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Tanner Mayes Arrested For Drugs

NL-Well I’m hearing that Tanner has been arrested for possession of Meth. I saw the arrest record and it says drugs, but not what specific kind.  If anyone ever needed an intervention…. TANNER- PLEASE GET HELP!

Tanner has tweeted a few new pictures and some other interesting info. She wants to be a rap star and often tweets in rhyme. Her rap name is Courtney Glo

Her is the new bio she gave herself- All I want out of life is to be a Famous Dark Skinned Gangster Female Rapper. I’m not even trying to take anyone’s place. I’m more hood than the KKK. Get it?

"Miss Courtney Glo <~~~~~ Just Got out the cunty jail males. Aint nobody post my bail. did the time felt Like a snails. But i dont even believe in bail To bounce im bout the time them crim mins count. :- "

Tanner also tweets scary things about someone she calls her lawyer. This lawyer had emailed me to tell me Tanner was not using drugs, but was actually recovering from several car accidents. A reliable source tells me that the "lawyer" is Tanner’s drug doing partner.

Tanner Tweets-I think my lawyer is going to murder me, and the fact that I BELIEVE him makes me not want to TWEET about it, in case he sees… Spooky. XOX

Tanner mentions the lawyer trying to break down a door, and later talks about now being in a hotel. So I can surmise she moved away from the lawyer into a hotel. I’ve talked to some of Tanner’s friend and they say they have tried to help her, but she thinks this whole thing is funny and she doesn’t believe she has a problem.

Anyone have any suggestions as to how we can get Tanner to open her eyes before it is too late?

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144 Responses to “Tanner Mayes Arrested For Drugs”

  1. commonsense Says:

    She can be commited under california law under certain circumstances. I think a compelling argument can be made.
    do you have an e-mail for tanner

  2. AIPChristina Says:

    Unfortunately there is nothing you can do for someone like this. She has to want to help herself. Hopefully she’ll hit rock bottom and realize she needs help before she dies.

    An intervention could help but I have a feeling it will be a coin flip.

  3. Third Axis Says:

    Sorry, but I have zero sympathy for tweekers. They alone are accountable for their lives. Every bit of information anybody requires to know that this drug is certain death, is readily available. Meth mouth? Check. Psychosis? Check. A life of theft and/or hooking to obtain said drug? Check. The loss of family, friends, and anybody else who gives a shit? Check. Suicide, or death by the hand of other loser meth users? Check. End of game.

    Oh, forgot to mention, delusions of rap grandeur. Double check.
    Tanner is just standing on the tracks waiting for the inevitable train. Her choice.

  4. Karmafan Says:

    Third Axis is right on the money. This girl is in serious trouble and needs some sort of an intervention before its too late.

  5. Michael Whiteacre Says:

    I agree with Christina and Third Axis: Hard drugs are a really bad idea, kids, and as sad and horrible as this story is, you cannot force someone to get help — which is why I don’t see the benefit of compounding her problems by further publicizing them.

    As far as I can tell she’s not shooting; she probably can’t make it to a set. All this story does is draw attention to one person’s ongoing problems while helping foster stereotypes in media and stigma against adult performers. Thousands of current and former adult movie and online performers don’t tweet their self destruction, yet we see story after story about Tanner and Kacey Jordan.

    I understand that it’s “news”, and I sincerely hope she turns her life around, but this report just seems voyeuristic in the most uncomfortable sense, and it leaves a bad taste with me. It won’t do any good and may well do her harm by humiliating her.

  6. Larry Horse Says:

    Still would like to hear what C3X has to say about when he worked with her back in May.

  7. Sandy Bunz Says:

    I saw Tanner in Vegas one show not so long ago. What a cutie. Now her picture looks like the typical tweeker.

  8. origen Says:

    She such a beautiful girl. FUCK JM Productions and that lame ass video they made humiliating her. Fuck Will Ryder for using his position to get blowjobs in his car from this chick. Fuck all you enablers who are now washing your hands of this chick.

  9. Michael Whiteacre Says:

    @origen — With respect, for people to “wash their hands” of her, she would have had to have been in their hands in the first place.

    Tanner is and adult who has made bad choices. People who paid her to do a job are no more “enablers” than restaurant owners who pay cooks that use speed while working on the line in their kitchens.

    Does she need help? Apparently so, but she has to seek it for herself, and the only person responsible for (allegedly) putting a meth pipe in her mouth is Tanner.

    If she reached out to me for help, I would steer her toward the best resources I know — but I only met her twice, very briefly, at adult industry events.

  10. RobfromMarketing Says:

    Why are people making it out to be like she’s a victim? These are her bad decisions she’s making.

  11. jeremysteele11 Says:

    Reminds me of the Love/Hate song, “Why do you think they call it dope?”

  12. jeremysteele11 Says:

    She’s crying out for help but doesn’t realize it, thinking she needs none, and none is what she’ll get unless she wakes up. That shit makes your brain damaged and your soul hollow. There’s no reason to show off that look she’s got going on. Reminds me of Jenna J’s need to show herself off while she was doped up.

  13. origen Says:

    “Tanner is and adult who has made bad choices. People who paid her to do a job are no more “enablers” than restaurant owners who pay cooks that use speed while working on the line in their kitchens.”

    It’s not the same and you know it.

  14. origen Says:

    It simply isn’t the same. Frankly, I’m not interested in getting into an argument about virtue ethics and the adult industry in this section. This girl needs help and for people who know her to just sit back and do nothing is wrong. No one needs to be a savior but come on…

  15. Michael Whiteacre Says:

    @origen – It is the same. No one put a gun to her head. The first step to recovery is admitting that you have a problem — the problem, and the responsibility, is yours, not someone else’s.

    @Rob — Very sad but very true.

  16. origen Says:

    It is not the same. I will not argue with you here. This isn’t some washed up whore–this chick is the same fucking age as me!

  17. Michael Whiteacre Says:

    @origen — How do you know that “people who know her [are] just sit[ting] back and do[ing] nothing”? Altruists don’t send out press releases.

  18. Michael Whiteacre Says:

    It’s not a matter of age. People ruin their lives at every age — many far younger than Tanner — every single day.

    She has to want help. If you sent her money today, guess where it would go? She doesn’t think that she has any problem — that’s part of the delusion that drugs like this create.

  19. origen Says:

    I’m not talking about money. I said fuck the enablers, remember?

  20. RickMadrid Says:

    She loves that stuff! She is a LA tweaker!. Oh well, Over here on the East Coast and Partying! BBQ like no tomoorow and Fuck the power Companies! we’ll make out own electricity here in Plain Veiw NY. have a safe and Happy 4th! Smoking some good Humboldt County! and one for Tanner too!

  21. Third Axis Says:

    @origen, wake up to the real world.

    “Fuck the enablers.” OK, consider them fucked. What does that change? Does that make this girl more informed about her choices? Does it make her want to get high less? Does it make her less “proud” of being a junkie/rapper, and flashing her jacked-up face and drug paraphernalia on her fucking Facebook page, for fuck’s sake?! Will “fuck[ing] her enablers” make her less capable of finding shitty, low-grade dope just about anywhere in the free world? Lots of enablers to fuck out there on the streets, so good luck with that logic.

    How about this, origen: you seek her out, take her to your home, lock her in your basement and get her clean (not an easy process, and one that rarely sticks—meth addicts relapse over 70% of the time). Guaranteed the second you let her outside, she’ll be heading downtown to score. Quit your uninformed hand-wringing and leave detox/rehab to the professionals. But that ONLY works when the junkie actually packs her bag and goes there to get help.

  22. jeremysteele11 Says:

    What drugs have you overdosed on, Rick? I was born in Plainview, NY. That’s one word, not two. Is that the town you’re pretending to be in now for God knows what reason? I’m sure while you were obsessed with contacting me you must’ve looked that one up, as my profile likes to mention I’m from there. You’ve already embarrassed yourself countless times but keep coming back and repeating the same old shit.

  23. jeremysteele11 Says:

    Hopefully, Tanner will show other potential meth smokers how bad that shit is. If not, then knock yourself out. At least she’s too doped up to be fertile.

    And both success and failure is an enabler to a downward spiral. Some people hang around good people and still fuck themselves over, others hang around scumbags and do the same. Of course we all think of that piece of shit Bobbi Brown when we think of Whitney Houston but one has to take responsibility for their own actions, too.

  24. origen Says:

    @Third Axis. I’m not even talking about doing any of that shit. I’m talking about being a decent person. Someone you know is in need, you fucking do something. A word of a advice, a word to a friend, a number to a rehab clinic. Something other than asking “can you fuck and suck?”.

  25. Third Axis Says:

    Dude, what makes you think that nobody has tried to get her to help herself over the last two-three years that she’s been spiraling downward? I’ll bet dollars to doughnuts that her family and at least a couple of “real” friends have tried to speak sense to her. The fact is, lots of her fans are telling her to get clean, for what it’s worth. Personally, I want her to survive her stupid decisions, just like I want all junkies to drop the pipe and quit breaking into my fucking car!

    Why don’t you log into her Twitter feed and tell her what you think? Make a difference. But don’t expect to make her change.

  26. Will Ryder Says:

    Origin, I think you need to live some more years before you can understand life a little better. You sound like a little kid blaming others but I don’t blame you for your lack of experience. Sometimes a person can help somebody and sometimes they can’t and more often than not people do not want help. Tanner is a very intelligent girl that has made some remarkably bad choices but the choices have been hers. I have been in the same room with Tanner just twice in the past year with the last time back in March when she was to shoot a scene for Not the Three Stooges XXX. She decided at the studio to go home rather than shoot the movie. There was no explanation so I simply replaced her. Then she sent me a text and asked if she could be in Animal House XXX and I said sure show up which of course she didn’t. I was pretty sure she wouldn’t so I had already booked 21 other girls; a few with issues, many without and one with an inferiority complex. So go ahead and make a villain out of me. I feel for the girl contrary to what the conspiracy theory crowd thinks but blaming a blowjob albeit a very, very good blowjob for causing somebody to dive into the deep end of the pool is a bit of a stretch.

  27. Larry Horse Says:

    Will/Jeff, did she give you a blow job or not? Or did she give Jeff the blow job. How many of those 21 girls you booked for Animal House blew you? or you got cut rate?

  28. Sean Tompkins AKA TRPWL Says:

    while i cant go into specifics due to “off the record” shyt..This is but a small part of the Tanner Mayes story.. Sad world

  29. jeremysteele11 Says:

    Sheeeeeyt.

  30. Jerkuliscious Says:

    You can judge all you want, but which of you wouldn’t turn to hard drugs if you were ever naked in the same room as Porno Dan, much less have sex with the sleezy prick? This poor girl needs a shoulder to cry on and counseling, because no amount of drugs can erase those memories. They will only make you temporarily numb to it.

    Also, making the step up to smoking meth, is like making the step to mainlining smack, you are straight up throwing your life in the toilet. Sad, she was cute and quite fappable.

  31. Larry Horse Says:

    Porno Dan, Jim Lane, Johnny Thrust, Grip and Cram…porn could do without these asswipes. Bet they used her when she was using.

  32. origen Says:

    @ Micheal Whiteacre

    Comments like the one from Jerkuliscious are exactly why being in porn is not like being in any other field of work.

  33. Michael Whiteacre Says:

    @origen – Jerkuliscious is using this tread as an opportunity to make jokes and talk smack about Dan Leal. It’s Jerkuliscious’ jaundiced opinion — he wasn’t there. Neither were you, or I.

    Is there stigma around adult performers centered on people calling them whores and skanks? Yes, and I try to address that problem in all of my work — giving a positive voice to a vilified, disenfranchised group of people who are earning an honest day’s pay providing entertainment to millions of people who seek it.

    However, as in ANY group, there exist individuals with personal problems and demons. Some people can’t handle the spotlight. Some can’t even handle being expected to show up for work on time. Also, as Sean noted, you’re only hearing a small portion of this story.

    Even if a person “enabled her” or “made drugs available” to Tanner, or if other people’s attitudes toward porn stars drove her to find solace in a really stupid and destructive manner, at the end of the day it was still her choice to do it.

    If these stories are true I hope she reaches out for legitimate help in the form of treatment and addiction counseling.

  34. Jerkuliscious Says:

    I re read my comment, and I still don’t get where you guys feel I was making a joke.

    Origen: She is only in the position she is in because of her own poor decisions. Once we turn 18, we become responsible for ourselves and our actions. Just because, as that meltdown video displayed, she has the emotional maturity of a 5 year old, doesn’t make her a victim. As sad and cruel as it may be, this is Darwin at work. Obviously she doesn’t have the make up to function in the world we live in, not just the porn world. Whether it is something she was born lacking, or something in her environment that stunted her early on, she was obviously not prepared to be an adult and make adult decisions. I’m not clamoring to see a fiery demise, I just have no sympathy for junkies.

    I have seen too many friends enter the downward spiral of heavy drug use. Some passed on, some are still alive, living as a shell of their former selves. One thing that they all have in common, is that no one forced them to start using. No one forced them to make the progression from coke, to crack, to smack, to death or a long term pill addiction. You go on being a butt hurt fanboy, putting these broads up on an imaginary pedestal, and trying to figure out who to blame. The only person to blame is the one she sees in the mirror.

    P.S. What is it that makes chicks fall so hard and fast into addiction, compared to men? Is it the emotional rather than rational thought process or is it simply that possessing a vagina makes access to drugs that much easier? I’ve seen broads go from zero to crackhead in only a couple months, where most of the guys I know who took that progression have taken years.

  35. Larry Horse Says:

    Shelley ever talk about her “choice” to do it, re:addiction and porn? Who put the gun to her head? Oh wait it was Satan.

  36. jeremysteele11 Says:

    Note-worthy point, Jerko: Easy access vagina = easy access drugs. I’m surprised more women aren’t going to AA with all the fucking free drinks dudes trying to get laid have bought them.

    And if anything, man isn’t evolving, he’s de-evolving. What percentage of our brains do we use? Darwin himself actually said man is the only animal who doesn’t conform to his evolutionary theories.

  37. origen Says:

    “Even if a person “enabled her” or “made drugs available” to Tanner, or if other people’s attitudes toward porn stars drove her to find solace in a really stupid and destructive manner, at the end of the day it was still her choice to do it. ”

    Sound ethics do not place the responsibility for proper moral conduct solely on a single actor.

  38. origen Says:

    Jerk. You are a cynical misanthrope and are an example of poor moral reasoning. Sorry. I’m just tellin’ it like it is. I’m sure you’ll even agree..

  39. Jerkuliscious Says:

    Origen, you are as delusional as the tweeker you are hell bent on White Knighting.

    I am a realist. Reality tells me this broad was damaged and using drugs, before she got into porn. Porn’s only act as an enabler is providing her with income to use for better drugs.

    I have seen the damage addiction has done to friends and their families, and have no sympathy for them, only the people they hurt.

    I now see drugs as an easy way to cull the herd. Too bad they don’t work quicker, to ease everyone else’s pain.

  40. Michael Whiteacre Says:

    @Larry — Basically, yes: Shelley’s parents’ “neglect” CAUSED her to make bad decisions. Even though we now have documentary and graphic evidence that they did everything they could to help her for many years, even after she fucked up again and again.

    And, of course, she says that her parents asking her to leave home at age 18 (after she trashed their house, nearly burning it down, by throwing a party against their wishes while they were on vacation), caused “demonic spirits” to enter her and set her on the path to prostitution and porn — EVEN THOUGH she has already begun stripping illegally at age 17, using a fake ID.

    So, basically, all her problems and bad life decisions were caused by 1) her loving, forgiving family; 2) the Devil; and 3) the evil porn industry.

    Shelley was just a little angel who, as a child, talked to her invisible friend Mr. Jesus daily. Everything would’ve been fine IF ONLY she’d been able to get her way every day.

    (see The Devil and Shelley Lubben episodes 3 & 4)

    @origen — You write, “Sound ethics do not place the responsibility for proper moral conduct solely on a single actor.” I’m not talking about moral conduct, I’m talking about how a person’s rational desire is to act in his/her own best interest. Unfortunately, people don’t always act rationally, and many are incapable of sustained rational action. We call those latter people losers.

    If an individual is inordinately susceptible to destructive peer pressure, there is another logical and ethical argument to be made that such a person is defective and a threat to the species. I don’t mean to be cold, but you can’t stop stupid people from doing stupid things, and you can’t save everyone.

    Help is available for people in crisis. Those who possess, within themselves, the inner strength to survive, rise again, and prosper will do so. The rest will fade away. To quote Les Grossman, “That’s physics — it’s inevitable.”

  41. jeremysteele11 Says:

    What do you call a tweaker who likes to tweet a alot? – tweaky bird!

  42. Jerkuliscious Says:

    Good thing your a mope and not a comic.

  43. Third Axis Says:

    Holy fuck, origen. You are just downright stupid about this. It’s the Entertainment Business! This shit has been going on since the silent film era, and probably in radio before that! Ever hear of Fatty Arbuckle, Errol Flynn, John Barrymore? They were just a few of the forefather “enablers,” as were the huge movie studios for which they worked. The arrival of cocaine in the ’70s-’80s further enabled the “enablers.” And time marches inexorably onward. Young girls will continue to step off the bus and into the waiting arms of their “enablers.” The vast MAJORITY of them actually survive and prosper (well, lots of them crawl back to Kansas or wherever, defeated by their own complete lack of talent). The big difference with the porn biz is, it requires almost no talent whatsoever to make a few bucks, so the bar is set far lower. The MAJORITY of women that try to break into this work are scarcely qualified to do just about anything else—unskilled, marginally educated, and lacking the survival instincts that such a dog-eat-dog environment demands (this holds true for the entertainment industry en toto).

    So try as you may, you can’t “save” anybody from their own deficiencies. You can lead them to the facts, but you can’t make them learn. Go to work with Bill Margold and put your altruism to the test. That was a joke.

  44. Larry Horse Says:

    Steele will be here all week folks. As for Tanner she has worked for folks other than Will/Jeff and the Jim Powers traveling freak show featuring Porno Dan.

  45. jeremysteele11 Says:

    I could, Larry… easily…

    Inevitably, this is what happens to some of Charlie’s whores/goddesses.

    However, they should each be recognized as Sheeniuses in their own right.

  46. Michael Whiteacre Says:

    @origen and @Third Axis — Read up on Jack Pickford and Wallace Reid

    Here’s a great Richard Dreyfus monologue from Roy Karch’s favorite film, Inserts (1974), set in Hollywood circa 1930:

    The day Wally Reid died, I was having lunch with Griffith, Gish and Hayes. Somebody came in and told us what happened, and Gish started crying, right away. She said, “Poor Wally. Poor Wally. What am I going to do now?” Had to leave the table, she was crying so hard. Old Will Hays, of course, got up to go after her. She used to bring that out in people. And as he left, he turned to us and he shot this out like spit, and he said, “Good riddance. Good riddance to bad rubbish.”

    After they were gone, Griffith turned to me, and he was smiling. I’d never seen that son of a gun look so happy in my life. You know what he said? He said, “God bless him. God bless that poor son of a bitch for not dying in the middle of my picture.” And then he ate Lillian’s dessert.

  47. Jerkuliscious Says:

    Alright Gurrrmeee, if you are referring to Kacey Jordan and Bree (filthy pig) Olsen as Sheeniuses, that is a good one.

  48. jeremysteele11 Says:

    That’s not what I was doing, Jerko. I wasn’t calling his Goddesses Sheeniuses. A Sheenius can be construed as a crack head following the school of “winning”. But in order to be able to possibly handle the deleterious effects of drug abuse one has to have as big of a head (ego) as Charlie Sheen.

  49. Karmafan Says:

    Most of Sheen’s goddesses were pretty skievy looking. Gotta admit Bree is pretty damn hot.

  50. jeremysteele11 Says:

    And I don’t think Bree was banging 7 gram rocks.

  51. origen Says:

    Nah, Third Axis and Michael Whiteacre. I have a big problem with this dog and pony show you both are putting forward. This is entirely a question about morality. Did Tanner Mayes make a series of irrational decisions characterized by vice–absolutely. But do you mean to tell me that her porn career had nothing to do with it? That’s ridiculous. I’m not saying that porn is an industry inherently characterized by vice but it is cause for concern when you see so many young, beautiful girls enter the Industry and then come out tattoo-riddled, jaded, depressed, and drug addicted. Correlation is not causation but it is a form of association.

    And just because “Hollywood does it too” doesn’t make it right. Let’s not forget we are dealing with the business of sex here which brings about a whole set of unique issues.

  52. origen Says:

    “Origen, you are as delusional as the tweeker you are hell bent on White Knighting.

    I am a realist. Reality tells me this broad was damaged and using drugs, before she got into porn. Porn’s only act as an enabler is providing her with income to use for better drugs.

    I have seen the damage addiction has done to friends and their families, and have no sympathy for them, only the people they hurt.

    I now see drugs as an easy way to cull the herd. Too bad they don’t work quicker, to ease everyone else’s pain.”

    But we should use drugs to exploit addicts–because they deserve it, right?

    If were up to you and you knew a lot of these girls were abused as children with the possibility of substance abuse problems you’d still have them fuck for cash.

    And this is moral how? What if someone made the same “worthless” indictment on you? I’m sure you’re not perfect…

  53. RobfromMarketing Says:

    Origen, would you give it a rest with your Kumbaya shit?

  54. Jerkuliscious Says:

    If you took the abused, damaged and addicted out of porn, there would probably be half a dozen girls, and no mopes, in the business. It aint really a job broads that have an Ivy League degree are flocking to, you dolt.

    You are a lot like Tanner. No matter how many times people tell her she needs help, she don’t believe them. With you it is no matter how many times people tell you that you are an ignorant asshole, you don’t believe them. You two kids might be a match.

    You do totally deserve to play Capt-Sav-A-Ho w/ a broad and have her actually latch on. Couple years of a dealing w/ a mental drug addict would be a proper penance for your crimes of stupidity on this site.

    Do everyone a favor and hold your breath until life is all rainbows and kittens.

  55. origen Says:

    So now I’m like Tanner… I’m not the one who uses meth, buddy.

    Project much?

  56. origen Says:

    “If you took the abused, damaged and addicted out of porn, there would probably be half a dozen girls, and no mopes, in the business. It aint really a job broads that have an Ivy League degree are flocking to, you dolt.”

    You don’t know that. Just because no one has made an effort to get drugs out of porn doesn’t mean it’s a necessary part of the business.

  57. jeremysteele11 Says:

    One of the real enemies of the porn industry is drug use/abuse. It turns cuties into ugly wrecks and destroys the immune system and this is where otherwise harmless bacteria, viruses and germs have the breeding ground to fester and spread. This is the real threat to the industry; sex workers with trashed immune systems harboring all kinds of infections. And HIV is not the problem. The AIDS mega-industry is, corrupt and compromised to the core from the start. The first time I heard Origen’s “correlation does not equal causation” phrase was in the “HIV=AIDS: Fact or Fraud” documentary found free on the internet. Now a lot of people use that phrase to sound smart, but it is a noteworthy point for those who like to automatically associate one thing with another.

  58. Larry Horse Says:

    Hollie Stevens passed away today, bummer. Hope Shelley doesnt add her to her porn star body count. Maybe Raven Alexis should give the money she allegedly scammed to pay for the funeral expenses for Hollie.

  59. Third Axis Says:

    “…get drugs out of porn.” Maybe even get drugs out of society? Origen, you actually are dumber than I thought. And to equate “morality” with porn is the most brain-addled notion that I’ve seen on this site, ever. As Cindi would say, “congrads!”

    Are you sure that you aren’t an alt of Lubben or Foster? Or both? Now, go play in the street like a good little moralist.

  60. Jerkuliscious Says:

    Yes, I have used meth. Maybe once this month, not the next and 2 times the one after. See, I use it, it doesn’t use me. That is the difference between a recreational user and an addict. I can have a night worth laying around for quite some time, before I choose to consume it. It doesn’t effect my job, my life or my loved ones, and I would never let it. Am I addicted to anything? Sure, cigarettes and jacking off.

    No one said drugs are necessary for the porn biddness. That is you pulling stuff out of your ass, because your argument is shit. Getting all the drugs out of porn would be almost as hard as getting all the stupid outta you. We’d be left w/ a skeleton and very little skin.

    BAM! SUCK IT!

  61. jeremysteele11 Says:

    They ought to call it wreck-reational drug use.

  62. Jerkuliscious Says:

    Dude, half the reason for meth is so you don’t wreck on the drive home. Why you think bikers use it?

  63. jeremysteele11 Says:

    Yes I know. My old psycho ex Eden got pure stuff from her biker friends so I was able to drive from Denver to Duluth (up at Lake Superior) non stop (except for gas).

  64. RickMadrid Says:

    Congrads Will Ryder! You got a blow job from Tanner. Who hasn’t? ohhh that MOPE Jeremy and Third Axis the porn stalker from Hollywood.

  65. jeremysteele11 Says:

    I was just wondering to myself, Rick Madrid, who’s dumber, you, NickE or the MoFo. Now you’re calling 3rd Axis “stalker” just like MoFo likes to call lots of people, and screaming “mope” in large letters with your long list of bukkake jobs. What happened Rick? If I’m such a mope why were you calling me several times a day, forcing me to block your number? Have you even done one boy/girl scene that anyone can find on the net?

    Who do you think you’re impressing with your $10,000 per scene, running around the nation, getting laid b.s., stupid? Do you know what mentally deficient looks like? Look in the mirror. Stare deep into those stupid eyes of yours.

  66. brutalscrooge Says:

    Lololol @ ‘pure meth’
    @origen – just stop
    @jerk – you do meth, you lose.
    @rickmadrid humbolt county huh? So you’re smoking something someone had trouble moving until 7 months after harvest season? Solid. Solid.
    @michaelwhitacre – if this was Shelly getting busted you’d be all over it. Ps your ex smokes meth, faggot.

  67. brutalscrooge Says:

    @grandpawhitacre I heard that’s not all she’s on either.. Better get your cape on and swoop in before its too late, captain.

  68. origen Says:

    “Yes, I have used meth. Maybe once this month, not the next and 2 times the one after. See, I use it, it doesn’t use me. ”

    Uh-huh.

    “Getting all the drugs out of porn would be almost as hard as getting all the stupid outta you. ”

    That’s bullshit. The real companies require mandatory drug testing. Why can’t porn?

  69. origen Says:

    “And to equate “morality” with porn is the most brain-addled notion that I’ve seen on this site, ever. As Cindi would say, “congrads!”

    Ok. Now we’re getting somewhere. Now let’s trash this bullshit that the adult industry is unfairly stigmatized by society. In some ways it is but conventional wisdom is right–your morals suck.

  70. Jerkuliscious Says:

    “Getting all the drugs out of porn would be almost as hard as getting all the stupid outta you. ”

    “That’s bullshit. The real companies require mandatory drug testing. Why can’t porn?”

    Because there would be next to no whores or mopes to shoot you brainless fuck. I wrote that before. Now ask me another question that results in a redundant answer and show us all how intolerably stupid you are.

    You choke on a chicken bone when you were a child? Home schooled? There gotta be something that fucking ails you.

  71. origen Says:

    Origen: “That’s bullshit. The real companies require mandatory drug testing. Why can’t porn?”

    Jerk: “Because there would be next to no whores or mopes to shoot you brainless fuck.”

    Jerk: “No one said drugs are necessary for the porn biddness. That is you pulling stuff out of your ass…”

    ?

  72. Jerkuliscious Says:

    Drugs are not necessary for there to be porn, but the industry would be smaller if you didn’t allow druggies in. And I could give a shit if they are all drugged up. At least they are getting tested and making some money. That is better than Back Page ads and handing over half the 250roses to a pimp. Do you think they would be angels w/o porn?

    Personally, I think the LA centered porn bidness is going the way of the dodo and the Polaroid. Too damn easy for places like BackRoomCastingCouch, GirlsDoPorn, FacialAbuse, etc to run under the radar and not have rubber checkers, permit checkers and AIDS foundation fruits up their asses.

    Back on topic. Tanner has a good chance at a rap career. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbo5CZz1C4E

  73. Jerkuliscious Says:

    Damn, moderation, probably for a link :(

  74. Third Axis Says:

    Origen, you lost this debate back around comment #8. Just stay down.

    MavRick, you lost the attention of everyone on this board the first time time you posted your third-grade English on eight threads at once, you ‘tard. Go jack off with thirteen other geniuses on a toothless runaway in a Florida trailer park. You might just get $50 for that from Midnight Media’s “straight division.”

  75. Jerkuliscious Says:

    Now that is a brand of well thought out bile and imagery that I can appreciate.

  76. origen Says:

    I didn’t lose anything, Third.

    I don’t get why drug testing is such a horrible idea. It’s not as oppressive as condom-only regulation. It’s a fucking good idea that some studios or agencies should try and would lead to a better industry.

  77. Jerkuliscious Says:

    Should do criminal background checks and mental health checks too.

    I don’t know if you are aware of xxxporntalk, but there is a stellar thread in the Cage forum entitled Hot and High, that you should check out. Lots of bitches getting high and naked, mostly amateur and happy. So if people do that for fun, why deprive them of getting paid for their hobbies?

    There was some controversy about the pudgy dykes, but they were eating shrooms. You know how hard it is to find naked pics of chicks eating shrooms and getting naked? I think one of them was blowing lines in a later pic, I forget if it was coke or Adderall.

  78. origen Says:

    “I don’t know if you are aware of xxxporntalk, but there is a stellar thread in the Cage forum entitled Hot and High, that you should check out.”

    I’m aware of it. That and the “she’s dead inside” thread are why XPT is a hell-hole.

  79. Third Axis Says:

    It’s a stupid and invasive idea and practice—particularly in porn!—and I don’t support it in ANY workplace, because it makes no distinction as to what individuals do in their personal lives. That is the business of the individual, and NOT an employer, government agency, or anybody else. I’ve never taken a drug test, and never will. I don’t take hard drugs, but cannabis will get you fired just as sure as meth will.

    Drug testing in porn is the most ludicrous idea in the world. You’ve succeeded again, young Einstein. And, yeah, you lose. Again.

  80. origen Says:

    “That is the business of the individual, and NOT an employer, government agency, or anybody else. I’ve never taken a drug test, and never will.”

    !!! Bullshit…

    are you being serious?

  81. Third Axis Says:

    Plus, you do know that it’s very easy to cheat a common drug test, right? Aside from a hair sample test, which is the most expensive to conduct, so less often used.

  82. Third Axis Says:

    Damn right, mutherfucker. Stay out of my piss.

  83. origen Says:

    Cheating is a different issue. If someone cheats and gets away with it, oh well. As long as there is a diligent effort to promote well-being, that’s all I care about…

    Seriously? Employers don’t need to know if their employee is decked out on PCP? SERIOUSLY?

    You can exercise discretion with drug test results. Marijuana can be excused especially as it’s commonly medical. Same thing with the legal ethneogens…

    If drug tests are invasive, hell, let’s do away with STD testing too. Fuck that shit.

  84. Third Axis Says:

    Comparing drugs to STDs, now, brainiac. Not only are you a moralist in the wrong fucking place here, you’re officially an imbecile as well. Quit while you’re well behind.

  85. origen Says:

    Yeah, right. You’re the one who came up with the whole “drug tests are invasive” shit in the context of employment AT motherfucking WILL. Give me a break.

  86. Third Axis Says:

    I’m sure that there’s a nice job waiting for you with Homeland Security. You sound like that kinda guy. Gotta go now. Don’t forget to turn on your night light.

  87. jeremysteele11 Says:

    I think drug testing would serve a much more worthy purpose than STI and HIV testing. However, who’s gonna pay for it?

    On his deathbed, Louis Pasteur, in 1895 admitted he was wrong about his germ theory, stating that “The pathogen is nothing. The terrain is everything.” and that bacteria proliferate and are a result of disease, not cause of a disease… Germs seek their natural habitat – diseased tissue.

    The germ is nothing. The terrain it lives in is everything. And the terrain of a user/abuser is the breeding ground for disease. Meanwhile, these virus hunters and their sponsors have been promoting their bullshit because it’s big business.

    -Germy Steele

    (what word or name put this on moderation, cindi?)

  88. Jerkuliscious Says:

    Origen, since you now know Tanner is a drug addled mess, will you throw away the scenes of her’s that you masturbate to?

    Is your butt hurtedness the result of post masturbatory self loathing? “I hate myself for jacking off all over myself. If it wasn’t for all these drugged up pornstars that I’m addicted to, I’d be going out and getting laid.”

    Will you continue to purchase DVDs, etc, that she appears in?

    Do you not purchase music by artists you know to be drug abusers? What about mainstream movies and TV shows?

  89. Karmafan Says:

    Wow looks like Jeremy vs. Coco Loco round 2. Just agree to disagree and move on guys.

  90. Jerkuliscious Says:

    Which spot do I slot into, Jeremy’s or Coco’s? Let me know and I’ll try to run the rest of this as a parody argument in the voice of who you choose.

  91. Michael Whiteacre Says:

    Why not do both sides, Jerkuliscious? Impress us.

  92. Third Axis Says:

    Karmafan, I submit to you the Wisdom of Origen:

    “I don’t get why drug testing is such a horrible idea. It’s not as oppressive as condom-only regulation. It’s a fucking good idea that some studios or agencies should try and would lead to a better industry.”

    Yet more regulation in the porn industry. Agree or disagree?

    I, for one, vehemently oppose this notion; therefore, why would I agree otherwise?

  93. Jerkuliscious Says:

    @ Whiteacre: I don’t have an alt here to do that. Plus the logging out, logging in, over and over would make my head explode.

  94. jeremysteele11 Says:

    lemme try this again without a certain name/word and see if this still is on moderation days later…

    I think drug testing would serve a much more worthy purpose than STI and HIV testing. However, who’s gonna pay for it?

    On his deathbed, Louis Pasteur, in 1895 admitted he was wrong about his germ theory, stating that “The pathogen is nothing. The terrain is everything.” and that bacteria proliferate and are a result of disease, not cause of a disease… Germs seek their natural habitat – diseased tissue.

    The germ is nothing. The terrain it lives in is everything. And the terrain of a user/abuser is the breeding ground for disease. Meanwhile, these virus hunters and their sponsors have been promoting their bullshit because it’s big business.

    (as I suspected, Cindi has anyone my alt name germ – y on mod status.. that’s very sweet but entirely unnecessary).

  95. origen Says:

    @ Jerk

    I don’t jerk off to Tanner Mayes…(???)

    And the problem is that performers with drug problems form a significant population of this industry. I’m not saying the Industry is bad but it is bad that there is nothing being done to address this problem.

    @ Third Axis

    When did I say ANYTHING about regulation? Go read a book..

  96. origen Says:

    @ Jeremy,

    Good question about who’s gonna pay for it. If I were a producer I’d pay for it. It helps promotes performer reliability and a sound conscience. It’s not that expensive either.

  97. jeremysteele11 Says:

    Pursuers of truth, scientists and box watchers, have to be willing to abandon opinions and beliefs once evidence comes in which throws their set conclusions out the window (controlled by money and politics)… regardless of how many years one has adheared to so-called “common knowledge”…. unless ego and the need to believe one has had it wrong all these years (individually, or especially, collectively) is just too hard and painful to accept. But ego is what has created some of the worst retards in the world, several which are commenters on LIB. It’s more understandable (although still not excusable) that those whose bias are fixed by personal gain may not open their minds, but what about the rest of us? WTF do you we have to gain by buying the bullshit when we can be liberated from it? Brainwashing is such a pathetic trait of mankind, especially these days when we have access to more data at our fingertips. Come on, people!

  98. Jerkuliscious Says:

    If you don’t jerk off to her, then why care? ;)

    Ever jerked off to a known or alleged drug user?

    You are posting on a porn site (porn industry site, big diff) you can admit to jerking off. There are thousands of people and billions of dollars trying to get you to dump a nut in a wad of tissues, so it is OK to talk about.

  99. Third Axis Says:

    Just about every time you set finger to keypad, origen, you offer up something new to refute.

    You didn’t say, “ANYTHING about regulation?” Really? What, then, is drug testing, if not a “regulation?” By definition a regulation is, “a rule or directive made and maintained by an authority.” In this case, that “authority” would be “the employer/agency.”

    Drug testing, whether mandatory or voluntary, is a regulation. I contend that we need less regulation in this industry—and our lives—not more regulation. I’ll write that word for you again, origen. Regulation.

    It’s apparent that you really have no idea how the porn industry works. It’s not just a small handful of centralized big companies, which authorities can easily regulate—and I include the mandating of barrier protection in this regard—but also hundreds if not thousands of small ones, along with individual producers, indy web-camers, and distributors which buy content from every corner of the globe. Many conduct business on a cash-only basis, and are therefore even harder to pinpoint. I absolutely defy any agency/municipality/vote-whoring politician to corral this vast network into some regulatory pen. It’s IMPOSSIBLE.

    OK, say you get a bunch of the bigger companies/agencies to voluntarily agree to a drug-testing policy. What have you actually accomplished? You’ve made an infinitesimal drop in the ocean of porn. You have imposed a costly regulation on a very tiny percentage of businesses, while all the rest go scott free—because they can and will. And all those poor, drug-addled girls and boys now just have to go down the street to the next company/producer and maybe take a pay cut to do the same damn thing they were doing before.

    Do you see the error in your logic, origen? You can claim all the moral high ground that you want. It’s yours. But this industry could give a shit about your morals or your proposed regulation. That’s right, regulation. You said it first, not me. Go form a union (wait, that idea already failed), or open a health clinic, or find a pulpit somewhere where you can amass some sheeple to herd.

  100. Third Axis Says:

    Incidentally, smart guy, I generally read two to three books per week, plus a dozen or more scripts, and a shit ton of periodicals. Try to keep up to speed, junior.

  101. Jerkuliscious Says:

    Really, I gotta a script I’m currently working on called When Fanboys Attack. 3 different tales of basement dwelling stalkers that take different paths to gain access to their prey, and for different reasons. Whattaya think? I don’t have the patience for anything more than a short story, so I gotta put them together, no trilogy.

  102. Third Axis Says:

    Great concept. But only if you can attach that fat dude that shows up at the expo every year, forget his name…

  103. Third Axis Says:

    Oh, yeah, AC Cream! That guy is movie gold! Doesn’t even matter if he can act or not. All he needs to do is leer and be himself. I’m gettin on the phone right now, dude. Can you sched a lunch next week?

  104. Third Axis Says:

    And, bingo! We have Tanner’s next project…

  105. origen Says:

    Well, I just think you’re using the term regulation rather loosely. The word is mostly associated with rules that are enforced by the powers government (as denoted by its common legal definition). I think you are being disingenuous when you are equating the voluntary policies of individual firms with the sweeping impact of legislation–especially considering the inflammatory impact of the CalOsha condom-only mandate. There is a difference–government always has the coercion of the gun in its arsenal. You making me out to be a authoritarian boogeyman and I’m not.

    You say you read a lot, so you must be a thinking man. As a thinking man, you have to explain how it is moral to see a significant portion of performers enter into this industry with visible drug problems, showering all sorts of havoc upon fellow performers and producers (from stealing shit to fighting to not showing up to set, etc…) and be favor of doing ABSOLUTELY nothing to address these problems. I’m sure you’re a good dude who doesn’t think performers addicted to hard drugs enhance the quality of the scenes. So if there is a type of policy (okay, regulation) that could prevent some of these negative outcomes, why not pursue it?

    There’s a lot I don’t know about the Industry but I do realize it is large and quite decentralized. But, nevertheless, it is an industry. There are certain norms (regulations?) and practices that are common internationally. Operating with an STD testing regime is common. Paying performers a flat-rate per scene (and not a residual percentage of revenue) is common. Hell, the freaking cum shot/fade to black is common. All these norms and practices had to start somewhere. Someone had to try it out. And that’s all I’m saying–someone should try drug testing out. Making an effort is not a panacea but it’s the morally responsible thing to do.

  106. Jerkuliscious Says:

    Origen: Blah blah blah
    We are on to bigger and better things.

    @Third Axis: If you are within a 100 miles of New Jersey, sure. A Tanner/AC scene would be creepier than a Minion scene. Since no one wants to see him naked, that can end w/ him sniffing her panties and violating her w/ his sausage fingers while she’s passed out on the shit house floor of a convention.

  107. origen Says:

    Film it a la David Aaron Clark and that sounds cool. just don’t use Tanner…

  108. origen Says:

    Lord willing, drug testing will be a trend in the future. Probably would be successful too…

  109. Karmafan Says:

    The problem is the guys in charge of porn have always thought of porn as an outlaw organization with a never ending supply of disposable talent that you pay for the days work and you are done with them. If the talent gets too fucked up to work (drugs, alcohol, personal issues, mental health problems) you kick them to the curb and get another one.

    They would have to make a radical change in their way of doing business and start caring about the well beaing of the talent that they shoot. Testing for drugs won’t happen effectively until they change their outlook on running their porn business. The fact that the guys in charge still regulary use crossover males for their work shows they aren’t ready yet to take care of their talent.

  110. Third Axis Says:

    I just have to laugh when I read words like, “morals,” “conscience,” or “responsible” used in reference to porn. And then you throw in “lord willing”… Are you watching the same adult content as 90% of the visitors to this site, origen? Where does morality or conscience come into play when some 19-year-old girl is being gang banged by five tattooed hood rats, or worse yet, gulping the semen of 15 mopes lured from the bus station with 20 bucks apiece (after they are STI tested, of course)? How about that wide-eyed young “star” being anal fisted and DP-ed for the viewing pleasure of thousands of sweaty mouth breathers—possibly to be uncovered by her family in a shocking realization that she isn’t really a “fashion model” in L.A.?

    That, my lord-willing friend, is the real world of pornography. Romantic it ain’t, the majority that makes its wheels turn and cash to flow. Do you actually believe that drug testing will ever play a serious role in making it a cleaner, safer, more professional industry? Do you believe that the people who crank out this gratuitous gape fiesta give a damn whether that young lady is higher than Jesus on trucker speed when she shows up on the set? You, sir, are high on something even stronger. But keep livin’ the dream.

  111. jeremysteele11 Says:

    “gulping the semen of 15 mopes lured from the bus station with 20 bucks apiece (after they are STI tested, of course)?”.

    Actually, a test is $120.00 and bukkakes pay $75, so mope intellectuals like Mr. Madrid are in the hole (so to speak; they only wish they were in the hole, literally) $45.00. Bukkakas used to pay 3 digits at least until it was decided mopes would pay JM’s court expenses, but after court was done the cheap rates remained because greed is the American way. That’s why this country is sinking like the Tit-anic. All for one and fuck everyone else.

    You can take me off moderation now, Cindi. I’m not gonna talk about you know what.

  112. Walter Says:

    Jeremy, I don’t think she should. Every comment of yours should have to be approved every single time. Even after I asked you not to, you continued with your nonsense.

  113. jeremysteele11 Says:

    There is no nonsense when speaking from the heart, Walter, especially when backed up by documented science. I have only the best intentions, Walter. That is, saving lives and minds. But like Tanner, a person or collective has got to recognize they need help and be willing to receive it. But all too often the ego makes it a no go. That along with a brainwashed jellyfish brain that takes nothing other than what has been repeated, repeated, repeated as the one and only holy gospel truth, end of discussion.

  114. Walter Says:

    I was talking about your comments all over the site in general, especially the inflammatory ones from the thread on Hollie Stevens that (thankfully) Cindi deleted. Every person said something kind, you talked about Nixon and the cancer doctor mafia. There is a place for things and that was not one of them. That might be why you were put on moderation.

  115. jet_tits Says:

    Walter, Jeremy hijacks every thread on LIB. He in incapable of not doing so.

    When you look at the Hollie thread, people were genuinely sad and writing her messages. Jeremy saw all the attention Hollie was receiving and went out of his way to make the thread about him instead.

    LIB even gave him his own thread to use to post whatever he wants. But he doesn’t use it. He doesn’t want that thread because it is about him. What he wants is attention — he wants to control every thread not about him. That is why he ends up destroying every single thread on LIB.

  116. origen Says:

    @ Third Axis,

    Like the Colonel, you are a smart dude but why are you promoting this cliche of the self-loathing pornographer?

    A true individualist stands by his work. There is a place in society for porn. Just because one performs in or produces porn (even extreme porn), doesn’t make one a bad person.

    The porn industry exists to provide depictions of sexual fantasies. The morality of choosing to perform in pornography is such that one is choosing to give a performance (primarily) on a contractual basis. The contract and California law make this business legitimate and it is only adult industry business practices that I am addressing at this time. Your agitated reference of “some 19-year-old girl is being gang banged by five tattooed hood rats” kinda confuses me as it does not follow in this discussion. How do you find a particular sex act immoral as long as it is relatively safe (no long-term damage), consensual, and within the scope of an agreed-upon contract?

    I am well aware that there many safety concerns within this industry. Its association with the availability of hard drugs is one of them, in my opinion.

    Drug testing would make a positive impact. If one high-end studio would implement the policy, especially as it concerns “contract-stars”, it would influence the behavior of many other performers striving to elevate their career.

  117. origen Says:

    “The problem is the guys in charge of porn have always thought of porn as an outlaw organization with a never ending supply of disposable talent that you pay for the days work and you are done with them. If the talent gets too fucked up to work (drugs, alcohol, personal issues, mental health problems) you kick them to the curb and get another one.

    They would have to make a radical change in their way of doing business and start caring about the well beaing of the talent that they shoot. Testing for drugs won’t happen effectively until they change their outlook on running their porn business. The fact that the guys in charge still regulary use crossover males for their work shows they aren’t ready yet to take care of their talent.”

    So well said, Karmafan. wow

  118. Third Axis Says:

    Self-loathing? I don’t don’t read that into my comments in the least; that’s your opinion. I’m just telling it like it is. Porn, for the most part, isn’t pretty, clean, or morally acceptable by the standards of the majority of those who use terms like “morality.”

    You started out this thread by wringing your hands over the life decisions of Tanner Mayes, then segued into a—well meaning, I’m sure—nanny lecture on the evils of drugs in porn. My point, again, is that drugs are EVERYWHERE, in every profession, in every neighborhood. So why not just test EVERYBODY?! Why focus on porn alone?

    Now you say that just one or two big studios should be the guinea pigs for your nannyism, while hundreds of others will surely not take that step. My point, again, is that this will accomplish nothing. It will not change the industry. Others will not follow en mass. There would be no “radical change,” in your words. It would be a waste of time and money—but the testing facilities would make a few bucks.

    I’ve said all I care to on this subject, and my points are clear. I’m not a nihilist, just a realist who has worked inside this business for a while and seen firsthand how it works and its mindset. Now it’s faced with massive financial losses and pressure from outside forces. The idea of piling on yet more “responsibility” is definitely not one that you’ll get much support for. Next subject.

  119. Third Axis Says:

    One brief addendum: Aside from actual contract performers, who work for only one studio, there are no other contractual workers in porn. A signed model release does not constitute any binding contract, it only gives the holder limited, sometimes unlimited, rights for stipulated use of the assigned images. The majority of performers are work-for-hire and not bound by any labor contract. Of course, this has been a debatable issue over independent-contractor status, at least here in the state of California.

  120. jeremysteele11 Says:

    “Every person said something kind, you talked about Nixon and the cancer doctor mafia”

    Why do you destroy your own credibility by ignoring the fact that I previously said words of condolence, Walter?

    Again, you’re telling me what is the right way to express one’s remorse. That’s bullshit! Because people don’t want to find out what’s really going there’s going to be many more Hollies. That’s a fucking guarantee. But go ahead and pretend you give a damn about that.

    And The Roypissed’s wife “jet tits” has no credibility. She has one solitary mission on LIB.

  121. Kelli Says:

    There are a lot of contractual workers in porn. I’m under contract with a porn company. I also know programmers, graphics artists, SEO gurus and affiliate managers “under contract” with one company or another in porn.

    While we may not be performers, your statement that there are no other contractual workers in porn is inaccurate. And besides the yearly and bi-year porn star contracts you here of there are also other shorter ones you often don’t. There are some people who sign like 3 movies deals and if said movies are good that could lead to other things but anywho, there are a lot of different kind of things behind the scenes you don’t consider.

    Also just thought of another one. Porn stars who are contracted to certain website networks.

  122. Third Axis Says:

    Kelli, you’re correct about people on the production/technical side (which is where I have worked myself). I was discussing the status of performers specifically. The short-term contracts you refer to are generally with the larger companies, not the myriad of smaller producers; therefore, they’re not the norm. The great majority of porn performers never sign any type of legal contract. I was indeed in error by writing “…no other…” I stand corrected, thanks.

  123. Third Axis Says:

    As someone who works in the industry, Kelli, what’s your opinion on the idea of widespread drug testing? Would you yourself consent to regular testing? Just curious. (I’m finished discussing this subject with @origen, but I’m interested to hear from actual porn biz people, what they think.)

  124. Kelli Says:

    Would I consent? if the job paid me enough, totally. I don’t drink or do drugs so it’s easy for me to say that but on a more serious note … if I was going to fight for any sort of extra testing it would be for the protection of our girls and well, I would like to see HPV and herpes test an industry standard.

  125. Walter Says:

    Congratulations Jeremy. I admit you acted like a normal human being and posted one nice normal comment. Then later you went and posted your normal stuff which led to Cindi putting you on moderation and deleting those comments.

    Go to Hollie’s memorial service and make sure to tell everyone your wild theories instead of behaving.

  126. jeremysteele11 Says:

    I’m not talking wild theories but facts. Cancer virtually never existed before the advent of industrial society, and has proliferated with the aggrandizement of medical monopolies. Cancer is an environmental, man-made and man-sustained phenomenon; in particular through corporations legally defined as persons. We live in a highly toxic society manipulated by the medical mafia pushing its highly toxic so-called “solutions”. You can use mantras on yourself like “theory” to instantaneously entrance yourself to be complacent in not reviewing the data/facts, but those mantras don’t work on me, or others who take the time to see how death is big business, and thus, an agenda.

  127. Walter Says:

    Ok Jeremy, then go there and tell everyone your facts.

  128. jeremysteele11 Says:

    I wouldn’t equate saying these things on LIB with doing so at a funeral… not that I necessarily woudn’t… if I did I would do it with certain people I had some kinship with, lamentingly, and most likely privately … and not as some scum, dumb douche (who hasn’t had real dick in years) claims that I’m trying to just get attention for myself. Again, my late grandma was diagnosed with cancer and she told the doctors who wanted to radiate her to go fuck themselves.

  129. Kelli Says:

    That’s why they found cancer in mummies from ancient Egyptian times?

    I’m not saying with technological advancements we haven’t made it worse but they have had evidence of cancer for thousands of years now … not only in Egyptian mummies but also in Peru and some American Indian tribes as well … who existed long, long long before the industrial revolution.

  130. jeremysteele11 Says:

    The study “suggests” cancer, as the Huffington 2012 post I read reads. There is an ongoing war to suggest genetics over environmentalism in the scientific community. Science also still explains/suggests the locale of the last existing wonder of the world in absurd terms(the mega ton rocks on rolling logs theory), as the pyramids are evidence of a society that was highly advanced technologically. Our current times still can’t replicate the precision of the pyramids. Additionally, there is evidence of radioactivity in ancient times, means ancient times have evidence of environmental toxicity.

  131. Walter Says:

    Jeremy, you are free to believe anything you’d like. It was just beyond disrespectful to post anything beyond condolences in that thread. If you think space aliens came down and zapped her with a cancer ray, that’s fine. But that thread was not the place for it. Are you getting what I’m trying to say?

  132. jet_tits Says:

    Jeremy, I agree with Walter in that you should go to Hollie’s funeral and ruin it for everyone, just like you do to this site.

    Maybe while talking paranoid theories on why she died, you can also replace her pictires with yours, since everything is about you anyways.

  133. origen Says:

    @Kelli

    Herpes and Hep B testing should be industry standard. HPV is kinda tricky as there is no way to test for it in men and it is EXTREMELY common. I think the most effective safety mitigation effort for HPV should be taken on the vaccine (ie Gardasil) and chemical barrier side (ie carrageenan or some other microbiocide).

    I hear Manwin (via Fabian Thymlman’s comments on MikeSouth.com) is in discussion with AHPSS about implementing tests for other common infections.

  134. jeremysteele11 Says:

    I understand what you’re saying Walter.

    And saving lives is all about me, right, Mrs. Roypissed?

  135. jeremysteele11 Says:

    (alternate response, let’s see if it goes under moderation) I understand what you’re saying Walter.

    And saving lives is all about me, right, Mrs. 3inchpov

  136. Jerkuliscious Says:

    Is 3inchpov dot com registered? If not, I think I might go with it. I may have finally found my niche.

    I already have a good idea for a catch phrase. As the whore pulls down my whitey tighties, and the camera absorbs her full expression of disappointment, I’ll say, “Since it’s half a cock, can I pay you half your rate?” That way we can see the disappointment morph into confusion and/or anger.

  137. jeremysteele11 Says:

    Try asking her about a sliding scale fee; the further you can slide it in the higher the fee. Then tell her, you don’t have a 6-pack; you have a full keg!

  138. jeremysteele11 Says:

    Meanwhile, here’s some words of wisdom a friend wrote that I thought I’d share:

    Pay attention to whom you share your intimate energy with. Intimacy at this level intertwines your aural energy with the aural energy of the other person. These powerful connections, regardless of how insignificant you think they are, leave spiritual debris, particularly within people who do not practice any type of cleansing, physical, emotional or otherwise. The more you interact intimately with someone, the deeper the connection and the more of their aura is intertwined with yours.
    Imagine the confused aura of someone who sleeps with multiple people and carries around these multiple energies? What they may not realize is that others can feel that energy which can repel positive energy and attract negative energy into your life.

  139. Third Axis Says:

    Have no fear, Jeremy. I’ll cleanse that mal juju with my gris-gris. Got a mojo hand and a black cat bone. I’m Dr. John, the Night Tripper.

  140. RickMadrid Says:

    Yeah….sure…with a filthy ass Hollywood Apartment. Liberals….

  141. Third Axis Says:

    Yet another inane, useless comment—now with politics!— from the “straight division.”

  142. Third Axis Says:

    BTW, Cindi, why do you even allow this herpes sore to still post here? Do you not remember this bit of ass-clownery:

    “attention you all in PornLand (SFV), California. I Rick Madrid will probabaly either be in the Los Angeles County Jail and dead By Cop after killing Mr Porno Dan Leal and Jim Lane of Imortal Productions.”

    Et-fucking-cetera…

    This douche should have been banned a long time ago. If not for this kind of offense, then for the continued offense of having absolutely nothing of value to say. Ever.

  143. Jerkuliscious Says:

    “Try asking her about a sliding scale fee; the further you can slide it in the higher the fee. Then tell her, you don’t have a 6-pack; you have a full keg!”

    How do you know I’m fat? You been reading my awesomeness at XPT, making a profile of me? Is you GANGSTALKING me?

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