April 24, 2007
Born around 1974, Vivid girl Kira comes a Vietnamese mother and Norwegian father. She measures 32DD-24-38. She stands 5'4" and weights 113lbs.
She has a daughter born circa 1993.
A stripper out of North Carolina, Kener entered porn to boost her income as a "feature dancer."
Kira told adultstarsmagazine.com: "I knew they were a big company and I've seen their girls featuring. And I was wondering what it would be like to be them. But actually right before I left people were telling me horror stories about this business and how they abuse the girls. How the girls have no control and cater to the guys. Then I came out here and met with Steve Hirsch and Marcy Hirsch. They reassured me that it was not anywhere close to what I heard. They pulled out a contract and I signed. Prior to that I had only seen like two clips of Porn. I didn't know really a lot about the business so I said OK. With a lot of things I make a lot of last minute decisions."
Kira claims that her first scenes were for Vivid, in the productions "Nurses" and "Windows".
"Prior to movies I've been used to very small guys and a pretty boring sex life. When I got into that scene he got me off so many times and I was never a "screamer" until I got into movies. Oh my gosh, I didn't know that came out of me. I mean everybody's eyes nearly popped out of their heads it did (laughs). I was so exhausted after that scene. But it was great and it felt good and I never had anything like that in my life. It was wonderful." (ASM)
ScorpionKing writes in February 2006:
January 13, 2007
January 15, 2007
I talk to Kira on the phone.
She's opening a new website kirakenerlive.com.
Kira wanted to correct me on some things I'd posted about her.
Kira: "I have never escorted and I never will."
"That was absolutely ugly what was put on there..."
"It's funny how you'll post anything but you won't check the facts. Some things you check the facts on...but that was blatantly rude and it's pretty slanderous. Considering how somebody tried to use that against me... You don't even realize the damage you've caused."
"Did you even bother to watch the [Vivid reality] show?"
Kira: "I have a copy of it. Savannah Samson did come to my rescue. To say all the Vivid girls hated me, you're wrong. Cheyenne Silver called me not long ago..."
Luke: "Some of the girls disliked you?"
Kira: "Of course. Why do you think Brianna Banks hated me?"
Luke: "I don't know."
Kira: "Because she dated Bobby Vitale right after me. Bobby doesn't say the nicest things about people when he's done dating 'em, especially when he's been kicked out of their house. It even said on the reality show that Brianna dated Kira's ex, when she was sitting there making horrible statements..."
Vivid fired Kira Kener in February 2004.
Kira: "I did ask out of my contract because they were going in a direction I didn't want to go in."
Luke: "Have you made any adult movies since then?"
Kira: "I'm not going to answer that one yet."
"I really hated that comment about hating the fans. I've got so many pictures with my fans. The people who read what you wrote said it was such BS. I've always placed bets with my fans -- if I don't remember something about you, I'll give you something free. That's how I became famous with my fans. That's why my fans loved me and I had the following I did."
Luke: "What did you love and hate about your time in the Adult industry?"
Kira: "I liked doing the movies. I liked the sex. That was my sex life. Things I hated, you're supposed to become a yes person. I don't like being forced into doing things I don't want to do. The biggest thing I hated was people talking about me. They dubbed me 'the bitch of porn.' The reasons that they did that -- I'm ok with because for me to refuse to work without my test, I'm ok with that.
"There have been several occasions... When you're used to working with certain production managers and then they switch out and you work with a new one, and you're used to working with the old one, the new one doesn't know what the old one does. For instance, the old one picked up your test. The newer production manager didn't know that and yes, I shut the set down because I wasn't going to work without my test.
"There were times when I was told, 'I saw your test.' Someone is going to be there at 11 p.m. and they saw my test? Come on. I'm not going to take someone's verbal answer unless it came from AIM."
Luke: "Do you think the industry was doing everything it could to keep people healthy?"
Luke: "How often were you pushed to do things you didn't want to do?"
Kira: "In all fairness, producers and directors are supposed to get all they can out of you, but the only thing that comes to mind that just pisses me off was trying to get me to work without my test. At one time I was asked, 'Do you really think you have something?' I said, 'What? Because I have a Vivid girl label, I'm immune to everything?'"
Rich emails me Dec. 6, 2006: "Hey Luke: Do you know anything about a lawsuit involving former Vivid Contract Girl Kira Kener vs Vivid Video? Time to do some investigating, maybe the LA County Court website has some info?"
The case number is BC 337262.
I asked Kira Kener for comment on her lawsuit and she repeatedly replied, "No comment."
So we talked about her life and career instead. I found out she likes older men with beer bellies and salt and pepper hair.
Tim Case emails:
From page six to eight of the complaint:
I would love to hear from attorneys about this case.
Kira's attorney is the feared Marty Singer.
Kener says that Vivid began heading in a different direction in 2003. "They were trying to become like Jenna -- a household name. They wanted to be everywhere. Back in the day, they didn't advertise like they do now. There's the reality show, the book, putting girls in magazines.
"I only wanted to be at that Shannon Tweed level. She has her own section at Blockbuster. She's well known but not too well known so that she has to give up all her privacy, until her reality series with Gene Simmons.
"At the time of the Vivid reality series, I had a peeping tom. They wanted me to allow the reality people to film me at my house. There are some things I want private."
"I am intrigued by fans. No matter what your fetish, I'm not going to judge you. I want to see the world through your eyes."
Luke: "How has being a stripper and a sex star affected your relationships with other people?"
Kira: "That's hard. It's hard for me to take people seriously. When guys approach me and say they want to go out with me... As Ginger Lynn said, 'You don't know whether it is you they want or your alter ego, the person they see on screen.'
"I am more cautious and picky.
"Bobby Vitale told me a long time ago that the industry will change everybody around you. I didn't think it was true but people do act different. My friends have become more possessive and protective of me."
"It's hard to find a guy who's going to look past the porn star image. There are a lot of people who can't deal with that."
Kira was with Brad Armstrong, on and off, for about a year.
"I want someone I can learn from. Learning about business is a turn-on. Someone who can go on the basketball court with me, an even bigger turn-on."
Luke: "What do you do in your spare time?"
Kira: "Design clothes. Play basketball. I get involved in projects with other people. They bring me in to help them with projects they are presenting. I'm a lot smarter than people give me credit for -- coming up with advertising campaigns, with clothing designs, ideas for magazines..."
"I'm not the kind of person who wants to go clubbing all the time and do drugs. I never wanted to become that alter-ego 24/7."
"There's been a tremendous amount of talk about me that's just not true. It's been hard to deal with. I walked away being OK with being labeled the bitch of porn."
"Did you ever see that Al Pacino - Robert DeNiro movie Heat? That's what runs through my head when someone approaches me about escorting."
"In my personal life, I tend to find the guys with the small weewee. The guys on set tend to have bigger ones and to last longer. They know what they're doing.
"I go through long periods without having a sex. A year or so..."
"There was only one major company I would've loved to have gotten into movies with -- [Digital Sin]. Do they still make those My Playthings? That was one I wanted to do more than anything. Digital Playground was someone I wanted to work with. With Vivid, I was supplying my own wardrobe. Wicked takes pride in their make-up and wardrobe. With Vivid, you had to request a make-up artist. When Vivid supplied my wardrobe, it was ten times too big for me. It was awful. Some of Vivid's directors just wanted to get the movie shot. Others cared about making something decent. I look at the quality of Digital Playground and I was just blown away with how beautiful it was. And look at the way they market their girls..."
"Devon and Alex Taylor came in at the same time and they got more PR than me and Veronica."
"I signed my contract with Vivid in October of 1998 but didn't start filming until October 1999."
Luke: "You know that Digital Playgroun and Digital Sin would kill to shoot you today."
Kira: "I highly doubt that. There's a reputation out there that I'm a troublemaker."
"I remember one set I had extremely bad allergies. If you saw
the behind the scenes, you could hear me gagging. I said, 'You just
don't realize that I am allergic to this tree that you want me to do
a blowjob in front of.'"
"There was one time when I was overworked and scared of crowds. I told Steven Hirsch that I needed one week to rest. I hadn't been sleeping. I had been shooting movies and featuring...and he said, 'CES is coming up. You have to make it through it.'
"I said, 'I need someone to stand beside me.' A lot of the fans feel that they have the right to pick you up. 'Here, let me have you pose in the flying V.' 'Here, let me do this to you.' 'Here, let me grab you and do this.'
"I wasn't OK with that at the time. When you're on a photo shoot, you have people pulling on you all the time and you get overworked."
"I've always looked up to people who can look in the mirror and say, 'God, I'm hot.' I've never been able to look in the mirror and say that. I've always looked at other people and thought, 'Why can't I look like that?' I've always thought Chasey Lain is one of the most beautiful women who ever did porn. I've always wanted to look like her. G.K. Jordan aka Katie Price. The UK version of Pamela Anderson. She's my version of beautiful."
Luke: Do you encounter men who try to manipulate your insecurities?
Kira: "The last person I dated did that. He was outside the industry. He was awful but I cut him out quick. He did that whole, 'Just because you're a porn star, you think you belong on a pedastal?'
"Brad Armstrong and Bobby Vitale did the opposite. They built me up."
Luke: "Have you always had high self-esteem?"
Kira: "I know what I'm capable of."
Luke: "What are you proudest about?"
Kira: "Standing my ground."
Luke: "How was your [February 1999] shoot with Earl Miller?"
Kira: "He was very professional. I cried right after because it was my first shoot and I didn't want to be photographed in that way. I just felt stupid. I was standing there with my ass cheeks spread wide open and my head in the couch and everybody's eating peanuts and talking about the game waiting for the Polaroid to develop. I felt like the biggest bimbo. But I understand it now."
Luke: "When did you get the breast job?"
Kira: "Nineteen ninety seven. I had to have several because I got scar tissue. I was a 32DD before the breast job and I'm still a 32DD. I wanted to fill them out more. The only thing I regret is having the scar tissue."
Luke: "How did your parents react to your becoming a stripper and a porn star?"
Kira: "They didn't find out until 2003. My parents have always been supportive no matter what so long as I'm not hurting anybody or breaking the law."
Luke: "How would your closest friends describe you?"
Kira: "They look up to me because I stand up for the things I believe in. I don't take sides. They say I have deplorable taste in men. That's true. I should stop taking on projects. I always feel that I can fix people. I like helping people. I've always been involved in charities."
"I used to say that I'd never turn 30. I'd kill myself off. But I met a girl who said that once she turned 30, she loved everything about herself. I love getting older. You're comfortable with yourself. You've accepted yourself. You have a different outlook on life."
"When I go to Vegas, I do love the slot machines, though I do limit myself."
"I put a lot of money behind things I strongly believe in."
I suspect she refers to her lawsuit against Vivid.
Luke: "How many times have you heard, 'You're too beautiful for porn'?"
Kira: "How many girls hear that? Come on now. I loved my job. I wanted to do better quality movies."
Luke: "Why don't you do real movies?"
Kira: "I got offered some movies but I didn't feel like my acting was good enough. I wasn't ready. I didn't want my mainstream debut to be a flop. I didn't grasp acting until I did the movie 20 Candles."
Luke: "Why not take acting classes?"
Kira: "I don't live in L.A. Paul Thomas helped me with that when I was on set.
"I had a run-in with one agent. That was every bit the stereotypical agent. He sent me out on a couple of readings. Then, afterwards, I had dinner with him. He's like, 'So I sent you on this audition, why don't you give me a lap dance?' Excuse me. 'OK, we'll just be friends. Why don't you just find a girl where I can lick coke off her nipples?' I said, 'I'm going to call security in about two seconds.' He said, 'Why don't I show you what you're missing?' I said, 'You are out of your mind.'
"This was at a hotel in front of other people.
"I ran into him at another club partying... He was like, 'Are
you ready for more auditions?' I said, 'Yes.'"
Luke: "When you add up everything you've gained in the adult industry and subtract everything you lost, do you come out ahead?"
Kira gives a bitter laugh. "You can't ask me that question right now."
Brett emails: "Fred wonders why Vivid doesn't compel arbitration pursuant to an arbitration clause in the contract. Two reasons why they can't: One, the lawsuit is for more than just damages resulting from a breach of the employment/artist's agreement, and the claims that do not arise out of the artist agreement (website revenue damages, trademark issues, right of publicity) would not necessarily be subject to the arbitration clause; and Two, if Vivid wanted to compel arbitration, it should have filed a petition upon receipt of the original complaint or, at the latest, filed a petition to compel arbitration simultaneously with its answer to the complaint, pursuant to California Code of Civil Procedure section 1281.5(c)."
April 10, 2007