Kiko Wu - A Self-Made Woman in a Man’s World
2002-11-07 13:12:18
By Damian Troy Miller
Walk the streets of New York city and your bound to find all-American
men waking hand-in-hand with their girlfriends. Look closely,
and you’ll find that many of these girls are petite Asian women
with beautiful skin, sparkling personalities, and the most inviting
smiles. As for this writer, I’m not one of those all-American
guys, and have never had the privilege of spending even an afternoon
with one of these jewels. That is, until I met Kiko, a New York
model and the owner of one of the classiest and trailblazing
adult web sites. A site and business model she built on her
own in a male dominated - and not always a particularly female
friendly - industry.
Kiko Wu is a gentle beauty that knows what she wants and has
courageously built a business of which she is deeply proud and
eager to share with clients and other entertainers alike. She
began as an exotic dancer, working in a “good place” that enabled
her to treat her chosen profession “like a regular job”, as
she put it when we met recently for lunch. “The men’s treatment
of the women often depended on how the girls presented themselves”,
she explained. “I presented myself like a real professional
and the men treated me with respect. I had a flexible schedule
as a dancer, so I used my time wisely and took several business
classes. From the beginning I took myself and my work very seriously,
and went about it with a positive attitude.” It was this attitude
and her sense of self that enabled her to launch her first web
site as an advertising mechanism for her dancing shows.
Kiko described her strip dancing experience as one that taught
her how to better deal with a wide range of people, and one
that was highly psychological (not only physical) in nature.
She met girls from all over the country, some dancing to support
their kids, others to put themselves through school, and others
just doing it for the experience. Kiko, however, was not pushed
into dancing for financial reasons or anything of the sort.
She actually wanted to waitress at the time, and then gave thought
to waitressing at a strip club. As luck would have it, she elected
to give up the waitressing idea and just stuck with the strip
club idea, joining the exotic dancing scene instead.
In the late 1990’s, after success had already begun to come
her way, she combined her modeling talent and business acumen
by launching her first “for pay” web site. “The site helped
me get over the stigma of being the ‘little Asian girl’ on the
block”, she confided in me with pride. (She makes videos a well,
but only to supplement her Internet product.) The web site’s
been around for three years and shows no signs of letting up.
In fact, Kiko launched another site in January 2001, “Chinatown-Girls.com”,
where quality adult entertainment is at its finest. A friend
of mine who saw the site commented, “…she’s a sexual artist.
She’s unique in that way and a joy to watch in action.” In other
words, she’s telling us something new about life and sexuality
every time she creates a scene. And that’s refreshing. Imagination
and hard work have gotten her where she is, and her web sites
are a gold mine to all of us out there who appreciate quality,
hard-core adult material.
In September 2001, Kiko started Goddess Digital Media, the largest
dedicated adult content production studio in New York city.
In August of this year, Kiko introduced VoyerBot.com that will
go on sale in the very near future. It’s a 24 hour-a-day telepresence
that will follow the daily lives of girls as they go about their
everyday business. But, here’s the exciting twist. Guys will
be able to actively participate in the action by getting the
girls to do things they’d like to see them do. It’s highly interactive,
and a lot more intimate than anything that the market has made
available till now. In many ways, the VoyerBot is similar to
the little robot bomb squads send in to diffuse potential explosives.
Well, similar in the sense that it is remote controlled, and
its operator sees from a distance (over the Internet) exactly
what the robot sees up close. In other words, users anywhere
in the world can control a robot situated in a model’s home
miles away, and see what the robot sees – every move the model
is makes; every part of her body, and every curve of her tantalizing
figure. Subscribers can follow the model around her home, listen
to her speak to them in stereo, and speak to her themselves
by simply typing in their messages. And the VoyerBot is mounted
in such a way that all visuals are clear and up close. There
are no fuzzy visuals or sliced and diced pictures. For most
of you who are probably already interested, you can find more
information at www.VoyerBot.com.
Unlike many of those not involved in the adult biz, Kiko does
not view the adult industry as an exploitative one. She is careful
to be very honest and up front with her models prior to every
job, and she pays them top dollar. Kiko’s management style is
refreshingly different from many bosses in the mainstream work
world who pay their people very little and work their employees
harder than they work themselves (and it’s often these same
people who jump to hypocritically condemn Kiko as abusive and
exploitative). And here, Kiko makes a particularly good point.
“Thousands of Americans work for minimum wage doing physical
labor for eight hours a day, just to feed their families or
to put themselves through school.” In Kiko’s world, each model
is an independent contractor (tax form 1099 for those of you
looking to get into the industry) who makes his/her own hours
and gets paid handsomely for what they do. Exploitation? I think
not. Just have a look at their paychecks.
Kiko explains that she takes special care to treat her actors
with the utmost respect and dignity. “I’m trying to build a
good reputation”, she says. So, she pays for the model’s blood
work, and interviews all her male models for personality and
integrity. This is not a “wham bam thank you mam” operation.
The girls have to feel good about the creative process and each
scene they’re doing - whether it be girl/girl or boy/girl. As
for quality, the women are some of the most beautiful and sensual
amateurs in the business, and the guys’ acting abilities far
surpass the Hollywood norm. The models are all in their 20’s
and look the parts they play. When themes are in order, they
are painstakingly worked on to ensure that the viewer will find
them both stimulating and believable at once.
And what about sexual skill and the need for hard work and determination
to get through a scene? “The guys work particularly hard” Kiko
explains, “this type of work is always physically harder for
the men, and I try to make everybody on the set feel comfortable
and at ease.” Most of Kiko’s work is hard core, but she mixes
in some soft material from time to time for a change of pace.
“I offer the girls options for what they’d like to do. I never
make them do anything on camera they don’t feel comfortable
doing. There’s no pressure with me and they choose their scenes.
They can always go home and come back another day when the right
scene is there for them.” (Wouldn’t we all love such a boss?!)
As for the guys, stamina and the ability to take direction (from
a woman nonetheless!) are key.
Kiko works out of her New York city studio-office (she acquired
it about a year ago) and is exploring new venues for producing
mainstream content. She views herself as an independent film
maker (I think, somewhat of a maverick too) who’s trying to
make a statement to the industry and to change it for the better.
For instance, Kiko laments the fact that in the Hollywood-style
porn genre, it’s always the white guy who gets the innocent
little Asian girl. So, in her effort to counteract this trend,
Kiko looks to assure us viewers that its also the Asian or African
American guy who comes out on top (no pun intended) - not just
the white dood with the big cock and bulging muscles. Heads
up all you talented minority men - there may be more employment
out there than you expected.
Kiko’s staff consists of two primary members (one guy one girl)
and a full time photographer, in addition to a dedicated customer
support team. She often works with no more than two models a
month, some of which model for her for several months at a time.
“Men tend to latch on to one girl and want to see the same girl
in different situations. So they keep coming back if they like
what they see. My goal is to give those customers the same girl
in a new situation each time.” It’s a method that’s been working
for Kiko for some time now. But still, I told Kiko, I always
thought that men like variety when it comes to women. She explained
that though this is still true, many men become attached to
a girl and “kind of make her their own. So they want to see
her develop. They want to get to know her better and better.”
Yet, despite all her success, Kiko has endured her share of
adversity as well. In January of 2001, Kiko attended the Las
Vegas Adult Entertainment convention to promote her work. “An
interesting experience” as she describes it saying, “men don’t
get the fact that I - a woman - run the business. At the convention
they asked to speak to the company director and asked again
when I told them it was me.” Men seem to have a hard time accepting
the reality that Kiko is both the brains and the brawn behind
the biz. Yet this is one of the special aspects of Kiko’s work
- it’s for men, but from a woman’s perspective. Tantalizing.
Porn for men, created and directed by a woman. Get used to it
boys, Kiko is here to make her mark.
As she looks to the future, Kiko sees a bright one. In the works,
she has the SexWaldo, an Internet controlled motorized dildo.
You’ll have to wait for my next article to learn more about
the dildo, but if you liked the VoyerBot, the SexWaldo is going
to make you crazy. Also in the works is an increase in video
production with thematic movies involving public nudity, sci-fi,
medicine, and a wealth of other themes on which we can all brainstorm
and await as Kiko Wu creates, innovates, and tantalizes us with
her beautiful smile, kind heart and radiant spirit.
Kiko Wu Attacks
2003-02-04 08:34:30
Kiko Wu takes after much of the industry
in a thread posted
on GFY.
APIC's Steve Easton says he does not post on any boards
and the "Easton" model in the threads below is not the
Steve Easton of AIPAC - the content watchdog.
AIPIC's Steve Easton has had bad experiences in the past
with Lensman, owner of www.gof---yourself.com and adult.com.
Steve Easton says he has never heard of Kiko Wu and that
he has never exchanged email with her nor talked to her.
Dugmore of www.joinrightnow.com writes setgo.com: This
part is correct "Dugmor appears to be the head guy over
there, runs the show anyway, don't know if there are silent
partners, he worked for Carol Cox - I think he ran her
production studio, male talent, and recruit the new talent."
She is wrong about degrading girls. We have a help wanted
on our sites and we get a lot of girls looking for this
type of pleasure.
I am not familiar with the Sweet's operation.
We are just doing what we enjoy, and working with people
that share the same interest.
XXX Canadian Porner writes: Easton isn't a model. He's
part of a group out of Montreal that operates a porn production
company and owns paysites and an affiliate program. Their
affiliate program is called JoinRightNow.com. I'm not
sure if Easton is a partner in the business or an employee.
Dugmor appears to be the head guy over there, runs the
show anyway, don't know if there are silent partners,
he worked for Carol Cox - I think he ran her production
studio, male talent, and recruitet new talent.
Guess he got smart and decided to use he skills to go
out on his own. Herfirstgangbang.com is the site that
has Kiko Wu upset I'm sure, i wouldn't classify the stuff
they shoot as anything close to the rough sex being shot
by the L.A. studios like Extreme. Their gangbangs aren't
really gangbangs, scenes are usually 2 or 3 guys with
one girl, a mini gangbang would be generous, lots of chatter
to make it sound like they just pulled a chick off the
street and these guys are going to tear her up real good
- Easton I believe is in all the HerFirstGangBang scenes.
The signature move these guys have is at some point during
the scene, they 'FishHook' the girl, pulling her mouth
back with their fingers, the effect is the girl looks
pathetic and ridiculous, it's an aggressive male power
type of thing and I'm sure that's one of the things Kiko
hates, there are many people who don't like it. These
guys talk a big game when it comes to this kind of content,
lots of 'let's split this bitch apart dude', but these
guys aren't badasses, they're Canadians! lol Canadian
can't pull off that kind of porn, except for that creep
Steve Sweet. Too dorky and nice.
The company is jumping on the trend in porn that for it
be good and cutting edge it has to have that 'We tricked
this stupid little bitch into letting us f-ck the sh-t
out of her' attitude. It's Beavis and Butthead meets Bangbus
- they are all playing to an audience that apparently
is digging this type of stuff. Right now they're all doing
BangBus impressions, kinda comica to hear Canuck and Quebecois
accents trying to affect a distinctly American 'voice'.
I don't like it, I'm about the same age as you Luke, i
came of age when the video porn biz exploded with the
birth of the home VCR in the early 80's.
Porn wasn't about humiliating a woman. Ed Powers and Stagliano
invented gonzo proam porn in my opinion, all of what we
see on the Net today in these reality video porn sites
are descended from Ed, Buttman, Seymore et al. The thing
is that those guys all worshipped the women on screen,
mainstream pop culture was just beginning to take this
major turn for the worse where everybody is fair game
to be humiliated for entertainment purposes and laughs.
Howard Stern, Letterman, rap, Beavis and Butthead, WWF
- stupid and crass has never looked back. It defines so
much of today's pop culture including porn which is now
as mainstream as pro wrestling. Bangbus began a revolution
in porn, especially Net porn. There were guys in the video
biz doing similar stuff but these guys put their own stamp
on it and did it on the Net. Everybody is now doing an
imititation, some lame, some good.
I have a feeling Easton is basically 'talent'.
Kiko writes to the model Easton: You work with other scum
sucking bottom feeding losers [Max Hardcore, Sweet Entertainment
Group]. No surprise you're working with the Sweets- and
we all know what really happens on their shoots don't
we? Vancouver's dirty little secret- but the models all
know don't we?
Sure, I'm easy to spot. the girl sandwiched between the
two very large, very unpleasant looking gentleman who
lack both necks and a sense of humor- feel free to come
up and give me a slap on the ass to introduce yourself.
Look, it's pretty simple Easton. You're a scum sucking
little pustule on the backside of porn representing everything
that's wrong with the industry. Everyone here knows the
garbage you sell is repugnant, they just choose to look
the other way. Crap sites like the one you promote make
it harder for me to run a legitimate, ethical business
so I have absolutely no qualms about pointing out your
innumerable failings as a human being.
Your total and utter lack of social skills put you into
the position of having to pay for every instant of female
physical contact you could have ever hoped to have. You
just decided to make the best of it by video taping yourself
paying for sex- advertising to the world your inadequacies.
That's my humble opinion but there is absolutely sh-t
you can do about it but make empty threats and end the
evening crying into your blankie cursing all the women
who ever rejected you.
Anyway, beating up on defenseless losers has made me tired.
I'm going to bed. Easton, you spend the night cursing
your impotence and inability to carry though on bluster
and empty threats okay?
Mutt writes
on GFY: She's way smart. I like her. And she won that
little debate hands down without breaking a sweat, she
charged him with being a mysoginistic asshole and drew
this outta him
"we buy and sell whores like you every day and make $$$
c u n t s like you... "
Can't do it any better than that.
Chodadog writes: She's smarter than Easton, but i don't
think she won anything. Not that she cares, but i've actually
lost respect for her. There's not a thing wrong with the
way Easton and JoinRightNow run their sites.
The people involved are consenting adults, and the site
is legal. Those women can do with their bodies whatever
the hell they want. The're not being exploited.
Rooster writes on GFY: I suppose there are some girls
out there that like having gigantic cocks stuffed down
their gullet till they choke, and then have loads and
loads of cum sprayed all over them, etc.
But in my experience, girls under 25 are usually morons
who have no clue. A lot of girls that do that stuff at
19 will be seriously regret it when they get some maturity.
Gutterboy writes: Asian inferiority complex strikes again.
Ever notice how Asian women.. especially recent immigrants..
tend to be either pathetic doormats, or domineering bitches
with a freakishly intense craving to appear more intelligent
than everyone else?
MrFiction writes: It's almost always pathetic when one
person creating legal porn talks sh-t on another person
creating legal porn and tries to say that the other person
is immoral and they themselves are beyond reproach. Comparing
teens sites to pedophilia is also idiotic.
Foolio writes: [Kiko] is a fake bitch. She had a live
appearance here in San Diego not too long ago and had
something like 300 people say they were going to show
up -but NOBODY went to see her.
She has always had an "I am better than you" attitude.
It's easy to see in how she talks to people. Go check
out some of her yahoo groups if they are still up.
She never did impress me. Not in the brains or body department.
I like for my girls tits to move when they jump.
DrGuile writes: Easton and Cie, brandish the free speech
argument when people critize their site, but when someone
says their opinion about what they do, they physically
threaten that person to shut her up?
Kiko Wu writes on GFY: Easton and Pink-In-The-Middle are
doing the old "Next Internext Ninja" routine- I guess
a 95lb girl is just about what they can both handle if
they really cooperate. You run non-nude teen sites- you're
a scum bag, you fishhook women- you're a scum bag. You
repeatedly threaten to physically assault women who don't
agree with you at industry functions- you're a scum bag
and should not be permitted to attend. A lot of people
feel the same way I do, the difference is I'm willing
to point a finger and say YOU- what YOU do sucks to the
people responsible. The reaction to this can be seen in
the thread- absolute shock at actually being held personally
responsible for his actions.
Some people object to things but avoid pointing fingers
and naming names, if I see something I don't like I'm
willing to take a stand on it- even without dozens of
board cronies to back me up. I long since got my ass blacklisted
from AVN Online and every other Adult media outlet for
doing this so I really have nothing to lose.
Last I checked most of the more successful women in the
business rarely take a stand on anything- particularly
when it's something controversial that might make them
unpopular. It's easy to be popular when you pride yourself
on having no opinions. They privately complain about a
lot of things but would never consider confronting the
people responsible in an open forum when the odds are
so ridiculously stacked against them.
So in short, I went out on a limb, I said my piece, I
stand by everything I said and am more than prepared to
deal the consequences- if any, and come out on top. As
for anybody who doesn't like that- they know what they
can do:
http://www.GoddessDigitalMedia.com/Go-f-ck-Yourself.mov
SureFire writes: I don’t know her in person or on the
internet (just what I read), but she is comes across as
a women who uses her cultural for her own gain.
She butted into a conversation that had nothing to do
with “how low to you go to sell sex,” but trashes a porn
business in public that is competition. Kind of reminds
me on another forum where she trashed a designer for less
than $35.00. On another forum, where she trashed an white
male for exploiting Asian girls. And on another forum,
she tells a new webmistress to F-off.
Kiko Wu writes: Easton repeatedly expressed in several
threads a desire for me to model for his company. I politely
declined until I saw his sites. I didn't like the sites,
and I felt they reflected on his character. I told him
in no uncertain terms what I thought of the sort of person
who would be involved with those sort of sites. There
was no mention of censoring them, or even of legality-
It was one person saying "I don't like your sites and
I don't like you". The result was several threats, (some
of which were deleted) of assault at the next industry
function- a very professional response for someone representing
a sizable online company to post in a public forum.
Unfortunately before I could write a response the forum
was locked- effectively giving Easton and his groupies
the "last word". The forum was also later edited to protect
Easton from some of his ill advised comments. The thread
remains intact for now and hopefully the mods will not
yield to pressure and remove it. I have plans for it:-)
There may or not be a place in the industry for sites
like the ones in question- they are certainly legal. But
I am no obligation to be the least bit civil to the kind
of men who run them or spare their feelings. No one ever
minced words telling me what they think of what I do as
an Adult model- why on earth would I spare Easton when
I find what he does repugnant?
The sites my company runs are widely known. If you object
to people who are willing to stand up and fight for what
they believe to be right just don't do business with us.
A dozen times a day I get emails from men who want to
curse me out for whatever reason, I don't go off on a
two day crying jag on a half dozen different boards like
Easton did whining "Kiko was mean to me- I'm going to
get her good". I certainly don't resort to threatening
people who don't like what I do. I said my piece, I knew
is was unpopular, I took my lumps and I stand by my comments.
I'm not going to waste a dozen posts complaining about
it. Easton- someone said they didn't like you and what
you do. Get over it already...
As for the rest of my detractors, go find your own fight.
Anyone can say "me too!" and jump on board with the pack.
Try standing on your own two feet sometime.
As I said Kimmy, no one ever feels obliged to mince words
when speaking to or about models. Posters curse out models
call them all sluts and dumb whores but if someone says
something about a webmaster it's a four page thread? Talent
is bad mouthed every hour on the hour around here- but
when it's a webmaster it's no longer "cricket"? Give me
a break if I'm not exactly shedding a tear for Easton.
Most of the women in this business are too eager trying
to differentiate themselves from talent to be the least
bit concerned about how they are treated. Speaking up
for them in a place like GFY is hardly going to make me
popular (not that I even initiated the discussion here).
The issues that are important to me are clearly different
than the ones that are important to you, but when you
fought your battles I don't recall interfering Kimmy or
using my name to give credibility to your detractors.
I could just as easily do a morning after analysis of
every post you made during those arguments. I show some
professional courtesy and yes, even a little gender unity
on occasion and let you fight for what you believe in
without interfering or trying to piggyback my name onto
the discussion.
How many women speaking about this subject have said "I
don't want to take sides..." which is about one step down
from "Math makes my head hurt". That's what arguments
are for- taking sides. Fighting for what you believe to
be right to explore different ideas. Arguing is GOOD.
Learning without arguing is like dancing without a partner.
Having an opinion is not a personality flaw. It's not
good for business, but it's not a personality flaw.
Having a absolutely universal industry headset that "If
it makes money and is legal it's okay" is not particularly
helpful because it makes us look like a single homogenous
unit with no internal dialog. Couple amateur sites in
the same league as Max Hardcore simply because they both
share the same arbitrary label of "porn". Some people
agree with this but I believe that ethical standards are
one of the primary ways to differentiate between Adult
business models.
It's easy to say "everything is okay" when you don't intend
to be personally responsible for it. If you work under
a pseudonym, no one outside the industry knows what you
look like or what you do, or even just live in the suburbs
where you don't come in direct contact with large numbers
of people- then what's to worry about? The only people
who will judge you are other pornographers. Some people
go to extremes and don't even let other pornographers
judge them- make sure their profile does not contain anything
about their business or their sites before going on the
attack in a forum.
I have my face plastered on the front page of the highest
traffic Asian porn model paysite on the net. When I ride
the subway, go to school, go shopping- I routinely meet
people who know exactly who I am and what I do. I've now
done several interviews for mainstream publications where
I have had to put what my company does and how it does
it an a context that would be palatable to a mainstream
reader. I don't give myself the luxury of hiding behind
a computer saying "anything goes" knowing that I will
seldom if ever be directly confronted with a person who
questions the way I make my money.
Totally anonymity is a warm blanket but it doesn't exactly
inspire the highest ethical standards. Those who cling
to it as a buffer against culpability shouldn't be so
eager to bash those of us who put our face on our business
and routinely have to answer for it in the real world.
First off, I've spent a lot of time at adult conventions
and know what kind of people adult webmasters are. You
aren't pimps, you aren't Mac Daddies or hardcore- the
few that are hardcore are low key about it because they
don't have anything to prove. Most of you are computer
guys or art school dropouts- most very nice in real life.
The guys who fancy themselves pimps are the same Melvins
trying to learn Klingon for the next Star Trek convention.
Nothing gets "wuss" branded on your ass faster then forum
tough talk. All this "dumb sluts, f-ck her, f-ck this,
I'll f-ck her up" is because online is the only place
in your life you can talk like that without spending the
following hour crawling around on the floor with a paper
cup looking for your teeth. Guys tough enough to get away
with saying that in real life long since got over the
novelty and realized that it's not a terribly useful habit.
Get over it, yes this is the Internet. Yes, while safely
behind your computer you can talk like Huggy Bear. When
the novelty wears off start thinking about whether it's
good for business.
In any event, back to the subject at hand. I wrote this
with the intention of posting it in the thread this all
originated in. I was locked out of the thread and didn't
really think most of the posters on GFY would be very
receptive to the message. But might as well waste it on
them rather then just waste it and let it go unread.
I don't buy most of the desensitization argument (although
being publicly threatened by the owner of one of these
sites makes you wonder). I think they are repugnant but
I also I think there is definitely a place for fish hooking,
Max Hardcore and other forms of consensual degradation
in the adult industry.
My argument is that the adult industry as a whole should
not been seen as embracing it and should make ever effort
to distance itself. Couple sites and independent models/amateurs
are effectively the hard shell for our industry- they
are perfect camera fodder for the TV news magazines and
put the best face on our industry. But if they are the
hard shell then Max Hardcore and others specializing in
degradation are the soft underbelly, they leave us vulnerable
to conservative attack and to legislation. They have their
place as does everything that is legal and consensual,
but whether the industry should be seen as holding them
up as "one of us" is another matter.
We have seen this pattern played out many, many times.
Back in the day people were not quite as conscience as
they could have been about what sites they linked to.
KP used to show up in all sorts of places you'd NEVER
see it now. What happened? The hammer came down on everyone.
The media uses pornography as a synonym for child pornography
half the time and in the minds of a lot of people the
two are still interrelated.
There used to be a lot more sites playing fast and lose
with credit cards. They were "our guys" they made lots
of money, and we all got burned.
When you look at recent media coverage of the adult industry
there has been a heavy lean towards "the victims". They
trot some sad eyed 19 year old out to cry in front of
the camera for a few minutes and fill in the rest with
fictional statistics.
Now Max Hardcore style, and other consensual degrading
content is LEGAL, and I would defend with my denying breath
the legality of producing it. But the Adult industry makes
for good press- it's got money, Internet and sex. Gives
them a chance to show a little flesh in the teaser. Last
year when they were talking about Danni etc. that was
great. But now they are talking about Max Hardcore, Bum
Fights, "I tricked the dumb bitch" sites and other parts
of the "reality" niche. Bum Fights wasn't even porn but
we were marketing it so we took the hit. They made lots
of money sure, didn't do the reputation of our industry
much good. They make the money but we all end up footing
the bill in the end.
There's a huge difference between defending the legality
of these sites, and supporting the type of content or
how it is produced. Only an idiot would directly support
them or be comfortable with them being held up as representatives
of the industry- and increasingly they are. They are the
absolutely perfect bait for right wing conservatives-
they could not ask for anything better.
There has been a definite growth in "reality" sites with
a misogynist slant to them, as the market has gotten more
competitive the content has gotten increasingly extreme.
Are any of you deluded enough to think that this will
go unnoticed and that we will not all eventually pay the
piper? Dr. Koop, the former surgeon general (and normally
a very bright guy) is already speaking out against the
industry for it's treatment of talent. We live in one
of the most conservative first world counties. We don't
even let 19 year old girls drink, you fishhook one while
coming on her face and screaming at her that she's a dumb
bitch then you are just asking for the Feds to hand you
your ass. If as an industry, you stand up and say "These
guys are one of us, it's legal and it makes money so it's
okay" then you are just handing them all of our asses.
Get smart guys, as an industry we've all paid too many
times for other peoples bad habits. If you want to say
"Yeah! Those dumb bitches deserve it" go for it. Just
don't be crying all over the boards when the prominence
of the niche and the industry support it gets burns us
all.
Paul Sweet writes: So now you are suggesting that instead
of working as a whole to overcome a stigma placed on the
Porn Industry we should instead work at marketing a palatable
version of Porn to placate the North American public?
And I suppose in other rights movements such as Women's
rights and minority group rights those people who were
protesting and doing what they believed in should have
said "I don't like those people over there because they
make me look bad - lets dump their asses."
Your theory in this matter is actually backwards as its
always the radical fringe elements in a marginalized group
that serve to make changes to the publics perception towards
the majority of that marginalized group. Even if the bulk
of the marginalized group despises those fringe Elements.
For example, Malcolm X was not as popular in his time
as he is now. And before anyone puts words in my mouth,
I am not comparing ANYONE in the Porn business to Malcolm
X or suggesting what he was doing is as important as the
issues presented here.
You have to do what you feel is morally right - I would
never suggest otherwise. But you have to allow other people
the freedom to do what they want, even if you don't feel
its morally acceptable to your standards - as long as
its legal. The law is supposed to represent the communities
standards as a whole. That's how our supposed democratic
society works. If it didn't you would be in the same boat
as everyone else in this industry - f-cked by the right
wing conservatives who are in power.
And never mind that - its time for American legislators
to realize that by not working with the industry proactively
and positively they are only serving to push things offshore
where there are even less controls to prevent the real
moral outrages. Maybe they could do more to help out in
countries where its legal to produce CP instead of the
"as long as its not in my backyard" approach they have
now. The Internet is global and its not going anywhere.
Kiko Wu writes: Sweet, given the garbage your company
produces it's not exactly a big shock that you are scared
sh-tless of losing the shield of adult industry support.
On top of that you're in Canada- while you have local
troubles you're unlikely to be affected by the legislation
your content niche is likely to provoke in the US.
I've been the top Asian porn model paysite for a few years
now. As far as I know still am (although it's possible
I've been unseated and just missed it) Long since got
myself blacklisted from AVN Online etc. so you'll never
see my name in there but I'm pretty happy with what I've
done. I've been speaking my mind this way for years now
and there are plenty of people still happy to do business
with me and they seem to profit from it. So I don't really
see any reason to show much restraint when it comes to
speaking my mind.
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