NL- I value Mariah’s opinion and thank her for sharing it with us.
OP/ED by Mariah Milano
I don’t look like such a stupid hater and back stabber lately do I? I spoke out on the dangers of disease exposure from fucking for money off camera and now imagine how many men are now taking Syphilis home to their wives along with the herpes and warts and whatever else.
I know I know, you’ll say that escorts demand condoms and none of them bend their rules for more money and that they are all such responsible accountable adults. Okay, and I have some oceanfront land I’ll sell ya….
I get emails daily, sometimes several, that solicit sexual encounters and they tell me they are tested and have gotten services from other porn girls that I can verify, and they go on to list the names of said girls. They also tell me that since they are tested, that they would like bareback sex which they have had with other adult stars. Some of these emails I read and just shake my head at the absurdity of the naive frame of mind all of these people have. There is Herpes as well as Herpes of the throat, anal and genital warts and now Syphilis that is not uncommon on porn girls, none of which is required to be tested for. These guys email with such confidence that I too escort simply because all of the others that they contact indeed do escort.
So now here we are, with porn companies being shut down because of a Syphilis outbreak. Yeah I heard it’s Marcus who I have known since 1998 and worked with many times back then. I like him but I cannot feel bad for him. I can’t have sympathy for people who create their own doom in such reckless ways.
I haven’t shot a scene since last December and am officially done. The industry is an embarrassment and filthy and out of control. Everyone bitches but no one does anything. There are a handful of porn stars left, the rest are now escorts who shoot some movies on the side. I’m not impressed and anyone who says I’m just hating needs to step back and look at the big picture. Undocumented and unprotected sex is going on in hotels between total strangers, and then those same people are showing up on porn sets the next morning and exposing everyone else to who knows what. There are 29 days between tests and we all know what can happen in that period of time.
What is the difference from a porn girl getting fucked bareback in a hotel and going to set the next day and a pilot who drinks all night and shows up to fly a plane full of passengers cross country first thing in the morning? When reckless behavior affects more than the person bahving recklessly, it’s time to step in and demand changes. It was done with cross over performers, so why not with prostitutes actively working on porn sets. They need to stop worrying so much about condoms and worry more about this.
I know someone who went to NYC and spent a week there turning tricks and hardly left the room. She had placed an ad on several of the NYC escort sites as well as signed with an agency so she was booked solid. Some days she said she had 10 clients!! IN ONE DAY!!!! Same goes for the porn stars who have been in Europe recently. What do you think that was for? Please don’t tell me they went there to shoot because the rates are a fraction of what they are here. The testing is nearly non-existent and the potential for US porn girls to escort in Europe is very big. I get emails from people living in Europe telling me they have had sessions with US porn stars there as well. I have been contacted by several of the elite agencies who have celebrities and politicians as clients and charge their clients tens of thousands of dollars for an experience with a well-known porn star require the girls NOT use condoms. Now, please tell me how this isn’t affecting the health of the people working in the industry who aren’t escorting?
I know that everyone has different opinions of what type of people do porn. The brutalscrooge guy is just angry and bitter but he’s always here posting his opinions so he must not hate porn as much as it seems. But he is right in one aspect, no one is standing and demanding something be done.
So you can think of me as a traitor for speaking up, but I see it differently. If you want to be a whore, fine with me. Go be the best whore you can be. Go be a street whore selling your ass for crack. I don’t give a shit. It should all be legal and government should stay out of it. But this is different. This is dangerous and reckless and helping to ruin the industry.
Damn. I’d have a lot of op/eds if every extended comment of mine got upgraded to one.
“What is the difference from a porn girl getting fucked bareback in a hotel and going to set the next day and a pilot who drinks all night and shows up to fly a plane full of passengers cross country first thing in the morning?”
Well the obvious answer is, the potential DEATH of a hundred-plus passengers; THAT’S the difference! And a very big difference it is.
That is an asinine comparison, Mariah, and as an intelligent person you should know that.
You’re certainly not the first or the only one in the business to denounce the practice of escorting “off the rez.” That sentiment is widespread today, but any actual enforcement of such a no-escorts policy is very difficult. Rumor an innuendo are all we have to go on for the most part.
I see nothing but a giant black cloud of doom on porn’s horizon…
Go to http://www.photogirls.net and look at the portfolio for London Escorts. It is full of porn stars both american and european (Aletta Ocean, Abbey Brooks, Aurora Snow, Candace Von, Brittany Andrews, Kayla Kleevage, Persia Monir, Diamond Foxxx, Houston, Sophia Lomeli, Briana Banks, Daphne Rosen, Devon Michaels, McKenzie Pierce, Eva Notty, Cathy Heaven, Audrey Bitoni, Jaylene Rio, Jordan Kingsley, Karen Kougar, Alanah Rae, Naomi Banxxx, Cindy Dollar, Austin Taylor, Sea J Saw, Shay Fox, Bridgette B, Richelle Ryan, Sienna West, Mckenzie Lee, Sarah Jay, Daisy Marie, Sophie Dee and Carmella Bing are just SOME of the girls there you can hire).
Eva Notty charges 500 an hour up to 3500 for overnight. I’m assuming this is euros. Of course we all know that some bloke is going to spend 3500 euros to spend the night with Eva to play Scrabble or Risk.
Third Axis,
1) AIDS ranks third to tenth in the worlds leading causes of death, depending on the source cited. Syphilis and other sexually transmitted diseases rank in among the top fifty leading causes of death.
Less than 1,000 people a year, world-wide, succumb to death by plane crash. Globally, an exponentially greater number of people have died die due to sexually transmitted diseases than to plane crashes, since the beginning of the history of aviation. Somewhere in the world several people will die of a sexually transmitted disease by the time you finish reading this paragraph.
2) Regardless of the cause, death is bad–period–and its cause should never be minimized or trivialized. The point Mariah was making is: Illness and/or death is especially egregious when the cause of death is one that is as easily preventable by engaging in responsible behavior (condom usage, not drinking while driving, flying, etc.).
It’s amazing “AIDS” deaths aren’t much higher, considering the definition of it includes 29 old, unrelated diseases, each with previously existing specific causes, determined by presumptive diagnosis from tests which don’t claim to test for any virus, but for proteins or anti-bodies believed to but not known to be indicative of a virus (with a long list of known causes of false positive readings)
… This is such an obvious scam if u study it, but hey if u don’t do the homework then there is no scam, right. AHF has their ostrich head in sand “In denial?” Billboards all around their targeted urban areas but who’s really in
denial?
@Tyler Knight, your comparison, like Mariah’s, is just dumb. Sure the incidences of deaths by plane crash are far lower than that of death by STDs—so is death by lightning, or death by wild animal attacks; duh—but that takes into account such commonly known stats as the high rate of AIDS deaths in third world countries, etc. To equate a porn whore turning tricks with a drunken commercial pilot… really? You can’t be that simplistic to accept such a boneheaded analogy.
Mariah is comparing apples to dodo droppings. Comparing the decision to drink and drive a motor vehicle (with a much higher rate of innocent fatalities) to the decision of a whore to take a civilian’s naked sword in the ass and then go to work on a porn shoot the next day, is just as dumb. Get real.
Mariah asked, rhetorically, “What is the difference?”
I gave you a reasonable, logical answer.
Third Axis Says: “Mariah, and as an intelligent person you should know that.”
Ad hominem. There is no correlation between her intellect and whether or not she agrees with you.
Third Axis Says: “You can’t be that simplistic to accept such a boneheaded analogy.”
Ad hominem. Stick to the argument, please.
Third Axis Says: “To equate a porn whore turning tricks with a drunken commercial pilot… really?…Comparing the decision to drink and drive a motor vehicle (with a much higher rate of innocent fatalities) to the decision of a whore to take a civilian’s naked sword in the ass and then go to work on a porn shoot the next day, is just as dumb. Get real.”
Death is death. Whether it be a whore’s, her john’s, or the death of an “innocent” person. There is no reliable metric to determine the value of one human’s life in comparison to another’s. World history is filled with atrocities when “moral” people have called it wrong.
Third Axis Says: “…Well the obvious answer is, the potential DEATH of a hundred-plus passengers; THAT’S the difference! And a very big difference it is.”
False. Again, AIDS and Syphilis are deadly diseases. Transmitting those diseases incurs a risk of potential death, ipso facto.
Circling back to point: this is about preventable illness and death. By choosing to no longer shoot porn or hook without a condom, Mariah is choosing to remove the potential for bodily harm as a result of those activities from the equation. She no longer has a dog in the fight, career wise, other than to help others in the talent pool see that they have options in regards to their healths. I applaud her.
Too late to edit for continuation of thought:
The lack of empathy for a fellow human is mankind’s greatest amorality. Nobody, regardless of their station in life, deserves to die in a car accident or plane crash due to alcohol, or get sick and die a slow death by AIDS or Syphilis due to lack of protection. All of these are preventable.
Good night.
Wrong again, “Tyler,” despite all of your tiring verbiage (and Latin, puh-lease). Mariah was comparing—erroneously, as I still say—the theoretical actions of ONE individual to the theoretical actions of ONE other individual, and the cumulative effect of either/both.
How many people would theoretically DIE from the unprotected-sex-havin’ porn escort’s actions compared to the theoretical death toll from the drunken pilot’s actions? The answer is simple. The carelessness involved in either action is irrelevant in this argument, which is the one I posited.
Yes death is death, smart guy, whether it comes from a terrorist sarin gas attack or spontaneous human combustion, yet to use either as comparative is ludicrous. I wasn’t talking about Maria’s broader point, just about her single pointless comparison. But I applaud you, dude, for staying in school.
Many more people die from the flu (not swine flu-the regular flu) every year then syphilis n AIDS combined. My God! What should we all fucking do? Wear bags on our heads?
“I haven’t shot a scene since last December and am officially done. The industry is an embarrassment and filthy and out of control.”
This. Well said, Mariah.
Welcome Tyler Knight. I’m a big fan…
Tyler Knight, is it true that you have a degree in Philosophy?
“Many more people die from the flu (not swine flu-the regular flu) every year then syphilis n AIDS combined. My God! What should we all fucking do? Wear bags on our heads?”
But we don’t want people getting re-infected with these nasty STIs (and these diseases are nasty). Some strains of Gonorrhea is already growing resistant to antibiotics because it’s so common and people are getting re-infected….
Come one now, I wasn’t saying it’s the same level of danger. It’s simply the same level of recklnessness without regard to other people.
Now ask the chick who got Syph if she isn’t pissed. Who knows where it originated from and in what context. My point may have been to the extreme I will concede. However, the comparison is simply to point out that you gotta cry foul when someone’s actions affect the potential health of many others. I think that is a valid complaint and should be made.
I also think it would be so amazing if all of those actively shooting stood up and said “Look, I’m not working with guys who do gay films that aren’t tested and I’m not working with girls who engage in off-camera sex with unknowns.”
Can you imagine how small the industry would be? lol It wouldn’t exist. It’s fucking sad and I’m just happy I am out.
And Jeremy, what the fuck is it with you and denouncing AIDs as a potentially deadly disease? You are like a conspiracy lunatic on this subject. You need to relax man. watch a Yankee game or do a crossword and exercise that brain of yours. Something other than ranting on the myth of AIDs. 🙂
And those rates would be in pounds not euro, which has a higher value. 🙂
What do you think is the future of porn, Mariah?
With three comments in twenty-two minutes, origen is the new Jeremy.
I have no idea. But here’s a prediction: I think that with the piracy that is raping our profits and the love hate for porn stars with the mainstream media and diseases that the actual porn industry is going to once again shrink. Manwin will own nearly all of it and then they’ll become too big and the next round of religious idiots will take them down for one thing or another. Internet porn will become homemade again like it was in the 90s and mainstream porn will become too expensive to produce.
I wouldn’t mind some humility for some of these people who have stood by and allowed this to happen, and I absolutely include the fans in this. The fans who love porn and porn stars yet don’t pay for their porn. They steal it and share it, yet when high quality porn is no longer available, they will be the loudest people bitching.
But with HD video cameras being under $500 anyone can produce HD porn now and there are hundreds if not thousands of places they can distribute it to the masses. It will no longer be a career, it will be a hobby.
I am just happy that I did my thing and made my name and have my fans. I am very happy to be out of it. Look at the turn over of girls these days.
I want it to be clear, I don’t care if you escort. I swear to that. I just don’t think that actively shooting while you are escorting is right or fair to the other people you are swapping bodily fluids with.
“Many more people die from the flu (not swine flu-the regular flu) every year then syphilis n AIDS combined. My God! What should we all fucking do? Wear bags on our heads?”
The single best way to prevent influenza is to get the flu vaccine annually.
It’s actually true, as a controversial and disputed HIV advertisement once said, Mariah: “We all have AIDS”. Akin to what Bob Dylan once sang, “He who isn’t busy being born is busy dying”, we all aquire immune deficiency. It’s aka aging. I’ve already presented links to excellent videos, free to watch (unless time is too costly for you when American Idol is on) and other data, but if you want to do as Einstein said and be guilty of condemnation without investigation then you stand at the high precipice of ignorance. Unfortunately in our sick society which gets rich off of sickness, money is more powerful than truth. If you really have no idea where I’m coming from, regardless of whether or not you agree, then you’ve already confessed you don’t know what the fuck I’m talking about, thus are not qualified to pass judgement. In order to know what the fuck is what it is necessary to examine multiple sides. That’s what trials and juries and judges are based around; not a monopoly of dogma as is the case in our so called free society. Robert Gallo’s text books actually admit to his bullshit and he went through two scientific misconduct trials, but by that point, the AIDS mega-empire was already born and politics saved that piece of shit murdering scumbag for profit, who, if there is a hell, is definitely going there. Its a fascinating story but not if you don’t read about it.
Btw, I’m still waiting for that baseball 🙂
Third Axis’s, I’ll keep it simple. Your first argument went to quantity of death: it’s wrong to compare a plane crash because, in your words, hundreds of innocent people die. (As opposed to millions.)
You back away from that argument and tried the quality argument, by assigning a value judgement on whose life is worth more:
1) Most AIDS deaths are third world victims (as opposed to American lives), so those stats are invalid.
2) Innocent life as opposed to the life of a whores.
Both quantity and quality of life arguments are logical fallacies. A single life, anywhere in the world, lost to a preventable death is tragic.
Both are arguments are digressions from Mariah’s point: Taking accountability for one’s actions regarding preventable death–yours and others.
Actually Tyler, African deaths are the same old 3rd world diseases they’ve been dying from, based on presumptive diagnoses which include no tests at all (just looking at patients and deciding their malnutrition and dirty water caused diarrhea is an AIDS diarrhea), which are called AIDS by clinics which are then sent MONEY by the WHO when they declare these 3rd world diseases are AIDS. They’re also calling mining lung diseases AIDS, too, so the corporations aren’t liable for miner deaths. It’s a major $candal! AIDS in Afica resembles (is) 3rd world diseases and is spread equally amongst the sexes, where in the western world, AIDS is mostly male, gay, drug users (gay male drug users, actually) and their diseases are completely different but called the same based on, at best, antibody tests on Africans, but for Christ’s sake (if you believe in him), antibody response is high in people who are sick and dying from poor sanitation, lack of food and dirty water. THINK! If you really care about Africans RESEARCH THIS SHIT! PLEASE! There’s a reason the President of South Africa said the Western world’s assessment of AIDS causality and treatment is completely wrong! But like the arrogant military powers that be we go into other nations and tell their leaders “Fuck You, you don’t know what you’re talking about”, and fuck them all up, without having an open forum on the subject.
Third Axis, to your point:
All it takes is one infected person’s actions to impact the public at large well beyond the scope of the original event. We wouldn’t be having this conversion otherwise.
And, if you keep resorting to focusing on the merits of the person making the argument (intellect, education etc.) rather than their argument I will call you on it. If it bothers you, refrain from doing it.
Ad hominem is a pedestrian tactic common on the Internet, but ironically, it only serves to undercut the merit of your argument. Many people stop trading as soon as they see it. I’m doing you a favorby pointing it out.
Oh, by the way, where is Mr. Mucus these days? and why is he still on Jim South’s World Modeling website as still active?
Mariah; What are you going to go off and do?
Holy fuck, Tyler, you’ve read way too much into my comments. And it appears that you didn’t read my comments at all. Too educated for your own good, perhaps, so I’ll keep it simple for you.
Read my original response to Maria, where her question was “What is the difference?” I never qualified anything, compared the value of life, or placed any hidden Masonic anagrams within my wording. I simply stated that an escort spreading an STI—even under the worst-case scenario, HIV—would theoretically not have the same potential for DEATH as that of the drunken airline pilot, under the worst-case scenario of a fatal crash. That was the difference of which she asked. Simple. What can’t you seem to understand in that statement? Unless you want to throw out some Michael Crichton story scenario where the escort starts a butterfly-wing-ripple epidemic of AIDS that spreads far and wide; however, that doesn’t actually happen in the real world, Tyler, and least not in the modern one. And please, let’s not get into a long-winded discussion of the pathology of HIV-AIDS. I fully get Maria’s overall point, and I never disagreed with it. I certainly don’t require you to explain it to me.
To your points:
“You back away from that argument and tried the quality argument, by assigning a value judgement on whose life is worth more:”
I never “backed away from that argument.” I never [assigned] a value judgement on whose life is worth more.” You read that into my statements.
“1) Most AIDS deaths are third world victims (as opposed to American lives), so those stats are invalid.”
Huh? Where did say THAT? Read my post carefully; I did not say or even imply such a thing. I was comparing, as you did, the higher death rate from AIDS infection (which is in fact highest in third world populations) than that of airline crashes. I was agreeing with you. There was NEVER a value judgement made or implied by me, only you.
“2) Innocent life as opposed to the life of a whores.”
I never compared the two, or said that either had more “value.” I simply compared the two scenarios, the escort and the airline pilot, and the potentially dead individuals impacted by their actions. Everyone is “innocent” in either scenario. Again, you’re assigning meaning to my words.
“Both quantity and quality of life arguments are logical fallacies. A single life, anywhere in the world, lost to a preventable death is tragic.”
Agreed. But to my original point, one action can kill a lot more people than another action. Mariah made that apples-to-dodo droppings comparison, and I still hold that it was a dumb one. She even agrees that it was “extreme.”
Now this needlessly long discussion over semantics must come to an end, because I’ve sufficiently explained myself. And origen, you would be a fan of this porn-lovin’ “philosopher.” You two may now go into the private chat room.
I just last week signed a broadcast deal with a German Cable Network that will air my cooking and travel episodes from my new site http://dinnerwithapornstar.com As well a British cable network has agreed to do the same. I flew to DC and New York last week for meetings with a popular American network that is interested in producing a show with me as the host visiting the redlight districts of the world’s great cities. That isn’t set in stone yet but the discussion has begun and we will hopefully have that ironed out within the next month. I have been offered the backing to produce a pilot so I am weighing my options to see what is the best opportunity.
You guys are going way too crazy with the comparison I made. I admitted that I went to an extreme and it’s being taken out of context. I simply meant one person’s reckless behavior affecting the health of others. I think it’s a valid assessment, even though it isn’t death, all of these diseases affect your health and if someone got herpes or warts or Syphilis or HIV would be fucking stupid because someone couldn’t decide to be a whore or be a porn star rather than being both. Same goes for guys doing cross over shoots, but how do people not see this in the same light?
Actually, contracting herpes, which is manageable with treatment, or syphilis, which is curable with treatment, is a LOT different than death. I don’t see them in the same light.
The majority of single people I talk to about their sexual lifestyles, do not use condoms or get regular STI testing. That’s just the way it is. I believe most people feel that it’s an acceptable risk these days. It will take another major disease scare in this country to change that mind-set.
Third Axis says: “The majority of single people I talk to about their sexual lifestyles, do not use condoms or get regular STI testing. That’s just the way it is.”
This is what I find hilariously hypocritical.
Everyone seems to be condemning porn performers, wanting to pass laws and regulations to curb the “epidemics” they cause with their “behavior”, yet average joe fucks right and left not giving a single fuck about his, or everyone else’s, sexual safety.
I never said it’s the same. But come on now, you cannot just disregard having herpes as “no big deal” when it affects every person that they ever sleep with for the rest of their lives. I would also bet that if it were to be passed on to a married man who’s wife doesn’t have it, that guy might wish he were dead. It also requires lifetime medication, and you also think that is just “no big deal”? I certainly wouldn’t wish that on many people.
I have had more than one scare when I got that phone call from AIM telling me that I may had been exposed to gonorrhea and even twice for HIV in the Marc Wallace and Tony Montana episodes. Luckily I never contracted anything in all the scenes I shot. I am considered extremely lucky and very rare. I will tell you that when I was told I may have gonorrhea I felt dirty and embarrassed and it sucked.
So move on beyond my analogy and just use your fucking head and you can’t deny that someone being reckless can hurt many people who don’t deserve to be infected, no matter how curable or not, with sores and illnesses.
Jeezus, Mariah, are you and Tyler just not capable of reading?
You place “no big deal” in quotes, which is something I DID NOT SAY! Nope. Never said that. What I said: I don’t see “in the same light,” (which IS what YOU wrote!) a TREATABLE infection, with DEATH, (which is obviously UNTREATABLE), and you equating one with the other as it related to the careless actions of individuals. They DO NOT share the same level of severity—or finality—by any conceivable stretch of logic. Would you rather have a life-long yet treatable disease, or be stone dead? Come on. Give me herpes, HPV, and syphilis all together, please.
I never at any time in this stupid thread tried to make my simple initial comment out to mean more than it said. I have agreed already with your main premise. Are we clear? Now you can hopefully use your own fucking head and move beyond your own flawed analogy. This discussion is plainly retarded. Next time, think your analogies through more carefully, especially when you’re given an op-ed to state your thoughts. You can expect your readers to comment.
I wasn’t given an op-ed. I posted on a thread and Cindi turned into an op ed. I can read thanks. I simply pointed out that ANY OF THOSE SCENARIOS SHOULD NOT HAPPEN DUE TO THE RECKLESS BEHAVIORS OF OTHER PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!
Why should I or anyone else have to take medication forever because some hooker fucked a trick without condom? Fuck that. It isn’t death but it would be very horrible. I would think that having to face that I am infected for the rest of my life as pretty severe.
My analogy withdrawn and yet beaten into the ground.
NO ONE SHOULD HAVE TO PAY THE PRICE FOR OTHER PEOPLE’S CARELESS BEHAVIOR!
Third Axis said:
“Huh? Where did say THAT? Read my post carefully; I did not say or even imply such a thing. I was comparing, as you did, the higher death rate from AIDS infection (which is in fact highest in third world populations) than that of airline crashes. I was agreeing with you. There was NEVER a value judgement made or implied by me, only you.”
Incorrect.
“…but that takes into account such commonly known stats as the high rate of AIDS deaths in third world countries, etc.”
Third Axis, if this isn’t material to your argument, please explain why you make the distinction? Please find my post earlier than yours (post #7) that mentions any distinction of third-world AIDS cases. I defy you.
Third Axis Says:
“And origen, you would be a fan of this porn-lovin’ “philosopher.” You two may now go into the private chat room.”
The biggest enemy to whatever credibility your argument may have is you, Third Axis. It’s a sign of desperation, and nobody will take you seriously with statements like this. Please let us know when you are capable of staying on point with a solid argument, and pursuing it with clarity without resorting to this.
Mariah, the point of your analogy was understood and it communicated the sentiment of your message well. Even if, by playing the devil’s advocate, we call your analogy an exaggeration, who cares? Hyperbole is an attention-grabber used to make people think. Someone will read your words, they will resonate with them, and maybe even affect them to make a better decisions regarding their actions and lives. At the end of the day, that is what matters. Thank you for posting this op-ed.
origen, thank you for your kind words. It’s appreciated.
Tyler, you’re a newbie here. Earn some respect first, before you start acting like a smarmy douche bag fresh from his college debate class. I don’t need you to bestow credibility on any point I make. That point was crystal clear and unvarying. You implied meaning that I did not, it’s simple as that. Go fuck yourself for some credibility, you tiresome little twit.
How many ways can I say that I agree with you on that, Mariah? Have a glass of wine, and take a nice long soak…
For the sake of a completely different discussion—as I’m finished with our previous one, so save any further hair-splitting—the fact is, actions and decisions by others place us at risk every single day. Our “leaders” piss off foreign nations, which target us for terrorist acts, not to mention the astronomical death toll abroad and long-term health impacts here; our judges release dangerous criminals into our communities; corporations like Big Oil/Pharma/Tobacco place us at risk for illness and death through their products—and federal/state regulators allow it to occur. All of these risks are preventable, and impact millions of innocent people. The outrage over an STI outbreak pales in comparison.
I don’t really have any opinion on porn and comment only on threads related to prostitutes and prostitution. I only have a negative view of prostitutes because one had her pimp threaten my family.. For no good reason.
If we wanted to get rid of sickness we’d get rid of pollution instead of chasing phantom viruses, we wouldn’t be spraying chemtrails in the air, putting silcone in mcnuggets, appointing monsanto chairman to run the fda. What naive ignoramus thinks we’re really trying to make people well? There’s a lucrative death racket going on that serves an elitist agenda.
ok you have to see that you keep minimalizing this.
how about this: you go to your doctor’s office to get your flu shot, since after all the flu kills so many people. but the nurse who fills the syringes every morning did extacy the night before and is still fucked up and on a twisted whim takes a bunch of the used syringes from the bio box on the wall. the nurse filled 100 syringes with the actual flu shot, but now there are a dozen or so syringes with various illnesses in them. none that will likely kill you but might give yu a life long disease causing sores on your genitals and be highly contagious and require you to take medications forever. This would affect everyone who came to get their flu shots, who are not aware or deserving of this exposure to infection.
how fucked over and violated would YOU feel? I would bet you’d be on the phone to an attorney to sue them so fast it would make our heasds spin.
now tell me, how is THIS different?
Who argues over hyperbole? Who has time? Thank god a ‘reputable source mentioned escort agencies pressuring girls to do bareback. If it came from me it would be chalked up as a bitter accusation. Go figure.
I can be quite charming. I also cook some bomb ass top ramen and put my back into it when I’m gettin down, ladeeez. Get at me on twitter ♥
I have never done porn but I once got tested by my doctor for gonorrhea. I did not have it. When I asked about being tested for herpes, I was told by someone that it’s not tested for unless someone has symptoms. Some medical person said “what good is it for you to know if you don’t have symptoms.”
I wonder if the expense of testing for it is part of why I was discouraged about being tested? When you consider that the CDC says “approximately one out of five women 14 to 49 years of age” and “about one out of nine men 14 to 49 years of age)” has genital herpes simplex viruses type 2, I can understand why it’s assumed that most porn actors and actresses have it. For a Court TV’s website interview in 2001, Sharon Mitchell said “Herpes is always about 66%.”
yeah think how small the industry was back then…internet was still in it’s infancy as far as the industry was concerned and the same 5 or 6 guys were in every scene. Now think about it. People are shooting in Miami and Vegas and LA and all over. Porn girls are going to Europe and escorting where testing doesn’t exist and anal is mandatory for the most part. There is a huge pool of performers and they are all intermixing with testing only every 30 days the soup of bacteria in those vaginas is toxic!
No, Mariah, I’m not minimizing this. EVERY human being has a responsibility to act in the best interests of all. Unfortunately, that’s just not the way life is. People for the most part are good, kind, and thoughtful—at least that’s what I’d like to believe. But the rest are ignorant, selfish, and uncaring, so there will always be fucked-up incidences like those surrounding Mr. Marcus, TTS, and ATMLA. So now the excuses start flying and fingers pointing. Accountability is a bitch.
Now you can stop posting hypothetical scenarios like the one above. Could that happen? Sure. Did it happen? No; at least not to my knowlege. Does it happen with such frequency that it has become a serious problem? I’ll leave that research to you.
Mariah, that’s the main reason why I stepped away from the business, too. Continuously re-infecting someone I love with almost every porn-related affliction possible during the course of a decade-long career could no longer be rationalized.
In retrospect, I should have exited when I was first-generation exposed to HIV during the debacle of 2004. Telling someone you love that they may have been exposed to HIV because of your work, and watching them cry in fear is not fun, and saying to them, “But my scene partner had a clean test,” is of no comfort at all.
Tyler, what do you think would be the best way to drastically reduce STIs in the Industry? We already know that condoms provide incomplete protection and ruin the fantasy that the content is meant to provide.
Should performers be tested before EVERY scene, provided that their tests are paid for by some sort of escrow fund or Health Reimbursement Account? Should there be mandatory time intervals between scenes?
This shit reminds me of the Jaws movie. After it came out everyone was afraid to swim in oceans and even lakes.
Data from the WHO, itself, ranks the U.S. tied for 109th for death rates from STIs/STDs at 0.1 deaths out of 100,000 people.
The #1 country is Sierra Leone (70.5 deaths per 100,000 attributed to STIs/STDs), home of blood diamonds, civil war and 70% of the population below the poverty line. Sierra Leoneans collect most of their drinking water from polluted sources. Now do you think the reason for their high STI deaths has to do with stupid shit like lack of condoms and “safe sex” or the simple fact that the country’s people are dying from lack of clean water, poor sanitation, etc, which destroys their immune system?
i’m completely baffled on what word put my last comment on moderation (August 24th, 2012 at 1:21 p.-p.s. have you also noticed it’s always p.m. in lib-land?).
origen, nobody has found a perfect solution that checks all the boxes, but the best one is condoms.
@Tyler: Just wanted to let you know that someone posted your blog at XPT and it was an amazing read that I could not take my eyes off of, until I read it all.
Tyler, you’re asserting that a flimsy piece of latex, which is only 85% effective in preventing pregnancy, and which has a reported 25% failure rate on set, and which can cause micro-abrasions which make transmission easier, and which does not cover all the areas affected by STIs such as syphilis, herpes and HPV, is the “best” solution? Really?
You do know that one of the confirmed syphilis cases is a condom-only gay performer, right?
Why is Mr. Marcus, still on World Modeling website for male talent, Available?. What’s up with Mr. South keeping him up there? Buddies?
condom-Only gay performer has syphillis and he is a crossover? WTF?. What is happening here in this cesspool of porn valley? shit!
Jerkuliscious, thanks for reading. What is XPT?
Hello, Michael Whiteacre. Point well understood, and yes, I am.
Again, nobody has found the perfect solution, and often times the best solution is far from a perfect solution. As with many things other things in life…
For me, the only best and perfect solution was to abstain from sex outside of a monogamous relationship. Believe me, I fought that solution every step of the way for a decade while picking up countless diseases–both with and without condoms–while working in the adult industry.
Since I’m no longer an active member in the porn community, I don’t have a dog in the fight. As such, I really don’t care to recommend what’s better for active performers or the industry at large. I’m just not as noble as Mariah–people are lucky to have her speak up. But, let’s be frank: nobody cares what an ex-male talent has to say about their choices on this matter anyway.
While I certainly felt safer the scores of times I did use a condom for…Wicked, VIVID, or when whomever I was working with requested one…I was still aware that the veneer of safety was a latex-thin illusion, and all said, I was always acutely aware that my (and my fiance’s) absolute safety required monogamy. So I quit. No self-serving announcements, I just informed my agent at ATMLA of my decision and stopped answering the phone when directors called. It was the right choice for me.
Thanks for your candidness, Tyler, particularly your point of catching countless infections, aka “diseases” both with and without condoms. But, regarding what should be done about it… the fact that u were able to continue working suggests u didn’t suffer anything permanent. Sasha Grey also admitted she had anal warts, but then she said it went away and she continued working. And considering the prevalence of STIs in the general population, I’d say the solution is to let nature, your own immune system, and if necessary, a good but temporary dose of gut bombing antibiotics. The best solution is a strong immune system aided by a good diet n excercise, and not compromised by recreational and/or pharmaceutical drug abuse. The worst thing I witnessed n experienced in porn, besides malicious mental cases and sociopathic scumbags, jealous shit talkers and idiot outcasts, was the nasty staph infections which lasted a long time… and again no condom could protect from that, something, which at worst can kill.
I wasn’t even aware staph infections are common in porn.
More performers need to speak out about STIs. Working conditions are simply too nasty and unbearable.
Yeah right. They’ll speak up only once they’ve stepped out… maybe.
But remember, official stats say 90% of the general population “has” oral herpes. WTF r we gonna do to protect the remaining 10%?
And what is XPT? That’s a site created by Tony Malice, creator of
“Donkey punch” (which is where girls got fucked doggie anal and then puched hard in the side of the head). XPT society is full of Malice minions who likewise assail people in donkey punch fashion, who like Mr. Malice himself, would never come remotely close to speaking that way to those they attack in person. That’s y I coined the term “keyboard warrior” to describe them (yes, that term was invented by myself).
Seems like there are a shit load of mysogynistic folks that are behind the scenes making porn. Most everyone I talk to on porn sites hates scenes that abuse or humiliate women (donkey punch, facial abuse, Max Hardcore, meatholes, etc…) and yet they keep cranking them out.
Who actually enjoys watching this sick shit? Who the hell is buying this diarrhea?
The war between the sexes has religious origins, some interesting altertative history writers saying even extraterrestrial origins… intersting stuff on Thule society; Hitler, hollow Earth and humans once having been hermaprodites.
Jeremy??? WTF with that last comment… Try and stay on topic here my friend!
Mysogyny is related to the war between the sexes. I branched off the tree. Many porn afficionados are mysogynists… especially considering how many women will do it all, as long as there’s money involved.
Many people say they hate degrading scenes but they secretly like them. Also keep in mind what constitutes degradation or abuse on film varies from person to person.
Origen how old are you?
Well it goes to show that it’s not a myth that a majority of porn girls have horrible relationships with their fathers. If it weren’t true, people like Max and Frank Wank would have giant gaping holes where their heads used to be. What father would not physically destroy one of those losers when he found out that was being done to his baby girl and then sold in mass distribution worldwide?
They are all men who abuse and degrade women because physically they are weak and inferior and more than likely have been pussies their entire lives. It isn’t much different than the losers who post on forums with some anonymous screen name and say all the shit and make the threats and name call that in their real life they wouldn’t dare say to another living person. They are all basically cowards and self-loathing.
Origen is about 1,830 years old, born in Egypt in about 182 A.D
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…and he still hasn’t got laid yet
Just teasin ya
Well Jeremy, getting laid is a challenge when my penis has been in a glass jar since the days of Caracalla…
And Mr Marcus thinks HE fucked up!
That’s no excuse. You know that these days they have addadicktome surgeries, such as women who trans-gender into men.
A prosthetic dick is about as lame as the Paralympics. Why even bother…
(too harsh?)
You could have a boner doner. Any corpse who once signd an organ donor card could provide your potential new manhood. You should inquire w their widows or exes to find which willy may suit you.
Yep! There are alot of Pussies on this blog! You got that right Mariah.
Good one, Jeremy. “The Boner Donor” could be the sequel to “Frankenweiner.”
I kid the Paralympics…God bless those athletes…but I’m just saying what a lot of people think, Peter…