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Kiki Dare writes: I simply wish to say that as one of the Camp Erotica girls that have endlessly been criticized for being unattractive, obviously these guys see something worth looking at. If they didn't there wouldn't bee all these emails. I have worked for top companies and lesser companies and have been in many magazines. Camp Erotica is not about the huge boobed, blonde, anorexic, fake scenes that seem to be a standard. Camp Erotica is about people having the balls to try a new approach. If that makes me and my coworkers unattractive, then so be it.

Ariel writes: Luke, I just wanted to respond to some of the horrible things that were said about the girls from Camp Erotica. I happen to be one of the girls, and i must admit that the photos that you have online are absolutely horrible..The lighting wasnt good at all. Although i feel that i should have the right to redeem myself to my public..I am enclosing a few pictures of myself just to show that i really am not a "swamp thing" as your readers have said. I would appreciate it if you would publish these on your site. I've worked with MadJack on many occassions and he can verify that those pics on the mondo sites are not accurate at all. And yes i have also worked worked for Vivid Video, for those who said that wasnt possible.

Mad Jack: "Ariel is cute. Those guys were hammering the girls. That's bulls---...

"Those were just bad shots. I think those guys at Mondo were f---ing idiots. I don't think they know how to shoot. They look like bikers trying to make movies. I remember their bulls--- with Mila.

"Hardman said it was a cool shoot. He called me on the way back from Temecula. He had one of those broads, Ricki Lixx, in the car and they had all kinds of problems. They ended up dumping her out. She was acting weird..."

Brian writes: Lukey: I retract my statement that all the girls from Swamp Thing are UGLY. Ariel is quite cute....I can't believe a porn company would promote a video with such s---ty pictures as Ariel points out.

Luke: I conducted a long interview with Ariel by phone Thursday.

Luke: "How did you get into the industry?"

Ariel: "About three years ago... I was a dancer in Fresno, where I live now. I moved to Los Angeles and started working as a dancer at the Body Shop in Hollywood. I started working there just before all the Heidi Fleiss stuff started. I was approached by one of her recruits to work with them. I went down to her house and spoke to her.

"While I was there, there were a couple of adult producers (including Luc Wylder) there. I figured I'd be less likely to get arrested working in the adult industry than working for her."

Luke: "Did you work for Heidi Fleiss?"

Ariel: "I did a couple of private shows for her clientelle in Beverly Hills.

"I did my first adult movie for Urbano Martin. It was a good experience. I was nervous at first. My first scene was with Guy DeSilva. He was wonderful. The movie was done at a house. It was catered. It was well organized. It made me feel very comfortable. I've always been a very sexual person."

Luke: "How many people had you slept with in your life before you got into the adult industry?"

Ariel: "Not too many. I had quite a few longterm relationships. I'd say five at the most."

Luke: "And how many movies have you done?"

Ariel: "Upwards of 200."

Luke: "Did you go register with Jim South after your first shoot?"

Ariel: "Yes, after that I registered with Jim. I had been referred to some of the other agents in town, like [Regan Senter's] Beautiful Models, Reb... I was not comfortable with the situation. I did not feel that it was necessary to do any kind of couch call to work. They [Reb and Regan] epitomized the sleazy greasy porn life.

"I spoke to Jim and he got me working right away."

Luke: "And have you had a good experience with Jim South over the years?"

Ariel: "Yes. It's been difficult for him to get me a lot of work because I'm up in Fresno. But he calls me at least once a week to let me know if there's a casting call. He definitely pushes me as far as the books and the email pictures. He does what he can. It's difficult if someone calls and needs somebody right now, I'm two-and-a-half hours away... I have nothing but good things to say about him and his office."

Luke: "Have you encountered the casting couch routine with many of the producers?"

Ariel: "I've had a couple who've tried to pull that. Only one (Shawn Ricks) was at Jim's office and when I told him (Jim) about it, he took care of the situation. Regan Senter was the one who insisted that for him to get me work, he'd have to see how I worked onscreen with him. And that was not going to happen.

"Then with Leisure Time... Kid Sparkle wanted a freebie beforehand. And Kid Vegas tried to pull the same thing on me... I was at another shoot. He'd gotten my number from somebody else and he wanted me to come down and you know show him what I had. I said if that is what you're looking for there is no reason for me to even go down there. And I didn't.

"I've had maybe two other bad experiences in the industry. Aside from that, everything has been great.

"Recently I ran into a situation with a gentleman named Jeff Scott. He really rolled me a good one. Around Easter, he was supposedly shooting for Metro. I came to find out that that was not true. I guess he'd contacted my friend Tony Everready to say that he needed some girls for Easter weekend. He wanted to book me for five days. I gave him my rate and he was fine with it.

"He told me to get the rental car. I got it. He told me to bring him the rental receipts... Don't worry about. This progressed for a week-and-a-half and nothing ever came through... He used Tony Eveready too. And Tony finally got fed up, don't even bother calling me. Don't ask me for any favors. I'm done with you. That's it.

"He did use a couple of girls that Tony sent him and the checks he wrote were bad. So now it is impossible to get in contact with this guy... I told Jim South... Jim pulled his back out and wasn't in the office for a while. He wasn't getting back to anybody who'd called... When I finally got a hold of Jim and told him what was going on, I guess this gentleman was somebody who'd been talent with Jim. And he wasn't up to par, couldn't keep wood. So he went off to try to shoot his own. So that was the worst experience I've had.

"Then I did this fetish film with a girlfriend in the industry, Dalles DeNiro. We had done a fetish shoot that just supposed to be bondage and some light spanking... I don't do anything harder than that because if I get hurt, then it is hard for me to work. Well, when I got on the set, I found out that they wanted flogging and to seriously hit my pussy really hit. I'm like, no, I'm sorry. And he gave me a hard time and Jim had to intervene and get the money from him.

"I had a bad experience with a photographer in Las Vegas, Alex Hunter. He told me he wanted me for some solo photography, maybe a few girl-girl photos. When I got there, he had a girl he wanted me to do a girl-girl video with, who didn't have a DNA test. The dildos he had were not clean. I told him no. You want to pay me $400 for this. First of all, she doesn't have a test. Second, I am not using something that somebody else has used and has not been properly sterilized. I have a reputation to protect and I am not going to do it. Even though I had gone to Vegas basically for him.

"I've had no problems with anybody else, as far as pay and the way they've treated me..."

Ariel was sometimes known as Ariel Cassidine.

Luke: "Tell me about your experiences with Mondo Family Films."

Ariel: "As far as the crew, absolutely adorable. I can't say enough good things about them. As far as their films..."

Ariel laughs.

Ariel: "When I did the Bride of Countess Recula, I was only there for my scenes. I was never around to see anything else. So when I actually saw the movie, just a couple of weeks ago, I was astonished at the things that had been put into the movie that I was unaware of... Not to mention the lighting which made everybody look so hideous. They want to do things very different and out of the ordinary but they don't put any effort into the lighting and to make people look like humans.

"They're wonderful people but it tends to lower my standards. This last thing, Camp Erotica, I've known about since Recula. Terry wanted me from the get go. He's always loved me. The thing is, they usually don't use a lot of top named people and this last one, oh my god, ok, I've driven six hours, what am I going to do? I don't want to let them down or disappoint them. I show up and the entire cast was made up of, oh god, it was not the best looking cast I've ever seen, to say the least.

"I had to drive six hours, not knowing where I was going, was irritating. Then to see the pictures and to see how badly the lighting was yet again. Everything was done with just the natural light, and there were so many trees in the area, there were so many shadows. Half the time you couldn't even see people's faces. So, what could I do? I didn't want to say anything to them. But when it is thrown up on the internet, this is my reputation at hand.

Ariel: "When I have companies like Vivid and Wicked and Sin City and then I come up in something like this, it doesn't look good for me. And as much as I love them and love working for them, their movies are... I don't want to be known for being in cult classic porn films. It's not something I want to do, I only do it because of how I feel about them.

"In Countess Recula, they have a blood orgy scene. They have a peeing scene with Bridget the Midget. There's a scene with a guy sucking his own dick. Not to mention that Donita and myself were the only known people in the movie. Everybody else was very low budget.

"The editing and makeup looked great. But the lighting... They shot it in San Pedro in an old abandoned liquor store. And they brought in no added lighting. They wanted it to look gothic and dark and sinister even though it made everybody look hideous. Everybody looked bad and for those who didn't look good in the first place, it wasn't good for them either... They went for shock value, instead of trying to make it look like a well done movie.

"A couple of the scenes I saw, whoa! I didn't know anything about this. And my name is thrown all over the boxcover. Recula has been on E! Entertainment and the National Enquirer and Howard Stern.

"The girl (Shante) that played the lead role had just had a boob job. Whoever was the doctor had completely done a hack job on her. She had five inch scars under each breast.

"They wanted me because I am Italian and I have naturally black hair and blue eyes. I have a tattoo of vampire bites on my neck which I had gotten when I was younger. That attracted them right away...

"The movie was shocking. I did not even want my boyfriend to see the movie. It was so graphic at times. And I look hideous. What can you do?"

Luke: "How long have you been with your boyfriend?"

Ariel: "Off and on for eight years."

Luke: "What does he think about you being in porn?"

Ariel: "He's ok with it. He doesn't like to hear a lot of the details. He loves me. A lot of the stuff I do now is girl-girl or solo girl masturbation. Anything that involves boy-girl scenes, he is not thrilled about it. But he knew that I had always done this. He just doesn't want to see it. As far as the girl-girl stuff goes, he's overjoyed about that. He loves that concept.

"I recently did the 101 Cheerleader thing for Vivid. And I had the pleasure of working with Heather Lynn. That was unbelievable. They had the girls come in in sets of eight and by far our eight was the hottest and best team they had, the entire time they shot. All the girls got to know each other beforehand. Got comfortable with each other. Heather and I had spent most of the day together before we shot. Things just went really well.

"They had a guy who did all of us. He was a trooper... Just like 101 Nurses with Bobby Vitalie. I think he made it to 70 something and his dick couldn't take it anymore. And it had nothing to do with him being with so many girls. It was him pulling the condom off and on... It's only four or five strokes, pull the condom off and put the next one on. You do that enough times and you are bound to get sore.

"Our scene was more centralized around Heather and myself. Most of the shots were of the girls. The cameras centralized around what we were doing and when the guy was involved, it was only a minute or two for each girl. And it wasn't anything that anybody paid much attention to. After the girls had taken care of each other, the guy just did his thing. It wasn't a big deal for any of us.

"I did a gangbang series for Devils Films with [black guys] Tony Eveready and Byron Long... That was my first DP. Byron was vaginal and Tony was the anal.

"Tony and I had worked together previously for Rod Fontana film for Pleasure. We talk on the phone all the time. I was very comfortable with Tony. He was an absolute gentleman. And I've heard a lot of horrible stories about Tony as far as him getting aggressive and rough with the girls... And that worried me. I had only done one other anal scene. That was with Chris Cannon for Al Borda.

"But Tony was unbelievable. He talked me right through it. He was completely a gentleman. He whispered in my ear to relax. I'm not going any further. You're all right. And I was fine. It didn't hurt me. It was quite pleasurable."

Luke: "So you have no problem with doing interracial?"

Ariel: "No. The only interracial things I've done have been with Tony... I've also worked with [black guy] Mark Anthony who was also a complete gentleman. An extremely nice guy."

Luke: "How prevalent is drug abuse in the adult industry?"

Ariel: "I've seen it a little, but not as much as most people would assume. Most of the general public thinks that everybody is doing cocaine and speed... I could count on one hand the number of times that I have seen any drug usage on set or outside the set. I don't go to the porn parties. It's a job for me and that's it. A bit of pot here and there and a line.... But nothing that would cause a problem on the set. Alcohol is more of an issue than anything else."

Luke: "What are some of the major misconceptions that outsiders have about the adult biz?"

Ariel: "Of the people I run into, they think that any guy can pop into the business. You just throw a girl and a guy together and they have sex and do what they want to do. The guy can come when he wants. They have the misconception that it is all real and it is not. Even though it is porn there are still a lot of Hollywood tricks of the trade that go along with it. You just can't come whenever you want. You come when they tell you to. If you don't do what they say, you don't get paid.

"Also, just because you're in the industry means that you are promiscious outside the business as well, which in a lot of cases is not true. I know that a lot of people in the business that either have a partner in the industry or they don't, and what they do separately is not what they do onscreen. It is a completely different situation. They are still very monogamous outside of the business. What they do onscreen is work and that is it. There's no emotion and no feeling. It's just an act.

"But a lot of people think that if you are a porn star, then you're an easy lay.

Pie Dog Savage writes: We at Mondo love Ariel, we unfortunately must agree to disagree with her. Mondo has gotten press and we hope that it will be a windfall for Ariel. After all, any press is good press. On the subject of Mila, well lets just say she f---ed herself. We are kind people and will not try to make her look bad; further, we have forgotten all the cruel things she said about us. More to the point, f--- you Madjack-off. Your idea of quality product is transsexuals being humiliated. Did you learn that in prison? I've a great idea- why don't I tear your f---ing spleen out and f--- it before your eyes. I don't usually don't get so angered by sub-human trash, but you make me want to puke. How dare you be so self-righteous. Why don't you get born again and leave us the f--- alone, get taken up in the rapture- oh pure and holy man.

Ariel: "You have to let people know that we're tested every 30 days. STD testing is basically a mandatory thing as well."

Luke: "Really?"

Ariel: "Oh definitely. A lot of companies now will have you get the entire gambit... The complete STD screening and any medical examination that you need. I go to my own family physician... I had to explain to him why I needed to have a DNA test done every 30 days. I get the entire screening - syphillis, gonorrhea, chlamydia, hepatitis, everything... A lot of the companies want you to have something that shows in the last six months that you've been tested for STDs. And a lot of the internet companies that want you to do solo stuff, or girl-girl, they want to know that you are clean. You can bleach the toys but if you have syphilis, gonorrhea or hepatitis, bleach doesn't kill it."

Luke: "Does your family know about your adult work?"

Ariel: "No. I'm sure that it wouldn't shock them too extremely because I've always been a very outgoing outward sexual type of person. I've been an exotic dancer since I was 18. There are certain things you can't hide. You have all these skimpy outfits. I used to oil wrestle. When you're 18 and you're covered in oil, it is hard to explain that away.

"I was out of the house at 17 anyways... I went back and forth from an abusive relationship. I'm sure it would bother them but I don't think it would shock them."

Luke: "How about friends from high school?"

Ariel: "I have a couple of friends who know what I do and they're fine with it. Especially the guys, they think it is cool. I've always had a hard time keeping female friends because I've always looked different from everyone else and I've always oozed sexuality without trying. The female friends I do have, they're ok with it. They have their indifferences about it in the back of their minds that they don't say to me, but outwardly they've never said anything to offend me or to make me feel like I was doing anything wrong. What they say behind my back, I don't know.

Ariel writes: In response to the interview i gave, i need to clarify a couple of things...In response to Mondo Video, i have always been treated wonderfully by the cast and crew..The only issue that i had was the pictures that were submitted to the site. Terry explained that the pics that were submitted were taken by different cameras and flash and etc. was not used...Im sure that the pics that Titus took are and will be of a better quality and will show that all of the girls on the set were beautiful.. I've loved working with mondo video, and i apologize to all of the family if anything i said offended or hurt them in any way..This is one of thee most comfortable and on the ball companies that i have ever worked for...They take the time to script their movies and put a story line along with sex...Im sure that for all of us girls, it was mainly a concern of other producers or directors seeing the low lighting of the pics and some of the comments made about us would hinder us in future work with other companies....Of course any company that makes a movie, porno or mainstream intends to profit from their venture. Also the talent hopes that they are presented in a way that makes them attractive to other companies, in hopes of getting more work from their films...Once again i apologize to the mondo family and any of the talent that may have been hurt or upset by any of the comments that were made.. I do by no means feel that working with Mondo lowers my standards...I wish more companies would treat their talent with the friendship and respect that they give to their talent.