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Justin Long Says- “I will No Longer be doing any sort of Interracial Porn”

OP/ED by Justin Long

 

So, as I told you I would, here is the mail. For a long time I have been concerned, stressed, and pissed off to say the least, about the state of racial relations in the adult industry. I too have been guilty to some point as of late by conversing with female stars that don’t do IR. In hind site this was bad, and foolhardy. I am far from a racist having been born to a black father, and a white mother. My father was never around (in fact I have only met him four times in my life and haven’t spoken with, or seen him in over 20 years), and thus I was raised by my white mother and my half sister who is also mixed black and white. Growing up in Oregon partially I have experienced my share of racism. However, until entering the adult industry, I had never experienced it on such a massive level, and had to endure it on a day-to-day basis. With growing up with my mother’s side of the family only I have always been around white people. Growing up however, I have had black influences, as my aunt and mother only dated black men, and visiting and eventually living with my aunt who was the first white woman to ever live in the notorious projects of Seaside, CA.
 
    Enough about my life LOL. So, today I have canceled what work I had in LA and informed my agents that effective immediately, I will no longer be doing any sort of IR porn. This decision was not easy. I am NOT racist as I have stated and obviously could not be with a white mother and family. I will suffer from this decision no doubt, but I feel the mental anguish will be less of a burden then the financial. I feel horrible thinking that this is the only way for people to know exactly how I feel, and more over the only way for me to yell out if you will "what the fuck, this is bullshit". Some will say "well you are being racist yourself in this decision". I would have to agree. It is wrong for anyone to say they won’t work with someone because of skin color or nationality. However, what is a black star to do if he/she is fed up with the racial profiling he/she has to endure everyday in this industry? This is not just about getting between contract stars legs. This is about the fact that every solid thing that a black star is not allotted to earn in the adult industry can be led back to three simple things; agents telling girls "no interracial" or convincing them not to do IR, big companies refusing to shoot a fair percentage of content involving black talent, and girl being given the choice of whether they want to choose co-talent solely on the basis of skin color, or nationality.
 
    This whole situation saddens me to no end. I am pissed off that I served in the military, to protect the freedoms of the same people that would discriminate. I am pissed off that I served in the military, and this is what my country does for me i.e.; nothing – continues to allow discrimination in my work place. So, the normal way this goes down is a girls statement " I don’t do IR I’m sorry, it’s nothing personal". How the fuck could it NOT be personal when a girl tells you that she will NOT work with you because of the color of your skin? Even worse it’s not the color of your skin obviously, because these same girls work with European and Latin darker skinned male stars that are not labeled black. The same contract and non-contract stars that say they don’t do IR are still working with non-white performers. To make it worse a % of them are trying or are getting fucked off screen by black males either talent or civilian. So, is IR just a term cause it sure in the hell doesn’t mean anyone not of that girl’s nationality. For example if an Asian girl doesn’t do IR, it should mean she only works with Asian male stars right? Well that’s not the case, it means she will work with anyone that is not Labeled Black by the adult industry. Some girls say I don’t like the movies that they put me in when I do IR so I don’t do it. Guess what? We black people don’t like the movies that makes us look like we just degrade white girls either. Do you realize that black male stars staple often times is shooting BBW movies (nothing wrong with BBW I adore a lot of them, and they rarely had attitude which is so common among female stars) but when was the last time you saw a top white or non-black male star have to staple his income with BBW shoots? I’m a skinny brotha. Again nothing wrong with BBW women (and I mean that), I have gone out with some in my personal life, because looks and a body aren’t everything, but I’m just trying to show the very un-even contrast in the industry.
 
    Is being Black a target? Is it the kiss of death in the industry? A couple male performers I know are black, but very light skinned, and seem to work with these girls on a regular basis as they have not been LABELED black . Non-IR girls have no issues shooting with them, so you would think maybe it’s just the color of the skin, but then you get to darker European, Asian and Latino male talent and all of a sudden brown skin has no bearing. So, does "it’s not personal" continue to fly as a real statement? Absolutely not. Girls and agents like to say that saving IR extends the life of a girl’s career. I have very serious doubts about that and will use a star I have worked with many times as an example. This girl has shot IR from day one in the industry (as far as I am aware) very early in her career I had shot with her more then any male in the industry (white , black or other), now she is arguably the biggest contract star in  the world. So tell me exactly how did IR extend or hurt her career. The fact is,  that non-IR girls use black male talent as stepping stones, and that is morally bankrupt in thought and action. Girls are permitted to do IR and then not do IR and then start to do it again when there work slows. The sad part is Black male talent are willing to shoot with these girls, and basically telling them it’s ok to exhibit this moral lacking behavior, and it’s alright to disrupt our income. Black males are telling these girls that we are OK with the scraps that they are throwing our way.
 
    The fact is, is every girl that refuses to do IR is saying (regardless if they speak the words) I’m doing what’s best for me and I don’t care what happens to you (Mr. Black male talent). Every girl that refuses or dips in and out of doing IR affects every black male star’s annual income. If contract stars did IR, your damn right I and others would have more scenes, because we have directors that would kill for those scenes. It is the same with all non-IR shooting females. Black males have no problem if the girls are selective in their choosing of who they shoot with and who they won’t shoot with. That’s fine, but to just say "sorry your black " hello wake the fuck up. It’s offensive, and then to follow it up with "it’s nothing personal" that just makes us even more angry because there is no way to take it but personal. The girl will take 10 cocks in a day, ass, pussy, and mouth and multiple cocks at a time as long as none of them are black? Come on, we are black, not stupid.
 
    So people ask "why do you even care" here are just a few answers; for awards they look at the top girls movies, so if  blacks can’t work with the top girls then how do WE get looked at or even come close to getting awards. I would sure like to fly to Jamaica or Hawaii to shoot a feature. No Go. This is just a couple of trickle down effects, and it doesn’t even scratch the surface. Does any one think it weird that at AVN their are 15 males nominated for best male performer and every year their are never more than three black males in that category, and 95% of the time it’s won by a white or I’ll say non-black performer that is hooked-up with the Vivids and Wickeds and VCA’s of the industry? However, even more funny is if you look at the nominees for most unsung male performer @ AVN, their are usually around 8 or 9 guy’s nominated and the list is predominately black male performers. How about equality? It’s just an Idea. How many non-black males are under contract right now? How many black males are under contract right now? How many white females are under contract right now? Now how many black females are under contract right now? Starting to get the picture. Black people are starving and getting real jobs and leaving the industry cause they can’t pay their bills, but their counter parts are like nothing major has happened because half are under contract with guaranteed money and the other half are working because the economy put mostly smaller companies out of biz not the big ones. So, who do you think shot the majority of IR? Smaller companies. Follow twitter, Sure some is a lie but you will see people post "I’m working" "I’m on set". Start keeping track and tell me what you see over a week and then lets chat.
 
    This is trickle down economics people. Top white girls refuse to work with black males. Top companies refuse to shoot black males. Top companies, and girls often could give a flying fuck about black females. How is it that black females on average make less, and work less then white females? How is it that often even if a Wicked or VCA or Digital Playground shoots a feature and has a black talent in it, its like one black talent out of a cast of like 7 or more. Are they really saying that, that is how the world is normally ? Or is this their own private little white world? Last time I checked black pirates were common in the 1700’s, also last time I checked blacks were a strong majority in the military, so how are war movies going to have one black guy out of an entire military unit? For too long the industry has (in large part) just used black people as tokens. Unfortunately for the blacks and fortunate for the world, black people in this business are too damned stupid to stand together and say enough is enough. Too many people looking out for themselves, and worrying about what the company owners will say. Here’s a clue, big companies don’t give a fuck about black talent. Behind closed doors to many in the industry we are "NIGGERS". That’s fact, that’s the way of the world is.
 
    They like our music, and love our food, and women but despise us, and will never look at us as equals, and this is the same conclusion drawn from some blacks in the industry when told "I’m sorry I don’t do IR, nothing personal though". Funny, a friend (white female star) just texted me back after I canceled our content shoot (told her I was no longer doing IR) her response was "did I do something wrong?" Guess it goes to show we all have an issue being told your money is gonna get fucked up because of the color of your skin, huh? I’m tired, I don’t want to yell, I don’t want to have a target on my back, and I don’t want to lose work or have to cause waves, but I also don’t want to feel like some fucking leper at work either. I would rather be judged as an individual when it comes to talent selection. Does color have to come in sometimes? Yes of course, you can’t have a black man play George Washington anymore then you could have a white woman play Whoopi Goldberg. Do you have any idea what it feels like to go to work and have 60% of your co-workers say "sorry won’t work with you, you’re black". Trust me it’s a shitty feeling, and then to have your advancement opportunities capped because you can’t work with some of that 60%. Shit now you’ll just get mad. My actions and reactions are in direct correlation with the actions and inflammatory speech and actions that are being taken and enacted against people of my color.
 
The racism and discrimination needs to stop. Equality has been earned.
 
 Justin Long
Adult Film Star
 
 

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  2. Houstondon Says:

    JL: “How is it that often even if a Wicked or VCA or Digital Playground shoots a feature and has a black talent in it, its like one black talent out of a cast of like 7 or more.”

    Per the US Census, the black population in the USA is just under 13% so that would actually be a pretty fair number. http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/00000.html

  3. justinlong Says:

    I can respect that. I would strongly suggest that the census is the best way of trying to figure exact numbers, but we all know that people often do NOT fill these thing out and send them in, and in the hood where a large majority of blacks live i would say that number of people that do not bother with filing census documents is probably even higher. However thank you for replying I do appreciate it no matter what the comment

  4. Real Luke Ford Fan Says:

    The NFL’s & NBA’s players are mostly black.

  5. justinlong Says:

    Real Luke Ford Fan – LOL aint that the damn truth.. LOL and only one black dude in major golf LOLOL.. the world we live in ahy

  6. JHern76 Says:

    The vast majority of interracial porn is in the genre of niche fetish. As a connoisseur of the fine art of pornography, I’ve viewed quite a bit over the years and have concluded that most interracial porn is…racist. The talent’s race (black and white) is brought up time and again in each scene. For what? It’s already obvious to anyone watching. Perhaps this is what the directors think viewers want to hear. We don’t. I watch it on mute as the dialogue is usually pretty awful.

    That being said, I applaud your efforts to shed some light on this little known fact of the adult industry.

  7. MonicaFoster Says:

    Thank you Justin for writing this.

    Justin is spot on with this piece and good for him for taking a stand – amazing how it’s taking a bi-racial brother to do it too – ironic…

    Certain caucasion’s in decision making positions working in porn studios will claim to no end that they are not racist or prejudiced and that it’s all about the dollar, but I’m STILL waiting for Digital Playground, Wicked, Adam and Even and/or Vivid to sign a BLACK CONTRACT GIRL (and in case you need some help racist studios, here’s a suggestion – JAZMINE RYDER – she is currently with Goldstar in case you need to claim you can’t find her – oh she’s listed as “latina” there as well – will THAT make you feel more comfortable?).

    The problem here is pure and simple – lack of education. In the porn industry you really don’t need to be that intelligent or educated to succeed, therefor it is composed of people who come from backgrounds of which they really don’t understand that your ethnicity doesn’t matter and that we’re all HUMAN BEINGS.

    At this point all in all, as a black male or female it’s really pointless to even attempt to work. I’ve contemplated re-entering the talent pool for a few months but really, why bother when this racism BS is going on, AND is apparently getting worse.

    It’s actually funny in my opinion when I’ve heard caucasion performers claim that they’re not “sure” about doing IR. Yea, they’ll do a 50 to 60 year old white male talent, but not a black male talent their own age.

    Also why is it assumed that black women automatically will do IR? No one asked me if I was ok with doing IR my first scene which was with a white man, and being that it WAS an IR scene, why wasn’t I offered more money?

    I remember reading an interview actually a while back on a very popular skinny pornstar who claimed she didn’t do interracial because she “wasn’t attracted to black guys” and would possibly do a black girl, but the only one she could find that she liked was Heather Hunter (who had left the business by then) – LOLOLOL – well isn’t it funny how as of current she’s trying to be the white girl interracial diva AND is producing movies specifically for the interracial market – goes to show it ain’t about the color of the cock for the girls – it’s about the green.

    Most of the young women in porn unfortunately don’t take the time to think for themselves – they just do as their told and repeat the same moronic drivel that their agents spout out in order to brainwash them and keep them in check. Also I’m convinced that being that so many young women in porn (who are white) have so little control over their lives and careers, holding on to their “whiteness” and “unwillingness” to do IR, really is the only “power play” that they have – which is pathetic.

    As the work starts to run dry, you’ll find more and more women who claim that they don’t do IR will suddenly say that it’s “ok”. You’ll also find more and more studios shooting IR (that is IF they want to survive).

    Justin, I wouldn’t say that you’re not willing to shoot IR anymore, I’d just say you’re not willing to work with dumb asses anymore.

    There are plenty of decent studios and talent to work for and with that understand that IR isn’t a big thing. Hell, look at Jules Jordan’s website – it’s got a ton of IR on it and last time I checked he’s at the top of the porn food chain – and that says a LOT to you racist porn studios and talent out there.

  8. BlasianBytch Says:

    I apologize if this is long and there’s some errors, but it was written in a rush.

    Justin Long Takes a Stand

    I would like to say that I’m 100% for everyone getting the opportunity to be depicted as a sensual and whole being. I support everyone fucking. Most of the erotica I write have a man and a woman of different races being intimate.
    After reading Justin Long’s frank and open op-ed, one thing the many questions rang in my head -Why didn’t this happen already? Will other follow? What will the backlash be? One thing I never question was the frustration and anger behind this man’s choice and my support of it.

    It seems like the same script has titillated the American public since birth of a nation, and the designation of substandard otherness has never been lifted from black bodies. Even as more groups enter the gamut they are still marked by the white vs. black scale. You see it everywhere, politics, entertainment and of course pornography.

    I will admit that I am not a porn actress; I actually don’t consume a great deal of heterosexual porn. I do I am, however, an exotic dancer as well as a journalist who writes and reads a great deal about sex, gender and media. I’m also a mixed race woman who is coded as black well sometimes.

    My exposure to racism had its roots growing up in a suburban town where I wasn’t invited to birthday parties of my white and Jewish friends for fear the little n*gg*r wouldn’t be well behaved, American black friends had a distain for my mother Caribbean heritage (often mistaken for African), race was an isolating element. It made the world into a very confusing game of them and us. I couldn’t really be on any team.

    My first exposure to racism in pornography came when I was a freshman in college, before I had taken to the pole. For my first interview as a college student I interviewed a South American born Asian man that produced and stared in porn movies for his own site, which still runs today. My story was about the representation of “model minorities” in pornography. He explained to me that he did not make interracial porn.

    My mind was blown, he was an Asian man having sex with white women, how was it not. He explained that a movie is only interracial if the man is black. I wrote him off as being in denial but as I talked to more Asians and Indians that performed in American porn almost all of them repeated what he said. They performed almost exclusively with white performers because they were considered white.

    When I asked my first interviewee why the vast majority of women on his site were white, he told me there weren’t enough Asian, Black and Hispanic women in porn to shoot with them. Of course many of the women on his site claimed to not be professionals.

    It doesn’t take an ivy leaguer to smell bullshit when it’s hurled in their face. If this man actually believed this or not I never questioned but porn releases and sales don’t lie. There are plenty of women of color working in the adult industry.

    My sophomore year was the nadir of my college career. I failed a required math class to remain in my school’s honor college and lost a sizable scholarship. Rather than admit that to my parents I chose to become a dancer. This was also the year I took basic reporting.

    On the suggestion of my coworkers I started to research and learn about prostitution on the Internet. This opened my eyes to just how backwards adult and sex industries in this country were. As part of my assignment I posed as an escort. A move that would later make me fail the class.

    I thought the best method to be believable would be to mimic an escort ad to get people to call my phone where I could then interview them about their experiences. I arbitrarily copied any ad in this case a Blonde “milf”. I changed enough for it to be a accurate ad for myself. This particular ad had on the bottom.

    “ I am not a racist, but I only service Caucasian gentlemen”

    I changed my ad to say I was exclusive to Asian men, I received some calls, mostly from white men and interviewed them and almost all of them said my ad caught their eye because here was this black girl with the audacity to exclude customers. Many easily spotted as a fake simply because of that.

    After all Black or “Ebony” providers don’t exclude whites. I was also told that my price was too high, they wouldn’t pay that much unless I was a porn star. The ad only had me valued at 600 dollars.

    It was one of the most baffling showing of White Privilege I’ve ever seen. Why would a provider’s race mean she didn’t have the power to be as selective with her johns as the next woman? Why was a white woman automatically more valuable?

    Unfortunately my teacher put a stop to my story fearing that I was putting my life in danger, not to mention the unethical method of gather information. I never got to dive deeper. I did however learn a thing or to about sex and race first hand when I decided that dancing at a single club wasn’t making enough money.

    I began dancing at underground parties, bachelor parties and special events at strip clubs. Each promoter had his or her own idea of how to “market” me. When they asked my race I would say “ I’m black and Asian”. They would frown and explain that I wasn’t “Asian” enough to be billed as Asian.

    I always would just try to ignore this but when I got to the event there would be my name and underneath it “Latina”, “Persian”, “Redbone” and if I was lucky “Ebony”. It was as if the word BLACK was taboo. Like it would some how bring down my value.

    The only times I would be billed as Asian was when I wore my hair straight, or wore a long straight black weave. I was even asked to speak as much Korean as possible. Which is ignorant on a great many levels.

    Promoters often asked me to escort when I told them explicitly that I would not. Saying things like “This white man will pay a lot of money for you” As if it was shocking that I had the audacity to refuse a white man’s dollar.

    I wonder how many times the white girls at the clubs or events were begged to see men of color, were they also called stuck up, or uppity for refusing to go out of their boundaries. Did they get booked as Black, Asian or Latina when they were not?

    My “haughtiness” cost me a lot of future jobs I suppose, but I didn’t feel that anyone had the right to pressure me to do things I didn’t want to do based on my race, size or gender. It was clear to me that most did not think I had that privilege.

    That privilege is the very basis of the racial hierarchy in America and its shown in every facet, and most unapologetically in pornography. If a major Hollywood picture wanted to make a film that depicted people of color in the way that is commonplace in most porn they would be picketed immediately. Books would be written and Oprah would cry solemnly into a camera.

    None of that happens with porn because too many people think, its just porn. That mentality not only dehumanized every performer and participant in the industry is propagates the mindset that it’s not work turning an eye to.

    Many will cry “This is America I have a right to free speech,” of course you do but if there is never a voice of opposition or another view point then all that’s created is a cesspool. That’s what American porn for the most part has become.

    The industry faces staggering downsizing is failing to see opportunity to grow. The argument is that white males buy most of the movies. Are most white males really that racist? I would like to hope not.

    Using this excuse it a self-fulfilling prophesy. If the movies made, lack diversity, and don’t appeal to women and people of color why should we buy them. Just as the publishing company is learning they’ve shot themselves in the foot by excluding women, and people of color on the covers of books as well as in their pages. The adult industry is choking itself with an outdated attitude and business model.

    What Justin Long is doing is spiting in the face of those archaic notions that are built on the foundation that people of color are not initialed to the same privileges and value as their white counterparts.

    If you honestly don’t think this isn’t about privilege think, if an Asian woman said that she only want to perform with Asian men- would she be able to support herself in America being a porn actress? Why is there such a divide between the respect that Black female actress get and White ones? Why are performers stripped of racial identity at the will of producers and managers? Does this happen to their White counterparts.

    I know I could never be a “ebony” adult actress and perform exclusively with the type of men I usually date which are usually Asian or Black and expect a long career. Even if I had my own site, would the talent even want to work with me a black bbw and make themselves part of the “fetish” or “niche” market of performers?

    Now ask … would my white counter part be able so say, “I want to work exclusively with White performers”, and the more accurate “ I want to work with anyone but Black talent”? Would studios, management, and industry be behind her?

    This an act of rebellion against a hierarchy that never served a purpose other than to dehumanize, segregate and propagate hateful attitudes. So I stand behind this man who is sacrificing his way of life to make a statement that it has to stop. I implore you to do the same.

  9. deemer86 Says:

    I’ve only dipped my toe into this business and I’ve already seen the racism and double standards that he talks about. I was talking about doing a shoot for a certain company and it was a company known for rough sex , which is fine. However it was put to me like this “they are pretty rough and they go even harder with black girls” this seemed wierd to me so i asked why and I got some round about answer about how black girls seem like they can take it better so to get the right response and blah blah blah basically what they were saying is because black girls just arent as sympathetic or as much of a “real person” as white girls, it was almost funny it was so rediculous to hear. This was of course an agency saying this, like justin said, and i did the shoot and it was fine, it was rough and i personally cant gauge if it was rougher than if i was a white girl or not, but to know that that is how black girls are looked at in that light was offputting.

  10. kakarot33621 Says:

    Hey man,
    I totally understand. While I’m not in the industry you are in, I am in an industry totally dominated by white people. Usually they have no idea I’m black until they do a background check, even after meeting me. Funny thing is, I’m not even mixed. Both of my parents are really light. Anyhow, Keep your head up. This too shall pass and there is a large croud gathering strength behind you. We support you and the other talent that stands with you.

    The Black Community

  11. allbymyself2011 Says:

    To each they own everyone has a right to make their own decision, but it comes across as mad and bitter to me.

    Who cares if people are starving and not getting work, I put my money on they just bad with business.Maybe they should diversify, take a business class, some basic web design classes, buy a video camera and a tripod etc. You know and I know most people get into porn for the wrong reasons. Its more then just fucking on film.

    Diversify, you’ve made a good name and have been successful what the fuck you care what someone elses company does with THEIR money, they can spend and invest it how they wish.

    12 out of 100 people are black in this country 6 men 6 are women so if 1 out of 7 on set is black those are representative numbers.

    Want to shoot in Jamaica book a flight, knock yourself out no one is stopping you. But thats a big budget to recoup me personally am not trying to make a oscar calibur flick, just like to share intimate moments with girl next door types to those who want to see it.

    I too come from a mixed background went to all white school where I was the only black and all black schools where I was considered the “white boy” guess what most people white and black are ignorant.

    I shoot low budget amateur and do fine, I own everything I shoot and make more selling 100 copies for my myself then 1000 for any company where I wouldnt own rights, and the girls I get mostly from the internet also make more as they get points on their vids.

    If someone doesnt want to break bread with you fuck em on to the next one, why would you want to do business with someone who behind closed doors looks down on you? Wheres the morality and ethics in that?

    You have a website put out a casting call do what you do stop trying to follow the leader, I mean its porn really you concerned with placing a porn award on your mantle lol i let you finish the 50 cent quote…if you in it for the fame you got to be a ….

    Like any business build you fan base do it because you enjoy it and you’ll be successful shit you already are but by acting like those you despise makes you no better then them

    if your plan is to wait for black folks to stick together good luck with that biz is biz even whites have the crabs in a barrel problem

    whoever depends on another person to put food on their table will eventually starve gotta learn how to feed yourself

    why dont you stand up for the real problem and thats the woman who take 10 dix a day but get no ownership rights of their vids, most dont even own their own websites and if they do have to split half, the women who are being pimped by their husbands, the men in the industry that lie to women get em drugged up and take advantage of them because they are in a bad situation, look at twitter women run the porn business they have 50 times as many followers as male “talent”, but most fans dont know its usually some abusive male their talking to lol. fuck the IR thing women need to come together and start demanding video rights on sales and ownership of their own brands. Its the scum men throwing a few hundred bucks to some homeless runaway or girl about to be evicted thats the problem. I dont like watching women get raped on film and thats the truth about most “professional” porn the mass produced meat markets preying on the naive and less fortunate promises of thousands of dollars a day, a glamorous easy life, when for a woman the truth is its hard demeaning work and is only profitable if they have a long term plan and good management and I dont mean pimp, abusive boyfriend or husband or dealer

    bottom line men and women wanna do porn buy a camera shoot and sell it yourself grow your fanbase you’ll do much better 100DVDs etc on your own is better then 1000 for any company

  12. mrxxx Says:

    I think you’re missing the point Justin.

    I can understand that some girls are bias and they do IR off camera rather than on camera, but in the end of the day, you’re pointing fingers at girls that understand that rarely doing IR adds value to that specific project, plain and simple.

    You’re analyzing a minority industry in a country that is still predominantly white, where most of the money being spent is by white people. So why would a girl saturate herself in a market that is rarely getting bought?

    I also think its funny you all of a sudden cry this out during a time where the industry is incredibly slow; most likely to get your name out there and hope that people can hire you, salute you, or whatever type of ego boost you’re looking for.

    People read your twitters and you expect people to hire you when you post to girls how big your dick is and how much better you are than XXX male talent, and they’re jumping at the opportunity to work, huh? I’ve read it in the past and frankly, I’ll never hire you because of the arrogance you deliver.

    And now you’re trying to round people up and stir up the pot, when in reality, my guess is that you aren’t a good performer, probably have to jerk to pop, and you are probably one of the guys that hits on all of the girls, again, judging by the twitter history that you have if you scroll past all of the ‘I’m Not Doing IR’ crap. So now you want some attention because you desperately need it since twitter has only 1600 people listening to your rants, you now involve LIB.

    And for the record, I’m far from racist and more of a realist understanding that everyone has reason for everything, and its pretty clear that you trying to do a pro-black boycott during a slow time isn’t going to have people taking your side. No, in the end, everyone is thinking, well, more work for me, because this industry is based on greed and using people until they run dry, not about friendships and relationships that last forever.

  13. JamSta Says:

    This was an excellent read Justin. I always found it funny when some white performers would say I’m not attracted to any black men but then would turn around and screw Ron Jeremy and such. Or when they say “My family wouldn’t approve”. It’s like, okay your family is okay with you getting slapped around, spit on or pissed on but when it comes to black men its taking it too far lol.

    I also believe some black men need to stop hounding these white women that do not do “IR” and chasing after them to do scenes with them.

    Support should be shown to those who have no qualms about working with black talent. I look at stars like Tori Black or Eva Angelina or Brianna Love before she left and wonder how doing scenes with black men hurt their careers.

    I especially hate how “IR” is looked at as a fetish or like it’s unnatural sex. Black men should also stop letting themselves be used in obvious racial scenes and films. I see titles like “Oh No You Fucked A Nigga” and “I Love Jerking Off Niggers”. Stuff like that is just pathetic. I know people have to make money but I’ll be damned if I let some white director sit there and throw around Nigger this and Nigger that.

  14. christianx Says:

    I like Justin Long, but I think its important to note that Justin Long used to work for Donny Long all the time and even defended working for him when I called him to ask him about it.

    So discriminating against alternate lifestyles is fine, but discriminating against races gets him up in arms.

    Seems a bit disingenuous to me.

    And Monica Foster is fucking ridiculous, what an idiot. Did she really say that porn girls are in this business “for the green”? Wow, what an insight, Monica you are a genius!

    Overall I agree with him that the black male performer is really struggling in this business. And yes the higher-ups at major companies are most probably racist. And yes, he is probably losing out on jobs because of that fact.

    And also just for the record, the white male performer isn’t doing so well either. Besides James Deen, Rocco Reed, Keiran Lee, and Scott Nails – I would say every single guy has taken a paycut in the past year. Every single one.

    As a producer who uses a black man as my videographer and still photographer, I am sensitive to the issue Justin raised above. And I have tried my best to hire as many black male performers as possible. Sean Michaels 3 times, Shane Diesel twice, LT once, and Julius Caesar once. This is not nearly enough, but I am trying to hire more black performers in the future.

  15. MonicaFoster Says:

    Um no Christian, you are the idiot, because you basically confirmed in your comment my posting’s points and thoughts – you simply didn’t like one thing in particular most likely that I stated due to your being protective over certain female talents and that’s OK – just keep in mind that the IR dodging that many caucasion female talents do until they’re shot out in “monoracial” porn is pathetic to many at this point.

    It’s also hypocritical and unfair to caucasion female talent’s counterparts of other ethnicities, being that they aren’t offered the same pay scale for such scenes and being that they are often EXPECTED to automatically be “ok” with IR.

  16. justinlong Says:

    you guys rocckkkkk .. i dont care if you agreed or disagreed with the article you guys rock because you are now standing up and being heard. I apprecciate all the comments regardless of thier outcome. This is not about ME this is about the blatent out in the open discrimination against no one except people of color. Contrary to popular opinion a black person shouldn’t have to start thier own company just to work.

    So i am going to address one person direct as i fear thier are going to be entirely to many opinions for me to do this later with each person.

    Mr.XXX man you are so fucking off base you actually made yourself look stupid. You obviously DO NOT know me and obviously have never bothered to try. I have been in the insudtry spanning over 12 years and you know me from tweets I started barely a year ago. Shame on you if you shoot black then. Second, if I was a shitty performer then why have I always shot for the same producers for years and keep turning others down. I have and until yesterday continued to shoot for some of the top companies in the world, hmmm they’ve never had issue with my performance.

    If you knew ME then you would also know that I been yelling fuck racism in the industry for the last 5 fucking years working or not, good economy and bad. So thier goes that speculation. Bottom line is, is I’m the guy known for saying “i aint nothin special, I’m just like everyone else” SO fuck you very much. Do your freakin homework then c ome back and appologize huh… and while you’re at it if you gonna launch personal attacks why dont you use your actual name instead of hiding like a pussy.

    Shit I don’t agree with Christianxxx 100% in some of what he said, as I remember it quite different adn the fact is is I supported a girls desicion NOT donny longs position and Christianxxx and I have a long and curteous conversation. At the end of the day he aint hiding behind a fake name taken shots. Oh and PS you obviously didn’t read the whole article or my tweets because i knew this would kill my career so fuck you Mr. xxx who wants to shoot for you.. you probably one of the same cats trying to pay niggas $300 for a shoot and then turn around and pay white male talent rate.. quit being like the KKK and show your face and then talk shit after you have actually bothered to get to know someone.. Have a great day and god bless even the idiots

  17. justinlong Says:

    funny how a brotha says he aint doin IR no more and he’s just the biggest asshole in the world but the same people bitchin are shakin thier fingers saying ” it’s a girls choice if she does IR, its her body” hmmmm and now you know exactly why i wrote this shit

  18. MilamPod Says:

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  19. christianx Says:

    Justin you are right you had a very courteous conversation. Correct you supported the girls right to choose her male talent. Isn’t that the basis of your argument here? That you disagree with girls NOT choosing to work with you because you are black. The same as girls NOT choosing to work with me because of the scenes I have done.

    Maybe I am missing the difference. Again, I like your post and agree with much of it, I am just trying to clear up this point.

  20. justinlong Says:

    haya Christian,

    True enough I supported her choice yes, but I think we both know we are talking about apples and oranges here. I have worked right next to people that have made the same choices you have and have shown no type of discrimination to the counter.

    I hear what you’re saying but again in your own words those were YOUR choices. Trust me in this world if I had had a choice of what color I would be I would had went with my native indian. People will hate and i mean hate me for the choice to write this article and have it published.. cool .. it was my choice and I have to live with that.. no problem… but I did NOT choose to be black.

  21. christianx Says:

    you are 100 percent correct. My apologies to you.

  22. President4Life Says:

    Great to see this conversation happening, as a fan, I’ve often had similar questions and had it explained to me as, “It’s just about money”. Now, that explanation doesn’t hold weight.

  23. justinlong Says:

    christianxxx you are a stand up cat in my book, just next time I seee you at least say hi.. LOL

  24. AL Says:

    I thought Mac guy was making good money with those commercials… Never knew he was so unhappy… and secretly black…and doing porn???

  25. MarieLuv Says:

    I’m glad to see someone other than myself taking a stand. Your choice is such a big deal because no one has ever done anything like it. This is such a touchy subject for me because as a black woman in this business I totally understand where Justin is coming from. I’ve been told how great of a performer I am & beautiful but… your BLACK. So there isn’t nothing that I can do for you. The treatment that black performers get in this industry is the reason why you don’t see that many of us. You have to have very tough skin to make it in this business as long as Justin has

  26. Rosco Robertson Says:

    Ive used my real name here as i feel its inappropriate to hide behind an alias.

    I’m a well known porn blogger with 2 porn blogs. I’m also a celebrity and entertainment blogger.

    I work in an industry (away from my blogs) where i meet lots of people (about 100 a day) I find it difficult to understand and accept, especially in this current day that racism in the ‘work place’ still exists. As much as porn is entertainment for us. Its a job for others. If i went to work and said to my boss “i don’t work with blacks” i would be sacked on the spot. I think the studios and agents have a right as employers have a responsibility to make sure racism DOESN’T EXIST. We are meant to be a modern society this is disgusting, DISGUSTING.

  27. Larry Horse Says:

    After reading the Trannyfucker’s first post I think he should be called Christian ZZZ, as someone called him not long ago. Justin you are way right on this one. I like porn and I dont give a shit what color the people are and I cant see why, in 2010, that white/asian girls wont work with black dudes. A porn is a porn, I want more black women in porn. Odd thing is that many amateurs from the south often work with black male talent, so its okay with those women and they are crackahs.

  28. justinlong Says:

    I have to say when i called my agent(s) who i love and cherish dearly and said I was no longer doing IR the reply was “are you serious” of course I replied “dead serious”. So, now the question is hitting me, why is that not the response when a girl says she will not do IR? hmmm just food for thought

  29. joe know Says:

    Justin,
    In your article you say that “behind closed doors to many in the industry we are NIGGERS.”

    That doesnt tell the whole story though. They call you nigger right on their boxcovers, and all to often there is a smiling black guy on that boxcover. The willingness of black performers to perpetuate these stereotypes is also a major factor in the overall status of black performers.Until black performers put pride in front of paychecks, this will never end.

    Porn is all about degredation, usually the degredation of women. But it is obvious that degredation of black people is also a very common theme in pornography. These women that allow themselves to be degraded for a paycheck are no different than black men who allow their entire race to be degraded by participating in these films.

    Dont partcipate in a racist industry, and perpetuate the racists stereotypes, and then turn around then these films wouldnt exist.

    You as a performer Mr.Long have participated in hundreds of films over the years that are about nothing but the degredation of women. What you were to blind to see, or too ignorant to see, or unwilling to see or admit, is that you have directly participated in the degredation of your owm race by perpetuating the stereotypes, and you have no one toblame but yourself for that. Cant you see that these pornographers have been using you, and others like you, to degrade women and blacks? You have done your race no favor by perpetuating these stereotypes, and I doubt that many blacks outside th porn industry approve of your depiction of the black male.

    You sir, are your own worst enemy. Congradulations for your twelve year career, built on the very stereotypes that younow claim to abhor.

  30. allbymyself2011 Says:

    rosco ur job writing doesnt require you to be intimate with others, porn should be a personal choice no male or female talent should be forced to do anything they dont want regardless if they fuck outside their race off camera, a business decision is just that so whether they are just not attracted to a certain race, or if they or doing it to cater to a certain fan base or niche, or if their holding out for more money its their CHOICE

    get over it, its like you want to go to a diner or bar that has a confederate flag or whites only sign hanging outside just to prove a point …break bread with those that want to break bread with you

    why would anyone as a performer want to work with someone that acts like that? im black if a white performer said she didnt want to work with me oh well I doubt the on screen chemistry would be good and isnt that what its about or are we back to its only about money lol, and it would be a mediocre product, you act like nobody can take their place last time i checked there are plenty of white, asian, and hispanic women who work with black guys

    its 2010 you can film, edit, produce, direct, encode, market, distribute your OWN content all you want fairly easy and fairly inexpensive or is it fame and awards u seek lol its PORN i understand its how you make a living buts its far from rocket science, dont deny most of the industry are drug addicts many who have a high school diploma at best, many who didnt have many alternatives, many who are being forced, who get paid to fuck in front of a camera, it doesnt require much skill the most important one showing your face naked while fucking on camera(please see the word MOST) its not like anyone cant do it because im sure 99% of the population could do it

    what is the point of obtaining success if you cant get your friends and family jobs, grow your fanbase and dont waste time, energy, or breath on those that dont have a common goal

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  32. pornfan Says:

    as in IR fan myself, someone mentioned that IR was developed as fetish, and back in the day as “taboo”. not so much taboo today. studios still release IR titles, if the industry is so racist, why is that IR is targeted for the white male consumer? i’ve seen Justin in shoots, but don’t watch them because i like watching dark black men in scenes. there’s something about watching a white chick sucking on a big black cock. sorry Justin you’re to “light” of a performer for me.

  33. redgoat Says:

    NL- No derailing comments on this thread please & thank you.

    Hey, Joe Know is back. Did you use your SSI check to turn your power back on, or did the library put in wheelchair access for you to use their computer?

  34. joe know Says:

    Isnt there a term that black people use to describe other blacks who do the bidding of the white man and perpetuate the negative stereotypes of his own race?

    After re-reading my post I thought about my use of the term degredation. We have all heard the “porn degrades women” argument. But I have never seen the ‘”porn degrades blacks” argument before. What do blacks in general,(not in porn) think of their fellow blacks who portray themselves they way they do?

    And regarding black male perfromers, do they not even know that they are perpetuating these stereotypes of their own race, or are they willing participants who could care less as long as the check clears. (and then try to justify their own ignorant behavior by complaining about racism in the porn industry).

    If you take offense to what I’ve written here ask youself..”why does this upset me?” If it is becuase its true then take a long look in the mirror and ask yourself…”Was portraying my race the way I have for years really worth it?”

  35. joe know Says:

    redgoat,
    Nice to see you. I have a st… of questions for you.
    And I havent been around because my M.S.was flaring up.

  36. DFuller77 Says:

    Hey Justin, you just made an career ending killer. You better get a job at Walmart because nobody isn’t going to hire you dumbass. Leave porn while you are at it and nerve comeback!

  37. joe know Says:

    And goat,
    All of the libraries in New Jersey have been handicap freindly for years. I thought you would have known that.

  38. ih8u Says:

    Sean Micheals is the only black guy I have shot that shows up on time.

  39. justinlong Says:

    LOL.. DFuller77 is that your whole comment.. wow I’m impressed. LOL.. to bad you cant see my fans reaction.. maybe you should read some of the comments above because the majority are good. Hmmmm sad sad, and what do you care about my career anyway? Obviously you have no clue who i am or what I have done or where I stand other wise you would know that what you wrote is mute. I have a college degree so no need to work next to you at wal-mart bro. So, unless you are IN porn why don’t you keep buying your white on white porn or jerking off to mine iether way thanks for the comment. God speed and God Bless

    ih8u – i have been late maybe 15 times my entire career.. hehe I am the one that shows up early. Ask any director i have shot with. Maybe sean is just your favorite adn that is cool too. Sean Michaels is 100% cool dude and you’ll never get a bad word out of me about him. He paved alot of roads. Much love to you and him

  40. joe know Says:

    As long as there are black performers willing to degrade their own people(race), nothing will change.

    As long as there are women willing to degrade their own gender, nothing will change.

    And the sad fact is there will always be people who will do anything for money, and then say anything to try to justify their actions….like accuse others of being racist.

  41. justinlong Says:

    LOL poeple do you see me crying????? uhhh nooo !!!!!! is this career suicide??? maybe maybe not. for companies that shoot black on black not even close. they are already hitting me wanting to book me. As far as the companies i have mentioned in the article one has put 600 dollars in my pocket over 12 years. So please stick to the subject and LOL at the dumb personal attacks..

    Food for thought – why is it any of you that are hating with remarks Like “this non IR crap” have never been so outspoken about girls refusing to do IR but then as soon as a brotha says thats it no more IR, all you cats wanna come out the wood work and start hating? Why dont you go to the root of the problem which is the girls, the agents, and the big comapnies? Make NO MISTAKE my actions are reactions and if anyone has the right to say no more IR it’s black talent and that earned from the racial discrimination WE deal with daily. AInt no white girls in the industry being discriminated against because they are white.. LOL get real people.. and definitely dont pretend you know me because you jerk off to porn and own 50 DVD’s you know what I want you to know about me.. LOL.. join the real world SMH

  42. justinlong Says:

    haya Joe heres a story for ya.. had a g/f that was a star.. she went on an orgy shoot up @ big bear.. as soon as one girl found out she did IR and was dating ME the girl started ridiculing and attempted with all her might to get my ex g/f fired from the scene stating ” i aint workin with no bitch that fucks N^&%&er’s (that was so luke doesn’t have to go thru BS but i think you know the word). The girl thankfully didn”t get her way in part because they werew all the way in Bear. So please tell me and write it big and loud so my ex can see your dumb ass response and tell me now that racism isn’t alive and well in the industry.

    PS i know the name of the girl and guess what? She smiles and says hello to me every time she see’s me, but when around whites we know what she really thinks now dont we. So quit making excuses for people being racist.. next you’ll be telling us thier is a logical reason for the KKK

  43. DFuller77 Says:

    Justin, I do watch IR porn and you aren’t a big named like Lex, Sean, Teel Reel, Tyler Knight or Mr Marcus. They are A-list performer and they make there money off of IR porn, you know many companies aren’t going to used you anymore and you better started those retirement plans son because nobody isn’t going to hire you sorry weak ass. you just made an career killing path.

  44. joe know Says:

    Justin,
    I just clicked the link to your myspace page. And what is the FIRST thing you see there. oxcover for a A boxcover for a movie titled..”Fresh Hot Tamales”. film featuring latina performers…….And you accuse others of being racist.

    Mr. Pot, meet MR. Kettle,,,,he is black

  45. joe know Says:

    Justin,
    Perhaps you could use that college education and show me where I am making excuses for racism. I agree with you that it exists everywhere, but I am just pointing out how YOU are a willing participant in many the of the racist films made bythe porn industry. YOUR own mayspace page has one of these racist movies right on its FRONT page.

    Just for laughs Justin, why dont you provide a link to the name of all the movies YOU have been in, and then tell us how many of them have racist themes(maybe about 90%)

    Just for you Justin, big and loud

    RACISM IS ALIVE AND WELL IN THE PORN INDUSTRY, AND EVERYWHERE ELSE FOR THAT MATTER.

    AND YOU JUSTIN, HAVE BEEN DOING YOUR PART TO KEEP IT ALIVE AND WELL.(but hey, as long as the check clears, right justin?)

    You dont even see how this industry has been using you and others like you who will degrade their own people just for a paycheck.

    YOU ARE AS MUCH A RACIST AS YOU ACCUSE EVERYONE ELSE OF BEING, but youre even worse. You degrade your own people, and then go and cash the check that the white man gives you. Now i think I will go visit my uncle who lives in a cabin.

  46. Larry Horse Says:

    So a so-called degrading title like Oh No there’s a Negro in My Mom 2 is degrading to the black male talent, even though in that title we have Dirty Harry as a cuckhold and Johnny Thrust, amazingly well cast as a retarded person. I do find Thrust’s portrayal degrading to people who are developmently disabled and Dirty Harry’s degrading to retired Bus drivers.

  47. DevonMichaelsx Says:

    Well, I’ve just recently had the chance to get to know Justin through twitter and texts, and I’m one of his shoots that got cancelled.

    He’s right… it sucks to lose a job because of your skin color.

    Justin… I totally respect your stand and there’s no reason that black talent cannot be featured more predominantly in more “mainstream” porn. The scenes I’ve done with black talent have all been about two people having sex.. not race.. I did movies with Lex and Sean.. both were centered around them and featured women of different races… it wasn’t a black/white thing. I’ve worked with Tyler Knight a couple times and neither time were the scenes centered around race. I’ve never said no to a scene with black talent… now, I’m also not the type they book for the traditional “little white girl, big black guy ” scenes . I’m not a tiny 18 year old blonde :) I also have said that I would be uncomfortable shooting certain scenes that were focused on that because I feel like it is racist, at the very least, perpetuates stereotypes. Granted I’m not out to save the world, but I don’t want to add to the problem. I don’t fault talent that does the scenes though because , and especially if you are a black man in porn, there aren’t a lot of choices, and like Justin said… Half the time you don’t know what exactly you’re shooting for until it comes out.
    I didn’t know that all the beautiful scenes I did for big feature companies would end up in comps with derogatory names like “mexican taco lickers” .

    I like porn–I do it because it’s fun and I can make some money doing something I enjoy. That said, not everyone has the same opportunities in this business, and just recently I talked a good friend of mine out of trying porn. Why? Simple. He is black… he’s gorgeous, well-endowed, and probably could handle the pressure of doing a scene. However, I told him that the opportunities for black men in the industry are not that great , and with the porn slowdown, he’d be doing scenes that might not be , well, what he expected, based purely on the color of his skin.

    Anyway, as someone that enjoys performing AND watching porn, I would like to see more opportunities for black men besides just “ir”movies.

    Being someone that passes for many races, I’ve dealt with a small amount of racism. I’m adopted and all I know is that I’m part Mexican. Still I’ve been called derogatory names for black,mexican.. in anger. Just a handful of occasions… I won’t pretend to know what it’s like to deal with it on a daily basis.. in life or work. My skin color has become a huge advantage for me as a dancer as I look “exotic”. Still, what little I dealt with was disgusting and I feel for people that have to put up with that all the time.

    I do beleive it is every performers right to say no to any scene or company, even if that reason is racism, though don’t misunderstand… that’s a horrible reason… and I don’t support that way of thinking in the least. Still, sure it’s their right.

    And it’s Justin’s right to only work with black female talent if he sees fit. His being , of course, for the right reason.

    I’m sorry though, as I’d have liked to work with him.
    Devon Michaels

  48. gsincs Says:

    Porn industry has changed with the economy, I was reading an article when the recession was at it’s worst stating how females where stripping & going into the porn industry to make ends meet. But I guess heres where I’m going with this. Nobody (at least under the age of 30 who can browse the internet), really goes to the porn shop and buys movies anymore. Bootlegging is rampant in all industries not just music, and only the cream of the crop gets heard/seen and make a profit. People are just getting there media in different ways whether it be from a legit website that allows you to stream for free or bootlegging the movie for free through other means. The stars that I buy are people Like L.T, Brian Pumper, I remember in a Brian Pumper flick he kept screaming “Stop bootlegging my shit”. But the thing I like about Pumper is that he is marketable. I know when I purchase New Lil freaks Get it Poppin or Phatty’s Rhymes & Dimes or Gapeman series, I’m going to get a quality flick(not b/c of his rhyming skills either, but I do find them funny). Same thing with L.T’s flicks and Jake Steed back in the day. I would religiously buy his flicks because he always had new bitches or the finest hoes on deck. I’m not saying you need their gimmick but what I am saying is you need your own hustle. I’m a black man and it seems to me like your trying to blame the white man for whats going on in your pockets. I believe u that racism is going on, hell it’s on the box art like dude above said. Be the black dude that starts his own company hires his own broads and distributes his own shit like Master P and them used to do back in the day. My advice to U iz, take out a loan buy some quality equipment find some undiscovereds and some veteran black bitches, pay up, shoot it, cut the dvd, and keep it moving. I love Marie Luv, def my top three black mammas in the industry, put her ass on the cover, hell I will purchase it, trust me. I’m so glad she posted I literally jumped out of my seat(I luv u babe). U got too many fine new and veteran black bitches out here to be complaining about this shit. U already have a leg up b/c u already in the industry. So stop bullshittin and get your hustle on. I would be a loyal customer trust me.

  49. justinlong Says:

    Hay Joe,

    I gotta agree titles can be very racist in it’s language, but lets not you are a porn fan obviously. Obviously the public is the driver of porn titles. Sick little fantasies that people have and so the production companies title flms to what people have asked for. Blame porn buyers for that. Thats like calling paul rever a murderer and saying he started the damn war by delivering a message. True enough I’m on that box cover and notice I was working with a hispanic female and never called her one racist word that is so commonly used for mexicans. So guess the me being a racist is out. Good attempt to turn the tabels though. Talent half the time has no idea and has no way at the time of booking to find out what the end name of a movie will be called and when cut up and comped (as pointed out by a friend – whos white) so tell me exactly how WE know anything of the such that you are claiming.

    Thats like saying someone that works for lockheed who builds jet fighters is responsible for what the government does or doesn’t do with that jet fighter. Glad you agree with the most part of the article. However as a porn fans if you’re gonna talk about titles and degridation of races and genders then maybe you should include yourself in your little theory (whichis what it is theory or opinion however you want to classify it) because if a title didn’t sell it wouldn’t ever make it to market and in your computer or dvd. Too bad you don’t spend this much energy trying to help eradicate racial discrimination as pointing the finger for who causes it. However, like i said in the article WE black people don’t like that particular crap either. We know it’s bad and keeps this whole thing in perpetual motion, but some times in life choices are’nt so simple are they. So, should the guy at lockheed quit his job because he objects to a war that the aircraft he builds are used in? Hmmm put his family on the street and maybe be homeless, or should he speak up @ his company and take a stand and try to make change for the better? I’m not big into quitting because speaking out might cause some me some trouble. Maybe what you are sending me you should be sending to the companies of dvd’s you have sitting in your house. Thier addy is right in the 2257 info.

    DFuller77

    Wow, same rant huh? you haven’t quite got the picture yet have ya SON? LOL… I retired 7 months ago.. oh shit news flash.. LOL.. i came back and have been shooting with no issues. before I left i was yelling the same shit and yes in public son.. LOL notice i keep using the son? Yes, i know all the performers you mentioned personally. Not gonna get a bad word out of me about any of them. So, tell me if you are a fan, and never been in the movies but rather just jerked of to lex, marcus, tee, and tyler, then how do you know what the HELL you’re talking about? LOL.. I would make you a bet and LOL all the way to the bank but I wont change my position to appeaze one dude that thinks he kows what cracks off in porn and how shit work here in LA because you wack off to porn. I have no issues with you thinking I’m weak because when I start laying out movies with black girls only you will still be jerkin off to em. In fact if i wanted to shoot tomorrow I could. it’s cool though you assume what you want and I’ll know what I do. I love my fans and they have been nothing but supportive I got one piece of mail that was negative. I have been talking to non-black stars before and thru this entire thing and they all fully understand have have been supporting me in full. You have been wieghed and measured and been found to be lacking. I son have had a 12 year career in porn and if I never shot another scene that would be cool with me. What you are failing to see is I need NO company to shoot and release my own content. SO what job was that, that I was loosing? Life lesson you have to care in order to be hurt…

  50. DFuller77 Says:

    Hey news flash Justin, I stop watching black porn 10 years ago because it gotten wack as hell. I loved to watch IR and white on white porn these days. So you better started thinking about retirement son because nobody isn’t going to hire you sorry clown ass. someone will take your place and become even bigger. While Lex, Sean, and Marcus will still get big part in big compaines while you will be working at a Walmart making $9.50 hrs. BTW I had enough of this shit and my head hurt. Going to watch my NBA Playoff.

  51. Houstondon Says:

    It’s curious that some who would defend the women based on their choice to not do IR would also attack Justin on the same basis. You could sell it marginally better if you relied on CDC statistics as some have done with Christian (based on STD rates) but few buy that argument given the admittedly watered down testing process the industry holds so dear. Still, most straight porn is made with male consumers in mind, not women, so the male performers (aka: meat puppets) are not part of the equation most of the time. Some additional random thoughts on the subject:

    In terms of who are the top male performers most of the time, at least for the few who care, there are only a relative handful of white males too; the few that tend to come to mind amounting to less than ten out of hundreds of potential candidates. I care most when it makes a difference in the scene, some ladies who begrudgingly do IR do it with a chip on their shoulder, others that prefer blacks going all out when allowed to do so. A scene isn’t “better” due to race alone, only as a reflection of the attitudes of the performers.

    As far as using contracts to gauge racism, I’d like to know how many black women pursued them as aggressively as so many white ladies have in the past (even I’ve been asked to “put in a good word” for some). Heather Hunter and Dee come to mind for ladies but this is an area where men have done fine, at least as directors such as the black males working under contract at Evil Angel or Jules Jordan among others, still others like Richard Mann or Shane Diesel working as performers under contract. I asked how come nobody had signed Misty Stone to a contract and was told she turned down offers or was otherwise not interested, too.

    IR sells enough to justify making it but some of those big companies don’t really cater to IR markets very well. I strongly suspect they don’t want to alienate customers that have a strong dislike for IR outside of the occasional specialty title too but I’d like to throw out something to Justin since he jumped on population statistics (and whatever the US Census is known for, under counting blacks is not generally a problem given the multitude of ways to gather such information).

    If companies should feel obligated to use percentages of black males based on their numbers in society, why not extend that argument to fat people, ugly people, handicapped people, and/or every other niche one could dream up?

  52. justinlong Says:

    Houstondon,

    hay thanks for the comment and question. I agree. I was speaking to a BBW star last night and she was very heavy hearted because BBW’s do experience the same thing. I have no good answer for that as I am not a BBW and while i am simpathetic to thier plight and would stand behind them to accomplish goals they might set for and obviously do not discriminate and DO work with them, I have to be honest and say I haven’t sat down and actually thought about it a great deal. Some but not a great deal. You know I am a pretty compassionate guy and by character have always fought for the wronged and will always do so.

    Again thank you

  53. Houstondon Says:

    You’re welcome. If you’ve read any of my reviews, you’d probably know that the whole idea behind “interracial” is that people can be subdivided into different races when we are all part of the human race so it rubs me the wrong way.

    It is a shame that some producers and directors go out of their way to promote stereotypes, limiting the performances of some folks in order to perpetuate said stereotypes rather than get the best out of the couple (because “it’s what people expect…”).

    My personal range of what qualifies as attractive is broader than most (I’ve discussed this with folks that go so far to say a woman is washed up after a couple of performances and she should be able to score the cover of “Seventeen” magazine to begin with) but the line of reasoning, while understandable, is probably the weakest of what you are going for.

  54. jeremiahsteele Says:

    Wow. Congrats Justin. This might hold the LIB record for most comments and verbiage in less than 24 hours. It’s gonna take me a while to read it all and formulate my thoughts.

  55. justinlong Says:

    Houstondon,

    Hay I and I think I can speak for some anyway just want to thank you and everyone for thier opinions and comments. I don’t and would be concearned if everyone agreed with my take on this. True enough I have had white stars and black stars and hispanic stars hit me and say they are with me 100% after reading this and now I can even add company owners have hit me up and said they are with me 100%. I just want to say from the bottom of my heart that you are all amazing people wether you agreed with me or not like me or dislike me that is no matter. I just thank you all so much.

    jeremiahsteele

    Bro it’s been so long since we have seen each other and talked. By all means take your time and absorb it. No rush, this issue is going no where anytime soon. thank you for leaving a note and I will look forward to reading your opinion no matter what it is. Believe it or not I value every single opinion and comment that has been left. I’m not here to make enemies but rather shed light on a poor situation and get people to talk about it because that is where change begins.

    God bless you all and God speed – no exceptions

  56. Damien Says:

    Oy Vey, what a clusterfuck. OK, here is my take. I have been shooting interracial porn for over 11 years. Never once have I used the “N” word in any of my movies. I do not portray black men as thugs, rather choosing to focus on the eroticism and the taboo nature of interracial sex. Let’s face it, no matter open minded most people are, they will still double take when a black man and a white woman are seen in public holding hands.

    The biggest problem I have seen in the last 10 years is the stereotyping of black men by the adult companies. It is a line item on a profit and loss statement. Pure and simple. The more outrageous the title, the better it will sell, no matter how badly the genre is portrayed. Unfortunately what needs to change is people’s perception of the porn that is shot today. Take cuckold for instance. Most of it is shit. 10 years ago, with the exception of a few small companies, no one even touched this subject. Now we have exhausted all avenues of “normal” interracial sex and have started into the micro niches. Pure and simple, we are bored with what we see and it takes more and more to get us off. But we still continue to buy stuff that follows the same tired formulas.

    I fucking hate when I hear of a particularly delectable (insert race here) girl not wanting to fuck a black guy for this reason or that. Then six months later when the money sucks, she is doing double interracial anal for (insert random company here). Bottom line we all have to eat, but at least take a fucking stand for what you believe in. But like Justin referred to, many of the scenes shot are the same ghetto thug type shit or N***** lover that perpetuates the problem.
    I had a long talk with a nameless performer (name omitted on purpose) who had appeared in an interracial movie where the N word was thrown around at random. What I explained to him was the fantasy revolved around the girl having sex with a person that is considered less than human. It taps into that primal part of sexuality where an out of control beast is taking a woman for its pleasure. The N word is meant to shock people into a reaction.

    In reality it serves no purpose. Out of respect for the people I shoot, I have never asked anyone to use that word on set. BUT, if it is thrown out during a scene and the performers were both OK with it before the scene started, I would not edit it out. Am I setting a double standard????

  57. justinlong Says:

    gsincs,

    thanks bruh.. i’m with you and I’m already thier.. they aint out yet and it’ll take time, but thats a personal project more then it was ever suppose to be a revenue stream. I’ll tll marie you said hello.. LOL.. However, this yes is me writing and standing up but trust me I sorta made myself the sacrificial lamb if you will. I’m stupid like that if you will. make no mistake ALL black performers are screaming this and thats why you saw marie post on here saying the same things bruh. Sure we will put out stuff out and do all that, but that skirting the issue. The issue is the treatment we get at work. Trust me please when I tell you my concearns and agrivations over racial issues in the industry are shared almost 100% by almost 100% of all black performers. The bigger question you should all ask knowing this, is why you have’nt seen them on here agreeing because trust me they agree and many have written me saying they agree after having read this article, but I knew that already because I have been involved in discussions with most regaring this very topic.

    The fact is, is they have been conditioned by years of this treatment. I have always gone against the grain so to speak and thus had no guams calling black black and white white. This is nothing new to me to speak out publicly aout this issue. I have been yelling this for years and arguabley the ONLY one yelling this publicly. Now I got some sista’s hollerin with me. My reason for this is not personal gain even though most will try to say it is. My motive for this is to help the black people and make change or at least start the process to make change. It’s long over due. Now some would had rather it was done in other ways, but i’m a point a to point c type person. I dont care how it gets done and dont care if it cost me (i’m stupid like that) i just want it done. I have tried this time and time again in different ways but to no prevail so here we are. I feel you though but lets keep an eye on the goal which is racial equality for black stars in our work place. Thats not asking for the world. Mad Respect

    Devon,

    You rock. Thank you for not agreeing 100%.. hehe.. all I can say is I hope things change soon. Thank you so much for understanding and the un-wavering support.. you are an amazing woman.. nothin but love for you sweetie.. nothin but love..

  58. jeremiahsteele Says:

    Justin, you said regarding racism, “until entering the adult industry, I had never experienced it on such a massive level, and had to endure it on a day-to-day basis”.

    Could you be more specific? Is it because of the types of goofball stereotypical themes porn produces?

    Remember, porn is often degrading to all races.
    If you don’t want to work for companies which depict you, or blacks in general in ways you don’t like, then why not just ban those companies instead of getting racial?

    You are also contradicting yourself. On the one hand you say “The racism and discrimination needs to stop” and then you admit ‘Some will say “well you are being racist yourself in this decision”. I would have to agree’.

    The best way to preach is by example, but instead you make your creed “2 wrongs make a right”?

    Everyone is judged. Nothing is fair. Girls typically make a lot more than guys (maybe not gay guys). Why single out race? Is race the only case to face?

    And why aren’t there more whites in basketball? Who says white men can’t jump?

    Michael Moore wrote a book called “Stupid white men”. Like, WTF, is he racist?

    Gary Coleman can’t get dates, not because he’s short but because he’s black!

    This whole race thing, in ways, is silly. It’s superficial. If someone doesn’t like you for superficial reasons, do you really want to make them hire you or pretend to like you? Fuck them. Stay away. Let ‘em not know what they’re missing. But don’t take it out on people who really don’t give a fuck about what color you are. I didn’t create the “N’ word, and if I ever said it, it don’t mean I’m a racist or does it answer in what attitude, person, tone or context I’m speaking it. Let’s just stop letting the bullshit bother us. Lead by example, don’t retreat by imitation.

  59. jeremiahsteele Says:

    Hey Justin, I just responded but for some mysterious reason it got caught in “moderator approval required” mode, so check back.

    I was basically trying to ackowledge that you’ve spoken from the heart but maybe you shouldn’t let it completely rule your head. I don’t give a fuck about race. It would be sad not to run into you on sets, anymore.

    Anyway I was saying “Preach by example”. Don’t be the thing you don’t want to see. Be the change you want to see.

  60. justinlong Says:

    jeremiahsteele,

    LOL I have been thier for a minute before too.. LOL.. I hear what you saying bro. You know I have to say I had an issue with it to you know I love all the girls and I have to admit i just ador jessie jane.. wether she does IR or not and honestly Rebbeca Linares, has been my all time favorite girl I have ever got to work with (love her to death). You know I know it makes no since but the first thing to bringing a cause to light it to get publicity on that cause and I been yelling for years and in public and no one cared. I was left with really not very many options in my mind. I have to rely on faith that every girl I have ever worked with knows that I dont see the color of the girl rather just the girl as an individual.

    Will some girls hate me ? thats a possibility, but i am getting very overwhelming responses from girls and guys, and they understand what I am trying to do. Unfortunately us blacks have been preaching by example since the begining other wise none of us would ever work, but it has led us to here which aint a dam far sight from where we were even 5 years ago. True enough the industry is moving but I swear slower then cthe civil rights movement did (no i dont need numbers folks LOL).

    Sitting idolly by and keeping our mouth shut and not creating waves hasn’t get the black poeple to far. The public perception has made most of the change thus far. Amazing that people even care that i choose not to do IR now to tell you the truth, because they sure dont seem to care that 60% of the girls dont. Really wish people would expend thier energy harrassing them versus me, harrass the agents that start this brain washing in the girls not me. Maybe then the girls, and agents would cave to public ridicule and I could go back to my thing of just bangin girls and puttin out product.

    This aint easy for me. Shit my weakness is asian.. almost everyone knows that, but I love all girls. I would rather be in LA right now fuckin and gettin paid, but this issue needs to finally be addressed and I have takin it as a personal quest because honestly I can’t stomach it anymore. It’s annoying and coming from a white family my thought really is how dare these agents girls and comapnies. So here we stand. We are friends and always will be and if someone doesn’t want to be my frriend anymore after this then they probably weren’t a very good friend in the first place, but one thing can be said. people are talking…

    So i have already accomplished what I set out to do haven’t I? racial discrimination has never gotten this much attention in porn, and all from ONE black male talent saying NO IR… amazing cause girls do it every damn day.. LOL

    I’ve always liked you bro and always will.. remeber the days of sitting in world with darren, james, and mark, and JJ man those were some good times… mis ya bro and no worries we’ll catch up soon

  61. jeremiahsteele Says:

    Honestly dude, and I’m sure you appreciate me tellin it how I see it, whether I’m off on it, or not… You’ve said a lot but you need to say more because even though you said a lot it went all over the place, and so enough’s not been said, yet, I think.

    I would like to know and understand better without bringing up negative shit or causing problems with anyones, what’s so fucking negative about porn versus your life experience? That certain people aren’t getting work? Join the club, line goes around the building, down the street, down the corner. Some of them now may be sitting next to the illegals at Home Depots looking for extra income.

    Times are crazy. Obama’s “Hope” might have been just a “Nope” that somebody re-arranged in time for election day.

    I just want to be clearer. You need not name names, or what not.

    We’re all labeled things. Who cares? Do you think I care that Bill Margold calls me “The Squirrel”? Does it irk me mo(u)rning and night? Hardly. He can go on writing his movie reviews for those rags people buy when they want to rent a tranny.

    My point is, you should reconsider, but if not, are they hiring white guys?

    lol

    Well, speaking of going all over the place, maybe I should practice what I preach…

  62. justinlong Says:

    jeremiahsteele,

    DUDE you rock.. i loved it.. very simple two words… fair shake.. thats it.. a fair shake.. no more no less.. but as long as black are discriminated against, we wont be getting a fair shake. Sure we work.. no one is saying we dont.. and I kow the economy is crap but tube sites are killing us more.. I’m not claiming that blacks get no work, but can anyone really in thier heart of hearts say that blacks are getting a fair shake in the adult biz? nuh uh and even had a company owner hit me tonight and say so. peeps would be fairly suprised who it was too.. he’s a cool dude though known him for quite some time. A fair shake is all any black person has ever asked for, and with that if a black person cant succeed then at least then people could say that that was on them. They had a fair shake.

    Right?

  63. justinlong Says:

    LOL i’m still laughing with you on your post and at my spelling and dropped letters … man 1:30AM and my ass is tired.. peeps you have warn me out for the day. Tomorrow is a new day and I await your opinions and comments.. true enough I am educated but I think I need some refresher on spelling LOL.. Love you all and Jeremy, thank you again for the great post man.. i appreciate it and loved it.. you get 4 gold stars :?)

  64. DFuller77 Says:

    Hey new flash Justin, are you the same one who won’t worked with black woman and will do white woman. Damm which black porn movie will hire you. you are an dumbass and you made your bed and now you have to lay on it. the thing you said you haunt you back. You should just retire from porn for good, btw you are weak performer with those cukohold movie.You clown ass need to leave porn for good.

  65. newklear Says:

    “my aunt and mother only dated black men”

    Let me get this straight, a white woman who only dates black men is open-minded and not racist, while a white woman who is not attracted to them (she doesn’t even have to be exclusive to her own race, some non-IR girls do latinos, Asians…) is the evil racist that needs to be persecuted for her preference?

    “With growing up with my mother’s side of the family only I have always been around white people. My father was never around”

    Yet, it is clear from your post that white people are the evil “them” and black people are the good “us”.

    “I am NOT racist as I have stated and obviously could not be with a white mother and family. ”

    Obviously you can and obviously you are.

    “big companies refusing to shoot a fair percentage of content involving black talent”

    Black men are overrepresented in porn, not underrepresented. There are too few black girls and almost no latino/Asian guys… Oh and there are companies who ONLY shoot black men, Justin Slayer will never hire Christian just because his companie is all about “brothas” fucking mostly white hoes and Christian is white. Strangely, I don’t see you complaining about that.

    “We black people don’t like the movies that makes us look like we just degrade white girls either.”

    So now you’re also the spokesperson for all black people. Good to know though. It must be tough for those guys working for blackonblondes…hating their jobs so much.

    “They like our music, and love our food, and women but despise us, and will never look at us as equals, and this is the same conclusion drawn from some blacks in the industry when told “I’m sorry I don’t do IR, nothing personal though””

    You know what’s funny? It’s the “our women” mentality that makes some people hate IR porn.

    I could carry on with this for quite a while but I think that what I’ve already written will suffice.

    I think you’re only doing this because you no longer get hired enough to pay your bills. I think you’re not really being frustrated by discrimination per se (I don’t see you complaining about the fact that the women are expected to participate in homosexual sex, while the men aren’t or that the women are being payed much more for a scene than the men do) but by the fact that some white girls won’t fuck you or you won’t get payed for fucking them.

    I think you have no empathy for the “other side” which is why you’re unable to make any original or interesting point whatsoever and just keep repeating the same tired bullshit over and over again. You expect “them”, the white men, to give you “their” money and women just because “it’s 2010 and you served in the army” while you, a “brotha”, as you put it, are outraged that “they” dare to touch “our music, food and women”. Classic hypocrisy.

  66. DFuller77 Says:

    Hey Justin, you are going to killed IR porn with his you shit and you better fucking retire you ass clown. Nobody doesn’t want to hire your sorry ass. hey Walmart is still hire people aright so why don’t you just shut the hell up and just quit. BTW IR porn is still alive and well you fucking ass clown

  67. JamSta Says:

    It’s quite obvious that the school system failed with this DFuller77 character.

  68. Sure Bill Says:

    Justin, your a cool dude and good luck to you bro.

  69. Karmafan Says:

    I can’t speak for the black men in porn but I have found that there just aren’t many attractive black girls doing porn. Most are not attractive. There are many good looking black actors doing porn but the girls are ugly. Vivid doesn’t have any black girls under contract because there aren’t any that are really top class HOT.

    Some of the girls won’t do IR because they are afraid it lowers their value in the industry and they will lose fans if they do IR. I know Carmela Bing has refused to do black guys (on camera at least) for that very reason.

  70. justinlong Says:

    You guys rock…. even the people that want to bag on my mom’s and aunt.. bet your momma only fucked white dudes to so that make her a racist as well??? LOL.. funny see becuase i do feel for the black girls as well. As far as asian dudes, Mika tan held open casting for them for like a year for movies. Sorry i can speak intelligently about the entrance process for males as i entered the industry some 12 years ago. Took me more then 4 1/2 years to get an interview. I’m a single man peeps.

    Did MLK take on every damn injustice in the world at one time. NO.. White people aren’t the evil at all. Some are just very discriminatory just like some black are very discriminatory. Just like in every race some are discriminatory. I don’t fault anyone for thier views, but I think we all know discrimination is fundamentally wrong dont we.

    Second I wasn’t in the “army” so i think right thier we can see some people talk but don’t really know what they are talking about. it’s quite asy to critisize when you are sitting thier and we are sitting here. No, i dont speak for all blacks your dam skippy. Until they stand up and put themselves in harms way like marie and monica have then shame on them for wanting change and saying or doing nothing to make change. DFuller77 has become ammusing to me.

    Sittin at home jerking to dvd’s and thinking he knows whats going on in the industry LOL.. bro I got your point and you’re going to be saddened but IR companies stand to gain everything by me speaking out. Did you not read my comment saying that company owners have already contacted me say “we are behind you 100%” wake up bro. you personally might think I’m a “Weak ass” performer and thats fine bro. you aint conviencing people. LOL

    I’ve got litterally 1000 replies in other medias in the last 24 hours saying exactly the oppisite from people all around the fucking globe LOL.. Sorry no need for wal-mart… did you not read that I am a college graduate????? you sit here and bag on me but fail to realize that I have spoken at length with some of the same peopple you say are your idols and we are friends.. so you sit here and clown me (thier friend) and use thier names and you think you are showing them loyalty.. in the process every stupid (but important no opinion is in-valid to me) comment you leave derailing the actual conversation from it’s true cause (which is racial equality), and you thik you are helping them?

    please realize that these same people you name as your “favorites” feel exactly as i do. LOLOL and then you say you dont watch black on black but are black and then call me stupid right? Who do you think owned that product thier smart guy? your favorite performers!!! so i guess they have you and others like you to thank for them loosing money to put out etthnic product for you.

    I choose not to do IR to make a POINT.. Many and I mean many of my friend white black and other have already contacted me saying “we understand no worries” I’m not running around yelling fuck the whiteys… how stupid would that be when I’m part white myself.. LOL.. what i am doing is running around yelling FUCK DICSRIMINATION am i saying it in regards to discrimination against black ?? yes I am .. is thier other discrimination??? yes thier is. However, don’t you believe that I have bitten off a big enough battle? Am i the savior of the whole world? should I be fighting fo you because you wife is fucking someone else? Maybe I should be fighting against higher California unversity tuition as well at the same time????? give me a break.. LOL

    Notice not ONE single female that refuses to do IR has commented on this, but some of you sure in the hell think you need to speak for them. They aint deaf mutes. Not one agent or company owner has spoken out to give thier point of view as to why this racially discriminative behavior is be tolerated in thier company, or agency. However you fans are’nt questioning why? If theey have’nt done anything worng then why not come explain they have’nt done anything worng????? personally i think they are sitting thier reading this and thanking god, that some of you are of the same mind set as they are..

    you know some of these comments are so fraught with inconsistanties and mis representation taken out of context of what i originally wrote it’s funny.. Sorta a politician trick like clinton “depends on what the definition of “is” is. yet not one person has touched my query as to why all of a sudden people are up in arms when a black star chooses not to do IR, when girls (white, hispanic, asian ect) have been doing it since the begining of porn and do it daily. In fact girls have said today they will NOT do IR while I was writing this it’s that common.

    So why the big deal when a black man says no more IR. is the little balck boy not doing what the big white man wants??? man pull the log out of your ee beforre you try to take thee sliver out of mine ahy…

    Please some one give me a logical answer to that and lets try to stick to the subject at hand, not the fact that my mom and aunt went out with black men… good god what a cheap personal attack. I’m sure your friends and family are real proud of you.

    PS just for clarification my aunt has three kids two white and one mixed balck. She started dating black men after she divorced her white husband that use her as a punching bag after getting home from the bar. Hmmmm guess she aint a racist after all. Pretty hard to sell a white racist that likes and dates blacks in the first place.. whats she gonna do burn a cross in her own yeard and call her self a nigro lover.

    ,Lets stick to the subject folks if we can and enough of the personal attacks because I dont take words on a puter screen from some random person that can’t even use a real name as very personal or serious.. good god

    god bless and god speed

  71. RickMadrid Says:

    Very good article you wrote Justin!!!

  72. redgoat Says:

    “redgoat,
    Nice to see you. I have a st… of questions for you.
    And I havent been around because my M.S.was flaring up.”

    Wow. Threatening to say my last name.
    You’re a real warrior,Joe.
    Hope the M.S is the real M.S, and you are not being so tricky as inferring what my initials are.
    Because that would be oh so hurtful to me.

  73. joe know Says:

    Justin,
    Regardless of the shots Ive take at you here I must say that I agree with the vast majority of what you have said here. Racism is an ugly thing, and unfortunately it still exitsts and will continue to exist.

    But I have to give you credit for having the guts to put yourself out there and speak your mind. ,

    ANd Red, remember when you did the same thing to me on that other board, and threatened to track IP addresses and make real names putlic. What goes around comes around, and now its your turn. Dont dish it out if you cant take it. And thanks for confiming what I was only parially sure about.

  74. redgoat Says:

    I can take it Joe. Waaaahhhh, what I did on the other board. Waaaaaaaah.
    Print my real name, I dare you , big handicapped man.

    I know that you won’t.

  75. VEGETA007 Says:

    I have nothing but respect for Justin for the personal stand that he is taking on this matter of racism in his profession. I find it funny reading some of these comments here and on twitter that say he should quit or that he is going to kill all chances of working again when it is not a big deal for white women saying they will not do IR. I hope that since IR is such a big so called fetish that all black males should demand to be paid more to work with these no black women because Justin took this stand on his own now imagine if all black performers took the same stand if the companies wanted IR content then they would have to pay more just like they pay white women more for work. Justin you are now my favorite male star. Thank you for what you are doing.

  76. michellenjny@gmail.com Says:

    I apologize in advance if I am posting something that has already been communicated (I really just don’t have the time to read though 70+ posts…sry).

    This is the first time I am posting on any porn-related site and just felt VERY STRONGLY that I had too. (I am a regular reader of lukeisback since before Luke Ford left, Christian’s blog, XPT and that other dvdtalk site) FYI…I am a female consumer, bi-sexual, and probably not too experienced…but even though I lack experience, I love porn very much and use it as a regular part of my sex life.

    I was just thinking about this whole Ash…Br… thing the other day…I was wondering where do you draw the line between physical preference vs. being racist? That whole fresh prince story on TMZ…I was thinking about it b/c I really want to F**K her brains out, but I told my boyfriend not to worry about adding her to my “list” b/c she doesn’t fuck anyone who isn’t white.

    It seems to me that the issue is that everyone “says” (sp?) that they aren’t racist, or they just aren’t physically attracted, but they are not racist. Uhm…I might be naive, but how do you determine if it’s just a physical issue vs. actually being a racist bitch…. (also seems to be more of a female thing rather than male)

    I would never call someone racist or prejudice for saying “I only date brunettes” vs. dating blonds, redheads, etc. So…it’s sorta complicated…if someone REALLY isn’t racist, and just isn’t physically attracted to someone…well then I don’t have a problem with that. If someone doesn’t date skinny chicks, or if someone doesn’t date fat chicks…that isn’t necessarily prejudice. It’s a personal preference…so as a porn consumer…where do you draw the line in terms of whether or not someone is racist? I think probably many people are racist against anyone who looks “black”…but I also wanted to point out that is may not apply to every situation.

    I would like to think that porn stars are actually attracted to the people they fuck…but again that is likely naivete on my part. The other concern I have is what does IR even mean? I am what is known as “Guyanese” but….my racial background is a mixture of Indian (mostly), Chinese and African. So I don’t even fall into a specific category, as defined by American standards…I am American by the way. I have difficulty defining my “race” when asked, as it sounds like Justin does. It’s not a clear cut answer in today’s world.

  77. jeremiahsteele Says:

    It would be ironic Justin if you can’t get black on black jobs because you’re not black enough. And then what? Guy De Silva sometimes had this problem.

    Looks like Cindi finally approved comment #58 of mine. Strange how things go on automatic moderation and then we miss them.

    What do you think about the fact that most male talent get paid less than females? That’s called sexism, but I’m not gonna remedy it by getting a sex change or doing b/b scenes.

    I honor how you feel in this fucked-up and unfair world but I don’t know how your IR boycott will improve or change things.

  78. themouth Says:

    what fucking year is this 2010 or 1910? really this is porn, why is this so serious? Devon Michaels um what was ur point? Monica Foster, um werent u dating (or still are) Scott from All Media Play. a white guy!!!! Really people know ur fucking facts b4 speaking.Its a lot of factors besides the girls and 1 major factor is that IR porn isnt selling! Also that the degrading IR porn is made by BLACK COMPANIES…Justin how many “Little Red Rides the Hood” scenes did you shoot? Your mom-aunt-dog-mail man-bank teller and so on all being white has NOTHING to do with this topic. and really, going on a internet board with this? How about giving ur story to AVN or XBIZ? How about if this is a SERIOUS ISSUE, then getting Marcus, Lex, Sean, Tyler to speak on this? Um they wont cuz it doesnt bother them. Lets see, the AVN are held in a nice venue as are the XBIZ awards but the Urban X held at a night club? Might as well hold them at KFC!

  79. Larry Horse Says:

    Steele, Margold calls you a squirrel, take it as a badge of honor from that bloated never was leech hack advocate of porn. Kudos to Devon Michaels, who I hope the younger girls take a look at and see how she has managed herself. Put her in that group with Julia Ann, Rayveness and from what I’ve read Monica Foster, who all seem to live their lives with moderation and class. Too many girls will end up like the peers of the ladies I mentioned above…Ginger Lynn, Janine, Amber Lynn and so on.

  80. Sure Bill Says:

    What black companies are still shooting? DVD companies are dying and the top four internet companies don’t shoot black on black.

  81. JohnnieMontecito Says:

    Justin congrats on taking a stand. I personally think you should rally your friends and other black performers, you should all take a stand. For to many years adult has let way to many of it’s issues slide if that is testing or condoms or even lending it’s support to companies facing charges for content issues.

    I honestly wish that all new performers where required along with the hiv testing to get a mental evaluation. With the requirement that they pass. I think this would save many men and women many issues. Yes it would limit some on talent but it also would create a better work place and I think a larger more qualified work force. It would also give the appearance of a bit more of a legitimate side of the industry.

    I think by doing this we would also have much less prejudiced in the industry and a much more well rounded group. If you want a better industry the only way to do it is with the help of everyone. It will also take the participation of the studios and the distribution networks too.

    I also think that drug testing is a must. Along with random testing also. It seems pointless to test for hiv and then have a drug environment. By doing many of the things I have mentioned the stigma of adult would be much lighter. Which will help bring in many talented people that would not normally consider adult as a career path.

  82. jeremiahsteele Says:

    Porn attracts all types, Larry. I’ve never taken him very seriously (although he takes himself serious enough to compensate for rest of the entire world’s indifference), since he told me “Jeremy” is not a masculine enough stage name (that happens to be my real first name, so I guess I’m not masculine enough. Boo hoo. I’m crushed) and that “the best thing Savannah ever did was DIE!”. I’m sure the family and friends of the late Savannah would love to hear such sympathetic sentiment, especially coming from someone living off a “foundation” to “help porn stars”.

  83. justinlong Says:

    Thos were some great answers poeple. I love it. PS this is getting picked up by other several news sources so the issue is not going away nor has my resolve to continue in my efforts to bring this
    issue to light and get people talking about it.

    I would like to adress jeremy….

    Well i think a part of the guys body has to change but both the male and female obviously put in work. The girl on the other hand is thier hours before in make-up most of the time and has the un-daunting task of pretty girls which can be painfully long and very tiring in its self even just watching.

    I dont think thier should be a huge gap but I do think that girls deserve more. I think the major part is just that guys nor girls should be geetting low-balled with $300 scenes. After all the fact is, is that unless (and even with but obviously lower) its a condom scene, WE the talent white black or other (no offense but alot of races here) are betting with our lives each time we shoot. That in it’s self deserves compensation. Let alone the actual work we do.

  84. robcomet1 Says:

    I’m in complete agreement with you. Its admirable for you to be making a stand on this issue. I hope to see more African American performers follow your lead. “Strength in numbers,” as they say! My best to you man!

  85. jeremiahsteele Says:

    Fuck that. In Europe, the guys would make more than the girls. And girls usually spend all the extra money they make, anyway. And If they want I’ll give em pretty girl shots. They can photograph my winking anus. You’re right. We’re putting ourselves at no less risk but for much less money. And without a hard cock, what kind of boy/girl scene you got? Nada lotta. What about the shit the guys gotta go through rubbing their nub up against a girl’s sponge or keeping hard while the girl is grinding your organ, the camera man has technical difficulties or the actress spazzes out? You think it’s easy getting and keeping a hard cock with a bunch of lookie loos and coming on cue with all the riff raff that goes on sometimes? When’s someone gonna shoot “The Jeremy Steele Experience”? I’m being discriminated against, dammit!

  86. justinlong Says:

    Jeremy LOL.. nah I feel ya.. LOL.. but i still realize it’s a female driven industry.. most guys wanna see the girl .. well never get paid equal to girl but i have been fairly equal with girls pay and i know some guys that get paid more than the average girl. however those are fairly rare cases and always depends on the girl. What about black girls getting paid less then white girls almost always even on the same shoots? now that way worse.

    Were guys were gonna make less but back in the day per one of my agents who knows (jim south) you know guys use to make more and the gap was much smaller. However i have seen it very commen, that certain girls have this ridiculous b/g rate and then for budget they always cut the damn male performers rate to pay the girls ass raping rate scene.. I know some girls are reported getting 2k a scene for straight b/g…. Obviously the girl’s are white.

    I dont know for certain but I doubt very seriously and almost know for fact that NO black girl in the industry today is getting anywhere near that for a b/g scene.. So thats really jacked as well.. and that was courtesy info from one of the top black girls in the industry.

    True enough guys have stress during the shoot that the girls do not have to worry about due to genital differences. true enough with crazy shit and all that happens on set.. Keeping wood is the work and very much not always easy.. LOL

  87. justinlong Says:

    Rob,

    Thanks so much for the message and god bless bro.. A stand up guy you are .. much respect..

  88. justinlong Says:

    Just FYI the original Savannah that passed, was what really made me want to come in the industry.. saw a film with her.. raquel darrian, randy west, peter north I think and others and I was like wow…. Savannah was gorgeous..

    true story .. felt so bad for her and her family.. LA fucked that girl up good.. I think i remember actually shedding a tear for her… real shit.. Being in the industry and knowing her story a little bit.. I felt real bad for her and her family like i said.. anyway.. just wanted to share

  89. marsit Says:

    WTF!!!!!!! I cant even construct a decent fucking thought. I mean its quite obvious that these practices r condoned.N it takes fans n performers as a whole to flip da bird n say this isnt tolerable this is some bullshit

  90. thickassviola Says:

    I fully understand your decision. The fact is, the entertainment industry in general is blatantly racist, and that’s definitely not limited to the adult industry. Sad as it may be, I don’t see that ever truly changing. That being said, it’s up to each individual who has any part in entertainment to stand up for what they believe in. Basically… Stick it to ‘em. I commend you for taking a stand, and although things will never be colorblind and prejudice free in any areas of the industry, courageous people like yourself still inch the struggle closer and closer to the equality that should exist. Whether in the adult film industry or standard corporate America, people still can make a difference if they take a stand for their beliefs. Hopefully someday these things will change, until then… Stick it to ‘em baby!

  91. MonicaFoster Says:

    Commenter #78 – you are the biggest idiot EVER. Firstly, yes up until a month or so ago I was dating white guy who works in the porn industry, but it was not Scott from All Media Play (he’s a nice and creative person any woman would be lucky to date, but I tend to go for more of the rocker type) – it was someone else so if you’re going to name names, at least get the name RIGHT.

    Secondly, I and most likely no other black person posting on this thread is racist, so why WOULDN’T I interacially date?!?! Simply because a person NOTICES and TALKS about others being OBVIOUSLY racist, it doesn’t mean that they are racist themselves.

    I don’t hate white people. Justin Long doesn’t hate white people. Marie Luv doesn’t hate white people, and most likely neither does any other black person working in the porn industry. We see PEOPLE as PEOPLE. The only people who obiovously DO NOT see people as people are the people who have a problem casting black people in their studio’s features regularly, who don’t sign black contract stars in over a decade, and who have a problem working with black talents on camera!

    There’s an easy solution to all of this, if certain white people in porn want to say “No Blacks Allowed” then just put out a press release stating exactly that, and who you are. Ohhhhh I forgot you can’t, because just like in the days of the KKK marches, whites who are racist are STILL cowards and want to remain anonymous (just like the racists on this comment thread who want to claim that Justin’s op/ed is simply “sour grapes”).

  92. joe truth Says:

    Here are some quotes from previous posters on this thread.
    1. “The only people who obiovously DO NOT see people as people are the people who have a problem casting black people in their studio’s features regularly, who don’t sign black contract stars in over a decade, and who have a problem working with black talents on camera!”
    So if a studio does not sign blacks they are racist?
    Well I guess so much for free choice if your a business owner.
    2.”Ohhhhh I forgot you can’t, because just like in the days of the KKK marches, whites who are racist are STILL cowards and want to remain anonymous (just like the racists on this comment thread who want to claim that Justin’s op/ed is simply “sour grapes”).”

    Sad that you demean what people of color went through fighting for basic equality and civil rights. We are comparing the treatment blacks went through in the civil rights movement to getting cast in a PORNO? WOW!
    3. If you have to proclaim…”I don’t hate white people. Justin Long doesn’t hate white people. Marie Luv doesn’t hate white people, and most likely neither does any other black person working in the porn industry. We see PEOPLE as PEOPLE.”

    You are a disingenuous. You might as well say. I have white friends. Just like the racist whites that proclaim, Hey I have black friends. You are a very angry person and your passive aggression is very transparent.
    Please understand that in a free society you can not dictate to others what “YOU” want them to think, spend money on and , or the choice one would make with THEIR BUSINESS THAT THEY INVEST THEIR OWN MONEY IN!

    You have no right to dictate to another free American what they can or cannot do in that regard.
    If you want open your own production company up and spend your own money and shoot what you want to shoot. The consumers will dictate your success.
    So just put your money where your mouth is.
    Because if your playing the tired old race card or beating that dead horse of bullshit called “political correctness”. Your an idiot. When you are desperate and the facts are not on your side. Just call people names and cast dispersions because that is all you can do.
    Remember this, Political correctness means to lie and deny the truth to accommodate emotions. Last time I checked this is business nothing more nothing less. We here in porn valley make fuck movies for people to jerk off to. Sorry if you fools out their have delusions of grandeur. Deal with it and that’s the truth.

  93. hugeorganicveg Says:

    i don’t understand….since you’re half and half…are you refusing to shag black girls or white girls??

  94. justinlong Says:

    No Joe Truth,

    the truth is, is that porn is probably the last work place in america, where daily out in the open EOE law doeas not exist and is NOT in forced.. EOE law isn’t dependant on the type of job you have or the industry you’ren in. Next you be saying that a home oeners assoc. has the right (since home owners are a group of FREE AMERICANS)to say they want no one other then thier race living in thier community.

    Your rants in them self devide racial lines, and support our very arguemnet. That people like yourself exist, saying that just because someone owns a company they dont have to be an EOE. Speaking of calling the kettle black. Oh wait i think it was you who did already, right?

    You know your right it is the same old race card, and guess what joe it’s because it’s the same old racist bullshit. Just because people are STILL calling George W. Bush an idiot doesn’t negate the fact the George W. Bush was an idiot. Just as just because blacks struggle for racial equality has been going on for decades, doesn’t make it any less of a valid argument when racial discrimination rears its ugly head today.

    You’re damn skippy its thier company, and they should be able to do whatever they want, but racial discrimination MOst certainly is not one of em and that why thier is such thing as EOE law because guess what Joe thier is racial discrimination in the work place and has been ever since blacks were ALLOWED (not that we should had ever been NOT ALLOWED). You know the more I read you rants (because they are opinions and i would be willing to bet that iether A. you are a fan that has no real day to day insight of the industry minus talking to girls on twitter you jerk off to or from reading the great blogs regarding porn like this OR B. you are in the industry and are sitting at a company or are a producer or talent yourself that refuses to work witth black people. I will tell you hear and now that I know FOR FACT you are not a producer that shoots black or are black yourself. Otherwise you would have the balls to sit here and try to throw talent that you are friends with back to the stone age by saying just because someone put thier bloos sweat and tears into building a company that they should have the right to racial discriminate in thier hiring practices.. No one has called you names Joe.. but you yourself called an entire demographic of people an idiot for what Myself, Monica, and Marie have said.

    you said “Sorry if you fools out their have delusions of grandeur”

    Hmmm see even us FOOLS can pull your trick and grab a single sentence and pull racist words outta your mouth.

    heres anotha : “We here in porn valley make fuck movies for people to jerk off to.”

    Whos “WE” Joe. Stand up and be counted. I’m sure if you shoot black talent (which I have already bet you dont) would love to know who you are and what company you supposedly work for, so next time you call to book one of us “FOOLS” (your words not mine) can tell you exactly where to stick YOUR obviously racist views (but still glad you have an opinion – now just take the hood off)and you weeak ass rate scene.

    If you are in the Valley actually workin “IN” the industry then dont look now JOE but your rants are why I wrote this. Your line of thinking is the line of thinking that keeps black at the bottom of the totam pole where all the top white company owners want us. Your thoughts process JOE are what kept poor old TOBY out in the COTTON fields for a decade, and what kept blacks at the bac of the bus.. I’ll prove it.. back in the day bus services were individual owned sometimes so they “are a free american and we cant tell them what to do” so they were allowed to tell brothas and sistas they could only sit in the back of the bus. Better for us I guess cause then you wont see us comin whe we knock your racist ass out.

    “You are the problem JOE.. and your arguement has been wieghed measured and found lacking”

    Maybe us poor old N^%^&&ers shold start working for the tera patricks of the world that want to make money off black but would be damned if she ever had one in her.. your rant is weak .. come up with something new, cause your argument is an insult to all non-rasict peoples intelligence…

    Do us all a favor black white asian latin ect… Go home.. get your hood… light the cross in your front yard warning off ni^%%ers from your property (cause you are a free american and can dislike people you think are inferior obviously)and then go back inside.. open your cutains so you can see your proud creation of that burning cross real big and clear.. ready for it… “AND WRITE SOME NEW SHIT” calling the kettle black “YOUR RECITING WORD FOR WORD THE ARGUMENTS GIVIN TO DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING”

  95. justinlong Says:

    Joe Truth

    Oh yeah then you go back outside and throw your hood in the fire and come out of the shadows and take a stand and say you’ll hire no more “FOOL” (your words not mine .. re: my last post for your quote) black folk if they don’t agree with you, but then again I bet you don’t do that either cause you probably make money off the poo old negro too, and in the confines of white friends to you we too are probably NI^%%^&%ers. That’s what I as a black person see from your post and rants

    Just my thoughts.. hmm i am a free American (and I KNOW i earned that thru military service (how bout you)- if it was EVER a right to earn in the first place)

    AND I’M STILL yelling you have your right to an opinion (see the 1st amendment) but you don’t have the right to discriminate (see the fourth Amendment I believe).

    Rock on with your comments it’s easy to prove the truth I can go all day. EOE is law not opinions…

  96. jeremiahsteele Says:

    Sometimes I get the distinct feeling that I absolutely don’t matter to people as I pass them by. Sometimes the sentiment seems even worse than that. Is it because I’m white? I turn on the t.v. but it’s not me. I thought I’d be a big movie star by now, dining in exclusive restaurants, telling people to “have your guy call my guy”. Sigh. The phone rings but it’s just a fucking telemarketer. I’ve decided to boycott this planet and become sterilized.

    I believe man’s mind has been infected with racism ever since we started reading the Adventures of Huckleberry Finn. How’s that for a porn: Not Huck Finn XXX?

  97. President4Life Says:

    michellenjny@gmail.com Says:

    “I would never call someone racist or prejudice for saying “I only date brunettes” vs. dating blonds, redheads, etc. So…it’s sorta complicated…if someone REALLY isn’t racist, and just isn’t physically attracted to someone”

    I get that, but as Justin said earlier, all of the girls who are fuckin Ron Jeremy aren’t necessarily “attracted” to him. Porn isn’t necessarily about who you are attracted to, is it? It’s a job

    These are people who solely making decisions based on not even skin color, but the political context of race. Guys who are Cuban and Puerto Rican and Dominican often have just as much African blood in them as say an American brother, but aren’t considered Black because of the language they speak and maybe aren’t considered “Black” in the context of America, so it’s not considered “interracial” in the same context.

    Also, how far would a new girl be able to go if she were to say, “I won’t fuck a blonde or brunette or a guy with blue eyes or brown eyes”. How much success would she be able to achieve?

  98. Larry Horse Says:

    That actor who calls himself Nat Turner still around? I found that offensive, it would be like Banger T Washington, Barack Obangya, Malcolm XXX, Rosa Sparks being used as porn names.

  99. ravenalexis Says:

    Discriminating against people is wrong in my opinion, period. Whether it’s based on the color of their skin, their sexuality, you name it. I support Justin’s stand, and my hope is that people in the adult industry will become more accepting and loving of others as time goes on. After all, we are the ones that everyone else stereotypes and discriminates against, so why would we want to do that to anyone else in turn???

  100. ButtaflyAzz Says:

    I commend you for coming forward with this. We are here for the FANS anyway, keep your head up hun.

  101. justinlong Says:

    Jeremy,

    i get your point and please believe me I dont think white latin or any nationality man is doing better today from even 2 years ago. I know thier is also such thing as reverse racism and it’s directed soley at white, eroupean, latin and asian males and i’m sure not justifying that either.

    Not on my watch.

    I think black shooting companies should be shooting non-black males more. But the black shot stuff is a miniscule in product compared to the non-black owned company product volume. Bottom line the financial,and publicity loss is very small in comparison but thier non the less and is wrong.

    Also on the flip non-black males get web content which is where the industry is, with the top girls in the world for free, so now coming into the web age blacks are even at a further disadvantage both in the publicity and financial end.

    Again I think tblack owned companies should be shoting non-black males. I’ve always rallied for my firends, didn’t matter the color.. you know me!!!!

    I have spoken out to company owners and friends in the industry to that exact effect. Most of the top white, eroupean, and asian male stars in the world I am proud to call my friends. I dont think most people are racist. Those guys earned through hard work thier spots. However they had a little help called lack of disrimination.. they dont argue that..

    Alot of white male performers have hit me up already and or told me in the past they feel for black males plight in the industry. Alot of non-blacks feel us and are right with us. Look @ Devon Michaels above.. she’s a rock in this fight.

    The fact remains for one reason or another that an individual becomes bigger then another in entertainment for various logical, unknown and stupid reasons. All colors abound.

    However, even you will have to admit that if a person restricted by color or race, is not permitted to the tools needed to reach the masses. Then that restricted person will probably never be a star !!!!! correct?

    So, now knowing that you can’t do anything but conclude that if a black talent is restricted (which is happening and beyond reproach- proof – girls doing IR or not.. that simple.. and we all here what certain agents tell girls.. it’s no secret) then the ones that are let in the “club” can only be construded as “token”.

    Has it gotten better in the last years ????? yeah .. marcus and Byron finally got their hall of fame awards.. but even thier, non-black girls that had been in less time and shot less movies had already been inducted (last time I checked byron came in years before jenna jameson) hmm wonder how that happen???? Who’s Byron Long? Only one of the most kown black male performers in the world duhhhhh.. (not that you yourself didn’t know- just saying)..

    Jeremy you keep using yourself as an example but i have higher sight hear then other cause I know you personally, and bro.. YOU AINT THE GUY I”M TALKIN ABOUT.. Unless you think its actually fair that girl get to discriminate and say no male talent of a certain race, and that its fair that the biggest studios shoot nothing involving black talent in real contrast to white on white.

    Is it about money ???? yep.. thats why they trying to successfully use black rappers and hip-hop artist to help pedal thier movies.. and white on white movies.. LOL… man these big companies are using black people to make more money left and right but giving us no REAL work and acting like we are freakin best friends and thiers a great relationship going.. LOL come on man.. I’d like to see even thier real employee (like office and accounting and booking) count and % base, cause i dont see that many black in those jobs. Red Light who i have absolute loyalty for when poppin had mad employees and directors and crap. I saw almost NO black actual office employees.. but I’m just saying.. bet their alot more and when I think of it I know thier are alot more.. hard to use black folk when you only dealin with white folk aint it.. you want people working for you that will relate and NOT call bullshit Like i have done here..

    Jeremy you rock and I think you would refer me to a director (and I think you have) just as much as I would refer you (which I know I have, as well as other non-blacks)you aint the problem, but fact is some of the people you ork for are.. sorry but it’s the truth.. same with me.. thats why no IR.. No more.. no fair shake no negro.. I aint gonna help them make money while they shaft us the other 85% oh i’m sorry we’re 13% so it would be the other 87% of the time we get the shaft..

    Much bigger number isn’t it.. if you go off those figures from cencus that mean that the studios if correct DONT shoot blacks 87% fo the time.. hahah and thiers no racism ??? LOL

  102. jeremiahsteele Says:

    No Justin, No Peace!

    I’m just gabbing for fun here on LIB because I’m not into twitting (btw, nobody who constantly posts on twitter has the right to say I’m an attention starved loser because I post a lot on LIB).

    And I know you don’t have me in mind regarding racism so you don’t have to tell me that. lol. That’s why I have no discomfort in having fun with the subject, even while I respect how you feel and I feel for ya.

    I’m still not sure what you expect to achieve by this IR boycott. Should you put out a “calling all bruthas” bulletin “Stop fucking whities”? I doubt you’re gonna get too many flocks of followers.

    I can’t forsee this conversation happening:

    Black#1: “Where the white womens at?”
    Black#2: “I don’t know and I don’t care. I ain’t fucking white women no more. Thanks to Justin I’ve seen the light”.

    In an ideal world blacks and whites, women and men would get paid the same, but guess what? This world is far from ideal.

    I blame the Godless greed of Capitalism. Capitalism is Crapitalism. And we all should stop buying and wearing Nike shirts or any brand that employs sweatshop labor in 3rd world countries!

  103. justinlong Says:

    Jeremy LOL,

    Ok you all over the place but True enough racism is everywhere. Thank you for acknowledging and feeling the struggle WE black performers are going though. I realize racism and discrimination is everywhere, but I’m not trying to save the world. I’m concerned with MY WORK PLACE. That is nothing different then any other american in any other industry.

    What do I “Hope” to accomplish???????????

    I ALREADY DID ACCOMPLISH IT!!!!!!!!!

    I have been on the phone non-stop with some of the biggest black names in the industry over the last 55 or so hours and always before and recently too..

    I saw your 2 options and trust me options are much more extensive and deeper then that. LOL.. you and others not in the fray have no clue how deep..

    All agree with my exact writings above and then some. We overwhelmingly agree and see eye to eye.

    What did I want to accomplish, you ask???????

    ************************DISCUSSION***************************

    and i have accomplished it huge…!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    The industry is burning right now. Everyone is talking about it. I was getting calls from company owners within the first 15 hours…. we are published all over and picking up more media outlets daily.. this ain’t going away.. LOLOLOL.. the pressure and the discussion is ON now….. fans and stars alike around the globe see the bullshit for what it is now.. fans you ask??? yeah the porn consumers and guess what.. they ain’t all 40, white and male that only want to see white on white after all.. in fact that fan told me he doesn’t care what nationality or color the dude is..LOL

    OH AND STUDIOS _____ women are pissed .. they want to see more of the guy.. oh and the gay and bi fans that you are neglecting daily in straight porn____________ want to see more of the guy as well___________ Guess porn AINT all about the girl.. unless they can fuck themselves with a REAL cock..

    Change starts with shedding big light on a problem no matter how big or small the problem it has to be identified and light shed on it.. THATS BEEN DONE

    .. I have already had multiple offers to write …. for media’s…… an on going segment of this exact topic “Racial Discrimination”.. LOL yes I will use word check… hehe..

    Thanks again for the great comments bro.. Really appreciate it..

  104. jeremiahsteele Says:

    I’m happy for ya, man. Hopefully it will effect some actual change and not just be something that’s getting you a lot of attention and publicity for a stint of time.

    I grew up on Long Island and there were virtually no blacks where I lived, but I remember hanging out and trying to talk with one I met and he seemed really angry at me and to not like me for no reason. I never took it personally, but in retrospect have a better understanding.

    I also used to be amongst the bleacher creatures at Yankee Stadium in the 80s and used to be part of the ruckus. I remember one time cheering when the Yanks scored and high fiving another guy, who was black. A black lady came over to me so happy that we were celebrating with each other and said that she was waiting to see such a thing. I was kind of confused about it, and had never attached any meaning regarding a person’s worth based on their skin color. But I’m glad I made her happy and set an example without even knowing I was doing anything special. I once got a wave hello from Dave Winfield in the outfield and was stunned. He was my favorite Yankee those days, along with Don Mattingly.

  105. allbymyself2011 Says:

    bad example using rappers when blacks couldnt get a deal master p said fuck it produced, marketed, and distributed his OWN content and created a hundred million dollar empire he didnt try to fit in or whine about it n i could site others

    u want it take it

    good product sells, u dont make billions of dollars by making the wrong decisions and if its not broke u dont fix it 87% vs 13% so 1 black out of 6 or 7 whites in a flick is representative

    once a brand is established and its publicly traded u dont fuck with it PERIOD its now a machine build ur own machine n do what u do i still dont get why u wanna break bread with people who dont want to break bread with u

    if i can qoute pac

    “If you know in this hotel room they have food every day and I knock on the door. Every day they open tha door to let me see tha party, let me see that they throwin’ salami, throwin’ food around telling me there’s no food. Every day. I’m standing outside tryin to sing my way in- “We are weak, please let us in. We’re weak, please let us in.” After about a week tha song is gonna change to, “We’re hungry, we need some food.” After two, three weeks it’s like “Give me some of tha food! I’m breakin down tha door.” After a year it’s like, “I’m pickin’ the lock, comin’ through the door blastin.” It’s like, “I’m hungry.” You reached your level, you don’t want any more. We asked ten years ago, we were askin’ with the Panthers, we were askin’ in the Civil Rights Movement. Now those who were askin’ are all dead or in jail, wo what are we gonna do?

    stop askin and take whats urs by any means necasaary about it dont ASK master if you can work create ur own work

  106. jeremiahsteele Says:

    “take whats urs by any means necasaary” – that sounds scary allbymyself, but some like that sort of thing.

  107. justinlong Says:

    allbymyself2011,

    I like your analogy I remeber that movie but cant put a name to it… LOL

    But on the flipside… blacks use to not be able to sit in the front of the bus or go to public schools. Sure blacks could had and did start thier own schools, and maybe (I’m not sure) started thier own city style bus lines. But then the government and Dr.king came in and said, Blacks are being deprived civil rights if in fact they are denide the same education, transportation, AND employment opputunities as whites and other nationalities… in this case it’s called EOE…

    NOW knowing that…

    No one is saying that blacks shouldn’t own thier own product and companies and “ALSO” in act change that way. You hollerin what we already know and do as a race. Man i don’t know when you came in the game, but homies been hear for well over a decade.. and they doing what you yelling and we are still here in fairly the same looking conditions in the work Place..

    I aint gonna mention no names but black stars that own companies… man a very small percentage and I mean small A.) even have the money alone to hire females let alone male balck talent to be in thier movies. B.) as business people choose to perform in thier movies themself instead of pay other talent thier gender.. So young bucks and ladies in the industry of color aint even getting paid work thier and forget to the extent of top companies hiring non-black for thier stuff.

    However….

    What you are saying by saying screw the big companies quit fighting and just go do your own thing.

    Thats no different then Dr. King saying they wont let us ride in the front of the buses, so we build are own and just ride in them. Man it’s wrong we know but we wont never get know where by sticking together and fighting and speaking out so we’ll just go do are own. damn well we tried..

    we aint gotta do that cause the law and government and Dr. King already did it for us with civil rights and barring companies just like these from hiring and giving contracts on basis of skin color or race among other things.. It’s the law.. plain and siomple.. just aint no one inforcing it because we are porn not microsoft. Make no Mistake..

    let microsoft keep a white female employee hired after publicly saying she wont work with a black person on a project because they are black, and actually let thier be mad proof like in this case..

    Man if that was to happen it would be THE biggest EOE discrimination lawsuit in the history of EOE law, and Microsoft would loose… the law can not pick and choose what Employment industry it is otherwise it would derail EOE law. The law regarding EOE can not be a case by case depiction and interpritation of the law. I would argue strongly it’s NOT as well. So thier for if agreed EOE is president regarding employment even in the adult industry, andd the law is NOT followed even close.

    SOrry but I dont see the white and black line that says you CAN”T do both. The big companies did shoot IR and alot in the day ( they made quite a pretty penny off blacks), but thier was also a power house white owned ethnic company that all the big studio had to compete against called Video Team/Afro-centric.. yeah thats gone.. sold / then managed wrong (or just bad luck) and ect….. now back as Metro which use to be a big ass company that shot IR Metro which was even basically shut down for a minute to thier credit they are shooting blacks now again and I dont think had ever stopped even when beign bought by new owners or whatever and all that…

    But they aint no compition to the big studios shooting mostly non IR adult.. So the top companies get to not have to realy even work hard to compete.. one or two big features with a black guy or two and they got most of these companies smoked as far as product sold and publicityn cause they got the masses, the money and got a couple contract girls that WILL actually shoot with some studio selected black male performers..

    they just doin what the’re told and some do and some probably dont like it but aint saying shit cause the studio payin the girls bills and boguth her house and benz, and send her around the globe ect thru contract money from the studio.. So they shuttin up and taken it within reason..

    We feel ya man but we know we got to do our own thing and are. Me personally .. remeber I bounced for five 1/2 years do to injury and life in general.. I cam back andd shit was the same.. not saying I new all the ins and outs from the first stint in the game.. But I been here solid, dong porn full time needing no other job for years now, and I’m here to tell ya bro .. you are right I agree, but this aint a fght that we can just walk away from.. to much on the line and the very survival of real numbers of blacks in porn..

    If we ONLY did what you wanted… you would be able to cont all the real black porn stars in the world.. cause I aint talking about girl doin cam in thier room and thats it… I’m talking about features and pro-am gonzo ect.. man thier would be less then what the numbers are now.. which is bleek bruh.. we feel you but you need to see that you got to feel us too…

    I can alreaddy tell you aint in the SFV mainstream porn game.. not insulting but if you sittin i NYC or DC OR MIami man you aint exp. on your end what it is here guaranteed.. what was the rate (for real) that you paid to the last black female and male talent.. if you aint in LA I can almost guarantee you it’s not LA rate so not being here you already ahead opf the game cause your product budget is less..

  108. Alicia Hydra Says:

    Justin, I just want to say that I really commend you for standing up for what you believe in like this, even if it means taking a pretty big blow against your career. That’s admirable to say the least. Just like Monica Foster said, the porn industry has open arms for uneducated people, and perhaps that’s why this racism exists, and there are far too few people willing to do anything about it. Not sure I agree with your notion not to do any interracial porn yourself, in the timeless words of Joseph Stein, “an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth. Very good, that way the whole world will be blind and toothless.”

    I just hope that you don’t get too hurt because of this. Good luck in everything you do and I hope you have a long and successful career, in porn or otherwise. I’ll see you in Miami. :)

  109. JimmyDrama Says:

    So I gotta say I feel for you Justin, have a few black friends in the same boat as you. It seems a bit unfair. Not much an argument on your point. I too am an ex-soldier and I don’t get a lot of what goes on in many aspects of life. I do got to say there is a reverse angle or what your saying that seems sometimes like it can be just as bad. I have seen white guys who all they want to film is with black women and most of the time they get turned down, doesn’t seem fair but what is one going to do, I guess swallow their pride and move on and hope they can get one to film with them, and they usually do. I have also seen white girls that won’t do a scene with a white guy and to me, I find that odd, if your preference is black men, or Asian men or whatever, I get that, but how can you hate your own race, same goes for black women who won’t shoot with black guys. I just don’t get it. I personally love black women, Hispanic women, Indian women and Asian women more than most white women, but I have seen plenty of white girls I would also date or have casual sex with as well. Since I am 3/4 white and 1/4 Cherokee I believe most women and men would find it odd if I would never date, have sex with or shoot a scene with ANY white girl at all. In my own opinion they are right. But I digress, the topic was the difficulty your having shooting interracial scenes. My last thing is Black women and white women should both be paid the same if their star power is the same. SO if you take lets say Vanessa Blue, Kitten, Jada Fire or Heather Hunter and match them up with other girls that are white of the same fame, they should make the same not less, same goes for Spanish women, Asian women and so on. The same exact thing goes for black talent and white talent. Anyhow I can go on for hours. SO hopefully some day this will all change, maybe all our great, great grandchildren will be Grey than there will be no interracial scenes just scenes.

  110. Sure Bill Says:

    Why won’t FreePornStar Pix or Darrah run this story?

  111. allbymyself2011 Says:

    cost of livin in la is damn near 10 times anywhere else in the country except NY so rate there really should have no correlation with rate elsewhere i mean 500 in la is like 1000 in 90% of the country

    microsoft is not porn lol again i know its how u make your living but u dont thing the big companies have other business ventures they dont put all their eggs in one basket its called diversification

    ur worried about eoe when most people are worried about the legality of porn being a legitimate business in the first place there no telling when the police feel like it can come in and say your no different then prostitution or throw and indecency charge on u and not everyone has larry flynt money most govt agencies will laugh in your face trying to get eoe for a porn company as they dont even see porn companies legit

    comparing what mlk and rosa parks did to get equal opportunity in the porn biz is a very far stretch and that analogy just doesnt fly with me

    if black owned companies dont even have enough to pay talent shouldnt that tell u something maybe the black population is not enough of the market to get as big as the big companies, hence the reason the big companies may not want to spend money on that niche and lets face it 13% is a niche black porn is not like tyler perry movies if 13 out of 100 people are black 1/2 of those are women who dont purchase porn in high numbers, another 3rd are too old or to young to purchase porn, another % just dont purchase porn do to its not their thing, religion, income level, bootleggers, whatever the reason so we can safely say out of every 100 people that purchase porn maybe 3 at the most are black and that is juts not a significant enough number for big companies to divert funds to or take the risk on an established brand u have to cater to your demographic and fan base

    nothing is given to anyone in life its not supposed to be easy is it easier for a blonde big titty girl yes is it fair no but what u gonna do about it

    I mean u made it no? so that means other can make it if the work hard and have a passion for it will it be harder then what others in the past had to do of course its 2010 theres a lot more obstacles the tubes, bootleging, amateurs, internet, the list goes on

    but cum on now theres always only been a handful of male stars anyway, for the last 30 years i always see the same men the ron jermeys, mr marcus, the guy with the beard, the guy who wears the bandanna round his neck

    u got women these days who do virtually anything for a paycheck and honestly the industry is eating itself I lost a lot of respect for a lot of stars the past few years i now stick to the amateur n local girls the over airbrushing, hour of make up, the SAME guys, the obvious fake moans, the gagging chocking vomiting just starting to be a turn off for a lot of people on top of everything else. people can run an ad online get some local girl for a decent rate I happen to also offer them point on their vids most dont and for the most part its real, no need to rent out mansions and scripts im sure there still a big market for that stuff but it is shrinking i can google any big stars name n watch they vids for free n why should i buy the dvd most men dont know but i know they dont get any portion of that dvd sell (well id say 90% of em dont) and y sigh up for their website thats most likely getting split 50/50 then all the costs involved split up more so she prob getting maybe 10-15% of her web memberships

    women are figuring out with some time and patience they can set up a web cam make some amateur vids and make a lot more locally being a big fish in a little pond instead of a lil guppy competing in la miami or ny, a amaeteur girl can build a fanbase of just 500 and make may more then shooting pay per scenes

    is just takes a little more time and a plan but she has her OWN content for life

    the only thing la has going for it is the glitz n glamour some fast money but we all knows it goes as fast as it comes and almost no new girls get any rights to their content

    and im just small time more of a hobby i really dont pay or shoot black talent u know why? because it takes a lot longer to recoup the scene if i pay 300-500 to a black girl (keep in mind she also gets half her sales) it takes me 6-12 months to recoup that scene, if i shoot a white girl i recoup in about 6 months. Now i can flip 1000 dollars legitimately a lot faster then that a bunch of different ways it is just a hobby but im thinking long term after i recoup the next 50 years or however long i have this gift of life i have passive income and i just try to grow that and diversify my income streams.

    so adapt and evolve or go extinct

  112. joe truth Says:

    When you reach into the lions cage and try to “TAKE”, is it the lions fault when you get your arm chewed off?
    Those that take and not earn are nothing but punk thugs. I understand people wanting an opportunity. But just because you think that something should be one way or another does not make it right. By the way i have a DD-214 as well and a VA card in my pocket. I earned that by defending what is ours as a country from scumbag wanna be takers and self appointed dictators. Speaking of rants. Your leading by example there my friend. As far as the KKK reference to me. That is an example of disgusting black racism at its worst. So by your train of thought people that don’t walk in a Nazi lock step with you Justin get called names and have dispersions cast on them by you. So people, say ZigHile to Justin. For if he thinks it and says it you will not question or provoke other thoughts. You are pitiful. Good luck little man you will never work for our company again. Your a newbie to this business. Lets see where you are in 18 years. Then give us a shout if your still relevant. LOMAO And that’s the TRUTH!

  113. justinlong Says:

    allbymyself2011,

    haya I agree with some of what you have said, but make no mistake, LOL it was reported some 60% of the content coming out of SFV 2 years ago was IR porn.. oh bruh thier is a market.. why do you think the big companies ever even shot it at all.. IR and BLACK ON BLACK was huge video team afro-centric was one of the biggest comapnies in LA and black on black was common shit my second shoot in the industry was with Midori

    If black on black dont sale then why was heather hunter the longest held contract star at Vivid.. now dont go up in arm and say see they love negros cause they kept her cause she was light black and because black sold and it still does but they dont have any companies to compete against that are huge DVD wharhouses for Black on black so they aint gotta produce or sale it cause thier aint no compition and most the girls they work with wont shoot IR so its a dodged bullet for them. otherwise why do they not have a black female contract star now. In fact thier is not on black female contract star in THE ENTIRE US MARKET. do you realize how many girls are contracted white asian hispanic all of em EXCEPT A BLACK WOMAN.. thats not equality no matter how you look at it, and fans do want to see it in masses

    They made big money from black on black and IR and off the sweat of negros… why dont thy shoot more??? because thier cutomer base wants to see certain girls including black and those certain girls (ex-cluding black)refuse to shoot IR.. LOL.. you can’t even see the exact BS from what I’m written.. sometimes you have to see it first hand and unless you’re here and workin here you aint seein it… if you were a pornographer here.. often a girl and or agent would charge you more just for her to shoot with a black male rather then a white male..

    FACT.. agents commonly charge an extra $100 per female talent if being booked with a black male talent… So right off the bat financially why would a director or company want to incur more cost to shoot IR or should I say black males.. I have lost work and been told this ios the exact reason BY the director.. so please dont call BS

    You propigate this whole problem yourself saying you often dont shoot black females.. so if negros like you and black companies owners here aint gonna put money in black girls and dudes pockets and the big companies aint then what you are saying is non-black have the luxury of coming in and having a job, but blacks ONLY need to start thier own company if they aint lucky enough to get work as just talent in what you agree is a discriminative enviroment…

    is that really the bullshit you tryin to tell me I have to stand for and swallow… cause your wrong.. falt out and this article proves it…

    Me, fact.. I have one of the biggest cocks in the LA industry.. not to toot my horn but rather to explain why i have been fortunate enough to steer clear of a full on on-slaught of closed doors due to my color.

    thats my saving grace and why I have always got the work I did.. SO what about the young brothas and sista that should have work but dont.. my niggas like ray black and tone capone and hooks, and ace, and broc admas, country pipes and the list goes on and on.

    People say they be too ghetto.. well duh they are average black males from LA and guess what aint to many blacks living in Bel fuckin Air or even beverly hills for that matter.. 99% of blacks do NOT grow up like Obama so i wish people would quit comparin ALL niggas to Obama.. shit niggas have to fight or die in the hood becuase poor people are desperate and the hoods of the world are poor. Thats where MOST blacks grow up. I did for the most part. Trailer parks and projects, sure a few nice houses and all but most of the time no.

    I HAVE TO STRONGLY DISAGREE Dr. King and Rosa Parks fought for racial equality – NOT racial equality here and their.. RACIAL Equality in all aspects of LIFE… this is employemnt wether you want to agree disagree whatever it dont matter cause you’re thier and we are HERE, NOW, IN IT, DAILY. When I work for a company and they take out taxes then I am an employee.

    Dr. King and Rosa Parks were’nt sitting thier saying they only wanted access and fair rights to water fountains and buses. They wanted fair access and oppurtunity to every thing that is avail to whites and non-blacks across the board..

    that is the very definition of equal rights..

    it’s not just restricted to ford plants bruh.. it’s all employment, all restraunts, all movie theaters, it’s equality and the erasing of color barriers. ARe we thier as a country.. not even close..

    And dont seel me this shit we got a black president..

    Cause A.) Obama dont resemble the average african american .. his wife does but Obama him self is damn near lighter then me… and lets not forget his family had money for harvard bruh.. a person can meet alot of rich white influental people going to harvard.. it’s the exact same thing if you a contract star for a big white owned studio here.. However I am not trying to take away the perserverence or hard work Obama put into his career

    It makes you within ear shot.. lets also not forget that Obama had mad death plots to kill his black ass and if the KKK and many whites could get away with it, you bet your ass they would, because it steeems the shit out of them that they got a brotha tellin em what to do..

    Dont think we aint got that here.. you’de be lying to yourself if you did….

    AGAIN i feel ya about owning companies and all that, but you aint helpin the movement to fix a problem yourself having agreed exist, by derailing the subject into company ownership ideas that brothas and sistas have known for years, and have been doing longer and on a larger scale then you even do. you preachen to the chior is what i’m saying. The reason you have to do things the way you doin em is because this fight aint neva been fought.

    STand up and support your race and say yeah I too will take a stand, and then start hiring black talent. You claim it takes longer to get your money back.. i yell bullshit.. pinky and her hubby makin bank doin it themsleves, cuttin deals and puttin in work.. and it’s all black on black and IR, and lets not pretend pinky got here like ages ago..

    Man they kickin it for real doe.. I dont know how you live or what your accounts look like but pinky doing the damn thing…

    Not hiring blacks – for whatever reason by you and black owned companies aint doin nothing but keepin black people down, and then you and black company owners wanna holla “mr. white man dont own you nothin you need to start a company and create your own job and then give brothas and sistas jobs and bring em up”.. “thats how we gonna make change” because “we tried to get equality and they said no”.

    man I sit here and yell practice daily what you preach.. NOT HIRING BLACK FOLK AINT DOIN BLACK FOLK NO FAVORS

    Stand with us .. we know every damn number and idea you thrown out.. you livin this as a hobby and you really gonna sit thier and think your gonna explain the damn game to us???? come on bro it’s almost offensive that you think you know are industry more then us and you aint never been in it full time.. dont have never been in something full time and then try to critize the people that live it for real bruh.. it’s arrogant and often times very calous.

    we would rather you stand behind your race and agree (like you have) that shit is fucked up and support us to get fair treatment instead of waving the white flag and making the same damn excuses that the big studios come up with…

    sorry to tell you but you sound just like them and when we rip your numbers apart cause we can .. we have seen all those numbers before and your nubers are’nt even factual they are educated guess’s by you who aint here and in the now and full time in this game.

    Being in the game admittedly part time I seriously doubt you have anywhere close to the distribution that black owned companies here even have so how could you even presume to know what the logistics of selling porn DVD to the masses could be?

    I aint trying to rip you down rather just trying to make you see you settin the movemnet backwards, cause I would damn sure hope you aint tryin to convience me to stop yelling FUCK DISCRIMINATION IN MY WORK PLACE.. especially if this aint your full time industry and work place.. you out thier doing your thing.. while we here feelin the hate.. feel me?

  114. justinlong Says:

    Joe Truth.. LOL

    You must had missed the last line of my comment which you are reffering to, in which I “THANKED” you for your comment (however much iI disagree)and wished you God’s blessing and god’s speed.. and again you prove my point and mention YOU and YOUR COMPANY but yet still fail to POINT OUT EXACTLY WHAT COMPANY THAT IS, and exactly who YOU are that believes this treament of blacks is ok and blacks should shut up and take it…

    Yet another token last night @ XRCO whoot whoot yet anotha successful night for blacks @ awards .. LOL this time we had a whole two noms for blacks and “1” award.. whooaaaa watch out.. but yet i’m sure enough that the A&E’s and vivids and wickeds and DP and VCA’s took home a truck load and the talent thats “ALLOWED” to work for them did as well…

    shit even by your argument blacks were NOT represented thier..

    hmm 1 award outta probably 70 or 80 .. ok i’m gonna try to add but I’m black so give me a minute .. LOL uhh that would be at least 7 or 8 awards to even equal 10% but i thought the magic number was just below 13% ohh yeah forgot.. industry dont owe blacks anything anyway including respect and acknowledgement of thier work and contribution to this industry.

    LOL HAY JOE YOU AINT GETTTING IT BRUH

    FUCK YOUR COMPANY

    I been yellin that since the begining of this, and for the last five years for that matter. LOL So coming back @ me and saying “you’ll never work for our company “again” LOL (so obviously i have worked for you in the past?)” is mute thier smart guy… and that is “IF” you aren’t some sad fuck sitting at home that trully is’nt in porn or “really” doesn’t own a company or have the juice to make desicions like that..

    Personally I think I know who you are and if you are who I think you are “you have a shit company that many white black and others refuse to work for because you fuck people over for money”.. if this is you then you and I know I came 2 sceonds from beating your ass in your own house for fuckin with my money and I had too show up on your door step and threaten your ass to get my money after you dodged phone calls and VM';s for over a month.

    iether way you still refuse to say WHO YOU ARE OR WHAT “COMPANY” YOU OWN..

    either way guess what I DONT GIVE A FUCK I’ve been yelling since the begining

    FUCK YOUR COMPANY JOE TRUTH

    you’re sitting here tellin me you aint gonna hire me when I done been telling you I REFUSE TO WORK FOR YOU.. LOL

    you are the pitifull one… you sittin here acting like you tellin a bitch you wont fuck her (which you really want to) after she already done told you to get fucked…

    LOL you are laughs let me say it one more time and real slow cause obviously you have problems reading

    FUCK YOUR COMPNAY JOE TRUTH

    I dont need you… but why you at it why dont you tell all the Black folk out their

    WHAT COMPANY YOU OWN AND WHO YOU REALLY ARE??????????

    that way they can go back and see your discriminatory rants and tell you to fuck off just as i have.. lets see how much your obviously not black ass makes off off the sweat, blood, anf life threatening risk we blacks and all talent take everyday to make you’re dumb ass money..

    PS WHY YOU BEHIND CAMERA ANYWAY can’t get it up joe.. ????? LOL

    SO one more time so we are perfecttly clear K..

    YOU AINT HURTIN ME SAYING YOU WONT HIRE ME lol CAUSE I ALREADY DONE TOLD YOU IN THE BEGINING “FUCK YOUR COMPANY” (IF YOU EVEN REALLY OWN ONE)

    all i see as well as others is a bullshit screen name. You holleran like you are actually someone.. LOL.. you are a pussy to scared of the fall out to say who you really are and what supposed company you work at/ own and at that, that has hired me “before”…

    If you actually knew me then you would have contact with me and if thats the case then you aint my friend hittin me on this board instead of calling me and voicing your opinion to me as a friend without hiding behind some pussy ass screen name

    .. YOU ARE JUST LIKE THE KKK my friend..

    you wanna speak inflamatory shit and then hide your identity because you KNOW damn well that even the majority of your own race dont agree with your views..

    I”M JUSTIN LONG no hiding here thier mr. pittiful. can you do and say the same.. I dare you !!!!!!

  115. Will Ryder Says:

    Not the Cosbys XXX 2 in stores now with a whole bunch of black, white, Asian and Hispanic peeps. It’s like the United Nations without pants. Another fun colorblind moment from X-Play’s sitcums.com

  116. justinlong Says:

    @ Will Ryder LOLOL and see thats why I love you Will… You rock and thank you for the comment.. I hope the movie is doing well.. Got ta love a company that is diversfied and often..

    Thanks Again

  117. MichaelCaprice Says:

    I have taken my time and read about 90% of what has been written. There are alot of good points being made.

    However I think something that should be addressed is the reason why things are the way they are.
    The fact is that most of porn being actually paid for is by men…white men…most likely older white men. That is where the money is at.

    Alot of IR porn is about the taboo nature of black and white. Whether we want to admit it or not we all have our own prejudices. I do believe that there is alot of racism in this country and I do believe that it exists on porn sets as well. But I think something that we are failing to understand is that the reason why this porn exists is because behind close doors there lies this dirty little secret.

    And the dirty little secret is that alot of white people are curious. Most white men get off to a big black cock fucking a little white girl because its sooo “bad” they get off to liking what they are taught is wrong. You think these guys tell their friends that they like watching big black cock? Of course not..

    Look at the growth of cuckolding sites. That is the ultimate. Most are well endowed black men humiliating a white man by having sex with their wives etc…even forced bi acts like forcing the white man to clean up the cum off of or out of the woman or forcing him to perform oral sex on the black man.

    Who do you think is watching this?? Im going to go out on a limb here and say older white men. The ones with the money. Human nature is always to want that is which is taboo…the unknown.

    I personally am not racist. However I have no desire watching a black female pornstar. I like pretty white girls. Do I have black female friends? yes. Do I want to see them have sex? No. Is that racist? No just personal taste. I dont find them sexually attractive as I dont find BBW’s attractive. I look at my non attraction to them as one in the same. Just choice.

    Its interesting though its okay for me to watch a black guy have sex with a white woman. However Im turned off by watching a white man have sex with a black woman. Is this wrong Im not sure. But Im being honest.

    I also think its unfair to be upset at the porn girls who have you on their no list because you are black. They are trying to survive just like you are. If they are being told that it will hurt their careers and they are scared maybe that feeds into their prejudice is it right? No.

    However I think to make everyone across America stop doing their jobs to stand up to social injustice is a pipe dream. The reality is that people have to eat, pay rent, feel socially accepted etc. To think that people are going to inconvenience themselves to make you feel better is crazy. People in the end look out for number 1…themselves. A close second maybe their family or spouse or children if they have any.

    I applaud your courage and I agree it sucks. But it is a reality.

  118. justinlong Says:

    MichaelCaprice,

    Great comment!!!! i could say a few things but you wrote a great comment and I would rather let people se it and digest it as food for thought then taint it with some long reply from me. I agree with 95% of what you said .. thank you so much for taking your time to stand up and be counted.. YOUR voice has been heard as all on here wether i agree or disagree and that is what I did this for.. to start the conversation and bring light to it because with out it change for the better will never start..

  119. anthonyk Says:

    WOW…so much heat and so much light, and on a subject near and dear to my heart as a Black male porn fan/defender/political progressive/antiracist.

    First off, to Justin: It takes HUGE sac to risk everything to take a stand on broader principle; so my hat goes off to you for doing what you did. I’m one of the biggest defenders of adult sexual media across the board, and yet not even I can be blind to the basic fact that porn is not immune to the same messy impacts of racism and racial discrimination in the overall society.

    We can talk until we are blue in the face about the successes of Lex, Mr. Marcus, Sean Michaels, Tyler Knight, and all other brothas whom have cleared their own path in this profession….but I’m willing to bet that behind them there are many, many second tier Black male performers who simply struggle to make it and are sometimes even forced to eat some pretty vile and nasty stereotypes in order just to pay their rent.

    Sure, no one wants to air out dirty laundry because it will become fodder for the likes of Joe Fool…..errrrrrrrr, Joe “Truth”, or antiporn activists like Dr. Gail Dines who specialize in the art of using the “porn is RACIST” card to fuel her censorship campaigns….but just like in civilian society, an untreated sore ultimately can get infected and ultimately cause greater harm or even death.

    Far better to have a debate here where we all — performers, producers, and fans alike — can hash out our disagreements and at least reach a healthy consensus to change this industry for the better.

    I’m simply NOT going to pass judgment here and now on those White girls who refuse for whatever reason to do Black men….they have their own consciences to deal with, as well as their own bank accounts. Racism to me is simply a lot more than just personal preference in what color dick goes into your pussy. I sure as all HELL am not going to pass any judgment on women like Marie Luv or Monica Foster or Sinnamon Love who fight the battle every damn day for Black female performers to be taken seriously as playas in this industry; their personal sexual tastes should not even be the issue here.

    And for those whom have commented here who say that Justin should simply go independent and make his own brand or line of porn that fits his standards?? An excellent idea…provided that you have enough money and credibility to pull it off against the giants of VIVID or Wicked or the other megacomps. How about those lecturing him also give up some change to him to back up your reccomendations?? If not, then let him be…his body, his risk, his paycheck.

    [to be continued]
    Anthony

  120. anthonyk Says:

    Now, as to the nature of the interracial porn beat itself.

    Sure, it can and often does pander to the worst of the popular stereotypes about Black men as pimpdaddies/gangbangers with monster cocks attacking “defenseless” waify White girls; whether that is the result of the money demographic being older White men stuck in their Mandango complexes; the lack of innovation and ingenuity amongst the current oligarchy of porn producers, or simply just the herd mentality of “follow what sucks up the most Benjis”, is a subject for another day. But, it can also be, at its best, a place where even with all the bullshit plots and Steppin’ Fectchit roleplaying, there can be actual human empathy happening.

    After all, even with all the surrounding noise, what we still end up with is (usually) two human beings getting paid to engage in the most physically intimate act for other people’s pleasure…and if you can’t trust the one you are fucking and sucking, who can you trust?? (Hot lights, a camera crew, and directors shouting at them to get into positions that defy normal humanhood just to get that perfect angle tends to lessen the eroticism, too.) At least, there have been serious efforts by some of the major players to beat down those stupid stereotypes and make IR porn that actuall depicts free and equal human beings banging for the love and the lust and the thrill, not just to sell a beat-off fantasy for some crackhead Confederate wannabes with money to burn. Maybe a bit more of that would help put down the tendency to go to the tried-and-true easy fix of “There’s a NEGRO In My Bedroom!” or “Malcolm XXX” or even “Obama’s Nailin’ Paylin”.

    Also…there’s a lot for porn fans to do to help things out. They have the power of the purse and the wallet; and if enough of them decide that they’ve had enough of cheesy bad racist IR porn, and start supporting artists like Justin Long with paid memberships and buying his material, then he will get enough bread and scratch to probably change the game a bit. Why let the old White guys control what passes for the market, anyway??

    Should every performer be an activist?? Probably not….there aren’t enough hours in the day for that, and besides, social attitudes don’t tend to change on a dime. Evolution tends to grind its wheels slowly, sometimes too slow for a lot of young folk…but it does ultimately bump and grind. I think that ultimately, the passage of time and the arrival of new playas at the big companies with fresher attitudes will filter out the more bigoted assholery about IR porn; and we will see an upsurge in less degrading, more humane, and more consensual porn across the board. The problem is, though, that as long as we have human desires and human frailties, and there are men with hard dicks and women with wet clits who desire to see what they consider the taboo, there will probably always be a market, however slim, for the kind of “degrading” interracial roleplay porn. Whether you decide to roll with the punches or not as a performer is entirely your choice…and I can’t and won’t hold anything against you whatever you choose. Your personal and professional sexual choices are just that…your own. I’ll save my rage for genuine acts of racial injustice and for real institutional discrimination, and to get all performers a livable wage for their labors of “sin”, whatever their race may be.

    But mark my words, folks, and I’m talking specifically at you, Vivid, Wicked, AVN, and all the rest of the Big Dawgs: either you had damn well better take people like Justin Long to heart and make better and more humane product that caters to the diversity of everyone…or one day you will find out the hard way what it means to have had and lost everything when half your audience abandons you for being still stuck in ancient ideas.

    Or, to quote one of my favorite sayings: Don’t hate the players…..hate the game. Then CHANGE the game for the better.

    Anthony

  121. jeremiahsteele Says:

    Is ‘assholery’ a word? Either way, I love it.

    I saw an old banned Little Rascals episode with Fetchin Stepit. Funny stuff. He was a big star back then, too, I’ve read.

    At least, to my knowledge, black guys seem not to be complaining too much about the huge dick stereotype in porn. Probably not on the top of their list of complaints, I presume.

  122. justinlong Says:

    The Colonel

    Funny I never compared the discrimination in the industry to slavery. I also most certainly have NEVER refered to white people as the EVIL white men or women. You have just PUT WORDS IN MY MOUTH. Cause none of those words have ever come out of my mouth. I in fact take it as a serious personal insult being among other things that my grand father was white an oregenian and a logger (as white as you can get w/ french, irish and german blood).

    I’m gonna rip your address to me apart line by line and show your readers that you and your arguement are full of hot air K. Here goes

    1.) you said “Justin, what I gather so far, is that in your opinion it’s fine to act and behave like a gangster or punk or thug, and it’s fine to depict such stereotype characters in porn movies.”

    Acting is what we’re are paid to do. Note the star at the end of porn in my earned name. So if you want to say everyone that is acting a thug or gansta or “punk” on the silver screen as it were is doing harm to thier race right?

    Then maybe we should take a look at some white on white porn films and mainstream TV. I’ve seen many of adult and mainstream stars do that time and time again in rolls as bikers, gang members, punks and thugs. It also happens in porn. Ture less i agree. None the same it happens.

    The question that comes to me is, why does the company that would put out mostly “racial” titled film with ethnics make and produce white on white film and NOT title them with racial over tones?

    I would give examples of this but do i really need to?

    2.) you said “It’s discriminating, racist white owners of porn companies who depict such image of black men, and black men must participate in making these self derogatory movies, otherwise they’ll go hungry and homeless.

    I have called some companies discriminating and even your viewers and mine IN the industry agree overwhelmingly (count the post’s). I have never once called any person by name racist, but yes have pointed out specific instances and occurances where white persons in this industry have shown and been confirmed as racist yes. Are you going on record as saying that thier are no racist in the industry?

    Fact, yes if black men in this industry refused to play parts in movies and scenes where they were told to play a gangster, a thug, or a “punk” then, yes unless leaving the industry, one would starve and be homeless. (hmm i thought we played gangsters and gang bangers, and thugs – guess the punk part was just a jab at me)

    3.)you said “So basically it’s the same slavery scenario: Evil white men’s oppression over black men. I’m afraid that’s not the case.”

    I NEVER mentioned slavery… hmmm and again I never called white men evil (i think i have noted how I feel about that in the first paragraph of this post)

    “thats not the case” You sound so damn arrogant thier it’s almost funny. You should have probably ended that with an “in your opinion” – just an idea. especially with such an ambiguous analogy.

    However yes whites do control 99% of what happens with or to a black talent in the industry; from representation and booking to fillming and publicity or lack thier of on any count.

    4.) you said “Racism still exists not in porn, but in every aspects and corners of American society, I don’t deny that.”

    You proved what you were saying wrong in the same sentence. How stupid. Watch!!!!!

    “Racism still exists not in porn” OK

    next

    “but in every aspects and corners of American society”

    If racism exist in ever corner of society, then that include porn!!!! Duhhh

    Alast!!!!!!

    “I don’t deny that.”

    So you are saying it doesn’t exist in porn but rather in all of society (which includes porn) and you don’t deny it, but yet you say thier is no racism in porn..

    Hmmmmm I call Bullshit.. Anyone else? white black hispanic asian or other????? YES in fact the majority of the peiople (hands down) that have posted, and that have used thier REAL names and ARE actually IN the adult industry.

    LETS CONTINUE SHALL WE

    5.)You said “But today, unlike the 19th century, black people have more options and they can put their pride before their paycheck if they want to.”

    Glad we have more options now.. mighty white of ya. No really thanks..

    ON TOO THE MEAT OF IT AHY MATE..

    So a white company is doing a movie and they call me up. I actually get the name of the movie and it’s racially (shall we say) offensive or derogatory. You know and I know and every talent in the industry knows (everybody).

    If i took a stand and said well “wicked” a movie called “Bet on Black” and being all black male talent, “i think it’s racist and degrading to me, my race, and black talent, I’m gonna have to pass”.

    WAIT FOR IT, WAIT FOR IT – (NOW TELL THE TRUTH, DONT LIE TO YOURSELF)

    LOL “Wicked” would had black balled me (wasn’t trying to be fecicous thier) you know it I know it and every talent in the industry knows it. So without having to leave the industry to work?

    I’m sorry but I and most black male performers aren’t seeing your options.

    By the way that was the only wicked movie i ever shot in a career spanning 12 years and I fuckin rocked it !!!!! on a pool table with condom..

    PS haven’t seen a Stormy Daniel’s movie or Jessica Drake and Brad Armstrong movie come out of that camp yet called “Bet on white” where its all white guys doing black girls either…. hmmm nahhh it couldn’t be Come to think of it Haven’t seen any derogatory named films come from wicked that is white on white. They have asian contract stars their but haven’t seen a film called “bet on yellow?” either ..

    Continuing with the task at hand shall we

    6.) You said “For instance Lexington Steele, Mandingo, Sean Michaels and several other black male performers do not portray themselves as stereotypical gangsters and punks and thugs.You do not see these guys in interracial gang bang movies like White Trash Whore. ”

    Mandingo (fred nice), Sean, Lex, Tyler, Marcus, Tee-Reel, Brian Pumper, and now Nat Tuner are pretty much the guys you are refering to. I will concead these are the performers you are refering to.

    Problem – i have been ON SET AND SHOT WITH Tyler, Tee-Reel, Marcus, Brian Pumper, Lexington Steele, Fred Nice (AKA Mandingo), Sean and Nat Turner, and for that matter damn near every other black male talent working IN LA on scenes, sets, and movies that have racially derogatory titles as well as depictions of “the balck guys bangin the little white girl and talking trash”.

    So now i guess (your words)”You do not see these guys in interracial gang bang movies like White Trash Whore.”

    Doesn’t hold to much wieght or water now does it????

    YOUR “FOR INSTANCE” IS SUNK – YOU’RE WRONG IT’S FACT ALL OF THEM HAVE- CHECK PORN STAR DATA BASE AND DO YOUR HOMEWORK FROM NOW ON BEFORE YOU SPEW FALSE INFORMATION IN THE HOPES OF MISLEADING YOUR READERS – YOU, ARE A POOR JOURNALIST SIR!!!!!

    But lets continue with the fun and the farse

    7.) You said “You too have the same option they have.”

    this is almost mute with me showing you (for fact) that your last portion of rant is false and misleading.

    However to show you I am a sporting and fair gent I will respond a new. The names alone you mentioned, have been chosen by the company owners to work for those company owners. No problem with thier selection (i wish all those black male performers nothing but continued success in thier careers).

    However, I as talent do NOT have the option to make a Steve Hirch put me in a Vivid feature as he has placed the fine black male talent that you have mentioned at one time or another. So i NO do not have thier options.

    Again your argument holds no wieght or water and I have sunk it for fact twice now. The first time in fact, and in sport and fact the second time.

    ALMOST DONE ( I KNOW IT’S PAINFULL LOOKING STUPID BUT BARE WITH ME COLONEL) STICK WITH ME HERE FOLKS

    8.) You said “You don’t want to choose that option, fine. But at least accept responsibility for your own doing and quit blaming others for your actions and decisions and playing Martin Luther King Jr. of porn valley.

    Uhhhh yes i did and I did choose the option!!!!! I would “had” loved to have been in Vivid features (its mute now, and i am not sorry or sad) and this and a third. I even have mainstream acting exp. and went to mainstream acting schools just in case i got a shot. LOL.. As far as derogatory titles .. read my last post

    “I DONT SHOOT THEM ANYMORE AND NEVER LIKED THE NAMES IN THE FIRST PLACE NOR DID OR DO ANY BLACK PEOPLE IN THE BIZ”

    I have “always” taken responsibilties for my actions as a person and professional. Your argument says “discrimination (“which doesn’t exist in porn but exist in all aspects of society”)in porn is created by (but doesn’t exist)black males doing racially derogatory movie titles.”

    I have “proved this false” beyond reproach (of very easily obtained information and information that exist here on the web and specifically in your own post)

    that in fact black male talents DO NOT have an option to refuse work and stand up and tell company owners what we think of these racially derogatory titles and content that they (white company owners 95% of them) are putting out. This can NOT be done and CONTINUE to make a living working in the adult industry as talent.

    I’M GONNA ADDRESS THIS LAST PART BY IT’S SELF BECAUSE THIS A AN EXACT PHRASE ALOT OF BLACK PEOPLE HERE WHEN STANDING UP TO STUFF LIKE THIS IN ALL ASPECTS OF LIFE AND ITS REALLY SAD.

    9.) You said “quit blaming others for your actions and decisions and playing Martin Luther King Jr. of porn valley.

    VERY SIMPLE – I lay blame where blame is due

    LETS GET DOWN AND DIRTY SHALL WE –

    DERRICK HAY AND JOEL LAWERNCE BOTH TELL GIRLS NOT ONLY NOT TO DO IR BUT CONVIENCE AND PERSUADE AND EVEN (SHALL WE SAY COHERSE) GIRLS TO DO SUCH.

    It has even been reported by some ex models from these agencies that in fact it is in contract in some cases.

    FACT – BLACK GIRLS ARE “NOT EVEN ASKED” IN MANY IF NOT ALL CASES IF THEY DO IR, WHEN APPLYING TO THESE AGENCIES. IT IS IN FACT DAMANDED FOR THEM TO BE REPRESENTED AND ASSUMED BY THE AGENT AND AGENCY PERSONELL THROUGH THE ENTIRE PROCESS.

    MAKE NO MISTAKE DERRICK HAY WOULD NEVER SIGN A BLACK FEMALE THAT REFUSED TO DO WHITE MALE TALENT (IT’S AN INSULT TO HIS WHITE RACE AND TO HIM PERSONNALLY AS HE TOO IS TALENT).

    IN FACT I WAS ON HIS SITE ONCE AND SAW ONE OF THE ONLY BLACK FEMALES I HAD EVER SEEN THAT DIDN’T BLACK MALE TALENT. I WAS LIKE OK SHE DOESN’T DO IR (WOW SHE MUST NOT WORK MUCH) AND WHEN INVESTIGATED IT TURNED OUT SHE WAS LISTED AS NOT DOING IR- AND GET THIS – IT MEANT SHE DIDN’T WORK WITH BLACK MALES (OR SO I WAS TOLD BY PEOPLLE THAT KNEW HER) THATS RIGHT SHE ONLY WORKED WITH NON-BLACK MALES LOL

    IN FACT OUT OF ALL THE GIRLS ON LA DIRECT (RIGHT NOW), THIER IS ‘1′ BLACK FEMALE TALENT @ LA DIRECT OUT OF 116 FEMALE MODELS.

    FACT THIER IS “1″ BLACK MALE TALENT AS WELL @ LA DIRECT OUT OF 30 MALE TALENT IN TOTAL.

    THIS MEANS THAT AT LA DIRECT RIGHT NOW THIER ARE “2″ BLACK TALENTS OUT OF 146 TALENTS. LOL

    I UNEQUIVICKLY TAKE RESPONSIBILITIES FOR MY ACTION AND DECISIONS AND !!!!! THOUGHTS AND !!!!! WRITINGS!!!

    NOW SIR I SAY LET THE WHITE SIDE OF THE INDUSTRY THAT WOULD DISCRIMINATE DO THE SAME. WITH THAT THIER WOULD BE CHANGE FOR RACIAL EQUALITY IN THE PORN INDUSTRY.

    10.) YOU SAID ” Quit playing Martin Luther King Jr. of porn valley.”

    I dare respond “I AM NOT PLAYING” “I AM JUSTIN LONG AND I AM TIRED JUST LIKE MLK WAS, OF THE POOR TREATMENT OF ME AND MY PEOPLE AND I AM TIRED OF BEING TREATED AS A SECOND CLASS INDIVIDUAL IN THIS INDUSTRY, AND COUNTRY. I WILL NIETHER TOLERATE IT ANYMORE OR STAND IDOLLY BY WATCHING THE STRUGGLE. I WILL NOT FEAR POSSIBLE HARM TO MYSELF, FROM OPINION OR THREATS OF HARM FROM PEOPLE LIKE YOU OR ANY OTHER PERSON WHO WOULD DEPRIVE US OF EQUAL RIGHTS FOR BLACKS NO MATTER WHAT FACCET OF LIFE OR WHAT CORNER OF SOCIETY. I WILL YELL IT FROM THE HIEGHEST TOWER AND IT WILL CONSUME YOU UNTIL CHANGE HAS COME. I SIR HAVE A HURRICANE IN ME THAT WILL WIPE CLEAN THAT FALSE SINCE OF ENTITLEMENT YOU SO EGARLY GRIN WITH AND THAT SINCE OF PRIDE YOU CARRY IN YOUR VERY WALK THAT PROCLAIMS YOU ARE KING DUE TO YOUR COLOR.

    VERY SIMPLE “YOU PISSED OFF THE WRONG NEGRO”

    I AINT FINISHED WITH THE DISCRIMINATORY ASS’S OF PEOPLE IN THIS INDUSTRY BY A FUCKIN LONG SHOT. I’M FIGGIN TO GET MID EVIL ON YO ASS… BET ON THAT!!!! OR AS IN THE “WICKED” FILM “BET ON BLACK”

    This is the begining of change. You can’t stop it. You and your boys and girls are going down. It started here but it’s growing exponetionally daily. I started with this blog and now I am in over 8. I am not just in porn media I am in mainstream media. You dirty little secret is out and stars and fans and most important consumers are pissed!!!!! 1k tweets to me over 48 hours say’s so !!!!! your white regiem and white playground is over, done, finished.!!!!! I have radio as well as web tv apperances, and tada weekly colums now !!!!!!

    NO I will not go silently into the night !!!!!

    11.) You said “Good luck to you.”

    I respond as a gentelman “same to you dear sir”

    Justin Long
    Adult Film Star

  123. TheTruthHasSpoken Says:

    If every business use the excuses regarding race as porn does then black
    folks would have an EVEN MORE HARDER time being succesful and getting
    their foot in the door……
    I like his attitude and what he says no matter what alot of folks may think
    is correct about this industry. But black men must bare as to why it is like this
    in porn with white women because from the fans to the directors
    and performers THEY helped the discrimination because they put these white women on like they are the best thing out and now you have these whitegirls getting all cocky and confident over black guys wanting them and they manage to turn it into a business with the ones who delay performing with a black man OR charge more for performing with a black man… They made treating blacks like a second class citizen a business… And that is racist I dont care what anybody say facts dont lie…They’ll delay performing with a black man, but not a white man…They charge more for doing a black man but not a white man. And you also have asians, indians, and hispanic women
    getting in on it. Just because profitted off of it doesnt mean it is not what
    it is. If a drug dealer makes more money selling drugs than selling some shit
    from telemarketing, does that make him not a drug dealer anymore because he
    profitted more off of drugs. You see what it is It is harder to admit what you
    do is racist than it is harder to admit being a drug dealer, because of the level of how bad it is….Dealing Drugs is bad, but not nearly as bad as RACISM
    because of connections of evil it has.

    Drugs got ESCOBAR
    Racism got HITLER

    It is what it is…Dont want to be it, Dont BE it.
    And of course the agencies have something to do with it but like one person
    on here said, pornstars are not children they should of known what they agents were doing from the start, and if they didnt that doesnt help the stereotype that pornstars are dumb and porn is all they are good for.

    But as I say black males in this industry must take part of this blame…But not because they do IR porn but because when girls start to treat racism as
    a business with delaying and charging more…Guess who will be there for them
    to help them get their money. BLACK MEN!
    When Kristina Rose finally went to do IR as she took the next step for HER?
    black men were right there and formed their BACKS as her steps.
    When Tori Black wanted MORE money to do IR ANAL to get HER money up
    Guess who was right there hoisting her to get that money? BLACK MEN!
    It seems that black men in porn did what ALOT of men seem to do and that is
    put pussy in front of money….But alot of men do it so lets whats the big deal? The big Deal here is that race is BIG part of it so therefor they are not ONLY putting pussy in front of money but their PRIDE
    as well….And for an African American especially, BLACK PRIDE MEANS ALOT TO US BECAUSE OF THE EMBARRASSMENT AND HELL THIS COUNTRY AND OTHERS HAVE PUT IT THROUGH FOR CENTURIES AND COUNTING. WE WERE THE FACE OF UGLY, OUR PRIDE WAS AND STILL IS DISRESPECTED TO THE FULLEST!!!! THEY DID EVERY EVIL THING YOU CAN TO IT. FOR YEARS THERE WAS TEARS IN OUR PRIDE, SO WHEN AFRICAN AMERICANS DISS THEIR OWN FUCKING PRIDE FOR THE DOLLAR AND PUSSY, IT IS NOTHING SHORT OF PITYFUL AND A SELLOUT. Pussy and Money give you happy moments, Pride in yourself gives you happiness ALL THE TIME!

    The Thing that REALLY NEEDS TO BE DONE…Is that black men need to be against these girls who charge more and wants to delay performing with black men by simply not PARTICIPATING. Because they do it for business, RACISM is a hidden business in porn and you shouldnt let it Use your pride as a money maker. And If any black guy decides to put his pride out there on the racist market, the Urban Porn industry needs to let em know that he is a sellout and black companies should refuse to work with that performer…Because obviously he didnt get the lesson that is being learned about racism in porn. But lets not stop there…White Women that puts limits on what they do with black men versus a white man arent slick neither. Thats saying white men are worth all of this and your not, the hell with them too. Another thing, ANOTHER BIG THING is black girls get no respect from the AVNs then BLACK GIRLS DONT DO IR films no more made by white men. In fact do a little turn of the tables Have Sistas that DONT DO WHITE MEN…Because it seems that another thing thats WRONG in porn and that is Black Men’s plates are Half Full and White Men’s plate is too damn full! They got white chicks, black chicks, latin chicks…You name it they got girl or girls of every race that Only or Mostly fucks them. Their Plate is full! Which is why white men dont have shit to complain about, they got it all!!!

    Last Time I checked the Urban Porn Industry belongs black men right, so it looks like black men needs to fill their own fucking plates up and stop begging
    and asking these white men for some of their food. And dont share all your food with somebody who doesnt want to share all of their food with you!
    You look like a sucka! You share your whole good mash potatoes with the man, but out of those big slabs of Ribs he gives you 1 piece. He just made you look like a sucka! and you let him, because he did the other brotha the same way right in front of your face! ……..Powerful Sistas are needed in porn too, what makes this industry think that sistas BELONGS on a white man’s plate, that all black women that enter porn want them. If some of these sistas wake up as well and see that they are nothing but business decision that this industry refuse to award, that they will never measure up to every other race of female in this industry, that they are not worth the money a white woman is worth I gaurantee you the number of black women doing white men in porn will drop.

    You dont detach yourself from doing IR, You detach who you do it with….From the performer to the company you detach who you do it with.

    But it seems it is going to be hard bcuz I saw that Alexander Devoe said he greeted Alexis Texas with a hug and everything and I hear alot of blacks are friendly with these girls that treats treating black men like second class citizens a great business decision.

    Black folks are closing their own damn eyes, Black Folks are standing in front of the target voluntarily and I hope justin long sees that as the problem more than anything.

  124. themouth Says:

    Oh an Monica Foster, dont complain about doing IR or no in porn when we all know u do it for WAY LESS hooking http://eroticservices.cityvibe.com/escorts.php?do=view&p=1865345

  125. justinlong Says:

    Man some of you would blame a blind man for knocking over your hot dog stand on his way to the grocrey store, just for being blind.

  126. justinlong Says:

    I dont blame the tigers for doing what they are suppose to at the circus. The tiger has to eat, and he wont get to if he dont perform. I rather blame the breeder for breeding the tiger that ended up in the circus. I guess the circus too is to blame are’nt they. Reacon the tiger could had mauled the people and not went to the circus, but then he gets no food, no shelter, and gets shot.

  127. MonicaFoster Says:

    To “Themouth”:

    I will not stop “complaining” as you call it (actually I’m not complaining at all, just stating the facts as I see them) about the issue that Justin Long brought up in this post, being that the racism within adult entertainment DEFINITELY needs to subside.

    I’m not against IR porn, far from it – I love IR sex – I’d just like to know why black women aren’t advised in the same manner as their caucasion counterparts to “hold off” on IR sex in porn to create longevity in their porn careers and to receive a higher payday later on such scenes.

    Why is a black penis in a white pussy seen in “porn world” as more taboo and “valuable” then a white penis in a black pussy?

    Also thanks for promoting my ad – I just recently decided to try out private adult entertaining and it’s working out well – my only question is, what does my ad have to do with this topic? They’re 2 completely different matters in 2 completely different areas of the world of adult entertainment.

    You sure are obsessed with me Themouth considering that first you misnamed who I was dating (and on this same thread for that matter which was beyond funny), and now the very first weekend I post an ad on CV you link it here…your stalker tendencies are frightening, but considering that you have to hide behind an alias on here while I and other people with guts don’t – I’m not too worried :)

  128. justinlong Says:

    Thank you for pointing out that last fact you did Monica. I aboslutely agree that the TPOIC is, “Racial Discriminatin In The Adult Industry”.

    However, if people are gonna throw rocks, and launch personal attacks, then at least be fair, and look at the whole picture.

    The fact is, is that huge names in porn, “white” huge names are at Dennis Hoff’s ranch daily. They refuse to due IR here in the Valley, but are more then glad to take negro’s money while engaging in the oldest profession in the world.

    So, aint gonna make no points their, because if I sat on escort sites, I could pull half the white girls in the industry down as post links.

    Let’s stick to the topic, because if their was ever time for a change, now is it.

  129. justinlong Says:

    I SIR HAVE A HURRICANE IN ME THAT WILL WIPE CLEAN THAT FALSE SINCE OF ENTITLEMENT YOU SO EGARLY GRIN WITH AND THAT SINCE OF PRIDE YOU CARRY IN YOUR VERY WALK THAT PROCLAIMS YOU ARE KING DUE TO YOUR COLOR.

    VERY SIMPLY PUT “YOU PISSED OFF THE WRONG NEGRO”

    I AINT FINISHED WITH THE DISCRIMINATORY ASS’S OF PEOPLE IN THIS INDUSTRY BY A FUCKIN LONG SHOT. I’M FIGGIN TO GET MID EVIL ON YO ASS… BET ON THAT!!!! OR AS IN THE “WICKED” FILM “BET ON BLACK”

  130. anthonyk Says:

    I see that the Black Nationalist wing has joined in the feast here to condemn and bury Justin for the crime of being a Black male performer who degrades his race by first participating in IR porn with supposedly racist White women doing “degrading” things that no respectful Black man should be caught dong..and then doubling down on his alleged hypcorisy by boycotting IR companies for not paying Black performers enough.

    Of course, if Justin would simply either shut his damm mouth and just take the damn money and do the scenes, OR he simply avoided the “degradation” of IR porn to begin with and stuck with only the best, politically correct Black-on-Black porn and bypassed all those greedy racist White ‘ho’s altogether, then he would be considered in these eyes more of a credible authority. /sarcasm

    But, since he decided that enough was too much and that maybe it was time to take a public stand and reveal to all the discrimination that exists in this industry, he must be assaulted as either: (1) a anti-White bigot who simply hates White women; or (2) a self-hating Black hypocrite who screams racism at everything while getting paid doing the very scenes he criticizes.

    That says more about the people criticizing him here than it ever says about Justin Long.

    Drive-by smack at Monica Foster for her private escorting when she attempts to give her honest opinion says aplenty, too.

    Of course, the answer to her question is so obvious that even Ray Charles and Stevie Wonder could see it: because Black women in porn are treated as the same kind of “stepping stones” in an industry dominated by and appealing to trollish old right-wing White men.

    But, I would dare “Themouth” to run that kind of smack towards someone like Marie Luv; he would get paid with a sttiletto sandwich.

    Anthony

  131. TSmackDog Chronicles Says:

    […] first released to porn venues across the Internet (including AINews.com [here] and LukeIsBack.com [here]), Long explains and justifies his decision. Some sample […]

  132. joe know Says:

    Now I’ve heard it all.

    The porn industry, according to Anthony is “…dominated by,and appealing to trollish old RIGHT-WING White men.”

    I never knew the “right wing” dominated the porn industry. I guess you learn something everyday. Anthony, do you have any more of these ever so insighful obsevations you would like to share with the rest of us ignorant hood wearing good ole boys.

    And in your other paragraph I choose number two. And I couldnt have said it better myself,>>”a self hating black hypocrite who screams racism at everything while getting paid doing the very scenes he criticizes.” (Very well put Anthony)

    ALL porn performers, male, female, black, white, green or purple are ALL exploited by the producers. They are paid to degrade themselves for the amusement of others. That is what the consumers want, and that is what the consumers pay for, and that is what they get.

    Like Tim Conneley, formerley with AVN once said, regarding how perfromers are treated in the industry,…”Essentially they are just day laborers.”

    And for the final time, I do not disagree with what Justin is saying, I am just pointing out his hypocrisy. Let he who is without sin throw the first stone.

  133. justinlong Says:

    “Racial Equality” by law, is deserved by all. Doesn’t matter if you are a rapist or a priest. A sinner or a saint. This is the issue Joe Knows is skipping over.

  134. justinlong Says:

    And i would’nt be quoting anything from anyone from a comapny that, themselves (AVN) fired a ranking executive for “selling awards for advertising and sexual favors”.

    Thats like quoting Charles Manson on some shit.

  135. joe know Says:

    I’m not skipping over anthing. Like I have said several times, I agree with the majority of what you are saying, but i am just pointing out your personal hypocrisy as a spokesperson on this issue.

    I see you still have the racist themed movie on your myspace page. yeah, you lead the fight against racism. Good for you, sticking up for all those “talmales”, white trash whores,ghetto chocolate milfs, and bubble butt bitches(every term used here is in the titles of movies with jstin Long on the iafd database)

    Everything you are bringing up is absolutely true. I never said anything different.

    But NOTHING will change as long as there are people who are willing to continue to make these movies. I think you would have been better off to say that you arent going to do racist streotype porn anymore. Now that is something that everybody could get behind and support. You put yourself into a box, and you need to open that box up to everyone in the industry who has been exploited, from the tamales, to the big butt ghetto bitches, to the white trash whores.

    Youre either part of the problem, or part of the solution. It just looks to me like you want to have it both ways. Expoloitation, degredation and discrimination are the very foundation of the porn industry. You need to man up and admit your part, THEN move forward fighting this very real fight. We are ALL guilty, myself included, and I admit that. When you do the same, the level of respect that you get will rise immediately. But accusing people of being KKK does NOTHING to further your agenda(as noble as that agenda is) Whether you like it or not, and I would guess you dont, you NEED white people to support you to achieve any success in this fight. Whithout white support you are just preaching to the choir. Is this fair,,,NO. Is this the way it is…YES

  136. FlyLovelace Says:

    As an African American woman I prefer not to see black men fucking other races. I no longer watch interracial porn its either caucasian on caucasian or African American on African American. There are too many talented African American female adult actresses out there and you don’t see a lot of them fucking white men without it being some crazy fetish type shit. Its time an adult actor decided to stop fucking those prepubescent caucasian girls and stuck to his black queens! I’m so proud of you Mr. Long!

  137. joe know Says:

    Flylove,(great name)
    As an African American woman, what is your opinion on the overtly racist themes in alot of porn that features African American performers, both male and female. Things like “Ghetto Booty”.”White Trash Whores” etc.

    ANd what do you think of other black men here that compare the message of an epic like “Roots” to the message that the average IR porn flick?

  138. justinlong Says:

    Joe Knows,

    I have admitted it. Look back at the post’s borther. Second I have stopped shooting them, Look back at the post brother. Racism will stop in the industry, or people will loose their companies or shoot white on white period. look back at the post brother. I have made a stand for it all. Not part not some, rather for it all. I am part of the solution. I lead no one. I have acchieved what I wanted too. I have brought public awareness to a problem that has exploited all but more then its fair share exploited blacks all the while discriminating against them as well.

    I am not a “Martin Luther King Jr.” of porn valley. I speak for myself and if black performers that have spoken with me in private want to stand up for what they believe, which make no mistake, is what I believe, then they will do so.

    I have never rallied for a boycott (yet) and won’t say that I will or will not in the future. Make no mistake though. Change is on the horizon my brother, and when blacks have “real” decisions they are allowed to make, without having to leave their career to escape discrimination. They will do so, and on that day, all that have oppressed or discriminated, will never be so sad and haunted again.

    Think about it logically, brothers are already denying to shoot with any girl who has “ever” not done IR at some point in her career.

    These are some of the top male performers in the world. Is it most? No not yet, and I do not control or convince these men.

    However, the trend has started. Studio’s can’t stop it. Fans can’t stop it. Shit I certainly can’t stop it.

    No matter what, if you really want to, you will find, others as well, something to complain about regarding me. My history, my life, my color, my actions, thoughts, writings, and character.

    I can’t stop that, and to tell you the truth honestly I do not care. I am a guy that made a stand, and said no more.

    Not to some, or part, but all. I’m not stopping my career as you, and others wish I would. Instead I wil continue with layed plans.

    When you see my name on product as a producer. Then you can try to rip it apart. You won’t be successfull though, because I sir have no issues with other races. I eat all pussy equal.

  139. justinlong Says:

    Wouldn’t that be a hoot if absolute change came tomorrow?

    Think of the chicks that have been doggin blacks, and refusing to do IR. They have been waiting for a big pay day to do there first IR scene, and all of a sudden found out that there wait was in vain, and no longer were they not ONLY not going to get that big payday, but had just been banned by some black caucus from ever being able to shoot with blacks again, EVER.

    Will it happen? Maybe, maybe not. Tomorrow? Doubt it highly! Could it happen in the near future? Oh very much so. The wind has shifted people. This very post has changed the industry, forever. Doesn’t matter if you believe that or not, but it’s fact.

  140. joe know Says:

    Justin,
    Just out of curiosity, where was your outrage when three of your fellow adult film stars got HIV while perfoming in the ” double anal, big black brothas splitting the little white booty scene.”

    The industry did nothing for them, and by nothing, I mean absolutely nothing. The industry did noting for Darren either. Where was your outrage then? Did you speak up then about those injustices, or was it that back in 2004 the industry was booming for performers, and you were making too much money for yourself to give a shit about anybody else?

    You talk about the industry being unfair to blacks, what about the thousands of female performers who have gotten life altering diseases from this industry?

    And no female in this biz is going to make less money because a few brothas wont work with them. Those brothas who wont work with white girls will be replaced faster than you can say.”Can we all get along?”

    And yes the wind has shifted in this industry, but its not the wind you think it is. It is the wind of government regulation, that will have producers paying for the diseases that are cuased by their product. This is a real change that is happiening, not a dream.

  141. justinlong Says:

    Joe Knows,

    Did you even know Darren James? From what I know you are a fan! You know what is wrote my firend, so quit playing like you actually live work and are in front of the camera here. See just like my last post said, you will ALWAYS have some thing to bitch about.

    To answer your question specifically. I was not in the industry when Darren contracted HIV. I was not in the state when Darren contracted HIV, and if you knew me, then you would know I have also been yelling full panel testing for the last five years since I cam back in the industry.

    Darren James, and I spent alot of time together sitting in Jim South’s office when I was young, and he was continuing in the industry. I felt horrible for him when I saw the headlines on the news finally. You speak of what you do not know.

    You think what you want, done trying to even ammuse you. You sir, have more issues then Dr. Phill could even help. This discussion and thread is about “racial discrimination” not testing HIV or any other thing.

    I’m not gonna argue about where you think the industry is going to go. You sir are not black, and you sir have no clue what black people talk about with other black people. You NO absolutely nothing but what WE tell you. Make no mistake, if black people stand together, they could bring the industry to its knee’s, that dear Joe is fact.

    Uhhhh and Joe, disease doesn’t discriminate like you do. Femels, and males alike contract those. Read your own post.

  142. joe know Says:

    Justin,

    You sir are not white, and you sir have no clue what white peole talk about with other white people. You NO(lol) KNOW absolutely nothing but what WE tell you. Make no mistake, if white people stand togehter they could bring the industry to its knees, that dear Justin is a fact.

    Just because you werent in the industry back then doesnt mean you donthave an opinion on it. You should walk a mile in darrens shoes, and see what its like for a black man with HIV!!!!!!!!!!

    Justin logic,
    Black man knows all about white man, but white man knows nothing about black man.

    here is what this white man does know, YOU ARE ALL BEING EXPLOITED, financially,physically, mentally.

    75% of all std’s reproted by AIM to the county(bylaw) are females. Females in this industry carry a physical burden that males(unless you take it up the ass too) never experience. Males dont get throat infections from doing ATM. Males dont have their asses and vaginas ripped apart.Males dont have to let the gonnoreah filled cum sink into their eyes and nose while their pictures get taken. Men dont have to swallow loads of chalmycia filled jizz. Men dont have the complications from multile exposures to HPV.(cervical cancer) Men dont have to take birth control drugs. Men dont have to get abortions. Men dont get Pelvic Inflamatory Disease, and men dont become sterile from these mutliple exposures.
    And you Justin, are so concderned with the plight of the black man in the adult industry. The black man, or any man, doesnt face what females in this industry face every single day, so excuse me for not feeling bad about those IR dodging bitches.
    Justin, when was the last time you took two ten inch cock up your ass, and had to deal with the physical ramifications of that decision? How many diseased filled cum load have you swallowed lately?

    For you to try to insinuate that males and females are equal in the std exposure is just pure ignorance.

    Asfar as HIV goes, theres, Darrn, marc wallice, john holmes, and tony montana…….And how many females Justin?

  143. justinlong Says:

    Joe Knows,

    Did you even know Darren James? I did!!!

    From what I know you are a fan! I know you are not talent spouting that ridiculous shit. You know what is wrote my firend, so quit playing like you actually live, work, and are in front of the camera here.

    See just like my last post said, you will ALWAYS have some thing to bitch about. Mad that my article is true Joe? Looking to stand to loose money with change JOE? You are a very sad man. The funny part is. Unless you are talent, OUR testing issues are just that, OUR problem.

    To answer your question specifically. I was not in the industry when Darren contracted HIV. So save you bullshit assuming sentence of;

    “Where was your outrage then? Did you speak up then about those injustices, or was it that back in 2004 the industry was booming for performers, and you were making too much money for yourself to give a shit about anybody else?”

    I was gone for 5 1/2 years Joe. So see, you don’t know me at all.. “Go fuck yourself, OK”.. Darren James was/is a friend of mine buddy… So for you to use him as an example to try to get my goat, now see the real thug want’s to come out in me.

    (had to earase shit here)

    A lot of brothas “are” from the street’s. It’s not all acting Joe. Thier are consequences for words homie. Thats fact also.

    I was not in the state, or industry when Darren contracted HIV, and if you knew me, then you would know I have also been yelling “Mandatory Full Panel Testing” for the last five years since I came back in the industry.

    Darren James, and I spent alot of time together sitting in Jim South’s office when I was young, and he was continuing in the industry. I felt horrible for him, and every one envolved when I saw the headlines on the news finally.

    You speak of what you do not know. The fact is, is we all accept that risk smart guy.

    You think what you want, I’m done trying to even amuse you. You sir, have more issues then Dr. Phill could even help. This discussion and thread is about “Racial Discrimination” not testing, HIV, or any other thing else for that matter.

    I’m not gonna argue about where you think the industry is going to go. Quite simply put, you are an idiot, and assume things rather then doing your homework. While you were on porn star data base looking for a smoking gun, you should have looked, and seen that their are NO new shot movies with me in them from 99′ – 04′ dumb ass. Compliations more then likely though.

    You sir are not black, and you sir have no clue what black people talk about with other black people. You KNOW absolutely nothing, but what WE tell you. Make no mistake, if black people stand together, they could bring the industry to its knee’s, that dear Joe is fact.

    Uhhhh and Joe, disease doesn’t discriminate like you do. Females, and males alike contract those. Read your own post, Where you just tried to make an example out of my friend who ultimately will give his life, so you could jerk off, or make money. We still don’t know, because you still have your hood on Joe.

    Justin “No Hood” Long
    Adult Film Star

  144. joe know Says:

    Question for female performers here,

    Do you think there would be more stringent regulations regarding std’s if MALES suffered from them the same way females do?

    Do you think there would be testing for HPV if it cause penile cancer instead of cervical cancer?

    You talk about justice in the porn industry, but hey, who cares about those fucking ho bitches, right Justin. Where do they go to get their justice Justin, are you going to speak out for them?

    Men dont have to shove sponges up their snatch to cathc the blood.
    Men dont have to drink bacteria filled piss.
    Men dont get gonnoreah in the throat and ass.

  145. joe know Says:

    Yes Justin,
    You all accept that risk becuase the producer demands that of you. If you tried to make an issue out of this like you are about the racial angle, youwould be gone in a minute.

    You dont have any other choice but to accpt it. You either take the risk, or take a walk. YOU DONT HAVE A SAY IN THE MATTER. Dont try to make it look like YOU are making the decision. That decision is being made for you, by the big bad white man. And he is so good at pulling the wool over your eyes that you actually believe that YOU are making that choice. Thats why its called exploitaiong. Its smart people taking advantage of less intelligent indiviuals like yoourself, and then makein you belive that you are making the choice. Are you really that blind that you dont see this?

    DID some of posts get mixed up? I

  146. justinlong Says:

    LOL you are an idiot.. at least we know you are a women now. So, you mean you don’t want to use the “well they let it happen to em so, it propigates it” arguement for womens disease? Why not you used it and beat it like a dead horse against blacks on racial dicrimination of blacks.

    Until you take off your hood… you get nothing from me. See the diference between you, and I is I have a set of balls and dont hide. Lets find out who you are? Shall we? Then lets go through your little closet and see if “Josiphine” is Mr. pot or Mr. Kettle. Sittin here maybe shootin as “you say”, but now crying for womens disease that you possibly profit from or jerk off too, either way, you enable it.

    THIS THREAD AND ARTICLE IS ABOUT RACIAL DISCRIMINATION ….

    SORRY, IF GIRLS HAVE A COMPLAINT, “THEY NEED TO START THE CHANGE’.

    I’m sorry i can not speak intelligently about womens disease – Justin i.e. a dude. bro/homegirl?

    Would I stand behind them for better work conditions? YES, I sure would. I love to help people, and I wouldn’t even discriminate against girls that don’t do IR in that fight. It’s a womens issue NOT a RACIAL issue (oh by the way that is what this thread is about)

    Funny, I have gone out in committed relationships with a couple/few Porn Star’s and fact is I was at the Doctor a shit load more then she was. Just sayin.. not argueing.. just pointing out fact.

  147. justinlong Says:

    Joe Knows

    At last AT last !!!!!! You have finally proven yourself, that your old argeument bullshit!!!!!

    “Yes Justin,
    You all accept that risk becuase the producer demands that of you. If you tried to make an issue out of this like you are about the racial angle, youwould be gone in a minute.”

    So you say if we make an argument about racial discrimination with a producer about the racial titles and movies he makes you now admit

    “we would be gone in a minute”

    Fuckin AHY.. hay do me a favor.. smile you offically look like an idiot.

    Go back and tell colonel you finally conceaded that blacks have no choice but to work or quit.. BY YOUR words “we would be gone in a minute”

    Congrats, you figured out what all blacks havwe known and live with everyday in the industry.. LOL

    AGAIN THIS ARTICLE AND THREAD IS ABOUT RACIAL DISCRIMINATION

  148. joe know Says:

    And since you want to call me a racist, with thathood wearing statement the gloves are off…

    You are a fucking ignorant uncle tom, who couldnt do anything better with his life but become a prostitute for the white man. And now ycou want to play Martin Fuckig Luter King, and stan up for all the black prostitutes in the porn industry.

    You are so fucking stupid that you think that the black prostitutes banding together will bring the industry to its knees. YOU GOT TO BE KIDDING. You could all walk tomorrow, and by next monday you would be forgotten about. And a hundted other equally ignorant hood rats would take your place.

    roll that in your blunt and smoke it brother. You are as insignificant to this industry as some little white girl who does one ghetto gangbang and then leave the industry.

    So, if I’m a hood wearing member of the KKK, what does that make you?

  149. justinlong Says:

    PS I do have a say.. hehe.. all my movies I personally will be wearing a condom.. too much risk !!!

  150. justinlong Says:

    Makes me the one that stayed dignified. First i’m gonna find out who you are, then I’m gonna copy and print this, then i’m gonna give it to all the black talent, then you will be the one leaving.

    Nice Being your hood rat Joe

  151. justinlong Says:

    And the racist come out!!!! Guess I was dead on with that article huh.. Too many in the industry we are just “Niggers”. Guess we know who one of those are huh… Ingnorant Uncle Tom? Ignorant Hood Rat? LOL

    Thank you Joe,

  152. joe know Says:

    Justin,
    YOU got it wrong again. I said that if you made an issue out of the diseases in the industry you would be gone in a minute. The disease issue is going to cost producers money. Having to replace a bunch of black prostitutes isnto\ going to cost them a single dime.

    Funny how racial discrimination is so importnt to you, but the discrimination that women in the industry face everday it not your concern.

    You dont have the guts to tackle the disease issue and that affects everyone.

    P.s. For a college educated person your reading comprehension skills are seriously lacking. And all of the assumptions you and others have DREAMED up about me in order to try to discredit me are laughable at best.
    According to y’all I am a female, feminist, right wing, Shelley Lubben folowing, KKK member, jerk off porn fanatic. Did I get them all.

    But we all know what you are Justin…A PROSTITUTE.

    And as far as the “IF THE GIRLS HAVE A PROBLEM THEY NEED TO START THE CHANGE” Does that go for the black girls too Justin?

  153. justinlong Says:

    Let the insults fly but keep the hood on… LOL Some things haven’t changed in 150 years, have they?

  154. justinlong Says:

    Ahhh now Joe man up for your words.. we’ll let the world judge.. You sit their and contemplate who knows your real identity, and worry about eviction from LA..

    Hay you said what you said.. now have the balls to live with it, even if you dont have the balls to say it without using your real name.. no worries mate, where use to people like you. We have had 200+ years of experience.

  155. jeremiahsteele Says:

    “Can’t we all get along?”

  156. joe know Says:

    Thef black girls face all of the racial discrimination that you do Justin, PLUS theyface all of the other physical ailments that you as man never have to worry about. I, as a man dont hauve to worry about it either becuase i am not a prostitute who is dumb eough to have unprotected sex with other prostitutes so some white man can make money off me.

    ANd I love that threat in your post above. Is that the best you can do. Really dignified. SO big nam, just what are you going to do. You have been very outdoken here and very direct. Dont you have the guts to at least be specific with your intenet warrior threats?

    What is that sound I just heard.ah, .. Just Mr. Longs credibility crasshing to the ground by making internet threats. Yeah that is a real intelligent way to get the people that you need to help you fight this battle.(white guys) WIthout white support you got nothing.
    Martin Luther King would be proud of you.

  157. joe know Says:

    Yeah,
    Youve had 200 years of experience with the white man. Two way street buddy boy, that means mr whitey has had 200 year of experience with you.

    YOU ARE THE ONE WHO RESORTED TO THREATS BECAUSE YOUR ARGUMENT IS SO WEAK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    go back and read your own post Justin….you made the KKK references first when your uncle tom hypocrisywas pointed out.

    Cant stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen.

    And as far as your pussy bitch little threats go, shove them up your black ass and then pay some whore to suck them out.

    You have made a carreer out of being a clown for the white man.(whether or not you will admit that to yourself, it doesnt matter, its true) I can understand how you might feel bitter now that youre a little older and maybe a little wiser. And now justin is going ot get his revenge by not doing IR scenes anymore. WOW YOUR NAME WILL GO DOWN IN HISTROY WITH MARTIN, MALCOM,BARAK,AND RODNEY.

  158. justinlong Says:

    Joe Knows

    LOL Eviction means many things. Talent, is the one I will be using. Like I said I am pretty sure who you are. Woodland hills huh? Up the street from topanga Auto body is it? Take a left and so on..

    You my friend embarrased your race quite badly. Maybe you should be quite for a while and let others do damage control for you for a while. Eviction= NO talent for you to make money off Joe.. LOL.. as if I would risk a felony over your dumb ass LOL..

  159. joe know Says:

    Justin,
    I could never be as big an embarrassment to my race as you and your fellow prostitutes have. I dont take money to act the fool and degrade my own people. YOU ARE THE ONE WHO DOES THAT!

    And for the record, you dont have a clue as towho I am. Get over it. You dont know now, and you never will. If you feel like you know who I am, feel free to print it right here, right now,just stop with all the veiled threats, they make you look even more stupid, if thats even possible.

    And stop trying to insinuate that you have the power to get someone black balled from the industry(no pun intended) Yeah Justin, you control the talent,RIGHT!! If you have such power, to control the talent and EVICT people from the indsutry, thenwhy are you here complaining about the racism, and the racist white company owners. If you have so much power why dont you just EVICT them from Los Angeles.(LOfuckingL)

    Youre a clown, a prostitute clown, who has finally realized that he has been dancing for the white man his entire “career” our and now your black rage is pushing you to get even. WOW, you really showed the white man Justin, youre not doing IR anymore. What a noble stand. Youre a true icon Justin, live it up.
    You have about 13 minutes left. This is getting attention now but it will be forgtten in a matter of days……Hell, just ask Darren how fast this industry forgets, and how little they care. Ask Jessica, Missy, Lara,Barbara, tricia, Brooke,Tony,caroline, etc. IF this industy doesnt care about HIV what makes you think youre going to change anything? Good luck. If you realy want to adress the racial discrimination issue, get someone who has some credibility to speak up. You dont cut the mustard.

  160. marsit Says:

    Joe Knows = Troll

  161. justinlong Says:

    So this was written today folks By a self proclaimed porngrapher, who admittedly is white. He agrees with (most) of my article, and look back 6 or 7 post’s, and you will see he even confirmed the part that he does not agree with to be true.

    I AM RE-POSTING HIS POST AS IT IS “PROOF” THAT RACISM EXIST IN THE INDUSTRY. THESE ARE SOME OF THE TYPES OF PEOPLE BLACKS HAVE TO DEAL WITH DAILY IN OUR WORK ENVIROMENT!!!!

    _____________________________________________________
    Today at 9:11 p (1 hour ago)
    1.joe know Says:

    And since you want to call me a racist, with thathood wearing statement the gloves are off…

    You are a fucking ignorant uncle tom, who couldnt do anything better with his life but become a prostitute for the white man. And now ycou want to play Martin Fuckig Luter King, and stan up for all the black prostitutes in the porn industry.

    You are so fucking stupid that you think that the black prostitutes banding together will bring the industry to its knees. YOU GOT TO BE KIDDING. You could all walk tomorrow, and by next monday you would be forgotten about. And a hundted other equally ignorant hood rats would take your place.

    roll that in your blunt and smoke it brother. You are as insignificant to this industry as some little white girl who does one ghetto gangbang and then leave the industry.

    So, if I’m a hood wearing member of the KKK, what does that make you?

    _____________________________________________________

    Joe I am a disabled veteran, and a college educated black male. To be compared to MLK, Malcom X, Obama and others (look back two post at joe knows post) I would be honored, but EVEN I WOULDN’T TRY TO PLACE MYSELF IN SUCH HIGHLY ESTEEMED COMPANY

    After all joe, I’m just a “Ignorant uncle tom, and an Ignorant hood rat, black prostitute”, right?

    Well I guess that makes you a “trick”, and don’t look now but your post makes you a “racist”.

    I sir am a Genteleman, an adult film star, a business owner, a radio show creator, and executive producer, and a college graduate.

  162. joe know Says:

    Thank you for that insightful comment marsit. resort to name calling when you got nothing else. You add so much to the debate. To bad we’re not all as witty and wise as you. Imagine how much more intersting this debate would be if we had more people.with your amazing intellect particating here.
    Thanks for your contribution. I’m sitting on the edge of my chair in anticipation of your next contribution.

    I bet you and Justin are probably intellectual equals. You two should get a room.

  163. joe know Says:

    Justin, you fucking dumbass,
    When did I ever say I was in the pornogrpahy industryour imagination is really running wild.

    I NEVER SAID I WAS IN THE INDUSTRY YOU MORON.

  164. joe know Says:

    ‘ADULT FILM STAR’….A term used by prostitutes who turn tricks on camera for the amusement of the general public.

    Even Sharon Mitchell and Nina Hartley in the Porn 101 video say, “Dont kid yourself. You are getting paid to have sex. Theres alot of words for it, but a rose by any other name is still a rose.” And this is from two of the most repected people in the industry. ANd this rose is a prostitute.

  165. joe know Says:

    And Justin,
    Didnt you say yesterday that your were done posting here?

    If there is one thing that male performers in the industry hate it is being called a prostitute. Not just because its true, but because it puts them on the same level as the female prostitutes. And when male performers(prostitutes) realize that this industry(and porn consumers) think the same of them as they do the women, they cant handle it and they lash out. It ruins the superior felling that they have over the women, and their self esteem justtakes a nose dive……But it sure is amusing to watch.

  166. marsit Says:

    not name call’n just call’n u out :).Every comment u’ve made has b’n actions = 2 a troll

    Someone who posts inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, chat room or blog, with the primary intent of provoking other users into a desired emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.In addition to the offending poster, the noun “troll” can also refer to the provocative message itself, as in that was an excellent troll you posted. While the term troll and its associated action, trolling, are primarily associated with Internet discourse, media attention in recent years has made such labels highly subjective, with trolling being used to describe many intentionally provocative actions outside of an online context.

    n da 1 wit nothing 2 say is u.
    get a life or do ur homework

    “ty wiki ;)”

  167. justinlong Says:

    See Joe now I’m just confused guy.. if you ARE NOT a pornographer, then basically you are telling us you ARE TALKING OUT YOUR ASS.. You read an AVN or blog and think you know what goes on here? Wow, man you are just putting one foot in the grave after another tonight.

    LOL, man you really have no clue or life for that matter.. You sit on a blog all day BUT ARE NOT IN THE PORN INDUSTRY.. talk about porn, obvviously watch porn… Now fans giving their opinion is cool (i really respect their opinion) but wow Joe you actually try to talk like you know.

    OK, going to a convention and getting a picture with a contract star, DOESN”T MEAN YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENS HERE OR WWHAT THE POLITICS ARE.

    Joe i think we both know and if we read back can prove you have implied quite a few things here to make yourself appear as some authoritative expert.
    LOL

    I’m gonna take a guess. Joe do you work @ an adult book store? It’s ok if you do I have friends that own them and friends that work at em. They too think they know porn. I can now tell you have NO wife. If you do she don’t put out, because you are on here all night.

    That would make you that single white male that jerks off to porn? Hay the demographic for all the big studio’s. Did’nt think you were unb-bias anyway. Joe, listen carefull. I watch the discovery channel all the time and love space programs, BUT IT DONT MEAN I COULD PILOT THE FUCKING SPACE SHUTTLE BUDDY

    Your rants are now opinion and opinion from some one that has never been behind or in front of a camera. You have never worked at a studio, or AIM. You know the people you refer to like friends as a fan. JOE KNOWS SHIT!!!!! Thats fact

  168. marsit Says:

    JL my man don’t give this fo his bread n butter (he probably wack’n off 2 the lil bit of attention he’s gett’n) N as u said “JOE KNOWS SHIT!!!!! Thats fact” here here
    I 2nd that.

  169. joe know Says:

    And just to be fair,
    Those threats you make are very gentleman like.

    And for what its worth, YOU calling me a KKK member is as insulting as me calling you an ignorant uncle tom……not to be childish, YOU went there first. You went there several times before i did.

    Dont try to play the victim with me….

    ANd stop with the speculation as to my identity and motives. You have no clue aboutny of it. Do yoursel a favor and read my other rants . Youwill see my agenda has always ben the fair treatment of all performers. You sir, are making yourself look like a fool with your threats and assumptions.

  170. justinlong Says:

    Stick a fork in ya your done.. and i said i wouldn’t post anymore on colonels thread you idiot… it is merely an attempt to remove public views from my article which is the TRUTH with out all the hpye and false statements.. LOL.. you and he are probably blog buddies.. wooo whoo.. Do you want me to send you some digned movies bud?

    I got some with some hot girls in em.. you know the chicks you jerk off too (the prostitutes) I actually fuck em.. maybe thats why you are mad.. Joe, did I stick my ignorant black cock in your favorite star and now your mad because it ruined your fantasy?????

    Man I’m sorry dog, but you know us “ignorant Uncle Tom’s” just love them white women..

    Judge I’m done with this one.. send the next racist so I can destory his arguement as well. LOL

    Notice Colonele aint postin. Pretty much shut him up with the whole sean, lex and marcus never doing degrading movies thing huh? yeah take a look at porn star data base.. LOL.. lex went under the name Black Bastard you fucking idiots, Look at some of the titles.. LOL

    And PS DONT EVER SAY THE INDUSTRY FORGOT ABOUT THE PEOPLE THAT CONRACTED HIV, BECAUSE YOU AINT IN THE FUCKIN INDUSTRY. TO YOU THATS AN EXAMPLE AND TO US IT’S A DAILY REMINDER TO ALL OF US WHAT WE DO FOR FUCKS LIKE YOU THAT DONT GET NO PUSSY AND NEED A PORN TO EVEN SEE A PUSSY.. SO FUCK YOU JOE YOU PIECE OF SHIT.

    YOU AINT NO FAN YOUR A PATHETIC PIECE OF SHIT THAT TALKS ABOUT PEOPLE AND THINGS THAT HE DOESN’T KNOW. YOU’RE A FUCKIN USED CAR SALESMEN, AND A TABLOID READER. GO BY YOUR NEW VIVID FEATURE WITH A BITCH THAT DISCRIMINATES AND WHEN SHE KISSES YOU AT THE CONVENTION I HOPE SHE HADN’T CLEANED UP AND YOU GET SOME OF MY JIZZ ON YOU LOL

  171. jeremiahsteele Says:

    … and on a less serious note,

    Justin, you say you’re not doing any interracial, but you’re a product of two races, so, no matter what you do or who you screw, that means there’s some white meat in the scene. There’s no true black on black in your scenes. You can’t win, man. lol.

  172. marsit Says:

    joe know
    lolz unlike u i read to understand u read 2 judge, distract n disrupt.

    Some1 has presented a valid opinion n u have found n u to just troll da hell out n b a nuisance.

    N now like a bad Commercial Ad i will ignore u n hope dat u will go away.

    i hope u find another place 2 lay(ur ignorance)

  173. joe know Says:

    Keep it up justin………I guess If I dont work in the auto industry I couldnt possibly know anything about cars. If I dont work in the plumbing industry I couldnt possibly knwo how to change a faucet washer. If I dont work in porn i couldnt possbly know anything abou it.

    What if I told you my brother owns one of the biggest porn companies in the world? What if my sister was one of the biggest stars the industry has ever seen? What if my father was the main plaintiff in one of the biggest court cases that legalized porn in california?

    AGAIN, your imaginary assumptions are making you look like a fool. Trying to discredit the messenger when you have nothing else to say is actually a FACIST techique to silence opposition. ALL of your little rants that try to humiliate me do NOTHING to further your agenda.

    ANd that “you have no life” comment. What a well thought out response. It really goes to the heart of the argument.

    what pisses you off most is that i know who you are and you dont know who i am. Its obvious that it is kkking you. So you keep making up your little stories Justin, and I will keep calling you a prostitute. But the differnce is, your little stories are false, and you are a prostitute.

  174. joe know Says:

    Marsit,
    Since we’re trading insults, did you learn that creative writing style from your eight year old neice?

    And your use of the word “dat” realy makes you come across as a real ghetto thug. I be shakin in my boots.

  175. jeremiahsteele Says:

    this thread is burning hotter and faster than the valley in fire season

    enough alphabet soup to feed the entire nation of indonesia…

  176. joe know Says:

    ‘Alphabet soup’
    Jerry, thanks for the chuckle.
    Jerry, why dont you explain to everyone here that I am a part of the great white porn conspiracy to keep the black man down. Have a good night Steele, stay healthy and safe.

  177. justinlong Says:

    Marsit,

    Yeah I know I’m done with this fuck. The whole using darren as an example thing pissed me off, as I spent many of hours with Darren while we were both here.

    The fact remains this is an article and thread about “Racial Discrimination” true enough I got side tracked. Freakin having to deal with idiots. My appologies to all used car salesmen out their. I feel ya, and hope you industry gets better soon as well.

    To all the dudes that get no pussy, i feel you all too. Wasn’t always a porn star you know. Just for clarification, I will not be jizzing on any VIVID contract girls, but I still hope dumb ass gets some on him, from one of em though.

    Back on track people. I’m here, I think it fair to say We have’nt had a reasonable comment yet as to why “racial discrimination” is allowed or tolerated in the adult industry.

    Leave a comment and let us know what you think

  178. justinlong Says:

    LOL brothers and sisters and father my ass.. your a sad fuck sitting at home jerkin off to lani barbie you fucking idiot.

    You know shit about me.. LOL.. I dare you to introduce yourself to me sometime.. but hay you can’t cant even grow a pair to say who you really are!!!! you’re a joke a farse and a looser bud.. thats who you are.. LOL

  179. joe know Says:

    Justin, funnu you would mention that kissat the convention…..just for kciks justin, how many times have you gotten std’s. Which ones and how many times? YOU FUCK WHORES WITH NO PROTECTION. YOU ARE PROBABLY A WALKING TALKING RESEVOIR OF DISEASE.

    RACIAL DISCRIMINATION IS TOLERATED BECAUSE THERE WILL ALWAY BE PEOPLE LIKE JUSTIN WILLING TO DEGRADE THEIR OWN PEOPLE FOR A PAYCHECK. IT IS TOLERATED AS LONG AS THE CHECK CLEARS. NOW THAT JUSTIN HAS STOPPED(and good for him)THERE WILL BE MANY MORE LINED UP TO TAKE HIS PLACE.

    Justin, where is your outrage at the black performers who continue perpetuate the stereotypes that you are no longer comfotable with? Will you name any performers who you think are perpetuating these stereotypes or would you rather not rock the boat too much. CALL OUT YOUR OWN PEOPLE FIRST, CLEAN YOUR OWN HOUSE, AND THEN GET BACK ON YOUR SOAP BOX.

  180. joe know Says:

    Jstin,
    call me alooser, a joke, anything you want if it makes you feel better about yourself.
    Look, you are the one who made a carreer out of degrading his own peopel. you have to live with that. But you have to look inside yourslef and give yourself the forgiveness that you need for makeing amockery of your own poeple. Your obvious self loathing will only burn you up in the long run. You are looking for people to agree with you, and validate the poor decisions youve been making. Well you aint gettin that from me so you lash out, make up stories, and call names.

    But until you come to grips with your own ridiculling of your own people, youre never going to move on.

    He who lives in a glass house shouldnt throw stones.

    Youre a prostitute who takes money to degrade his own people. I would be angry too if i had to live with that.

  181. marsit Says:

    last word lolz

  182. DFuller77 Says:

    Is this shit still going on, and the one who doesn’t watch black guys fucking white girl I got to say this this person FUCK You N*GGER Bitch. I am black and I watch IR myself. As for Justin, better started getting a second job because black on black porn sin’t paying that much.

  183. justinlong Says:

    marsit,

    yes, last word is always needed by some. Thats ok though. LOL the movemnt is getting stronger and bigger and more attenion. Just alone yesterday, it went into another three publications. It’s about to hit a new mainstream audience as well. I have 3 radio interviews lined up, and the facts speak for themselves so I’m sure things will be fine.

    The article in Ainews looked good. We’ll see if the other industry news publications will pick it up, as they rarely run any story that has to do with blacks unless advertising dolars are or attached.

    Can’t thank you all enough (even the ones I don’t really care for) for all your help in bringing the attention due to this story, and topic. God willing, change will come.

  184. joe know Says:

    Lifted from Pornlaw off of ADT…
    You cannot work in anindustry that was founded on the priciples of free speech and the First Amendment and then declare that free speech should be regulated. Racist speech, just like prnographic speech is protected. It is axiomatic that without one you dont have the other. It is inconsistent for someone who has had a career of making/perfoming in films that others others find disguting and revolting TO NOW COMPLAIN OF SPEECH “they” FIND TO BE DISGUSTIN AND REVOLTING. As someone who believes in the first amendment I must also support speech which I may not personally beleive in.

    Well Said Pornlaw……..

    so Justin, is pornlaw a hood wearing racist, or is he just correct.

    Cant have your cake and eat it too.

    11 minutes and counting left…..

  185. justinlong Says:

    I know pornlaw and have talked to him about this. We don’t see eye to eye and honestly law is ambigous. What i can tell you is the law has never sighted the 1st admendment as a legal defense for racial discrimination in employment law..

  186. justinlong Says:

    think for yourself idiot and let others argue their own points.. don’t try it I am friends with pornlaw and when you try to recite him you make his arguements look real stupid. Well at least we know YOU are not an attorney there mr. racist

  187. justinlong Says:

    I know you’ll come back saying you’re not a racist, so i’ll post this now so the world can see you are…

    Joe knows says: “You could all walk tomorrow, and by next monday you would be forgotten about. And a hundted other equally ignorant hood rats would take your place.”

    LOLOL don’t look now Joe I think the Klan is calling you

  188. joe know Says:

    Justin,
    its obvious you cant argue with the substance of my posts, so you take the COWARDS route and try to play the “Youre in the Klan Kard”

    It only diminishes the basis of what should be a very improtant subject.

    Like I have said before, your cause is a just one, it is just YOU lack the credibility to lead that fight. Your constant KKK references only drive that point home every single time you resort to it.

    And since you want to make ugly discriminatory and racial remarks to me(AND REMEMBER YOU YOU YOU MADE THE FIRST RACIAL SLUR HERE), let me take a shot.
    You have made reference to my KKK hood,, well justin, when will we see you in your Louis Farakan bow tie, and your Jim Brown kufi hat?

    And what do you think of Pornlaws statement above…….or will you just ignore it and pretend you didnt see it. Youre a joke, get someone withsome real credibility to take up the fight.

  189. justinlong Says:

    you’re and idiot that can’t read… I absolutely adreesed Pornlaws arguement. I said it right their. I have never know a legal defense of the 1st admendment to be used in a racial discrimination employment law case….

  190. justinlong Says:

    yeah you should look back at the post joe. I always “compared” you to the KKK because you hide behind a screen name instead of showing people who is really spittin your ridiculous rants. I shut you down over 20 post ago, and lets not forget you even admitted their is discrimination and racism in porn JOE… LOL

    Joe you’re a racist my man because you post things like this

    “You could all walk tomorrow, and by next monday you would be forgotten about. And a hundted other equally ignorant hood rats would take your place.”

    I have never called you a derogatory term used for whites joe… don’t look now Joe you’re the only one using racially motiveated derogatory term bud…

    LOL you’re a racist and a joke.

  191. jeremiahsteele Says:

    NL-Comment Deleted This topic is too important to allow it to be derailed. Off topic comments on this thread will be deleted. Feel free to post them on other stories.

  192. justinlong Says:

    damn I don’t know that one jeremy so I will not be posting number 200 LOL

  193. matthewmilam.com: Podcast: Racism In Porn? Come On Now! Says:

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  194. jeremiahsteele Says:

    give me a break cindi, i have no interests, intentions nor supernatural powers to derail, even as subjects derail all the time anyway, your logic completely baffles and bewilders me this time, anyway a branch off a tree does not eliminate the tree…

  195. DFuller77 Says:

    FlyLovelace shut he fuck up you black bitch, I am black and I have dates a white girlfriend. So go eat some KFC and go on werfare bitch.

  196. MonicaFoster Says:

    I hate to say it, but some of what “Joe knows” has commented is valid, and bringing up PornLaw’s statement has brought me to some other conclusions in regards to this issue.

    OK, fine, if certain studios don’t want to hire, or only want to hire black men and/or women in limited quanities and only for specific type of scenes – it truly is their choice.

    Their choice has indeed pushed me to the point of which I’m over complaining about it and WILL do something about it by trying my best to launch my own label and studio of which I can create a “porn world” of my own that I’m happy and satisfied with.

    Yes, doing this forces me to work many times harder than my caucasion, latin and asian counterparts but hey, as I get older I realize that life isn’t meant to be fair and I actually enjoy and welcome the challenge of being given the “short end of the stick” in our society’s view due to being born a black woman.

    Though I can completely relate to Justin’s issue of how it’s not “fair” as to how he is treated as a “black” person in porn – I have to question being that he is bi-racial, if we lived in a society to where he wasn’t “labeled” as a “black man” and if “white” females in porn didn’t view him as a “black man” if he’d be as upset as he currently is.

    Maybe he would be, maybe he wouldn’t be – I don’t know him really so I can’t and won’t judge.

    I actually wonder how many white people in porn who think that this issue really “isn’t a big deal”, would feel the same if magically they woke up tomorrow and found themselves black and with substantially limited work.

    The real issue (in my opinion) in regards to “racism in porn”, has to do with the unequal pay scale that black performers generally receive in opposition of their counterparts of other ethnicities from certain studios.

    Now I know that when I manage to open my adult content studio, I may not cast “white” talents as often as I cast “black” talents, HOWEVER I would definitely offer equal pay (based on the type of scene) to whoever I do cast.

    Now true, a white talent such as Brianna Banks who has certain name recognition may be paid more than say Melody Nakai who’s been in the industry for a shorter time – however I wouldn’t pay a white talent such as the beautiful Ivy Winters more than Jazmine Ryder (2 women who have been in the porn industry for around equal lengths of time and who have limited name recognition).

    I also would pay a “black” women a high rate for her first scene with a “white man” just as a “white” woman gets a higher rate for her first scene with a “black” man – I and I think any other logically thinking American would see both pairings as an “IR” scene.

    In fact this is a topic that was touched on, on Wednesday’s broadcast of “Inside the Industry” on LaTalk Radio.

    PornLaw stated that yes, regulating what types themes are depicted when it comes to IR scenes DOES infringe of the concept of “freedom of speech” – HOWEVER the difference in payscale that black performers receive opposed to white performers CAN POSSIBLY be seen as discriminatory and COULD be grounds for a lawsuit.

    I think what Justin Long and others who would like to see the adult / porn world change for the better in regards to how black performers are treated, may want to focus on is the following:

    *what is currently (and what has been over the past few years) the average compensation for certain types of scenes.

    *what performers received that particular pay

    *what performers did not receive that particular pay

    *what companies/studios showed a marked difference in compensation to different performers

    *is there a pattern/track record as to the difference in pay / compensation these performers received and was it in fact due to the color of their skin?

    Justin, you don’t have to see “eye to eye” with pornlaw – you just may opt to look at this from a perspective of which he was trained to in order to take steps to achieve that adult industry future of which you would like to see develop.

    Just a thought from a little black porn talent who sometimes puts ads on CityVibe as “the mouth” stated and linked to, but doesn’t put ads on Eros under the “xxx stars” category like most of her porn talent caucasion counterparts do :)

  197. joe know Says:

    Monica,
    To you I offer my aplogies for the racially insensitve remarks I have posted.
    I have seen your blog, and video blogs, and I think YOU should be the one leading this “revolution”(for lack of a better word) Thank you for seeing the rhetoric. To get to the heart of this issue is an ugly journey, filled with alot of hate, and ignorance frome people on all sides of the argument. Calling it as you see it is not always popular…

    There is term..”argumentm ad hominen” What it basicaly means is …”attempting to bring people to your side of the argument by atacking the character of the people on the other side, not attacking the argument of the other side.” This is a classic example of what it called “logic fallacy”..Until Justin learns how to make his argument based on its merits(and it does have merits, as does the other side,Freedom of Speech) I beleive he will just drive more wedges between people and not bring them together. I dont think Justin realizes that he needs the help of the very people he is fighting against in order for their to be any change. The ‘white’ power structure in porn will not chane without the coopleration of that very structure.

    As a small jesture to you for my insensitivity I will make a donation to AIM.

  198. joe know Says:

    Monica,
    After rereading your post I have to say that YOU should be the one takingthe lead here.

    But I do disagree with one portion of your post. Just becuase a white performer gets paid more than an black performer does not automaticly make it racist. Women get paid more than men in porn, but htat doesnt justify a claim of gender bias. It is just a sipmple fact that ‘white’ porn sells more and is more profitable.

    Look at sports athletes. On the Lakers Gasol plays as many minutes as Kobe, but Kobe is better so he gets paid more, Kobe brings in more dollars, so he gets paid more. White performers bring in more dollars, so they get paid more.

    Monica, do you think male performers should get paid as much as females…..I think NOT, becuase it is the females who bring in the dollars.

    5,4,3,2,1,0000—-Justins fifteen minutes are up.

  199. jeremiahsteele Says:

    Males should generally be paid as much as females. Both performers are equally important in different ways. Both males and females risk their health or even lives and expose themselves in every way permanently. Both sexes have a daunting task of what to put on their job application if they ever have to get a real job once the fun is done. Porn has no union, nor will it ever have, so we guy are just n—–s, that’s all. I’m surpised male and females don’t drink out of different water fountains.

    If the guys don’t matter, than just hire a top female talent to fuck a bukkake dude and pay him 50 bucks. I’m sure he’ll be ecstatic about it.

    I’m going to pay my phone bill now, but I’m going to insist I should pay less because I’m only a male porn “star”. Then I’m gonna go buy a new flat screen t.v. and haggle em down on the price. Then I’m gonna ask my landlord to lower the rent because we niggas are discriminated against.

  200. joe know Says:

    Jerry,
    You crack me up. Male and feemale perfromers are NOT equally important. The male is a prop, nothing more. Very very very few people buy porn becuase of the male talent. I dont think anyone has ever said..”I cant wait for the next Jeremish Steele video.”

    AS FAR AS THE HEALTH RISKS….Yes both people are at risk, but the female are at FAR GREATER risk…AIMS own statistics point this out…Females are infected at a rate of 4 to 1 over males.(and thats just gonn/chlam, no comp-rehensive testing and stats are kept for anything else becuase the results would be too frightening, kind of like dont ask, dont educate and dont tell the female performers) And in straight porn males dont….Swallow infected cum, have things shoved up their asses, have to leave infected cum soaking into their eyes, mouth and everywhere else while the pictures get taken, males dont talke loads of infected cum up their asses, down their throats and intheir snatch. Males dont get pelvic im=nflamatory disease, or suffer the same consequences from MULTIPLE exposures to HPV. I could go on for about another two pages but you should get the point by now.

    THE RISK FACTOR ALONE JUSTIFIES A HIGHER PAY RATE FOR FEMALES.

    Yopu would think that someone in the biz as long as you would know this.

    Here’s a question for you Jerry….Do you think the industry would treat HPV infections differently if it caused testicular cancer in males, as aopposed to cervical cancer for women.

    HINT>>before you say anything about the HPV vaccine know that the vaccine is totally WORHTLESS to someone who has already had multiple sex partners….it is recommended for girls BEFORE they become sexually active. The fact that AIM touts the vaccine is just another example of their intentional misinformation given to female performers.

    aND hiv…Darren James, Tony Montana, Marc Wallice and John Holmes.(4) And how many females Jerry?

  201. joe know Says:

    Jerry says..
    “Both males and females risk their health or even lives and expose themselves in every way permanently.”

    Thank you very much…I just sent a link of this to the OSHA representative who is going to be the cchairperson of the uupcoming hearings..(I’ve also sent her many other links too, so dont feel to special Jerry. But the fact that you are a veteran performer will certainly add more weight to your testimony here. Thanks, without these types of truthfull statements from veteran performers like you the job of madating condoms would be much more difficult. Thanks for doing your part to help the Aids Healthcare Foundation and Shelley Lubben.

  202. jeremiahsteele Says:

    Go put a condom over your head Joe Know… and BLow!

    Inquiring minds want to know, Joe Know: Who are you with? The Society for the Ethical Treatment of Sexworkers? Is it the Justice League for The Complete Removal of Any Remnants of the Porn Industry from Capitalist Society? My point is regarding improvement in wages, not the subject of raincoats at work, etc. It’s not that I don’t care about what you’re saying, or whether or not I contest it, or part of it, etc, but I’m not interested in a debate about it, right now. Also, btw, I think we’ve already touched upon this subject and this redundancy is nothing I have an appetite for… not right now, at the very least…

    But to briefly touch upon the subject you rehash, you talk about safety in regards to ratios, just remember what goes around comes around. There’s still stuff out there regardless of whatever particular stats you are focused on… You’re also focusing on all these convoluted particulars which I don’t want to get into the process of separating, and responding to, blah blah..

    But seriously Joe, what do you need me for, saying “there’s shit out there, risk, blah, blah”? You want enlightenment? Don’t be selective in my pearls of wisdom. Take the whole necklace…. but anyways, the question is in regards to condoms, right? Anyway, like I said.. I’m not indulging in this again, right now, later…

    Also, Is “safer”, assuming it is true, safe enough for you?

  203. jeremiahsteele Says:

    Goddammitt, I’m back again for a moment. You know why John Holmes died? You told him he was gonna die, and then he went and took a bunch of drugs and killed himself, but it was supposedly the HIV. But I guess because he was a scumbag, anyway, he deserved it.

    Ok, please send my foundation more money so I can tell you more.

    Kiss My Ass Foundation
    P.O. Box 666
    Your Town, Nebraska 00130

  204. jeremiahsteele Says:

    Congrats, Joe on being the 200th comment on Justin’s N.W.A. (no whites allowed) blog… but how the fuck can you say females get g/c 4x more? It’s most likely the guys just treat themselves at Dr. Rigg or somewhere other than AIM (as if AIM is the only medical facility..some ever question how legit they are in that department), or they self-medicate (pop some docycycline pills, chill and go back to work several days later). How the fuck do you think that shit has a sexual orientation? Does HIV and G/C have a sexual orientation like Liberace or Ricky Martin?

    Again your Final Solution for the porn industry is mandetory condom use. HIV is microscopic and condom use is like a golf ball being stopped by a hoola hoop. Most of the world has or has had an STD, just like most kids have had chicken pox. Leave it to our own immune systems, and OUR freedom of choice. Why don’t you try to outlaw Coal Mining? Lots of people die and are buried alive, but guess what? I’m not going to tell those who choose to risk their lives because of the high pay rates and no alternatives to not do it because it’s their choice. Personally, I’d rather be homeless than do that, but you have no fucking right Joe to DICK-tate our lives.

    Also, what do you have to say Joe about AIDS Hysteria Fraternity’s Infanticide policies; forcing pregnant mothers to take AIDS “therapy” drugs when they inevitably cause stillbirths and severe birth defects??? On behalf of mothers who’s lives you’ve fucked with, FUCK YOU JOE!!!!! It’s a bonafide fucking fact that plenty of people who are HIV+ never get AIDS, and it has nothing to do with your “therapies”. Also plenty more have AIDS diseases in the absence of HIV. Further, the whole HIV/AIDS paradigm is a ludicrous SCAM because, just to mention one reason, the AIDS syndrome is not a new or specific disease but a collective of 29 OLD diseases. It used to be a specific virus would cause a specific disease until the AIDS Empire came along in 1984 (the year of Orwell’s book, appropriately) to fuck with our minds, emotions and pocket books, with their NEVER-ENDING quest for a solution. They’ve already said an end to AIDS is far away. How were they so prophetic? Beause they’re making way too much money scaring suckers into sending them money to ever find a cure and end their foundations!

    Just like the “War on Terrorism”, they’ve never gonna find Osama, either, because there’s also too much money in that, as well. AIDS and Osama will live forever!

    Robert Gallo, the “discoverer” of what would later be labeled “HIV”, who was convicted of “scientific misconduct” (fraud), has admitted that HIV can not, in and of itself, cause AIDS! WAKE THE FUCK UP!

  205. joe know Says:

    Jerry,
    Thank you again. I wil also forward this post to the chairperson of the OSHA committe. Again, having an established performer like you tell us that performers are just going to places like west coast urgent care and not to AIM willhelp tremendously to impeach the testimony of Sharon Mitchell and Ira levine…..IRa levine onece stated that the industry has a99% compliance rate with the testing program. Exactly whose ass he pulled this out of who knows, but thank you for you continued supportive statemstns for ths ASHF and Shelley Lubben. Youre helping more than you know Jerry,

    Jerry, are going to the hearin on i think july29. Its right here in downtown L.A., so that “too far away’ excuse wont work this time. Imagine, here is another oportunity for you to stand face toface with the head of the AIDS conspicracy people. Will you stand up and speak out in the forum that REALLY counts, or just be an intenet warrior without the guts to REALLY take a stand…..

  206. joe know Says:

    And Jerry,
    That 4 to 1 ratio comed directly from testimony given by sharon mitchell to a callifornia state assembly hearing after the 2004 outbreak….Those were her word exactly.

    Are you calling mitch a liar jerry. Its on youtube if you want to look it up. You seem to be able to find all your conspiracy evidence there, try doing a little research yourself for once.

    Dr. Aranow, also from AIM testifiesd that 5.6% of every 10000 tests AIM runs come up ositive.(of course those 10000 tests are done on about 1200 individuals so thats about half of all performer cathing stds(just gonn/chlam of course, nothing eles) in the course of about ten months. Wonder how many more that would be if they included everything else(heres,hpv,pid,throat infections and so on and so on and son etc.etc…..Do you get it yet Jerry?

    Now please make another statement that I can forward to OSHA.

  207. joe know Says:

    p.s.
    Jerry do you get tested for HIV before you do scenes? If so, why?

  208. jeremiahsteele Says:

    Hey Joe (I Don’t) Know,

    I’m not calling Mitch a liar. Do you have comprehension problems? All the stat says is that 4x as many female vs. male performers go to AIM to report they have g/c, or it’s that many more coming up on the collective monthly results. You may be positive after you test, then negative before you test again 30 days later. And, once again, assuming all those who catch the drip go to a doc, they might just go somewhere else besides AIM. Why must I repeat myself?

    Another brilliant question: Why do I get tested? Because, it’s mandatory and I play by the rules of the game.

    Would you like to ask me why I wipe my ass after sitting on the throne?

  209. jeremiahsteele Says:

    And if you think I’m so important Joe, have your foundation pay for a limo to pick me and feed me lunch and I’ll go, speak my piece, meet you and your friends and we can all have a blast. Make sure it’s a good, healthy and generous size meal because I’m sure I’ll be hungry!

  210. The President Says:

    —–Jerry, Thank you again. I wil also forward this post to the chairperson of the OSHA committe.

    Hilarious. joe know, you have no life at all, do you?

  211. jeremiahsteele Says:

    If you’re gonna forward OSHA my writings, Joe Dont Know, why don’t you also forward this:

    http://volokh.com/posts/1177528309.shtml

    Here are a couple of excerpts from this link:

    Osha has killed dozens of existing and proposed regulations and delayed adopting others.

    Since George W. Bush became president, OSHA has issued the fewest significant standards in its history, public health experts say. It has imposed only one major safety rule. The only significant health standard it issued was ordered by a federal court.

    The dirty little secret is that OSHA has long been regarded, both by Washington and by the OSHA employees themselves, as primarily a revenue agency. Actual improvments in safety are only incidental to how the agency views itself. Back in the day when I was doing that kind of labor (working in a print shop), the OSHA inspector fined us on every inspection because he didn’t like the way we stored the printing supplies. We used to rearrange them after every inspection, but the on the next one he’d nail us for doing what he wanted done on the last inspection. He was quite proud of his ability to read between the lines of regulations to come up with fineable offenses. He bragged that he had never in an over ten year’s career with the agency failed to fine every work site he had visited, and that the day he went to a work site and couldn’t find something wrong with it would be the day he retired. He used to bemoan the fact that our building was a one-story building, because he said he could fine every stairway and railing installation in existence — it was impossible for anyone to design a stair that met his interpretation of the standards and was stil usable. The fines were carefully calculated (a thousand here, a thousand there) to keep just under the amount where an employer might consider it worth their while to sue the agency or complain to a Congressman. Just pay the man to make him go away for a while. It was legalized piracy, a shell game, and everyone involved tacitly acknowledged it.

  212. jeremiahsteele Says:

    Also from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occupational_Safety_and_Health_Administration :

    During its more than 30 years of existence, OSHA has secured only 12 criminal convictions.

    OSHA has been accused of being more devoted to the numbers of inspections than to actual safety.

  213. joe know Says:

    “Why do you test?’

    Jerry says..”Becuase its mandatory”

    Actyually Jerry, as sharon mithcell has testifies before the california stae committte…”The testing program is completely voluntary.”””

    It is the fact that AIM and producers tell performers its mandatory that is alos a violation of state and federal law. It is illegal to require an HIV test as a condition of employment….So when AIM trell performers that they cant get work unless they sign the release, they are again breaking the law.

    And as you well know, AIM has been sued, and has lost regarding the validity of their waiver. Didint you wonder why AIM never printed a quarentine list when the last perfromer tested positive like they did in 2004? Actually they settled out of court for a “six figure sum”(Paid by money from perfromers who use AIM)

    ANd wasnt it nice of AIM to raise prices to perfromers in order to pay lawyers to protect the identity of PRODUCERS.

    Jerry, perhaps you can tell us why VIVID filed an application to get a ‘variance” to the 5193 OSHA statute?(its a matter of pulic record)(of course you dont have a clue as to why they would do this but I thought your guess might be good for a laugh)

  214. jeremiahsteele Says:

    What are you saying Joe, that it’s not required for me to take a DNA PCR HIV test every month? That might make it more difficult for me to get porn work.

    Why should I answer any of your questions when you don’t answer mine? Again, what do you think of AHF’s policy of HIV+ pregnant mothers non-right to choose regarding imbibing toxic drugs which cause stillbirths and severe birth defects?

    That’s what you guys are all about; taking away our right to choose. You guys are utterly corrupt, arrogant and ignorant of many facts and controversies. Condoms are no guarantee to protect from diseases, and diseases can spread outside the genital area. And most of the civilian population has caught something and you have no right to make them use rubbers, either.

    Your main advocate from the porn industry is Shelley Lubben, who said “I was a porn star living the glamorous life. Drug overdoses, herpes, suicide attempts and abuse at the hands of the porn industry,”. She scapegoats porn for her mistaken choices at doing drugs and other emotional problems.
    She fails, just as the AIDS foundations do, to see how excessive drug and alcohol use causes diseases and even suicidal tendancies. Instead she blames porn.

    Every human body has virus and bacteria. A famous retrovirologist has said that the virus is nothing and the host is everything. No seed can grow without the decadent soil which drug abuse provides. Is that porn’s fault? Shelley also believes that all you have to do is believe in Jesus Christ and all your problems disappear, which further exemplifies her simplisitic mentality.

    I appreciate Shelley’s emotional concern and caring for porn stars who leave the industry and her attempts to help them. If I were them I would certainly run to her first before Bill Margold. However, a person should not have to believe in any particular religious faith in order to get help.

    You enforce mandatory condom use, everyone will either work under the radar or take their industry elsewhere, and what’s left of the industry will crumble, but I know that’s Shelley’s agenda, as well.

  215. joe know Says:

    Jerry,
    This has NOTHING to do with what people do in their private lives. The “choice’ to use, or not to use condoms in the WORKPLACE is the issue. It has NOTHING to do wiht privacy, and choice. The law regarding workplace safety is very clear. The law does NOT allow preemployment sceening for HIV. What the law does require is POST exposure testing, paid for by the employer.

    The industry testing program is VOLUNTARY….it is when AIM tells people that they cant get work unless they sign the “waiver” that AIM crosses the line between medical facility, and becomes an agent of the porn industry. The law requires that any third party disclosure of HIV results be accompanied by an individual signed waiver WITH the specific m=name of the person to whom the results are being given. YOU know full well AIM does not do this.

    Regarding AHF’s [policy,,,,it is just that AHF policy, NOT the law….If an individual wighes to seek the asistance of AHF that is their cohoice, but they do not have the right to dictate to AHF what their policy c=should be.

    But the porn industry is a WORKPLACE issue, and their are specific laws that govern the workplace.

    ANd as far as Shelley goes, there is NO prerequisite of religious beleif to get help from her. That is the help that she offers, if you accept it fine.

    I like your final paragraph. It seems to me that youre trying to say,,,,”IF you make the industry follow the law it will destroy the industry.’

    Personallly, I dont think that OSHA wilol mandate condoms, but they will mandate employer compliance with post exposure testing and treatment. Of couse the porn industry also refects this solution also, based o0n nothing more than “it will cost them money”

    The porn industry cant fight for NO condoms, and then say we are also NOT responsible for any diseases that result from their product.

    If someone is harmed while working for you to porduce your product, that you intend to profit from, then you should be liable for that injury. This is a workplace, not a privacy issue between consenting adults. Its called the price of doing business. Every industry has inherent costs. Just becuase the industry has gotten away with ignoring the law for so long doesnt mean that it is right.

  216. jeremiahsteele Says:

    Thus, in summation let me conclude: Go put a condom on and fuck yourself!

    Thankyou.

  217. joe know Says:

    Jerry,
    Pleaswe allow me to make a final summation also.

    Youre a joke. You’ve spent how much of your adult life in this industry have have virtualy NOTHING to show for it. Your biggest claim to fame is a three year internet battle with an ex girlfireind. Your juvenile belief in all these conspiracies, and your ignorance of real medical issues that you face everyday(HIV) would truely be laughable if it wasnt so pathetic.

    Hey Jerry, you got another chane on June 29 to face off with those very people

  218. joe know Says:

    OOPs,
    Jerry, JUne 29, downtown Los Angeles. You get another chance to go face to face with the President of Aidh Healthcare Foundation. You have the chance to tell them, face to face, what you think. Again, if you want I can print the bus schedule so you doht have any excuse this time for not showing up like last time.

    Jerry, you were never and never will be more than a third rate performer in a industry full of scum. Now go start another Sophia thread you fucking loser.

  219. jeremiahsteele Says:

    Joe, You have resorted to 3rd grade level insults and name calling. You represent your clan, well.

    My “juvenile belief in all these conspiracy theories” is far less juvenile then your rhetoric.

    I’d be happy to back of any of my main theories with facts if you have any specific challenges.

    I may go to the meeting but don’t be too certain it will serve you.

  220. jeremiahsteele Says:

    So are you saying that if someone tests positive, then the companies, instead of the performers must pay for the subsequent tests? Most of us are independent contractors and have many different employers. What of each person that each person worked with, how many degrees of connection would be required to account for?

    “Safety in the workplace” is a matter of interpretation. Condom use does not necessarily make you safer from catching or spreading something. Safer does not equal safe. 46,000 + people die on the highways each year. It’s unsafe. Let’s outlaw freeways!

    “The porn industry cant fight for NO condoms, and then say we are also NOT responsible for any diseases that result from their product.”

    Don’t performers sign a waiver saying that, amongst other things, the performer does not hold the producer responsible for any STDs which may occur?

  221. joe know Says:

    Jerry,
    Yes, thousands die every year on the highways.
    But cars are required to have certain safety features. Seatbelts, bumpers, crumple zines, ect. And no one can argue that without those safety measures countless thousands more would die. Their are also traffic laws to follwo, speed limits for example.

    Those waivers you talk about, are ILLEGAL. There is no such thing as a legal waiver that allows one or more party to violate the law. Jerry, dont you get it? You have been getting duped by the industry for years now. THese complanies count on your ignorance of the law inoorder to operate. They got you believing youre an independant contracftor. They got you beleiving that the waivers you sign are leganl. And the perfromers are employess, this was settled by the Supreme Court of the State of California in the Brooke Ashley case. That debate is over. For puposes of renumeration(payment) they may be considered independant contractors, but on the set, for purposes of e=healht and safety, they are employees, the courts have already ruled on that. TTBOY was also declared the employer in 2004. That issue has been settled.

    As far as the meeting goes, if you say the exact same things you have said here, which you portray as the truth, it will help.

  222. joe know Says:

    Jerry,
    If you had been at the OSHA meeting several weeks ago you would have heard them discussing the illegality of those performer waivers that prodi=uction companies have the performers sign. YOU CANNOT agree to break the law. ANd the AIM waiver is illegal also. That s why Darren got over 100,000 dollare setllement, and that is why the AIM waiver now has a part that says you agree to binding arbitration instead of filing a lawsuit. Every sinhgle performer whose test results are on that AIM database that producers have passwords for can file an arbitration claim and win.

    Go the the next meeting Jerry, your testimony will probably not only be helpful, but it will probably also be quite amusing.

  223. joe know Says:

    And one more thing Jerry,
    At that last OSHA meeting, some of the industry representatives denied the existence of such waivers, or said “they had never seen them.”
    Thank you for confirming that they do indeed exist. And coming from a veteran performer like you , this will certainly help the cause. Thank you.

    Jerry, did you ever notice that the producers never give a copy of this waiver to the talent? NOW you know why.

    p.s. They tried to use this argument in the Brooke Ashley case….Of course it was thrown out of court.
    Shelly has a link to the B.Ashely case on her website….like they say Jerry, readi it and weep.http://www.dir.ca.gov/title8/5193.html

    Also note Jerry, NOTHING in this stature says the porn industry is not covered by this rule. It says “ALL WORKPLACES”

    Jerry, your ignorance of yourown rights is exactly what the porn industry wants. They cannot survivive in the manner that they do today without violating your rights. I would think that someone like you would see right through this conspiracy of porn producers to keep you perfromers(whores) ignorant of your rights.

  224. jeremiahsteele Says:

    Thanks Joe, but again I asked you, if A is positive and I worked with A around the time they were diagnosed positive, which company would pay for my tests? Would just one company or several contribute the costs of paying for my next test? How many performers would the company or companies be having to pay to have tested? Where would you draw the line?

    What do you propose will happen after this meeting and how do you think that will affect the industry?

  225. joe know Says:

    Jerry,
    Perfromer A and perfromer B work togwehter. On that day there is no disputing that infectious bodily fluids are exchanged between the two. After the scene both A and B are tested at the expense of the employer. The test result for A is positive. That means tha A exposed B in the workplace. The employer has to pay for B’s treatment of of the disease if subsepuent tests show he’es positive.

    Like I have said before, I think OSHA will grant the industry a “variance; to the condom section of 5193, and enforce the POST EXPOSURE testing, and treatment requirementof the same section(5193).

    The industry always says”’You cant prove it happened on my set..” That is becuase they break the law by not doing the testing AFTER people are exposed on their set. The affect will be a cleaner industry. Increased testing will cathc the diseases sooner than waiting 30 days to test. Performers will be healthier and the industry may even be able to recruit people to perfrom who might not be willing if not for the higher medical standards. Testing and treatment will add about 5 to 7 hundred dollars per production, depending on how many perfromers there are.

    Where to draw the line……Every perfromer who is exposed to potentialy infectious bodily fluids has to be tested as soon as possible after their exposure. IF someone was positive on that set , then they exposed others to their disease…in the workplace.

    I would aslo not be oposed to the use of rapid HIV home test kits on the set, but only in addition to the standsrd PCR testing program.

    Now a question for you……Is it true or false that diseases are being spread on the porn sets regularly? (gonnoreah, chlamydia, herpes,hpv,bacterial throat infections, torn rectums and vaginas) If yes, how bad do you think it is?

  226. joe know Says:

    Jerry,
    The companies whose test comes up positive for “A” is the one who pays for yur testing and treatment.

  227. jeremiahsteele Says:

    Joe, you said:

    “Every perfromer who is exposed to potentialy infectious bodily fluids has to be tested as soon as possible after their exposure”.

    What does that mean? Every performer who worked with Patient Zero within one day, three days? What about those who worked with those who worked with Patient Zero? Where do you draw the line?

    I went into Dr. Rigg’s today, to take advantage of the FREE g/c tests (throat swab and urine sample) and he brought up your upcoming meeting. I asked him his opinion about it and he thought this whole condom legislation matter was “stupid”, that Weinstein, himself, is “crazy”, that this is mainly being pushed by the gay community and that the only practical affect it is going to have is to cause the porn industry in California to collapse and then force it to move to Nevada. I asked him if I could quote him on what he said to me, but he said he’d prefer to not get politically involved. I was pleased to hear my opinions validated by a doctor that I, and much of the industry, respect and repeatedly visit.

  228. joe know Says:

    Jerry,
    Again thank you fror confiming that porn workers are visiting other docros instead of AIM. THiss too was discussed at the last OSHA meeting, and the statement rom Ira Levine”We have a 98% compliance rate in the industry..” has now been proven to be complete bullshit. As a veteran performer your admission that perfromers are seeking medical tests elswhere, while still using their 30 day old thest that says negative will help tremendously.

    And the industry is moving to NEVADA…..let your ignranceflag fly jerry. Whhile some rogue shooting does occur in nevada, you have to rememnber that the state of Nevada already has laws on the books regarding sex work, and those laws include MANDATORY condoms. There is no way in hell that the sate of Nevada is going to let the porn industry move inot their statre on a large scale. The very thought of this happening is beyond ridiculous.

    Yes, every perfromer that worked with patient zero should be tested. That is what AIM did.(if you beleive what sharon mithecll lsays)

    Jerry, why did you dodge my question above…..Are std’s being transmitted on the stet? Its a yes or no answer Jerry, why wont you anse=wer it.

    And a gain, thank

  229. joe know Says:

    Thaks for using Dr Riggs name here. I will forward this to Deborha Gold os OSHA with the suggestion to cross reference tha=e names of positive std reprots from Dr. Rigg with AIM Healthcare. Then they can see the same patients names with even MORE stds than AIM itself reprts.

    Jerry, I cant thank you enough. Youre the only performer who has been stupid enough to put in writing all of these tricks that the adult industry uses to make the std situaltion look not so bad.

    P.s. I will also forward this to Sharon Mitchell, just for the hellof it.

    Keep up the good work Jerry, your help is greatly aprreciated.(this is too easy)

  230. jeremiahsteele Says:

    Wow, Joe, you’re a bonafide stupid asshole. You call my honesty “stupid”? And you’re way more of a whore than any one who rents out their flesh. Renting your body is harmless compared to selling out your mind, emotions and soul. Politicians are the biggest whores of all and who are you ho’ing for? Freedom of choice in which doctor performers choose to go to for checkups and/or treatment is not a “trick”, nor is my honesty in sharing that “stupid”.

    There’s a lot you don’t know, Joe. You have a lot of contempt for those you pretend to care about. But that’s because you don’t care about us. This politics serves you, not us. You keep on proving, by your disrespect to us, what you think of us, hypocrite.

  231. jeremiahsteele Says:

    And I’m not dodging any questions, Joe. You’ve not answered all of mine. How could performers not be transmitting STDs on sets if civilians do so off sets? There are no guarantees, with or without condoms. But enforce condom legislation and you can be guaranteed the Industry will take a bigger shit in California than it already has, and then take it to whereever the hell else fascists like you who push infanticide on pregnant mothers don’t have meddling influence over our lives!

  232. joe know Says:

    Jerry,
    My contempt is for ignorance…..And Respect…I do not respect whores.

    And youre worn out line that we are all whores is the oldest line in the world used by whores to try to justify their own bad choices. I sell my time, knowledge and skills……whores sell their time and body,no skill and no knowledge. That is what makes you a whore…dont try to iflate yourself by accusing others of being whores like you.

  233. joe know Says:

    But your honesty is commendablwe….Something you dont find in most whores, I will give you that.

    The differnce between civilians and porn whores passing stds is the porn whores do it in a WORKPLACE, and civilians do it in private. DO anything you want in private, but if youre doing it fro profit you got to follow the rules.

  234. jeremiahsteele Says:

    Follow WHO’S rules, Joe? Are you Joe Almighty? Why don’t you come out of the closet, already and tell us who you’re whoring for?

    Like I said, everyone’s ho’ing for someone or something. If you don’t understand, perhaps you’re in denial.

    And since you don’t respect whores as you say (which is obvious), that means you don’t respect yourself, either. Some say marriage is legalized prostitution. The original meaning of whore was not negative, but it’s become an epithet for people like you. It’s all supply and demand, get it?

  235. joe know Says:

    Jerry,
    Whores sell their body and time……no skill, no knowledge.

    We in the regular workforce sell out time, knowledge and skills.

    It is the OLDEST line in the book for whores(like you ) to try to justify their choices by calling everyone else whores. It is the weakest and oldest arument in the world to justify the oldest profession in the world.

    ANd supply and demand, yes there wil always be a demand for whores, and ther will always be people like you to fill the demand.

    ANd for the record, I am NOT affiliated in any way with any organization even remotely related to the porn industry.

    And the original meaning of the word “pornography” is the photographing of prostitutes.

  236. jeremiahsteele Says:

    No Joe, you’re confused. It’s an old witticism that prostitution is the world’s oldest profession. The insights I provided are a little bit fresher and more profound than that.

    You ARE related to the porn industry. You’ve been regularly relating to us, spitting on us, in anonymity.

    Come out of the closet, Joe, and tell us what organization you’re whoring for.

    You are a whore, Joe. You are attempting to corrupt our minds and emotions with your hate. You are trying to debase us, tell us we are scum when we are not.

    You fail to take into account that whoredom is all around us. Anyone who fucks someone for some kind of material gain is a whore; wives, mistresses, employees,etc. Anyone who prostitutes their principles for personal gain is a whore; salesmen, actors, politicians, corporations (which, by legal definition, are persons, and thus sociopaths).

    Your continuous anti-human rants are a form of debauchery and sensual self-indulgence which contains an implicit loathing for the human sex drive
    and all it’s wayward and contractual meanderings, but it is lustful, just the same.

    The real reason you hate whores is because, by definition, a whore is someone who sleeps with everyone but you!

  237. joe know Says:

    Jerry says,
    The insights i provide are alittle bit fressher and (now get this) MORE PROFOUND THAN THAT.

    This is perhaps the funniest thing you have ever written. Yes Jerry, your profound intelect is one that oh so few can ever dream of even comprehending.

    And in your profound wisdom you also claim to know the REAL REASON why I hate whores(your words).

    Jerry, why have you wasted such intelect and talent on a worthless existence as a porn whore. Surely the world could benenfit from your profound intelect if you had only put your talents to more wotrthwhile endenvours.

    But you can put your self expressed profound intelect to some good use on July 29th at the OSHA hearing. You can go face to face with the president of the organization that you claim is part of the big AIDS conspiracy. Imagine, Jerry Steele, pontificating on the evils of the AHF, not in a porn industry chat board, but in REAL forum that can bring about REAL change.

    Put up or shut up about your PROFOUND INSIGHTS Jeryry.
    Lets ee if you got the balls…..

    I will make you a deal Jerry, If you got the balls to show up and speak, I will walk right uyp to you and introduce myself.(Does anyone really think that Jerry will show up,,,,of course he wont)

    Jerry, from anywhere along Ventura Bl. you can get to the meeting with only one bus transfer. Tell you what, I will even reimburse your bus fare.

    Profound insight, ni….please.

  238. jeremiahsteele Says:

    I don’t know, Joe, why you assume it takes balls to show up to an OSHA meeting, nor why you think I have no balls just because of our discussions on LIB about the important issue of mandetory condom legislation, etc.

    I would love to meet the obnoxious person you are who hates sex workers and I look forward to doing so.

    There’s a time for fun and a time for being serious, so good luck on trying to make me look like a fool. I was s speech communications/ public debate major in college and have spoken in front of crowds of 100s since age 15.

    Here’s another profound insight for you, Joe. I’m not the one hiding behind an anonymous identity on the internet. YOU are. But at least we’ll find out who are you and who you’re with.

    And enough of the bus fare insults. I do use subways and buses sometimes as it’s safe, relaxing and I also like to read, but I do also drive. The same goes for my gf, as it’s easy, saves money and hassle and serves the overcrowded cities when there’s one less vehicle on the road and less carbon emissions. Aren’t you all about improving the world, hypocrite? Don’t you see the ads promoting the benefits of mass transit? It’s something the city needs more. LA needs to get more like NYC.

  239. joe know Says:

    Jerry,
    Tha tax payer subsidies to the pathetic public transportaion in Los ANgeles just means that you are taking a ride that other taxpayers are helping you pay for. If we were in New York Or D.C. it would be a sightly different story.

    And the balls comment was meant to see if you had the balls to face the VERY people that you accuse of committing henious acts. Are you just an internet conspiracy warrior, or will you do it in the REAL world? only time will tell.

  240. jeremiahsteele Says:

    Conspiracy is mostly participated in by people who are not aware of what they are a part of, who believe whole-heartedly in what they do, but are misguided by limited scope, limited information and controlled propaganda. It’s like when army recruiters show up at high schools and recruit gullible young kids who have not yet experienced what they are getting into, who believe in everything they’re telling them: serve the country, be a hero, learn discipline, get money for college, etc. They never hear from an alternative side or experience which doesn’t support the agenda. There’s a bigger picture they are missing and the reasons we may be bombing countries and usurping their resources might not be based on the ideals we are sold.

    If you knew the things I know, Joe Know, you would not be so hostile. You’d understand where I’m coming from, even if you didn’t agree.

    OSHA is a bureaucracy “filled with political hires more interested in serving an agenda than in serving the people”
    http://www.alternet.org/blogs/peek/135534/osha:_it's_still_bush's_bureaucracy/

    Be sure to let us all know the details of the OSHA gathering, so as many adult industry people will be there, in addition to myself.

    Don’t be pissed off at my honesty. It’s better than being P.C. Call me a willing scapegoat if you like. I’m used to it.

  241. jeremiahsteele Says:

    Also I know, Joe, an author named Barrie Zwicker, who has not driven a car since the 60s, not because he can’t afford to but for environmental reasons. Of course shallow LA people like you who ask “What kind of car do you drive?” are not going to think highly of someone like that, but I’m sure the feeling is mutual.

  242. joe know Says:

    “IF you knew the things I know”

    I find it so fascinating that a person who has spent theri adutl life in the porn industry could know all of these worldwide secrets, and still be nothing but a porn perfromer.

    What a burden yuo must carry, nknowing all these secrets that affect our lives so draticaly, and your only outlet is porn chatboards to spread your message

    Reminds me af a joke line on a television show…”I know its true cause I read it on the internet.”

  243. jeremiahsteele Says:

    Hey moron, I got in the biz at age 27. That’s hardly my whole life. I’ve also already explained but perhaps you don’t understand or have forgotten, being a whore gives you more free time than the average to investigate things.

    You’re quite the bigot (–noun:
    a person who is utterly intolerant of any differing creed, belief, or opinion).

    Go fuck yourself, Joe. I look forward to meeting you, that is, if you have the balls to come up to me. You must make the organization you represent proud!

  244. jeremiahsteele Says:

    Also, your “Reminds me af a joke line on a television show…”I know its true cause I read it on the internet.”” comment is ironic. Most people believe the mainstream television or internet news report soundbites because that’s what they’ve read or heard. (“Official sources say…”, and that’s all there is to it, right?) Yet you attempt to mock those who actively seek independent and alternative sources as the ones are more likely to believe anything they read? Actually, you got that shit backwards. Most people are brainwashed in Orwellian fashion via our all pervasive, politically controlled corporate media, believing things that make no sense, are physically impossible and/or which are inherently contradictory. That’s exactly why you believe HIV=AIDS, when it clearly doesn’t, otherwise everyone with HIV would have AIDS, and there would be no AIDS linked diseases (pneumonia, wasting syndrome, kaposi sarcoma, cervical cancer, etc, etc) without the presence of HIV.

    Like Hitler once said, it is very fortunate for governments that people do not think. Whatever that show is that you worship is an attempt to keep simpletons from not thinking; just keeping watching their all knowing television to tell ‘em what’s what.

  245. jeremiahsteele Says:

    whoops, that should’ve read “attempt to keep simpletons from thinking”. not from not thinking.

  246. joe know Says:

    Jerry,
    I’m beginning to think that you just might show up at that hearing…

    But will you stand up and ‘inform’ everyone there exactly what you think about HIV, and say the things that you say here…But dont worry, if you dont stick to your usuall HIV CONSPIRACY shctick, I will be glad to read to the board several of yourposts from here and elswhere.

    Looking forward to it Jerry.

    Jerry,”If you only knew what I know” Steele. Thanks, in advance, for your help.

    ANd your attempt to belittle anyone who doesnt,Know what you know” by saying they are ‘brainwashed’ by television and the media is hilarious. You seem to forget that ALL of your theories also come from the same place. NOthing you have said about any conspiracy theory has been an original thought. While you assail others for parroting what the mainstream media says, you yourself are just a parrot of the lunatic conspiracy theorists.

    Please give us ONE example of any one of your ‘theories’ that DOESNT come from the internet or tv.

  247. jeremiahsteele Says:

    If you claim that I’m parroting lunatic conspiracy theorists, then name one. Based on what are you making such a claim?

    What makes you believe I have not an original thought? Are you well versed in alternative theories and science which backs it up?

    My thoughts, whether or not they be original, are not the issue. Knowledge and exposure to alternative views is what he NEED FIRST in order to have an opinion worth having. If we have not examined different points of view than the prevailing point of view we have is worthless. In complete ignorance you say “lunatic conspiracy ?theorists”, yet can you name who and what you’re talking about?

    I can give you several examples of theories that I’ve read and agree with, partially, or in totality, which don’t come from the computer or t.v. screens. But who cares about where I’ve gained my info from?

    Books: Inventing the AIDS Virus by Peter Duesberg
    The Great Aids Hoax by T.C. Fry
    Poison by Perscription: The Azt story by John Lauritsen
    and several others.
    Here’s something from off the net worth watching, although I originally saw it in 1996 at an art house theater.

    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8142733917997460212#

  248. joe know Says:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Duesberg

    Here is Jerry,s referenced authority.
    Read it all the way to the bottom. Completely discredited by the scientific communtity, based of SCIENTIFIC evidence. You have now officiall ‘jumped the shark” Jerry.

  249. joe know Says:

    http://www.reviewingaids.com/awiki/index.php/John_Lauritsen

    And here is his other reference…..A market resach analyst, and gay activist.

    Anohter completely discredited source….NEXT

  250. jeremiahsteele Says:

    Because a 14 year NIH grant reciprient disagrees with the current orthodoxy you claim he’s been “completely discredited”. Wrong!

    virusmyth.com is a site from a large collection of scientists with advanced degrees, including nobel prize winners who dispute the whole HIV/AIDS dogma which has been for years pushed by the powerful money making and mind melding lobbyists.

    Are you aware of the history of AZT, with it’s literal skull and cross bones on the label and original label of “too toxic for human consumption”?

    Completely dismissed does not mean “completely discredited”. If anyone should be discredited it is Robert Gallo, the original “discoverer” of HIV, who was convicted of scientific misconduct (fraud), and who later admitted that HIV can not cause AIDS without yet to be deterimed co-factors (which is an indirect way of admitting that HIV dos not cause AIDS!). Also, the government which heralded his announcement in 1984 regarding finding “the likely cause of AIDS” has been completely discredited, as Gallo’s claims were never subject to peer review before being adopted by the HHS under the Reagoon Administration. WATCH THAT VIDEO LINK I GAVE YOU!

  251. justinlong Says:

    Sorry folks this thread is about racial discrimination NOT industry testing…

    I still see that ryan razor is still an idiot though… “he doesn’t respect whores” but lvishes over stories of him being engaged in a kiss with a porn star.. LOLOL.. what a fuck

  252. justinlong Says:

    Hmmmmm this article has gotten more attention then any news in the industry as of late but still no AVN article… hmmm wonder why that is.. oh yeah thats right… it’s got to be a special edition in order to put a story about blacks in it.. damn I almost forgot.. LOL

  253. justinlong Says:

    LOLOL watch out 2 whole awards at the XRCO for blacks …. any guess’s of how many awards were given out in total?????? LOLOL

  254. justinlong Says:

    Oh and just FYI I have been yelling for full panel testing for the last five years LOL.. and contrary to popuklar opinion testing is FAR FROM VOULANTARY… DONT TEST DONT WORK.. just like if negros speak up they dont work.. welcome to porn Joe Knows… LOLOL fuckin idiot.. like you would know… I know who you are now and am also very aware you know exactly dick.. you know what you read… what a fuckin joke.. LOL Ryan Razor.. did you think that up all yourself

  255. jeremiahsteele Says:

    i think going off topic is always a good idea justin because it still keeps your old headline at the top of the latest comments file, which would otherwise disappear and for some or most be forgotten, and there’s always the opportunity for you or anyone else to go back to the original subject, so it’s all good is it not?

  256. justinlong Says:

    you know I think Mr. Razor tried to be in porn and had wood issues or maybe had a porn g/f who amussed him by saying he should get in the industry but did that just to get him off her back.. LOLOL.. Iether way for someone who has no respect for and hates “whores and prostitutes” LOL you sure do spend alot of time talking and going to see em at conventions and all… and how two faced is that .. tell me did you call the girls you kissed and got pics with whores and tell them your deepest views of what they really are before you kissed em and gotr little fan pics with them and then bought thier movies????? LOLOL “speaking of a whore” you know Joe.. i think your moral compass is so fucked up I’ll be suprised if you make it to your bed tonight and your blow up doll…

  257. justinlong Says:

    Jeremy,

    Got ta love ya bro

  258. Justin Long takes a stand against racism in porn. « Monica at Home Says:

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  259. More opinions on Justin Long’s “racism in porn” stance. « Monica at Home Says:

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  260. jeremiahsteele Says:

    Thx JL.

  261. justinlong Says:

    you know it J.. much love to you bruh

  262. joe know Says:

    Justin,
    Aside from yelling for full panel testing, have you actually been doing it yourself. NOTHING is stopping you from doing it yourself. And what test do you consider a FULL panel
    HIV
    GONN/CHLAM urine, and throat and anal swabs
    HEPATITIS A,B,andC
    TRICHOMONIS
    HERPES 1&2
    SYPHILLIS
    HPV(WARTS)

    Any more you want to ad Justin?
    ANd keep making up those culte little stories about who you think I am. Do you actually believe this stuff that you dream up? If you think you know who I am why dont you have the balls to see me g=face toface. JUSTIN,,just antoher internet warrior.

    Justin, sorry to inform you, but your fifteen minutes was over two weeks ago. I find it hilarious that this is the only place where the issue is still being talked about……OH WAIT, Jerry and I havent mentioned you in weeks here. LO effing L

    Perhaps the most epic fail in porn history. Better luck next time Justin.

  263. justinlong Says:

    LOL.. like how you skipped the entire part about you yelling you hate whores and prostitutes and to YOU all porn stars are whores and prostitutes but you dont talk that shit face to face with porn stars before you ask for an autograph or get a photo op with a chick at a convention..

    you’re a joke a fake and a piece of shit.. LOL live with that Joe blows (himself)

  264. justinlong Says:

    Beside Joe whos the real internet warrior.. this story got picked up everywhere and when I heard about them I would go read them and guess who was logged in and commenting???? YOU LOL.. so i guess you are the true internet warrior.. a fan who thinks he knows because he jerks off to porn, cant get a real girl and is infactuated with dudes like me who actually fuck the girls you jerk off too.. LOL..

    Just shut up and say thanks for the beat material we (porn stars) put ourselves at risk to make for “you” the fan.. LOL.. you’re a joke. So, tell me also Joe what testing do I do? As i figured you have NO clue… suprise suprise Joe Blow Knows talking out his ass about shit he don’t have any knowledge about.. LOL.. thats nothing new

  265. joe know Says:

    Justin,

    Enough already with your little made up fantasies about who I am and what my motivations are. I have NEVER in my life spent one single penny purchasing porn.

    And yes, I am infatuated with someone who will stick his dick into any infected greasy hole to earn a few bucks.

    Your inflated opinion of yourself is pathetic.

    I dont really hate whores,,,I hate ignorance, its just that the two go hand in hand so often, as is the case with you and Jerry.

    Now lets see you come up with another little imaginary story about who I am and why I do what I do. They are really quite amusing.

    Of course when you cant attack the message you go after the messenger….dont hate the playa, hate the game. This is the same tired ass, oldest internet trick in the book, and youre not even very good at it. If i wanted to play this game I would say something like..go find your daddy…but I wont go there.(see, thats how its done)

    Never been to a convention either,,but I have seen the pictures of these low budget freak shows, and I did stay at a Holiday Inn last night.

  266. justinlong Says:

    really should I go back and really find the post you wrote about being at a convention and getting a kiss from a porn chick?

  267. joe know Says:

    Yes Justin, go and look all you want,,,you wont find anything. Nice try Justin,,,but htis one requires you to put up or shut up.

    This alleged post does NOT exist….Another lame attempt at attacking the messanger instead of the message.

    But dont worry Justin, I will play along and keep tis thread alive for you,,,after all, without my participation here this thread would have died weeks ago, so in a way, Youre welcome.

    You get an extra five minutes.

  268. marclewal Says:

    Joe,

    There is no male test for HPV that I know of, I could be wrong, however. On top of that, the majority of sexually active adults have some form of HPV, as well as HSV-1. It’s almost pointless to test for them.

    What is known it’s obviously you’re just a troll. The irony is that you are claiming to give Justin an extra five minutes, when in reality you are using his status to give yourself an extra five minutes. Trolls like you are obvious.

    I’m not a pornographer, I have shot amateur scenes with some friends in an attempt to get into the industry, so naturally this conversation is interesting to me.

    I do work in an industry where blacks aren’t exactly everywhere (I am black myself) I have been turned down for a job because of my race, because the owner of a business was afraid I wouldn’t be well received by clients, despite the fact I excel in my field.

    Justin, as someone who appreciates good porn, I see what you mean. I am a black man, and I do not enjoy the porn that is just a field day of stereotypes. hopefully this will change in the future.

  269. jeremiahsteele Says:

    Hey Justin,

    There’s obviously something seriously wrong with this Joe individual. He says he’s never purchased any porn in his life. That means he’s lying and/or more disturbed than I thought, or he just gets it free like most people at this point.

    No wonder he’s been so obnoxious. I see where his frustration lies. Maybe he needs and go jerk off. And tell him, “Don’t worry, it’s safe”.

  270. evagreen Says:

    Justin,

    Since you are exactly 50% black and 50% white does this mean you won’t be having sex with anymore white women or black women? Or are you vowing to do only solo work? Help me understand please.

    It’s all pink to me.

  271. joe know Says:

    Marc,
    Yes, you are correct that most people have some sort of HPV, and herpes.

    But what sets this apart in the porn industry, as oppsed to the general public, is the health issue of MUTLIPLE exposures with HPV. Females in the porn industry are exposed at a rate that FAR exceeds the general public, and that is what makes this a far more serious issue in porn.

    And there goes Jerry agina, making up ANOTHER fantasy little story about my motivations, and then says there is something seriously wrong with someon who doesnt watch porn. Yesterday I saw an ad for a reality show on MTV called “Tool Academy”. Jerry you should look into it. It looks right up your alley.

    Again, normally I waould tell you to “kiss my ass” but Jerry would prabably think I was offering him a job.

  272. justinlong Says:

    LOL.. i did address you fruit… @ joe knows dick … i was reading darrah last night where you were crying about getting outted ryan Rayzer LOL.. Liked the comment you left about not knowing my dad.. LOL.. it’s not true though.. I have seen him four times, so that would imply i know him.. LOL.. but that seems to be in contrast of hw you bend things to fit your argument.. LOL.. i know he is a piece of shit sorta like you..

    Who knows maybe you are him???? are you my dad Joe Knows???? LOLOL.. you can’t hurt me homie.. LOLOL

    As for fame and 15, 20, 5, minutes of it.. this aint fame moron.. I have no need for fame.. LOL.. I could careless about fame.. LOL.. you are follpwing me now on twitter along with dumb ass dfuller… do you not see my tweets promoting the urbanxawards and see me telling people to not vote for me as I want the younger peeps in the industry to win?????

    LOL .. bruh if i wanted to tsay in the news I could.. make no mistake… and if I wanted to stay in ponr and keep making movies … make no mistake I can.. The only people upset about this shit.. are fucked companies and agents and bitches I have called out by name..

    My fans have rallied behind me over whelmingly.. This has done nothing but solidified the fact that I am a real person that calls black black and white white even if it hurts me and my pocket book.. You my friend are words and wrods only.. and you hide behind screen names.. which makes you even more of a troll and internet warrior.. you my friend are a joke..

    Use your real name if you feel so passionate.. I bet you wont and never will though, because you are a pussy and know your views are jacked and very unpopular with the masses..

    It’s hard to take someone serious that wont even put thier name to there rants..

    Me i am a person of action. I dont care what it cost me.. Shooting porn is playing russian roulette.. and with the economy as it is and girls tricking as they are because of it, it’s even that much more dangerous.. Oh no if I never shoot another scene.. Do you see me crying?????? Didn’t think so…

  273. joe know Says:

    Speaking of REAL names, WHat is yours, it certainly isnt Justin Long…..

    And for the record,,,,,I DID PRINT my real name on this site months ago, and i believe it was deleted by the site owner and I was admonished for doing so.

    And I do NOT foloow you on twitter. I do not fo9llow anything on twiltter….But I guess living in your little fnatasy word of mkiong up stories about anonymous internet posters, I can see how you beleive that the world revolves around your facebook and twitter postings.

    Justin, use your real name if you feel so passionate.

    And as far as who your daddy is, Maybe you can go on Maurry Povich and let him figure it out. THere must be at least a few dozen candidates.

  274. joe know Says:

    And since you say in the above post that I was outed on darrah site and you printed the name, then why dont you do something about it? Maybe you could put it on your twitter page, that will REALLY teach me alesson.(LOL)

  275. justinlong Says:

    LOLOL low blow to call my moms a whore.. but hay look who the low blow is comming from.. personally I think you think all girls are whores because you obviously get NO pussy unless you lick yourself..

    Yeah I’m sure you printed your real name.. yeahh uhh huuhhh.. thats why you were whining about it on darahh’s site.. LOL..

    As far as real names Justin Long is a very real name.. if your brother owns a company and your sister is the biggest star in the world then you would have access to 2257 docs of me.. so are we to think you cant find out or is the above your made up fanatsy and you’re actually some sad fuck sitting at home that just access’s free porn that actually stolen and read sites on the net and now pretend to be some expert in the matter?

    You tell us Joe knows… people have to guess becuase you bullshit to much and fail to ever say.. what is it joe? are you in the industry? are you just a fan? does your brother own a company as you have led people to possibly believe like in earlier post? is your sister a star like you have posed as question in earlier post? if she is, do you call her a whore and a prositute?

    How about your mom joe? had she only ever sucked your pops cock? maybe she is a whore too? Let us inside Joe knows dick world…. LOL.. bet you and it aint as perfect as you try to make it out to be on a computer screen..

    LOL the facts are.. thier is racism in Porn “you” agree and yet “you support it.. LOL… guess that makes you a ssupporter of racism joe.. “that” my friend is fact and beyond reproach and very much NOT my imagination

  276. justinlong Says:

    I’ll save you the trouble of writing it.. you’re gonna come back and say.. I shot movies that were racially titled.. yes I did, and all black people do.. it’s the work that is provided for us and if we wanted to work then thats the work we had..

    So that dont fly.. Myself and other blacks would just as soon that those names and titles didn’t exist either.. Nor do any black people support or willfully allow girls to say they want more for thier first IR scene or more to shoot IR or believe that saying NO ir is ok

  277. joe know Says:

    Justin,
    If you recall it was YOU who fist took a shot at my parents. Seem like you have conviniently forgotten about that. If you cant stand the heat stay out of the kitchen…….

    And now lets get ready for your nexst little made up story about who I am. Since you have failed a porn actor, maybe you could become a fiction writer.

    Justin, YOU are the one who has been working in the industry and supporting the socalled racists who pay you to degrade your own poeople.

    And Justin, beleive it or not, there is alot of other work available than just porn. Are you trying to tell us that you had no choice but to do porn? What about that college education you told us about. YOU ARE THE ONE WHO MADE THE COICE TO DO RACIST PORN. NOBODY FORCED YOU.

    Funny how you want to assert your rights to make your own choices, but you seem to indicatte that females in the same industry should not have those same rights.

    And Yes, Justin, I do have access to all those records you soke of. Just give me written permission here and I WILL print your legal name. Cindi has warned me about doing this before, so I need your written permission here. Put up or shut up.

  278. joe know Says:

    And jsut to be fair, I give you permission to write my name here….I could use the publicity. Thanks

  279. justinlong Says:

    LOL Joe knows dick.. LOLOL see i even called it that you would come back with that weak ass argument..

    OLOLOL.. Oh you acted like a ganster in a negro fucked my daughter so now you have no rights to yell when people wont work with you cause your black.. LOL is that really the shit your tryin to shovel here?????

    Thats black and white buddy… you have access to dick…

    I would beg to differ that I failed at porn there smart guy. I was the fastest growing male star EVER as of 98′ per jim south (who was the ONLY agent at the time) shooting 13 VHS movies my first month. I have shot well over 700 scenes and am almost a bigger star in germany and japan then I am here in the US.

    I am one of the top 10 black male performers in the world and have one of the top 10-15 biggest dicks in the industry with a fail rate of less then 2% LOLOL

    Who are you? Speaking of failures… LOL..

    And lets get something straight… because a title is racially named does not make it a racist movie.. unless of course you consider mainstream film like “white men cant jump” and other movies like that racist as well.. it’s a name… Please find one movie where I called any girl by a racially derogatory name.. let me help.. you wont.. so quit trying to steer people into your bullshit falsehoods..

    Besdies, you dont buy porn per you.. so how the fuck would you know whats in em.. You admittedly view stolen porn off of tube sites and then act like you are anyones friend in porn.. your the piece of shit along with everyone else that watches free porn instead of paying for it that cost “US” all money you fuck..

    as far as I am concerned and many other I would bet… you are the problem, and then you think you have some right to chime in about what happens in our industry. You’re a fucking joke homie… you talk mad shit and then hide your identity and then admit watching stolen copyrighted material..

    Fuck you Joe Knows Dick…

    I dare you to go to urbanxawards and yell the fuckin BS rant you yell here… I dare you to go thier and tell the black people of this industry that they are ignorant hood rats like you have here… Shit if you have access to my 2257 then i dare you to even come to my house and talk that shit… Fuckin idiot.. thier are real thugs and gangstas in this bitch and you better figure that the fuck out…

    This aint no fuckin internet game bitch..

  280. justinlong Says:

    Meet me for lunch Joe Knows Dick I’ll give you written permission No Problem

  281. jeremiahsteele Says:

    joe know Says:

    “And jsut to be fair, I give you permission to write my name here….I could use the publicity. Thanks”

    Why don’t you just tell us who you are now, joe and who you represent, since you want the publicity? Why wait for the OSHA meeting?

    You should come down as well, Justin. Joe promises to introduce himself to me, so you’ll get a chance to meet this wonderful person, too.

  282. justinlong Says:

    jeremy He is Ryan rayzer and works ofr lukeford i guess is the deal.. trust me after all the shit this dude talked.. he would run if he saw me within a hundered yards of him.. that is what racist cowards do…. thats why they wear hoods

  283. jeremiahsteele Says:

    Who’s Ryan Rayzer? Joe said he’s not related to porn at all, but then again I guess Darrah and Al aren’t either. Where did you get this info from? Joe really wants me at the OSHA meeting, so of course I’ll go. Try to come by, if you can, JL. He says he cares about us porn stars, that’s why he keeps calling us “whores” and viciously and personally insulting us. He can’t type because he’s nervous and mentally unstable. He should watch a porno. Maybe he wouldn’t be so fuckin’ uptight. What do you think, Jus?

  284. jeremiahsteele Says:

    Who’s Ryan Rayzer? Joe said he’s not related to porn at all, but then again I guess Darrah and Al aren’t either. Where did you get this info from? Joe really wants me at the OSHA meeting, so of course I’ll go. Try to come by, if you can, JL. He says he cares about us porn stars, that’s why he keeps calling us “whores” and viciously and personally insulting us. He can’t type because he’s nervous and mentally unstable. He should watch a porno. Maybe he wouldn’t be so fuckin’ uptight. What do you think, Jus?

  285. jeremiahsteele Says:

    sorry i repeated myself

    sorry i repeated myself

  286. justinlong Says:

    I dont live in LA anymore so I aint makin no trip just to meet that fuck.. He watchess porn.. he said just the other night he has never bought it he watches free stolen porn off tube sites

  287. jeremiahsteele Says:

    Well Justin, Joe claims he’s never watched porn. Maybe he’s being honest. As Sinnamon has pointed out, he seems very angry. I think he should start watching some porn, maybe he won’t be so angry at the world. Maybe his dyslexia while on the keyboard would improve.

  288. justinlong Says:

    Jeremy,

    This guy has been bashing on all the post ADT, Darahh, ect.. then he comes here and tries to say he didn’t say the shit I say he has said.. it’s funny.. he’s a little bitch… he probably is a director because he has about as much spine as alot of directors in the biz.

    I would love to see him show up at urbanx and talk this shit though.. damn I’ll even talk sharee into lettin him have the fuckin mic to do it.. let him stand their and call all the blacks in the industry ignoorant hood rats as he has here, and call everyone a whore/prostitute as he and the colonel have been doing.. LOL and the colonel is a fuckin camera guy for porno dan supposedly.. LOL

    Sure talent would love to know that… This is exactly the shot I was talking about when i was active in the industry and said “man MF’s talk all this shit like thier aint no consquences. This is LA people die here” It’s amazing with all the shit going on in the world that people would be so calous as to talk all this shit and think that they are immune to the repercussions of thier rants…

    Fuckin mind boggeling to me.. this is the diffence between growing up in the burbs and growing up in the hood. Growing up in the hood you learn, this type of shit dont fly..

  289. jeremiahsteele Says:

    ‘Tis true. Someone might pull a Steve Driver move on him, and I’m sure they’ll say they did it because they care, just like Joe supposedly does. That’s why he fuckin’ attacks and insults us whores while claiming he’s fighting for us. If he was really trying to help he would be a little more respectful, even if hypothetically one of us was off the mark, at times.

  290. justinlong Says:

    Jeremy

    he dont care… he’s a fake all the way around.. that guy is a waist of skin.. doesn’t watch porn but trolls all the porn blog sites???? come on.. he aint special just because he belongs in the special olympics.. nothin against mentally handicapped folks.. dude reminds me of the south park episode where cartman pretends to be retarded to win the special olympics because he could’nt win anything else..

    Dudes all talk.. he’s like most peta members .. they talk al this shit and at the end of the day.. they still use and eat many things they preach not to to everyone else.. he said to me once “let the one without sin cast the first stone” I know the verse having gone to private church school for two years and growing up in the church..

    I would reply “pull the log out of your eye, before you try to pull the splinter out of your brothers” but see both of those splice both ways.. he as agreed with all i have said and he has said it multiple times straight up. but the argument that because black act in movies such as “a negro is fucking my daughter” all of a sudden we have given up some right to complain and call bullshit when 60% of girls say no IR..

    Most girls and I mean most are’nt even saying no IR because of the movie titles.. they are sayiong no IR and waiting tell they get a name and then want some huge fuckin payday when she’ll finally let a black cock go in her and in a movie callecd “a negro is fucking my daughter” LOL… his argument is weak.. just FYI exploited is defined as an indivdual being promoted… the fucking president of the united states is exploited by definition, tiger woods, all bands, artist, race car drivers, ect…

    So the argument just merley doesn’t hold wieght… degradation is all in ones perspective.. we could say being a janitor or trash man is degrading or working at a fast food place is degrading work.. but to most it’s not it’s a job and they go to work with fuckin pride.. but to rich people if they had to clean toilets it would be dergrading to them.. so degradation is all in the eye of the beholder.

    Joe wont tell what he does or who he is, so wwho knows.. maybe he’s a sex shop worker. maybe he’s an attorney.. I dont care but in regards to bashing our profession but failing to enlighten as to his and trying to elude that he is oh so perfect, to me is what trully makes him a joke

  291. jeremiahsteele Says:

    I wonder how many PETA members have eaten hamburgers.
    I wonder what Joe Know jerks off to if it’s not porn. If he never jerks off, that would explain his disturbed personality. I wonder if Joe Know will come out of the closet, but I doubt it. He says he’s going to come up to me if I “dare” go to the OSHA meeting, as if that’s so daunting a task to show up.

  292. justinlong Says:

    Jeremy,

    Why are or would you be sacred to… OSHA are a bunch of fucks.. LOL.. i’ve seen those idiots on sets.. checkin for UL ratings on lights andd making sure sand bags are on stands and mean while they leave people to the wolves and let people work that shouldn’t be working..

    Speaking of a waist.. and tax dollars pay for thier incompetant ass’s LOL what a joke ahy…

  293. jeremiahsteele Says:

    Good quesion, I still can’t answer, bro. A question I have is who pushed to get this current OSHA thing started, Shelley Lubben? Joe’s a P-COCK trying to show how important and ominous he and OSHA are. Your point completely supports articles I’ve read on the net and posted here on LIB about how OSHA is notoriously corrupt, bureaucratic, inept and ineffectual, and to compensate, goes about making occasional, annoying and idiotic fusses just to act important and justify it’s existence. When they feel the need to look busy they’ll write-up every little, ridiculous code violation which defies common sense and feasibility. As Mother Jones has mentioned in it’s article, “OSHA: Where Good Laws Go To Die”, they are “a notoriously toothless agency in the Labor Department”.

    A 2009 audit by the DOL Inspector General (IG) that identifies serious deficiencies in the implementation of OSHA’s Enhanced Enforcement Program (EEP) from 2003 through 2008 states that OSHA did not comply with its own program requirements in 97 percent of cases sampled by the IG. The worst failures included a lack of follow-up inspections at worksites that had been cited for violations to ensure that problems had been corrected, and the lack of any inspections at related company-wide worksites even when safety and health issues indicated that workers at these sites were at risk for serious injuries or death.

  294. jeremiahsteele Says:

    Geez, while my last comment is in suspended animation/mod approval mode, here’s something interesting I just found. It looks like our high strung Joe Schmoe got caught in the act watching porn after all! ha! Fucking hypocrite!

  295. jeremiahsteele Says:

    Hey since the Late Art Linkletter had this

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCHIM-bGiTI&feature=related

    Porn should have it’s own version of “Porn Stars Say (and Do) the Darndest Things”…

  296. joe know Says:

    Jerry,
    you ask who atarted this latest Osha thing. Shelley is a good guess, but it s wrong. The persones name is Darren, maybe you know him.

  297. justinlong Says:

    THIS ARTICLE IS ABOUT RACIAL DISCRIMINATION.. NOT INDUSTRY TESTING.. GO GET AN ARTICLE STARTED ABOUT INUDSTRY TESTING IF YOU WANT A PROPER VENUE

  298. jeremiahsteele Says:

    I felt sorry for Darren. He used to work behind the counter at the 24 hour Gym I used to go to in Hollywood. I tried reaching him through there but he had already left. I was trying to share with him alternative info which challenges whether he needs to resort to deadly medications for a dubiously deadly virus. The meds are guaranteed to kill if taken regularly. HIV isn’t. Darren is hardly proof though that there’s an “epidemic” like AIDS organizations say. I wonder if he’s taking any meds and if so how he’s doing.

  299. joe know Says:

    http://adultfyi.com/read.php?ID=42485

    Jerry, have your sources informed you about this yet? Can yousay big enough fines to bankrupt AIM? WHat were those famous words,,,,oh yeah,,I told you so.

    Remember when you questioned me about all the ILLEGAL practices in the industry, and you were asking for specifics. Here you go Jerry, just for you, and thanks to you I maight add.

  300. justinlong Says:

    Oh no… for god sake don’t bankrrupt AIM.. LOL ..

    you idiot you even pointed it out. Stars are NOT required to be tested you fuck.. LOLOL.. AIM is about important as you Joe.. that is implying NOT VERY… LOL.. Yes,

    I am Mr. 300 hehe like that Jeremy????

    Hay Joe knows dick… I pointed out some of your inconsistansies on the shelly lubben it up article and on blaisian’s article…

    Go turn on your life and read them… I think others will find them more interesting but i’m sure you have an excuse or two you might want to leave..

    LOLOL ok enough for my 15 minutes.. LOL.. i got to finish sending this video interview over to London.. I guess they have wanted it for a long time and fairrly bad…

    Ohhh darn guess it’ll have to be 20 minutes Joe.. LOL.. oh wait damn got to go to the ATL for a public appearance .. shit .. tell you what.. I’ll just count the time and keep you informed at the end of each month hay Joe..

    LOLOL fuckin idiot

  301. jeremiahsteele Says:

    Hey Justin, how are you, man? Congrats on being Mr. 300.

    After going to AIM and saying hello to Jim South for the first time in a while me and Lucky stopped at the adult store next door and while she got a new outfit I noticed the interracial section. You’re right. It’s all derogatory against blacks, although I guess you gotta have a sense of humor about it. That’s the way I’d look at it. But like I’ve said, I totally understand how you feel, though I don’t know how you’re actions will help improve things during these crazy porno days.

    At the same time, in case you haven’t noticed, I’ve argued against racial quotas in the mainstream world (which MLK & RFK did), which I see as an entirely different matter. But I want to make it clear to that what I advocate instead of racial quotas are economic quotas, which addresses all races that have been fucked over. MLKs revolutionary stance was anti-war and anti-poverty. I think we gotta fight corporate, capitalistic, sweat-shop and illegal alien employing greedy fucks, hand in hand, all races, colors, creeds, etc.

  302. justinlong Says:

    hey jeremy,

    Lucky is a girl??? scarrrin me man.. thought another named lucky… I love big daddy Jim.. he rocks… I agree with ya bro.. I really do.. This dance was personal… my time to say NO MOre.. i already achieved everything i wanted.. it was to get people talking LOL.. thats it.. I’m sorta really over porn.. dont need the risk for the very small income.. tired of smelly ass pussy and makin pricks with no loyalty mega money.. I’ll shoot again but only for myself and all condom..

    So we set a new record with the 300th comment !!!!!!!

    It’s official.. horray… Cindi told me earlier.. 300 comments on one article is a record.. very cool huh!!!!!

    we couldn’t had done it with a more important topic.. fuckin rock on

  303. jeremiahsteele Says:

    Yeah, I told her there was already a black male with her name when we first met. I had to get over that, as well.

    300+ definitely is a record. Glad to hear you agree with “people like me” (which actually only includes me).

    That’s right. No loyalties or royalties. If only we had Joe Know to lead us when we started years back. As a whitey I often feel dissed and pissed, but I don’t want to start crying for “white rights” because that just don’t seem right. I’m hoping to avoid what I’d really like to say about some people because I’m still hoping to work things out with them, if not I’m just gonna let loose and they’ll regret it no less than I.

    I think the problems all basically come down to lack of human respect and greed… masked by a veneer of “good buddy” friendliness…

  304. joe know Says:

    Justin,

    How does it feel knowing that all the money that perfromers give AIM has gone to pay lawyers to fight to keep producers identies secret from health authorities. AIM spent over $170,000.oo of perfromer money to make sure that producers are protected from haveing to pay for any health related issues.

    Now AIM is closing one of their locations, becuase they need the money to protect PRODUCERS, not talent.
    You guysm whether you know it or not, most likely not, have all ben getting screwed up the ass and you didnt even know it.
    AIM SPENDS PERFROMER MONEY TO PROTECT PRODUCERS.

    Jerry, have you looked into that AIM conspiracy yet? PERHAPS your secret sources could help you find the truth.LOL

  305. Larry Horse Says:

    Good point about AIM Joe, considering who is involved in AIM it is not surprising, kind of team doctors in the NFL. Steele, saw one of your older scenes, Dirty Dancers X, you were with some girl called Nikki Nice, good pop if I may say. I bet Lucky wasnt in HS when you were in that movie.

  306. jeremiahsteele Says:

    I remember that scene. I shot a super-mega-huge pop shot. It’s been a while since I worked for good ol’ Luc Wylder. I was about 27-28 then, but I pretty much have always look about 10 years younger, except for when I lived with Sophia Mounds, then I looked 10 years older.

  307. Larry Horse Says:

    Were you living with her when you had the shaved sides. That wasnt a bad flick, Nikki Lynn, Ashley Renee and some other decent broads, but not Luc’s over tattooed bad tit jobbed ex wife Ariana. Colonel, you ever work with Nikki and/or Ashley or the girl Steele worked with?

  308. jeremiahsteele Says:

    I never lived with Nikki Nice, if that’s what you’re asking. I remember working with Nikki Lynn for Brian “Cheeks” Williams back when I used to work for him a lot.

  309. justinlong Says:

    Joe Knows,

    Your a joke.. not even in the industry but you think you know more then the people that are in.. in fact that doesn’t make you a joke it make you an arrogant fuck..

    Hay Joe knows dick.. ever thought that maybe we dont give a fuck.. ???? hmmmm just an idea.. You fuck retard with all the girls hookin do you really think a test means shit to me??? you’re a fuckin idiot.. you read articles about our experiences and lives and think you know what the fuck you are talking about

    You are an arrogant fuck…

    Once money leaves my wallet i could give a flying fuck where it goes.. hay joe do you pay taxes???? and LA city is laying off 2500 teachers but hiring 4000 new beat cops with crime rate at an all time low. Hay joe dont look now but guess what .. you’re getting fucked in the ass too buddy

    the only difference is you probably like it.. LOL

  310. origen01 Says:

    Jerry or Justin:

    Do you guys take any herbal supplements, like Maca or Horny Goat Root? If so, do they enhance your performance? What about your mood?

  311. Larry Horse Says:

    Steele, I was referring to living with Sophia when you had that look a couple of years ago.

  312. jeremiahsteele Says:

    No Origin, I haven’t.

    Not sure what shaved sides you’re referring to, Larry. I think I had a close to shaven head regarding Dirty Dancers 10.

  313. joe know Says:

    Justin,
    I see you’re still making up stories about who you think I am.

    You say,,,”Your not even in the industry” Where id you get this story from?

    Justin, you have a very active imagination. You should write childrens books…..

    Maybe your first book could be “The Little STD Inside Me” The main character could be a little herpes cell, and you could name him Jerry. Of course there would be MANY more little characters inside you.

  314. jeremiahsteele Says:

    Justin got that from you, Joe, you idiot.

    You said to me yourself that you’re not in the industry (the one you keep putting down) when we were debating the subject of HIV/AIDS. You have a lot of problems.

  315. justinlong Says:

    LOLOL outted by jeremy .. you have to be a pretty pathetic piece of shit .. to not even be in the industry, but yet be so up in other peoples business.. maybe you’re pissed off because you fucked shelley lubben and she gave you something?? LOL..

    Joe Know’s exactly dick!!!!

  316. justinlong Says:

    origen01

    No I don’t …

  317. justinlong Says:

    Love how Joe didn’t address the rest of my comment… whats wrrong joe is it true .. you getting fucked BY LA county to harsh of a reality for you.

    Fuckin idiot.. if anyone has ever even gotten a ticket and pays taxes then they payed for thier own prosecution… so then whats the big suprise about aim???? LOLOL you’re a moron…

    By the way go address the other comment I left for you Mr. porn is’nt a job… i used your own words where you pointed out porn was a job that companies like vivid could get sued over..

    You’re a joke.. half arguing bitch

  318. jeremiahsteele Says:

    That’s right, Justin. Joe thinks he’s so smart. That’s why he can’t type, has to post three posts in succession each time, has to scream epithets at people, has to contradict or (“contradicked” as he’s written) himself, saying he’s in the industry and then that he’s not. At least Shelley Lubben doesn’t hide behind an anonymous identity. Let’s see Joe call people names to their faces!

    I emailed Shelley asking if she knows Joe and she emailed me back saying she has no idea who Joe is.

  319. joe know Says:

    The difference with AIM you moron, is that you are DONATING to them evey time you go there. What do taxes and tickets have to do with volutary donations that you make every month to AIM..WHydont you qeustion where your DONATIONS are going Justin.

    Is that simple enough for you.

  320. joe know Says:

    Jerry, lets see you go face to face with the ‘murderes’ sas you call them from AHF.

    I never accused anybody of the things that you have. Ive called you and idiot,moron and midget,, i never called anyone a murderer. YOU HAVE. Lets see you do that to their faces. ANd i never even know you were of short stature until YOU used the word midget. Napolean syndorme anybody? And then lets see you tell the OSHA board that HIV is reallya governmet consiracy, and not dagerous at all.

  321. jeremiahsteele Says:

    Yes, I have, any maybe you’re one of them. You seem like a fine example of AIDS Hysteria Foundation. Or, may be you’re connected with someone who’s labeled myself, a friend or someone I know a “murderer” for attempting to share alternative information. Do you know the history of AZT and cocktails? Are you aware of the criminal history of the discoverer of HIV? Are you aware that AIDS in Africa is determined by “presumptive diagnosis” without any actual testing based on the presence of diseases like diarrhea, which are prevelant anyway in those 3rd world countries? Are you part of an organization which has told us millions will die and tells patients “You will die” and then gives them poison by perscription? Are you one of those who have told us it’s an “epidemic” and send you more money fast with your skewed statistics (and reported in mainstream media) and fear tactics? Have you forced pregnant mothers to take “medicine” that kills their unborn children? Have you taken their kids away from their parents if mothers refused to murder their own kids?

    Are you, with your abusive language, one of “them”?

  322. joe know Says:

    Jerry,
    I would love to see you read the above post at the hearing on the 29th. It encompasses everything you believein a very short ,conscise manner. Lets see of you got the guts to tell it ot eh AHF face to face. No need to atgue about it here,,,time will tell.
    Becuase IF youdo show up at the meeting, and dont say these things, I wil read this post to the board and credit it to you. I cant wait.

  323. jeremiahsteele Says:

    Impractical as well as uninformed, as usual, Joe. I’m only going there to meet you, and then after that, speak of things relevant to the meeting. But don’t worry, after I sock you you can use it as further proof to your friends that we porners are loose nuts and in desperate need of all sorts of consrtaints and regulations fast! Hurry up and regulate us before the business is gone! Act now! Born Again Evangelists are standing by!

    Regulate This!

  324. justinlong Says:

    Joe knows —– you are an idiot.. that rant is as stupis as Clinton sayin in his impeachment trail “it depends on what the definition of is, is”

    donation my ass… try this joe.. walk your non pussy gettin ass into AIM and fill out your paper work and wheen you go to the front desk and they ask for your cash, simply say “you dont have money for a DONATION” and lets see if they give you a test…

    Duuuhhh call it what you want and they can call it what they want, but the money “we” pay to AIM is for a “SEVRICE” plain and simple.

    Is that CLEAR ENOUGH 4 YOU ??????

  325. justinlong Says:

    Damn now I’m going to the OSHA meeting LOL.. Jeremy send me ova your number.. hit me on twitter @ justinlongxxx I will accept and then you can DM me… I gotta go now.. Shit I aint affraid of no aids activist.. what are they gonna do spit on me????

    Joe Knows act’s like they are violent war mongers that will end you life and career in one fatal look..

    Hay Joe…. I’ll tell them that they are idiots… go where HIV is prevelant… Like maybe west hollywood and your house..

    Over 500,000 scenes are shot on the everage normal year in san fernando valley and there have been like 5 or 6 cases of HIV in mainstream straight adult talnet since like 97′ .. OK yeah we can see HIV is just rampid here.. LOL true enough each case that there has been sucks huge for the people and the industry

    Everyone thinks about it, but lets get real 5 or 6 cases in like 12 years and there has been well over 4 million scenes shot during that time.. shittttttt, lets go to west hollywood and take stats of 4 million bar hook-up’s and I fuckin guarantee there will be more then 6 cases of HIV and they have absolute choice of wether they use a condom..

    Maybe AHF is just looking for the fight and fighting with the porn industry gets headlines.. sorta like Shelley lubben.. who the fuck was she after porn and befre pink cross??? No one…. welll no one in the public eye anyway.. everyone is someone even you joe knows dick… you’re a dick but you are someone..

    Hay Joe I’m gonna get out of court early just to try to go to the OSHA meeting..

    I DARE you to introduce yourself to me..

    then I double Dogg dare you to spew that shit to me that you said, what was it “ignorant hood rat” was it..

    I’ll take a felony for that one.. no worries … i have good attornies

  326. Curly Razer Says:

    Sorry for butting in. But I randomly surfed onto this site yesterday. So I feel like I don’t have the background needed to understand everything that’s being said here.

    For what it’s worth, Justin, I support what you’re doing on principle. You sound like you’re trying to do what you think is right, and I respect that.

    Can you tell me more about the situations that led up to all this? I’m just a member of the general public, not an industry insider. So I’m a little fuzzy on some of the finer points of pre-internet porn. (Post-internet porn is so vast I don’t think it could even be categorized, let alone that I could understand your relative position in it, but that’s another subject.)

    Questions that come to mind include:
    1. Are you still willing to do black-on-black movies?

    2. Is your agent capable of helping you reach this goal?

    3. Do no studios exist who want to produce non-IR movies with black male talent?

    4. Would you consider starting a studio and making your own non-IR black content?

    5. What specific changes in the status quo would you like to see implemented?

    6. Who exactly holds the purse-strings of this industry?

    7. Could a new business model or new content which draws a new audience supplant their influence?

    8. Supposing things do change, are you cool with the IR genre continuing as a smaller niche genre?

    9. If the industry did change to support more diverse roles for black men, would you choose to go back to doing IR? (If this is a grey area, what would be the deal-breaker for you? The content? How it was marketed? The money/availability of roles?)

    10. What can individuals not in the porn industry do to help the cause?

    11. What can workers in the porn industry *not* do to help the cause, and why not? I.E. what would happen to these guys if they spoke up alongside you instead of just sending you private emails agreeing with you?

    12. What would happen if the ladies started taking your side on this?

    13. Suppose we try absolutely everything, but it turns out that porn consumers in this age and in this market just don’t want to support a more diversified industry. What then?

    Wow, this ended up being a lot longer than I expected. Oh well. Not like the post wasn’t long to begin with. I went back and numbered them so people can easily speak up about certain points. (I.E. your dead wrong about #10 and #12 wouldn’t work because of blah blah blah.)

    You don’t have to answer all of these, and I certainly don’t expect you to provide specifics that would burn any more bridges than the ones you want burnt. But anything you could do to illuminate this hapless noob would be greatly appreciated. :)

    I address Justin directly, knowing that the rest of you will give me your two cents whether I ask for it or not. :P

    But that’s a good thing. :) Can’t have a discussion about controversial shit without some disagreement. Just try not to let your attitude overshadow your message, okay guys?

  327. jeremiahsteele Says:

    Morning Justin (I don’t say “good morning”, just “morning” because it’s too soon to tell), I’m not even registered with twitter, nor even know or care how (pathetic, I know), so email me jeremysteele07@yahoo.com

    And just in case you can’t get out of court earlier, no worries, bro. I’ll handle it on yours behalf, as well. Just save that attorney’s number for me because I’ll be pleading insanity.

    You just gotta love the heart of these “do-gooders”, huh?

    Yeah, HIV is an “epidemic”. It’s catching up to vehicle deaths and disabling accidents FAST!! Put a rubber on my cock, my toungue, my whole body in fact.

    Maybe I’ll shit in a condom and throw it at someone…

  328. joe know Says:

    Jerry says,,,,”After I sock you”
    Justin says,,,,”I’ll take a felony for that one.I have good lawyers.

    Are you boys actually making threats of violence against me? Sure looks like it to me. I guess you win the debate. The only thing that really surpirses me is that it took you this long to resort to threats of violence.

  329. justinlong Says:

    Joe you been lodging threats this whole time… LOL “i’ll read your post jerry” ect….. threats don’t just include violence.. you and shelley lubben threaten peoples livelyhood every time yu open your fuckin mouth.

    maybe they should all take those matters to the courts for slander.. 25 cases of HIV among adults since 04′ my ass.. that is flat out a Lie and you and Shelley both know it.. You people twist the thruth and then expect what????

    I just said I would take a felony for that one… thier are many types and reasons for felonies thier Joe… maybe I planned on stealing your wallet and then outing your true idickety and then toilet papering your house???? maybe I planned on having a big ole boy straight out the pen to ass rape you???? maybe I planned on super gluing your fingers together so you could never one handed type again LOL

    See thier are many types and reasons to gain a felony that are non violent.. look who is conjuring up a crazy imagination now… LOLOL..

  330. joe know Says:

    Justin(toughguy)

    Looks like youre trying to backpedal on that threat you made in post 325.

    My “threats” were to tell the truth. Your threats were to commit violence. Now that I have called you out on your threats of violene, you immediately backtrack and try to make it seem less violent.

    Justin, what about Jerrys threat to ‘sock’ me? How is he ging to back out of that one….Actually I bet he wont. At least Jerry has the balls to stick to what he says, and as I have stated before, there is something to be said for that.

    LOL that threat to take a felony for toilet papering my house. You continue to amuse me Justin, thanks for the laugh.

  331. justinlong Says:

    Joe know I said I would take a felony for that one — read it how you want to.. you’re an idiot minus the savant..

    glad you know the law Joe — in all actuality toilet paperng a house caqn be a felony depending on how much it cost to clean it up thier smart guy.. Actually i figured I would gain the felony by forcing you to do your first scene and it was gonna be with shelley lubben — then you can sue the company for catching what she has and she can sue the company for catching what you have

    LOLOL and me and jerry will just load dump on both of you.. and hopefully we will both have G & C and it will get your eyes and mouth and then you can experience the feminine issues that female talent have so when you ramble about what you have never exp. n ow you can have the exp. andd ffinally speak about something you have exp. first hand..

    See even in the commission of a felony I am still thinking about your well being.. shit I’ll even drive you tto AIM so YOU can give a donation and be treated.. LOL

  332. justinlong Says:

    Curly razer – i missed your post some how.. I got it now though.. I am pretty busy this afternoon but will address it tonight no doubt.. Good questions though..

    I appreciate it and will write back tonigh K

  333. Curly Razer Says:

    Sounds good.

    Another thing, Justin, please calm down when dealing with these jokers. They’re probably just random internet trolls. Keep in mind, trolls don’t actually believe what they’re saying, they’re just trying to get the other guy riled up until he blinks.

    You blink when you say something in anger that doesn’t serve your purposes in the long run.

    So just try and blink less, okay? Threats don’t work on the internet. If anything, they just make you sound bad.

  334. justinlong Says:

    Curly here we go

    Questions that come to mind include:
    1. Are you still willing to do black-on-black movies?

    I’m not really shooting anything in the industry in the US anymore..

    2. Is your agent capable of helping you reach this goal?

    One of my agents is closing on July first and the other is open and both could get me work but I am simply choosing not to work.

    3. Do no studios exist who want to produce non-IR movies with black male talent?

    that would be black on black and very few studios are producing it in LA

    4. Would you consider starting a studio and making your own non-IR black content?

    Not in LA… i have lost interest being involved with the industry in the US

    5. What specific changes in the status quo would you like to see implemented?

    the end of racial discrimination… and full panel testing

    6. Who exactly holds the purse-strings of this industry?

    the consumer

    7. Could a new business model or new content which draws a new audience supplant their influence?

    i think just better content.. thierr are so many types of content I dont know if you could come up with a totally new kind.. just adjustments to existing ones

    8. Supposing things do change, are you cool with the IR genre continuing as a smaller niche genre?

    IR is the biggest selling genre in the world so i dont think it would ever be a niche or fetish

    9. If the industry did change to support more diverse roles for black men, would you choose to go back to doing IR? (If this is a grey area, what would be the deal-breaker for you? The content? How it was marketed? The money/availability of roles?)

    I really have no interest in going back to work in SFV.. however from most blacks perpective the content needs to change to show blacks in a better light, and it’s needs to be marketed along with black talent.. absolutely there needs to be more equal pay more so for the black girls then guys but more roles as well

    10. What can individuals not in the porn industry do to help the cause?

    Quit supporting studios and talent that would discriminate based on color and race

    11. What can workers in the porn industry *not* do to help the cause, and why not? I.E. what would happen to these guys if they spoke up alongside you instead of just sending you private emails agreeing with you?

    Not do.. you lost me.. to not make change they just have to keep going as business as usual.. to make change they need to stand up like I did and say enough is enough… the industry could not afford to get rid of even the top 12 black guys.. I have left and producers and talent are all in awww .. producers are still calling me.. some straight mad I refuse to do IR.. if all the black males took a stand the producers would listen and make every change they could including not shooting girls that blacks had issue with

    12. What would happen if the ladies started taking your side on this?

    Nothing.. marie luv and monica foster have.. marie aint feelin no pain because of it..

    13. Suppose we try absolutely everything, but it turns out that porn consumers in this age and in this market just don’t want to support a more diversified industry. What then?

    “if” ??? IR is the most sold content in the world without doubt.. if the consumer chose that they wouldn’t support it then blacks might as well start looking for non insudtry jobs then because they are all going broke as it is now

  335. justinlong Says:

    Curly i think I miss understood #12

    I think if the girls took a stand it wwould bring unity to the blacks but the males would have to stand as well.. black girls are often cast solely with black males but if they refused to work with girls that refuse to do IR (funny how they refuse to do IR but they will work with black women) then I think that would matter more

  336. Curly Razer Says:

    Interesting insights.

    Sorry I lost you on #11. What I meant was, are your friends in the Industry not able to stand beside you on this issue for fear of retribution from producers, or even just plain being out of work because only IR films are scheduled for production?

    I had no idea IR was all that popular. Can you cite your source on that? I mean I’ve googled some stuff, I’ve been to some websites and I’ve been inside one really surprisingly nice XXX boutique in Seattle… and it seemed like there were a lot of different styles of porno out there.

    I mean look at the ads over here on the right side of the page. I see mostly blonde girls and very little mention of the guys. A few parodies of real movies. If IR is really the biggest piece of the pie, you’d think there would be more IR content over there.

    I just now googled “Porn.” You got a couple tube sites, a bunch of link sites and blogs, and one news story. I’ll dig a little deeper and click on these sites, but I don’t see any sites dedicated to IR in the top hit results. Looking through these pages, I see a few IR results but the majority of the content seems to be white-on-white. And I see as much black-on-black as black-on-white.

    You know what, I just realized, the internet is probably filtering my search results based on what I have clicked on in the past. So this whole thing was pretty pointless.

    But I still find it hard to believe that IR is the most sold content in the world. You’d think you’d see more of it if that were the case… did you mean it’s the most profitable type of content a black male performer can find?

    By all means if you can give me some numbers or cite your sources for where you get your statistics, that would help me see the picture of the industry you see.

    If all your experience is anecdotal, well, maybe IR isn’t as prevalent as you think. Maybe it’s just what your producer sees as the best opportunity for you right now. He might have said it was the “fastest-growing” genre, for instance, but that’s not necessarily the same thing as “biggest.” And it certianly doesn’t mean “only.” Casual Games were the fastest-growing segment of the video game industry last year, for example, but they’re still making HALO.

    I guess after hearing your answers to my first batch of questions, it raises several more:

    1b. Would you want to work in the porn industry overseas? If so, which countries appeal to you and why?

    2b. Why the emphasis on L.A.? There are other emerging markets in the U.S. as I understand it. What’s going on in those markets? Or is your agent specialized for finding work within L.A.?

    3b. The top 12 black guys are really that central to the industry? Or just to IR? No offense but 12 guys doesn’t seem like that many people. Even if they each put out, I don’t know, let’s say 12 IR movies per year, that’s still just a drop in the bucket of the total pron produced… right?

    I’m sorry I’m having such a hard time grasping the scope of this thing. I don’t mean to downplay the issue or trivialize it. It’s just from my perspective as an outsider, it seems like IR isn’t that popular. I don’t see it advertised and I don’t see that much of it by volume. I could be wrong on this. I’d like more details, and hard numbers, if you can get them.

    If it’s literally the most popular porn in the world even though it’s a small fraction of the total porn produced and retailers seem nervous about carrying it or advertising it… at least overtly enough for me to notice much of it… and people seek it out anyway… that’s horrifying and you’re fucked. I’m sorry, but what you describe (if I’m reading you right) is just an insane amount of demand. Far too much demand to wipe out, barring a major act of law. And even then the problem would just go underground.

    Let’s assume (pray) that’s not the case, for now. Here are some thoughts:

    1c. If those top 12 black guys you mentioned feel the same way you do, try and get them on board.

    2c. Do try to gather support from male and female, black and white performers, and even from casual consumers like me. Everyone uses porn. They should be made aware of this issue.

    3c. Be honest about what you see in the industry and how you feel about it. But don’t lose your shit when someone disagrees with you. Especially when it’s someone anonymous online. They are anonymous and your identity is known. That means you have to be more polite than them if you want a neutral third party to listen to you. I know. Sucks, don’t it?

    4c. Keeping in mind the previous, don’t try to censor or alter anything you may have written before and come to regret. People will have access to backups and old copies, and these WILL be circulated as curious people explore the issue. Just own up to your mistakes and try to rise above them next time.

    5c. If you can get even a small group of friends from the Industry to take a stand with you on this and also quit doing IR, it might have an impact.

    6c. I don’t think you could halt IR production entirely unless literally all the black people in America banded together to stamp it out. Then again, it’s happened before…

    7c. A more accessible short-term goal might be to start producing some non-degrading black porn. You wouldn’t even need to go exclusively black-on-black. If you have a few performers and crew who will take your side on this issue, you’re set. Write your own script. Portray blacks however you think is best. Maybe put some movie in there around the porn. Anything is possible! If you feel better out of L.A. or out of the country, do it someplace else. The marketplace is global now. Start a website.

    8c. And let’s see some existing alternatives. Surely you’ve seen at least porno in your life that you could relate to (had a black character) and you enjoyed (was sexy without being degrading.) So what are some titles? Name some titles. I’m curious to hear about the movies that made you wanna get into porn in the first place. Hold these titles up as a shining positive example of what porn with black people in it can be. If the industry’s not doing it, check the amateur market. Even check the tube sites. You know how big porn is. Someone somewhere has got to be doing it right.

    9c. If all else fails, I guess you’d have to end up doing the bleeding heart politician thing. Clean up your act. Find religion. Go into Porn Rehab. Start a special interest group and try to forge an alliance with other political groups. I’d hate to see that, because it would put you at odds with the adult industry. I know you gotta do what you gotta do though, and I respect that.

    That’s a call you’d have to make much later though. In the meantime, it seems like you at least triggered quite a discussion here.

    You might wanna start your own website about this issue with a community like this one so people can sign up and post. It’d be a good way to gauge interest from individuals outside the industry before you start taking action. I’m sure the industry itself is fairly tight-knit and I’m sure your friends have already given you their support privately.

    What action you can take next depends on how many people you can get and how big your goals are. If your goal is to eliminate the genre, it might not happen within your lifetime, and you’d make a lot of enemies.

    On the other hand, just providing some positive black porn might help. Especially if people who are normally against porn or turned off by it found something worthwhile in what you were doing. This could be that new emerging market I talked about.

    Or like you hinted at, you could go elsewhere and maybe find better prospects in other world markets. I don’t really know anything about that so I’ll leave it up to you to fill in the blanks.

    I think people in general are against racism, at least in theory. I don’t know how many people would risk their paychecks over it. But you’ve taken the first step. Good luck to you and if there’s anything I can do to help, let me know.

  337. justinlong Says:

    Curly — sorry been wrapped up in other conversation today.. i will respond to this post tomorrow OK.. promise

  338. Curly Razer Says:

    No prob man.

    I talk too much, it’s a bad habit. :p

  339. jeremiahsteele Says:

    HEY, WHAT HAPPENED TO “JOE KNOW”? Gee, I don’t know.

    Me & Justin just might have to play “Watson & The Black John Holmes”, then after we expose him we’ll tag team some hot ladies.

    “Elementary, Mutherfucker!”

    -Word.

  340. justinlong Says:

    LOLOL see now that is why I love ya jeremy.. LOL.. yeah Joe has been awfully quite since you posted that shit.. how solid was that source bruh????

    Damn and of all people (if it is s) he should know what it feels like to be discriminated against. man I really always thought s and I were tight and had a really good connection. Hmmm guess all that the gay community has exp. with discrimination taught him nothing about being compassionate for others that are discriminated against either. Then to make a comment like “ignorant hood rats” Wow…

  341. jeremiahsteele Says:

    Well, if it’s true (and sometimes it’s hard to believe things that turn out to actually be true), he might’ve been saying all kinds of crazy shit to act like something he’s not so that no one would suspect it of being him, ya know?

    Just remember, if S’s capable of stealing and was fired from AIM for doing so, he’s capable of this behavior as well. Also, did you notice that it seemed Ray was his support system as “JRodman”?

    There obviously was a motive and if the person who’s attacking us actually stole from AIM and then was subsequently fired, there’s motive to not only attack AIM, but do so with such personal passion and interest. It, indeed seemed very “personal”, in the sense of “getting even”.

    This “Joe Know” wasn’t just a person trying to do what’s right. There’s something WRONG with this man.

    I have a feeling it’s causing a whirlwind of chaos right now…

    We’ll just have to see how it goes while doing our part…

  342. justinlong Says:

    Jeremy,

    Hmm i dont know I sware she had yelled she was a lesbian from the first time I met her.. all her early work was girl girl even .. look her up on http://www.iafd.com .. maybe I’m mistake or maybe I just heard a differnt version cause I am black..

    Go figure a girl starting to do IR when she is in need of money and can’t get white on white shoot’s .. nah never !!! LOLOL and now we all see why I’m sitting here puttin fools on blast huh????? funny shit for realz though…

    maybe here excuse was she was “attracted” to black men and maybe when she found her short career and money fading away all of a sudden she saw the light and became attracted to black men??

    Hmmmm doubt it.. maybe and just maybe I say.. she just tolerated black men fuckin her, because she needed money and attraction didn’t have a damn thing to do with it…

    Tell us Sophia Mounds — we’re you not attracted to black men in 06′ and then just had a life altering change of heart in 08′ and deccided that black men were NOW attractive… ?????

    Or is what you wrote in your article that was so poorly written and plagorizing of my article just all bullshit and did your action in the industry prove my point???

    I’m betting on the latter.. you were fuckin shot out and blacks were beneath you when you werre making money and as soon as that money went away, then and only then were you willing to take a black cock in you.. using blacks for your own personal gain when it suit you..

    Sophia Mounds — you are exactly the type of bitch i’m blastin ….. your own actions speak louder then your incoherant words you washed up has been.. attraction my ass…. it’s about money

  343. justinlong Says:

    Curly —- here ya go

    1c. If those top 12 black guys you mentioned feel the same way you do, try and get them on board.

    many have tried and all have failed.. they have no interest or reason to they are making there money

    2c. Do try to gather support from male and female, black and white performers, and even from casual consumers like me. Everyone uses porn. They should be made aware of this issue.

    this article has made many consumers aware of whats going on since it has been published on some probably 30 sites.. it really went viral to some extents

    3c. Be honest about what you see in the industry and how you feel about it. But don’t lose your shit when someone disagrees with you. Especially when it’s someone anonymous online. They are anonymous and your identity is known. That means you have to be more polite than them if you want a neutral third party to listen to you. I know. Sucks, don’t it?

    the truth speaks volumes and while people have read me sounding upset, I came from the streets and the hood basically and if i really lost it then I would be taking the fight thier.. to the streets.. i am not loosing it.. i’m waking people up with inflamatory answers and writings

    but at the same time the only reason people even find them inflammatory is because it incompasses there actions and they dont like being found out

    4c. Keeping in mind the previous, don’t try to censor or alter anything you may have written before and come to regret. People will have access to backups and old copies, and these WILL be circulated as curious people explore the issue. Just own up to your mistakes and try to rise above them next time.

    I can’t censor previous post on here so i dont find that even relivant. I have stuck to my guns the whole way. I am not a spokesmen for the black race.. I am a dude that this bullshit effected.. it plain and simple effected my income for many years.. I spoke up for me and told people what myself and other blacks were thinking..

    Do i feel some resposibility towards blacks as far as what I say???? yes.. it’s BS but yes.. Do I try to keep that in mind??? yes.. will i let it keep me from speaking my mind???? sure wont… make no mistake .. if I want to go completely off the grid and do my own thing.. No one can stop me .. not blacks white producers directors or any other power that be in the industry..

    As long as I stay true to my fans then they are all i need to make some sort of income fucking for a living

    5c. If you can get even a small group of friends from the Industry to take a stand with you on this and also quit doing IR, it might have an impact.

    I have .. a very small group and more white performers then black.. but i do not solicit them … they agree and cheer and root for change of there own accord.. change was made as soon as I had the article published.. change starts with shedding light on a problem and thats what I did

    6c. I don’t think you could halt IR production entirely unless literally all the black people in America banded together to stamp it out. Then again, it’s happened before…

    wanna bet???? if the top 24 black performers in the world refused to do IR and refused to shoot for any company ever again if they hired a black that crossed the picket line and then refused to work for any company ever again that ever hired any black person that crossed the picket line then what do you think would happen?????

    Do you really think a dp or vivid would risk a sean or lex just to shoot a tone capone or ice cold? (not to bag on tone he’s a homie)

    but that would take the top 24 taking a stand and being unified and resolute in thier stance and “that” will never happen..

    7c. A more accessible short-term goal might be to start producing some non-degrading black porn. You wouldn’t even need to go exclusively black-on-black. If you have a few performers and crew who will take your side on this issue, you’re set. Write your own script. Portray blacks however you think is best. Maybe put some movie in there around the porn. Anything is possible! If you feel better out of L.A. or out of the country, do it someplace else. The marketplace is global now. Start a website.

    Oh i’m gonna shoot my own stuff.. it wont be in LA.. better question is why are’nt black owned companies doing it already, because they are saying the same damn shit i am. they are just saying it behind closed doors where no one will take recourse against them for saying it

    8c. And let’s see some existing alternatives. Surely you’ve seen at least porno in your life that you could relate to (had a black character) and you enjoyed (was sexy without being degrading.) So what are some titles? Name some titles. I’m curious to hear about the movies that made you wanna get into porn in the first place. Hold these titles up as a shining positive example of what porn with black people in it can be. If the industry’s not doing it, check the amateur market. Even check the tube sites. You know how big porn is. Someone somewhere has got to be doing it right.

    i have my own ideas for what type of content I will make and it will be web based not dvd based..

    I think you and many others are missing the point.. just because i say fuck you industry and people that shit on black talent, it doesn’t mean I have to fix it.. I have accomplished what i wanted to do.. that was siimply to start the conversation in a public forum…

    It is NOT my responsibility to fix it !!!!! it’s not my responsibility to start producing racially correct product or figure out new marketing or to get black people AVN’s Foxxx or nightnoves awards.. none of that shit is my responsibility..

    I could care less if i ever shoot another scene ever again for a company… I will shoot stuff i want to shoot when I’m damn good and ready to shoot it !!!!

    but people keep telling me to start a company and shoot responsibly and fix the problem…

    I dont have to.. they are the ones staying 100% active in the industry.. they are the ones that actually own companies.. they can do it them damn selves.. it’s not my problem to fix..

    I have washed my hands of it.. i been painting a target on my back for 5 years yelling this shit in public with NO ONE standing up behind me.. but I’ll be damned if they aint bitched to me and agreed with me on the phone and in the confines of black people only

    but they wont stand up and say enough is enough like i have and they wont because they are making thier money as the selected guys and gals that have been chosen to be honorarally inducted into the ‘white’s only no blacks allowed club”

    All they are doing is continueing to let the younger brothers and siters rott in a racially discriminative atmosphere that they had to grow up in themselves and now that they have made it, they could give a flying fuck and that is proven by thier lack of action and voice..

    where the fuck is thier voice.. where are thier dollars going???? tell you where.. to mostly white, latina, and asian girls… I have respect for these cats for what they have perservered through to get where they are.

    As far as them helping the black community in the industry… I dont see it.. maybe I’m blind.. but if I’m blind then most blacks are blind cause they dont see it either.. and the youngs brothas tell me that, thats how i know…

    9c. If all else fails, I guess you’d have to end up doing the bleeding heart politician thing. Clean up your act. Find religion. Go into Porn Rehab. Start a special interest group and try to forge an alliance with other political groups. I’d hate to see that, because it would put you at odds with the adult industry. I know you gotta do what you gotta do though, and I respect that.

    Hay you will never see that.. I have no fear and already have shit started outside the industry.. I built it from nothing but a business card.. it has nothing to do with porn.. thats my future NOT porn.. any porn I do in the future will be to finance these ventures..

    I am a certified commercial diver and that was my future until i got rear ended on the 210 in 06′ buldging 3 of my disc and not only putting me out of commercial diving but also putting me out of going back into the millitary as an officer part time that I was days away from MEPS

    I am not one of these cats that has no skill … I am not afraid of the real world nor is dicken bitches down the only thing I have going for me.. thats not even a close to a representation of me by a fucking long shot (not saying you are saying that).. anyone that knows me knows that..

    You have a lot of good points and if i was trying to stay in the industry and actually be a savior of black stars that have no voice I would give myself the same advice you just gave, but thats not the case..

    I’m gonna do some stuff in the future more likely then not, and maybe even some black on black for companies just to finance my non-industry ventures, but I have no interest in being known as or actualy being some self proclaimed savior of the black people in porn.. shelley lubben can do that.. oh wait she only helps women and white ones at that

    I speak from the heart and shoot from the hip and wanted to out these pieces of shit that basically discriminate against blacks..

    Sorry, I just dont think of them very highly as people or humans.. if that gets me some banning from SFV porn (as if one or more people even have that power, because I have company owners standing behind me and still want to shoot me)then so be it, because my messege is very clear.. fuck the people that discriminate.. talent,agents, and production companies alike

    “You can’t loose what you aint never had and were never gonna get in the first place” is what I’m saying.. ouchhhh are vivid, wicked, dp, stormy daniels, tera patrick, derek haye or joel lawernce gonna hurt me???? LOL

    they can’t hurt me.. the girls refuse to fuck black’s in the first place..

    Side not; these girls say they dont do IR but yet they work with balck girls.. hmm how does that work???? maybe thier lack of attraction is only representitive of Black males not black female.. hmm just a thought

    the agents??? derek has one black girl !!! oh no he might limit my possibilities of ever shooting black on black … enough said..

    and I dont and have never shot for 99% of the companies i am blastin anyway.. fuck them with a lex steele dildo I say.. (not baggin on lex but his cock is bigger then mine)

    You feel me.. like whooaaaa I’m scared.. Believe me if i set my mind to it i could make some calls and be living in Japan and working there making more then i ever did in the US and they do full panel testing..

    the girls are not prema donnas .. and a case of chlymedia or gohnorea there is like OMG shcoking… I have worked their and for them many times and would trade here for thier in a fuckin heart beat..

    But i don’t even know if I want to be in porn anymore besides for fun and for myself. so i dont make those calls and go 100% at it..

    please believe me.. AVN calls Don fernando the “Asian man” but make no mistake I am one of maybe three people in this industry that can set up shoots in Japan with actual japanese talent (not prostitutes) and actually get em done.. don fernando came to me to do that… same wit many others.. big and small companies.. you would be suprised

    The US industry can’t hurt me.. I could go anywhere in the world and shoot porn and immeadiately jump in the game because i have a name (not a lex name or a sean name, but a name just the same)

    this is my explanation to your post I hope it sufficed.. I think you ask good questions and if my situation was as maybe i think you thought it was, i agree you had good advice…

  344. Curly Razer Says:

    Interesting.

    Sorry if my posts seemed naive or condescending in any way. It’s obvious I don’t know you, don’t know your past work, or anything about the hood lifestyle you were brought up in. Like you, I try to call things like I see ‘em. If the way I see things seems wrong, that’s what a dialogue is for. You can straighten me out on some things and maybe once in a while you might even learn something from me in return.

    It’s too bad you don’t want to take up this cause. Your initial post sparked a tremendous amount of interest by the general public. Someone is going to capitalize on that interest. It might be someone in the industry like you who’s had enough, or it might be some white politician who doesn’t give a shit about racial equality but just wants to crack down on the porn industry so he can score points with voters.

    (I’ve never understood how that works, by the way. Almost everyone uses porn, but all politicians are against porn. At some point won’t people react better to the first candidate who comes along to endorse porn? Do voters just side with the guy so no one thinks they, the voter, like porn? I don’t get it.)

    At the very least, I think you should start some kinda forum website where people could congregate to keep the conversation moving. Feel free to wash your hands of it after that, but we’re rapidly overwhelming this vertical wordpress column, we could use a proper forum in which to discuss this. It’s a complex issue and I know I’ve only scratched the surface so far in my understanding of it.

    But jeez there’s a lot of drama here. Even compared to other websites. Really toxic, angry stuff. And both sides just talk about this sort of incomplete caricature of the other side.

    “Porn is bad and all porn stars have aids.” “Politicians are evil and don’t care about the performers.” “It’s not a fetish, it sells too well.” “You can’t be against racism, you used to make these movies.” It’s a classical debate fallacy called the “Straw man” argument, and everyone involved in this debate seems to be doing it!

    (I’m sure I’m guilty it too from time to time, but the difference is when someone tells me I’m wrong, I listen to why they think I’m wrong and I try to work with them to get shit figured out. It’s more important to me to understand where the other side is coming from and to get them to understand me than it is for me to win the argument. Maybe I wouldn’t feel that way if I had a dog in this race… or if I had to deal with other peoples’ ingrained ignorance 24/7 instead of just whenever I feel like going on line and talking about it.)

    Anyway, good luck with your future projects, whatever they turn out to be. I have to admit I’m curious. Again, disappointed that you don’t seem willing to take on a leadership role with this issue. A lot of people agree something needs to give. I sure hope it’s not someone like Shelly Lubben who’s calling the shots when people finally get organized.

  345. jeremiahsteele Says:

    Don’t overanalyze Sophia, Justin. Don’t try to make sense out of the senseless. I checked that site, I only see a handfull of lesbo stuff.

  346. justinlong Says:

    Haya Curly — who ever takes this role on full time and starts really in big vebues speaking out.. could very well get shot and killed..

    thi is not a joke and people are dead serious about it. thier are litterally fans of girls out thier that would shoot to kill if they believed someone was on the verge of making the sickos favorite girl be tainted by a black cock..

    we have seen it time and time again with people that speak out for racial equality. I appreciate your endorsment, but I have no interest in being like Shelley Lubben and making my living off of a lie that I am supposedly helping people, even though if i did it I would actually be helping the black people.

    yeah it’s a crazy debate huh..

    This article set records on LIB for the most commented article ever for LIB.. cindi told me that herself.. pretty amazing.. i didn’t think this would be the response.. it has sparked at least two other articles here on LIB and has been uploaded to so many sites I cant even count..

    That is what i wanted to do though.. make people aware to what was going on and get the problem out in the open.. now people can deny that it’s real or happening, but look back in the begining and even christianxxx and several other WHITE performers agree what I am saying is happening, these performers are comfirming and straight saying yes it’s happening

    I know who christianxxx is and he is friends with people that i have blasted.. he works for and is friends with some of these company owners and agents and girls.. so for him to say yes justin is telling the truth and this shit is really going down (but in his own words) then that is much more powerfull then any black performer saying it…

    Much love to christianxxx and all the people in porn that have stood up and told the truth here and admitted that what I wrote is not some conspiracy theory.. it’s what is really going on and it is really effecting peoples lives

  347. Curly Razer Says:

    Dang, man. I was only thinking the performers you’ve mentioned so far and the slightly racist fans who I guess get a kick out of seeing the stereotypes portrayed. I didn’t even think about the really crazy, REALLY racist fans who would get violent over a girl crossing over from one genre to another.

    You have to understand how ridiculous that sounds to me. That would be like somebody shooting someone because Harrison Ford stopped doing Action movies and started making Romantic Comedies. That’s how it sounds, to me. Because I don’t think of the race thing as being a big deal.

    But like you said, yeah, almost anyone who tries to implement change makes some enemies. I like to think we’re at a point where one crazy gunman can be countered by security forces, but of course that’s only the case if you’ve got the money to afford that level of security.

    Maybe you’re smart to limit your exposure to this issue. Though frankly, people will always think of your name if anything comes of it because you made the first post which went viral. It makes me wonder if you haven’t already taken too big of a risk. Moving to another country is starting to make a lot more sense.

    Protip: Don’t drive through Texas. If possible, don’t take any flights which might have a layover in Texas. Texas is fucking insane when it comes to racism. But I’m sure you knew that already.

    I wonder if this is the kind of thing that can take on a life of its own. Can social change happen without a figurehead? Perhaps it can. Maybe enough people blogging and twittering and gossiping about this could start putting pressure on producers, consumers, and those top 12 johns.

    It sounds like a big turning point would be getting the women in the porn industry to take a stand… it’s hard for me to imagine what the right thing would be for them to do, though. If they quit doing IR like you did, they’re perpetuating the idea that doin’ it with a black guy is bad and some sort of career-killer. But if they keep doing IR they’re perpetuating the genre itself. It’s kind of a quagmire. How do you fix this?

    Hopefully, better minds than mine are already coming up with ideas, in random discussion threads all over the internet. Maybe someone who doesn’t feel threatened by hypothetical gun-toting loonies will step forward to take a more active role. Perhaps several someones.

    You’d think the NAACP would get involved at some point. But I guess they don’t want the stigma of associating with the porn industry, either. It’s sad, really.

    Just speaking as a consumer, it’s pretty obvious that people like porn. I look forward to a day when individual Americans don’t feel the need to hide it or feel ashamed about it. I think it’s bullshit for anti-porn to be the popular position when everyone uses porn so much.

    Maybe politicians are aware of this, too. Maybe that’s why there’s so much doubletalk about “destroying the porn culture” these days. They can read the writing on the wall, and they know that pretty soon, more people are gonna be fer it than are again’ it.

    BTW, what is “full panel testing?” I googled it but I couldn’t find a real basic definition. It sounds to me like a test for basically all STDs, is that accurate? If that’s what it means, I support full panel testing. That’s kind of a no-brainer. Hell, not just for porn stars. If they could mass-produce the tests in a little kit, I’d be in favor of mandatory full-panel testing as a part of regular checkups.

  348. justafan Says:

    Justin I would like to tell you that I did at your suggestion look up your filmography. Was kinda hard at first because I kept hitting the mainsteam actor with the same name. (Off Topic He stole Zack and Miri in my eyes) I finally found you on iafd and the titles of the movies listed for you don’t seem that bad actually quite funny. I hope you understand that the series i pointed out was in my way agreeing with you on what is going on

  349. justinlong Says:

    curly — yes it can get very crazy.. you know all us black guys have done the little 18yr old from arkansas, south carolina, texas ect.. and thier daddy’s i’m sure would love nothing more then to put a bullett in us.. not even cause we did anything to the girl but simply to vent thier frustration that thier little girl is getting nailed on film for the world to see and then to add insult to injury we are black

    Nothing like going to work and you biuddies jacked off the night before to your 18 yr old daughter getting nailed by a black man and you are a good old boy from the south or where ever.. feel me..

    Security is possible but anyone that has a gun and knows how to shoot well and has it set in thier head to kill someone is a dangerous person.. for instance .. presidents have been shot and injured or killed and they have the best security money can buy.. look at regan when he was shot… or JFK for that matter… Yes full panel testing is normally HIV chlymedia, gahnorrea, hep a,b, and c, syphillis, herpies 1 and 2,

  350. justinlong Says:

    justafan —- yeah iafd is a good source.. i use it often.. you know movie titles often are not even available to the performer when we book a scene.. then once a scene is shot it goes to compilations and gets sold and so on and it could end up in many places..

    there is no way to know 100% what the title of a film is going to end up being… and once the thing is shot and the they have paid you and you have signed a model release.. its game over.. they could name the movie fuck the president and as talent you cant do a damn thing.. I think titles should be less racially inflamatory, but you know bottom line is I have never been racially slurring i dont believe in any of my movies..

    The female talent i work with are people just like me.. do some stuff for springthomas.com shit was really racial towards blacks but again it’s either go with the flow or find a new line of work.. it’s sorta like being in the millitary and all of a sudden you have to go crack heads in south central after the rodney king trail cause you are ordered to but at the same time you dont agree.. or being ordered to invade a country and you dont agree with the policy

    We support are troops even though they physically carry out the attack and we blame the ones for giving em the order, while here people would blame the troops and give the powers that be a pass.. it’s a double standard..

  351. jeremiahsteele Says:

    Anyway, so we can get to post #400:

    Q: Do you think there should be racial quotas in basketball? Who says white man can’t jump? or hump?

    A. Yes

    B. No

    C. Don’t know

    D. Don’t care.

  352. justafan Says:

    justin you have a good head on your shoulders i hope you know what your doing because trust me right now the “real” world is just as scary i myself stuck up for my beliefs in jan and feb of 2009 and by march i was unemployed and been there since

  353. justafan Says:

    E. White Man Cant Jump starred Woody Harrelson and his father has ties to conspiracy theories your turn Jeremy

  354. jeremiahsteele Says:

    uh, thanks. Are you drinking again, JAF? Or what?

    Hey Justin. Where’s Joe Know? It seems S beamed himself off LIB.

    He escaped out of here at Warp Factor 8 (ludicrous speed).

  355. justafan Says:

    yes im drinking but im not drunk (yet)

  356. jeremiahsteele Says:

    That’s what Sophia said right before she attacked me.

  357. justafan Says:

    well to help get this to 400

  358. justinlong Says:

    go search trailer trash as a movie title on iafd.. you find girls like tiffany mynxxx, nikki sinn, chelsea zinn, jessica drake, stormy daniels, taylor st. claire, avy scott, brittany skye, taylor rain and others.. you’ll also find guys like hershal savage, evan stone, joel lawernce, lee stone, chris cannon, mark davis, ben english (aka derek haye) and other

    So before fools get to out of hand (thats too late — not you justafan, but joe knows yes)

    Take a look at the people you say have the right to do what they do as far as discriminate against blacks, and your weak as argument that they have that right because blacks work in racially unpleasant titled movies. The people you say have the right to discriminate have worked in movies that are racially suggestive as well.. ”

    Mr. keetle meet mr. pot he’s white”

    that was the saying right Joe Knows

    stick that in your blunt and smoke it….

    this is fun lets look for more white suggestive titles and see who was in em shall we????

    Hmmm “honey tonk angels” with nina hartley, tom byron, randy west, tony Montana, and others

    “honky tonk teens with nikki benz, katie gold (bitch), dick tracy and others

    “honky tonk girl” with carmen hart, kristen price, tommy gunn (not sure which one), christianxxx and many more A list guys

    how about “big ass crackers” starring (drum role) alexis texas, allie haze, nikki sexxx, james deen, erik everhard and others

    LOL “blackgirls wanna a cracker” starring various well known black girls and our very own jeremy steele, dirty harry, alec baldwin and others

    “cracker jacker” starring felony, and alex devine

    OK “chocolate chicks on cracker dicks #4″ starring mark zane and mark davis.. sacha and van damage also starred in volumes of that series

    you dont even want to go to the white on white gay titles like “Crackers Crumble… Ghetto Whiteboys Rumble”

    “bang my tight white ass” it straight porn and their are 27 volumes and the white female stars names are fuckin endless with top names in em

    White people do the exact same shit.. but they exp. no discrimination because of it..

    So whats your excuse now ^^^^^Joe Knows^^^^^^ your own race is selling it’s self out… as long as the check clears right Joe knows…

    If you are who Jeremy has outted you as then you yourelf are gay.. and i hate to tell you but gay titles are even worse.. they have so many movies using the word redneck, cracker honky and others it is multiple pages…

    there are so many gay performers using casper in thier stage names it’s rediculous.. how in the hell do they even keep track of who is who???

    Clean the shit out of your own back yard joe knows before you bitch about mine.. but as long as the check clears right Joe ?????

    theirs your fucking arguement joe knows.. even your precious nikki benz has been in movie titles using the work “honky” I particularly like the title “trailer trash nurses” that the whites of white girls Stormy Daniels and jessica Drake starred in… http://www.iafd.com joe knows.. do you fuckin homework

    I rest my case people.. any other bullshit excuses i need to handle as to why racial discrimination iss allowed and or tolerated by these upstanding citizens ????/ lets have em because bullshit is easy to prove is bullshit…

    PS all the names mentioned in those movies does not mean they discriminate.. it means simply they were in those movies

  359. jeremiahsteele Says:

    personally, i think that song would gong out at the gong show, and get replaced by jean jean the dancing machine

  360. justafan Says:

    OMG ok trust me i know how you feel i married my physco
    hose beast (stacey from waynes world)

  361. jeremiahsteele Says:

    Ah, yes “Black Girls Wanna Cracker” by the late Mr. Richard Montford. I can’t believe they called me a cracker. Years of struggle and I’m still being referred to as this, in this day n’ age. Can’t we all just get it on?

  362. justinlong Says:

    sorry jeremy but the movie title was to classic for you not to get credit as being in it

  363. justafan Says:

    oh there we go my brother didnt the dude from gong show have ties to the cia?

  364. jeremiahsteele Says:

    i don’t know if that book by chuck berris was a joke or not, it started off with him talking about how his asshole itches, sounded like a symptom of candida

    EASE OFF ON THE BOOZE, JAF! yyoouu”ll ssttaarrtt ttoo sseeee ddoouubbllee

  365. justafan Says:

    i never read the book i just for some reason hit on him while googling one day and read a site

  366. justinlong Says:

    horny trailer park mothers

    trailer trash boys (gay)

    5 bros on whitey boy — joe knows that souds pretty racial

    bangin whitey — leah luv, hillary scott, savahnna stern and more

    bootylicious ; get whitey #33 that means there were 32 vol. before it joe knows.. 33 volumes of your white women laughing all the way to the fuckin bank

    what are other derogatory names for whites… i want to search more .. someone throw sum out thier.. I cant think of but like 4

  367. justafan Says:

    its just beer jjjjjjjjeremy duh iiii ccccannnn ssstilllll reeeadddd ccccorectlyyyy

  368. justinlong Says:

    Jeremy WTF when did richard Montford die??? dude I was just shooting for him last august.. was wonderin why i had’nt heard from him.. I always shot barely legal for hustler with him.. WTF when ?? How???

  369. justinlong Says:

    “2 wongs make a white” starring

    Actresses
    China Lee
    Connie Yung
    Kia [Facial]
    Shawn E.
    Stephanie Swift

    Actors
    Don Fernando
    Eric Edwards
    Rod Fontana
    Sean Rider

  370. justinlong Says:

    Always Lily White (1998)
    Distributor
    Adam & Eve
    Compilation
    No
    Director
    Bud LeeMinutes
    107
    All-Girl
    No
    All-Male
    No

    Actresses
    Anita Cannibal
    Asia Carrera
    Liza Harper [LezOnly]
    Phyllisha Anne [LezOnly]
    Raylene

    Actors
    Alec Metro
    Colt Steel
    Hershel Savage
    Ike Liksher
    Steve Hatcher

  371. justinlong Says:

    Attack of the Great White Ass (2009)
    Studio (Distributor)
    Evolution Erotica (Evolution Erotica)
    Compilation
    Yes
    Director
    No DataMinutes
    123
    All-Girl
    No
    All-Male
    No

    Actresses
    Austin O’Riley [Anal Facial Bald A2M]
    Eve Laurence [Facial Bald]
    Hollie Stevens [Facial Swallow]
    Jewel De’Nyle [Anal Facial DP A2M]
    Katja Kassin [Anal Facial A2M]

    Actors
    Julian
    Kurt Lockwood
    Mick Blue
    Steve Holmes
    Tristan Segal (as Tristan Seagal

  372. justafan Says:

    Blue-eyed Devil Whites Whites primarily with blue eyes are said to be the most evil. Especially since their skin is so pale, it looks scary to others as their blue eyes stare out at them.
    damn i guess im evil go figure

  373. justinlong Says:

    I Wanna Fuck a Mexican Chick (2010)
    Studio (Distributor)
    Acid Rain (Acid Rain)
    Compilation
    No
    Director
    No DataMinutes
    Unknown
    All-Girl
    No
    All-Male
    No

    Actresses
    Amina Amore
    Evie Delatosso
    Gabriella Romano
    Nadi Phuket
    Nikki Nievez

    Actors

  374. justinlong Says:

    whooaaaa here goes a hot topic

    rame.net : iafd : movie detail : sack the wetback
    Sack the Wetback (2005)
    Studio (Distributor)
    American Hardcore (American Hardcore)
    Compilation
    No
    Director
    David LordMinutes
    120
    All-Girl
    No
    All-Male
    No

    Actresses
    Chanel Chavez [Anal Facial DP]
    Luscious Lopez [Anal Facial DP]
    Nadia Styles [Anal Facial]
    Shy Love [Facial DP]
    Trixie Cas [DP]

    Actors
    Alex Sanders
    Arnold Schwartzenpecker
    Barry Scott
    Brian Surewood
    Jerry
    Richard Kline
    Sergio
    Talon
    Van Damage

  375. justinlong Says:

    rame.net : iafd : movie detail : barrio booty 1
    Barrio Booty 1 (2005)
    Also Known As
    Barrio Booty: Rice and Beans
    Distributor
    VCA
    Compilation
    No
    Director
    Tracie ShooterMinutes
    98
    All-Girl
    No
    All-Male
    No

    Actresses
    Eva Lopez [Facial IR]
    Havana Ginger [Facial]
    Ice La Fox [Facial IR]
    Marquetta Jewel [Facial IR]
    Victoria Allure [Facial IR]

    Actors
    Jr. King (as Junior King)
    Nat Turnher (as Nate Turnher)
    Wesley Pipes

  376. justafan Says:

    These titles bring up a good point. Is it considered IR when a white guy fucks a Latina?

  377. justinlong Says:

    rame.net : iafd : movie detail : barrio bangers
    Barrio Bangers (2007)
    Studio (Distributor)
    VCA (VCA)
    Compilation
    No
    Director
    Bonnie ClydeMinutes
    144
    All-Girl
    No
    All-Male
    No

    Actresses
    Lie Lani [LezOnly]
    Michelle Avanti [Anal Facial Bald]
    Paige Taylor [Facial Bald]
    Rebeca Linares [Anal Facial A2M]
    Renae Cruz [Facial]
    Sheila Marie (as Sheila) [Anal Facial A2M]
    Vanity Cristal (as Vanity Crystol) [LezOnly]

    Actors
    Andrew Andretti
    Dirty Harry
    Guy DiSilva
    Johnny Fender
    Marco Banderas
    Talon

  378. justinlong Says:

    rame.net : iafd : movie detail : down wit whitey
    Down Wit Whitey (2004)
    Also Known As
    Brian Pumper Iz Down Wit Whitey
    Distributor
    Red Light District
    Compilation
    No
    Director
    Brian PumperMinutes
    138
    All-Girl
    No
    All-Male
    No

    Actresses
    Ashley Haze [Anal Facial CumSwap A2M IR]
    Jordan Fleiss [IR]
    Noel Watson [IR]
    Stacy Thorn [Anal Facial CumSwap A2M IR]
    Vanilla Skye [Anal IR]
    Violet [IR]

    Actors
    Brian Pumper
    Tee Reel

  379. justinlong Says:

    rame.net : iafd : movie detail : whitey’s on the moon
    Whitey’s On The Moon (1996)
    Distributor
    Rosebud Productions
    Compilation
    No
    Director
    Rex BorskyMinutes
    75
    All-Girl
    No
    All-Male
    No

    Actresses
    Celine Devoux [Anal DP]
    Chelsea Blue
    Cherokee
    Sabrina
    Samantha St. James
    Tanya Foxx

    Actors
    Jake Steed
    Marc Wallice
    TT Boy
    Vince Vouyer

  380. justinlong Says:

    OK so I have made my point loud and clear .. all nationalities either shoot racially suggestive movies that dregrade thier own and other nationalities or they dont work.. no was is immune

    from the top contract stars to the lonely pions that get paid dick to risk thier lives..

  381. justafan Says:

    yeah but we got 19 more posts to get you to 400

  382. RomanT Says:

    @ Justin

    There are so many factors that go into this subject, but one thing I wanted to point out that you said yesterday on that other thread. We were talking about Derek and I think this says a lot.. You said ” shit I know for a fact he throw black girls to the wolves”

    You were talking about sending girls out on their first shoot to work with bbc… But think about that staement… throw them to the wolves.. And your talking about yourself and the other black talent…

    Give me your thoughts on this

  383. justinlong Says:

    Roman — i mean he sets them up with shoots that he would never dream of doing to a white or non black girl that was as pretty as that black girl was.. I mean wolves in a scenes that he treated her completely differnt then other girls he reps and it was solely because she was black… Maybe wolves was a bad analogy.. but I used it yes.. do you understand what I meant now

  384. RomanT Says:

    @ Justin

    I already knew what you meant.

    I wanted you to see what your words were, and if its percieved as ” going to the wolves” I would generally advise aginst that too. You know what I mean?

    Btw the girl I was in Dereks office with.. It was Megan Monroe… One of my best friends… And I’m pretty sure one of her first scenes was IR..

    But do you get what I’m saying… That perception has to change… You know?

  385. justafan Says:

    eh, ok now im drunk
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWjGVSz-F8M
    cheers

  386. RomanT Says:

    @ Justin

    I already knew what you meant.

    I wanted you to see what your words were, and if its percieved as ” going to the wolves” I would generally advise aginst that too. You know what I mean?

    Btw the girl I was in Dereks office with.. It was M. Monroe… One of my best friends… And I’m pretty sure one of her first scenes was IR..

    But do you get what I’m saying… That perception has to change… You know?

  387. RomanT Says:

    @ Justin

    Last comment on moderation so ill shorten it up.

    I already knew what you meant.. I wanted you to see your own words… I would probobly advise a lot of my talent from going to the wolves… Maybe a bad choice of words, but if its your perception.. And probobly many other peoples perception.. Than that’s a big issue… You know what I’m saying?

  388. justinlong Says:

    roman — i hear ya and thats why i’m speaking out.. it’s some bullshit aint it.. i just had a cat tell me he uses LA direct models and the stories he has heard.. I know i have ex’s that were repped there and at gold star.. i know first hand what goes on but then again everyone as far as talent does..

  389. RomanT Says:

    @ Justin

    I’m affraid you might be missing my point… From the view of any female talent being thrown to the wolves sounds like an intimidating thing to do.

    If you yourself describes working with the bbc performers as such, its obviously something all the talent agencies also tell new performers.
    ” Hey don’t do IR work.. I mean we could send you out to do it but its like throwing you to the wolves… And once you do that your chances of a contract with a big company will be slim to none.”

    What I’m trying to say is.. That kind of description of working in IR or even black on black titles needs to change.

    I don’t have any answers… Its just something I picked up from something you said.

    The whole issue is so complex…but the words ” change comes from within” rings through my mind… And I’m not talking about you per se… But the genre… It seems to me the IR genre dosnt want to be thought of by its own performers or anyone else as being the wolves… Right?

  390. justinlong Says:

    roman — I already agreed it could had been a better analogy..

    Dont knwo what else your looking for from me.. throwing her to the wolves — simply meant I have a big ass cock and he could had broke her into the game just as he does with hs white talent and that is not by sending her to work with one of the 10 biggest cocks in the industry for her very first scene..

    The roast is about the meat not the carrots.. you’re focusing here and have talked more about the terminology of wolf more then you have focused on his actions which is what it was all about.. I hear what your saying but first lets take a lok at what time I wrote that.. it would’nt suprise me if it was at some o’clock in the AM at night.. sorry i used wolves to describe it…

    Like i said I am not here to be a poster chld and politically correct.. I’m here to put out the facts and bring attention to the disriminative acts.. him sending a brand new black girl to her first shoot and it being with one of the biggest cocks in the industry is double standard for him as he would NEVER had sent aa white or non black girl to the same type of scene

    Is that better

  391. RanRegAL Says:

    I appreciate the consciousness of your article, and responsibility you’ve set out to take in your actions…it’s sad, but understandable. I myself am gonna try n’ spread the word about this article/blog/subject, hopefully create some dialog n’ possibly some awareness…n’ ultimately CHANGE! This is more interesting because most “Civilians” such as myself wouldn’t think that the Deep roots of Racism would transcend into something as shallow as the Adult Film industry…you would think “Action! Suck, Fuck, Nut. Cut! It’s A Wrap! Print, Press, Release! Repeat) LOL Sad that you can’t even be liberated in a supposed liberal profession and industry!

    Also, Great point you brought up about the AVN’s…I noticed that since they’ve been aired on Showtime…I can only IMAGINE how it was b4 that for non black talent being recognized AT ALL.

  392. RanRegAL Says:

    I meant for BLACK talent to be recognized at all…musta been even more of a rarity.

  393. Curly Razer Says:

    Heh. Semantics issue. This is why I try to be as precise as possible.

    If you knew she was new, and you felt that your big cock was an issue, couldn’t you have broken her in a little more gently? I mean I figure it’s like professional wrestling, you work hard to make it look as exciting as possible without hurting your partner.

    I would like to think that if there was a specific studio who was abusing the talent or spreading disease or whatnot, people wouldn’t just whisper about it to each other. I would like to think they’d put it out in the open on the internet so new talent could know who to avoid. Maybe send a little anonymous tip to whatever regulatory body is supposed to give a shit about workers.

    Of course, I realize you all have a lot to lose if you’re outed as the source of any complaint that ends up costing the producers money. Also because of all the fucking drama in the industry, there’s no way to tell what gossip is legit and what gossip is just people getting even for real or perceived slights.

    Hmmm.

    What can be done?

  394. RomanT Says:

    @ Justin

    Like I’ve said before, I’m not totally disagreeing with you… But I’ve also tried to play devils advocate and point out several OTHER reasons why this issue is at hand.

    I’m not here to defend anyone in particular or the industry as a whole… And I certainly don’t have the one answer solution. But I do see some of the problem being on your side of the fence as well. ( I’m not saying you in particular)

  395. RickMadrid Says:

    Hey!! what about a new article now? How about an insight on the Industry that we all work in and what companies are having a bad time with this “economy” and the piracy, down sales,lay off employess, call a dept and you get a answering machine and maybe a call back within that week? sounds familair? So how about a new article now on which companies are going to close up and which ones might sustain.

  396. justinlong Says:

    Roman,

    I hear ya and don’t take what you say personal, but i think everyone has to agree the defending racial discrimination is a pretty hard stance.

    you know you cant blame an elphant for doing tricks at the circus because he wants to get fed.

    you cant say “well its the elphants own fault, he should have not done the tricks in the first place and then he would’nt be in the position he is in”

    Blacks in the industry do NOTHING that other people in the industry do, say, or act any differrnt then some others of other races and colors do in the industry, yet black males are singled out to be racially discriminated against.

    There are no wwhite females that say they refuse to work with mexicans, or hungarians, or asians, or brazialians, or any other nationalities EXCEPT black males.. and then the same women that say that work with black females..

    there is nothing anyway can say that justifies that type of action.

    Non-IR girls feel priviliged and superior to blacks and that is why they even believe they have the right to say NO Blacks..

    It’s no differnt then back in the day when blacks were’nt felt to be equals and good enough to drink from the same water fountain as white people or sit in the front of the bus with white people..

    There is simply no excuse for this in this industry or in this country for that matter. That is why it’s so easy for me to disprove all the opposing comments that have been posted here.. I have addressed them all with solid fact and even links … look at the argument I destroyed last night..

    it’s easy to prove bullshit is bullsshit cause you can smell it froma mile away. The only real excuse these girls have for not doing IR is “it’s my body and it’s my choice”

    My reply is then “go get a job where you dont feel the need to discriminate then” no one is forcing them into the sex industry… this is a work place regardless what anyone says… and there can NOT be exceptions for certain types of employment that get to set aside discrimination laws.. where does it go next if we do????

    All of a suddden maybe show girls say they wont share a dressing room with blacks because they are naked and that is sexual in nature.. how about messages.. should a message therapist be able to say she wont give a message to a black person..

    How about gynocologist??? should they beable to say they refuse to touch a black persons genitalia??? for that matter any doctor.. should a doctor be able to turn me away because he refuses to stick his finger in my ass to check for prostate cancer or whatever because I’m black

    NOOOOOOO

    so you cant just say “well this is porn an exception is OK” no an exception is not ok and derails the entire system of checks and balances to keep racial discrimination out of our society..

    as I stated before “if a girl cant work here and not racially discriminate, then get a differnt job where she doesn’t feel the need to discriminate” maybe she can be a book keeper or whatever..

    The fact is is that racial discrimination out in the open is not allowed in any industry, and people have been sued and lost a many of times regarding this.. it’s the law… porn is probably the last industry where workers are straight up allowed to say “no I will not work with black people, I refuse” and they still have a fuckin job

    even in motion picture the top stars work accross from black people .. true the studios definitely hire more whites then others but at least they are equally discriminative across the board.. they dont just single out blacks..

    As far as talent working with taleent though, you dont see no shit about nicole kidman refusing to work with a black man.. is this sex and sexual relations in porn??? yes???? is that an excuse for girls to thwart the law and bach and say “no” NOOO . it’s simply means that maybe that girl should find a differnt job…

    a true porn star is someone that has sex on film to create a product that people consume.. a porn star is suppose to be an expert in sex and be the person that isn’t the consumer.. the consumer has limits.. true porn stars should’nt be so picky and petty that they are like the girls now days … oh his cock is too big, oh he is black, blah blah blah…

    I am a true porn star .. black, white , asian, skinny, fat, young, old, midgets, gang bangs, dp’s, bukakes, ect….. I have done em all..

    it’s absurd that the girls that get the most recognition have done the least.. The average gonzo chick does more scene a year then jenna jameson ever could have done.. but where is the average girls credit and notiraty???

    jenna jameson according to iafd.com has done 149 dvd/vhs movies in her career and she started in like supposedly came in in 93′.. byron long came in in 92′ and has done 1229 dvd/vhs but yet jenna has was inducted into the hall of fame years ago in almost all awards shows, but yet byron barely got inducted just this last year for AVN only .. still no XRCO, foxxx, night moves, ect….

    So besides spreading her legs and having shit handed to her on a silver platter because she was a skinny ass blong with a body, please tell me what jenna did that would deserve such a lopsided distortion of praise for acomplishment.. tell em if byron was blond haired blue eyed and had a pussy, and had the same entrance date and # of movies as he does, do you think things would have been different..???

    In fact if byron was white?? do you think things would had been differnt??? lets see

    ter patrick came in in 99′ and was inducted in 09′ according to iafd she has done 105 titles (that sounds worng)

    The list goes on and on..

    Lets not even talk about blacck women and the lack of awards and credit they have gotten

    India came in in 97′ according to iafd did more movies then Tera patrick and many other girls

    and yet she and many many other black women have never gotten hall of fame

    it makes no damn since vanessa Blue, india diana devoe and the list goes on and on..

    None of these girls have hall of fame (damn regular awards) and they all came in earlier and did more then alot of there white counter parts that have been inductedd for years..

    Even the black inducted make no since.. byron cam in well before lex and marcus, but yet both got there hall of fames before Byron.. and the funnier part is Lex got his before marcus and byron by a few years and yet he came in well after both of them. to this day mr. marcus and byron on not in the XRCO hall of fame and yet they both cam in before jada fire who was inducted this year..

    not to mention all the non-black performers that are and have been inducted into XRCO halll of fame and have been for years like jenna jameson and her gal pal contract girls…

    man this shit is so lopped sided when you look at these list and do the research that is looses it’s laughability and become a huge fuckin insult.. fuck AVN fuck XRCO, fuck FOXXX and Night Moves (most black had never even heard of night moves.. my ex had been going for years and I had never even heard about it..

    i told her to look around while she was there cause i was bitchin about no black being there or even knowing about it and so she did, and when she came home shee agreed there were basically NO black people their and NO awards went to black people

    XRCO this year two whole awards went to blacck folk 11 to jada for hall of fame (which is’nt even an award) and 1 to marie luv i think and guess for what “most unsung female”

    These people are so fuckin blinded by white it’s fuckin sick…

    this is the shit that blacks deal with in the insudtry.. no recognition, no appreciation, no promotion, no equal pay or equal rights, no equal work, and we get targeted by every bitch that has tats and is down for her race… or we get target by every bitch thats lookin to make more money in the future by using us a fuckin pawns..

    and then people ask and comment about me being mad..

    shiut we talked about all these awards andd those were just hall of fame issues.. fuck it would be ten or twelve post to deal with regular awards and the bullshit that incompasses that..

  397. justinlong Says:

    Rick how about you write that article.. and have it posted.. in fact thier are many more articles on LIB then this one.. or is it you just dont want anymore discussion on this one for some reason.. tell me why didn’t you post that comment on shelley lubbens article or the article about the world cup, or the articl about lupe fuentes..????

    why does this discussion need to stop .. more then one thread is on this page there homie

  398. Curly Razer Says:

    I don’t think the whole Jenna Jameson/Byron Long comparison is apples-to-apples Justin.

    Yes, as people, they’re both equal and deserving of the same rights and privileges.

    But as a woman Jenna is perceived as more important to the production of the movie than any man she works with, ostensibly because consumers pay more attention to the woman than the men in a porno and because it’s easier to get men to work in the industry than women.

    Now, granting that everything I just said is an oversimplification of reality and has the potential to be labeled self-fulfilling prophecy, I think your examples would come across as more useful if you compared male stars to male stars and female stars to female stars.

    Gender shouldn’t matter any more than race should, except that porn is an industry which requires specific genders to fill specific roles. As long as disproportionately more men than women want to work in porn, studios will always be paying the female talent better.

    It would be the same situation if hospitals (for some crazy sci-fi medical reason) needed as many male nurses as female nurses in order to function. They would pay male nurses extremely well, at least in the short term, until the job market caught up to demand. If there was a cultural taboo against males becoming nurses (which, arguably, may exist in the real world,) then the ratio of male to female nurses might never catch up to 1:1, resulting in a medical industry that perpetually over-values the contributions of male nurses.

    That hypothetical situation I just described is really stupid, and I feel dumber for having said it. :D The point is, everyone knows women get paid more than men in porn. You should compare black males to white males or black females to white females. I don’t think you’ll have any trouble proving your point, especially if you measure success by accolades rather than money.

    Just keep it apples-to-apples, okay?

  399. RomanT Says:

    @ Justin

    As always you make some good points.. But there are arguments that can be made opposing those too.

    Jenna speaks for itself.. She made a brand all her own… Was she lucky that she looked the way she does?? Of course… Have there been better looking woman in the adult industry than her? Probobly… Timing is everything and Jenna was the perfect storm… And she maxxed that shit out.. End of story. Her accomplishments are deserving of recognition.. Even if she would have fucked it up without the right people around her. Because at the end of the day she did it. The biggest name porn star EVER..with only about 150 credits.. Impressive isn’t it?

    But it always goes back to WHO made her that way? The consumers. Tera patrick.. The consumers…

    Byron long… Certainly paid his dues and is well accomplished.. And had he been a gay performer probobly would have strolled into their hall of fame a long time ago.. But on the straight side its the tits and ass that move the pieces out the door.

    I don’t think I’ve given you any bullshit to discredit.. We certainly see some aspects a little differently, but I DON’T discount your point of view as being valid. I personally believe that there are many things that contribute to the overall problem, but with that being said I firmly believe that its more than just saying ” fuck it all about race” because there are so many dynamics overall.

    At the end of the day the consumers decide who become the privileged performers.. In response to that consumer demand the production companies promote these individuals.

    You know what email me your number at frenchlocc@yahoo.com and ill tell you what I’m doing to make some change. Its not something I want to publish at this time plus writing all these post is very time consuming.

  400. justinlong Says:

    i think you have some valid points as well.. but when a girl comes in the industry and movie one hasn’t hit the shelves and she already has a contract or is headlining fetures, then the argument that the consumer demands is not valid because at that point the consumer doesn’t even know the girl exist..

  401. justinlong Says:

    beyond that, lets quit pretending that black people dont watch or buy porn.. even if it is in less quantity, people like Byron are more watched by blacks then jenna ever will be … so when you imply that she deserved the hall of fame first, then it can only be construded that it is because she has reached a very white audiance..

    so is that the trick???? if you are marketable to whites then you actually get recognition???? but if you only reach blacks because the companies only promote you to blacks and refuse to put you in front of whites citing that whites dont want you (which many fans and people have stated that that a lie) then you can work just as hard if not harder and your own industry looks over you because you dont reach the 40 year old white male?

    if that is the truth then how does rocco seffredi and other non white male stars get so many awards????

    Hmm maybe because the companies put them in front of white people and in the fore front???

    and why is that???/ because contract female stars refuse to fuck black men????

  402. RomanT Says:

    @ Justin

    That’s where the expertise/luck or whatever you want to call it that the steve h & steve o of this world have. You can’t argue with the success of their companies and their choices for contact girls to get them there. Personally.. I’m not with the majority who think lupe fuentes is hot… But with only a limited number of titles she has blown up a little because of the fans… And wicked will capitalize on that. I’m not a huge fan, but I’m sure they made a good signing.

  403. RomanT Says:

    @ Justin

    Well again its back to the econimics.. If whites buy more than blacks.. Yeah that’s the way it is. That’s why I mentioned before that some of this lies in ” getting more in the black consumers pocket”

    Jenna made an atomic bomb size crater in this biz… And you know it was more than just her fuck flicks. Love her or hate her… She handled her business. That’s why she’s a hall of famer.

    Byron… ( For all the dues he’s paid and accomplishments/contributions he’s made) may never be able to drop a bomb that big. Maybe it is because he’s not a white girl with fake tits… But that’s what sells.

  404. justinlong Says:

    Roman you’re not getting it I know blonde and fake tits sell, but as long as brothers are restricted from working with those girls then we are stuck not being able to drop bobms and make craters .. get it now??? it’s trickle down economics..

    Lets not forget steve hersch made bank offf black talent.. but this is how he repays them for what they have done for him. he allows girls to say NO blacks and has not issue one with it.. And please Jenna can’t even run her own life.. her ex husband created and built what she has now through divorce…

    thats how the story goes I hear from people who know anyway.. so as far as I’m concearned she didn’t create shit. again it was handed to her and she just stood in front of a camera and looked cute..

    all this is irrealivant anyway as the majority of girls that SAY NO to IR are not contract girls.. they are girls that say NO to IR until they don’t have money and then say OK I WILL LET black men fuck me now and expect open arms from the black community..

  405. justinlong Says:

    hahhahahahahaha LOLOLOLOL>

    Read the first 4 sentences in the aids healthcare article…

    *********** OSHA’s BOARD determines that porn stars are (drum role please ) EMPLOYEE’S **********

    Under california state labor law and employer nor an employee can discriminate against race, or color among other things

    Fact —— every company that hires a girl that refuses to work with a Black or other nationality talent is in VIOLATION of CALIFORNIA STATE LAW

  406. jeremiahsteele Says:

    I don’t know if OSHA cares about that, Justin. However, if OSHA wants to cite a guy’s left nut for being in violation of his right nut, I’m sure they could come up with something.

    If I don’t get hired for an interracial gangbang with a white chick, can I call that “discrimination”?

  407. justinlong Says:

    LOLOL Jeremy,

    NO but if you can find a girl that refuses to fuck white guys in the industry, that actually gets hired then you might have some luck… but last time I checked… uhhhhh over time you might find 1 or 2 girls that have refused to work with non black guys LOLOL so I think you are SOL

  408. RomanT Says:

    Like I said..Jenna might have fucked it up by herself.. We will never know. It became what it was. But remember he also dated Chasey… And when he was with Chasey she was that it girl… It didn’t work that way for chasey and him.. so I have to give jenna a little credit.. Lightning hasn’t stuck again for him either…. Anyway fuck it

    I get what your saying… But I think there’s more to it than just pointing out in the crowd and saying racist. The white male over 35 accounts for a majority of the sales in this industry. In my humble opinion… WE.. As niche markets or minority groups have to level that playing field on our own…WE have to start building brands that our respective communities will support… WE have to find ways to get them to spend money to support our stars like the whites do… Just like the Steves did. Because if we don’t do that… WE give them the power… They don’t take it from us.

    Outside of that.. I know that on a day to day basis you have people that won’t work with you based on race… And I can understand all the feelings that must come with that. I can see your side but also have some reservations about telling someone they can’t have sexual preferences.

    You and I are cool… But I think we are officially finger cuffed on this one.

  409. justinlong Says:

    Roman — racist and discriminative are two seperate things.. I am not calling every girl that doesn’t do IR a racist.. shit with my ex I have had her friends in OUR house that refuse and still refuse to do IR..

    I have in the past conversed and been friendly with girls that refuse to do IR.. i found that counter productive though and quit very quickly as it makes those girls think that it’s OK

    Porn consumers watch what producers put out.. if the only porn in the world was black on white.. every one would still watch porn… some would bitch but they would still buy it, because at the end of the day only bi men gay men and women buy porn to look at the guy.. by the way thats a butt load of people..

    a strong amount of gay men buy and watch straight porn.. they like the guys and can’t get the guys in gay movies because they are straight (well not always true enough) guys…

    I saw a statistic back in like 07′ that said over 60% of the content coming out of SFV was IR.. so please tell me if white men are the biggest buyer of porn, then why is 60% of the content IR?

    I have yet to see actual numbers on what real demographics are (in fact I am going to do some research obver the next few days)

    Like the census.. I don’t think statistics are even a fair representation.. do you think the 18 year old black guy from the hood is being questioned in the survey??? how are they even getting to him??? porn site doesn’t ask race for a membership… adult book stores dont keep track of the race or age of a consumer.. older white males are more stable then young people of any nationality

    Older people tend to fill out surveys and companies that do surveys know that and they go to them to do there job of surveying.. I would question the stats and question them by how they conducted the survey

    Do they do it at convenntions.???? thru mail??? how??? aint no company ever just called my phone or sent me mail asking what type of porn I buy… get where I’m going???

    Maybe we have all been fed this bullshit that white males in their fourties are the major buyers because becuase it’s seems logical but in all acctuality it’s not the case.. maybe the movies sell more juyst because it’s jesse jane versus savahnna ster.. and maybe because the studios have put money into marketing jesse jane so men see her more and she is branded more

    maybe because of that marketing and branding and money thats put into her she sales more movies.. but maybe just maybe if that same branding marketting and money was put into savahnna stern and the movie had some black male talent in it then it would sell just as well or better????

    Like i said if you have a brand new girl and she is signed to a contract before her movies ever hit the shelf or web then how can you say the public demanded it??? you cant !!!! because the public aint even seen her yet.. the studios demanded it.. and they did it before another studio signed her.. So who is to say another girl wouldn’t had been a bigger hit with the consumer..???

    Look at girls and their sites.. I bet you sara jay gets more hits daily then any contract girls site.. sara fucks prodominately black males.. same thing with raven black.. we have so many nationalities in this country and to to listen to stats that you have no clue how they were really collected is silly..

    I would bet the girl that gets the most hits on her site in the world does IR

    ( i say girl meaning private site and that becauase a brazzer or bang bros has girls that people want to see that wont work with black males so they join the site the girls on) also because they are the two most marketed and wel known sites

    I will research stats of porn consumers and also research the “how’ the stats were gathered in each report.. One thing I can guarantee.. surveyors are not going door to door in the hood asking what porn people watch.. nor are random households geting random calls about porn.. the options of where they get these stats is actually very limited if you thinkk about it..

    Maybe white older guys are just more prone to write a company or go to a convention because of means or location… maybe younger people dont give a shit and consume porn but aint waistin there time to write someone or are’nt so sprung because they are young and get pussy that looks and sometimes ends up in porn more so then older white guys

    maybe brothas prefer to just jack off and then say fuck it.. maybe older white guys go to adult book stores more then blacks, asians, or latinos, for whatever reason.. one would think mormons would be the last place to look for a porn star as well but we have some and one is one of the biggest porn stars in the world (a girl)

    get where I’m going???? maybe it’s just the girl marketing promotion and branding that sells the movies not the matter of weather it is a black or white guy fucking the girl…

  410. justinlong Says:

    jeremy,

    Did anyone ever find out how Richard Montfort passed???? He was a nice guy.. I had shot with him many many times.. in fact I had shot with him with in a couples months prior to his death, but I had never heard about his passing and was out of LA by august and then gone thru January 10′ ..

    Wow, you saying something the other night was the first I had heard about it… that blows.. he was a cool cat.. R.I.P. Richard…

  411. RomanT Says:

    @ Justin

    Like I said.. We are deadlocked…

    The best I can really muster at this point is.. producers will make what they can sell a lot of.

    Lol I’m sort of the opposite of Monica Foster.. I’m much more expressive and make much better arguments when I’m able to verbalize my thoughts. I’m not much of a writer.

    I firmly believe that a big part of the change your looking for lies in the development of the minority markets. You can look up statistic online all day or listen to the lip service that YOUR FANS will give you ( which obviously is skewed) But I have been out there on the streets, I’ve been to the adult video stores, I’ve been to the big truck stops in ontario.. I’ve asked men of all races what their preferences were.

    The blacks I’ve spoken to… Maybe a cross section of about 100 men.. And mostly truckers from all over the states.. I would estimate 85% of them wanted black on black porn only… With the other 15% being a mixed bag of IR,asian,latin,lesbian and even some beastiality,.. True story man. But that 85% is a big number. That’s why I told you the other day… Somethings not right with the product being put out.

    I don’t even remember what were talking about…lol and I write all this from my blackberry, so if you want to debate my after the calosha meeting ( ill be there to look at shelleys tits) I will bring a crew and we can get this on film. Lol

    I’m losing it… Email me.. Send your number and we can hash this out on the phone a little…then you can post this shit for both of us.

    I told you I’m launching a prod co… I’ve been working on it for over a year… I had a professional business plan written that took mountains of research…part of that research was getting out there and talking to real guys of all races..

    I haven’t made a movie yet… But I was able to get a major distro deal for cable and everything based on all the shit I’ve done for this… I’m not a name in this industry and I don’t have any big companies helping me… Ive had to be on point with everything I’ve done to this point.

    So the numbers I just gave you.. You can take that shit to the bank as being very accurate.

  412. justinlong Says:

    I’ll mail you roman —-

    did you see shelleys reply to me???? guess she finally decided to acknowldge me.. thanks shelley .. guess i have to wait tell tuesday or longer for the answers huh…

  413. justinlong Says:

    Curly I agree and the truth is is those numbers as far as male to male are skewed but harder as obviously less males are in the hall of fame then females.. but I did point out some females and the differnce…

    males are not inducted every single year so.. and the list I found didn’t have dates inducted by alot of people male or female..

    hall of fame really should have nothing to do with success honestly in my opinion.. if someone came in in 93′ and is still in in 10′ and has done just as many movies or more then someone that came in in 95′ and is still in in 10′ then the person that came in first should be inducted first.

    But we are not seeing that… india came in years before tera patrick and according to iafd has done more movie if i remeber correctly then tera, but tera has been inducted in 09′ but i dont see india anywhere on the list

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_members_of_the_AVN_Hall_of_Fame

    the same goes for most awards XRCO ect…

    1. Erik Everhard
    aka: Eric Everhard
    Years Active: 1998-2010
    Titles: 980

    inducted in XRCO hall of fame in 10′
    __________________________________________________
    1. Byron Long
    aka: Byron Monroe, Byron, Brian Long
    Years Active: 1992-2010
    Titles: 1229

    Still not inducted in the hall of fame for XRCO

    yet marcus and lex are ___ good for marcus and lex they do deserve it but look at the facts

    1. Lexington Steele
    aka: Black Bastard, Lex Steele, Lexington, Lexinton Steel, Lex
    Years Active: 1994-2010
    Titles: 791

    induscted in 09′

    ______________________________

    1. Mr. Marcus
    aka: Marcus, Mister Marcus
    Years Active: 1994-2010
    Titles: 1468

    inducted in 07′

    ________________________________

    1. Evan Stone
    aka: Evan
    Years Active: 1997-2010
    Titles: 1148

    in ducted in 10′

    so how did all these guys come in after Byron but he’s not inducted?????

    how is it he has done more movies then them all (except marcus) and Evan came in a half a decade after byron has lees movies according to iafd.com and is inducted but byron is not…

    hall of fame is a popularity contest is all that can be construded.. So if you are black and not a chosen one by the big studio’s, then is that the deal ??? you get no recognition??? you don’t get what people that have been in less time and have done less work get as far as recognition for your hard work and deication?

    What this tells every black person is.. is if you are not “lucky” enough to be chosen by the big studios to work for them, then you get nothing….

    starting to see the problem and where all the antamocity come from from the black people.. if people want to call me the angry balck man then fine.. they are starting to do the same with Obama too.. but if the shoe was on the other foot then you have to ask yourself, wuld people be calling them the angry white man????

    Make no mistake .. i have personally heard white irls just as pissed and ranting and raving and yelling because they dont get the shots that the jennas and others get and they are often prettier and better performers that are’nt as picky as she was and others are..

    This is not just a black issue but blacks are very much targeted from the get by being refused work because of thier skin color..

    thats the point.. it starts with agents then sudios then girls then prromotion and branding then trickles down to awards and work and money..

    All that is being coordinned off as off limits to 90% of the balck people in the industry.. major features use 6 black guys and 3 consistantly.. (meaning usually not to be confused with often) the black females even worse they use 2 primarily maybe rotating sometimes with another 2.. and low and behold those are the black people that account for 95% of any awards awarded to blacks

    It’s so obvious, if it was funny you would have to laugh.. but to the ones on the recieving end of this bullshit it aint funny .. it’s laughable for about the first 2 or 3 years then it’s starts to really piss you off because you are out their working your ass off ( which means you’re at risk more because younare worrking more)and often more then the ones that are sitting around working half as much and they are making twice as much and getting all the recognition…

    The real sad part is, half of the people that are working twice as hard, are often better talent (all around) then the talent that get the awards.. it’s absurd.. but it all comes down to what movies are up for awards?? what company produced it??? who is the talent (girl) or who has the talent worked with (for guys).. how much money did the sttudio spend in advertising (in the case of avn’s)… if you are working for studios that produce and are constantly in features then you WILL get awards..

    if you are a gonzo actor because you have never got a shot in major features, then you probably wont and never will get an award.. even though you might be a bad ass talent…

    Ask any talent that will shoot from the hip and they will tell you the same… I’m not making shit up for a cause.. i got better things to do then fight for a lie..

    what i’m spittin is real shit that you learn after being in the game for a long period.. people would think they could have this game figured out instantly but their are so many damn politics and facets, no one has it figured out even close to instantly.. it takes years to learn some of the inside bullshit that cracks off in this bitch..

    Thats real talk

  414. Curly Razer Says:

    The chink in the armor’s always gonna be consumers.

    If you can give them something vivid can’t, you win.

  415. jeremiahsteele Says:

    My understanding Justin is that Richard passed over the hard way, through heart attack. He was a nice guy. At least he escaped before the industry died.

    Well, this thread is on it’s way to 500. It’ll take 5 minutes just to load all the comments.

  416. justinlong Says:

    Jeremy,

    hit me up and let me know when and where the hearing is weill you…

    Yeah that sucks about Richard.. I think he went well before his time..,

  417. jeremiahsteele Says:

    Cal/OSHA has secheduled the first advisory meeting for Tuesday, June 29, 2010, at the Cal/Trans Building at 100 S. Main Street, Room 1.040 A, Los Angles, from 10 a.m. to 3:30 p.m.

    That means mañana!

  418. justinlong Says:

    Very cool .. thanks Jeremy.. shitty time but cool thanks for the info..

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  420. Belle Says:

    Justin! I’ve always wanted to have sex with you ever since I first saw you in a porn!!! Lol. *Daydreams*
    …I want to know so much about the porn star life.

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