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Ginger Jolie, 23, was Penthouse magazine's Miss September 2004. We chat by phone Tuesday afternoon, February 8, 2005. Luke: "When you were a little kid [Ginger spent her first 21 years in Texas], what did you want to be when you grew up?" Ginger sighs. "Hard question. Every little girl wants to be a model or something glamorous. I had mixed feelings. I wanted to be a model and I wanted to be a pilot and I wanted to be a doctor. Everything." Luke: "What did your family and friends expect from you?" Ginger: "They expected me to do something that was really big, like a doctor. I thought I was really smart and I went to UT (University of Texas) for pre-med (bio-chem major) and then I decided that wasn't what I wanted to do with my life. "I spent one year at junior college and then two years at university." Luke: "How much chemistry did you take?" Ginger: "A lot. Enough to make me not want to do it anymore. "[Medicine] was something my parents wanted me to do but I didn't know what I wanted. So I took a break and now I'm going back to school fulltime [over the Internet, for a degree in Finance]." Luke: "What kind of crowd did you hang out with in high school?" Ginger: "Skater chicks." Luke: "What's a skater chick?" Ginger: "I skateboarded. I went to a small school. It was real judgmental. Most of the kids were big kickers -- wranglers, cowboy boots. It wasn't really my thing. "I was a cheerleader and I played basketball." Luke: "Were you always cute?" Ginger: "Yeah. In high school, I didn't think I was. I thought I was an ugly duckling. I've always been skinny with big boobs." She's never had implants. She measures 34D-24-34. She stands 5'7". Luke: "Did your teachers try to steer you in a particular direction?" Ginger: "A lot of my teachers wanted me to be more into writing. I was pretty good at writing. But I never got into it. I never really liked it." Luke: "After you dropped out of university, what did you do then?" Ginger: "I ended up waitressing. I worked at Hooters. Then I started waitressing at a strip club [in Texas]. Then I danced for a few weeks. I did my first nude photo shoot in Austin. It was not my thing at first. I was really shy. But I was broke. I put all my photos on 1modelplace.com and then I was contacted by a couple of agents (John Stephens of Matrix Models, etc) in California. I decided to come out here and try my hand at modeling." Ginger moved to Los Angeles in June of 2003. She's appeared in such magazines as Hustler, Club, High Society, Swank, Fox, Gallery. "I did the circuit." Luke: "What do you think about when you are doing a photoshoot?" Ginger: "I don't know. I really love shooting. "My best experience [in the industry] has been running my own website and being able to control that, to control my image and doing Penthouse promotions, meeting other models, and having fun. I haven't had any bad experiences. Sometimes you do things you later on wish you hadn't had done. You just learn from it." Luke: "So what do you love about the industry and not like?" Ginger: "People who aren't in the industry are really judgmental about people who are in the industry. As soon as you say you're an adult model, or nude model, you get frowned upon. It's a stupid thing in our society. Women are beautiful and the naked body is an art form. Women in Europe walk around the beach naked all the time and it's acceptable." Luke: "Have you lost friends because of your work?" Ginger: "No. The biggest thing that made me lose friends was that I moved here." Luke: "How did your family react?" Ginger: "Me and my mum have always had a great relationship. She wasn't too happy with me. But as long as I was being smart about it, and as long as I was still going to school, and I was happy, then that was a good thing. Me and my dad, we've never had a great relationship. Of course it didn't make it any better." Luke: "How do you like living in Los Angeles?" Ginger: "In Texas, everything is really slow and everybody is really laid back. LA is more of a fast-pace. I live in the Valley. It is more mellow. I can just hang out with my friends. If I want to kick it up a notch, I can go into LA. "I'm a homebody. I like to cook and garden. I go to the beach a lot." Luke: "How often do you get noticed in public?" Ginger: "Not very, but recently I got noticed. I go to this one grocery store that is close to where I live and the guy behind the meat counter recognized me. He brought in all these magazines. I know he's a fan because he has my Hustler where I have a natural look with brunette hair, and a pinup with big blonde hair. I always look different. He had every one of my magazines. "You go to the grocery store and you don't have any make-up on and you look like crap and you're wearing sweats and this guy goes, 'Are you Ginger?' Aria Giovanni lives by me. We go to the same grocery store. We've had the same problem there. We were talking about how much it sucks." Luke: "What are your ambitions?" Ginger: "I am mainly interested in financing and investing. I want to go into real estate. I play the stock market. Maybe be a Penthouse Pet of the Year." Luke: "How much of your website do you do yourself?" Ginger: "I don't do the graphics or the html. Airweb Media (Matt of Mattsmodels.com) run my site. He has a graphics designer and a programmer. I have to schedule all the photo shoots and hire all the photographers. I write in my forums. I have a sex advice column. I write in my diary and I answer my email." Luke: "Do you like to read? Read any good books lately?" Ginger: "I do like to read but I haven't had time to read anything lately." Luke: "How do you determine what your limits are?" Ginger: "I'm from a small town in Texas. When I first got in the industry, I was naive. I was never fully bi-sexual. I was curious but I was never to the place where I could replace a girl for a guy. "When I got in the industry, I thought there was no way I could do girl-girl. I'd rather do boy-girl. Then I decided I don't like the boy-girl at all. So now I do some girl-girl. I've never woken up and thought, I want to do some serious pussy today. "I did half-a-set of boy-girl, but before we did any insertion, I walked off. I didn't like it. I didn't like the guy. I don't want to have sex with a guy I don't think is hot. "Bob [Guccione] didn't want girls who did boy-girl, but now there's new ownership [of Penthouse] and they're going in the opposite direction. They want girls to do boy-girl, but I'm still not doing it." Luke: "How often do you get emails asking if you are available for escorting?" Ginger: "Every day." Luke: "Would you like to be a mainstream actress?" Ginger: "It's an awesome idea. I'd like to do it. I got with a mainstream agent and did casting calls, cattle calls, for a while. I live in the Valley now. For me to drive to LA and go to a cattle call, it takes up the whole day. And then I don't get the job. It got pointless. So I have been pursuing it. I'm working on getting my studies out of my hair and having fun." Luke: "How has being a nude model changed you?" Ginger: "The first thing of course is that it made me a lot more liberal. I didn't really know jacks--- when I got in the industry. I was so sexually naive that I didn't know what lube was. The first time I tried to have anal sex with my boyfriend, we used lotion. Getting into the industry opened my eyes and made me a lot more comfortable with myself and my body and to enjoy sex more. "It makes everybody a little bit jaded." Luke: "How old were you when you lost your virginity?" Ginger: "Fourteen. It was something where I wanted my parents' attention. My mom worked all the time. I was dating a preacher's son skater bad-boy. He was a virgin. We had sex. I thought sex was great and it sucked. I didn't have sex again until I was 18 and in college and I started realizing what was so great about it." Luke: "Have you been outside of the United States?" Ginger: "For the first time I went to Cozumel, Mexico this Christmas with my parents. I haven't been anywhere else."
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