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Katie Morgan Replies To Selena Silver

Katie Morgan of KSEXradio.com and Nastymodeling.com writes on AdultDVDTalk.com:

First to Selena... DO NOT claim to be a "spokes person" for porn girls. You speak for no one but your self. The rest of us are quite capable thanks. You are not defending any one, because no one else decided they had a problem after the fact. This entire fight is YOUR fault for being ignorant of the facts. EVERYONE knew that the games were going to VOD, it was ADVERTISED before it was even shot. Of course the movie companies have to pay wholesale for the tapes, did they pay for the cameras, the film, the editing, the duplicating, or ANY other expense that goes into making a movie? No they didn't. YOU were HIERED by the movie company, NOT by ksex. Everyone else understood that. Some girls worked for companies that decided to pay their girls, (mostly for insurance that they would come) and others did it for free, for fun, and for publicity.

This was NEVER put out to be a "not for profit event", it WAS put out to be fun, and good for publicity, and FILMED. While I DO believe that Wankus spoke to you about the games FIRST, you AGREED to work for DVSX, I was there, I didn't see "team ksex" on your uniform... I had two girls from my agency playing for different teams, one was paid by the company she played for, and the other was not. BOTH had a great time, and BOTH are happy with the out come. As for you're getting fired... DUH! I can't imagine how that happened.... If you work for ANY company, and you sit there writing pissed off emails to your boss about something that is YOUR OWN FAULT for WEEKS, I should HOPE that you would get fired. I can't BELIVE it took this long!

You know Selena, it's a DAMN good thing you found porn, because with your attitude, you could NEVER hold a mainstream job. You were NOT wronged, you were ignorant, and that's no ones fault but your own. I REALLY don't appreciate your implication that you "don't even know if you'll get paid for your shows".

Once AGAIN I must point out your ignorance, because had you been sending in your invoice at the end of your pay period, you would have ALREADY been paid. This is another thing that you have to do in the real world. See on set the nice man HANDS you your paper work, and does all the filing for you. :) Isn't he nice? But Ksex is a REAL job, and you have to turn in a timecard... Say it with me TIMECARD, wasn't that fun. You have been UNBELIVABLY RUDE, and all you've proved to everyone (AGAIN) is that silly porn girls get confused. That is WHY you shouldn't speak for others... YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

To Every one else... I have worked at Ksex for LONGER that Selena has been in the industry. I have been female talent for four years, and I have been managing girls with Nasty Modeling for almost two years. As someone who DOES know better that Selena, let me say, Ksex is a GREAT company to work for. They DO help with publicity, sorry Chico, but they do. They are VERY FAIR HONEST AND FUN, but it is a REAL job. There are some GREAT shows to listen to and there are ALOT if BIG name stars to watch. So I would HOPE that you can all chalk this up to a misunderstanding, by someone who has blow it WAY out of proportion. Ksex is great, the games were fun, and all it takes is one mouth attached to an angry confused person to start a fight about nothing. Sorry if I was rude, but this is MY ksex family she's slaming, and MY girls she's speaking for. That is SOOOOOO not cool.

Chico Wanker Wang writes:

Katie, out of curiosity, how does KSEX help with promotions? Do girls who go on KSEX get more work than those who do not? Do they get higher rates because of an appearance on KSEX? Does it suddenly create a higher demand for them (which is what promotions are all about?)? Does it create monumental amounts of traffic to their websites?

The answer to all these are no, no, no, no. A hot girl is a hot girl. Once people shoot them and word travels within the industry fast, they are hired repeatedly. If a girl looks like a bloated gopher with buck teeth and zits all over her ass, no amount of KSEX appearances will help at all.

Quasarman writes:

I co-hosted a show with Gauge on KSEX for over a year. Only recently did I have to resign because I simply didn't have the time anymore to commit to doing a weekly show. I had never put in an invoice for payment for any of the shows I participated in because I was doing the show for fun, not money. Immediatley upon my leaving the station Wankus presented me with a check for every single show I had done to the penny. This is money I viewed as irrelevant and I never would have asked for it. In my opinion that makes him a stand-up guy.

As far as the KSEX games are concerned, I co-hosted the event with Ginger Lynn and we both had a blast. Truthfully I would have done it for free even though I was paid a nominal fee. My main objectives were to drink, crack jokes and show some love to AdultDVDEmpire by being a part of the event. Indeed, all of the companies involved got to see their names and logos in multiple press releases on multiple web sites and most importantly, on the home page of AdultDVDEmpire in the weeks leading up to and after the event. Everyone involved knew that this was going to be a downloadable event FOR PROFIT. Hell, I even paid the $7.95 to watch the goddamned thing!. I guess I'm just a sucker.

As far as making a DVD of the event and selling it FOR PROFIT I say "Who f@#$ing cares". Does anyone really believe that this title will be in direct competition with the next volume of "One in the Pink, One in the Stink"? Not by a long shot. If Wankus shot a bonafide porn flick featuring many of the hallmarks of porn valley's top companies and didn't pay the girls because of the alleged "promotion" they'd be receiving he'd be a complete asshole and anyone who participated in such a project would be an idiot. The one time that Wankus DID make such a movie (Sexual Frequency I believe is the title) he DID pay everyone involved their rate without argument.

If the KSEX games are released on DVD and it becomes a hit (in porn that generally means somewhere in the vicinity of 2500 pieces) should Wankus then disperse the profits amongst everyone who participated? The return on your average porn flick is about enough to pay your employees and make another movie. How much do you think everyone would get? Something that perhaps has not been thought of by any of the parties involved is that a DVD of the KSEX games could potentially be sold by "legitimate" retailers such as Fry's and Tower Records due to it's innocuous, non-explicit content. This means that there's a potential for Joe Schmoe to pick up a copy of the DVD along with a Dust Buster and a Tim McGraw CD, take it home and suddenly know who Red Light District and DVSX are.

If Wankus sells this thing to HBO for a million bucks I'll be the first one looking for a royalty check but let's look at the reality of the situation. Some good companies got some free publicity and everyone involved had a good time. If Wankus makes a few bucks, I won't be losing sleep over it. and besides..... I signed a release!

As far as exploitation of the girls in the biz I have only this to say .... you can pay a girl a thousand bucks to have 50 sex offenders cum all over her for a Bukkake video, you can pay a girl a few hundred bucks to be endangered and humiliated on Meatholes.com, or you can pay a girl cab fare to gargle the urine of someone like Max Hardcore. I suppose because they got paid SOMETHING that this isn't exploitation. Some will say that these girls new what they were getting into and agreed on the price. Let's look at the KSEX games... no random semen in mass quantities, no double anal from homeless men and no urine to digest AND everyone agreed to do it for free.

I guess the moral is that it's okay to sell your soul in humiliating circumstances as long as the money goes into YOUR pocket but it's "exploitation" to have an afternoon of fun and games and promotion with a "potential" profit going into someone else's.

Above all else is the irrelevancy of whether ot not KSEX provides genuine "promotion" to the girls in the biz. I know that I've personally hired 3 girls who were guests on my show and several other girls who were guest on others. Does that equate to "Howard Stern" caliber exposure? Absolutely not, but it gave a few girls some duckets in their pockets. Hell, the first time I heard the name "Selena Silver" was because of reading a recap of a KSEX show.

I have no idea about the listenership of KSEX but no one is forced to host shows, no one is forced to participate in events, no one is forced to do a f-cking thing!!! so why not let the chips fall where they may. KSEX will either grow and prosper or it will wither and fold. Only time will tell. In the meantime, R E L A X.

Selena I think you're great and you're a tremendous performer but I've been in this industry long enough to know that your husband wrote the initial diatribe in this thread and that he's the one who's truly pissed because he feels that he missed an opportunity to make even more money off of you.

Porn star Cytherea writes:

I was a late edition to the KSEX games. I was part of the Wicked team. I was told from the very beginning that I would NOT be paid for my participation. All of my dealings and preparation for this event took place between myself and Wicked. I had no dealings with KSEX. I was also aware that the events were going to be edited and possibly released. I looked at this event as I look at all KSEX events. Good promotions for me.

I believe that KSEX has always been a good avenue for me to promote myself. Lets be real, we all get good press and have a hell of a lot of fun. That is why we all keep coming back and showing up. I certainly dont need the $20.

Why dont I see the same amount of outrage directed to AVN. Every year they sell thousands of copies of their footage from the AVN AWARDS show in Vegas. I dont believe that anyone is paid and they clearly profit from our bodies and work.

As you know, I stay out of everyones business but when you call for a boycott of KSEX, you are taking eyeballs off of my show and therefore affecting my career. I have always heard that you were one of the more intelligent couples in all of porn. For you to claim now that "I didnt know, I wasnt told, I was lied to, I didnt understand, etc, etc, etc." seems a bit unbelievable. Sounds like sour grapes to me.

I have problems with Wankus and I am sure that he has more than one problem with me. But he and I handle our problems where they should be handled IN PRIVATE. This is not an appropriate forum.

Renee Pornero writes:

I participated in the KSexGames and I loved it (even though my team lost because I sucked..haha!) I knew that it's for promotion only and I knew as well that they will release a DVD and stuff. I participated because it was DVSX who asked me and I just love them! Besides that I don't have any problem with not getting paid when it's supposed to be a promotional thing. I go on KSex Radio for the same reason. Just for promotion. And Chico, when I promote myself, I don't do it to get more jobs or higher rates, I do it for my fans and to get more popular, so people buy more videos. And I think it's ok that they - in this case KSex - make money out of it since they have a lot of work with it. The only thing I think is unfair that some people get paid and others don't. Well, in this case I was just in the wrong team I guess! No offense, DVSX.

Quasarman writes:

Cytherea's magic vagina damaged my camera. Should I create a post about how I didn't expect her to shoot God-knows-what out of her cooze without providing me with an underwater camera housing and thus she now owes me $800.00 dollars for a new XL1 lens? Nah, it's called "the cost of doing business" and the scene she gave me was worth the damaged lens.

The scene Selena Silver gave me in the lastest "Blow Me Sandwich" was worth the extra thousand dollars we paid her. Maybe the promotional value of the KSEX games was worth the 4 hours out of Selena's life to be "exploited" for the profit of others.

Chico Wang writes:

Rene, the whole purpose of self-promotion is to get more jobs and higher rates by trying to increase fanbase thereby creating demand. Otherwise, I don't understand the purpose of self-promotion. There are alot of pornstars that do porn videos in order to create awareness and higher demand in the escort and strip circuit. It's all part of the game. I don't begrudge KSEX. I know nothing of them. I've had several girls tell me they were going there, free of charge, to promote their websites. I let them know if that's the sole purpose of going on KSEX, it was an absolute waste of time. However, if people go there for fun and sh-ts and giggles, be my guest. But from a promotion perspective, it is nearly negligable. This is not directed against KSEX. It is a point of view unless someone will show me how well it helps 'promotion'.

There are several points I'd like to make:

(1) KSEX is not a non-profit business. Their business model like all business models are out there to make a buck. There's nothing wrong with that.

(2) In order to attract some female guests, they have to come on under the guise of helping girls promote themselves on the show. Often in the case in most businesses, they have to exaggerate the importance of this promotion in order to attract these guests.

(3) Selena Silver (or Kent) knew damn well that the above (1) and (2) were a part of the deal before this Olympics event or whatever it was.

(4) I consider KSEX to be more of a party for the girls and guys involved where they have fun while f-cking around during the show. This is based on articles I have glanced at. I have never listened to the show nor watched it.

(5) What's the point of airing any of this stuff publicly if everyone and his rat-faced granny in the industry knows KSEX is out to make a buck?

Wankus from KSEX writes:

The official KSEX response, as posted on the KSEX message boards.

When we terminated Kent and Selena's radio show on KSEXradio.com, we made a choice to move forward in a professional manner by not name calling, airing dirty laundry and/or publishing any information that could be viewed as negative for either parties involved. When conflict erupts, it is always the best policy in any business to start anew and move on without stooping to a lower level by smearing or attempting to harm the reputation of anyone involved in the situation.

Even after these horribly incorrect accusations, skewed facts and misquoted e-mail excerpts have been published, KSEXradio.com, under advice from our legal team, will not be pushed into a public war of "he said / she said". As of now, this public display of unprofessionalism and false accusations will be handled by the court systems of the State of California.

As a side note for anyone who didn't read it publicly in the countless news stories and posts, here is how the KSEXgames was handled.

Fact: AdultDVDempire and KSEXradio.com merged together on a promotion that they thought would be a great press builder for us and all involved. It was. While the object of the event was for press and promo we did agree to split profits should the advertised event make any money.

Fact: KSEX agreed to handle the creative side of the event. Organize the games, rules, set up, land the venue, provide hosts for play by play, etc. They did.

Fact: AdultDVDempire agreed to contact the movie companies and ask them if they would like to participate in an Olympic style event that will be fun and great press for all involved. An event that would be used as a camaraderie builder among adult stars and a fun day out of competition between the movie companies. An event that would be seen Video on Demand and if good enough, possibly DVD or other venues. AdultDVDempire asked if they were able to field a team for this event. The five companies that participated did just that.

Fact: All movie companies were provided with model and injury releases two weeks before the event. They were told that since this was an on-camera event that whoever they selected to represent their movie company would have to sign a release and provide the required 2257 identification. They did.

Fact: No one who was asked to participate in the event was misled before or the day of the event. The event details were spelled out in detail to the movie companies, e-mails, to the Sex-a-letes in a KSEXgames Handbook and via message boards and adult web news services. Nothing was ever hidden or scammed. We have documentation to confirm all of this, including to DVSX who was responsible for booking Selena Silver to appear in this event.

Fact: Some movie companies paid the girls to be there. Some did not. KSEX paid their staff that worked in the games. The crew that KSEX was responsible for to participate.

Fact: Wankus received NO PRODUCERS fee. No fee of any kind.

Fact: Adam & Eve had no connection with this event aside from participating as a team. If they plan on marketing the DVD when it is released, like all the other companies, they have that option.

Fact: All the girls will be offered the DVDs to sell for their own profits as well.

Fact: In the credits of the DVD, all Sex-a-letes were listed by name and personal URL so fans could find them

Fact: KSEX is receiving multiple emails from talent that participated for free, asking to be included in the next one. There have also been emails and phone calls from movie companies and talent that did not appear, asking to be included in the next one.

Summary: Anyone who participated in this event was informed of every detail of the event. If they did not want to appear in the promotion under the circumstances of what they were presented by the movie company who booked them, they should have told the movie company to not include them. Had KSEX or anyone involved in this promotion promised payment and not delivered, then that is a whole different story. People were involved under their own free will and everyone was in the loop on that.

In Regards to KSEXradio.com

Fact: KSEX is funded by memberships, advertisers and in the past from a sister company that provides non-ksex content and offers the KSEX streaming cams as a leasing package as well.

Fact: KSEX does not sell footage or photographs from any of their past shows to any venue. Never has.

Fact: KSEX is seen in short clips on Blue Kiss TV in scattered countries in Asia. KSEX receives no monetary compensation for that. It is a trade agreement with the network in an attempt to receive promotion and recognition in hopes of increasing audience size.

Fact: All KSEX hosts are paid $20 dollars per hour to host sex talk radio shows. [Part time radio hosts in broadcast radio market #2, Los Angeles are paid between $8 and $20 dollars per hour.]

Fact: KSEXradio hosts are also given the KSEX Members Area for their websites for free. Which means, fans can join the hosts website to view KSEX, giving them a chance to make the money for themselves.

Fact: KSEXradio gives their hosts free commercial air time on the radio station. They record a commercial, KSEX plays it for them at no cost to them.

Fact: Everyone that hosts a show on KSEX is compensated for their participation. There is not a person who has ever worked as a host who can say that they haven't been paid, including Selena and Kent who have checks waiting for them at the office since the time of their termination. A quote they neglected to include in their termination email from August 18, 2004 says, "We have two checks for you that cover monies due for all the hours you have worked on KSEX, not including last weeks show. You can invoice separately for those shows by following the normal procedure that was explained to you when you came on board with KSEX. Our bookkeeper cannot find record of your signed W-9 forms so before you receive the payment, we will need you both to fill the forms out. Harry will have your checks at the office beginning tomorrow [Thursday] and you may pick them up between the hours of 10:00am and 4:00pm (PST)."

Fact: The Silvers were called and emailed countless times and asked to attend a face to face meeting in regards to the termination of their show. When there was no response, they were terminated by email so that there was at least a paper trail.

Fact: On rare occasions, industry photographers "Ernie and Gordon" attended KSEX shows to take pictures for popular adult magazines. They came to provide coverage of the shows, the stars and the radio station. A thing they do at many industry events and porn sets not affiliated with KSEX. We became aware at a later date that they were getting small submission fees from the magazines that they were sending photos and text to but we allowed it because we felt the promotion for all parties involved who would be represented in some of those high end adult magazines was well worth it. When the Silvers expressed their concerns of being photographed, we asked them not to return on that show. They didn't. Further, Selena and Kent were given 60 prints of the shots took on August 1st of this year and offered to them as something they can use on their site or own self promotion.

Fact: The listening and viewing audience totals for KSEX on any given day are between three to five thousand listeners at peak times. Our later shows do drop down considerably because we lose the audience on the east coast but in general, between the live shows and the few times they are replayed, as well as all the industry press coverage most of the shows receive, there is GREAT VALUE in appearing on KSEX.

In Summary: Our hosts are not lied to, our guests are not deceived. We provide all the facts whenever asked and all the details to hosts as they sign on to be a part of the team. We have about 40 hosts, many of them big name stars and most importantly many who have been on the station for many years. If the things that were falsely stated against us were true, there would be no loyalty among the KSEX staffers. We have worked too long and too hard at being fair to talent. We have always been and always will be.

The Non-Issue "Porn Star Karaoke"

This is the amusing part of the posts.

PSKclub began when Aria, Sun & Konnie of DVSX and I went out for fun to sing. The next thing we knew, everyone started coming. Because we were giving the club such great promotion, Seymour who owns the club agreed to list us as "sponsors" of the event. Our logos were on a sign at the club and the press listings included that as well.

No money between any companies changed hands. It was "you keep talking me up and I'll give you the credit."

When I agreed to host the event as a "worker" not a patron, he agreed to pay me in the form of an open bar tab and $125 DJ fee. Yes, that is a crime. I should've got more.

Since it became a job and I really didn't have any time to be involved anymore with all the other things going on, I have since resigned and haven't been to PSK in over a month.

In Overall Summary: There's no conspiracy theory here. No secrets, lies or deceit. It's really simple. If people want to participate, they do. If they don't, they don't. KSEX has been a positive place for the adult industry. They have begun careers, boomed awareness of adult stars, given fans a place to interact with stars on a personal level, announced retirements, broke big news stories and given adult stars and directors a forum to promote directly to the fans. There are KSEX haters like there are haters in any business but that does not hinder our goals to be "The Place" to go to have fun, promote yourself and be welcomed at any stage of your adult career."

Is there still any doubt? Not if you read the posts from those affiliated with the games who say they knew full on every detail. Not to mention the intension of the games were disclosed publicly, weeks before the event.

Download the KSEXgames today at KSEXgames.com.

Chico Wang writes:

This is a hilarious thread over trivial bullsh-t.

I have to say one thing. I have never met a pornstar like Selena Silver who is so immersed in self-promotion. She's great although I've always had the feeling she was actually a 'he'. I shot her once. She was organized, on time, and very professional. I heard from others that Selena describes herself as a publicity machine (whatever that means). But I had to tell her one thing before the shoot. I informed her that I did not want any 'publicity' about the shoot. If I wanted it, I'd do it myself.

The only thing that annoyed me was that her husband had to sit on the shoot the entire time.

My general rule is that if a girl is going to bring someone to the shoot, the guy has to sign a model release and dump a load for free. He also has to get me beer. If these three criteria are not met, you are out of my set or shooting hoops in my backyard.

You're bringing a complete stranger to my set without my authorization. Although he didn't bother the set at all and acted professionally, it was an unwelcome, unnecessary invasion of my set.

I will say that this was the first time a stranger on my set refused to sign a model release, wouldn't dump a load, didn't get me beer, and just sat there watching the money train pass by.

This is the only reason I will never hire Selena again. They have their rules, I have mine. And I'm the only one to hire her from the Anabolic/Diabolic camp. Funny thing about this whole thing is that 'her' public diatribe against KSEX has destroyed her credibility she spent years of building.

After all, isn't this a case of "I want my money!" more than anything else? If the girls were doing a publicity event with nudity (which they are accustomed to), having fun jumping around in potato sacks, and sucking on large dildos, what exactly is all this over? $300? $400? $500? This is pretty pitiful and pathetic from the Silver's camp.

On Set With Kara Nox, Rob Spallone

The black people on Rob Spallone's sets always look so happy, singing and dancing with a spontaneity that makes us white folks feel downright awkward.

(If I'm going to bag on racial stereotypes, why do I fall back on the tired and lame ones? Because I am tired and lame.)

Sylvio Bishop Bishop Bishop talks to the man Rob Spallone obliterates his wife's name (Helena) with this new tattoo

For the last few years, I've noticed that Rob Spallone has suffered severely from psoriasis (caused by stress). Now that he's getting divorced, his skin problems are gone. He looks better. He's off all medication. Rob's arm hurts from his new tattoo. It's a tad inflamed.

Rob and his new girlfriend Kara Nox

Porn star Kara Nox has brought a sweetness and joy to Rob's life that's developed a whole new side in him. They've been dating for a couple of months now. They'd get married except she's already married to John, an occasional porn performer.

In three years in porn, Kara has done 12 movies. She's pacing herself. But Rob is bringing out her inner porn star. He wants her to become the ho she can be.

Rob and Kara met on the set of Toilet Bowl Bitches #5. It was love at first sight.

It was her smile that smote him, and her tits. When she strapped it on, he was in seventh heaven. He'd never taken it before. Under her experienced hand, he learned to submit.

Kara Nox has Rob wrapped around her little finger. They spent last weekend in Rob's vacation home in Palm Springs.

Kara and Rob played golf, laid by the pool, and went shopping for $3400 worth of new clothes for her.

It turns out that Kara is Rob's niece. Her father is John Gotti. Her uncle is Reuben Sturman.

You'd be smiling too if you feel asleep every night cradling Rob Spallone in your arms.

The face that launched a thousand ships (and Rob Spallone's Orange County yacht).

Kara gazes into Rob's eyes and tells him all the wonderful things she sees.

Kara Nox Kara Nox Kara Nox Ron Sullivan, Kara Nox

"Are you a space alien?" asks Rob. "Because your ass is out of the world."

Rob Spallone's brother Bishop Kara Nox makes goo goo eyes at Rob Spallone.

Kara Nox Kara Nox

Rob's old girlfriend Randy Wright is back in the business with World Modeling. Or is she moving to Derek at LADirectmodels?

Hollyweird Gossip About Jenna Jameson

Hollyweird Gossip writes:

I love Jenna. She has always been kind to me on the many occasions I have been in her presence. I even got one of those bobble head dolls. Yes Jenna is and icon. But after reading through her new book, my impression of her has changed. Yes, I know Jenna Jameson is the First Lady of Porn, and she needs to sell books, and nobody dare speak any ill of her-especially to AVN. But in her new book she forgets to mention some of her more checkered past- being passed around at a bachelor party and f-cked by everyone in site while she was in a coked up stupor, they way she changes peoples names so they cannot sue her for making false statements. Leaving boyfriends bankrupt because of her out of control spending, trashing her good "friends" when they have been nothing but supportive of her and her empire. Yes, this is a real class act.

I guess if people new the real behind the scenes story it would not even hurt her golden image. Men love tramps. I wonder what will happen when she is old and not the hot commodity anymore? When she has flapjacks for tits and her chin implant droops? All she will have is some awards, a big house, and her paid friends to keep her company. Since she is now alienating a lot of her real friends. How sad. I wonder if she will end up like Norma Desmond in Sunset Blvd....ready for her close up living in a fantasy land. Oh wait- that is the present.

Shadowy Addiction

Cyberporn Is Having Damaging Effects on Users Who Can't Stop Clicking

Aug. 27, 2004 - The ads are all over the Web. Between spam cluttering e-mail boxes and pop-up notices springing up on browsers, all the sex anyone might desire is just a mouse click away.

"The number of fetish sites on the Web would astonish you," said New York-based sex therapist Dorothy Hayden. "Women with body hair . bestiality . it staggers the imagination."

Most of us navigate quickly past the come-ons. But for some who are enticed to open these cyber doors, one click can ruin their lives.

"I thought it was just a recreational thing that I could do on my own, but it cost me everything," said Michael Leahy.

Sharon Mitchell Leaving AIM?

Gene Ross reports on Adultfyi.com:

Sharon Mitchell may be leaving AIM as its director. And maybe within a month, though she's likely to stay on the board of directors. Sources tell me that Dr. Mitch is going into private practice and is basically down about the industry- the recent HIV crisis not helping matters any plus the fact that the state appears to be ready to step in and mandate condoms. I also hear there was an incident recently where Mitch's boyfriend walked out of a restaurant when someone recognized her. I also hear from sources that Mitch hates the fact that there are still nude photos/videos available of her.

Chico Wang: "I Don't Understand The Fuss'

Chico (Wanker) Wang writes on AdultDVDTalk.com:

I don't understand what all this fuss is. Of course KSEX is out to make money. Is this some sort of revelation? And to make money, they have to pretend they're doing some tremendous public service for the free girls with this amazing 'promotion' in exchange for a free appearance. Anybody or any girl who thinks otherwise has to be about as stupid as a bucket of meal worms.

Here's a little hint for some of the girls out there. KSEX neither increases your value as a performer or gives you tremendous promotions. Nothing out there does unless you want to go to mainstream radio or tv or movies on a regular basis. Nothing. They have about a dozen listeners. If you think I'm talking out of my ass, here's another thing.

Nothing on l-keford.com will promote you either. Nor AVN. Why? Most people don't read this crap or listen to it either. Selena, I'm happy you were spurned but don't act surprised at what you already knew.

Jill Kelly Productions

James Boston writes on AdultDVDTalk.com:

JKP, on the other hand, should raise eyebrows just looking through information that's publically available. When you look at how they're capitalized, structured, and shelled you've gotta wonder why it's set up like it is and why the parties involved are involved. It's unusual business practice until proven otherwise, but it looks like how you'd set up a stage of your operation if you've gotta clean some dollar bills.

Wells: 'Low-key genius in L-ke F-ord's The Producers: Profiles in Frustration'

Jeffrey writes:

There's a kind of low-key genius in L-ke F-ord's "The Producers: Profiles in Frustration" (iUniverse), a just-released book composed of question-and-answer interviews Ford did with 68 producers. It's in his decision not to write a damn thing about who these people are or what any of it finally means. He lets them say it, and lets us draw our conclusions, and that's that.

This is hardly an original approach, but it sure gives you food for thought and then some. In a way you can almost feel THE PRODUCERS: PROFILES IN FRUSTRATION taking flight inside you after you've finished reading it, like a bird. Because it's not just about "producers," but the life force inside the practitioners of this profession.

Selena Silver: Wankus/KSEX Fired Me On My Birthday

Selena Silver writes on AdultDVDTalk.com:

I have spent nearly eighteen months in this business building a reputation - with both industry insiders and porn fans. A reputation as a girl who is a total professional. I am counting on that reputation now. I KNOW that people will believe me.

I also believe that even in the porn industry or, as a woman I respect very much put it - ESPECIALLY in the porn industry you have to be willing to take a moral stand. No matter what that costs you - if you are involved in something that is wrong you must be willing to raise your hand up and say "this is wrong". I did just that - and doing that got me fired from KSEX.

According to the tersely worded email [that's right, Wankus didn't fire me face to face or even over the phone - he did it through an email 5 hours and 35 minutes before the show that more effort had gone into than any show we had ever done was scheduled to begin (we had to cancel 12 guests!)], the firing is due to "creative and business differences".  Wankus Email #1 (August 18, 2004)

I wonder what those differences could be?

I know what those differences are not.

Those differences are not a problem of reliability or work ethic. I know that I showed up and did a new show every single week for my first 24 weeks in a row- that is a long time in porn valley! Those differences aren't a problem of my lack of promotion or support of KSEX. Not even KSEX themselves worked the web as hard as I did to drive listeners to the station or to join their website. Those differences aren't the ratings of the show...week in and week out over time the only show that had more listeners than ours was Wankus' Wednesday night show - the one that followed ours. And no show had more "unique listeners" (people who only logged in only to hear our show and didn't listen to another show); in fact, we had 2-3 times as many unique listeners as any other show). Wankus Weekly Statistics Emails

Those differences also weren't the quality or direction of the show. The very day these "differences" began Wankus was trying very hard to move us to Mondays so he could expand our show to two hours.  Wankus Email #2 (August 3, 2004)

He bragged about our show.

I know by now many of you are confused.

I know what you are thinking... you are thinking if you have had someone who shows up every single week and puts on high quality shows that pulls more unique listeners than any other show on your station and tirelessly promotes joining your membership website... why would you want to get rid of them? Right?

Well, are you ready? Here is why Wankus and KSEX made that decision. Because, I dared to say that Wankus and KSEX were wrong.

About what?

I believe that if you want to use the brand name and naked body of a porn star to make a profit for yourself, you should pay her. Wankus and KSEX do not.  Wankus Email #3 (August 6, 2004)

That is the "creative and business differences" between us.

THE TRUTH ABOUT THE KSEX GAMES

It all began with the filming of the KSEX Games

When Wankus approached me about the KSEX Games and asked me to participate he told me it was - and I am going to quote - "a family picnic for fun and promotion". I didn't even know there was any filming going on at all. This happened to other people as well. There is a very well-known agent who had girls booked for the event who was shocked to hear there was filming. He hadn t been told that when his girls were booked either. According to Javier C., owner along with Alex Ladd of DVSX, one of the movie companies that participated in the event, he was also told this was a fun and publicity  event. He also had no idea that Wankus, KSEX, ADE, and Adam & Eve were profiting from the event.

Wankus first got girls (like me) to agree to participate by telling them it was just for publicity . But, he knew he would have to get them to sign model releases to be able to sell the footage of their naked bodies & so &

Next, I was told - by Wankus - that they were going to film it, but only so they could stream it on KSEX like a KSEX show. I paused for a second because it was different than what I was told, but I thought... it is for KSEX...okay. Wankus even went out of his way to tell me there would be NO DVD made of the event. Maybe if a lot of people watch this one, next year we can film one and sell it on DVD, he said.

Was that true?

No. It wasn't. Why would he go out of his way to tell me there was no DVD ?

I think it was because he didn t want anyone to know he was making a regular for profit porn movie if anyone found out, they would want to be paid!

I feel bad for AdultDVDEmpire, the KSEX partner in the event they were very honest in their promotion (unfortunately, which began AFTER the filming was completed). They said, we are going to charge you to watch this on the web or we are going to sell you a DVD of it. No games. No bullsh-t. No bush league "do it for the publicity" crap. Just an honest - we are making and selling a for-profit adult DVD.

For the record, I am a member of AdultDVDEmpire.com and have purchased several movies from them (yes, really!). I think the world of them. I don t have any evidence that they attempted to mislead anyone at all and I hope that they are not lumped in with KSEX in this indictment. I also hope when they read how KSEX handled things, they will put some pressure themselves on KSEX to make things right.

Why was Wankus and KSEX not honest and upfront with female talent before the filming of the "KSEX Games" movie? Because they didn't have any money to pay them. So they lied. And, Wankus - who called me friend - lied to my face so he could use my name and naked body along with all the other porn stars to put money in his pocket without having to pay me.

The bottom line? The KSEX Games is just like any other porn movie project. It is made for profit and available for sale on VOD and soon to be DVD. According to Wankus, KSEX and ADE are splitting the money from the VOD and Adam & Eve is handling the distribution of the DVD. Why wouldn t the girls get paid just like they do when they appear in a Jules Jordan movie from Evil Angel or an Alex Ladd movie from DVSX?

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NOTE: On their own, the movie company PRIVATE did pay all of their 7 girls a $500 day rate (a fair industry rate) for their appearance in the movie. KUDOS TO PRIVATE. The rumor is that Private is handling the international distribution of the DVD. If that is true it would explain why they would spend $3500 on the event and then I applaud their honesty in paying their girls a fair rate to appear in a project they are profiting from. If it is not true and they spent the $3500 only to pay girls a fair rate for doing PR for them I applaud them even more.
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THE KSEX GAMES STORY UNFOLDS

Here are the conflicting versions offered up by Wankus & KSEX about the Games:

This is NOT for profit:

This isn t some BIG MOTHER COMPANY coming into town to take advantage of everyone and become rich of their name and images. This was a comradery [sic] builder. This was a family picnic . This was a lets see if we can make this work and get some great press for all involved kind of thing .  Wankus Email #5 (August 5, 2004 )

The sole purpose of KSEXgames was to get some good promo and press for us and all the participants, not to make money on it. Seriously.  Wankus Email #4 (August 4, 2004)

The VOD version will be released first, and then this fall we will release a DVD with the entire event, including extra footage, behind the scenes, interviews, etc.  Empire Man, AdultDVDEmpire AdultDVDTalk.com Thread #42209

[ It is very interesting that for profit porn companies would spend thousands of dollars to organize, film, edit, and release a VOD movie and a DVD with zero intention of profiting on the event. Perhaps the VOD movie and DVD were supposed to be given away at no cost to the fans so it really was just a great press family picnic ?]

We don t have any money to pay the girls:

This is not a high budget company where we can dish out thousands of dollars for events. We do everything on a low budget and are hoping on a return . - Wankus Email #4 August 4, 2004

On his KSEX show, www.ksexradio.com, Wednesday night, Wankus said that the Coliseum had been seriously considered as a venue for last Saturday s Porn Olympics. A $10,000 consideration actually, because that s how much it would have cost to retain it as a venue. And it was booked, according to Wankus. However, the money wasn t a deal breaker as much as the fact that conditions of the agreement set by L.A. City Council would have pre-empted using any of the familiar L.A. Coliseum landmarks as backdrop.  AdultFYI.com article ID# 5151 (August 5, 2004)

[ Hmm &we can spend $10,000 on the venue and not pay the girls a fee? I am not following either the budget (the movie ended up being filmed in a back yard of a private home) or the rationale here. It is the girl s brand names and naked bodies making KSEX money, not the venue the movie was filmed in. But, I guess this is proof that KSEX had the budget to make this movie.

Beyond that, Wankus & KSEX decided to pay Wankus a fee for producing the movie, they payed their tech crew and cameraman, they paid Quaserman & Ginger Lynn to provide the play by play , they paid Michelle Lay and Katie Morgan to do sideline interviews , and they paid Guy Capo to edit the movie. They paid everyone from KSEX just none of the actual female talent in the movie.  Wankus Email #5 (August 5, 2004)

Why would they pay their own KSEX staff (and Wankus himself) if it was just a family picnic for fun and promotion ?]

It isn t our fault the girls didn t get paid; it is ADE and the movie companies fault:

AdultDVDempire.com came to us with idea for a show that featured girls doing Olympic style events in conjunction with the summer games. I said to them, hey &if you re gonna do it, do it right.

ADE has a relationship with all the movie companies and they said they would contact them and see if they could get competitors to be in the event. It was agreed that if the movie companies scored the talent to be in the events, it was up to THEM to pay the girls or give them their own incentives to be on their team. KSEX did not provide any of the talent. The movie companies did.

Basically, this is their event.  [Emphasis added is mine.]  Wankus Email #4 (August 4, 2004)

KSEX was the creative force behind the whole thing , Wankus said, we came up with the contests, organized the events from chalking the fields, placing the cones, bringing up the emcees to making signs, creating detailed RULES handbooks and scoring the awesome venue we used .  AdultFYI.com Article #5436 (August 19, 2004)

[ Javier C, co-owner of DVSX (a major KSEX advertiser by the way) denies that Wankus and KSEX explained the event to them. He denies that DVSX is making ANY money from the event. He states that he was told it was just for press and promotion as well. When the truth about the event was explained to him, he immediately put in several phone calls to Wankus to get an explanation since he didn t understand why KSEX, ADE, and Adam & Eve would be profiting by the use of the DVSX brand name and trademark and DVSX wasn t. At press time of this release, Wankus had still not returned any of Javier C s phone calls.

Javier explicitly states that ANY time DVSX makes a movie and profits from it, they pay their talent. Javier states he was never offered an opportunity to buy the DVD at wholesale and sell it at retail like Wankus promises that he was (which just sounds like a way for Wankus to make more money). Javier pointed out the total lack of logic in that promise if Private, Adam & Eve, DVSX, Red Light District, and Wicked all tried to sell the DVD to their distributors, they would be selling to the same exact distributors. They all sell to the same people! The only people making money would be KSEX.

As far as the awesome venue the event was filmed in a backyard of a private home with only 1 toilet for 80 + people. That toilet ended up breaking halfway through the event and I personally secured a bucket of water that could be used to manually flush the toilet the rest of the day. The girls were there in the hot sun for about 7 hours, and there was some water provided (they ran out) and some snacks.]

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Wankus states that If you don t like the fact that some girls didn t get paid to have a day of fun and great press [Emphasis mine], then your anger should be at the movie companies, NOT KSEX .  Wankus Email #5 (August 5, 2004)

Why would the movie companies pay the girls to appear in a KSEX movie when KSEX wasn t even sharing the profits with the movie companies?

The only people we know for a fact are profiting are KSEX and ADE. We are told by a source very close to Adam & Eve that Adam & Eve is handling the DVD distribution and is expecting to make a killing on it. (If and when that becomes guaranteed fact, I will upgrade the strength in that comment). Shouldn t the only people profiting on the event be the ones to pay the people they are exploiting? Not the movie companies who are also being exploited?

Wankus states that I thought you knew the KSEX philosophy .  Wankus Email #5 (August 5, 2004).

Yes, I do. Wankus comes from an internet sex radio show background. In radio, people make appearances unpaid in exchange for promotion. Clearly, Wankus & KSEX haven t grasped that making a for-profit VOD movie and DVD is NOT a for promotion event and they won t be able to get away with that in the porn world. If you make a movie, you have to pay your girls.

When Jules Jordan of Evil Angel asked on the AdultDVDTalk.com thread what do the girls make from all this? , Wankus got very upset. In fact, his reply to me was:

The problem in any career field, but more obviously in the porn world, is once a very closed minded moron [Emphasis mine] throws out a comment, that comment builds unwarranted animosity .  Wankus Email #5 (August 5, 2004)

So Jules Jordan is a moron because he thinks girls should get paid for appearing in porn movies?

If Jules Jordan or Joey Silvera of Evil Angel books you for a movie you will get paid.

If Alex Ladd or Guy Capo of DVSX books you for a movie you will get paid.

If Brandon Iron or Michael Stefano of Platinum X Pictures books you for a movie you will get paid.

If Wankus and KSEX tell you that they have an event where you will get great promotion , know that they really mean they will make money off of your naked body and your brand name but they won t share the money with you.

THE TRUTH ABOUT WANKUS, KSEX, & MONEY

Jules Jordan specifically asked about the following KSEX events: - (AdultDVDTalk.com Thread # 42209)

Porn Star Karaoke
Wankus replied: The club makes the money. That s it. We go just to have fun .

It is true that KSEX doesn t make money from PSK. Wankus forgot to mention that he was personally getting a nightly promotion fee and free drinks to keep bringing the porn crowd in.

KSEXRadio
Wankus replied: Our hosts get paid, we get membership and advertising money. The fans get paid in great entertainment, the guests get paid in good promo.

KSEX hosts are promised a $20 per hour fee (all but 2 non-Wankus hosts have 1 hour shows). I don t personally know anyone who has actually received the fee. I am submitting an invoice tomorrow (August 27) for the 26 shows we did ($1,040 owed). I will report back on whether we actually get paid that money or not.

Do the guests really get great promotion ? That depends on how big an audience you need to believe you got great promotion. Less than half of the shows on KSEX get 1,000 or more people to listen to their show. The bottom shows get just a few hundred people. Even Wankus s own shows only get between 1,000 and 2,000 a night on the best night. If you are content with getting naked on camera or having sex on camera to influence just 1,000 people then you are getting great promotion . If you thought that there were 100,000 people listening & no, there aren t. Wankus says that about 30% of the listeners have paid for memberships and are watching the live video and that 70% are just listening to the free radio feed. So if there are only 900 people listening to the show you are appearing on less than 300 people are seeing your naked breasts.

Personally, I found that I was bringing more people to KSEX from my ADT participation, my website, and my Yahoo Group than KSEX was bringing back to my website or to my Yahoo Group.

I loved doing my show because I had a chance to connect with the people that were loyal to me as porn fans, not because I was getting great promotion . Every single bit of promotion I got from my KSEX show came because I religiously press released to all the adult sites almost every single week. If you don t religiously promote yourself, your KSEX show will be one with a few hundred listening and you won t end up with an effective promotion.

I did my show for the Silent Jays, the bono-Ones, the Skronkers, the Harri Patels, the Firechases, the Young Burts &. the people that showed up every single week and the people that then on their own would promote me in other arenas. I will miss hanging with those people every Wednesday night a lot but, I will make up for it in my forum, the ADT forum, and the ADT chat Wednesday night.

I also did my show so I could give back (even if it was only in a little way) to the directors and companies that booked me for movies and promoted my name. If I could talk about a director s movie or a company and that company just got 1 extra order than I had done something.

The reason I felt great about my guests appearing on my show? Because I sent out press releases to all the adult websites which included my girls pics, website links, etc. I averaged over 10,000 reads on my own website of each KSEX show (with the top ones being read over 25,000 times!). I knew that my girls were getting website hits.

Here is what you don t know about appearing on KSEX:

KSEX makes money by charging advertisers money to advertise and by members joining its site. Fair enough, but, there are also other arrangements I found out about that made me very uneasy &

We had photographers that kept showing up to our show uninvited by us and taking hundreds of photos of our girls in action. At first we thought that they were taking pictures for KSEX, but then none of those pics ever showed up on KSEX. What we found out was that those photographers sell those photos to magazines like Oui, Cheri, etc. They are making money by taking pictures of the girls without paying the girls. Every other photographer has to book a girl for a photo shoot and pay her rate to submit her pictures to magazines but, not at KSEX.

KSEX also is selling their content. According to Wankus, KSEX itself doesn t make any money. It has lost money all 4 years it has been in business. According to Wankus, it is the KSEX content company that keeps it in business. I don t know what the content company sells. I do know that the KSEX shows right now are airing on Asian satellite. KSEX invested in a new T-1 to get higher quality streaming to allow that deal to go through and hope it will be very profitable so they can invest in better equipment, higher pay for staff, etc. Someone (are you reading this L-ke F-ord this one is made for you) should investigate exactly how many places KSEX content is showing up.

If you are a porn star considering appearing on KSEX, you should know the following:

a) your audience reach will be between a couple hundred and approximately 1,500 people depending on the show and the night;
b) if the photographers are shooting your pictures, they will be sold to adult magazines and you will not be reimbursed (apparently the KSEX appearance model release is all the photographer needs to sell them);
c) your footage may be sold to everyone from satellite companies to websites without your being reimbursed.

If reaching a couple hundred people is worth that trade of your naked body and your sex acts, then by all means do it. If you are a little taken aback by how KSEX uses your appearance without telling you then don t go on a KSEX show.

These are all things that we weren t told even when we started doing our show. These are things that we found out as time went on.

If KSEX was just a true radio station like the Howard Stern show we would have no problem with the trade of free content for air promotion. I didn t get paid for my appearance on the Howard Stern show (although I did win $10,000!), but I knew that 8.5 million people listened to it. I knew that the Stern show was NOT selling my photos and video footage to magazines and satellite companies around the world. It was honest radio. There is a lot KSEX won t tell you about how they intend to make money off you.

Now & they think they can profit off your brand name and naked body in regular porn DVD s without paying you. Want to help stop that?

KSEXGames
Wankus replied: adultdvdempire [sic] and ksex [sic] merged together to make a fun event that brings a lot of attention to the movie companies, talent and more. The movie companies are asked to submit their rosters and if they decide to pay their girls, that s up to them. The VOD and possible DVD from the footage shoot at this event will be split with ADE and ksex [sic] and will hopefully cover the large expense we paid to make it a hot event. If it does do well and got to DVD, the movie companies will be able to buy the production wholesale and sell it for their own profits.

I am not sure if you will be able to keep up with Wankus s new porn philosophy here, Jules. I will try to translate for you. *smile*

Wankus is saying that making a for-profit porn DVD is just a fun event . Maybe in the future, you could call your movies fun events and not have to pay the girls. I mean, if she has an orgasm - why should she get paid! She is having fun! And, her name is on the box so she is getting great promotion . Hell & I think the whole porn industry is wrong and Wankus & KSEX is right! NO MORE PAYING GIRLS! If they have fun at the shoot and they get promotion , you don t have to pay them!!!! New porn paradigm thanks to Wankus & KSEX!!! Oh, but, make sure you make the filming of your movie a hot event that way the profits can cover your expenses in making it one.

Second, Jules, Wankus is saying that the movie companies who participated in the event and who were RESPONSIBLE to pay the talent can buy the movie at wholesale and sell it for a profit. So & the company who bore the expense of the movie should still have to buy it? I see & I guess, Jules in the new porn paradigm if you pay to shoot a movie you still have to buy it from Evil Angel at wholesale to be able to sell it at retail. That sounds fair to me. Of course, I am ignoring that movie companies don t sell movies at retail they sell them at WHOLESALE to the 5 major distributors who sell them to the online and the brick and mortar stores who sell them at retail, but let s not confuse facts with smoke screens! Let s ignore Javier C s comment that all 5 movie companies sell to the same exact distributors. Let s ignore that the movie companies apparently were responsible to pay the talent. Let s just focus on the new way of doing business in porn valley you pay for the movie and then pay KSEX a wholesale rate to sell the movie to the same distributors everyone else is.

KSEX DVD S
Wankus replies: The girls get paid their rate to perform in them .

I love how he confidently ignores that the KSEX Games IS A PORN DVD!!! The first project KSEX shot on their own was Sexual Frequency . Despite an A-List cast, that movie has still not been released. It was scheduled for release several months ago. According to Wankus, when he saw the finished project he was very unhappy with it. I don t know if they are still re-working it or if has been thrown in the garbage. I do know Wankus has stopped replying to questions on the KSEX forums asking about it.

Bottom line the KSEX Games IS a porn DVD and Wankus and KSEX did NOT pay the talent in the movie. And, unless public pressure is brought on Wankus & KSEX, they will continue to use the 80 s porn line on girls do it for the promotion, baby . Again, Wankus & KSEX are already planning the Tahoe Winter Games. Can you write them and tell them you will NOT support them unless they pay the girls?

SO WHY DID WANKUS FIRE SELENA SILVER FROM KSEX?

Wednesday, August 4th, Kent and Wankus were talking before our 6pm show. Right before the show began, Wankus made some direct comments about the KSEX games that Kent unwillingly had to respond to. We had planned on having a private and professional conversation with Wankus about our feelings about the Games. We fully intended on still being a part of the KSEX family; we just wanted to help Wankus see the difference between doing radio and making porn movies and hoped to see him do the right thing.

Wankus caught that something was wrong from Kent s comments, and said well, this may be a bad time to bring this up but, all KSEX hosts are required to spend 5 minutes on their show promoting the KSEX Games .

That in itself is interesting. If KSEX hosts are employees, KSEX has the right to require them to do specific things. If KSEX hosts are independent contractors, KSEX does NOT have the right to require them to do specific things. Obviously, KSEX takes the position that KSEX hosts are not employees otherwise, they would be open to a wrongful termination suit, right? Let s ignore that for a moment.

We did our show without promoting an event we believed exploited my fellow porn stars.

Wankus wrote us an email during the course of our show, which he gave us a print copy to read afterwards. That email was not a harsh or bad email. We didn t react to it badly. But, it was more of the lies &. He wrote us another email at midnight that night which we did take issue with. In it he berated us for not promoting the KSEX Games telling us that whether you like it or not, you have to do it. It still wasn t a relationship breaking email. He was still calling us friends and saying we were important to him (even though he had directly lied to us about the games so he didn t have to pay me).

But, then things began to go downhill &we replied via email on Thursday, August 5 and told him what we thought about the approach KSEX was taking. We didn t know at that point if they were just inexperienced and didn t know that making a porn DVD was different from doing a KSEX show or if they were people who didn t give a f-ck about the female talent and were happy to exploit them. Wankus reply answered that question.

We said in our email that KSEX needed to pay the girls. We told Wankus that we would not promote the KSEX Games on our show if he did not pay the girls. We told Wankus that if he released the DVD without paying the girls, we would consider campaigning against people buying the DVD or the VOD.

Wankus reply the next day on Friday, August 6 was mean, childish, and dogmatic. We knew at that point he had no intention on paying girls and wasn t going to change. We also started seeing the Wankus that so many people had warned us about.

After this email, we had no desire to do any more KSEX shows. He had so manipulated and betrayed our friendship by lying to us and then by treating us like such sh-t that we just wanted out. But, then I read on ADT a post by Silent Jay promoting my next KSEX show and a couple of posts on my Yahoo Group about it and some more comments in my KSEX forum and I just started crying. I so didn t ever want to go back to KSEX, but I had built a family with porn fans that was bigger than just me. I had promoted a show and I was about to break my promise with my fans. I emailed Wankus and told him we were still doing the show.

He wanted to get together and talk, but the only time he had (a 30 minute slot before he flew to Miami) didn t work for us. We agreed to talk when he got back.

We did our August 11th show and never mentioned or hinted at the problem we had with KSEX. I had done my August 4th SelenaSilver.com monthly chat and never hinted at it. We were handling this professionally (even as Wankus emails became more childish). I guess our August 11th show must have been good the emails I got from listeners said that it was the replay they used on August 18th the day I was fired by Wankus & KSEX.

On August 18th my birthday at 12:24pm PST we received an email from Wankus stating that they were terminating the Wednesday night, 6:00pm show, The Inside View, effective immediately. If you have guests scheduled for your show tonight, please cancel them. - Wankus Email #1 (August 18, 2004)

(Over the next 5 ½ hours before the show began, we scrambled to cancel the 12 guests Kent had booked for my birthday show that very day.)

Wankus never called us on the phone to discuss this.

Wankus never met with us face to face to discuss this.

He traded a couple emails with us and then fired us.

He fired us - both people he called his friends AND his top rated show after his - because he made a porn movie without paying the female talent and we called him on that and said he should.

There is nothing more to it. And, there is nothing less to it.

I leave you to make your own conclusions about Wankus and KSEX from that.

You know what is really sad? If Wankus had been at all remorseful in his emails back and had hinted at a solution we would still be on KSEX, I would not be writing this, and the girls would probably end up with something positive. It was his responses alone that led to this impossible to repair situation.

WHAT SHOULD YOU DO ABOUT KSEX?

I Selena Silver am calling for a boycott of KSEX and its associated products.

Everyone makes mistakes, and even though I am sure that Wankus & KSEX won t change on their own I am willing to let public pressure change them. If they a) apologize, b) make sure all the girls in the DVD were paid, c) disclose all their money making schemes (like selling the girls pictures from the show for profit to magazines) so girls know up front what they are getting into, and d) always pay the girls in the future when they make porn movies we should let them back into the porn fan world if you as porn fans want to let them back.

But, until then, I am asking that you do the following:

1. Do not buy the KSEX Games VOD or DVD if you do, you are stating that you do not care if girls are exploited in this industry.
2. Do not join the KSEXradio.com membership site and/or cancel your membership to KSEXradio.com if you have one if you are a member of that site, you are supporting the people that made the KSEX Games and you are telling them directly that you don t care if they exploit the talent in this industry.
3. Do not listen to the free broadcast of KSEX they make most of their money from their advertisers. If you listen even for free you are logged as a listener that they base their advertising rates on. You can t listen or you are directly helping them.
4. If you are an advertiser of KSEX immediately cancel your advertising. I am sure you don t want to be known as a supporter of a company that exploits young girls and I am hoping you are going to get a lot of emails from fans telling you that they will not buy your products if you continue advertising with KSEX. How much business are you really getting from them anyway?
5. Write to all KSEX advertisers (I will be adding a list shortly to this post) and tell them you will never buy their products as long as they advertise on KSEX. Then BUY products from anyone who cancels their advertising. Seriously. Report back in this thread when you have done so.
6. Write to AdultDVDEmpire.com people who are probably blameless in this and encourage them strongly to put pressure on KSEX to do the right thing and pay the girls they are trying to make money from.
7. Write to Wankus (wankus@ksexradio.com) and Chris and Allison the real owners of KSEX (chris@ksexradio.com & allison@ksexcash.com ) and tell them what you REALLY THINK about how they treating porn girls and the actions you are taking.
8. Write to the 5 companies involved Private, Wicked, DVSX, Red Light District, and Adam & Eve - tell them what you think about the KSEX Games and ask them to put pressure on Wankus & KSEX.
9. Write to every single adult and mainstream news website and agency that you can find; post on every adult and mainstream message board that you can find. Build an overwhelming awareness of KSEX s intention to exploit young naked girls for their own profit.
10. Buy a Jules Jordan DVD. Jules was the only industry person that stood up and questioned Wankus about what KSEX was doing (and that made Wankus really, really mad!). Reward the people who stand up for what is right. Jules stood up for what? Reward him by buying a Jules Jordan DVD ASAP and email him and tell him you did just because of what he did.

ABOVE ALL DON T JUST READ THIS THREAD AND MOVE ONE. RESPOND. REPLY. ADD YOUR THOUGHTS. REPLY HERE. REPLY ON THE KSEX FORUM. TELL PEOPLE WHAT YOU THINK. TAKE A STAND.

MY MONEY WHERE MY MOUTH IS

I will personally send a FREE porn DVD to every single person (in the United States) who can prove that they cancelled a KSEXradio.com membership. I will send a FREE porn DVD to anyone outside of the United States who can prove they cancelled a KSEXradio.com membership if they will pay shipping on the DVD.

-TO The Fans

You may never listen to KSEX then this won t be hard for you. You might be addicted to KSEX - then this will. But, if you listen to KSEX you support people who exploit female porn stars. If you stop listening and are vocal to them about your thoughts & they will change. And, when they change you can go back to listening. Come on!!! Take a stand for the female talent in this business. Without them there is no porn. Do NOT listen and email them to tell them what you think about them.

-To The Porn Stars & Directors

Think before you blindly appear on KSEX. Know upfront that only 100-2000 people (MAX) are listening. Know upfront your pictures might be sold to adult magazines, your video to porn sites around the world; for sure your video can be archived in the KSEX membership site to make them money over and over and over &. Know upfront that this is a company that made a porn DVD and refused to pay the female talent in it. Know that they lied to talent (me!) to appear. Know that they are not remorseful and are instead planning on doing it again (Wankus is already promoting the Winter Games ). Cancel your scheduled appearances. Tell Wankus you will not appear on his KSEX and make him money until he pays the girls whose naked bodies he exploited in his porn DVD The KSEX Games to line his own pockets with cash.

-To the Porn Companies

Know that KSEX is your competitor. They are not only trying to sign up porn website customers to their site, they are taking dollars away from your pockets. People spend their money at KSEX instead of on your DVD s. Now they are making DVD s too! DVD s that will directly compete with yours except they aren t paying the talent. Is reaching 500 people on their show (mostly their loyal fans anyway!) worth helping give content to a company that is in direct competition with you?

-To the KSEX Advertisers

Cancel. You are financially supporting a company that is exploiting the female talent in this business. Is that what you want to be known for? What is the real return you are getting from KSEX? I have personally heard Wankus making fun of advertisers who call him saying I am not seeing a return! . He laughed to me as he related how he told them it is radio you don t see an immediate return; it is brand awareness over time . Are you making more from direct sales from KSEX advertising than you are spending? Cancel. Demand your money back. Then press release on ADT and every adult site that you canceled your advertising to take a stand against a company that refused to pay its talent. The good porn fans around the world will respond and drive business too you. Read the comments that come after my post in this thread carefully.

-A Special Message to ADT ers.

Make ADT an unfriendly place for a KSEX poster. ADT has long been a place where porn directors, studios, and stars can come because they are respected here. They are treated right here. They are safe here.

Don t let ADT become a place where people who are known to exploit female talent are welcome. YOU own this place. I trust you to use your judgment and your power they way I KNOW you will.

I love this place &

-To KSEX Hosts

I know most of you; I love many of you. This isn't to hurt you; this is too help you. Maybe YOU need to help the female talent in this business too.

If you are currently running a show on KSEX, I would ask that you suspend your show until KSEX has made it right to the females it exploited in the KSEX Games. Tell Wankus you will not do your show again until this is resolved.

If enough people stand up for what is right - right triumps over wrong.

God, I love many of you...

MY APOLOGISE FOR HOW LONG IT TOOK FOR ME TO REPLY TO THIS

I read many emails and some posts on the KSEX forum, ADT, my Yahoo Group, and my SelenaSilver.com forum asking for the truth about what happened to my show. I am sorry I couldn t post earlier. I was on vacation for 2 weeks (my family was here from Australia) and I wasn t able to post. It truly was bad timing.

I thank you from the bottom of my heart for your support. I appreciate you, I value you, I love you. Without porn fans there are no porn stars.

I didn t want to leave you hanging. I would never have stopped my show without telling you. Wankus didn t allow me to say goodbye.

The first fight we ever had with Wankus was about an issue very related to this. We had promoted for a couple of weeks our April 14 show it was supposed to be Inside a Porn Shoot . Victoria Givens was the guest and we were going to shoot a girl/girl scene live on the air. That was the week the HIV crisis broke and we couldn t in good conscious do a porn shoot that week! We post-poned our show until May 19. We told our fans what we were doing up front and instead did a show about HIV and the porn industry.

We got a VERY stern (okay & very mean) email from Wankus ordering us to never ever tell fans again what we didn t have. He got quite childish in that exchange. (That should have been our first clue!)

We don t agree with him at all. We think honesty is the best policy. He thinks if you promote something all week to fans and you know it isn t going to happen that you shouldn t tell them. Get them to tune in anyway they might stay if you are interesting, he says. If you tell them that you don t have what you promised them, they might not come. Wankus, we think you should tell fans the truth. Don t lie to them just because you are desperate and afraid they won t tune in. Trust them more and don t insult their intelligence like that.

I got an email from a listener who said that HDalhmer posted in the KSEX Forum during the August 18th replay show the one I promoted as my B-Day show and asked why was it a replay? Why were all the stickies gone in my forum? I was told that Wankus just DELETED that post.

Wankus lies to fans like he lies to porn girls.

He said in the other thread that there are no good bye shows on radio . What a load of sh-t. It you did a really well promoted good bye show, your ratings go through the roof. Why are the highest rated shows on TV shows always the all-time finales??? All mainstream radio & TV shows promote the last show. They all say good-bye. Wankus doesn t like good-bye shows because he never says good-bye without bitterness and anger.

I received several emails from Europeans who said they stayed up until the wee hours of the morning to hear my August 18th B-Day show and were quite upset it was a replay instead. For that, I am truly sorry it wasn t my choice.

I am truly sorry I never got to say goodbye to you. Thank you for supporting me. Thank you for listening every week.

And, thank you in advance for the action I know you will take now.

Sincerely,

Selena Silver

P.S. THE GIRLS OF THE KSEX GAMES

Please support the following girls who were taken advantage of by KSEX they weren t paid for their appearance in the porn DVD made by KSEX (except for the PRIVATE team and probably the WICKED team). You can do that by a) joining their website, b) buying DVD s starring them, and c) booking them if you are a porn director/studio.

 Rene Pornero
 Aria
 Gauge
 Gen Pedova
 Selena Silver
 Alana Evans
 Kitty
 Victoria Givens
 Daisy Marie
 Anita Blue
 Brittney Skye
 Kira Eggers
 Chrissy Taylor
 Victoria Sin
 Tianna Lynn
 Sativa Rose
 Rayveness
 Ashley Haze
 Jessica Drake - Wicked
 Kaylani Lei - Wicked
 Julia Ann - Wicked
 Cytheria - Wicked
 Olivia O Lovely - Wicked
 Katja Kassin - Paid
 Ariana Jolle - Paid
 Ashley Long Paid
 Avy Scott Paid
 Layla Jade Paid
 Tyla Wynn Paid

Gonzo: Thanks AVN For Selling Off My Information

Gonzo writes on Oprano.com:

Just got a call from Girls Gone Wild.....called me gonzo and was to my new business Vonage line which I purposely put on my registration information at Internext. Ive suspected them of selling off my information after trade shows for a long time.

Dude wanted me to answer 30 questions so he could send me 2 FREE DVDs of Girls gone Wild. The questions were to prequalify you for recurring billing to get more of the videos on a monthy recur. When I pushed him as to why he wanted my credit card information he asked me didnt I want some free porn?

Of course when I told him I wasnt going to give him the CC #'s so then he wanted checking information. I told him nice cascading billing and I wasnt giving him any information because the videos were for free.

Of course he wanted to say that the information was used strictly just to verify my age. I pressed him and said so I will never be billed and never be preshipped a video? He said no.

So I told him I needed to ask him a few questions... 1. Whats your full name? 2. Whats the name of the business your working for? 3. Whats your street address?

This got me a long conversation with the supervisor who finally told me that the numbers and names come from an outsourced solution.

So thanks AVN. Now I get unsolicited phone calls because once again you prove that you have NONE of the best interests of webmasters in mind when you throw your conventions. I paid you $150 for a pass and you sold off my personal information.

Nice move so if your an attendee or an exhibitor guess what? Your more revenue for the greedy fu---s at AVN. Congradulations... you are now my new hobby!

I have suspected this a long time. I put down my magic Vonage number that gives me free long distance...Its not listed anywhere on anything I get. But the cincher is when the weasel asked for GonZo.

Lee writes:

The Mandalay Bay itself is holding 3 conventions of its own at the same time as Internext, this is what Gary and I were told by their catering people. With this comes the fact they simply do not have enough room for hospitality suites to spread between all three shows. We have been told we have a hospitality suite reservation but alas, that is only true if AVN manage to get back to us in time on Monday once they have had their meeting about the collosal f-ckup they made by moving the venue. One way or another though, we will be having our event in Vegas whether it is 'sanctioned' by AVN or not. The politics and bullsh-t surrounding something as simple as holding an invite only meal for 100 people each day of the show just astounds me.

Webmasters Need To Learn How To Dress

Brad Shaw writes on JBM: "Looking through JFK's photos. Guy sitting at Epoch / Paycom dinner in a wifebeater [talking to Joan Irvine]. Pure Class. At least he got an invitation though. Ours must have been lost in the mail, again."

The huge guy Marty in the wifebeater is a friend of adultlounge.com and owns adultcheck.com.

Marty replies on JBM:

i have been watching this thread for awhile and i decided that it was time to post. i have been in the adult industry since 1994 and i never post on these boards. when you touch a soft spot, you ask for it brad shaw. the soft spot is my tank top. i wear my tanktop everywhere. its my trademark. i've got 40 of them, all black. now if you really would like to know the story, i was dragged into this dinner minutes before, by my good friend raffi at adultlounge.com who actually is responsible for getting me into this business, this explains why i didnt have time to go back and change into something more appropriate.i would like to thank chris mallick from paycom for having me at the last minute even though i was not invited, which is the explanation for the way i was dressed. It was a great dinner. i have learned one thing about life, that is, people are very judgemental. i was dressed in my usual attire because that is the way that i filter out judgemental shallow people, not to mention, i love comfort because i get more done that way. if its my appearance that you are concerned about, thats one thing, but if you would like me to make you more money in adult, just take a look at what i built for for a company called New Realities Technologies, Inc. i also wanted to say "thank you" to the people who back me up on this board, such as WEGCorey, J$tyle$, triumph, and anyone else who knows that its not how you look, its who you are inside.

i commend you brad shaw, noone has ever got me on the boards. To be honest with you noone at the dinner seemed to mind. for those of you who i did offend, i dressed up for you now. this is for you, and cheers!

and for you brad shaw, i dressed up real special for you