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Kiko Wu - A Self-Made Woman in a Man’s World
2002-11-07 13:12:18
By Damian Troy Miller

Walk the streets of New York city and your bound to find all-American men waking hand-in-hand with their girlfriends. Look closely, and you’ll find that many of these girls are petite Asian women with beautiful skin, sparkling personalities, and the most inviting smiles. As for this writer, I’m not one of those all-American guys, and have never had the privilege of spending even an afternoon with one of these jewels. That is, until I met Kiko, a New York model and the owner of one of the classiest and trailblazing adult web sites. A site and business model she built on her own in a male dominated - and not always a particularly female friendly - industry.

Kiko Wu is a gentle beauty that knows what she wants and has courageously built a business of which she is deeply proud and eager to share with clients and other entertainers alike. She began as an exotic dancer, working in a “good place” that enabled her to treat her chosen profession “like a regular job”, as she put it when we met recently for lunch. “The men’s treatment of the women often depended on how the girls presented themselves”, she explained. “I presented myself like a real professional and the men treated me with respect. I had a flexible schedule as a dancer, so I used my time wisely and took several business classes. From the beginning I took myself and my work very seriously, and went about it with a positive attitude.” It was this attitude and her sense of self that enabled her to launch her first web site as an advertising mechanism for her dancing shows.

Kiko described her strip dancing experience as one that taught her how to better deal with a wide range of people, and one that was highly psychological (not only physical) in nature. She met girls from all over the country, some dancing to support their kids, others to put themselves through school, and others just doing it for the experience. Kiko, however, was not pushed into dancing for financial reasons or anything of the sort. She actually wanted to waitress at the time, and then gave thought to waitressing at a strip club. As luck would have it, she elected to give up the waitressing idea and just stuck with the strip club idea, joining the exotic dancing scene instead.

In the late 1990’s, after success had already begun to come her way, she combined her modeling talent and business acumen by launching her first “for pay” web site. “The site helped me get over the stigma of being the ‘little Asian girl’ on the block”, she confided in me with pride. (She makes videos a well, but only to supplement her Internet product.) The web site’s been around for three years and shows no signs of letting up. In fact, Kiko launched another site in January 2001, “Chinatown-Girls.com”, where quality adult entertainment is at its finest. A friend of mine who saw the site commented, “…she’s a sexual artist. She’s unique in that way and a joy to watch in action.” In other words, she’s telling us something new about life and sexuality every time she creates a scene. And that’s refreshing. Imagination and hard work have gotten her where she is, and her web sites are a gold mine to all of us out there who appreciate quality, hard-core adult material.

In September 2001, Kiko started Goddess Digital Media, the largest dedicated adult content production studio in New York city. In August of this year, Kiko introduced VoyerBot.com that will go on sale in the very near future. It’s a 24 hour-a-day telepresence that will follow the daily lives of girls as they go about their everyday business. But, here’s the exciting twist. Guys will be able to actively participate in the action by getting the girls to do things they’d like to see them do. It’s highly interactive, and a lot more intimate than anything that the market has made available till now. In many ways, the VoyerBot is similar to the little robot bomb squads send in to diffuse potential explosives. Well, similar in the sense that it is remote controlled, and its operator sees from a distance (over the Internet) exactly what the robot sees up close. In other words, users anywhere in the world can control a robot situated in a model’s home miles away, and see what the robot sees – every move the model is makes; every part of her body, and every curve of her tantalizing figure. Subscribers can follow the model around her home, listen to her speak to them in stereo, and speak to her themselves by simply typing in their messages. And the VoyerBot is mounted in such a way that all visuals are clear and up close. There are no fuzzy visuals or sliced and diced pictures. For most of you who are probably already interested, you can find more information at www.VoyerBot.com.

Unlike many of those not involved in the adult biz, Kiko does not view the adult industry as an exploitative one. She is careful to be very honest and up front with her models prior to every job, and she pays them top dollar. Kiko’s management style is refreshingly different from many bosses in the mainstream work world who pay their people very little and work their employees harder than they work themselves (and it’s often these same people who jump to hypocritically condemn Kiko as abusive and exploitative). And here, Kiko makes a particularly good point. “Thousands of Americans work for minimum wage doing physical labor for eight hours a day, just to feed their families or to put themselves through school.” In Kiko’s world, each model is an independent contractor (tax form 1099 for those of you looking to get into the industry) who makes his/her own hours and gets paid handsomely for what they do. Exploitation? I think not. Just have a look at their paychecks.

Kiko explains that she takes special care to treat her actors with the utmost respect and dignity. “I’m trying to build a good reputation”, she says. So, she pays for the model’s blood work, and interviews all her male models for personality and integrity. This is not a “wham bam thank you mam” operation. The girls have to feel good about the creative process and each scene they’re doing - whether it be girl/girl or boy/girl. As for quality, the women are some of the most beautiful and sensual amateurs in the business, and the guys’ acting abilities far surpass the Hollywood norm. The models are all in their 20’s and look the parts they play. When themes are in order, they are painstakingly worked on to ensure that the viewer will find them both stimulating and believable at once.

And what about sexual skill and the need for hard work and determination to get through a scene? “The guys work particularly hard” Kiko explains, “this type of work is always physically harder for the men, and I try to make everybody on the set feel comfortable and at ease.” Most of Kiko’s work is hard core, but she mixes in some soft material from time to time for a change of pace. “I offer the girls options for what they’d like to do. I never make them do anything on camera they don’t feel comfortable doing. There’s no pressure with me and they choose their scenes. They can always go home and come back another day when the right scene is there for them.” (Wouldn’t we all love such a boss?!) As for the guys, stamina and the ability to take direction (from a woman nonetheless!) are key.

Kiko works out of her New York city studio-office (she acquired it about a year ago) and is exploring new venues for producing mainstream content. She views herself as an independent film maker (I think, somewhat of a maverick too) who’s trying to make a statement to the industry and to change it for the better. For instance, Kiko laments the fact that in the Hollywood-style porn genre, it’s always the white guy who gets the innocent little Asian girl. So, in her effort to counteract this trend, Kiko looks to assure us viewers that its also the Asian or African American guy who comes out on top (no pun intended) - not just the white dood with the big cock and bulging muscles. Heads up all you talented minority men - there may be more employment out there than you expected.

Kiko’s staff consists of two primary members (one guy one girl) and a full time photographer, in addition to a dedicated customer support team. She often works with no more than two models a month, some of which model for her for several months at a time. “Men tend to latch on to one girl and want to see the same girl in different situations. So they keep coming back if they like what they see. My goal is to give those customers the same girl in a new situation each time.” It’s a method that’s been working for Kiko for some time now. But still, I told Kiko, I always thought that men like variety when it comes to women. She explained that though this is still true, many men become attached to a girl and “kind of make her their own. So they want to see her develop. They want to get to know her better and better.”

Yet, despite all her success, Kiko has endured her share of adversity as well. In January of 2001, Kiko attended the Las Vegas Adult Entertainment convention to promote her work. “An interesting experience” as she describes it saying, “men don’t get the fact that I - a woman - run the business. At the convention they asked to speak to the company director and asked again when I told them it was me.” Men seem to have a hard time accepting the reality that Kiko is both the brains and the brawn behind the biz. Yet this is one of the special aspects of Kiko’s work - it’s for men, but from a woman’s perspective. Tantalizing. Porn for men, created and directed by a woman. Get used to it boys, Kiko is here to make her mark.

As she looks to the future, Kiko sees a bright one. In the works, she has the SexWaldo, an Internet controlled motorized dildo. You’ll have to wait for my next article to learn more about the dildo, but if you liked the VoyerBot, the SexWaldo is going to make you crazy. Also in the works is an increase in video production with thematic movies involving public nudity, sci-fi, medicine, and a wealth of other themes on which we can all brainstorm and await as Kiko Wu creates, innovates, and tantalizes us with her beautiful smile, kind heart and radiant spirit.

Kiko Wu Attacks
2003-02-04 08:34:30
Kiko Wu takes after much of the industry in a thread posted on GFY.

APIC's Steve Easton says he does not post on any boards and the "Easton" model in the threads below is not the Steve Easton of AIPAC - the content watchdog.

AIPIC's Steve Easton has had bad experiences in the past with Lensman, owner of www.gof---yourself.com and adult.com.

Steve Easton says he has never heard of Kiko Wu and that he has never exchanged email with her nor talked to her.

Dugmore of www.joinrightnow.com writes setgo.com: This part is correct "Dugmor appears to be the head guy over there, runs the show anyway, don't know if there are silent partners, he worked for Carol Cox - I think he ran her production studio, male talent, and recruit the new talent."

She is wrong about degrading girls. We have a help wanted on our sites and we get a lot of girls looking for this type of pleasure.

I am not familiar with the Sweet's operation.

We are just doing what we enjoy, and working with people that share the same interest.

XXX Canadian Porner writes: Easton isn't a model. He's part of a group out of Montreal that operates a porn production company and owns paysites and an affiliate program. Their affiliate program is called JoinRightNow.com. I'm not sure if Easton is a partner in the business or an employee. Dugmor appears to be the head guy over there, runs the show anyway, don't know if there are silent partners, he worked for Carol Cox - I think he ran her production studio, male talent, and recruitet new talent.

Guess he got smart and decided to use he skills to go out on his own. Herfirstgangbang.com is the site that has Kiko Wu upset I'm sure, i wouldn't classify the stuff they shoot as anything close to the rough sex being shot by the L.A. studios like Extreme. Their gangbangs aren't really gangbangs, scenes are usually 2 or 3 guys with one girl, a mini gangbang would be generous, lots of chatter to make it sound like they just pulled a chick off the street and these guys are going to tear her up real good - Easton I believe is in all the HerFirstGangBang scenes. The signature move these guys have is at some point during the scene, they 'FishHook' the girl, pulling her mouth back with their fingers, the effect is the girl looks pathetic and ridiculous, it's an aggressive male power type of thing and I'm sure that's one of the things Kiko hates, there are many people who don't like it. These guys talk a big game when it comes to this kind of content, lots of 'let's split this bitch apart dude', but these guys aren't badasses, they're Canadians! lol Canadian can't pull off that kind of porn, except for that creep Steve Sweet. Too dorky and nice.

The company is jumping on the trend in porn that for it be good and cutting edge it has to have that 'We tricked this stupid little bitch into letting us f-ck the sh-t out of her' attitude. It's Beavis and Butthead meets Bangbus - they are all playing to an audience that apparently is digging this type of stuff. Right now they're all doing BangBus impressions, kinda comica to hear Canuck and Quebecois accents trying to affect a distinctly American 'voice'. I don't like it, I'm about the same age as you Luke, i came of age when the video porn biz exploded with the birth of the home VCR in the early 80's.

Porn wasn't about humiliating a woman. Ed Powers and Stagliano invented gonzo proam porn in my opinion, all of what we see on the Net today in these reality video porn sites are descended from Ed, Buttman, Seymore et al. The thing is that those guys all worshipped the women on screen, mainstream pop culture was just beginning to take this major turn for the worse where everybody is fair game to be humiliated for entertainment purposes and laughs. Howard Stern, Letterman, rap, Beavis and Butthead, WWF - stupid and crass has never looked back. It defines so much of today's pop culture including porn which is now as mainstream as pro wrestling. Bangbus began a revolution in porn, especially Net porn. There were guys in the video biz doing similar stuff but these guys put their own stamp on it and did it on the Net. Everybody is now doing an imititation, some lame, some good.

I have a feeling Easton is basically 'talent'.

Kiko writes to the model Easton: You work with other scum sucking bottom feeding losers [Max Hardcore, Sweet Entertainment Group]. No surprise you're working with the Sweets- and we all know what really happens on their shoots don't we? Vancouver's dirty little secret- but the models all know don't we?

Sure, I'm easy to spot. the girl sandwiched between the two very large, very unpleasant looking gentleman who lack both necks and a sense of humor- feel free to come up and give me a slap on the ass to introduce yourself.

Look, it's pretty simple Easton. You're a scum sucking little pustule on the backside of porn representing everything that's wrong with the industry. Everyone here knows the garbage you sell is repugnant, they just choose to look the other way. Crap sites like the one you promote make it harder for me to run a legitimate, ethical business so I have absolutely no qualms about pointing out your innumerable failings as a human being.

Your total and utter lack of social skills put you into the position of having to pay for every instant of female physical contact you could have ever hoped to have. You just decided to make the best of it by video taping yourself paying for sex- advertising to the world your inadequacies.

That's my humble opinion but there is absolutely sh-t you can do about it but make empty threats and end the evening crying into your blankie cursing all the women who ever rejected you.

Anyway, beating up on defenseless losers has made me tired. I'm going to bed. Easton, you spend the night cursing your impotence and inability to carry though on bluster and empty threats okay?

Mutt writes on GFY: She's way smart. I like her. And she won that little debate hands down without breaking a sweat, she charged him with being a mysoginistic asshole and drew this outta him

"we buy and sell whores like you every day and make $$$ c u n t s like you... "

Can't do it any better than that.

Chodadog writes: She's smarter than Easton, but i don't think she won anything. Not that she cares, but i've actually lost respect for her. There's not a thing wrong with the way Easton and JoinRightNow run their sites.

The people involved are consenting adults, and the site is legal. Those women can do with their bodies whatever the hell they want. The're not being exploited.

Rooster writes on GFY: I suppose there are some girls out there that like having gigantic cocks stuffed down their gullet till they choke, and then have loads and loads of cum sprayed all over them, etc.

But in my experience, girls under 25 are usually morons who have no clue. A lot of girls that do that stuff at 19 will be seriously regret it when they get some maturity.

Gutterboy writes: Asian inferiority complex strikes again. Ever notice how Asian women.. especially recent immigrants.. tend to be either pathetic doormats, or domineering bitches with a freakishly intense craving to appear more intelligent than everyone else?

MrFiction writes: It's almost always pathetic when one person creating legal porn talks sh-t on another person creating legal porn and tries to say that the other person is immoral and they themselves are beyond reproach. Comparing teens sites to pedophilia is also idiotic.

Foolio writes: [Kiko] is a fake bitch. She had a live appearance here in San Diego not too long ago and had something like 300 people say they were going to show up -but NOBODY went to see her.

She has always had an "I am better than you" attitude. It's easy to see in how she talks to people. Go check out some of her yahoo groups if they are still up.

She never did impress me. Not in the brains or body department. I like for my girls tits to move when they jump.

DrGuile writes: Easton and Cie, brandish the free speech argument when people critize their site, but when someone says their opinion about what they do, they physically threaten that person to shut her up?

Kiko Wu writes on GFY: Easton and Pink-In-The-Middle are doing the old "Next Internext Ninja" routine- I guess a 95lb girl is just about what they can both handle if they really cooperate. You run non-nude teen sites- you're a scum bag, you fishhook women- you're a scum bag. You repeatedly threaten to physically assault women who don't agree with you at industry functions- you're a scum bag and should not be permitted to attend. A lot of people feel the same way I do, the difference is I'm willing to point a finger and say YOU- what YOU do sucks to the people responsible. The reaction to this can be seen in the thread- absolute shock at actually being held personally responsible for his actions.

Some people object to things but avoid pointing fingers and naming names, if I see something I don't like I'm willing to take a stand on it- even without dozens of board cronies to back me up. I long since got my ass blacklisted from AVN Online and every other Adult media outlet for doing this so I really have nothing to lose.

Last I checked most of the more successful women in the business rarely take a stand on anything- particularly when it's something controversial that might make them unpopular. It's easy to be popular when you pride yourself on having no opinions. They privately complain about a lot of things but would never consider confronting the people responsible in an open forum when the odds are so ridiculously stacked against them.

So in short, I went out on a limb, I said my piece, I stand by everything I said and am more than prepared to deal the consequences- if any, and come out on top. As for anybody who doesn't like that- they know what they can do:

http://www.GoddessDigitalMedia.com/Go-f-ck-Yourself.mov

SureFire writes: I don’t know her in person or on the internet (just what I read), but she is comes across as a women who uses her cultural for her own gain.

She butted into a conversation that had nothing to do with “how low to you go to sell sex,” but trashes a porn business in public that is competition. Kind of reminds me on another forum where she trashed a designer for less than $35.00. On another forum, where she trashed an white male for exploiting Asian girls. And on another forum, she tells a new webmistress to F-off.

Kiko Wu writes: Easton repeatedly expressed in several threads a desire for me to model for his company. I politely declined until I saw his sites. I didn't like the sites, and I felt they reflected on his character. I told him in no uncertain terms what I thought of the sort of person who would be involved with those sort of sites. There was no mention of censoring them, or even of legality- It was one person saying "I don't like your sites and I don't like you". The result was several threats, (some of which were deleted) of assault at the next industry function- a very professional response for someone representing a sizable online company to post in a public forum.

Unfortunately before I could write a response the forum was locked- effectively giving Easton and his groupies the "last word". The forum was also later edited to protect Easton from some of his ill advised comments. The thread remains intact for now and hopefully the mods will not yield to pressure and remove it. I have plans for it:-)

There may or not be a place in the industry for sites like the ones in question- they are certainly legal. But I am no obligation to be the least bit civil to the kind of men who run them or spare their feelings. No one ever minced words telling me what they think of what I do as an Adult model- why on earth would I spare Easton when I find what he does repugnant?

The sites my company runs are widely known. If you object to people who are willing to stand up and fight for what they believe to be right just don't do business with us.

A dozen times a day I get emails from men who want to curse me out for whatever reason, I don't go off on a two day crying jag on a half dozen different boards like Easton did whining "Kiko was mean to me- I'm going to get her good". I certainly don't resort to threatening people who don't like what I do. I said my piece, I knew is was unpopular, I took my lumps and I stand by my comments. I'm not going to waste a dozen posts complaining about it. Easton- someone said they didn't like you and what you do. Get over it already...

As for the rest of my detractors, go find your own fight. Anyone can say "me too!" and jump on board with the pack. Try standing on your own two feet sometime.

As I said Kimmy, no one ever feels obliged to mince words when speaking to or about models. Posters curse out models call them all sluts and dumb whores but if someone says something about a webmaster it's a four page thread? Talent is bad mouthed every hour on the hour around here- but when it's a webmaster it's no longer "cricket"? Give me a break if I'm not exactly shedding a tear for Easton.

Most of the women in this business are too eager trying to differentiate themselves from talent to be the least bit concerned about how they are treated. Speaking up for them in a place like GFY is hardly going to make me popular (not that I even initiated the discussion here). The issues that are important to me are clearly different than the ones that are important to you, but when you fought your battles I don't recall interfering Kimmy or using my name to give credibility to your detractors.

I could just as easily do a morning after analysis of every post you made during those arguments. I show some professional courtesy and yes, even a little gender unity on occasion and let you fight for what you believe in without interfering or trying to piggyback my name onto the discussion.

How many women speaking about this subject have said "I don't want to take sides..." which is about one step down from "Math makes my head hurt". That's what arguments are for- taking sides. Fighting for what you believe to be right to explore different ideas. Arguing is GOOD. Learning without arguing is like dancing without a partner. Having an opinion is not a personality flaw. It's not good for business, but it's not a personality flaw.

Having a absolutely universal industry headset that "If it makes money and is legal it's okay" is not particularly helpful because it makes us look like a single homogenous unit with no internal dialog. Couple amateur sites in the same league as Max Hardcore simply because they both share the same arbitrary label of "porn". Some people agree with this but I believe that ethical standards are one of the primary ways to differentiate between Adult business models.

It's easy to say "everything is okay" when you don't intend to be personally responsible for it. If you work under a pseudonym, no one outside the industry knows what you look like or what you do, or even just live in the suburbs where you don't come in direct contact with large numbers of people- then what's to worry about? The only people who will judge you are other pornographers. Some people go to extremes and don't even let other pornographers judge them- make sure their profile does not contain anything about their business or their sites before going on the attack in a forum.

I have my face plastered on the front page of the highest traffic Asian porn model paysite on the net. When I ride the subway, go to school, go shopping- I routinely meet people who know exactly who I am and what I do. I've now done several interviews for mainstream publications where I have had to put what my company does and how it does it an a context that would be palatable to a mainstream reader. I don't give myself the luxury of hiding behind a computer saying "anything goes" knowing that I will seldom if ever be directly confronted with a person who questions the way I make my money.

Totally anonymity is a warm blanket but it doesn't exactly inspire the highest ethical standards. Those who cling to it as a buffer against culpability shouldn't be so eager to bash those of us who put our face on our business and routinely have to answer for it in the real world.

First off, I've spent a lot of time at adult conventions and know what kind of people adult webmasters are. You aren't pimps, you aren't Mac Daddies or hardcore- the few that are hardcore are low key about it because they don't have anything to prove. Most of you are computer guys or art school dropouts- most very nice in real life. The guys who fancy themselves pimps are the same Melvins trying to learn Klingon for the next Star Trek convention.

Nothing gets "wuss" branded on your ass faster then forum tough talk. All this "dumb sluts, f-ck her, f-ck this, I'll f-ck her up" is because online is the only place in your life you can talk like that without spending the following hour crawling around on the floor with a paper cup looking for your teeth. Guys tough enough to get away with saying that in real life long since got over the novelty and realized that it's not a terribly useful habit. Get over it, yes this is the Internet. Yes, while safely behind your computer you can talk like Huggy Bear. When the novelty wears off start thinking about whether it's good for business.

In any event, back to the subject at hand. I wrote this with the intention of posting it in the thread this all originated in. I was locked out of the thread and didn't really think most of the posters on GFY would be very receptive to the message. But might as well waste it on them rather then just waste it and let it go unread.

I don't buy most of the desensitization argument (although being publicly threatened by the owner of one of these sites makes you wonder). I think they are repugnant but I also I think there is definitely a place for fish hooking, Max Hardcore and other forms of consensual degradation in the adult industry.

My argument is that the adult industry as a whole should not been seen as embracing it and should make ever effort to distance itself. Couple sites and independent models/amateurs are effectively the hard shell for our industry- they are perfect camera fodder for the TV news magazines and put the best face on our industry. But if they are the hard shell then Max Hardcore and others specializing in degradation are the soft underbelly, they leave us vulnerable to conservative attack and to legislation. They have their place as does everything that is legal and consensual, but whether the industry should be seen as holding them up as "one of us" is another matter.

We have seen this pattern played out many, many times. Back in the day people were not quite as conscience as they could have been about what sites they linked to. KP used to show up in all sorts of places you'd NEVER see it now. What happened? The hammer came down on everyone. The media uses pornography as a synonym for child pornography half the time and in the minds of a lot of people the two are still interrelated.

There used to be a lot more sites playing fast and lose with credit cards. They were "our guys" they made lots of money, and we all got burned.

When you look at recent media coverage of the adult industry there has been a heavy lean towards "the victims". They trot some sad eyed 19 year old out to cry in front of the camera for a few minutes and fill in the rest with fictional statistics.

Now Max Hardcore style, and other consensual degrading content is LEGAL, and I would defend with my denying breath the legality of producing it. But the Adult industry makes for good press- it's got money, Internet and sex. Gives them a chance to show a little flesh in the teaser. Last year when they were talking about Danni etc. that was great. But now they are talking about Max Hardcore, Bum Fights, "I tricked the dumb bitch" sites and other parts of the "reality" niche. Bum Fights wasn't even porn but we were marketing it so we took the hit. They made lots of money sure, didn't do the reputation of our industry much good. They make the money but we all end up footing the bill in the end.

There's a huge difference between defending the legality of these sites, and supporting the type of content or how it is produced. Only an idiot would directly support them or be comfortable with them being held up as representatives of the industry- and increasingly they are. They are the absolutely perfect bait for right wing conservatives- they could not ask for anything better.

There has been a definite growth in "reality" sites with a misogynist slant to them, as the market has gotten more competitive the content has gotten increasingly extreme. Are any of you deluded enough to think that this will go unnoticed and that we will not all eventually pay the piper? Dr. Koop, the former surgeon general (and normally a very bright guy) is already speaking out against the industry for it's treatment of talent. We live in one of the most conservative first world counties. We don't even let 19 year old girls drink, you fishhook one while coming on her face and screaming at her that she's a dumb bitch then you are just asking for the Feds to hand you your ass. If as an industry, you stand up and say "These guys are one of us, it's legal and it makes money so it's okay" then you are just handing them all of our asses.

Get smart guys, as an industry we've all paid too many times for other peoples bad habits. If you want to say "Yeah! Those dumb bitches deserve it" go for it. Just don't be crying all over the boards when the prominence of the niche and the industry support it gets burns us all.

Paul Sweet writes: So now you are suggesting that instead of working as a whole to overcome a stigma placed on the Porn Industry we should instead work at marketing a palatable version of Porn to placate the North American public?

And I suppose in other rights movements such as Women's rights and minority group rights those people who were protesting and doing what they believed in should have said "I don't like those people over there because they make me look bad - lets dump their asses."

Your theory in this matter is actually backwards as its always the radical fringe elements in a marginalized group that serve to make changes to the publics perception towards the majority of that marginalized group. Even if the bulk of the marginalized group despises those fringe Elements. For example, Malcolm X was not as popular in his time as he is now. And before anyone puts words in my mouth, I am not comparing ANYONE in the Porn business to Malcolm X or suggesting what he was doing is as important as the issues presented here.

You have to do what you feel is morally right - I would never suggest otherwise. But you have to allow other people the freedom to do what they want, even if you don't feel its morally acceptable to your standards - as long as its legal. The law is supposed to represent the communities standards as a whole. That's how our supposed democratic society works. If it didn't you would be in the same boat as everyone else in this industry - f-cked by the right wing conservatives who are in power.

And never mind that - its time for American legislators to realize that by not working with the industry proactively and positively they are only serving to push things offshore where there are even less controls to prevent the real moral outrages. Maybe they could do more to help out in countries where its legal to produce CP instead of the "as long as its not in my backyard" approach they have now. The Internet is global and its not going anywhere.

Kiko Wu writes: Sweet, given the garbage your company produces it's not exactly a big shock that you are scared sh-tless of losing the shield of adult industry support. On top of that you're in Canada- while you have local troubles you're unlikely to be affected by the legislation your content niche is likely to provoke in the US.

I've been the top Asian porn model paysite for a few years now. As far as I know still am (although it's possible I've been unseated and just missed it) Long since got myself blacklisted from AVN Online etc. so you'll never see my name in there but I'm pretty happy with what I've done. I've been speaking my mind this way for years now and there are plenty of people still happy to do business with me and they seem to profit from it. So I don't really see any reason to show much restraint when it comes to speaking my mind.