdict, felony conviction etc. I would like to know where Desi’s real name and results were posted, she does publically acknowledge her first name. Demi Delia uses her real name on the site for her talent agency, Wikipedia posts many stars real names and some folks like Penny Flame have made their real names public, as we all know her as Jennie. Of course now many porn stars real names are accessible via facebook, though mainly through bogus pages. Back in 2004 remember, AIM had a master list of all performers in the first and second generation circles for possible HIV and their test results. Lets just say Desi is just screwed up and her law suit is completely bogus.

  39. jeremiahsteele says:

    You talk about balls which you don’t have, Joe. You’re also a liar. I went to OSHA and you never introduced yourself. No one has answered my question, so there seems to have been no damage, only possible hypothetical damage. Good point by Larry. If you really want to you can google search and find porn stars real names. When someone sues it for damages, right? How have they been damaged? And if mom brought her daughter into porn maybe she was damaged to begin with.

    There’s a reason AIM posted names. What should they have done? It’s for people within the industry, but if someone’s that fucking obsessed about them for whatever reason they can find out their personal information anyhow. Yawn.

    You still won’t identify yourself Joe or who you’re really with. You once spoke yourself, hypocritically, about wanting more publicity (just like it seems the mom and daughter want while crying foul).

  40. Larry,
    You are aware that AIM was sued for making those posts by darrn. AIM settled out of court. Of course they settled, becuase they knew they wuld lose.

    The state and federal laws regarding private medical information are very specific. Exp0ect a quick settlement in this case, along with a major change in AIM policy. Just my prediction.

    Guilty verdicts, felony convictions, tax returns(?) are all matters of public record. Medical records are not PUBLIC records.
    Larry, what about her lawsuit is bogus? AIM gives access to medical records and has NO control of any kind over the people they give this access too. I do agree that there may be prts of the lawsuit that wont hold water,,,,”the deceptive pratcices”,,,,,,,but the privacy violations are a 100% slam dunk.

    And yes, porn stars real names may be available in many places,,,facebook etc,,,,,,but their medical records are NOT.

    Larry, would you object to your medical records being posted on a public forum? Would you object if someone did the exact same thing to you that they did to Desi?

    Would the response to this be different if it was Sashas Grey’s medcial records, or Julie Meadows records, or Larry Horse’s medical records?
    Would Cindi allow private medcial information to be posted on this site? We all know theanswer to that is a flat out NO.

    Jerry, as someone who majored in debate, you know that sometimes you have to concede a point.

    HYPOTHETICAL

    If ShelleyLubben printed Julies, medcial records, what do you think Julie would do? I think she would sue, and I think everyone here would support her(myself included).

    If Bill Margold posted Jerry’s medical records what do you think Jerry would do?

  41. jeremiahsteele says:

    I’m not important enough to Bill Margold for him to post my medical records. He told me he looks forward to the day I blow my brains out. It’s funny, because before I FINALLY got fed with up ol’ Bill’s arrogance and disrespectful behavior he made the comment that I’d blow my brains out after that documentary of me comes out (which apparently isn’t).

    I told him he’s quite a humanitarian spouting out things such as that and that how the best Savannah ever did was die. What a compassionate soul. Then he said certain people are beyond help. Then I told him I agree and that he’s one of them.

    I told Bill he thinks he knows everything and then he said he does, or at least in terms of porn. But he doesn’t know me. Appearances can be deceiving. He can know a lot about the names and events in porno history, that doesn’t mean his opinions aren’t whacked out. He thinks “Casino” is a lousy movie. A person can have been part of the adult industry longer than the average fan has been alive and still be in need of a clue.

  42. Jerry,
    Here’s your answer.

    The DAMAGES are punitive, somtimes calle exemplary damages……..”To reform or deter the DEFENDANT(aim) and others(like the prick who posted the results)from engaging in conduct similar to that which formed the basis of the lawsuit.

    Punitve damages are often rewarded where “compensatory damages” are deemed an inadequate remedy. Punitive damages are awarded usually under tort alw, where the defendants condust was egregiuosly insedious(releasing private medical information easily falls within this limitation)

    In calfornia, punitive damages are determined by statute, not by case law. And the statutes in the state of calfornia on punitve damages, and releasing private medical records are CRYSTAL clear.

    And the person who posted these medical records, when,not if, he/she is identified is in for one hell of a lawsuit too, and criminal charges. AIM may also face criminal charges, and which ever doctors name is on those results that are being given to anyone who makes a monetary donation to AIM, is also going to face major problems with the medical ethics community.

  43. Jerry,
    Lets leave YOU out of it. Would you say its ok for someone to print ALL of AIM’s medical records publicly? If there is no damges, like you seem to indicate, then what would be wrong with that?

    Or is it just ok to print someone like Desis records becuase she isnt well liked in the inkdustry, and she pimped her daughter, and she worked as a hooker?

  44. jeremiahsteele says:

    So I guess what you’re saying is that there should’ve never been any labdat results that industry people can access because others can access anyone elses info, right? Labdat was a way of avoiding chaos in case performers who got booked forgot their test was expired.

    I suppose it should’ve been the way it was when you’d have to get the results yourself and bring them to the set. People used to bring copies of their tests, but then word was out that some people doctored their results or borrowed someone elses test to show to talent or directors.

    You still haven’t told us who you’re with Joe? Why is that? What do you have to hide?

  45. I am not with any organiztion Jerry.
    Nobody pays me for saying anything.

    And I NEVER said any such thing and you know it. There are legal ways to achieve the same thing that AIM does with their datatabase. The ststem that Talent Testing Servie has is 100% comletely legaland all of their results are readily verifiable. But AIM prefers to get ‘DONATIONS’ to verify results…SEE JERRY< FOLLOW THE MONEY…

    Jerry, why do you think AIM doesnt have a system like Talent testing Service,,,,,becuase then they couldnt charge(oops i mean accept donations), to verify results. FOLLOW THE MONEY.
    And then AIM exercises no control over the people who have the passwords.LOL

  46. Jerry,
    Did you like my asnwer to your ‘damages’ question? Or is that another one of your debate techinques,,,,just ignore the direct answers to your questions when they make you look foolish. Kind of like every other question you have dodged today.

    And Im not hiding anyh=thing. Like I told Julie on another thread,,,I do not want the attnetion to be on ME or who I AM,,,I want the attention to be focused on the subject matter we are debating. Everytime I make legit points that crush your arguments you resort to the same old..”Who’s paying you, what organizationa are you from, you cant type well,what are you hiding, BULLSHIT. As someone who claims to ;knwo how to debate” you know that if this were an actual ‘scored’ debate that you lose points every time you resort to ad hominem attacks.
    YOU do know what an ad hominem attack is dont you…….it is the technique of attacking the messanger instead of the message,,,,ad hominem attakcs are used by those who cannot refute what the other perfson says, so they attack the messanger personally.

    Would you object to posting everyones private medical records? Why wont you answer, what do you have to hide?

    Jerry, would it be ok with you to release every performers medical records?

  47. Larry Horse says:

    I never said anything about real names and medical records being made public, but do we know that Aim made Desi and Elli’s records public, or were the records stolen. Sounds like that because of HIPAA no one can know anyone’s test results other than the performer which means that the performer could “lie” about it. Dont LA County Health Officials have access to the results.

  48. Porn Star Babylon has insinuated that I, redgoat, might be behind the leaking of the information.
    Or a certain FORUM, she insists.
    Just because I have dogged her for some time now.
    I have in no way whatsoever even a miniscule idea of where their database is, nor would I risk a felony to be funny or to exact revenge.

    I never told the stories about Desi’s antics at the Bunny Ranch, and what really caused their “exodus” from it.
    Or, how after not getting any “dates” at the BR, she insisted that Elli and her HAD to work together.
    Or, her unpaid “rent”, to “Daddy ” Dennis.
    Or, making Elli move back in with her (room) at the Ranch, because she couldn’t pay her rent.( after finally letting Elli get a room on the other side of the Ranch to escape her mother)
    Or, making demands to HBO’s production of ” Cathouse”. Once again dangling Elli as her bargaining chip to “attempt” to garner more money or work in Nevada.
    Or, Howard Stern almost having to bring in “ringers” to actually do the “Date Desi and Daughter ” contest on his Sirius Radio Show. The original plan was for the winner to go to Vegas, and was xnayed because of Desi’s demands.Dennis was very unhappy that he had to come to NY and fly back out in 36 hours.It was around this time that everyone’s patience was wearing thin with Desi. Her bargaining chip, Elli, was getting ready to seperate herself from her mother ASAP.
    Instead, they had the “winner” go to a four-hour stay hotel in the city with the FOXX’s. They were quickly ushered in and out of the studio after they talked about the date.
    They were going to put one of the Whack Pack in the studio if they did not get enough takers for the contest.(it was between Fred The Elephant Boy or High Pitch Eric) It was the first time, I was told ,that they almost had to scrap any kind of contest that featured an “adult performer”.. ( notice that I did not say “porn star”)
    Or, dragging out Elli back across country because she was not making any money.
    And we all know the story of Desi the Activist. Her undercover foray into the adult biz to save and educate “unwitting and impressionable” girls.
    Now she’s XXXXX again.
    She burnt a lot of people and made a lot of accusations. I do not agree that releasing records is in any way right, but if you burn enough enough people, expect to have karma burn you right back.
    (And, to NL–I can provide quotes for this stuff)

  49. I didn’t mention anyone’s name Redgoat. Why are you putting yourself out there now? Oh just like how you once said you love the attention I give you. Is that why you’re now trying to take credit about who I was talking about? I also gave my reasons as to why I thought the person might be involved.

    Go away already and get a fucking life and leave me the fuck alone as I’ve already told you many times privately and publicly.

  50. Just because I have dogged her for some time now.

    You’ve done far worse than that and you know it. And all because of what I wrote about Jeff Steward and Tony Malice. I never did anything to you except when I retaliated because of what you’ve done. They hire you as a new moderator on XPT and you’re trying to protect your two new dads from big bad me. Though they never cared. You’ve also said you had the fucking gaul to ask Jeff and his girlfriend about me and you said they were both indifferent about me. Exactly! They don’t care. Why do you?? They must have thought you were the biggest loser imaginable to ask them about me. Why do you take what happens on a forum into the real world?? Jeff fought the government and came away from it in one piece. He certainly doesn’t give a shit about me or anything I have said about him when far worse has been said about him.

  51. “DF”–(on her adult industry blog)–I think I might know who is behind getting & releasing Desi’s records to whichever website later ran them. It would explain why a certain someone on a porn forum is very quiet about Desi when he was always all over anything new about her. It would explain why he’s rarely on that forum anymore. And it would explain why he’s just recently told me that he would leave me alone. Is the person who has threatened to sue me, tried getting others in the industry to sue me, and sent Jenna Jameson’s lawyer to my blog now the one about to be sued himself ????

    That’s not acusing me??
    “Just because I have dogged her for some time now.”
    Uh, if you knew anything about context, you would see that I was talking about DESI.
    (here is what you wrote)”It would explain why a certain someone on a porn forum is very quiet about Desi when he was always all over anything new about her.
    Yes, I had been all over her for awhile . CONTEXT.

    (DF)–Pot calling kettle—-“Why do you take what happens on a forum into the real world?? ”
    (DF)–Very poor short-term memory–” You’ve also said you had the fucking gaul to ask Jeff and his girlfriend about me and you said they were both indifferent about me. Exactly! They don’t care. Why do you?? They must have thought you were the biggest loser imaginable to ask them about me—–
    Did I post your IP Darrah??? The first,second or third time?? Nope.
    That’s it for me

  52. Test99 is the master account at XPT which only the higher ups at JM Productions have access to. I thought it was his wife. But after Jeff banned me after I contacted him on Myspace, that’s when I knew Jeff was the one who posted my personal data. Why would Jeff care now about anything I did a year ago? Who cried to him now?? After a whole fucking year and I was still allowed on XPT, why now?? Jeff never cared but you told me you promised WillieD you would “get rid” of me from XPT.

    You do nothing but complain about my blog and everything I write. But you have RSS feeds of everything I have on your blog that is solely based on me so to alert you when I update my blog, Twitter, and Myspace. You read my Twitter and then email me minutes later complaining about what I write. I left XPT months ago for two months thinking you would get bored and fucking leave me alone but it only got worse. You fucking followed me to Twitter, got imposter accounts, and even tweeted the heads of Twitter trying to get me banned. Even the head of WordPress told me he will not be returning any of your emails asking to re-instate your blogs on WordPress that were solely based on me. You hate everything I do but you do nothing but obsess over me. You wanted me gone from XPT but when I’m not there, you follow me elsewhere and you still won’t fucking leave me alone. WHY IS THAT REDGOAT??

    Why did you CALL Jenna Jameson’s lawyer sending him to my blog? I know it’s him because his IP is from his law firm. I had to write to WordPress to ask if anyone’s lawyer had contacted them that day and he said no. You’re a sick mother fucker asshole and everyone knows how unbalanced you are. Fuck off and die already!

  53. Aids Cartier says:

    1. The lawsuit concerning Diana and Elli is not about a forum or blog – it is about AIM giving copies of the AIM test results to producers/directors, specifically over the web. The testing database is open to directors and producers who have paid and joined as official industry members to receive that information. Yes – everyone is still supposed to bring a copy of the test with them to the shoot, and it is then photocopied. However, conscientious producers/directors want to check if everyone is on schedule for their tests, so they don’t get nasty, last minute surprises and have to book new talent at the last minute. It is a system that works for the most part, as long as everyone does what they are supposed to do and doesn’t try to cut corners or cheat.

    This lawsuit isn’t going to shut AIM down. If anything is going to shut AIM down, it will be lack of funds and their continuing bad press and public relations skills. The lawsuit will most likely just cost a lot of money for AIM, simply to have it thrown out of court as frivolous. That’s what AHF wants — nuisance suits to take everyone’s mind off the fact that they are also a testing clinic and that they could make a nicer profit by being THE testing clinic for adult.

    2. @ Darrah Are you supporting The Pink Cross Foundation now? way to go Darrah…

    @DarrahFord It is funny how people post things that make you wonder what the hell they were thinking. Oh well it just makes your job easier. 7:31 AM Jul 3rd via web
    http://twitter.com/scottsmith10

    3. @ Darrah you never answered why you are “blogging” about the industry. And what are the REAL reasons for your misandry? I’ve read some horrible things about bullying in highschool and that your father left your mother when you were a child. Did your stepfather not accept you as much as his own children?

    4. If you see or have any of the listed symptoms I recommend you to see a psychatrist:

    – depressions
    – depersonalization
    – isolation
    – anxiety
    – anger & hopelessness
    – disturbances in sleep
    – loss of interest in usually enjoyable activities;
    – problems concentrating
    – loneliness
    – self-loathing
    – apathy or indifference

    http://apps.who.int/classifications/apps/icd/icd10online/?gf30.htm+f31

  54. ” WHY IS THAT REDGOAT??”—Because you think that you can libel whomever you want and get away with it because nobody knows your true identity..
    You’ve even laughed about it on XPT.
    The updated feeds , etc., are just reminders to all that get them how unbalanced you are.
    This has nothing to do with Jeff or Tony or anyone at XPT anymore

    ” Even the head of WordPress told me he will not be returning any of your emails asking to re-instate your blogs on WordPress that were solely based on me”–We’ve only asked why they were taken down, and then took them to Blogspot, where they do not cater to whiny nutcases wanting censorship if the target is them.
    So you are crying to WordPress, huh? so, your “daddy ” over there made it all better for you??
    “I had to write to WordPress to ask if anyone’s lawyer had contacted them that day and he said no”
    They couldn’t comment on any matter that would do with court orders or requests from law enforcement anyway. Because those idiots would be/are a responsible party for abeiting your libel.

    Do you have the post explaining the wrongs done to you by me saved somewhere? Because it seems like the same whining commentary every time.
    The bottom line is this: Much like you, I can post what I want when I want to , about whomever I feel fit.
    I just check the facts or cite sources that helped me draw said conclusion.
    And don’t worry. There are proceedings going on that will determine what libelous actions have, and continue to, take place.
    After you sent me the note saying that you knew who I am, where I live, and what I do was published on Twitter, I decided that I was going to protect myself if you ever used said information against me.
    You supposedly have this “blog” with all of my “threats”? PUBLISH IT!!!!!!!
    “You’re a sick mother fucker asshole and everyone knows how unbalanced you are. Fuck off and die already”
    If you mean that by “everyone” knowing “this” about me is supposed to hurt my feelings, it doesn’t. I am not thhe one concerned with how many followers I have on Twitter, or the one reaching out to the thousands of faceless masses in cyberspace to make my life a little better.

  55. Just want to make it clear that myself or the women and men we are currently helpling are not involved in this AIM case. Anyone with intelligence could have figured it out when they didn’t see Pink Cross involved???

    Suing AIM is not something Pink Cross wants to be involved in. Desi and Elli are doing their own thing with AIDS Healthcare Foundation.

  56. The Colonel says:

    Shelly Lubben says:

    ‘Anyone with intelligence could have figured it out when they didn’t see Pink Cross involved?’

    Was that a statement or a question? And speaking of intelligence, one of the virtues you don’t have, among the other virtues, anybody with intelligence knows that you are a whore whose only agenda is to fill her pocket, stroke her ego and serve her narcissistic needs. This bogus law suit was filed one week ago, and since day one your involvement was clear: Desi & Eli Foxx are among *your girls*, on your payroll and do what you train them to do. So the question is what took you this long to come up with this pathetic response? It seems lately things have been heating up in Bakersfield, and you feel your plans have been exposed and you’re under pressure.

    You gonna need a bigger boat, shelly. That, and a real job instead of leeching off others. You and your tricks are getting old.

  57. Larry,
    The County HealthDept. only recieves reports of ‘Positive” stds results. They do not get any information of any kind if the reuslts are negatinve.

    AIDS CARTIER,,you are incorrect. The suit also has allegations that her results were published on an “industry” blog, seperate from the AIM database. But you will never hearh this from AVN or XBIZ.
    You can see this on the site ‘porninthevalley.com’

  58. Thank God that there are archives of ” Roxy’s” days in porn.
    It’s always nice to know that her skeletons are just as bad as Desi/Elli’s ……..
    Misery loves company. So do swindlers.

  59. Because you think that you can libel whomever you want and get away with it because nobody knows your true identity.

    What I say about other people is none of your business. Mind your own business and get that life you claim you have but we all know you don’t.

    The updated feeds , etc., are just reminders to all that get them how unbalanced you are.

    I blog about an industry while you obsess over one person (me).

    This has nothing to do with Jeff or Tony or anyone at XPT anymore

    This has everything to do with Jeff Steward and Tony Malice when you fucking cry to me threatening me to take down every post I ever wrote about Jeff and Tony. You fucking banned me from XPT months ago when you saw my year old Jeff & his lamborghini post. Someone else had to unban me while Tony took the fall because Tony takes the fall whenever anything goes wrong on XPT.

    We’ve only asked why they were taken down, and then took them to Blogspot, where they do not cater to whiny nutcases wanting censorship if the target is them.
    So you are crying to WordPress, huh? so, your “daddy ” over there made it all better for you??

    You’re the whiny nutcase who went crying to Jeff and Tony. I only first contacted WordPress to have you taken off their global tags. I’m not on their global tags because I’m an adult blog. So your blogs solely based on a porn blogger would also fall into the adult blog category. When he looked at ALL your blogs, he banned them because they broke TOS which I didn’t even know. Blogger caters to spammers and always has unlike WordPress.

    We? It’s nice to know you need help in running a blog because you’re too stupid to do anything on your own.

    Don’t cry about censorship when that’s what you want done to me.

    They couldn’t comment on any matter that would do with court orders or requests from law enforcement anyway. Because those idiots would be/are a responsible party for abeiting your libel.

    Who says they couldn’t comment? Now you’re speaking for WordPress? I asked him a question and he answered me. How does he know this? Because HE WORKS THERE.

    And don’t worry. There are proceedings going on that will determine what libelous actions have, and continue to, take place.

    And what proceedings are those? You’ve been threatening me for months. You email me all these threats but then weeks later email again how I’ve won and it’s over and you’ll leave me alone.

    I haven’t said anything libelous against you when it comes to everything you’ve done to me. It’s a proven fact, I have everything saved, and many even in the industry know about you and how unbalanced you are.

    When someone tells you to leave her alone and you do nothing but harass her for close to a year, isn’t that being unbalanced? You’re the one who has many times commented on LukeIsback and forums admitting what you’ve done to me. So you are the one who has made it known that’s it’s you when I usually don’t mention your name.

    I am not thhe one concerned with how many followers I have on Twitter, or the one reaching out to the thousands of faceless masses in cyberspace to make my life a little better.

    What is your constant problem with me being on social networks? You called me a loser the other day saying how I have over 10,000 tweets. Though how many IM messages do you have?? You do know Twitter is a form of IMing people?? You’ve probably far surpassed me in IM messages than my little 10,000 tweets. Just because you probably don’t know how to operate a Twitter or because you’re so anti-social, that’s not my fucking problem.

    You’ve also criticized me for posting comments on people’s Myspace & Xpeeps pages. But the question is “Why do you care and why are you looking at everything I write and do”?

    Thank God that there are archives of ” Roxy’s” days in porn.

    It’s always nice to know that her skeletons are just as bad as Desi/Elli’s ……..

    Misery loves company. So do swindlers.

    And what is your problem with Shelley now? Did she write something about someone you’re “friends” with the way what I wrote about Jeff and Tony? It’s you once again not having a life and trying to gain friends by joining whatever group will accept you in these attacks against your many targets.

  60. I log in and check emails and of course the unbalanced one emails me AGAIN with the title of the email >> HaHa. But I’m the crazy one? I tell him to leave me alone and he won’t. The same person who tells me he loves the attention I give him. The same one who posted on XPT months ago that it was boring there (after I left) because he had no one to argue with anymore.

  61. Aids Cartier says:

    [quote]I didn’t mention anyone’s name Redgoat. Why are you putting yourself out there now? Oh just like how you once said you love the attention I give you. Is that why you’re now trying to take credit about who I was talking about? I also gave my reasons as to why I thought the person might be involved.

    Go away already and get a fucking life and leave me the fuck alone as I’ve already told you many times privately and publicly.[/quote]

    twitter.com/darraford

    So here are my two options: 1) run the story and watch the blog go national; or 2) get sued and possibly get arrested. 4:03 AM Jul 2nd

    Oh, the blog that posted Desi’s medical records is probably not a blog but more likely a FORUM. 4:07 AM Jul 2nd

    1) The person who posted Desi’s medical records have now done what others have tried to do and couldn’t. 6:13 AM Jul 3rd

    2) You’ve destroyed AIM, will likely be shut down, and you’ve changed the future of the porn industry. 6:14 AM Jul 3rd

    3) AIM should be shut down for a better alternative. But to get to Desi, you’ve destroyed a company and likely an entire industry. 6:14 AM Jul 3rd

    4) I’ve written to AHF asking if the blog is actually a forum and if the forum is _____ . Might not get an answer but worth a shot. 6:16 AM Jul 3rd

    5) Everyone I’ve asked doesn’t remember anything about Desi being written. Instead of it being a blog, might actually be a certain forum. 6:17 AM Jul 3rd

    6) AHF has deep pockets. Do you after all the crimes you’ve just committed to get to Desi? Idiot. 6:27 AM Jul 3rd

    Darrah Ford

    – depressions
    – depersonalization
    – isolation
    – anxiety
    – anger & hopelessness
    – disturbances in sleep
    – loss of interest in usually enjoyable activities;
    – problems concentrating
    – loneliness
    – self-loathing
    – apathy or indifference

    http://apps.who.int/classifications/apps/icd/icd10online/?gf30.htm+f31

    [quote]And what is your problem with Shelley now? Did she write something about someone you’re “friends” with the way what I wrote about Jeff and Tony? It’s you once again not having a life and trying to gain friends by joining whatever group will accept you in these attacks against your many targets.[/quote]

    What he says about other people is none of your business. Mind your own business and get that life you claim you have but we all know you don’t.

  62. Another alt account. How boring.

    So here are my two options: 1) run the story and watch the blog go national; or 2) get sued and possibly get arrested. 4:03 AM Jul 2nd

    That wasn’t about Redgoat and you know that.

  63. No alt account of mine, “Darrah” “avalon”, “shrinky dinks”, “Darrahs ghost”, “Dr Percy Spencer”….

  64. Larry Horse says:

    Desi/Diana looked like some white trash dolled up hooker at that sham of a press conference. The glasses, hair style and earrings just scream low class, when she was cleaned up for porn scenes she looked decent or passable as a milf. Ah Florida, maybe when Desi goes back she can hook up with Donny Long and they can build a lab in someone’s garage, right next to the ’75 Monte Carlo Long calls home.

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