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"What My Life Was Really Like." by Nena Cherry

March 27, 1998

This page was made by me as a means to survive some of the damage placed on me by strangers and those whom I trusted in an industry that is dark and uncaring atleast when it came to showing support during a HIV crisis. Least of all compassionate when it came to humanity and dealing with the situation in a civilized way.

I look back and still the pain is there, I guess it may never completely go away. No one ever said life was fair, I sure have a great deal of experience in regards to this old saying.

My husband and my family are my support, they know completely of the pain I have suffered as a consequence of the lifestyle I chose to live , and they have been there for me, and helped me regain a life that is so much better, than any video/film or photo shoot , could possibly ever offer. I have learned that those things are not that important to me, and frankly what I have in my life now is what I have always searched for.

I have LOVE. We all need love. Some choose not to acknowledge this fact, and act as if they are so tough, and dont need anybody. This seems very foolish to me, but I have seen it, and I know where it leads to. Infact I was like that once. I believe that something had to occur in one`s past to shut out love from your heart and to display such unhumanity and negativity. What ever the case may be , HOPE and LOVE are what it takes to survive in this time.

I could go way back in my life, and tell you all the things that took place that lead up to the events that have occured to my previous lifestyle, but I will save that for my book, OR maybe another site, at another time. I will go back as far as 1995 , the year I became involved in pornography.

I had a manager who had been getting me work out on the dance circuit, his name was Charlie Fry. I had done no movies prior to feature dancing, but posed as a " adult film star", so to speak. I did quite well. Charlie booked alot of gigs for me, one day he called me and asked me if I wanted to fly out to Los Angeles and do a movie for John T. Bone. I had no idea who John T. Bone was, but that I found out very soon. Me, Jasmine St. Claire and Monique Amore all met up with John and he got us going on our first movies, " Blondes ", and " Hellfire ".

What an experience... Need less to say I could only bare to do the two movies for John T. Bone and part ways from him and my so called manager Charlie Fry. I have my reasons and they need not to be discussed at this time. Maybe later.

I finally met up with Jim South at World Modeling and he began to get me some work. One of the key people that kept me interested in working full time and not going back to my hometown Houston, Texas was Ron Jeremy. I recall one night I was talking to him on the phone and told him I wanted to return home and he hurried over to my hotel and persuaded me to stay. We became buddies and to this day, I consider him to be my friend.

Ron and I did not only work together but we hung out and did things together, Ron has a heart and loves to have fun, he smiles and has a great sense of humor, he is not in the least bit bitter or negative towards anyone. That is one of the things I really like about him. Ron never talked bad about people.

I only did a few girl/girl movies, I primarily did all bo/girl movies, gangbangs, and anal. Its not that I dont like to do girl/girl movies, its just that from a few times that I did participate, I did not agree with the personal hygiene of the women. If you know what I mean...

I did not really have any difficulty in getting along with other women on the sets. I guess the fact that I didnt want to have sex with them, maybe they felt indifferent towards me. I did get along with the guys, very well. All except for T.T Boy. I tried to be warm to him, but my attempts were in vain.

I did alot of anal, and it seemed that was the only way to get work, which sucked. It seems that once you lock yourself into that situation that is all they expect from you. Many times I worked on a set , I literally felt drained from too much anal, but I proceeded to give the camera my best. I really enjoyed working and felt I gave 100%.

After a while I guess you can over expose your self, and I did. Then it is harder to get work. I did got through a burn out phase, for one I had worked myself to death, and had a series of events take place . Such as my roomate moving me out while I was out of town, so I came home and had to relocate very fast. I did, and that was a nightmare. I wont get into at this time, but soon I was rescued from a V.P. at a Toyota dealership..

He ( Richard ) and I hit it off , it seemed really nice in the beginning. I stayed at his house for a few weeks and began to get work and then moved out to my own place. He and I continued to date . All seemed well, and the out of the blue we were over.

At the time I thought this was the worst thing that could have went wrong in my life! I began to binge drink, cry, and just become a complete mess over the breakup. Soon I was doing drugs and just slipping away. I could not get over this man! No matter what his memories were dark shadows cast upon me where ever I went.

Knowing I was addicted to drugs I had to change my life, I began another relationship with another man. His name is Dale. We had been friends for a while and I moved in with him and we became engaged very suddenly. Basically, I was trying to replace the V.P. " Richard " . So this relationship was doomed from the start. I may get into more details at a later time, but to move on Dale and I had a huge fight one night at the condo we had moved into, Dale was arrested for domestic violence and I filed a restraining order and he was kicked out of his condo until the hearing. He was arrested a second time for stalkng me , and then I became a little afraid that he would get pissed off and try to hurt me, so I decided to leave the condo, and start my life over.

I moved into a hotel and started to get work, all seemed to be going well, and it seemed that in no time at all , that I would be on my feet again and have my own place. My close support at the time was Ron Jeremy, Jonathan Morgan, Alex Sanders, and Dave Hardman. I could always talk to the guys and they would help me out and get me work. Soon disaster was to fall in my path again. I went to get my monthly HIV test and it came back indeterminate, I about lost it!!

Then I tested again and the same thing happened, by now Im losing it! I was tested again , on a DNA test to HIV and a RNA to HIV and they came back negative. This gave me some hope. You cannot possibly imagine what it felt like to see your whole world come tumbling down right in front of your face. It was quite scary. All I had worked for to become a porn star, in the last 18 months was coming to a screeching halt! I felt so alone and , I felt like I was dying. I kept asking myself, "Why me, all I wanted to do was be the best I could be and do my job, ?" It made no sense at the time. I thought to myself , what am I going to do. It was not as if I already had problems and was trying to overcome them, but NOW I really had bigger problems than I ever thought possible.

Soon word was out ( I give special credits to the ones on the internet , who claimed that they had their legitimate sources and even claimed they knew me...Brandy, Mike South and Luke F-rd. ) . I was the one to confront the Free Speech Coalition and they put me in another hotel and had me tested again, with the DNA for HIV test, and it too came back negative.

Dale and I talked about what was going on and he offered me support , regardless of our differences, which was very nice. This was a difficult time for me and Im sure for him too. I stayed in close contact with all my former partners and had alot of support there for me when I was in Los Angeles, but I had decided I needed to go home to Texas and be with family and friends. Dale offered me money to start my life over , so I took it, and left.

I had no idea, what I was going to do, I was very lost , and had to face life through different eyes. I felt alot of pain. Luckily, I had a friend who took me in his home and provided me with a computer, which at the time, I did not even know how to turn it on, much less type a sentence. I really had no clue! I have to say I have came a long way in a very short time.

I decided to finally face lifes hardships and challenges for the first time in a positive a meaningful direction. I kept my spirits up, and seeked knowledge in every area of my life, my health, my relationships, my spirituality, and so forth. I began to see improvements everywhere.

I finally had found a new career on the internet, I had a website developed and began to explore the the vast world wide web. I found it to be a amazing and unlimited resource. I also found it to be a weapon that alot of people take advantage of. The internet has hurt me in many ways. I was constantly being attacked and made out to look like someone who was not a part of my character at all. You have no idea , but will learn that this abuse took plave all during a 14 month period. I did not know how to cope initially, but I was forced to learn very fast.

It seemd that I was being advertised on websites and newsgroups about my HIV status, and things that were totally untrue. The information that was being made avaliable to whom ever should see it was FALSE and it was done by people who DONT KNOW ME , at all! I will have all the post here for you to see on this site and will tell you what it means to me, and I can point out in almost every single post what is lies and mean , spiteful remarks made about me to do intentional damage.

Since alot of the newgroups wont post some of my responses, I have decided to post my own here and submit this page for the whole world to see. It seems okay for "others" to post lies and non sense about me, but If I try to set the record straight heaven forbid!! This is my site and I can post the truth here once and for all.

I was astounded at the lack of compassion or humanity that was offered to me. After all I had gave and what I was going through , you would think that people would stick together and try to be supportive and lend some comfort due to the HIV scare that I was going through . That was not happening here as you will see, infact it was quite the opposite.

I had three main attackers. One is Brandy Alexandre who used to be a porn star in the eighties, and one is Mike South , who shoots amateur videos, and is based out of Atlanta , Georgia. Not affiliated with the industry as he " claims " to be. Infact most people out in Los Angeles dont know or even like him. He is about as well known as some of the girls he shoots in his wimpy little series. He gloats and brags about his AVN awards as if it were some miraculous achievment in life. Its really funny how he goes on about it. Smut is SMUT , there are no two ways about it. The third is Luke F-rd, now he has pissed me off equally as the other two, but even though, I can tolerate him a little better. Luke is a writer, basically for nobody, and he is nobody special for that matter. He lies and exaggerates and starts rumors that hurt people, he has that in common with Mike South and Brandy.

These three people have taught me alot about life . I have learned from the pain that have deliberately caused me, that I dont want to be like them in any aspect. I would not trade places with them, ever! You will see what I mean by reading what they posted about me.

In June 1997 , I met a wonderful man , who is now my husband.. He knew all that had taken place and was currently going on. He did not care, he loved me, wanted me to be his wife, he offered me a new life and made sure that I was cared for . We were engaged a month later and in August I was pregnant and we married in September. I had to be tested again for HIV and this time the antibody test came back negative and the DNA came back negative too.

We sure were happy, and now we could put the past behind us for good. The explanation as to why the HIV test were false positive were unknown for quite some time, I have since learned through more test that I have Lupus , I have Discoid Lupus which is not as serious as Lupus and I have always had it, I had been treated for it, and it was dormant. The stressful lifestyle I had in Los Angeles and the drugs I had been doing caused it to surface again. I have been treated again, it it seems to be under control, Im not worried about it and life goes on..

On March 8, 1998 , I gave birth to a baby girl, she is doing just fine, and I have never seen such a tiny little baby. She is just adorable. She has made my life so much more valueable and is a constant reminder of the true love that my husband and I share. I am one of the luckiest people I know. I have been through so much and came out on top, through hard work, responsibilty and perserverance.

I have always believed that the power of love and goodness prevail the forces of evil. Im a prime example of that. Nobody deserves to go through what I have been through. When somebody is going through any type of hardtime or illness, especially dealing with the subject of HIV , it seems common sense would tell us to offer support and comfort any way you can. NOT to try to hurt someone, for any reason. That is what amazes me, is that these people have tried to say things and hurt me nat no cost.

I had to rechannel the negative influences in my life to restructure my spirituality in order to heal and overcome my dilema, the pain that these people had placed in my life was cold and cruel. They hurt me , I did nothing to any of them to deserve this treatment. I have never met any of them, nor do I know what any of them even look like..

My husband, my friends, and our families are my destiny and they are the ones who I am to spend all my time and energy and love on. They get the real "Me". I dont know what I would have done, having to go through this alone, the last 14 months have been hard enough. But now I get my happy ending. No matter what, I have put my life back together, I have conquered lifes hardest lessons and I WON. Nobody could ever say or do anything to me to ever hurt me that bad again. I have been through and heard it all befor. It just would not matter.

I want the people out there to get glimpse at the real me, in hopes that I can reach out to others, and give support to people who need it.There is enough sickness and suffering in this world, we dont need to intentionally do things to hurt people. If you or someone you know is needy, or going through a hardtime, lend your support. It is your responsibilty as a human being. We should all do our part live in peace. Causing turmoil in ones life is wrong. We all have choices and can change. I have alot of wisdom and have done things that Im not proud of, and I have learned the hard way many times.

I am more than willing to help others any way I can, I enjoy doing for others and helping out when I can, it is what makes me feel good. I hope to offer some advice and assistance on this site, and some knowledge. I am a generous and very giving person, I have a very strong life force and a heart as big as Texas.. If you have any questions or comment send them to me email. Enjoy the site, and keep a eye out for updates, as I will be adding all the time.

Love , Nena Cherry

nena@nenacherry.com

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Rant and Rave

Here are some of the post that have been circulating the internet for well over a year now. You will see that nearly all the post are vicious attacks made against me by total strangers. I have never met one single person making these post. See for yourself.

Subject: Re: What's the Latest on Nena Cherry's HIV Status? From: sbsouth@ix.netcom.com (Mike South) Date: 1997/03/02 Nina Cherry is HIV positive and is hiding out with friends. The party (Free Speech Coalition) line is that she got it from an indiscreet encounter over Labor Day weekend. I know what you are thinking, I'm only postingwhat I heard... She IS positive though. Mike South NENA: I NEVER HID OUT, THATS A LIE. IF THE HIV VIRUS CANT BE ISOLATED HOW DO YOU OR ANYONE KNOW EXACTLY WHEN THE VIRUS INFECTS ONE? DO YOU HAVE A TIME, NOON OR NIGHT?

Subject: Anal Sex #2 by L. Ford From: luzdedos@aol.com (LUZDEDOS) Date: 1997/03/23 And what about AIDS? We still don't know if anal queen Barbara Doll has AIDS. Nena Cherry seems HIV positive. Did they catch it in the industry? Doubtful. NENA:ARE YOU SAYING THERE IS NO WAY FOR ONE TO CATCH THE HIV VIRUS WORKING IN PORN? IT IS HIGH RISK, MORE THAN ANY OTHER PROFESSION I KNOW OF.

Subject: Re: Stagliano, AIDS and AVN From: L Thurston Date: 1997/03/31 Nena Cherry OTOH got implants very rapidly after entering the business and did just about every activity known, so that couldn't have been the problem, at least in her case. But there is the little problem of the "tell all" book she said she was writing... NENA: I HAD BREAST IMPLANTS 5 YEARS BEFOR ENTERING PORN.MY BOOK IS A AUTOBIOGRAPHY, MY PORN CAREER IS ONLY ONE PART OF THE ENTIRE BOOK. I SEE NO PROBLEM. YOU DONT KNOW THE CONTENTS OF THE BOOK.

Mike South had a good post on the tests, but it's my understanding that the Elisa is *not* that reliable and a lot can be missed (hence, the reports about 7 positives on Ms. Cherry and 2 for Ms. Doll). NENA: THERE WERE NOT SEVEN TEST, THAT TOO IS INACCURATE! But this and some of the other goings on around the business make me wonder what is *really* going on. One source says several have been "quarrantined" and not allowed to work. And yet, Ms. Cherry was perhaps allowed to work. NENA: I WAS NOT ALLOWED TO WORK, I NEVER WORKED WHILE THIS TOOK PLACE.

Subject: Brandy Alexandre profile by Luke F-rd From: luzdedos@aol.com (LUZDEDOS) Date: 1997/03/24 On Wednesday night, 2/5/97, N. Smith at 7:31 PM Greenwich Mean Time broke the news of John Stagliano's HIV Positive status on Rec.Arts.Movies.Erotica.. Mike South, Brandy and others followed, mentioning Nena Cherry's positive tests. I read the news just after 6 AM PST Thursday and started checking sources, including a 30-minute phone call to Bill Margold, much of which we both understood I'd post on the internet. I then posted Margold's comments on ASM and RAME, leading the latter with "Bill Margold says he's ready to talk to the world to fight for "his son" John Stagliano..." I also mentioned that Nena Cherry had a reputation for using drugs and spreading sexually transmitted diseases. That news was also posted hours before me by such persons as Mike South. Brandy read my posts, became furious and phoned her roommate of two years Bill Margold. She wrote on ASM: "Like it or not, Loser Luke, hard as you tried you did not get to be the first to break the news.... I have spoken to Margold about your extreme lack of discretion and I assure you he will no longer be a "source" of your information if I have anything to do with it. "Margold told me that he told you and now understands why he shouldn't have. Do you always burn people this way or were you momentarily an utter and complete lowlife, slime-sucking, tabloid moron who *thinks* he's a writer?" I talked to Bill in the afternoon. He told me that by posting on Nena Cherry's alleged drug use I had committed a big mistake that'd get me blackballed from the industry. He accused me of revelling in the misery of others. Bill said he was the clearing house for information about porn and that he'd see to it that noone talked to me. Bill added that he'd never thought much of me, that I was a lousy writer who'd never finish this book. And he passed on a warning that Brandy, whose 'very popular on the internet" would get me kicked of it. At midnight, the friend whose computer I'd been using to make my posts, phoned hysterical. She'd just cancelled her internet provider AOL because she'd received an obscene warning about letting me use her computer. Pornographer Mike South rose to my defense on ASM on Friday. "Luke was NOT the first to post this info. And truth is, who cares if he was if what he posted was accurate, and with the possible exception of a final status of Nena Cherry he was very accurate including Nina's reputation as a drug user. "Let's not fall into the old "Kill the messenger" mentality..." Brandy responded: "...He [Luke] is not an entity in the industry and has no business running off at the mouth.. "All his porn sources are officially closed, at least on this end. If that's not so I'm sure he'll tell me so. In that event I will rip new asshole for those parties as well." I began using another friend's computer to access the internet and post on such newsgroups as RAME. Within days my friend received obscene messages warning him against allowing me to use his computer. Luke F-rd NENA: YOU PEOPLE ARE FREAKING NUTS, WHY NOT JUST BREAK OUT THE POPCORN, SOMETHING TRAGIC HAS OCCURED IN ONES LIFE, SAY TO HELL WITH HOW SHE MAY FEEL , ESPECIALLY SINCE NOT ONE OF YOU HAS EVER MET ME. GET ON THE PHONE AND DO YOUR GOSSIP, THEN POST IT ON THE INTERNET. YOUR SHAMELESS.

Subject: Re: Selena Steele UPDATE...The last word From: sbsouth@ix.netcom.com (Mike South) Date: 1997/06/02 The Oyster called me today and stated that they were NOT running the interveiw under any circumstances. I'm going to bring you the truth from Nena Cherry, unless she tries to bulls--- me. Thats a promise. NENA:YOUR GOING TO BRING THEM THE TRUTH..WHO ARE YOU THE ALIGHTY FROM ABOVE. GET A LIFE!

Subject: Re: WHET Neena Cherry , Jordan McKnight, & Davia From: nena@nenacherry.com Date: 1998/01/01 > >APatter292 wrote: > >> I heard that these three ladies all came HIV+. Has anybody heard any news about these ladies? > >Well, Nena Cherry just posted a picture of herself to alt.cult-movies, > >saying she wanted to break into mainstream parts. Brandy promptly posted > >a warning about her unconfirmed HIV status for anyone thinking about breaking out the casting couch. Check it out , it should still be there. NENA:SHE HAS IT IN FOR ME, EVERY CHANCE SHE GETS SHE WANTS TO ATTACK ME, THIS IS TYPICAL AND UNCALLED FOR.

> Why doesn't Brandy mind her own business. NENA: First thing she should do is get a nose job. Well this is really old news. No, I`m not HIV+. As for Jordan Mc Knight and Davia I could`nt tell you, I`m not in contact with them. Quite frankly, I don`t want to know. I try not to meddle in the affairs of others. Especially on this topic. I believe in karma: what comes around goes around. Putting your nose where it does`nt belong and causing people harm for any reason will catch up to you. Brandy, is up to her same ole boring and worthless games. Anyone who has been in this newsgroup has seen her, Luke F-rd, and Mike South try to start rumors of my HIV status . I`ve had so many test in the last year. All my DNA`s have been negative and my western blots have been negative too. It`s not uncommon to test false positive. Roxanne Hall tested postive on a antibody test and had to wait a entire year befor she realized it was a false positive. Then one day she tested negative. I have plenty of knowledge in the subject of HIV. Furthermore, Brandy is a babbling idiot who thinks she knows everything. She`s a joke.. September 27, 1997 I was married to a wonderful man, we have a baby on the way . I have embarked on a new life. We are very happy and the baby is very healthy. Im going to have a baby girl, her name will be Katy. I have a great life now. I own my own home and drive a nice car. I own two companies. Im making great money. Life may have been hard, but it sure is great now! I dont owe anyone any explanation here in this newsgroup or any where in society for that matter. I have paid my dues, and that is how I got where I am today. Im the type of person that if someone does good , then I am happy for that person . If someone has hardships I have empathy for that person. But someone like Brandy, I dont feel sorry for her at all. Any type of problems she has Im positive that she brought on herself at some point in her life. The girl has a serious problem. I dont know what happened to her, but she needs to seek professional help. Anyway, Im giving you the facts, out of choice. This is it, do with it what you want. Let Brandy throw her temper tantrum. That is what she does best. BTW she does need a nose job. Happy New Year! Nena Cherry

Subject: Re: Bianca Trumps final words!!!!! From: Rog@rogreviews.com (Roger T Pipe) Date: 1998/02/14 On Fri, 13 Feb 98 21:03:43, biancatrump@biancatrump.com (Bianca Trump) wrote: >I was having fun posting and responding here." Was" being the key word. As of >tonight I won't be coming back though. I don't know what the f--- is wrong >with some of you people. Maybe your not getting any at home. But I refuse to >put up with this ridiculousness. I will no longer tolerate having to defend >myself to such idiots. I have better things to do. For those of you who love >me Thank you. For those of you who don't f--- you. Bianca Trump And another one is run out by the very people who sit at home and quietly jack off to her films. Not that I agree with running away from one's critics Bianca, but you've got a point. The second anyone sets foot in here, the feeding frenzy begins and some people are not happy until they run people out, battered and bloody, on a rail. NENA: WHAT A SICK WAY TO BE! On the other hand, I have even more respect now for Brandy, Patrick, Mike South and yes even Luke, all of whom have taken this sort of relentless pounding and did not go running away ala Tyffany Million, Nena Cherry and now Bianca. NENA: I NEVER WENT AWAY, I JUST PREFER TO SPEND MY TIME DOING MORE POSTIVE THINGS , SUCH AS SPENDING TIME WITH FRIENDS AND FAMILY.

Come on people, can't we all just get along........Good bye Bianca. Good luck. LATE Rog While I agree with your sentiments entirely Rog, I think there are some rather stark differences in the people you name above. Brandy took a tremendous amount of everything, dished it out as well, and seems like a person who was born to be on Usenet:) She had nothing really to "sell" either so she didn't blow town when the lynch mob formed. Her reasons for being on the Internet are very different from others. Nena Cherry dug her own grave by what she posted and e-mailed non-stop to people, period. I'm sure with the HIV stuff going on she wasn't in the best frame of mind but her posts were incoherent and non-sensical. NENA: NOT WITH ALL THE LIES BEING SPREAD FOR THE WORLD TO VIEW. PEOPLE ATTACKED ME, I WAS GOING THROUGH A TOUGH TIME.PEOPLE DID NOT OFFER ANY SUPPORT OR COMFORT THEY ONLY GAVE ME GRIEF.

I think that since Mike South is as big as redwood tree he doesn't let what anyone types on keyboard bother him too much:) I thought I was big until I saw Mike. I like him because he knows the good place to live in this world and doesn't give a s--- whether AVN or Bill Margold like him or not, he is going to do his thing regardless. NENA: WHAT IS HIS SO CALLED''THING''? HURTING PEOLPLE? ? HE IS A LOSER, I WOULD'NT SEE HIM AS A ROLE MODEL OF ANY KIND. He's also one of the very few people that has ever apologized for posting anything when they relied on some info that turned out to be wrong. A lot of the rest just "stick to their guns" because their lack of self-esteem keep them from admitting a simple mistake and going forward. Some of the same people who lit into Mike so gleefully have no problem trashing performers every month in their fishwrapper of a trade publication and aren't about to say "oops, we kind of f---ed-up here." NENA: HOW IMPRESSIVE. TOTAL SCUM, I HAVE NO RESPECT FOR THIS GARBAGE.

Subject: Nena Cherry From: sbsouth@ix.netcom.com (Mike South) Date: 1997/06/01 As a result of the selena Steele thing I have been contacted by Nena Cherry, who wants to "tell all" in a no holds barred interview. If I do it, I'll probably make it a RAME interview like I did with Melissa Hill. The ground rules are "no holds barred" she will answer questions on any subject. NENA: GROUND RULES? WHO THE HELL DO YOU THINK YOU ARE? I DONT ANSWER TO ANYBODY. GET A REAL LIFE!

Would you like me to do this? if so please submit your questions now. She lives in Houston and I will be leaving for there on Thursday afternoon. All questions must get to me by Wednesday night. I'm gonna throw in some of my own on this one... Mike South

Subject: Re: No Interview? Nena Cherry From: sbsouth@ix.netcom.com (Mike South) Date: 1997/06/04 Truth is originally I was going to post her interview as a RAME interview, but at this point I would say it's unnecessary. As for a magazine picking up the interview, there may have been some interest but since most of the magazines read this NG it's old news to them too. Transcribing an interview (like the one I did with Heather Hunter) takes MANY hours, I had over four hours of audio tape on HH. I'm not going to spend the time on it if all I'm gonna do is repeat what everbody already knows. My conversations with Nena have been pleasant and I wish her the best. NENA: THIS IS THE ONLY NICE THING HE EVER SAID TO ME, IF YOU NOTICE THE DATES, HE HAS NOT KEPT GOOD ON THESE FRIENDLY- ONE TIME WORDS.

Subject: Re: Apology to Nena Cherry From: msouth@mindspring.com (Mike South) Date: 1997/09/07 luzdedos@aol.com (LUZDEDOS) wrote: >Unfortunately, my posts have been a major source of pain to Nena Cherry. >I'm sorry for that. Digging into someone's privacy and revealing what you >find is usually a terrible thing. >Nena is about to get married. She has already embarked on a new life. I >truly don't have a clue about how HIV status works or doesn't work. How one >can move from positive or negative...etc... I don't understand that stuff. >I do understand that Nena has gone through a tremendous ordeal, and >overall, seems a stronger and better person. I regret the extent to which I >exacerbated her troubles. I wish her luck with her coming marriage. >Luke F-rd NENA: THANK YOU LUKE. I GAINED RESPECT FOR YOU AFTER ALL .

Luke you are such a pussy.... Mike South NENA: HOW INTELLIGENT.

Subject: Re: Nena Cherry is Cool... From: msouth@mindspring.com (Mike South) Date: 1997/09/30 Welcome to the Luzedos self hate school of being a pussy. Mike South NENA: ANOTHER DISPLAY OF YOU CORRUPT MENTAILTY.

This is an apology. I made some nasty comments about Ms. Cherry in this newsgroup I shouldn't have made. I've since received email from her which was polite and far more civil than I deserved. There is no excuse for my nastiness. However, I will say had I thought she'd see my post I'd not have said the things I said. And I guess this is the problem -- too many of us don't realize folks in the industry are people too! Ins. of Piscatology & Advanced Autophobic Studies 1600 Pennsylvania Ave Wash, DC Gary Lloyd Publisher New Fishwrapper Times NENA: THANK YOU, GARY.

Subject: Re: NENA CHERRY FANS WANTED From: msouth@mindspring.com (Mike South) Date: 1998/01/28 Godsize1 wrote: >I have an Interview lined up with Nena Cherry for my Pornstar site. >I have the standard questions organised, does anyone have any questions >they would like to contribute? >When the Interview is added to my site I will notify via this newsgroup. >from godsize1@cobweb.com.au> NENA: THIS WAS FOR AN INTERVIEW AND BELOW YOU WILL SEE WHERE MIKE TRIED TO DISCREDIT ME AGAIN.

Yes I have one that she has not answered in the past. I want to know why in January of 1997 well AFTER she had known that she tested positive for HIV she shot a gang bang. She did this knowing that she had tested positive, whether she was positive is open to debate, but I find her actions reprehensible. Next question Nena has yet to offer any proof whatsoever that she has subsequently tested negative and is now HIV free, why is that? Bet she wont answer these and/or she will lie about it. Mike South NENA: I NEVER SHOT A GANGBANG AT THIS TIME, ESPECIALLY WHEN THIS TOOK PLACE. YOUR ACTIONS SEEM REPREHENSIBLE.FURTHERMORE I HAVE SENT TEST (HIV-) TO L.A., AND VERY CURRENT(1998, AND 1997) , AND WHY WOULD I EVER OFFER YOU OR ANYONE HERE ANY PROOF, I DONT WORK FOR YOU, AND THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH YOU!
Subject: Nena Cherry Update... From: msouth@mindspring.com (Mike South) Date: 1998/01/29 You guys are gonna LOVE this. I posted my nena question under the appropriate thread. Nena then proceeds to bombard me with threating emails, she even said she was going to call the FBI on me. NENA: I DID MAKE CALLS AND HAD SEVERAL MEETINGS WITH THE AUTHORITIES AND HAVE FILED COMPLAINTS THROUGH MANY FEDERAL / GOVERNMENT OFFICES, HIRED AN ATTORNEY AND ONE IS ON RETAINER AS WELL AS A PRIVATE INVESTIGATOR. SHOOTING PORNOGRAPHY IS ILLEGAL IN TEXAS AND DISTRIBUTION OF THE MATERIAL IS ILLEGAL WHEN IT IS SHOT HERE IN MY HOMETOWN.

I informed the bimbo that there are no federal laws against making porn....obviously she went ballistic. She called my ISP (mindspring) and complained about me mindspring reveiwed the emails I sent her, along with her emails to me. Then they suspended HER account because she was threatening me.... NENA: MY ACCOUNT WAS NEVER SUSPENDED, ONLY IN YOUR DREAMS! IM NOT EVEN WITH MINDSPRING. THIS INFORMATION YOU TELL PEOPLE IS FALSE. Im still ROTFL. Kudos to mindspring using good sense and checking out her claim. BTW Nena if you are looking for that retraction you demanded....keep looking, my question stands. unlike other "pussies" around here I stand by my posts and I'll admit when they are wrong...this one wasn't it was a question, solicited by someone who is supposed to interveiw you. So answer it... NENA: QUESTION ANSWERED, AND I WOULD NEVER EXPECT AN APOLOGY FROM A LOWLIFE LIKE YOU! That is when your account gets re-activated NENA: ACCOUNT IS ACTIVE. BWAA HA HA! Mike South This on the heels of her driving everyone in alt.cult-movies bananas with a pointless flame war with Brandy. Then she caps it by posting lots of "snip" posts-- no message, just "message snipped". WTF??? I suspect you were hardly the first to report her-- or whoever was posting in her name. AFAIK, we had at least two "Nena Cherry"s in a.c-m. One could spell and use proper syntax, one couldn't. NENA: ONLY ONE NENA, AT ONE TIME I HAD NO EXPERIENCE ONLINE , NOW I DO.

Subject: Re: The Nitro Cruise From: msouth@mindspring.com (Mike South) Date: 1998/03/05 "NC" wrote: >If anyone is interested in information on the Nitro Cruise..... >> Dont miss the Nitro Cruise May 15th - 18th 1998 >> Port Everglades, Florida to Nassau, Bahamas and return. >> 3 day - 3 night SEXTRAVAGAZA >> Hosted by >> 40 Fabulous Adult XXX Actresses >> and >> 20 Drop Dead Gorgeous Hostesses >> 24 hour full casino on board, 2 gourmet complete dining room, disco, >> theater, showroom, and swimming pool. >> Book now to cruise with your favorite adult actresses. >> Nina Hartley, Sharon Mitchell, Amber Lynn, Lovette, Anna Malle, Houston, >> Brittany Andrews, Nikki Sinn, Morgan Fairlane, Stacy Valentine, Kristina >> St. James, Kerri Downs, Kimberly Jade, Christy Lake and many, many more. >> For more information email me ( I will also be on board, making my first >> public appearance in a year.) >> Nena Cherry: nena@nenacherry.com Looks as though Ms Cherry is in for a surprise. I've been contacted about being a staff photographer for this event. If my schedule doesn't conflict I'll probably go. Mike South NENA: IM NOT IN FOR ANY SUPRISES, EVEN IF YOU WENT, ACTUALLY I COULD CARE LESS, IM NOT GOING FOR YOU ANYWAY, AND YOU ARE NOT GOING TO BE THE THORN IN MY SIDE AS YOU TRY TO ONLINE. THATS A PROMISE.

Subject: Re: HIV and Nina Cherry and John Stagliano From: nsmith@access4.digex.net (N. Smith) Date: 1997/02/06 The gavel fell for Nina yesterday ... HIV+. I got the call a couple of hours after the results. I don't know if anymore testing will be done. She's been through 3 clinics and 5 tests already. At this rate, it's probable that they will keep testing. NENA: YOU LIKE IT WHEN TRAGEDY OCCURS IN ONES LIFE SO YOU CAN WRITE ABOUT. BETTER HOPE THAT THIS NEVER HAPPENS TO YOU.

Regards, Mike South (sbsouth@ix.netcom.com) wrote: : Last week Nina Cherry tested positive for HIV on both the Elisa and : most accurate test) No further info other than Nina has a reputation : for spreading less fatal maladies.... NENA: AND WHAT OTHER LESS THAN FATAL MALADIES ARE YOU LIEING ABOUT NOW?

I have known about the Nina Cherry thing for about a week but didn't post due to conflicting info. What I have posted here I believe to be from a very reliable source. NENA: WHO MIGHT THAT SOURCE BE?

I have also placed calls to a couple of friends at Evil Angel. I for one wish both John and Nina the best, I don't know Nina but wouldn't wish this on Andrea Dwyorkin. NENA: YOU HAVE NOW ADMITTED THAT YOU DO NOT KNOW ME. I DONT BELIEVE THAT YOU HAVE MY BEST INTEREST IN YOUR HEART, AFTER THE POST YOU HAVE MADE ABOUT A TOTAL STRANGER. Mike South

Subject: Re: John Stagliano has AIDS From: halzee@aol.com (Halzee) Date: 1997/02/07 Luke F-rd here. I was accused of rushing to ASM to try to be the first to post about John Stagliano had AIDS. I would never want to be the first to make public such sensitive information. I knew that half a dozen persons, such as Brandy Alexandre and Mike South, had posted before me. I simply wanted to add the perspective of Bill Margold who told me that he wanted his phone number posted so that he could deal with the issue. I relayed Bill's comments about John, including a comment that Bill had said that John and Brandy had lived together, which now seems not to have been correct. I first posted this to the moderated - or censored - rec.arts.movies.erotica newsgroup which is usually far superior to this one in that it does not have ads. For some reason, RAME has censored all comments about John Stagliano except for those from Brandy, Mike South and one other person. I don't understand why and I don't know enough to judge their position. In my post to RAME, I included Bill Margold's number as he told me to do so. I did not include his number on my post to ASM... I also included info that Nina Cherry has a bad reputation in the industry for carelessness regarding drugs and other matters. Info that had already been posted. Bill Margold (over the phone) and Brandy Alexandre through ASM and Bill criticized me for doing so... and they may be entirely right. I don't know. Nina has that reputation. It's widespread. I didn't make it up. It was posted far before me. I added nothing new. Simply tried to place things in perspective. I told my friends and acquaintances in the media to talk to Bill Margold about the story. As a journalist, I understand it my job to seek out information and bring it to the public, so long as the information is either needed or harmless. The John Stagliano story is sensitive and there are many legitimate views on how much it should be publically aired. In my post, whch you can reread at the top of this section, I simply summarized info that had already gone out, and added the perspective and kind words of Bill Margold. I don't know all the implications of this story and it is not for me to know them or judge them right now. The news will come out. John Stagliano's right to privacy is balanced by the industry's concern for the health of other performers and the public's interest in the porn industryNENA: RIGHT TO PRIVACY , I GUESSS I WASNT INCLUDED.

Subject: Screw Comes Through (the Stagliano/Cherry situation) From: p_riley@pipeline.com (Patrick Riley) Date: 1997/03/06 Finally one of the print media has produced the news we heard on this group about a month ago. From Screw 3/10/97: Begin Quote VIRUS CON DIOS The porn industry is gearing up for its latest scandal with the news that John "Buttman" Stagliano is HIV-positive. According to sources who requested anonymity, Stagliano contracted the virus in Rio, while in the company of a Brazilan ladyboy. Speaking from the Evil Angel offices, Stagliano said that his HIV status will not affect is (sic) adult entertainment career as such: He only works in a few on-screen sex scenes a year anyway since starting his wildly successful Buttman series, and he will continue to direct. His next project, as yet unnamed, is scheduled to feature EA stablemate Rocco Siffredi, will have a big budget and will be a two-part epic. Similar news is affecting nifty porn chiclet Nina Cherry, who also turned up HIV-positive on a recent blood test. When a second test came back HIV-negative, a DNA test was carried out, which confirmed the sad news. NENA: NOT ONE SINGLE DNA TEST EVER CAME BACK POSITIVE, ITS A LIE AND THERE WAS A RETRACTION PRINTED A FEW MONTHS AFTER THIS QUOTE IN SCREW MAGAZINE, I CALLED SCREW MYSELF. Perhaps most alarming about Cherry's situation is that she reportedly performed a multi-man gang-bang during the recent Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas NENA: NO GANGBANGS WERE SHOT A THE CES EITHER. She appeared in the flick with several of porn (sic) big guns as well as some amateurs who were new to the business. All are now on six-month quarantine. End Quote I also got March's AVN today. Unless the news is buried in a review of some Leisure Time Entertainment feature movie, they don't want to share it with the great unwashed (us). I guess the moral of this story is for the best, most reliable and up to date information, r.a.m.e is the way to go. NENA: DOUBTFUL THAT R.A.M.E DELIVERS ANY TRUTHFUL OR PERTNENT INFORMATION ABOUT MYSELF OR OTHERS. IT SEEM R.A.M.E. IS THE TEMPLE OF GOSSIP MONGERS AND LIARS. Many thanks to the industry people in particular who have made this the case: Mike South, Rodney Moore, Brandy (yeah, her too) and that Australian muck-raking mafia-obsessed Luke F-rd. But if you can't get it from r.a.m.e. the next best thing is that old, fat, small-dicked pornographer, Al Goldstein . At least he has a sense of humor. Patrick Riley

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Subject: Re: Brandy Alexandre From: nena@nenacherry.com Date: 1998/01/02 > >Brandy Alexandre's  is famous for using > >her limited knowledge of the law in her desperate attempts to try to > >get people's ISP's to cancel their account. Her desperate attempts to *try* and get people`s ISP`s to cancel their account is hillarious! GEE! Maybe it makes her feel like she is somebody BIG. This nonsense has been > >perpetrated since 1995!!!!!! Check it out. This is a sad story. Since 1995, that is real sad! Do you think people are actually afraid of her? Nah! Can`t be. She > >now posts in a moderated newsgroup(rec.arts.movie.erotica). Her life > >is obviously miserable. >It is obvious that she is extremely troubled. > As much as I think Brandy's dissemination of AIDS rumors is reprehensible, > this "outing" wasn't necessary either. Not a stellar way to start out the new > year. Don't make me quote Rodney King, people! ;-) From her very first post about me in recent times, she has been extremely rude and tried to personally attack me every chance she gets. From calling me a AIDS riddled whore, to illiterate, and even in past making statements to me such as this: NENA: THIS IS AN ACTUAL EMAIL SHE SENT TO ME SOME TIME AGO. I WAS SHOCKED! Brandy says: "You would know about putting things under your skin, thats what you do..is shoot up, right?"

I thought I was going to throw up, right then and there. Not for any other reason except that I detest being called a heroine user. Never did it and never would do that crap.But to play these awful games with someone in a newsgroup its silly. She has a problem and no one is going to want anything to do with her. Talking like this to me, and she does it to the majority of the users. I may have done adult movies, but just because I did them, I dont think Im better than anybody. Give me a break, Brandy and get off your pedestal. You are not better than anybody I know. People I know dont act like you or talk like you. You are RUDE. She has started her New Year with a bad attitude. Well everyone else I hope that you all have a very Happy New Year! Nena Cherry Brandy says: > >>Jealous of what? Being a f---ed up AIDS riddled whore? NENA: THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR A FORMER PORN STAR TO CARRY ON WITH ANOTHER FORMER PORN STAR TO THIS DEGREE. SHE HAS SHOWED NO SUPPORT OR COMFORT AND HAS INTENTIONALLY TRIED TO HURT ME WITH THIS WHOLE HIV/AIDS THING. SHE BETTER HOPE SHE NEVER GETS IT...

> >Is this an actual quote from "Brandy?" s---, this is *nasty* business > >indeed! I *was* going to put the both of you in my kill filter, but > >maybe now I'll join in, that is after watching you two go at it for a > >while more . NENA: TYPICAL R.A.M.E. USER.

> How can one be a whore and not the other? Will someone please clarify? After > all, they were in the same business, were they not? > Todd NENA: YES WE WERE IN THE SAME BUSINESS, MAYBE SHE THINKS OF HER SELF AS A DIGNIFIED WHORE.

Yes, It`s a actual quote. This is how Brandy really behaves. She sent this fine piece of email to my company computer, for all eyes to see. We passed it around the office. Brandy undermines her own credibilty as a poster here in this newsgroup , posting such filth. She`s a real mental case. Here in the newgroup she allows you to see one side of her, but its not real! Don`t believe her hype. I was not shocked ,she has cursed me out much worse. It`s no wonder any one here even likes her at all. But I am sure with classless phrases like this leaving her lips she is becoming more of a turn off to the ones who see what she is really like.

Todd, regardless of my past , I can assure you that I am in a monogamous marriage, Im happy and have a baby on the way. Brandy is not married and I dont see her as being married any time in the near future. Brandy is worthless and probably could not find a man to talk into marriage, let alone find one who would want to marry her. She`s worthless. I only say that because she has only shown a very ugly side of her.. Has anyone ever witnessed her being civilized,humane or kind to ANYONE?? Statements like "Being a AIDS riddled whore" are uncalled for. Thats not a lady like statement.But it sounds like some thing that she would say . NENA: FURTHERMORE IF ANYBODY IN THIS GROUP WHO HAD TALKED THIS NONSENSE ABOUT ME HAD HIV/AIDS, WHO WOULD THEY BE MARRIED TO. I BET THE DIVORCE RATE WOULD ROCKET!!

Who ever said I had AIDS? Not my doctor, not my test. Nobody. What`s her problem? Oh, who cares. She can blow steam for all I care. Brandy better hope that she never has some type of ailment , or someone out there starts a bad rumor about her, because she deserves no sympathy from anybody after all the terrible and disgusting remarks that she has made about me and other people in this newsgroup. Nena Cherry

Subject: Re: Brandy and Nena..the DPEST and DAG0 of 1998 From: nena@nenacherry.com Date: 1998/01/04 > Brandy Alexandre wrote: > > In article <01bd1861$50b3d8e0$d16b6dce@nena.wxs.com>, "NC" wrote: > > >Drug free and AIDS free. Tell me what your definition of AIDS is. > > >You need to re evaluate your deinition of AIDS. > > >Is that like Multiple Scelerosis. Lupus Erythematosis? > > >That is AIDS. > > >There are many different autoimmune diseases and I dont have a single one. > > >Go over the scores of post so I dont have to keep repeating myself, please. Brandy says: > > I think we'd rather read your posts claiming the number of truly bizarre > > reason why your HIV tests came back they way they did. Drugs? Cold Medicine? Nena: Will you give it a rest? Its apparent that you need some therapy. You are a very troubled individual. Always have to lash out and be nasty. See alt.psychology.personality it may benefit you if you open your mind to positive mental qualities and not this garbage you are posting. Brandy: Cat Scratch Fever? The DNA for HIV is just that. NENA: THE DNA FOR HIV IS WHAT??? TRY TO MAKE SOME SENSE.THE DNA TEST I HAD FOR HIV WAS /IS/ AND ALWAYS HAS BEEN NEAGTIVE.

No amount of drug use is > > going to change the complex structure of a virus. NENA: WHAT PROOF DO YOU HAVE? ARE YOU SPECIALIZED IN THE FIELD OF MICROVIROLOGY? I DONT THINK SO.

Not to mention that what > > you just said made no sense at all. NENA: SPEAK FOR YOURSELF.

Are you tired of repeating yourself, or have you ran out of constructive and intelligent conversation?

> > >Traci Lords and Marilyn Chamber scream porn as well. I earned my name, I > > >worked very hard for it. I am not ashamed of it.Sorry sill girl.

I would chose being a ``silly girl`` than the way you are behaving anyday. Still calling names and starting rumors..

> The name Nenah Cherry does not scream porn - one associates with it the > beautiful mixed race singer, who I believe has appeared in films. Take > the " h " off the name and you have a cheesy porn starlet

I can live with that, Ive been called worse, by Brandy

Subject: Re: Brandy Alexandre From: nena@nenacherry.com Date: 1998/01/04

> But in an earlier post in his thread you said that SHE was a Whore, By > definition, *Because* she was in Porn. Aren't you, By extension of your > *Own* statement, calling Yourself a Whore now?

No Im not a whore. > > : She has started her New Year with a bad attitude. > > As they say, It takes Two to Tango. > > --Brandy has been referred to alt.psychology.personality I will not communicate with her any other way, its apparent that she has behavior disorders and should meet them head-on and not sidestep them with trivial self deception. I hope she changes. I really do. And I wish her the best Nena Cherry

Subject: Re: Brandy: Aggression as a Motive From: nena@nenacherry.com Date: 1998/01/03 It has been said in Deja News that Brandy has a deep rooted problem. This is the conclusion Ive began to draw from reading her aggressive attacks posted in the newsgroups. People have measurable tempermental difference in aggressiveness, and there is clear evidence that some forms of human aggression are rooted directly in brain function. First, aggression is a response to *frustration*. Such as the thwarting of efforts or the loss of goal objectives. (ie: In Brandy`s case being blackballed from the industry.) Second, aggression is often a reaction to injury, insults,or threats. The most dependable way to elicit aggression is by insults or attack. If aggression helps a person satisfy other motives, it may be a habitual response. Suppose Brandy has found that aggression helps her gain power over others. Her power motivation is satisfied at the same time she is being aggressive, satisfaction of the need for power thus reinforces aggressive behavior , (ie: insults, attacks) and she is more likely to be aggressive in the future in situations involving power motivation. Just thought I would share my analytical view of Brandy Alexandre`s Behavior.

Subject: Re: Getting Laid at cons...(was: some word I can't spell) From: aahz@netcom.com (Aahz) Date: 1998/01/13 For those of you wondering who Brandy Alexandre is and haven't bothered checking DejaNews, here she is in crowning glory (this one actually makes more sense than many I've seen):

>> Brandy is just ranting and raving as usual. >> And that amount of money was so incredibly small, I personally would not >> have wasted my time. >> I guess she had nothing better to do with her time. >> Nena Cherry > >Like the originator of the thread, Nena was not around the industry at >the time I was so she is actually quite clueless about the circumstances >and amounts involved in a couple of legal actions. All together the >amount was/is over $20,000, which I wouldn't consider small. There is >also a point to be noted that Nena does a great deal of whining about >principles, so I find it hard to believe that she would ridicule someone >who likewise fights for them even if the amount was mere hundreds. But >seeing how she has been so schizoid lately (due to the fact that her >husband is speaking and writer for her these days, as evidenced through >comparison of earlier rec.arts.movies.erotica posts) I guess we could >expect her to babble anything.

Subject: Re: Nena Cherry, not the singer From: nena@nenacherry.com Date: 1997/12/31 In article , brandy@kamikaze.xxx (Brandy Alexandre) thus spake: > > > > >But don't try for the casting couch no matter how emphatically she offers it. > > >This girl is major bad news. I know her personally. > > >Brandy Alexandre NENA: THIS WAS NOT CALLED FOR EITHER , I USE THE INTERNET FOR BUSINESS PURPOSES, THATS WHAT MY POST WAS USED FOR , WHEN YOU HAD TO STICK YOUR NOSE IN AFFAIRS THAT ARE NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS. AND YOU DO NOT KNOW ME PERSONALLY, YOU ARE A LIAR. THE ONLY BAD NEWS I SEE HERE IS YOU. AT THE SAME TIME WHEN SHE CARRIED ON ABOUT ME, SHE HAD SENT ME A THREATNING EMAIL TELLING ME HOW SHE COULD VERY EASILY TAKE AWAY ANY CHANCES OF ME EVER HAVING ANY MOTION PICTURE SUCCESS. MY HUSBAND AND I LAUGHED.

> > Things don't work that way in the mainstream industry anyway. And I seriously > > doubt that casting directors with any decent rep are cruising the ng's looking for talent. > You apparently have no connection in the industry at all. The casting couch is alive and well. If you > don't believe it, ask yourself this simple question: How does (Melanie Griffith, Keanu Reeves, Jenny > McCarthy, et al) keep getting work. > Not to mention that someone enterprising enough just has to have a crappy screenplay with a young blonde > lead in it sitting around, attach Ms. Cherry to it, and introduce her and the project to the right > investor. Bad B-movies can be made for $200,000 dollars, and I'm sure there's someone stupid enough to > trade that for the right amount of "quality time" with the right "starlet."

Brandy is just a very mean and vinictive person who has no emotion and gets off on being rude to people. Personally, I think she`s jealous, that she has never had the oppurtunity to do even a B Movie. " Oh Well"...is my reaction to the moans and groans of those who never went for their goals or were too afraid to go after them. Even if its a B Movie, i`ts not a porno. So for me and alot of others who will stand by me and support my efforts, thats an accomplishment. (sigh) For so long in these newsgroups people have been critical, lied, started rumors,and gossiped, tearing away at everything that one could work so hard at, like they were vultures. Im so glad that Im not among that kind of human behavior. Iam better than that. Ive worked too hard to get where Im at in my life. So I sit back and laugh , because its really sad that their lives are so boring. Im doing great, I have a wonderful husband and the greatest family. I have made a new life and this is just the beginning... Nena Cherry "But don`t try for the casting couch no matter how emphatically she offers it" (giggle) I think I need stitches from laughing so hard....... Brandy, you must be referring to yourself. We have never met, so for you to say you "know" me "personally" is untrue. Get a life.

>Brandy Alexandre responded: > >Only because you took it that way. Pointing out your own error and emotion > >apparently doesn't sit well with you. It must be lonely all the way up there.

She`s always so busy looking for human error in all of us , that she forgets that she herself is also imperfect, and capable of making the same mistakes that she knocks you down over.

Brandy you are the one who is going to end up all alone , and lonely. You alienate people from wanting to get to know you, with your wicked ways. If you took a look around in the real world you will find alot more good, but first of all you must quit looking for imperfections. Because that will be your biggest downfall. There are alot of good people out there. You will never know as long as you are mean to everybody I pity you.

Subject: Re: Nena Cherry, not the singer From: X-Nico Date: 1998/01/02 Brandy Alexandre wrote: (snip) > > No matter how much Nena says she's > "made it." The fact that she's claiming her fame under the non de plume that > already belongs to someone with a SAG card proves that she hasn't -- at least > not in anything we'll ever see, and that she hasn't done enough research to > pull off a believeable lie. NENA: IT TOOK NO RESEARCH , I WAS APPROACHED AND AUDITIONED AND GOT A PART. WHO, WHAT , WHEN , AND WHERE DOES NOT CONCERN YOU OR ANYONE HERE. NO THE NAME I USE IS NOT NENA CHERRY THE PORN PERSONA.

Subject: Re: Brandy Alexandre From: nena@nenacherry.com Date: 1998/01/02 > In article <68hjas$1oo_002@primenet.primenet.com>, brandy@kamikaze.xxx (Brandy Alexandre) thus spake: > > > >Well, your (collective) definitions may vary, but to me a whore is one who > >will f--- anyone, anywhere, for any reason. Nena stated in several posts that > >she loved gang bangs before she ever got into porn, and used to seek them out. > > She says she was a party girl and drugs enhanced her encounters and she > >generally liked to go out and f---. NENA: I NEVER SAID DRUGS ENHANCED ANY ENCOUNTERS, THATS ANOTHER LIE! I ALSO NEVER SAID I GENERALLY LIKE TO GO OUT AND f--- . IN MY DEFINITION YOU ARE JUST AS BIG OF A WHORE AS ANYONE WHO DOES PORN, YOU STILL f--- TO MAKE YOUR MONEY. AND YOU WERE STILL EXPOSING YOURSELF TO THE SAME DANGERS ( HIV, STD`S AND HERPES). YOU WERE NO DIFFERENT THAN ANY OF US. YOU MAY HAVE EVEN HAD A FEW ENCOUNTERS HEALTH WISE THAT WE DO NOT KNOW ABOUT.

> So she's got good interpersonal skills. ;-) > >In my case I really led a "normal" life except my 9 to 5 was only two or three > >times a month and was sex under professional circumstances. NENA: WHETHER IT WAS 2 TIMES OR 10 TIMES A MONTH, PROFESSIONAL OR WHATEVER YOU WERE STILL A WHORE.

Any person who > >wildly engages in sex with total disregard for propriety, and certainly one > >who spams the internet with pictures of her doing it, is a whore.

NENA: AND YOUR POINT IS...

> Well, now, you do claim in your bio that you would have sex in order to > acquire things. Doesn't that fit the definition as well? Let's be fair to > Nena here. The lines do tend to get blurry. > Todd

Nena: Brandy did quite a few movies during the course of her career. They were porno movies. This is pretty simple:it`s professional, but you f--- to make money. That must qualify Brandy as a whore. If she was allowed to get back in the business and make pornos again, she would be a born again WHORE. I have a husband and he would never marry a whore. So , Im a housewife now , I would never do adult movies again. I want real parts with my clothes on. Real roles are not found laying on your back and spreading your legs. So , who is the WHORE now? I dont have to answer this question...(smile) Nena Cherry

Subject: Re: Nena Cherry and people who shoudl get OUT of the gene pool From: raj@netcom.com (Roger Lee) Date: 1998/01/13 Brandy Alexandre wrote:

>>No one really cares about this. > >I guess you found that out after you thought, in your dimwitted >not-so-endearing way, they did. Jokes on you!

Uh, sweets, YOU were the one that posted the screechy 300 or so line screed here. NC didn't. It appears to THIS observer that it was YOU who thought that we might give even a sub atomic s--- about this.

We don't.

So, my dear, it appears that the joke's on YOU!

Now please just go away. Snort. Brandy yanking anyone's chain. That's a laugh.

I did a quick search on the intrepid Ms Alexandre; there are those of you who might remember how she hung her towering intellect out for all to see in news.admin.net-abuse.misc, in which she got all huffy because she tried to repost some spam which was cancelled, then tried to cancel her own messages which were automatically re-posted, which she tried to re- cancel, etc. This is succinctly summarized in http://www.dannyland.org/~daemons/why/brandy.html and there's an absolutely hysterical link to an e-mail exchange in which she illustrates an understanding of trademark law equal to her understanding of cancellation in n.a.n-a.m.

Presumably, I am now going to be a co-defendant in her lawsuit, 'cause I use the trademarked name "Brandy Alexandre."

Pat "No pictures, though. Thank God." Steppic

> Brandy Alexandre wrote: > >I'm sure you're serious Lenore, and I will be happy to oblige. Really. It's > >just that I feel I must, and certainly have the right to, address the slander > >in the group where it was posted. I didn't pick a.p, Nena did. NENA: OH , YOU PICKED IT ALL RIGHT . NOW YOU ARE GOING BEYOND PICKING, YOU ARE MAKING AN ASS OUT OF YOURSELF ONLINE!

Not my fault sweetheart. I have bad news for you dimwitt In order to be slandered, your good name would have to be > brought into disrepute. > There is no way that can happen. Peeve: You guys who buy into Brandy's gig and feed it. She's sitting in her apt. with her little kitty giggling her butt off that she can so effectively yank the peever's chain and get 'em to flame her- one of the reasons you guys didn't want *her* in alt.peeves was what you defined as excessive flamage (among others). Ignor her. !Peeve: Seeing Julian and Vinnie with yanked chains.... NENA: ABOVE YOU SEE THAT BRANDY WAS SOMEWHAT DOGGED OUT BY THESE GUYS IN ANOTHER NEWSGROUP. SHE HAD IT COMING THOUGH. I DIDNT POST ALL OF WHAT THEY SAID TO AND ABOUT HER, BUT SHE RAN OFF, BECAUSE SHE WAS FINALLY ATTACKED.

Subject: Re: Nena Cherry...tonight, IRC. From: brandy@kamikaze.xxx (Brandy Alexandre) Date: 1997/06/05 She ducked out after saying very little to clear the alleged air and refused to answer any hard questions. NENA: I NEVER DUCKED OUT , I SIMPLY COULD NOT ACCESS THE IRC, I BELIEVE THAT SOMEONE KEPT KICKING ME OFF. WOULD NOT SUPRISE ME. I forget where Jeff said the log was posted,but I'm sure he'll fill us in again. Brandy Alexandre

Subject: Re: Apology to Nena Cherry From: Wahoo Date: 1997/09/08 Brandy Alexandre wrote: he thinks he can be absolved of all his ill-conceived comments by apologizing for them later. NENA: LUKE DID THE RIGHT THING, WHERE IM FROM ADMITTING YOUR WRONG OR APOLOGIZING FOR BEING MEAN OR RUDE IS APPROPRIATE. I NEVER HEARD YOU APOLOGIZE OR MIKE SOUTH.

Here, Here. Taking things back is shallow. Thinking before opening your mouth is smart.

Subject: Re: Brandy Alexandre From: Michel Date: 1998/01/02 (Todd) wrote: > >As much as I think Brandy's dissemination of AIDS rumors is reprehensible, > >this "outing" wasn't necessary either. Not a stellar way to start out the new > >year. Don't make me quote Rodney King, people! ;-) Brandy: > Oh, outing, especially of me, is old as farts and he's years behind. The fact > is I've been "outed" so many times with so many "real names" it's hard for me > to remember which one is right until I get my paycheck. Even my social > security number comes back to Brandy Alexandre so who's to say what my > real name is according to any organization and what real difference it makes. > > The fact that there are at least a hundred people from all factions of the > industry who can confirm everything I've said about Nena Cherry pretty much > puts to rest the "rumor" aspect that ousted her from porn and sent her packing > back to an unsuspecting Texas. NENA: NOBODY SENT ME PACKING TO TEXAS, I LEFT ON MY OWN. MY LIFE WAS IN TURMOIL AND I NEEDED TO BE NEAR MY FAMILY, JUST AS YOU MAY IF THE TABLES WERE TURNED. THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR YOUR ATTITUDE WITH ME.

> I just have to wonder just how well informed this alleged husband is about the > nature of condoms and the latex pore size versus virus size. NENA: MY SEX LIFE WITH MY HUSBAND IS NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS . I DID NOT GET PREGNANT WITH A CONDOM, DEAR. > Brandy Alexandre

She's just jealous that Nena's better looking...

> > You really have no sense of decency, do you, Brandy? This latest post says > > more about you than it does about her. You seem to be the only one who cares > > because you can't stand to not have the last word. > > Todd

Brandy Alexandre wrote: >I hear Nena Cherry's been over here whining and lying a little more.

We don't care about her. We care even less about you.

If you f--- like you write, you have no value at all. I suspect that you instigated the whole thing with this Cherry whore to start a bunch of s--- in a newsgroup you were unceremoniously buttf---ed out of last year. Why else would she bring this crap over here, unless you put your sperm-splattered heads together to try and run a game you were unable to handle by yourself? Begone, spunksucker, back to the depths of whatever porno newsgroup that you were sent back to when you didn't make the grade here. Hurry up and die, whore. The world has enough problems, and you ought to do your part to minimize them. . Subject: Stagliano, AIDS, AVN From: p_riley@pipeline.com (Patrick Riley) Date: 1997/03/30 New news on Nena Cherry in that she supposedly contracted the virus in September 1996 and has had seven positive tests and one DNA negative test. Lots of waffle in the section on her but it appears she may have been working up until February while knowing she was HIV+. NENA: I NEVER WORKED IN FEBUARY, I WAS IN HOUSTON.

She says "I never meant to hurt nobody". Leaving aside the probably unintended double negative it appears that the industry was aware something was up long before the news finally broke. Question: If she has been testing HIV+ how has she been working? NENA: I WAS NOT WORKING.

Likely infection cause according to AVN: "her party-hearty lifestyle". No mention of drugs. No mention of quarantine of any performers as stated by Screw.

Subject: Re: Re: Nena Cherry bride to be From: luzdedos@aol.com (LUZDEDOS) Date: 1997/08/10 > wrote: >>>>Congratulations >>>>Who is the father? Who is the husband? NENA: THIS WAS UNCALLED FOR TOO. HE IS THE SAME MAN IM MARRIED TO. > >>I agree, Luke. That was mean of you. >>IRA > >I think you're all giving Luke too much credit for sarcasm because you >can't believe that he could be this dumb. Anxiousness and insecurity >makes one repeat himself - especially when asking a question. >That's the way I read it at first glance. Barbs are not his style. >Besides he must have appreciated Nena. Her prose makes his look >like E.B. White's. > >Richard M (StRichard@aol.com)

Richard is right.

It's comforting to know that certain things remain the same.I've been away from "ninnying on the net" for awhile, what with The Night of the Stars and The Legends of Erotica to deal with, but returned to discover that Ms. Cherry is hopefully embarking on a happy situation, only to also discover that Luke "Edsel" Ford is still up (or perhaps DOWN is the more appropriate term here) to his tragic tricks. Yes, I'm sure that he will start yowling "freedom of speech" but herein he should be aware his expression is FREEDUMB. I was under the impression that the master(baiters) of r.a.m.e. had thought wisely enought to rid the world of the foolish Ford. But since I've also noted weakness in the ranks, perhaps it would serve US all right if Lukatrocious were made a moderator. He seems to have nothing else to do.

God created Man, William Margold created Himself.

LUZDEDOS wrote:

> Unfortunately, my posts have been a major source of pain to Nena Cherry. > I'm sorry for that. Digging into someone's privacy and revealing what you > find is usually a terrible thing. > Nena is about to get married. She has already embarked on a new life. I > truly don't have a clue about how HIV status works or doesn't work. How one > can move from positive or negative...etc... I don't understand that stuff. > I do understand that Nena has gone through a tremendous ordeal, and > overall, seems a stronger and better person. I regret the extent to which I > exacerbated her troubles. I wish her luck with her coming marriage. > > Luke F-rd

Is "usually" a terrible thing? Luke, it's always a terrible thing. People OWN their privacy. You should be ashamed of yourself if you are dipping into private parts of people's lives and putting it out there for your own benefit. Given what happened to Diana last week, I would think all folks who do this preying on stars thing for a living would be rethinking it greatly. Athos NENA: IT WASNT JUST LUKE , ATLEAST HE APOLOGIZED, BRANDY AND MIKE SOUTH HAVE TAKEN THEIR PART IN MY GRIEF.

Subject: Re: Commentary on the Brandy section of Luke's book From: luzdedos@aol.com (LUZDEDOS) Date: 1997/09/23 The author of that note may be wrong, but he represents a commonly held view of Brandy, Bill and Jim, perhaps THE most commonly held view. Whatever my problems with the above persons, I wish them, especially Brandy, nothing but the best. Which leads to my apology to Nena Cherry and my frequent apologies. I believe that my primary job as a writer on porn is to tell the truth. That is my foremost responsibility. In so doing, however, I wound many people. I feel bad about doing that, but it is inevitable. That I apologize and empathize with those I've hurt, does not mean that I necessarily take back what I've written, unless I explicitly take back what I have written. If I presided over a small grocery store and had to lay off or fire a clerk, I might feel bad about it, but still have to do it. I feel bad to the degree I've caused hurt to Brandy, Nena Cherry, etc... I take back those things I've written that are inaccurate. I do not take back those things that are accurate, even if they caused pain. But I still empathize with those I've hurt, even as I continue in an endeavor that will cause more pain to more people. Cheers, Luke F-rd NENA: AS I SAID BEFOR , LUKE I APPRECIATE YOUR GENUINE DISPLAY OF COMPASSION.

Subject: HIV+ Update, het porn industry From: luzdedos1@aol.com (Luzdedos1) Date: 1998/02/13 This seems to be the consensus from sources within the het porn industry.

* Tricia Devereaux was a known IV drug user, NENA: SHE WAS NOT A IV DRUG USER. WHY DO PEOPLE KEEP SAYING THIS ABOUT THE GIRLS IN THE INDUSTRY? SEEMS A LITTLE PECULIAR TO ME. I HAVE SOME FOOD FOR THOUGHT ON THIS ONE LATER

and probably contracted HIV that way, rather than through porn. Though this sounds self-serving, I tend to believe the claim as HIV is difficult for straights to contract. NENA: HIV HAS NO COMPASSION, IT DOES NOT BREED ON CERTAIN VALUES SUCH AS AGE, ETHNIC BACKGROUND, AND DAMN SURE NOT WHAT SEXUAL PREFERENCE YOU ARE. DONT KID YOURSELF. IT CAN HAPPEN TO ANYONE WHO READS THIS.

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Subject: Danyel Cheeks, etc... From: luzdedos@aol.com (LUZDEDOS) Date: 1997/04/23 NENA: THIS IS POSTED ON Luke F-rdS SITE.

Nena Cherry is also known as Nena Anderson. She entered the biz after attending the 1996 CES. "She has short, dark hair and often wears wigs in both blond and brunette styles. She has large breasts, an ample ass and big eyes that bulge when a cock fills her mouth." (AFW 97) Cherry is infamous for her wild ways that include the use of intravenous drug needles. NENA: THIS IS A TOTAL LIE! I WOULD NEVER CROSS THAT LINE, I DONT EVEN KNOW ANY BODY WHO DOES THAT SORT OF THING. I FIND IT TO BE A MAJOR INSULT AND KNOW THAT IF PEOPLE ARE SAYING THIS ABOUT ME THAT THERE IS A HIDDEN MOTIVE. REGARDLESS, MY LIFE IS GREAT! LOOK AT ME!!!

Nena contracted the AIDS virus in September of 1996. NENA: I DID??? THIS IS NEWS TO ME, DO YOU OR ANYBODY HAVE A TEST THAT CAN PROVE THAT I TESTED POSITIVE, I HAVE SOME THAT SAY IM NEAGTIVE. ALSO, HOW DO YOU DETERMINE WHEN ONE ACTUALLY CONTRACTS THE HIV VIRUS? JUST CURIOUS. IT CANT BE DONE.

She tested HIV positive many times while continuing to perform sex on camera until February, 1997. NENA: I WAS NOT WORKING IN FEBUARY , I WAS IN HOUSTON.

"I never meant to hurt anybody," she says. When Cherry finally went public with her status, she named guys such as Mike Horner as having been her sex partners over the previous six months, even though they never had sex with her. NENA: IF YOU HAVE EVER SEEN THE MOVIE I WAS IN WITH MIKE HORNER CALLED '' BEDTIME STORIES'' BY VCA YOU WOULD SEE I WAS WORKING WITH MIKE HORNER AND THEN YOU WILL SEE HOW TRUE THIS ALLEGATION IS. LOOK AT THE PRODUCTION DATE!

All guys named by Cherry were quarantined from the industry for several months.Nena moved to Texas after her HIV results became public to seek treatment. She reportedly married her fiance Dale Weinberg. NENA: I DID NOT MARRY DALE WEINBERG. WHERE DO YOU PEOPLE GET YOUR INFORMATION??? GEE!!! THAT IS NOT MY HUSBAND.

In late April, I received an email from Nena with the heading "You Fu**ing Liar." She denied ever using needles. NENA: I DID NOT HAVE TO DENY, THE TRUTH IS THE TRUTH. I DONT LIKE LIARS.

"I never meant to hurt anybody," says Cherry. "Right now sex is the farthest thing from my mind. This is such a dangerous business. They're playing Russian Roulette. The new girls are like bunny rabbits in the forest. Sex can be a beautiful thing. Why does it have to be so dark and evil?" (AVN) NENA: I DID NOT HURT ANYBODY, I NEVER RAN AWAY AND HID OUT. FOR SOME REASON PEOPLE TRIED TO PAINT ME AS BEING SOME EVIL FIGURE THAT WAS DOING THINGS TO INTENTIONALLY HURT OTHERS, WHEN THE TRUTH IS THAT I DID THE RESPONSIBLE THING AND I MADE ALL THE CALLS TO THE PEOPLE I HAD WORKED WITH, I CALLED THE FREE SPEECH COALITION AND I WENT TO THE DOCTOR WITH DAVE HARDMAN AND BUCK ADAMS. I NEVER ONCE TURNED MY BACK ON ANY CO STAR. I WAS MORE CONCERNED ABOUT THEM , RATHER THAN MYSELF. THAT IS WHO I AM, NOT THIS GARBAGE YOU CAN VIEW IN THE NEWSGROUPS.

During the middle of 1997, Nena poured out her broken heart on the rec.arts.movies.erotica newsgroup. I've cleaned up most of her spelling and grammatical mistakes. Nena and I corresponded via email through 1998. On 2-4-98, she sent me this: "First of all, I have rights, whether it be online, or whatever. I ask of you, even though you claim to be reporting the "notes", or information you have on me in your book that you sell online, and the available information you give on your website per se, to the world wide web. This has been falsified and I have no commitment as a United States Citizen to release anything to anyone regarding my medical status whether it be HIV or Leukemia, much less using IV drugs for recreational purposes.

"I want you to think about it and do the right thing and remove this false information about me, that you do have on your website and in a book that is available to anyone from your website. Can you do that for me?

"I would greatly appreciate to clean up some of the awful rumors or gossip that has been circulating on the Internet. This whole ordeal has been a real tough time for me. I have to come forward and TELL you to help me bring it to a end. The time is now. I have rights, and for a year now I have been violated.

"Luke, let me ask you a question. How would you like it if this happened to you and you had no support in life and had to start all over, much less be insulted and dragged across the coal world wide. I have been humiliated and depressed about my past. I lead a VERY normal life and want nothing but the best for all of us. I'm not a mean spirited person, I never was. I respect people and have a good heart.

"Take the time for once and think about what I had to say tonight, it really is coming from the bottom of my heart."

Attention AOL...Luke F-rd Wednesday, September 03, 1997 10:02 PM Hello my name is Nena Cherry, I have a complaint against one of your users. Im sure Im not the first to complain against this character. His email address is :Luzdedos@aol.com. He has harassed me over the last 6 months with his public lies , stating all kinds of things that are a detriment to my own well being. I ask you to explain to him that his actions are illegal and if he persist I will pursue him in a court of law. If you need to see for yourself what type of lies he has stated publicly about me then you can see for yourself. Just look in the Deja Newsgroups for keywords: Nena Cherry, Luke F-rd, or Lose Luke. He is quite known and not as a nice person. He has caused quite alot of grief in my life and has no proof to the claims he has used against my name and integrity. He has lied and insulted me beyond what I find humane. I have never met him and I want him to leave me alone. I will be meeting with my attorney today and I also have a meeting with the FBI to see what I can do about the entire situation . Please do what you can on your end. I would greatly appreciate it. Sincerely, Nena Cherry

Liar Luke Wednesday, September 03, 1997 7:31 PM I read some of your post and how people really feel about you. I would never trade places with you in a million years. Luke, not only are you a liar, a loser, but you are a user. And to me that is the lowest of them all. You are constantly making up stories and trying to get information to make a name for yourself. Your sources are irrelevant just as you are. You think that by being ``hated`` that you are ``important``. Come on , give me a break. Being hated and being loved are nothing alike. You make yourself look a total idiot saying some of the things you do. I would rather be loved than hated any day. I guess you would not have a clue. I have friends , real friends. Guess you would not know about that either. Well hell, the way you treat people who would want to be your friend? You are a threat to the industry and your mouth is a deep black hole that will end up getting you into trouble. You are going to make one too many enemies one . The choice is your and if you have any smarts at all I suggest you back off or pay the price. You can only hide so long. I dont owe you a damn thing . But you owe me a apology. See, I have a life, I will not be taken down or harmed without the truth . And the truth is that you are creating problems not just for me, but the industry, and yourself. Go bark up someone else's tree. Some one who has no sense because I do and I will not be treated like this in front of the world by you. Have a nice day. Nena Cherry

Luke is that your real name? Wednesday, September 03, 1997 5:55 PM I dont know what bug crawled up your ass and died , but I would like to find out .You must be one hell of a ugly and mean man, and I have had enough of your lies and absolute stupidity to last me a lifetime. The fact of the matter here is that you and I have never meant and when we do will be in a court of law. This has gone on far, and long enough. You just dont know when to quit. You continue to spread rumors about me through those liars in LA, who you know love the fact that Im not there anymore. That is fine by me. But you on the other hand are lying through your little teeth. You want some attention , so I will give you a moment. I am not HIV positive, and I never used needles. Are you ready to have a lawsuit put against you? I have my paper work and I have a attorney and we have discussed your name as well as some others, I also have a private investigator who has done some research on a pending case. You just dont know when to quit. I expect a apology from you today, but even more important keep your BIG mouth shut about things you have no clue about and that is me. I have stated on several occasions my HIV status....Can you read ..NEGATIVE. where have you been? There are post all over Deja. You are liable for slander and I will take you to court. Back off. The past is the past and I am not what or even who you think I am. Im bigger and better then you will ever be. I want a public apology from you! Nena Cherry

Re: The Rabbi Stiffkugel Speaks - HIV scare Friday, February 20, 1998 7:37 AM

> The Rabbi Stiffkugel of course deeply regrets that there is a HIV scare due to > someone with a drug habit coming up with a positive test.

Drug habit? I guess Luke the Puke started this rumor *again*, with Tricia Devereaux. He really has it in for the porn women. It seems every time someone test positive and it be a woman he immediately accuses them of being a IV drug user. He sure seems to claim a great deal of interset on the subject of needles, it would not suprise me if he shoots heroine and has HIV, probably has Herpes too.

The candles have been > lit and are burning. However, with two dozen male performers in "quarantine"

A quarantine? What the hell good is that going to do??Its not a cure and sure the hell does`nt mean a damn thing. Just because you quarantine the group of them doesnt mean that one of them doesnt have it, HIV can be dormant, a person can be a carrier, and be completely asymptomatic. Great, quarantine, that should fix it.

as > reported, it would seem that there will only be lesbian movies for the next six > months UNLESS the industry makes the best of a bad situation and tries out some > fresh male talent for a change.

Yeah, that is a even better idea, get fresh meat so they can become infected too???I feel sorry for the newcummers , they are so vunerable. If they only knew what a snake infested pit they are about to take their pants down and jump into. At first , I may have felt sorry for them, but now it is just plain pittiful.

As the Rabbi has harped before, if we have > Dirty Debutantes, we should have Dick Debuters as well. An ad in any college > paper should produce a mob of horney 18 year olds who would produce some great > entertainment. > /s/ The Rabbi Stiffkugel

Luzdedos Thursday, March 19, 1998 4:47 PM You seem to be a different person these days and I appreciate your display > on humane civilization. > > Nena Cherry > Thanks... I had a long talk with my rabbi today... jeez... i am trying.. :) > Are you going to be on the Nitro Cruise? > I am afraid that I would get thrown overboard. :) Probably so, you should not have burned so many bridges, unfortunately .

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I hope that I did not put you to sleep it is quite lengthy, I know. But that sums up what I have been through during the last 14 months!!! I must be pretty important my business partner tells me, because the way that these people carry on and on about me. I have to admit , even if I had HIV I would not trade places in terms of health with any of these people. This may sound harsh and cruel , its not meant to be that way, I guess you would have to go through what I went through when the whole HIV scare took over my life and was put out on the on the streets like yesterdays old newspapers. I have thought many times , If Brandy or Luke , or Mike South contracted the HIV virus, they may not have been so cold and uncompassionate. They would want people to care and help them through the ordeal, its natural to feel that way . But In a way I wish they would get it, so that they could see how I fel, when they were so hateful. If the tables were turned on any of them, and people did and said the things that they have said to me and about others it would not be so great. Then they could see what it is really like. I can assure you I spent many hours, days, weeks, and cried to the point I thought I was going to die! That is what the pain felt like. I wanted compassion and support, from my so called co stars . I got none. I had to pick myself up from misery, caused by these people and move on. I did! I know a great deal about HIV , I had to learn this thing that was my enemy, people who suffer this awful virus NEED compassion and support. They should never be made to feel alone , like others tried to make me feel. One thing that others may not have known about me is Im a survivor, I have been since an early age. If you kick me when Im down , I fight back, and you are sure to lose. I do things out of the goodness of my heart, this has been a downfall at times. My husband tells me that the so called rich people dont make money in their businesses by being nice, that sometimes you have to walk on people to get what you want. I have always been a nice person, I guess I have to be a little tougher. I am proud of who I am. I went in to do movies, and I did. That was a risk I took, and part of the game so to speak. My career may have a strange ending, some may call a tragic one, but I came out okay. I found a man who was willing to have me as his wife for the rest of my life, and now we have a baby. What more could I ask for ? I always wanted a white picket fence life, and to have a family, now I do. Im very happy. Fact , of the matter is , that when I was in L.A. I was not at all ready to be settled down and be who or even where I am now. I had more living to do, I can even look back and see that what happened to me was a sign , it may have been scary for me and my family, but I came home a have my old life back, this time its better. Hell, if it didnt happen the way it did, I would still be out in L.A. doing movies, and today that is not what I would ever want to do again. I enjoy my website and my fans, very much , I like running my own fanclub. I may feature some where down the line, I dont know for sure. I plan to go on the Nitro Cruise, but not for any other reason than to see some of my fans and be a nice hostess. Thats is it! My husband has been a wonderful influence in my life with my . We are very close and have a very solid marriage

7/18/00

Nena Cherry Body Builder

Nena Cherry writes: In April went from 132 lbs 24% body fat, not wroking out not dieting.

Middle of April lost a lot weight, got down to 117 lbs and 18% body fat. Now, Im 14 % body fat, and weigh 137 lbs. Diet consist of high protein low carbs, very low carbs. Taking anabolic steroids. 200 mg of Deca Durabolin a week, 8 to 12 mg of Winstrol a day, 25 mg but ramping up to 100 mg over 4 weeks of Cytomel, also taking super nutrients, high anti oxidants, etc, etc.

Goals : Body Building competitons in less than a year. Meanwhile swim suit competions , and working out 5 to 6 days a week.

Strength: Bench 135. Leg press over 450 eaily, but having to be careful with joints. All weights initially have increased up to 30+%. Strenth feats are amazing. I out lift several guys at the gym. More pictures to come. Who knows Luke if your good, maybe I will even send you a video tape of the iron rage!