LA Direct Owner, Derek’s Fist Fight

The question is not whether or not LA Direct Model’s Owner, Derek Hay (aka Ben English)  got in a fight this weekend. We know he did. The question is whether he was the beat-er or the beat-ee.  Derek was at a party and got in a punching match. I’m waiting for the details to come in.

30 thoughts on “LA Direct Owner, Derek’s Fist Fight

  1. jeremiahsteele says:

    Huh? A one way punching match? The only thing Derek can beat is his meat. ‘Nuff said.

  2. can we do something about this fucking font, it’s hideous

  3. What, the allegely (that is the working word) biggest pimp (porn for sure, allgely escorting too) in So Cal and probably in the US getting beated by a photographer?
    No way!

    Somebody has been lying to me. I apologice.
    P.D.
    If the person that has been lying to me is right after all the real money is in escorting not in porn. So the prices in porn are being driven up to push the whores into escorting.
    After all how many porn shoot can do a whore in porn vs how many tricks can she do in the same week? And the cut of the agency is far greater in escorting.

  4. Larry Horse says:

    Thanks to TSF Christian, Derek/Ben was at a party on Fri or Sat, but there’s been no update about Sunday. Since Christian is usually attached to the buttcheek to Derek socially(and if not Derek, Demi Delia for sure, nothing like being one of the girls), I imagine there will be a story of how Derek kicked somebody’s ass, but mysteriously will be wearing sunglasses at the office today. It would be great if Donny Long did the beatin’ but he would have to leave the “studio” to do it, and also it would have to be a woman for Donny to have any chance…other than Christian, the pussy without a pussy. Steele, you could even kick Christian’s ass.

  5. The Colonel says:

    I’d love to see a true gladiator fight until death with swords, spikes, bare fists and teeth; Christian the faggot vs. Donkey Bong, my beautiful boy toy Kurt Lockwood vs. Ben the English scum, and Germy Steal vs. Roy Garcia. There’s nothing more entertaining than watching broken, bloody, torn bodies scatter on the ground and listening to painful cries of agony and horror. Those ancient Roman fuckers knew the entertainment.

  6. Moody Blue says:

    “Huh? A one way punching match? The only thing Derek can beat is his meat. ‘Nuff said.”

    I am pretty sure that I don’t want to know how you know that. Having heard about product you have been involved in, I can guess.

  7. jeremiahsteele says:

    Me knows Derek is no man from my experiences of him launching text assaults from his girlfriend’s phone which he was spying on, then unwilling to answer a phone. Yeah, he’s tough, like that phony Black Hand in the Godfather movie before Don Corleone put a bullet in his head. Yeah, I’ve done a few jobs as Hand Solo. So? It’s clean, safe sex, pays better than bukkakka… and I’m a sexy cock monkey.

  8. Moody Blue says:

    Dude, I was joking!

  9. I have heard that it was Derek kicking the dude, and he by far won the argument or disagreement. I was not there that night since I was on the road. but that is the alleged report from the club

  10. Wow, what a great lifestyle the porn industry offers: fist fights, calling each other names and tearing each other apart. You guys STILL don’t get it. You really are made for GREATER things than porn! You are loved.

  11. The Colonel says:

    Sure, Shelly. We are made for greater things such as donating money to scum like you and other phony religious organizations and watching your priests ass fuck our children in the name of god. Think again. Fuck you. In fact, you don’t get it, because either you’ve lost your mind and shoved your head deep up your fat ass, or you’re a lying, self serving cunt with personal agendas. There was a time when some clueless, naive, uneducated people would buy your bulshit and allow you to their personal lives and let you take advantage of them and fuck with them and turn them into your pawns, but in case you haven’t noticed, that’s all gone now. The industry people see your true colors, the real Shelly Lubben, the liar, the theif, the parasite. So do the humanity a favor, stick your god and your love up your fat ass and go fuck yourself. If there is a hell, I’ll see you there.

  12. Moody Blue says:

    Colonel, why is it that us porn folks LEAP to defend the First Amendment – unless someone says something about religion or morality that might threaten our bottom line?

    Maybe Ms. Lubben has a point worth considering. And maybe some of us who have been in the shitfest for too long can’t, or won’t, hear anything that does not support debauchery and debasement and profiting from it.

    I respect what she has to say and will defend her right to say it freely, just as anyone else’s. Maybe it is time that those of us who have been doing this since the 70’s should look past our money to something larger.

    If you disagree, eat shit and bark at the moon. That is the response I am sure you will give me when you read this.

  13. Moody Blue says:

    And another thing Colonel, I just went and looked over Ms. Lubben’s website, and that examination reveals that your saying “Sure, Shelly. We are made for greater things such as donating money to scum like you and other phony religious organizations” kinda gets flushed down the shitter. There is no link to donate anything on that site and no solicitation for money at all.
    I don’t know why you are so irrationally pissed at religion and God and anyone who thinks that there might be a power greater than an orgasm and a bank account in the universe that loves each one of us, but get the fuck over it. At least know what you are talking about before you open your damn suckhole and spout more innacurate horseshit. Sounds to me that Ms. Lubben might be hitting a little too close to the truth for you.

    For once maybe you should listen. And learn.

  14. The Colonel says:

    Moody Blue, there is a fine line between the good intentions and personal agendas, but I’m sure an ass kissing, attention seeking, lame, moronic, $2.00 scumbag like you doesn’t understand that, and I’m not going to waste my time or anybody else’s on this board to educate you, but I tell you this: porn is a business, anybody can get in, and anybody can get out, I never brought anybody to this business, and I never helped anybody getting out of it either. I produce movies, I hire people to perform and pay them at the end of the day, I’m not a part of their lives, they’re not a part of my life either. That’s what I do, and I never tried to justify my profession. People work for me, I pay them, people respect me, I’ll be cool to them, people fuck with me, I’ll bury them. As simple as that, but what about you, jack shit? Whose side are you on, and what do you do anyway? I see you here all the time, kissing Jeremy Steele’s ass left and right, and praising Ron Jeremy as the greatest guy in porn, and believing in Shelly Lubben as the rightous mother of god vs. the evil army of pornography. I believe I have enough information about you to figure out how crazy, clueless, pathetic, and stupid you are, I don’t need to hear or know anymore from you, I don’t even want to know a piece of shit like you exisis. The end of conversation

  15. The Colonel says:

    For the record, and for the last time, a business woman like Shelly Lubben doesn’t need to put a link on her myspace page to fuck people and get money from them. She does that through phone confrences, weekend meetings and seminars. I’m not the only noe who has the information about some of Shelly Lubben’s regular activities and contacts, but that’s perhaps for another post.

  16. jeremiahsteele says:

    Hey Shelley,

    Porn = adults having consensual sex
    Priests = adults raping children

    Since you ONLY look at the worst aspects of porn and say that there are much better things awaiting us why don’t you take a look at your own faith and do the same. Be consistent.

  17. I cannot believe that none of you has realized that Shelley is a evangelical Protestant, not Roman Catholic so the argument of priest raping children is useless.

    And statistically the number of pedophile priest is smaller that the number of pedophile teachers. Were the policies of certain diocesis (Law in Boston and Mahoney in LA are the most glaring examples) and some religious orders the ones that allowed a certain small number of pedophile priest do a huge amount of damage.

    About Shelley and the XXX Church finances. While they get donations from the public and charge fees for seminars.
    To my knowledge the main donor is a evangelical millionarie tied to the beer business that choosed to remain in the background.

  18. “tied to the beer business”? Ah, a real moralist, who just hates to see vultures profit off people’s weaknesses & addictions, huh?

  19. The Colonel says:

    Rics, I know about the protestant background of Shelly Lubben, by refering to phedophile priests I tend to represent a general image of religion and the scum who profit off religion. Catholic, protestant, judaism, islam, the same hypocrisy, different brand. Religion is bullshit, religion is lie, opiate for the masses, and regardless of shape, size and color of the hat they wear, all priests are the same, they’re all parasites full of shit, and the world will be a better place without them.

  20. jeremiahsteele says:

    i cannot believe that you don’t realize that i don’t care…

    roman, protestant, whatever, obviously them priests ain’t jewish. the point was that porn has it’s negative aspects just like anything. it’s a service industry dammit and compared to other professions it ain’t so bad. it’s also the last vestige left of the wild, wild west, so hurry on up girlies n get the gold while there’s still some left; before this whole shithouse goes up in flames

  21. Moody Blue says:

    The Colonel said “they’re all parasites full of shit, and the world will be a better place without them.”

    Takes one to know one asshole.

  22. The Colonel says:

    Moody Blue, you piece of shit, I know you’re crazy and fucked up and can’t be controlled , but before you open your toliet of a mouth and say something stupid to further embarrass yourself and make even a bigger ass of yourself, I’m gonna ask you one question, and I want you to use whatever is left of your brain, your common sense and your dignity, and really think about the answer: why should I give two fucks about you and your worthless, lame, stupid comments? Why should anybody with half a brain give two fucks about you and what you say? Do I care everytime I blow my nose? No. Do I care every time I take a shit? No. So tell me why should I care every time a jerk off, low life, low IQ, high on drugs, two face, double anal, ass eating, scum sucking, dumpster diving mother fucking piece of shit like you pulls something our of his mother’s rectum? Give me one good, solid reason. Don’t use my own comments to answer me, and don’t “side” with anybody else. Just tell me why should I give two fucks about you? I know your kind, son. You’re a fucking loser, you ain’t got no balls, you ain’t got no guts, you ain’t got no life. Probably you work a shitty dead end job in a rat hole office, or you might be on SSI for physical or mental disability. You want to escape from your miserable pathetic little life, so you browse the internet and try to pick up some virtual fights, but I’m not like you, in fact, nobody here is like you, you’re all alone, by yourself, out in the fucking cold. Just get over it and pull the plug, take the exit, kill yourself, do it, do it, do it. Shoot yourself in the mouth, hang youself, take the whole sleeping pills bottle, drown your head in the toilet bowl, and put yourself out of misery and shame and everyday embarrassment. And remember, if you decided to be a man and choose what is right for you by commiting suicide, let us know in advance, post your name and your family contact information, that is if you have any family at all. I’ll try to make some time and come to your funeral so I can piss on your grave.

  23. Moody Blue says:

    Then please ignore me and shut the fuck up. For someone who doesn’t care what I say, you sure expend a lot of energy and verbiage ignoring me. I don’t know what your problem with me is and care even less. And your accusing me of not having a life assumes you have the slightest fucking clue who I am and what I do, and you don’t. Please ignore me next time in less than two full paragraphs. I will be ignoring you in none.

    What a fucking reprobate loser. Please stop pretending that you are a player in this business. You aren’t, and everyone reading this site knows it. You are a has been – sorry, a never were. Anyone who is a player would have something better to do than assault someone they don’t even know. Like, you know, making money. That is what I am doing. What you are doing I couldn’t care less to know.

    Please shut the fuck up and actually ignore me. PLEASE.

  24. The Colonel says:

    Moody Blue, thank you for proving my point: there is no reason to give two fucks about you and your loser comments, so I’ll gladly ignore you just like I ignore the piece of shit that comes out of my ass every morning. Go fuck your mother.

  25. An evangelical millionaire tied to the beer business? Now that one I haven’t heard. Some of you assume much about me but have never taken the time to get to know me. Do you have any idea how much hard work and commitment it takes to help porn stars rebuild their lives after porn? Just think about that. Wait, don’t just think about it, go do it and then let me know what you think about me then. It is VERY hard work. I have loved until it hurts. My whole family has loved those in the industry and invited them in our home to live, we have cared for them while they are sick, loved them even when they lie to us, helped them find safer places to live, reunited them with their family members, visited them in jail, helped them find jobs, driven down to the Valley from Bakersfield to take them to dinner only to have some of them not show up and yet we STILL keep trying to reach them and love them. And donations, I get very little donations compared to other ministries. You really think a bunch of churches want to support an ex porn star who helps porn stars? Think again. I do this because I LOVE people in the porn industry and truly believe all of you are made for something better. I really mean that. I do ask for donations on my web site because it DOES cost money to run a foundation and help people. I do speak a few times a year to cause awareness and receive an honorarium which helps to support my work. But I am a Mom of three and can’t travel around to have some big evangelist ministry. I work mainly at home. I raise my kids and care for my family. I reach out to porn stars through the internet and on the phone. I drive down to San Fernando Valley to meet women who want my help. You don’t really know me. But if you look closer you will see who I really am. By the way, the main donor of my outreach is not some millionaire but my hardworking husband. My husband works 60-70 hours a week as a medical sales rep who drives about 1000 miles a week to support his wife so she can stay home, raise our children and help porn stars and sex workers. There, now you know a little more about the Lubben Family. We love you no matter what you think of us.

  26. Oops, them I got it wrong about the Esther Fund (maybe you are not working close with the XXX Church anymore).
    Did you or some one close to you said that any donation done to the public to the Esther Fund will be matched dollar for dollar by a undisclosed Christian donor? Or was the XXX Church.
    Do no get me wrong Shelly. I like what you do for the girls. I fact there are a couple of girls I would love to see calling you. But I do think that you are doing too many things at the time.
    And creating a hostile atmosphere between you and the whole porn industry makes difficult for many girls to contact you. BTW, in the discusion between you and Heather in LIB a year ago; you were right.

  27. Thanks Rics. I haven’t worked with xxxchurch on the Esther Fund for a year. I started my own non-profit public charity called Pink Cross Foundation. I really feel I understand the needs of sex workers more than those who haven’t been in the sex industry so this is the main reason why I started my own organization. XXXChurch has different ideas about how to help porn stars than I do. I didn’t feel comfortable with some of them so my hubby and I started Pink Cross Foundation.
    But it’s all good. I’m glad so many people are reaching out to the porn industry. God bless!

  28. formerindustrygal says:

    OMG Slubben please get off your soap box …I got out of the biz , And totally without your sanctimonious , self righteous contribution or preaching to guide me…..Every man and woman in it are over 18 and can make their own choices.

  29. FIG. Good for you.
    But has you realized that everyone brain is wired in a slight different way? That some women do what out but cant becasue addiction and mental illness. Or worse, heavy legal and illegal troubles.
    Yes Shelly, you were right about that man.

  30. formerindustrygal says:

    Im not an unfeeling or uncaring woman Rics , Im just tired of the boo hoo , poor me attitude of a lot of people in this country and this industry

    You should be accountable and admit your own mistakes , the Adult film industry does not victimize women …Every one of us girls whos ever done this knows what a porn video is..and has a good idea of the work expected of you….if you have an unstable personality or emotional issues…find another career

    It just irritates me that slubben blames the industry , we chose to enter on our own accord and this industry paid my rent and put food on my table …and though it has its flaws and faults im not going to blame it for any problems I may have ~~~

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