Interview with Wankus
interview by DUC
Friday, February 7, 2003

I searched the Internet for "Wayne C. Lewis," the real name of KSexradio.com program director Wankus. I found out that he is one of the voices for the TV SHOW Transformers on FOX. Wankus plays the part of PROWL, the police car

I found this interview. (http://www.transfandom.net/matrix/interviews/wankus.shtml)

Wankus: "I'm also a member of the board of directors on a Los Angeles Little League, and I coach 7 & 8 year olds in the fall and the Spring. I don't have any kids, I do it because I love kids. It's actually kewl because I have 10 kids, but at the end of the day I get to give them back to their parents!"

Q. What is the story behind your name?

Wankus: "When I did my radio show in Los Angeles on B-100, KIBB, I said some wise crack on the air and I had a partner who responded by trying to call me a Wanker and a Dufis at the same time. She slipped and called me a Wankus. The listeners reacted with dozens of e-mails and phone calls and told me that I should keep the name. Since I am quite odd and wacky, at least to most mainstream people, I decided to go with it. One thing's for sure, you never forget it. It's just hard at times when calling corporate offices because the receptionist frequently thinks I'm making a prank call!"

I've been hearing about KSEXradio.com and Wankus for a couple of years. KSEX has sent out many press releases including this one on December 16, 2002:

Dave Pounder Flounders

By: Wayne C Lewis/Brian Holt (BURBANK, CA) --

If you don't have one already, self-proclaimed, male talent, Dave Pounder, has some snappy business cards. And, if you're an adorable young woman in the business, as he hands you one of the many cards you'll receive from him, you can count on him saying, "If you ever need male talent, I'm available."

Good self promotion is everything in the entertainment biz, so one would have to applaud his efforts. But claiming to be male talent on Wankus' watch is a dangerous statement. Thursday night on the Wanker Show, Wankus and CoHo, Katie Morgan, got a surprise visit from Pounder who "just happened to be in the area."

Wankus invited Pounder on the KSEXradio couch and gave him a couple of standard interview questions. Following the basics, Wankus began to grill Pounder about a somewhat industry known difficulty he allegedly has. "A lot of people see you talking to me, " Wankus stated, "then when you walk away from me they say that you're the guy who can't get wood on set."

Pounder denied the allegations and claimed to have had some difficulties early on in his career, but it was only on 'one, maybe two sets.' Wankus then reminded him that right there on the Wanker Show, a few months back, he couldn't get wood when Violet Blue sucked his dick for fifteen minutes. "Well, you were making jokes and sh-t, no one can get wood to that," Pounder responded.

So a challenge was then offered. "Any all-pro male talent can get an erection on demand," Wankus stated, "If you brought Ron Jeremy, Mr. Marcus or Sean Michaels in here, and told them to get wood, they could." Pounder, listening uncomfortably, wondering where this was going, basically agreed with the statements made.

"So, since you claim to be 'male talent'," Wankus continued, "whip that little thing out and I'll give you :60 seconds to get a hard on." Pounder accepted the challenge but asked for the help of the lovely Katie Morgan. After Morgan declined, probably considering she was in one of his previous scenes where he failed to reach erection and was finally asked to leave the set, Pounder requested the aid of a skin mag.

A recent issue of Club was brought in and the timer started at 7:26pm. Dave stripped down completely naked, as members of the chat room pointed out that he resembled Richie Cunningham from Happy Days, and began frantically tugging his tool.

Wankus let the minute go long, trying to give the poor guy some slack as he rapidly changed pages in his magazine. After close to two minutes, Wankus looked at Pounder's limp log and shouted, "times up!"

"It looks like the head of your Dick is taking a nap on your index finger Dave," Wankus claimed. "I'm not finished yet," Dave said, "I'm going to keep going until I get it hard."

Five minutes later, nothing. Ten minutes, twenty minutes, through commercial breaks and other show features, nothing. Pounder was determined to prove that he could get wood, yet whenever he claimed to have it, it fell as limp as a weeping willow tree.

Finally at 42 minutes in, Dave got a 3 second rock and Wankus called the contest complete. "You were a good sport Dave, " Wankus stated, "sorry we were so hard on ya....I mean....ridged with you....I mean....well you know what I mean." Dave Pounder's performance should be a lesson to all the guys in the adult industry fan base who think it's easy to be a porn star. Take note: Having sex with a hot porn babe would be awesome, but consider the lights, male tech crew and distractions around you, not to mention the pressure of having to perform while be directed. It's not as easy as one may think.

7:26 - Contest Began
7:33 - Still Limpy
7:49 - Weeping Willow
8:08 - Wow! A brief Woody

I found another interview with Wankus
( http://www.adultfilmfan.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=54 )

Ron Sullivan aka Henri Pachard profiles
( http://www.yesportal.com/news.cfm/248 )

I speak by phone with Wankus 2/6/03.

Luke: "How did you get into the adult industry?"

Wankus (Wayne C. Lewis), 34 years of age: "About two years ago, [the late] Mike Rick, who used to be a leader at KSEXradio.com... I used to coach his son in little league. He knew I had a radio background. He said, 'I'm thinking about starting a naughty Internet radio station. Can you make it sound like a real radio station?' I said, 'Absolutely, but I'm retired. I don't want to have anything to do with radio.' I had so many issues with real radio. 'I'd only help you out if you stayed out of my face and let me do my own thing. And I don't have to answer to anybody.' And he said, 'It's yours. I'll concentrate on finding ways to make us some money and you make it sound like a real radio station.' It worked out.

"KSEXradio.com had been going for six months before we bought it. We went from a smalltime crappy [operation]... It was run out of San Diego by a bunch of people who were just excited that they could curse on the air. They didn't have any format. They'd just turn the microphones on and swear because they could. We took it over. We turned it into a formatted good-sounding station but the industry didn't give us any credibility."

I don't know anybody who received immediate credibility when they entered porn. From accomplished journalists like myself (joke!) and David Hoffman to accomplished radio men like Wankus (Wayne C. Lewis), none of us got any respect in porn until we proved ourself. It takes a while before porners pay attention to you.

I remember hearing about KSEXradio.com in the summer and fall of 2000. I kept getting their press releases but I ignored them because I generally ignore press releases. When I came back to the industry in the fall of 2002, I heard more about KSEXradio.com and Wankus, particularly on generossextreme.com. But the station and the man behind it, Wankus, did not become fully real to me until this afternoon when I spent over an hour on the phone with him.

I've listened to his show on the internet. It is professional but way too raunchy for my taste.

Adella at Digital Playground says: "What you refer to as raunchy is a fair summation of our differing tastes. While there is room for all sorts of fetishes in the marketplace, it is apparent that Digital Playground does not share the same philosophies about the sexual revolution of women. Any hint of degradation, while legal, opposes our quest to empower women and contribute to the demise of shame in association with sexual pleasure."

For about a year, I had my own Internet radio show (with co hosts James DiGiorgio and Lee Noga). At our peak, we had about 200 listeners to our live show (and thousands more either listened to recorded excerpts or read the transcripts on l-keford.com). Some of the shows are still archived on l-keford.com. They weren't nearly as slick as what Wankus and company are doing. He says he gets several thousand listeners a night.

Wankus: "The [porn industry] looked at us as a dinky little garage company. We were doing good things. We started out with a great lineup. We had Jacklyn Lick and a few real radio personalities on air in San Diego. We had good guests, including Tera Patrick (from Digital Playground). That was a big deal for us back then. It was going well but we still couldn't get any attention."

Adella: "We had done everything to support KSEX’s endeavors and this is why we were shocked when KSEX attacked us in a public statement."

Wankus: "Barry Hulagon, a buddy of someone at the station decided to start his own PR company. Barry worked for an advertising agency. He started www.topprotalent.com (TPT) in early 2002 and started out sending out press releases. He was a better writer than us. TPT was a company started to try to get attention for KSEXradio.com. He was frustrated that we weren't getting any coverage.

"I remember writing personal letters to people at AVN asking, 'Is it me?

Is there something wrong? Can you tell me what to do to fix my press releases so you will actually print them? You put Tera on your home page (AVN.com). I have the same guests she has if not better and they do more wild stuff on my show. They would always write back, 'You're an online thing. We're AVN. We promote film.' I'd say, 'Well, Tera is also online with the Tera Show.' It became a battle."

Adella: "How To Win Friends and Influence People."

Wankus: "When Barry sent press releases out, everyone was printing them. When you talk about yourself, nobody cares. When someone else talks about you, all of a sudden, you're [given] credit. It was beautiful. Then Barry got too busy and gave me the site. No money exchanged. I took it over in the fall of 2002. I made it more newsy.

"I'm learning the Internet. I'm putting stuff on and enjoying myself writing news stories and trying to give different coverage than the standard adult coverage out there. I have two writers [Brian Holt and Marianne O'Hearn] that like to get their name out there and have some fun. I'll either feed them information or they will watch the shows."

Luke: "They're good writers."

Wankus: "Everything is edited through me. It's always going to have a similar flow. I made sure that everybody had the same target when they were writing stories. We feature mostly KSEXradio.com stuff but that could change. We try to make things different. When you go to every adult news site, you see almost identical stories. You see press releases slapped up there. We try to give fun different angles.

"It's not our intent to be gossipy or hurtful. We just want to report it as we see it. It's more of a fun hobby (TPT) that happens to be working well for KSEX. Even if you just do something as simple as go to Alexa.com and check out the chart, every time one of them surges, the other one surges with it."

KSEXradio.com and www.topprotalent.com both have respectable and rising Alexa rankings in the 30-40,000 range.

Luke: "What's your background in radio?"

Wankus: "I've done it all. I'm in the Museum of Television and Radio for the work I did on KRTH 101 with Robert W. Morgan (1995). I wrote a parody song that was played over and over again on KRTH about Mr Rock & Roll and his 20th Anniversary on K-Earth.

"I wrote the song DOLE MAN for KRTH and sent it to the DOLE for PRESIDENT organization only to never receive credit but hear it played in every city he visited.

"I once interviewed Mike Tyson and asked him if he had an eye injury and if so was it from all the effects of MACE during sex. That was reported in the USA Today and the New York Post.

"I had a nationally syndicated show on Saturday night called "Radio Girls," featuring a bunch of cute girls on the air and I was the token guy they used to bash. It was a show I developed and produced. I did news for about five months for The Howard Stern Show in Los Angeles on FM 97.1. in late 1995.

"Howard takes these long commercial breaks. So they told me that they wanted me to do the news during these breaks with punchlines - in-your-face edgy stuff and add some humorous touches. It worked. By having that kind of entertainment in the middle of the commercial breaks we were able to keep the audience.

"In 1996, I left to do an R&B morning show "The Breakfast Jam" in Los Angeles on B100 [KIBB], which is now The Beat. I had my own show for about a year until the station got bought. The new owners fired everybody and changed the format.

"I toured with The Platters for a year as a keyboard player. I was their first white keyboard player and they called me Ivory Platter.

"While I was on the road, my agent was frantically trying to find me more radio work. We were having so much trouble finding somebody to take a chance on me. After having a morning show in LA, I thought for sure somebody would grab me but it was tough times. Like any other business, you have to keep pumping.

"Then I took a job offer in New Orleans on B97, WEZB (top 40 music). The money was so inconsistent playing with The Platters. One month I'd make $10,000 and the next month I'd make $500. When I got there, I took the station from 24th place to second place within four months.

"I hated the city. It was too old school South. We think it's a cosmopolitan city but it's really not. It's still full of racism. People would come up to me because I was white and say, 'Did you see that nigger?' 'Dude, who are you talking to? I don't talk that way to people.'"

Adella: "And calling a beautiful girl a whore is different?"

Wankus: "I didn't plan on re-signing my contract. I ended up getting fired by Britney Spears. This was when she first hit, when [her first hit song] "Hit me baby one more time" came out. I had her on the show. And I said to her, 'I have to be honest with you. You look pretty ugly without makeup on.' She played it off nicely but needless to say she was livid. She's a New Orleans resident, so that made it an even bigger scandal.

"The record company called my boss and said, 'If he doesn't go on the air with an apology, we're going to cut all your promotions.' For a radio station, that's big. They get comped tickets. It's modern day payola. Stuff they can get away with without calling it cash payouts. My boss told me to apologize. I said, 'I'll apologize that she looks ugly without makeup but I'm not going to apologize for saying it.' He said, 'If you don't do it, you're fired.' I said, 'See ya.' So they had to pay me for the last month of my contract and I returned to Los Angeles.

"I decided that radio was way too corporately influenced. There's no creativity any more. You can't do what you want. You have to do everything to appease the district director of programming, the sponsor... I thought we were out to please the fan but modern day radio is not about the fan. That's when Mike Rick came to me about KSEX."

Luke: "Who owns KSEX now?"

Wankus: "Mike's brother Chris, who lives in Florida, was partnered with him in everything."

Luke: "How much live programming do you have a week?"

Wankus: "We're live from 6PM to midnight. We're launching five new shows in the next couple of months, including one live from the Bunny Ranch. When we're not live, we replay the shows in audio and video. I'm on live Monday through Friday from 7-9PM. We experimented with some weekend programming but realized that the audience is too inconsistent.

"On the hottest times, we have 4-6,000 listeners an hour."

Luke: "Who are your competitors?" Wankus: "We don't really have any. We consider that everybody in the adult industry is swimming in the same pool.

It's always been our policy to share. We link to everybody."

Adella: "And slam everybody too."

Wankus: "We have two different members areas. There's one join that's only $24 a year. You get the refreshing webcam every six seconds. For about $20 a month, you get the streaming webcam and a full members area of galleries and video clips and archived shows."

Luke: "How have you liked getting into the adult industry?"

Wankus: "I love it. The only thing that kills me is trying to get people [to be responsible]. Everyone knows that adult stars have flakey tendencies. But radio is not like a set. I can't just tell the crew, 'Hold on. She'll be here soon.' We have times we do things. It happens at least once a week that somebody's guest flakes. Some people act like, 'What's the big deal? We'll just reschedule for next week.' They don't realize that that time I have slotted for them, I have nothing planned.

"We look like idiots, [the flakes] don't. We've been promoting them all week. Just last week I was saying, 'Vanessa Del Rio. She's hot. She's going to be here live on the air.' She never showed up. When I come back, what am I supposed to do? 'Hey guys, I'm sorry. She didn't show up.' That's why we started the KSEX flake list.

"If you go to our home page and check out our flake list, you'll see that a lot of names have been taken off it. Word got around that they were on our flake list. Nobody wants to be on a flake list. Our mentality was, if you can't keep your obligation, or at least call, then you go on the flake list. Often I call guests who don't show and they don't call me back. Then forget it, I'm going to let everyone know you are a flake. Directors and producers need to know that you might not be there for your responsibilities.

"Jenna Haze was on our flake list but is not now because she came in and made good on her interview. She called me up and said, 'I think that is really rude that you would do that to me.' Ok, so it wasn't rude that you would tell me you were coming, and I would promote, and then you wouldn't show or call?

"When they come in, everyone's treated like royalty. We pump them up. I don't care what they look like. I don't care what my own personal opinion is. That person is the most beautiful hottest star out there when they are on my show unless they're a bitch, like Devon [of Digital Playground]. Don't get me started."

Adella: "Hey DUC have you ever witnessed Devon being a bitch?"

DUC to Adella: "No."

DUC to Wankus: "What happened last November with Devon?"

Wankus: "Ahh, nothing. She came in with attitude. I don't do attitude well. There are two kinds of people who get bad interviews on my show - those who come in with attitude, or those who try to change the way I do my show. I'm a nice guy, but as soon as you f--- with me, I'm going to win this argument."

Adella: "She was a few minutes late because there was a detour on the freeway exit and she was greeted with attitude."

Wankus: "Our mission is to provide the fans with a place where they can see all their favorite stars and offer them different niches. We have a shows on bondage, sex advice, trailer trash, erotic stories... We give the stars a forum to perform for their fans. A lot of the [porn news sites] are for the industry.

"That's what we do differently from the other Internet broadcasts clinging around... They rely on good guests to make a good show. We try to make compelling shows to make a good show, and the guests are the icing on the cake.

"We're training a lot of porn stars to be DJs. That's tough. You can't just turn on a microphone and talk. It requires getting a rhythm going and relating to the audience."

Luke: "Why did you guys cancel the Tera Patrick Show?"

Wankus: "We made a drastic mistake of not testing the technical side of things. We just assumed it would work. The quality of the Tera Show, the DP Tonight, is not that great. The sound and video and backdrop is about six steps below KSEX quality. And KSEX quality I still make fun of. We piece that place together with Radio Shack Band-Aids but it sounds clean. When we played the Tera Show on the air, it was such a drastic difference. They kept having dropouts. The stream would quit.

"We panicked. We called them up and said, 'Hey, we have to fix this.' We went through all our concerns. They wouldn't really call back. They just said, 'Yeah, thanks for your concerns.' They treated us like another affiliate, not realizing that we were bringing them four times their audience."

Adella: "Oh DUC, can't you see the silliness in this? I think Wankus has just lost credibility on all points. If KSEX brought us four times the audience we would have jumped through fire. KSEX had absolutely zero effect on our traffic. DP Tonight feeds thousands of streams. If ten more people complained we’d still be doing fabulous."

Wankus: "I canceled one of my night [shows] to get that to happen. Then I got a lot of fans complaining they couldn't see the show. 'There was a black background. Everyone was wearing black. She's got black hair. It keeps dropping out and we keep losing video.' We went through technical hell with it. We have nothing bad to say about them. They just didn't want to make any adjustments.

"I offered them the KSEX studios for free. We have a three-camera shoot, not a one-camera shoot with a microphone and a ceiling. They said no thanks."

Adella: "Other than offering them our feed, we really weren’t interested in aligning ourselves. They wanted us to use their studio from the get go, when it became apparent that we weren’t going to they cut us off with a defaming release."

Wankus: "Adella and I sat down one day for about four hours and talked about improving the quality of the show and I went through how a radio show works and how to fix a format to be compelling. She acted interested and said she would try to implement some of these things but they never really happened.

"Because they had a superstar, their presentation was take it or leave it. We decided to leave it even though it would've been a homerun for us to have a big name like Tera on our station."

Adella: "That is an inaccurate assumption."

Luke: "Now they won't allow their girls on your station?"

Wankus: "I don't know about won't allow, but they were upset with the Devon interview. They didn't like the way she was handled. I didn't like the way she came in. I gave her a good interview but if you watch the tape, you can tell there's hostility in the room. You can tell we're just pissed at each other. I tried to make it professional. I turned it on. I pumped her up."

Luke: "Were you rude to her?"

Wankus: "I was myself to her. I don't know if you want to call that rude. I call it playing the act, being the crazy on-air personality that I am. She and Director Nic Andrews were rude to me from the start. They'd gotten lost. They were late. Late kills me. When they got there, instead of apologizing for being late, they blamed us for the directions. Attitude."

Adella: "Wankus is NOT Howard Stern – my girls don’t get frisked and don’t do couch calls. They don’t have to get felt up to get a spot on syndicated radio much less KSEX. It’s degrading and clashes with our philosophies."

Wankus: "By the time they got on the couch, everybody had this aura of anger. The first question I asked her was the question I ask everyone, 'So when did you decide you wanted to be a freaky ho?' She was pissed. After the show, she called Digital Playground: 'Asshole called me a ho.'

"Nobody had been offended by that question until Devon. She took it personally. If you watch the whole interview, it finished fun. She was on my lap. I sang her a good-bye song. She was laughing. It turned out to be a good interview but neither of us enjoyed each other's company.

"Samantha and Adella [from Digital Playground] were so specific about how to handle their girls and how their girls are adult actresses. Are you going to get me in trouble?"

Luke: "No, go ahead."

Wankus: "I said to Adella and Sam, I'm going to do my show. This is what I do. I can't change my show because of a guest. If you're going on the Stern Show, you can't tell him, 'Don't do this.' I said to them honestly, 'If you think it's going to be a problem, don't bring them in.'

"Tera Patrick's interview was a week earlier. They had me so nervous about the things I was going to ask her that I almost canceled it. She turned out to be one of the best guests. She was frisky, fun, crude. She had a great personality. But they made her sound like a princess and it turned out to be Devon who was the princess.

"I went up to Devon and I frisked her. I frisk all my guests in case they're terrorists. As soon as I put my hands on her tits, she freaked. And nobody freaks. They're porn stars. All I'm doing is grabbing their breasts. Now I tell people in advance. It was fun surprising them but now I tell everyone up front. 'The only contact you will have on the show is that I will frisk you.' Tera didn't care. She was on my lap, tits out, having a great time."

Luke: "How many porn girls have you frisked?"

Adella: "Classy operation, eh?"

Wankus: "Hundreds. We also do an anthrax taste test. We take their tits out and me and my coho taste their nipples and make sure there's no anthrax on them. I have a different cohost each night. Monday is Calli Cox. Tuesday is Alana Evans. Wednesday used to be Star E. Knight but now she's missing in action. I thought Haven might fill that spot but after this incident with Jill Kelly, that probably won't happen. Thursday is Katie Morgan. Friday is Daisy [the live-in girlfriend of Wankus]."

Wankus hosts KSEX's highest rated show, followed by Temptation at 10PM PST and Jason Sechrest's Friday show.

Wankus: "[The hosts of Temptation] are cousins and they do [have sex with each other]. It's our trailer trash presentation. They don't have sex on the air but that's their whole shtick. Their show is about nothing.

"I was nervous about putting Jason's show on the air. We have a 90% male audience. They claim to be straight. They want to see tits. I was scared to have a bisexual-themed show. I told him that he had to start every show with a chick. Put her on a couch with her tits out. Have a cutesy interview with her so that when you start talking about gay stuff, it puts the audience at ease.

"When people first found out Jason was going to be on the station, they all wrote emails making fun of him. Now I find them listening to the show. He does a fantastic job prepping the show. He's got a great presentation, great energy. I'm happy to have him on the station even though we're now playing press wars."

Luke: "Which porn star has been best suited to radio?"

Wankus: "Samantha Sterlyng. She was my first partner five nights a week. She was better than any mainstream personality. She's witty, smart, hysterical. She has this attitude that works on the air. She can be rude and at the same time you love her. Jacklyn Lick, in the beginning stages of KSEX, definitely has the skills to do mainstream radio if she wants to. Her presentation, voice, everything. I don't think she has the confidence to push her way in but I used to tell her to send her demo tapes out."

Luke: "Why did Jacklyn leave?"

Wankus: "Her last three months with us, she was traveling a lot. When she was home, she wouldn't put in the time to make her show pop. Some people come to us with the attitude, hey, you don't pay me enough to do any extra stuff. My answer to that is, 'It's your name on the marquee.' We kept begging her to come up with new features and prep better and not get so political and get more sexual... We made handshake agreement that she would go do her thing and if she ever wanted to come back, she had a place at KSEX.

"Heather Lyn was my second partner. She was doing five nights a week. She got burned out. She just disappeared. There were rumors. She didn't call us. We finally caught up with her again months later. We offered her a spot one night a week. She came one night, did a great job, and then we never saw her again.

"She lives with her boyfriend, so she doesn't do guys anymore.

"You deal a lot with people burning out. You don't get mad at them for that. You don't announce it to the trades.

"We have Flexx and Sierra who do an Ebony Nights Show (black focus). Sierra has the gift of the gab. She comes in with great diction and great conviction and just goes. Flexx has that 'hood approach."

Luke: "How do your friends from real radio react to your job with KSEX?"

Wankus: "When I first took the job, I had to convince them all that I was not becoming a porn star. Even though a couple of blow jobs on the side wouldn't hurt. They all said, 'Wow, that's cool. I want a job with you. Once you guys start making big money and can offer me some salary, I'll come work with you.'

"Now that it's getting more popular and they're reading the press releases and seeing some of the things that go on. It used to be a bad night if someone didn't flash their tits. Now it's a bad night if we didn't all get it on. The girls come in and they want to get it on. You'd think they'd just come in for a radio interview but they get frisky and fun and it makes for entertainment.

"Now I'm finding the DJs in the mainstream world are staying away from me, not emailing me as much anymore, not writing back, not calling back... I wonder if it's just me or if they're starting to think, 'Hey, this guy is getting too heavy into the adult side.'

"I don't know if you remember before you did any adult, the kind of stuff that doesn't phase us now, when we were in the that mindset, it was shocking."

Luke:++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ "Does it trouble you losing those connections?"

Wankus: "Not really. I haven't lost any connections. I'm kinda used to it. I'm used to seeing people change with certain things, even family and friends that are not radio-related don't like what I do. Some of them don't care. My Mom sends me emails once in a while, 'Dear Wayne: You were not born for porn. Love, Mom.' Even though I'm not in the porn films, she doesn't like it. She still loves me. It's all good."

Luke: "How does it affect you dating chicks?"

Wankus: "The good news is that I live with my Friday coho Daisy (who did sales for many porno companies). We've been together since I started at KSEX. She's got a great open-minded personality where we don't swing or do anything crazy, but if, once in a while, we get into a situation where something goes on, she's totally cool with it so long as she's in the mix. She's got a great personality and she's not afraid to whip out her tits."

Luke: "Have you ever had sex on your show?"

Wankus: "One time we promoted it big. It was really scary. We made it a pay-per-view special. Wankus was going to be a porn star. It was me, Daisy, Samantha Sterlyng and Kenya. After this one night, I have nothing but the ultimate respect for male talent. I had my boss on one camera and my webmaster on the other. Random people coming into the studio and I couldn't get it up. That's the first and last time I had sex on my show. It's not the kind of footage I want out there."

Luke: "Tell me about your worst interviews?"

Wankus: "Olivia Saint, Elegant Angel girl, came in and did a great interview. We all laughed. She was late. Just before we went on, I said something to her about being late. We did the show and had a great time. She ended up sleeping with my intern on the show. For some reason, she went back to Elegant Angel and said it was the worst interview she ever did."

Luke: "Tell me about your fight with Max Hardcore?"

Wankus: "A few months ago, Max Hardcore and I got into a fist fight. It was Flashman's idea that we should fight in a ring. We said we'd do it. Flashman never came through.

"One night, Max came in and said, 'You're lucky that fight never came through. I would've kicked your ass.' He was toasted. Totally hammered. I told him any day. He said, 'Right now.' I said, 'Let's step outside.' I thought he was joking. We were in front of a bunch of people. I figured he was trying to show off. We go outside and he tackles me. I'm still laughing. Needless to say, I had him wrapped around and face down in the dirt in a minute. I think I even made him say, 'Momma.' Then I said, 'All right, Max. That's enough. Let's go back inside. That's enough.'

"Then we get into the lounge and he starts talking sh-- again. Then he gets up and throws a punch. It was like The Matrix, the slow motion scene. That was Max at full speed. I think I threw him on top of Catalina by mistake. She started crying and getting upset.

"Finally, he says it again. I brought him in the studio. We have two minutes of a silly testosterone battle. I knocked him down a bunch of times. Real punches were thrown, he just never landed any. We press released it but nobody printed it. Everybody wrote me back, 'Hey dude, we don't print that stupid stunt sh--.'"

Luke: "Max didn't carry any hard feelings?"

Wankus: "No. We like him. He said to me later, 'Hey man, if it is going to get us promotion, go for it. Who cares? It's all press.'"

Luke: "Where do you get your background in fighting?"

Wankus: "I don't have a background in fighting. I grew up in the East Coast. It's a matter of a background in attitude."

Luke: "Is that the first time you've had to use your fists on the show?"

Wankus: "Yes. There are times I get nervous. One night Heather Lyn was my cohost. She brought in some friends and they were the scariest dudes you'd ever want to see. But I make fun of everybody. If you come into the studio, you are fair game. This one guy looked like Uncle Fester so I kept calling him Uncle Fester. It turns out later he was one of the leaders of the Hells Angels.

"The next day, when I found out, I asked Heather, 'Was your friend pissed at me?" She said no. Thank God.

"But there are times with "spous-agers." A spous-ager is the boyfriend of talent who think they can do it better than the industry can. They are a combination of spouse and manager. There are times when I do a frisk that they are moving in their chair. They are about ready to get up and take care of business. Thank God nothing major has happened.

"It's not the goal of my show to piss people off. The goal of my show is to have fun and give everybody good promo."

Luke: "How did you decide to be so hard-hitting with TopProTalent.com? Most of the industry press is mild."

Wankus: "I got frustrated with going to industry events [and find them written up falsely] as the party of the year. I felt that was a lie. It's one thing to be respectful, which I still try to do but there's got to be truth in what you do. I talked last night about the whole Jill Kelly thing and how Jenna was pissed... If I had announced a big KSEX party, and it's a disaster, it should be printed that way. If my cohost Star E. Knight doesn't show up on press night, which she didn't, you should report that. Maybe she'll read it and realize she should show up to work because this will get around.

"Every journalist in the world slants the news. I try to be fair. If you get too truthful, nobody will talk to you anymore. I don't want to get to the point where people hate me."

Adella: "Off to a great start..."

Wankus: "Most of the adult news sites aren't updated enough. I found with Topprotalent.com that if I take a day or two off, my numbers go down. If you can't update every day, you shouldn't be doing it. If I take a night off KSEX, you see the numbers go down. People like it fresh."

Luke: "Where do you get your background in journalism?"

Wankus: "From my high school paper, which I got kicked off of."

Luke: "Why were you kicked off?"

Wankus: "Because I found there was a thing called an editor. I hated that I would pour my heart out and the parts I thought were most important were clipped out. I quit because my editor cut one of my pieces about Frank Zappa, who I loved. She cut out the most compelling stuff. I'm a musician. I write music. I'm an actor. Topprotalent.com is just a hobby. I'm not trying to present myself as some top journalist."

Luke: "Did you go to college?"

Wankus: "I went to Santa Barbara City College for specialty courses and dry cleaning college in New York. When I was 19, my Dad owned a chain of dry cleaning stores in Santa Barbara. I grew up in New Jersey. My Dad wanted me to come out and take over the business. I was just getting serious [with a woman]. I figured I was going to marry her. I figured it was the right thing to do so I went to the Neighborhood Cleaners Association college courses. Everybody thinks it's funny but dry cleaning is difficult. It's all chemistry and hardcore learning of a trade. I went out to Santa Barbara, took over the business, hated it, and sold my shares back and got right back in entertainment."

Luke: "Do you want to get back into regular radio?"

Wankus: "Only if I can own my own show. This way I call the shots. Many of the shows you hear on regular radio are purchased shows. That's FM 97.1's entire weekend programming. I'd love to do a TV show. My ultimate dream is to take over for David Letterman."

Luke: "Does your Dad listen?"

Wankus: "Not really. He checks the site once in a while. He gets a kick out of it. His thing is that I'm making money. My Dad's whole focus in life is how much money everybody makes."

Luke: "He doesn't send you emails, 'Wayne, you were not born for porn. Love, Dad.'?"

Wankus: "No. He'll tell me, 'What was that ugly wench doing on your lap?'"

Adella: "Degradation of women must run in the family."

Our conversation transitions to lessons learned from time spent in the porno trenches. "I learned going from mainstream to adult that porn stars are not just objects of sexual desire. There are so many awesome great people who do porn. If you come in to my show at KSEX, you'll see some girl do something crazy. As soon as the camera is off, she's super professional. 'Thank you so much. Have me back again soon.' You don't see that when you're a fan. You just see these wild and crazy girls who love sex and will f--- anybody. But that's not the case. It's a business. Porn people have the same problems as everyone else. How can you get mad at somebody for getting paid to have sex?"

Luke: "Do you ever get depressed about how screwed up most of these porn people are?"

Wankus: "I wouldn't say most of them are screwed up. I think everyone has a breaking point. One day they wake up and look in the mirror and say, 'Ohmigod, I suck cock for a living.' That would happen to me. If I have a one-night stand, I come home and look in the mirror and think, 'You're a scum bag. What were you thinking?' If you have multiple partners, guys you've just met on a shoot, and it's all good if you enjoy it, but there's a breaking point where you look at yourself in the mirror and say, 'What am I doing?' And then they retire. Then they come back for the easy money.

"Bill Margold has a theory that girls shouldn't be allowed to get started until they're 21. When you're 18, you don't know anything. One movie shoot at age 18 lasts for 20-30 years. We're still looking at galleries from the seventies."

Luke: "Do you ever get haunted by the fact that the people who do this will forever be socially ostracized? That this will ruin their lives?"

Wankus: "Well, it's funny but technically I am too. I choose not to look at it that way. We are all real people. We all work hard. Because your mentality isn't open enough to accept the kind of work we do, you're not changing my core. Most of the people who criticize us are the same people buying this s---."

DUC thinks that porners can say all they want that they don't care what others think, but the reality is that you can't be happy when you are socially ostracized.

Luke: "People may use drugs, but they don't invite the drug dealer home for a meal."

Wankus: "I don't want to compare porn stars to drug dealers. I look at drugs as an illegal bad act.

"I threw a tennis ball at a rabbit when I was 14 and injured him. I went home crying. I am one of those guys who's tough on the outside but goes home feeling like s---. People say, 'Wankus doesn't give a s--- about anything and meanwhile I'm the guy crying to League of Our Own on TV.'

"The KSEX approach is to provide a happy service to the community. People throw stones. Often I will respond in private. We don't dislike anybody. There's nobody in the business we want to see fail. We want to be the Disney of the Adult world."

Adella: "Hence a press release that defames another company in the headline and a studio exec that requires touching the girls if they want to be on the show..."

Wankus: "I love Gene Ross to death but he's known as one of those stone-throwers. People would say, 'Oh, f---, I'm on Gene Ross,' because they knew it was something bad. I don't want www.topprotalent.com to be like that. The point of our Jill Kelly story wasn't to start s--- with Jill Kelly. We like Jill Kelly."

Luke: "How is Gene Ross doing?"

Wankus: "I haven't talked to him in six weeks, when he was already gone [from Extreme]. He wouldn't give me too many details on the situation. I offered him a writing gig with www.topprotalent.com. He said he'd get back to me. I hear he's traveling and going through a lot. During his last few months online, we started bonding. I got to know a different side of him. When I first started reading his site, I thought he was an a------. Then, when he started printing stuff about KSEX, which I was reading with a fine tooth comb to make sure we weren't getting blasted, I realized, 'He's just doing his thing. He's one of those guys who accepts just about anything that somebody sends in.' There's a place for that.

"That's not our place. That's not a KSEX or Topprotalent.com thing. I got a few emails about Jenna writing me that blast her and it would be wonderful to put up on a Gene Ross or L-ke F-rd-style site. We're not doing gossip and fan emails. We're doing the news."

Luke: "Does KSEX pay its own way?"

Wankus: "We have a content company running us, Cyber-synergism. We have a members section. That pays the DJs. We're dabbling in audio advertising online. We just signed a deal with a cell phone company in Canada that has satellite radio on the cell phones. They're listing KSEX on all these cell phones as an upsell. We'd love to have a KSEX TV show and DVDs. We have hours of footage of porn stars coming in and doing crazy things."

Wankus says the only person on staff at KSEX who he has fooled around with is Alana Evans.

Wankus: "I'd love to get Aurora Snow as a regular cohost. She's witty, sharp."

Our conversation moved to the importance of publicity. "You have people who don't realize the importance of putting yourself out there. I'll often have guests write to me, 'I had a good time on your show and the traffic to my website spiked but I didn't get any signups to my site.' That's not my fault. All the big pros know the importance of keeping your name alive. Ron Jeremy called in the other night. Bridgett Kerkove is in once a month. Amber Lynn was coming in all the time."

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Wankus writes:

Adella's first mistake. She confuses Shtick for real life personality and feelings...jokingly asking a porn star on a sex talk radio show "how long has she known she was a freaky HO?" does not send our troops to Iraq, calm down. If we follow your philosophy in life, perhaps we should hate Eddie Murphy, Steve Martin and scattered others stereotype jokesters. (glad she hasn't heard my shows with gay references...bet she'd find those funny though)

The girls in the adult industry, I'm guessing about 90%, call themselves whores in real life

Adella is desperately trying to prove that she's looking out for the degradation of women and doesn't support those who do act that way towards women....this, of course, is why you can frequently find Max Hardcore and Catalina, Bridgette and Skeeter Kerkove, and nearly the majority of their guests on the couch of the DP Show. These people are some of the nicest people in the business, and they do films of the most violent, twisted and degrading acts towards women you can find. Promoting it, endorses it. (FYI, Max calls girls whores and means it.) Stop trying to prove they are Saints. They are nice people, they are beautiful woman...and they suck cock for a living. That's like sticking up for a basketball player because god forbid someone called him a "Jock." We're having fun, you're bitter about something. Loosen up and enjoy life.

Adella says 'Wankus lost his credibility when he said KSEX brought DP 4x their audience size because DP got no extra surge in traffic from the event.' HELLO?! Why would YOU get a surge in traffic, the KSEX audience, watched it on KSEX. Our server got the hits. You would only register ONE more listener that evening.....US. Part of the reason you didn't realize we had technical issues is because you didn't even know how the techinical side of things from your office was being handled with us. Geez...if you're gonna blast me, can you find one point that can't be countered with point of facts?

Speaking of an over exaggerating Adella, we never blasted DP, in fact read the press release here: http://www.ksexradio.com/press/pressarticles/terraoff.asp It kisses their asses, something I hate doing, but tried to give them corporate respect. Not calling back when an affiliate is having tech issues and then never questioning what went wrong when you lost a client is not good business. Perhaps there is more to the Tera story.

I just think it's funny how D U C covered the last 10 years of my life and Adella needed to chime in for all of it. I've known her 5 days of my life. Wish it was 4. Pleasure doing business with you, best of luck with your new radio host, who btw, was nearly :30 minutes late, not a couple.

The Wanker Show is heard weeknights from 7-9pm (PST) on KSEXradio.com....it's free to listen to me call girls Ho's! Latah!