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Do Porn & Mothering Mix? Alana Evans on Dr Drew & Shelley Lubben Appears…

see the clip here http://www.hlntv.com/video/2012/05/01/can-you-do-porn-and-be-good-mother



Do Porn & Mothering Mix? Alana Evans on Dr Drew Show

OP/Ed by Cindi


Alana Evans appeared on Dr Drew yesterday on a show about doing porn and being a good mother. I saw a ten minute clip from the show and Alana did an amazing job of answering hard questions. She came across as intelligent, well-spoken and honest.

Alana said it is a juggling act, but her family always comes first and that she spends everyday with her son, except for the four or five days a month she works.

Dr Drew definitely was opposed to Alana’s view, but he treated her fairly. Callers to the show were split but polite.

Until… Dr Drew brought Shelley Lubben on via webcam.

I’m paraphrasing here, Shelley  says that "children of porn stars are damaged. That her own daughter who is now twenty-two is still in recovery. That there were times her daughter would watch Shelly’s videos (WHAT???), that her daughter was masturbating since age four. I did really good, Shelley says,  I tried to hide her from all of it. But you can’t hide it from them. Alana, you and your husband are having unprotected sex with multiple partners and not worried about what your kids will think of this in ten years.? Recovery was eight long years of learning how to heal emotionally, mentally, physically. I caught two sexually transmitted diseases. That led to me having cervical cancer where I had half of my cervix removed. I’m probably going to have to have a hysterectomy because I had unprotected sex in porn. I paid some serious consequences, not just physically, but emotionally and psychologically."

In my opinion,  you can be a good parent no matter what job you have. It depends on the parent, not the job. And it is pretty obvious just from the clip, that Alana is a good mother and Shelley was/is a bad mother. I don’t think those truths would change, whether they worked in porn or In and Out Burgers. Alana takes responsibility for her family, and takes care of them. Shelley blames porn for everything SHE did wrong and takes none of the responsibility for the fact that she was a drug addicted hooker. The fact that Shelley would go on TV and talk about how her four year old daughter masturbated and saw her porn videos is absolutely disgusting. The fact that her child was exposed to sex, drugs & abuse at four years old is absolutely tragic…

And one more thing, I have to wonder if part of Shelley’s daughter’s ongoing "recovery" problems aren’t due to the fact that daughter is flaunted as a poster child of abuse everyday, on TV, radio, conventions etc… by Shelley. That in my opinion is just more abuse..

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32 Responses to “Do Porn & Mothering Mix? Alana Evans on Dr Drew & Shelley Lubben Appears…”

  1. Michael Whiteacre Says:

    1) In November 2010, on the Howard Stern show, Lubben claimed her daughter Tiffany had been masturbating since age nine — but on Dr. Drew yesterday she said it was age four.

    Lubben’s stories have become wilder and wilder, because it’s all about shock and “scoring points” and getting approval or attention — regardless of truth. She just says whatever she thinks is necessary to win over that particular audience.

    By the way, Tiffany was born in June 1988, so she was nine in 1997. That’s two years after Lubben claims she became “saved” after getting married to “a pastor’s son” (whom she convinced to join the army to support her and her daughter), and moving to Tacoma, WA.

    2) Her daughter Tiffany is about to turn 24 — yet Lubben says she’s 22. Nice job, Mother of the Year!

    Here are just a few Shelley Lubben quotes about how she treated her own daughter — who was conceived in a prostitution act:

    “My little girl used to wake up and take care of me. I was a horrible mother. I used to send Tiffany to the park with a beeper and tell her, ‘I’ll beep you, once my tricks have gone.’ The tricks came over, she’d go to the park. She hated me.” (Shelley Lubben Speaks Truth About Porn Industry, pt 1 of 5, 2008, on YouTube)

    “Tiffany grew up a sad little girl, neglected and her innocence was often violated. . . . I was such a bad mother…” (Shelley Lubben Former Porn Star and Prostitute, available online)

    “She was SEXUALLY ABUSED BY ONE OF MY CLIENTS, and she’d seen things no little girl should ever see.” (Ex Porn Star Tells the Hardcore Truth About Porn, pt 5 of 5, 2008, on YouTube)

    “I had child services called on me quite a few times. By the grace of G-d I never got caught!” (Ex Porn Star’s Amazing Story, pt 2 of 6, on YouTube)

    Having the world’s worst mother lecture others on parenting, and claim that she wants to be a mother to “the girls” in the adult industry, is ironic to the plaint of nausea.

  2. docqualizer Says:

    To paraphrase the popular song…

    Shelley, don’t go away mad…just go away…

  3. AIPChristina Says:

    I would like to point something for Shelley. It is perfectly common for children that young to “masturbate”. I’m sure we’ve all seen some toddler, boy or girl, who is always putting their hands down their pants. You know why they do that? Because they found out that rubbing or touching that area feels good and since children, especially that young, don’t know what is acceptable public behavior, they do it as often as they can.

    If she was masturbating to Shelley’s movies at any young, much less when she was 4, then that is a completely different issue.

  4. Karmafan Says:

    Unless a porn star home schools their children or radically changes their looks and name from their porn days that child will sooner or later run into a shitstorm of drama and grief over their parent’s chosen profession.

    I would just hope the parent has a gameplan on what to tell their child to prepare them for what is coming…

  5. Michael Whiteacre Says:

    Absolutely right, Karmafan — good parenting requires a game plan for one’s children.

    The other side of the equation is the alleviation of cultural stereotypes and biases about sex workers.

    Self-serving porn profiteers like Shelley Lubben perpetuate of the worst stereotypes about these stigmatized people. Lubben makes it harder for performers to exit the adult industry, not easier. You’re not doing adult performers any favors by telling them, and the world, that they’re a bunch of demon-possessed, mentally ill, drug addled, immoral, disease-ridden slaves of satan.

  6. RandyWhite64 Says:

    As I wrote on Twitter (I’ll let you guess my username there ;-)), Alana did a GREAT interview. She was the sane one. I’m glad I didn’t have to listen to Crazy Eyes Lubben. I’m with Cindi…the issues is the parent and their ability to be a good parent, not their profession. Alana explained how she had a plan from the beginning. She prepared her son for the eventuality she knew would come. Shells blames everyone but herself and continues abusing her daughter by thrusting her into the public sphere of how “porn” ruins lives.

    Sorry, Lubben, YOU ruined your daughter’s life by being crazy.

  7. Third Axis Says:

    Honestly, who gives a fuck what the (non-porn-enjoying) civilian opinion is of porn or sex workers? As long as religion reigns on this planet, the opinion will ALWAYS be the same! To go on any t.v. show and act as an apologist for the porn industry is absolutely pointless. Those who get it, get it. Do what you do, do it well, do it with conviction, and totally disregard those who would judge you for it. Shelley Lubben is an idiot and a blatant liar, nothing new there. Sadly, she wasn’t sterilized at birth.

  8. MonicaFoster Says:

    I think it made the show more interesting that Lubben webcammed in. I didn’t expect that. I think it’s healthy to show 2 differing experiences, stances and opinions. What I thought was worthwhile to see here, is that though Lubben is totally against Evan’s lifestyle, she didn’t shield her children’s identities where as from what I could see in the clips (though I didn’t see the actual show so I’m not sure) Evans did NOT show her family.

    I think that element brings up an interesting issue – whether you’re pro-porn, anti-porn or whatever – should anyone who’s even attached to porn ever introduce their family’s ID’s into the equation.

    The primary reason I allowed myself to be corralled into Whiteacre’s defamitory project against Lubben was due to her bringing her kids into the public eye. I thought is was dangerous then (though I know she means well and is attempting to show her family as an example) and I still do.

    There are psychos out there who will target an adult performer’s kids – especially if those children are female – to either sexually attack, kidnap or maybe even befriend in effort to drive a rift between them and their parents to later coerce into the adult world. They say the apple doesn’t fall far from the tree and there’s many who are under the assumption that a “whore breeds a whore” (or maybe a super whore – afterall, it’s 2nd generation).

    There was a show produced a while ago starring Gina Rodriguez called XXX Mommy (who ironically also claims not to be totally for the porn industry yet still works in tandem with it) who did something similar (in regards to putting her children on the national stage).

    Of course with the internet research technology available – it’s really easy to associate a person’s family member’s ID’s to anyone attached to the adult sphere (whether they want it done or not) which SUCKS (if anyone knows this it’s me) – so it seems to me that there needs to be some sort of law in place (maybe even it could be implemented by ICANN/ICM – they’d probably have to create a division for this but it could be done) that monitors and routinely disconnects an adult performer’s stage name and real name from that of their relatives.

    I’m not a mom, so my view on this doesn’t hold much weight either way – I see how having families is just a part of life for many – BUT I think kids need to have a chance in to build their reputations and lives free of attachments to the “mistakes” of their parents – that might be to idealistic of me though.

    What will be interesting to observe in the next few decades is the phenomenon of adults coming out publicly in regards to their parents who were attached to this era of the porn industry. Whether their parents were pro-porn or anti-porn won’t matter – the impact this issue will have had on their lives will be pretty heavy due to how their peers (and parents of their peers) treat them.

  9. jeremysteele11 Says:

    More opinions from the one who said LIB is run by the KKK.

  10. jeremysteele11 Says:

    Let ye who has never jerked off to porn throw the first stone! Otherwise STFU.

  11. jeremysteele11 Says:

    And I thought Christianity is supposed to be about love, forgiveness, judging not, lest ye be judged, etc (not taking inquistions into account, the burning of witches and ancient libraries, etc). Let’s crucify the monopoly driven “free market”/slavery-based capitalist system first, which compels many women into sex work in order to survive and/or thrive. It used to be women didn’t have to work at all before the Rothschilds and Rockefellers rigged the system. We have “women’s lib” which means women have to go to work AND take care of their children. When is Dr. Drew gonna do a segment on human trafficking or something much more important and impacting on society?

    And go visit the temples of Khujarajo in India which have lots of whacky porn on it’s walls. The point is you gotta pass through it to reach spirituality.

  12. jeremysteele11 Says:

    Khajuraho, that is.

  13. Anthony Kennerson Says:

    I don’t know if anybody else saw this but:

    If Shelley did say that her daughter had been “masturbating” to her movies as early as age 4, that would be what we call a LIE.

    Taking Michael’s point that her youngest daughter was born in 1988, that would mean that she would have become 4 by 1992. Shelley’s first porn film wasn’t released until around 1993.

    Never mind the notion of how a FOUR YEAR OLD child would react to seeing any naked pics, let alone a vid of her mother….exactly how in the HELL would that child get access to watch such videos in the first place?? Unless, of course, Shelley exposed her daughter to such to begin with??

    Also…wasn’t Shelley openly doing prostitution at that time as well??

    This is by no means saying that prostitutes and porn performers can’t be mothers and shouldn’t be allowed the right to raise their kids…but me thinks that Shelley’s piling on the BS again. As usual.

    Anthony

  14. Anthony Kennerson Says:

    @Jeremy

    Drew Pinsky (this sanctomonious prudish asshole doesn’t deserve to be called a doctor) will do a piece on human trafficking only when he can blame it on porn and men who enjoy it. That’s been his MO from “Loveline” on down.

    Anthony

  15. Anthony Kennerson Says:

    Ahhh…no, Monica.

    If anyone is going to attack the children of porn performers, it’s going to be the usual antiporn religious whackjobs who want to shame them into submission. The way to overcome those attacks is the same everywhere: Be honest about your own position, judge your parents by their treatment of others, not by their profession, and tell the haters to simply go to hell.

    And, the only thing defamatory about Whiteacre’s exposure of Shelley Lubben is Lubben’s reaction to it.

    But, then again, birds of a feather flock together, right, Ms. Foster??

    Anthony

  16. Michael Whiteacre Says:

    Shelley said, “She was masturbating since age four, since I was involved in that lifestyle. And listen, I did really good, I tried to hide her from all of that.”

    I find it ironic to say the least that, as she speaks about shielding children from a matter such as porn, up on the screen pops photos of Shelley’s MINOR children that she provided to the Dr. Drew show! As Jordan Owen has noted, to Shelley her family members are nothing more than “evangelical stage props” that she can wave around like a flag of moral authority.

    Yes, Anthony — Shelley’s daughter was born in 1988, and Shelley admits she was an alcoholic, drug-abusing illegal prostitute and con artist since 1986, when she was 18. Shelley did not shoot any of her 17 or fewer porn scenes until 1993.

    “That Lifestyle” was not a porn lifestyle, but the lifestyle of a selfish, mentally ill, addicted, illegal prostitute and hustler — a criminal lifestyle.

    I write “17 or fewer,” because it appears that some of the movies attributed to “Roxy” may have in fact featured either a different performer, or a previously released scene re-used in another movie.

  17. chichiladouche Says:

    Wasn’t Alana Evans the one who accused a friend of Brian McKinght’s children of raping her after she partied with them? I think at the time Alana was around 32 years old and partying with McKnight’s sons were 15 and 17 years old at the time. Not exactly a convincing case that she’s a great mother or role model for her son.

  18. Larry Horse Says:

    Thanks chichi for making that point about Alana, I was trying to remember the story. Alana also loses good mom points on doing boy/girl with Tiffany Mynx’s barely legal son. Tiffany another porn mom of the year candidate. As for Shelley, she looked more the stereotypical porn star than Alana. There are better porn mom examples out there.

  19. Puyfai Says:

    It seemed to mix very well for Desi.

  20. Will Ryder Says:

    Is that the same Alana Evans who stars as Carol Brady in Not the Bradys XXX?

  21. RickMadrid Says:

    Just saw Shelly on TV the other night on one of those Christain Right winger tv shows up in Buggersfield(kern county) and she was really talking bad about the Industry on that show. The she had to put in her two cents about whats it like to really make love to your wife if you were married and how men try to fuck there wives like PORNSTARS…LOL….I had to go puke in my Mother’s bathroom after seeing that.

  22. Sargeant Says:

    Alana conveniently leaves out:
    1) Buying alcohol and taking drugs with a 15 and 17 year old and then trying to charge their friend with rape.
    2) Her suitcase pimp husband’s lack of being able to support her. Hasn’t she been with the same loser for years?
    3) The notorious Tiffany Mynx’s son porn film when he turned 18.
    4) The fact that she’s a major pothead and uses God knows what else. Look at her old movies…she didn’t get that thin from Jenny Craig.
    5) Do the math people. Nobody makes a living from doing porn a couple of days a month. She’s either working more and/or escorting….or something even sketchier.

    Mother of the Year indeed. If she was a good mom she would have gave those kids up for adoption when they were babies.

  23. jeremysteele11 Says:

    Welcome back Rick Madrid. How are those $100,000 boy/girl scenes going? I’ve only up’d my rate so far to $85,500 per scene, with full body condoms and complete background check regarding their escort and personal activities dating back to 1996. Anal also costs extra. I ain’t fucking no pooper without bunghole fees. After all, tranny or not, a bunghole is still a bunghole, right?

  24. Karmafan Says:

    Sargeant you cant really say #3 is an issue. Lots and lots of porn girls start at 18. Why should it be any different for Tiffany’s son? Long as he doesn’t fuck Tiffany who cares?

  25. jeremysteele11 Says:

    Who the fuck cares who fucks who and how? How many people have fucked to get a job, or fuck and get married to be set up in some way, financially and socially? Hypocrisy runs deep in this shit pit called Intellectual T.V. Society.

  26. Sargeant Says:

    Karmafan a mother pimping her son out and Alana being part of that; fucking him while mother is on set (apparently)? Maybe it’s just be but it’s kind of sickening.

  27. Larry Horse Says:

    I heard Alana’s show on Spice last nigh, guess Dr Drew’s staff didnt vet that. I know a lot of its bullshit, but still.

  28. jeremysteele11 Says:

    At least “Dr” Drew addressed her as “Mother and Porn Star” and not “Porn Star and Mother”.

  29. RickMadrid Says:

    hey Jeremy; Getting ready for South America, and because of the Confidetial aggrement and some other stuff I can’t Elaborate anymore that say the girl im”plugging” for 10 scenes is retiring and were doing a full feature shoots. And then i’m knocking out some other stuff for other Foreign companies. Yeah they pay really big bucks. And they medically hook you up! like Boing!. Seeya late off to Toritos. Glad to escape Buggersfield and the White “conservative” Nazis for a couple weeks.

  30. RickMadrid Says:

    No tranny’s Jeremy. Stay banging the females!. Welcome back xxx coming from Pureplay soon.

  31. jeremysteele11 Says:

    South America. Confidentiality agreement for porn. 10 scenes. $100,000. Right on Rick Madrid. We all know you ain’t lying. Uh huh. By the way, I don’t know if you know but I own the Golden Gate Bridge. I make a killing every year collecting tolls, but I’m tired and wanna retire so I’ll sell it to you for just $10,000. Email me at imanidiot @ pornmope dot com.

  32. RickMadrid Says:

    Hahahaha!! No I don’t want the Gate Bridge dude! The Verranzo Bridge in NYC is better. Yeah I just got done talking to the Producer from South America and he saw your post here. I can’t tell you anymore than that, But First class flights, 5 star hotel, and 10 days in a very Beautiful country fucking her and other up girls that are new to the”game”. Maybe we’ll do Welcome back, kotter in South America. go to go…Have a good Friday, jeremy!!

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