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4/1/99

Porner Rob Spallone left these messages on Luke's answer machine Friday night:

"Luke, I need you to call me Monday morning. Your friend Reb [Sawitz of Pretty Girl International, 323-882-8262] is nothing but a piece of s---. And Luke, I don't want to hear that your his friend and you don't want to write anything bad about this guy. He has over 18 people living at this s--- hole. He makes these girls do a scene a week to live at his roach infested house [in North Hollywood]."

James DiGiorgio in the background: "That's like f---ing indentured servitude."

Rob: "Listen to me. I have a girl [Cherry Poppins], I'm not going to mention her name, and she's crying. This is your friend? And Luke you better print this s---. If you don't, I'm going to send the Health Department up there, and the police."

Cherry and DiGiorgio sat beside Rob while he phoned Friday night. James says he was next to Rob during this whole sorry episode and he backs up Spallone's version of events.

Luke talked to an angry Reb Sawitz Wednesday at 1PM:

Reb: "I'm sitting here steaming about it. My attorney called me about it and I was out. I might just shut you down this time, Luke. You don't bother checking on nothing. That girl came to my house because she had nowhere else to go. She was dropped on me. They brought her in at 10PM. All her stuff, lock stock and barrel. I told her that I had no room for her. She left the next day on a job and we've never seen her again. That sure doesn't sound like the story you have on your site."

Luke reads Reb what Rob said.

Reb: "That's what you put on and you didn't bother checking it. Again."

Luke: "It's just a rant, Reb."

Reb: "And you're putting it in print. And my friends are calling me and saying, 'what kind of asshole is this?' Now, if it's not off there in the next hour, I'm going to file against you. And it's not freedom of speech, it's defamation of character. And you know it. We're supposed to be friends and you put this s--- on there. I'm the only one who doesn't give you a bunch of crap. I've befriended you right on through and all you've done is f--- over me. Isn't that right?"

Luke: "I'm sorry that I've annoyed you."

Reb: "Annoyed me? You've offended me and lied about me."

Luke: "I simply printed what Rob said."

Reb: "Without checking on it? It was a lie. That's defamation of character. And my family plus one person is living at my house. My daughter is standing here right now. You better get it off the site and get it off fast or you better have plenty of money to fight with an attorney. You should know better than f---ing around with Spallone to begin with."

Luke: "Isn't it better to let people bury themselves with their own words?"

Reb: "You're burying yourself, Luke. That's your site. It's all second hand information and you're putting it on there without verification. You let him rant and rave and you put it on as if it was gospel after me telling you before not to do that. That girl's stuff has been sitting at my house for two weeks. I don't even know what she looks like. How's that? And you turn around and put s--- on there about me. Get it off there or you're going to have a lawsuit on your hands. Do you hear me? I'm serious. And you can go stay with f---ing Spallone, you're an asshole."

Reb hangs up.

Here are Rob Spallone's other messages Friday night about talent agent Reb Sawitz.

Rob: "Luke Duke, I'm still mad. He's supposed to be an agent. He ain't an agent. He's a f---ing child molesting cocksucker. If you don't f---ing print it, you're done, Luke. I ain't talking to you no more. I don't care if he's your friend. That could be your daughter or your sister. The girl needs a place to stay. He's supposed to be an agent. He gets paid when she works. Not, 'Come stay at my f---ing filthy dirty place filled with roaches. You can't use the shower and you've got to do a f---ing scene a week.' I'm so aggravated right now. The poor girl was crying. Take care of this, Luke."

Rob: "Luke, it's f---ing slavery what they do up there. Telling the girl she has to do a scene a week. You know what that is? A pretty girl like that gets $600 a scene. Charging her $2400 a month to sleep on the floor with cockroaches. And one bathroom with 18 people. Print this f---ing s---, Luke. I'm aggravated."

Luke talked to Rob Spallone at 1:30 PM, Wednesday.

Rob: "Everybody I spoke to couldn't believe it. I told everybody. They said it is disgusting what he's doing. That's how he makes his living. He doesn't make his living off being a talent agent."

Luke: "He says that only his family and one other person lives there."

Rob: "Oh yeah. Do you want to interview the girl?"

Luke: "Yes. He's threatening to sue me."

Rob: "Good, I'll go to court and testify with the girl and everybody else. Put down that the girl came to us crying, with Ron Sullivan. And told us in front of 15 people what he did to her.

"She had a pillow case with some stuff in it [when she went to Reb's]. That was it. She's staying at my [shooting] house now... I don't make this stuff up Luke."

Rob phoned back at 2PM: "Luke, I've got Jeff Meeks standing here [the husband of porn girl Randee Lee].

"I met Ron Sullivan over at Jim South's. He introduced me to this little girl [Cherry Poppins]. He said that she needed a place to stay. Then he brought her up to my house with her one little bag. He lent her a bicycle. She stayed a few days and got her own place.

"Ron told me that she [Cherry Poppins] stayed at Bryan Williams place for a week. He [Bryan] brought her over to Reb's and left her there. She said there were 18 people on the floor, cockroaches, one bathroom and they told her that she had to do a scene a week for free to stay there. She went over to Jim South's the next day crying. Ron Sullivan brought her to me. Jeff Meeks is standing right here. He says there's tons of people there [Reb's house] and that he's full of s---."

Jeff: "There's always been a bunch of people staying there [Reb's house]. He's got a big house and he lets a lot of chicks flop there. Harley Rayne said that she had to leave because she was doing too much speed over there, so she came to live with us. All they do is drugs."

Rob: "All they do is drugs. He's not an agent. He runs a flophouse, drughouse piece of s---. His office stinks, I hear. I've never been there. It smells of piss."

Cherry Poppins left this message on my answering service at 7:30 Wednesday night: "Rob said some really horrible things about Reb and these people that let me stay there for one night. I had no idea that you would print such things. Those are not true, they are rumors. They are very accusatory and very mean rumors. I really don't appreciate it and I'm sure neither do the people who live here. So please print that it is a rumor and nothing else."

Mike South: "My ex girlfriend OnyX told me essentially the same thing, that Reb had lots of people living there, there were lots of drugs and that Reb wanted free scenes in exchange for the people living there. OnyX didn't live there. Combined with recent stories out of Austin TX about the girl who spoke with "Jordan" at Reb's office and MY personal experiences with Reb, I'd say he is bad news. Does Reb have a dog named Jordan?

"As for Reb's threats of suing you, I suggest he watch the movie "Absence of Malice" with Paul Newman and Sally Fields so that he might get a three dollar education on libel and defamation suits. You have heard these threats before from similar morons.

"While you are at it do us all a favor and tell us which video series Reb puts
these scenes are in so that we may all avoid it."

Luke talked to five foot black girl Tori Coca Flame (now registered with Regan Senter, 310-207-2534) at 2:45 PM. I heard that Reb had made her suck his dick a couple of times and then never got her work.

Tori: "I was in World Luckiest Man, the 101 girl gangbang by Mr. Marcus for Vivid.

"The first time I went [several months ago to Reb Sawitz's talent agency Pretty Girl International], I had my photos taken and we did the whole thing [gave Reb oral sex], I called back the next day and he said that he had lost my pictures. So I had to come back and do the whole thing all over again.

"So I did Mr. Marcus' 101... And I called him a month later and asked him if there was anything going on. And he said, 'who are you?'

"I said, 'Coca.' He said, 'Oh, I don't recall. Let me look through my files.' He gets his secretary to go through his files but I am nowhere to be found. So he wants me to come back down there again to take pictures, and give him another blow job. Three strikes and you're out!"

Tori, 32 yo, entered porn in April of 1998. She's appeared in 23 videos.

Luke: "What do you think is your best work?"

Tori: "I don't know. I don't even watch the things. I don't even own a VCR. But, I'd say Anal Pool Party 2 for Jim Powers at Notorious. Kira, Obsession, Champagne, Byron Long, Weed..."

Flame stands 5'1", weighs 110 pounds with small breasts. She measures 32A-23-36. "I work a lot for Jim Lane, as well as Jim Malibu, Zane, Samurai, Metro, Extreme... I was a fluff girl for the Houston 500. It's been up and down for me. Right now it's down. I wish it was up because I need some money.

"The Houston 500 was interesting. It was weird meeting people in reverse. You're sucking their dick and then you look up and there's a face attached. Hi, how are you doing? It was weird.

"Yeah, I did the normal  [sex] with Regan [Senter].

"I can't understand how some people can get into the adult entertainment business and act like they're an angel. Oh, I don't do this. Oh, I don't do that. Oh, no, I don't want to do him. Get off your high horse. You know what it is all about, so come in with a good attitude, do your job and all will be well. If you go into this, you have to set aside your hangups before you take the oath of valor..."

Luke listens to a baby in the background playing a toy that repeats the tune "Oh Susannah, won't you wait for me."

Tori: "The other thing is, you can never say 'I'm going to have X amount of dollars this month because it is always up and down. Some people work constantly. I'm busting my ass and I can't even get a job. It sucks to sit around the house waiting for a call.

"These people tell you to call them on Tuesday. You call them and they say call me Wednesday. Then you call them Wednesday and they say call me Thursday... It irks the s--- out of me. I'm from the East Coast. I'm cut and dry. f--- yeah, I'm going to use you or no, I'm not. Don't keep me on a string and keep tugging me like a dog.

"My daughter is back there cracking up, now that she's got some attention. She's jumping up and down. I have six kids. It makes you think that I like to f---, huh? On camera, off camera, what the hell. I lost my virginity at age 17 and had my first kid at 21. Throughout my 20s, I had the same toenail polish on because I was always too f---ing pregnant to bend over... The father of my first three died in a car accident. They live with my mother in New Jersey and they're coming out for summer vacation. One is with his dad and the other two are here.

"When I was getting ready to come out here [from New Jersey], my mother said, 'please, keep the kids here.' I'm an only child. My mother is an only child. And her mother is an only child. I was the first one in four generations to have a boy who survived. So I had to be the one to spit out the children. I've had all my kids now. I'm not having anymore. I don't give a damn if the dick is gold with a diamond tip.

"Now I can just enjoy life and do what I want to do. This is something that I've always wanted to do. I remember when I was younger, my mother had this book called "Sex in Marriage." A black book with white letters. They had some cool color photos of people having sex. Whooh, it was cool. Ever since then I've had this thing about doing it. She never knew that I saw it. In fact, she still has it."

Luke: "How many guys have you f---ed?"

Tori: "f--- man, I can't count that many. I remember when I worked phone sex for USID at 6565 Sunset Bl.. And I was writing down everybody I had screwed. And at that time I was up to 125. Now I'm sure it has 250-300."

Luke: "You've made a lot of guys happy."

Tori: "That's my job. Everybody needs to have a smile on their face. At the Houston 500, I said 'My motto is that every dick will be sucked. Hold on to your nuts, here I come.'"

4/2/99

The 18-year old? girl, Cherry Poppins, in the middle of the Rob Spallone - Reb Sawitz  (talent agent at Pretty Girl International) feud, left this message on my answering service at 7:30 Wednesday night: "Rob said some really horrible things about Reb and these people that let me stay there for one night. I had no idea that you would print such things. Those are not true, they are rumors. They are very accusatory and very mean rumors. I really don't appreciate it and I'm sure neither do the people who live here. So please print that it is a rumor and nothing else."

Late Thursday night, director James DiGiorio phoned to back up Rob's version of events. Luke was off celebrating Passover from Wednesday evening to Thursday night.

Luke received this email: "What are you doing? Reb is suppose to be your friend. You know Reb better than that. Reb is a good person. He lets people into his home, out of the kindness of his heart. And what do they do? Lie out of their ass, and for what? I don't see how you can lisen to those liying bitches, and betray your friendship with Reb. I know Reb is a good
person, and he doesn't deserve this s--- from anyone."

Blake Leigh, husband of porn girl Heaven Leigh, writes: "Cherry Poppins has played some of the main players in porn today. She used each one of you to get her name all over the business. It seems alittle funny someone new in the business knew who to play and who not to. Maybe Luke should find out who she is working for or had her do this. She used Reb then talked s---
about him to Rob (and anyone that reads this site knows there is no love between them two) then you throw in Jim South and Luke and Gene Ross and Mr. Margold, I would say this little girl did her job. Or maybe she figured it all out like they say " bad publicity is better then no
publicity."

"I know Rob and Jim pretty good and would have to say they are telling the truth what she said to them that night. I guess the question to ask now is WHY? and who is this guy that showed up out of the blue and took her in. And now she is embarrassed for it all? Guys she played you all like a fiddle and is sitting back and watching it all unfold right here on www.l-keford.com and www.geneross.com."

Director James DiGiorgio wrote www.geneross.com: "None of these events were concocted or fabricated by Rob. I was there, and heard every word the girl said. I questioned her about it myself. There's no embellishment here, there's no added dialogue, it's exactly what the girl said. Anyone thinks I'm lying about this can go f--- themselves....anyone.

"Next, this girl, Cherry, was not stoned or f---ed up in any way that I could observe (in spite of what Mitch says). She seemed grateful to find a place to stay. The whole conversation took place because I had heard someone say she was homeless, and I asked her how she came to be that way. Her story began when she was fourteen (she's now 18), and left home because her father was showing her some very unfatherly attention. The story continued through dancing in Florida, hooking up with Brian Williams, ending up at Reb's, then Ron's, then Rob's. The details of her story are on both your's and Luke's site, and again, nothing is fabricated (in terms of what she actually said). Luke doesn't have the imagination to make this s--- up, your giving him too much credit when it's assumed that that's what he does.

"By the way, Reb. Get a f---ing grip with the Rob being a strapped, NY thug s---. If you knew anything at all about Rob, you'd know her prefers a bat (36oz Louisville Slugger), and sometimes a golf club--to a piece.

"And how'd this girl end up calling Bill Margold or Luke F-rd? She knows no one, and had no idea who Luke F-rd was/is during or after Rob's phone calls. I can't imagine her knowing who Bill Margold is---surely she didn't have his phone number. So who helped her out making those phone calls? And who has influenced her to recant her story? If this girl was lying, then I definitely want to hire her for some of my features...she's a pretty good actress! In fact, I got the impression she was surprised to hear that doing free scenes in exchange for a place to stay (s---hole or otherwise) was anything but normal for this biz. She seemed a bit bewildered that Rob and I would go off over a situation like that. She did seem a bit nervous about it, but we assured her that she was in no trouble or danger for telling us. But now that she's denying what she said, maybe someone has convinced her otherwise."

Luke F-rd called www.geneross.com to say that he was celebrating Passover yesterday, and, hence, didn't get back to us for comment on the Cherry Poppins story. "Happy Good Friday to you," Ford said. "I looked at the story [on geneross.com]. It was interesting."

Ford: "I think it's another typical Luke F-rd story where he takes a rant from someone, particularly Rob Spallone, and creates a big brouhaha. I think on my ethics' rankings, I've given Reb the highest ranking of any talent agent in the business. I think, compared to his peers, he's a man of integrity. That's my perception of him. I've always had a good relationship with him. I was sorry that he was upset. One think that caught my attention was a remark from Jerry [from the geneross story] where she said I don't like my family being attacked. I don't remember anyone attacking her children or grandchildren. Or even Jerry. Jerry's got a pretty good reputation, too, from what I understand. I think this is another example of how the porn industry attracts lost souls and self-destructive types."

Ford said he picked up a message from his voice mail Wednesday night from Cherry Poppins. "She said she didn't say any of the horrible things to Rob about Reb," Ford states. "And she said that she embarrassed about the horrible things Rob said about Reb."

Ford said he got home last night and talked to James DiGiorgio. "He called and said he was with Rob when Cherry spoke to him," Ford recalls. "Cherry was sitting next to Rob when Rob left the five angry messages on my answering machine [last] Friday night which started the whole thing. He's always giving me a lot of rants about Reb, and I've almost always refused to run them because I thought it was too over the top and unfair. This time I ran a few lines from one of his [Spallone's] phone calls.

"I thought it was pretty funny and fairly harmless," Ford added. "But then it totally mushroomed out of control. I didn't hear any protests from Cherry when Rob left those messages. James said he was also there when Cherry Poppins first came to Rob and told him her story. He basically backs up Rob's version but doesn't offer the colorful language that Rob does. I think you know more about this than I do."

Adult Video News has been covering the story on www.geneross.com:

Two days ago, nobody knew Cherry Poppins from Mary Poppins or poppin' fresh dough. Now she's the most talked-about girl in the adult business. Poppins is in the middle of a brouhaha involving Luke F-rd, agent Reb Sawitz and producer Rob Spallone. It's a tawdry tale of alleged squalor, sexual servitude and wild accusations on Ford's site that Sawitz was requiring Poppins to do sex scenes in exchange for lurid living conditions.

Rob Spallone: "Reb and this Luke F-rd are buddies. Luke don't print nothing about Reb, as much as I wanted him to, he never did."

Bill Margold: "Everything Luke's doing right now is simply competition with you, Gene. With the Spallone-South war out of the way, he's desperately in need of creating more trouble and finding new targets. I'm not altogether sure that Spallone feeds him a lot of that information. I think he makes it up on his own... I haven't read any of this stuff that Luke was putting up about supposed cockroaches. Quite frankly I don't care. The only time I deal with Luke is at Las Vegas. Neutral territory. My people tell me to stay away from him. I helped create the sonofabitch, and I wish I hadn't. But the problem is, in the giant analogy, he's too big to kill. Once upon a time, we could have crushed him. Now it's way too late. He'd have to destroy himself. The thing is the more attention you pay to him, the better off he gets. The only way he dries up and goes away is if you don't water him with insults.

"Then she [Poppins] called Ford Wednesday night and started blasting him. But that's feeding Ford's fever, basically. He'll twist it around. He has nothing to lose. He's absolutely unsueable. The thing is let him destroy himself. Hell, he's turned against himself already, anyway. He hates himself more than anyone else in this whole business. I give him nothing at this point because there's no reason to. He's a fad. He will burn out because he's going to run out of things to attack. If we're going to complain about how this industry is operated - we live in a gutter; everyone of us floats in a gutter. We shouldn't take on airs of pretension. When you let Luke know he's touched a nerve, he'll drill all of your teeth without novocaine.

"Ford likes hurting people. He thrives on it. Indicative of that was that show on Fox Files. He doesn't like this business. He has no use for this industry. The body bags statement alone, God knows where that came from. It may have been something I gave him a long time ago. Sure we have people who die, but if you look on his website, you have people that he doesn't know how they died; and he has people who he thinks are dead that aren't even dead. He has anyone he wants, dead, because who's going to challenge him? Who's going to take him on? If you take him on, you climb down to his level. Frankly, Gene, you're now in competition with him, and you know that. You're simply putting your mud through a strainer."

Director Ron Sullivan: "Luke F-rd has reared his ugly head to once again stir up unwanted, unnecessary s---. Three years ago he interviewed me. He understood and heard that I was very much involved with organized crime. A member of the Mafia. I looked at him and said, 'Do you think I'm in the Mafia?' [Sullivan has a belly laugh.] I'm not, obviously." (Quoted from www.geneross.com)