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Jeremy Steele interviews his roommate March 18, 2003:

J:
Here I am asking questions..

F: Of Frankie La Rue. That’s me

J: I’m here with Frankie La Rue, who can be seen at www.rebspgi.com under "New Talent".

F: They can also find pics of me at "World"

J: Maybe

F: Ok. I’m Five Foot and 1/3rd, I am petite, weigh about 105-107 pounds, brown eyes, medium to long brown hair, depending on how I do it. (hee hee)

J: Looks almost kind of black to me.

F: Dark brown. Actually, my natural hair is lighter. You can see my roots. Nice tits, nice ass.

J: All natural.

F: All natural, of course. Big sunshine on my naval area that is my trademark, by the way.

J: When did you first get that done?

F: When I was 21

J: Was that before you got into the business or after?

F: Um, I think it was right before. A few months before.

J: So, it’s kind of like part of the whole coming into being Frankie La Rue. Is that when you became Frankie La Rue, for the first time?

F: No, I was still Cleopatra… Cleo

J: Oh really?

F: Yes. Cleo the nude exotic dancer who was just a chubby little girl from around the way. (5’ Foot, 120 pounds)

J: So, you have some movie credits as Cleopatra?

F: None.

J: Ok. You were just dancing as that?

F: Yep

J: Ok

F: And I did not want my dancing name to cross over because I wasn’t very fond of the dancing name after a while. My friend used to call me Cleopus. Derek from "New Jersey" (in Jersey accent). Jar Head.

J: So when did you did you do your first movie?

F: Um, The summer of 99.

J: Ok. And what was that like getting into the business?

F: Scary.

J: Why was it scary?

F: Well, because my sister-in law was there the entire time watching me getting her little cheap rocks off, being a sick bitch that she is. Rio. Trying to be an agent because she couldn’t cut it as a performer. Only had like 5 films. But, any-hoo…

J: Was she the one who kind of talked you into doing it?

F: No, man! I knew at 12 years old. The first time I saw Ron Jeremy on film, I said "Hey, I’m gonna f-ck him one day."

J: And has that happened yet?

F: No. I chickened out.

J: Yeah?

F: Yeah. Considering that the movie is as old as me I figured, you know, he’s kinda been around the block.

J: He’s half a century old, now, actually.

F: Yeah.

J: But still rocking and rolling though. About how many movies have you done at this point?

F: Mmm. About 100

J: Did you do most of them when you first started?

F: Mmm. Yeah. Kind of. I’ve had two peaks. I’m on my third peak, now.

J: Right?

F: Yeah. I got in the business and you know they played me out. I lost my car.

J: Oh yeah?

F: Yeah. My mommy took it away. My Acentra (?) Then somehow I bought some other car, and then I traded it in for that pretty truck which also got taken away.

J: Actually, the first thing I wanted to mention was that I heard that, not to long after D.U.C. of setgo.com posted that we’re roommates and our phone conversation from The Spaghetti Factory. Soon, just days after someone was telling me that they heard from someone else how that I’m roommates with Chi Chi La Rue.

F: FRANKIE La Rue. I am a very beautiful young lady, not some fat f-cking drag queen with a f-cking attitude and a slang.

J: Hearing that gave me a really bad visual of my home life according to some people. It didn’t take long for the telephone game to take strange turns.

F: I thought it was kind of funny.

J: It is funny.

F: I can just see Chi Chi bending you over.

J: Nah. You see if I was willing to go there I wouldn’t have needed you as a roommate.

F: I know, huh? You’d be rich. You’d be "Sweet Fag Boy from the Westside", man.

J: So what words would you use to describe yourself Frankie? Say on good days and/or bad days.

F: Well, there’s two sides of me. You see there’s Frankie. Then there’s ( ).. my real name.

J: So you actually are a different person.

J: Now do you refer to yourself as Frankie just on screen or just with people in the industry? Or..

F: No.

J So it’s just a lifestyle thing now?

F: It’s a lifestyle thing, you see… I am mostly Frankie. Rarely anyone gets to see ( ) And that is because ( ) is the other side. She is the quiet, reserved type. And just likes to be by herself and do her artwork And, you know…

J: So would you say the porn industry has liberated you?

F: Yeah.

J: Or did your liberation kind of proceed going into the business.

F: The porn industry helped me explore all the feelings that I had inside of me that I never thought I would be able to.

J: Regarding desire.

F: Exactely. I got to live out almost all of my fantasies, except, you know, having a cop pull me over, handcuff me and f-ck me on the bumper. That hasn’t happened yet. You know, "Hello officer. How you doing?"

J: Have you tried that last time you’ve been stopped by an officer.

F: No, but I did tell one when my friend got stopped.

J: Really?

F: Uh huh. She said "Ew. My friend thinks you’re hot." and he’s like "What?" And he’s like "Oh, I’m uh, really at work." Whatever. And I said "It’s ok, I don’t want him unless he’s gonna handcuff me and f-ck me to the bumper". He said "What?" So I repeated. Next question.

J: So, as far as words to describe yourself.

F: Oh yeah. I’m sexual. Um, kind of like an open book for one half. Felix.. The curiosity that killed the cat like Curious George or something.

J: Mm Hmm.

F: I’m an explorer.. inventor.. artist... Goddess.

J: How would you describe yourself on a bad day?

F: Um. Ever see Damian? You know, Excorcist?

J: Uh Huh. At what age did you feel your calling to become a porn star? I think you already mentioned that which is at age 12.

F: Mm Hm. Well, I always knew I either I’m gonna become a nun or a whore.

J: Yeah? Do you think a lot of nuns are really whores on the inside?

F: Yep. They just don’t express themselves. Sometimes your lust is so full you just decide to go to the extreme other way.

J: And when did it start dawning on you that you really wanted to get in the porn business? I mean when did the feelings become so strong and..

F: I got more sexual with age.

J: Was money a part of it or how significant..

F: Fame.

J: It wasn’t really about the money

F: Exploitation…

J: So it’s not about…

F: Being able to run around naked all day long and go "Look it world, I’m gorgeous!"

J: So you consider yourself and exhibitionist, of course?

F: Definitely.

J: What was your first porno scene like?

F: I only remember my second one.

J: You don’t remember your first? Or do you prefer not to?

F: It was for "Big Willys". I work with Byron Long. They said that the dialogue was kinda cheesy but when we started f-cking it was like "animal instinct". Putting it off the charts, baby. He’s still my boy. He’s my cool little stonie. The first scene. Ed Powers.. The little dick white man traumatized me.

J: So THAT was your first scene?

F: Yeah. And first anal.

J: What was traumatizing about it? His jokes? His trying to be funny?

F: He yelled at this poor camera-girl because she couldn’t get it right and she was only a student, and he made her suck his cock.

J: Really?

F: "Bitch. Look. You made my dick go down. Now suck it! And get it back up!" She ate my pussy and licked my nipples too. She had very nice breasts. Very, very nice breasts.

J: So you have a thing for women, then?

F: Love women. Don’t eat pussy. The sushi I like is at a sushi bar.

J: So you’re a lesbian with limits.

F: Exactely. I’m a receiver, not a giver.

J: Are you proud to be a porn star?

F: Hell Yeah!

J: What do you think of certain people who say porn is the lowest thing you can do?

F: Don’t knock it till you try it. You might like it.

J: What do you think of someone like former Surgeon General C. Everett Koop who recently said on national T.V. that people who porn really hate the people they watch?

F: There is truth in it.

J: You think so? Don’t you think…

F: It disgusts them because they have such a lust in their loins and they hate themselves for not being able to respect themselves

J: Exactely. My point was gonna be what he should really look at is himself. I think Koop…

F: Exactely! I think they are more sicker.(giggle)

J: I think Koop has flown the Coop…

F: Hey man. Don’t be disgusted at me. You’re the one watching me and getting your f-ckng rocks off.

J: Exactely. All Koop is really revealing is his contempt for himself. Or at the very least, the way the product is made..

F: Like me, I don’t like watching my own scenes except once to critique them. Or anybody that I would be dating. I don’t need to see it. I see it in person.

J: You’re not one of those people who gets turned on by watching movies of yourself getting f-cked?

F: Not unless it’s D.P. Because if D.P.’s in it, Hell Yeah.

J: So I presume that your first D.P. experience was on camera? When did your fantasy of getting D.P’d first happen? Actually, let me ask you first, when did you first become interested in getting f-cked in the ass and when did that happened. Was that first experience..

F: I was 20. Around 20.

J: So you weren’t in the business yet?

F: Yeah. I wasn’t in the business. Um. I barely started watching girl/boy video with my one secret admirer who I’m not going to mention on this, who actually made me climax first.

J: From f-cking you in the ass?

F: No, from eating my pussy. Getting strangled. Had to have head way off the bed. God I was stuck on that mode for probably about a year and a half. I could not cum if you did not strangle me with my head off the bed while you had both of my nipples in your hand eating my pussy watching a porno of Asian girls.

J: We’ll have to try that later.

F: Ass!

J: You think, going back to the last subject, that people who hate sex, do you think it’s sexuality and desire, itself? Is it the sex that they hate or just the way that it’s portrayed or strange people having sex with each other?

F: I think it’s the environment in which they came from.

J: Does the idea of having sex with someone you don’t know make it more exciting?

F: Yes.

J: Sort of like people going out to have fun at bars, looking to take someone home?

F: Yup. But you always have to do the dick check, because I’ve had some really, really sad incidents where I’ve just totally turned the guy down.

J: What?

F: I mean my pussy wet. "Oh my God. I bet he’s good in bed!" And then you go home and you have like no package and like 3-4 in the morning trying to cheese this guy up so you don’t look too much like a slut. Then he has nothing and you’re like "Get the f-ck out! Kick rocks motherf-cker! Sick f-ck. Go jack off with your blue balls"

J: "Kick rocks" does that mean "f-ck off"?

F: Yup. "Get the hell out!"

J: Now, what’s the minimum length requirement?

F: There really is none.

J: What are you lowering your standard?

F: Just not too little. You at least have to be of the MTV’s poll, you know 5.75.

J: What is that, the medium average?

F: Mm Hm.

J: So you have to be medium average?

F: You know I like them about 7 inches and about I don’t know. Corona this big. As long as it’s cool. (larger width than a silver dollar)

J: That’s just for the guys out there that might meet you one day

F: Yeah. If you’re not packing at least 6 inches and a couple inches round, Kick Rocks!

J: I’ve seen a couple of scenes of yours from movies that I rented. Extreme Teens 23.

F: Oh. Valentino and Brian Surewood.

J: As you remember.

F: Valentino really did make me feel like a little underaged slut. Brian Surewood made me think of like a sufer uncle who I never met who I was intrigued by because he was so weird and just yeah.. he was awesome!

J: Yeah. He’s a cool guy.

F: Very good in bed.

J: I had a good whack to that to be honest with you. And what I liked was…

F: Oh yeah. Two big cocks. D.P. What’s there not to like? "Come here you little slut. Wanna be a big girl? Suck this dick while I f-ck you in your ass"

J: I liked how you acted real innocent, but it was sort of like you were playing that way and you really weren’t.

F: I thought my acting sucked in that movie.

J: Nah. Actually, to me, it turned me on. You have a very natural comfortable ease and earthiness and playfulness about you.

F: That’s because of the guys I was working with.

J: I noticed..

F: His dick is still getting hard. Check. Go.

J: The Sugarwalls 36 I saw as well, that was with a friend, Guy De Silva.

F: That was the second Sugarwalls I did. First Sugarwalls was with Rupert? Huber? Mark Anthony? Lexington Steele? One of those four. Because I did Superfreaks 2 (?) with the other two whoever they were.

J: Oh, by the way, I wanted to mention earlier on you told me that you have some, let us say "royalty" in your blood. First of all you didn’t tell us what your heritage is.

F: Taste the rainbow.

J: You definitely have a look that suggests could be Puerto Rican, part Hispanic, part black as well…

F: Spanish, White, Creole basically. To break it down.

J: Didn’t you say Irish, as well?

F: Irish is white

J: I know

F: Because I have like 4 things of white in me

J: Yeah.

F: So it’s like.. OK.

J: And you said you have relation..

F: to Fredrick Douglas

J: and George Washington Carver

F: Through marriage, about 5, 6 generations back on my father’s side. You know just to show you we don’t go for ignorant people.

J: So would it be accurate considering the blood influence of one being an abolitionist and the other a scientist that you are both high on freedom as well as being intelligent, analytical?

F: When you break it down, I come from artists and inventors. We invent. We build. We create.

J: And speaking of having black in you, lets get back to what it was like working with..

F: I love black men. When it’s big, fat and hard.

J: Is there a size that’s too big for you?

F: Um. I’ve had two people that were too big. One I’m not gonna say. Oh yeah, I’m pretty sure she knows by now. But Jack Napier. I kinda f-cked around off film. I’ve known him for years, man, and I always wanted to f-ck him. First time I saw his dick. He was at the shoot of "Gentlemen Prefer Bronze" and he was not in that movie. And that’s how I remember. He gave me a Puerto Rican flag. I was like "Yeah, borigua (spelling?? She said it mean's Puerto Rican). He’s the sh-t! It took me three years to lay that motherf-cker. Did it in my ( )

J: Did it in your back seat?

F: God damn, Man. I’m telling you. In that f-cking truck you can’t run away from a big dick like that. It’s just impossible.

J: Geez.

F: Yeah, man. He was so f-cking wide, man.. could barely fit it in my pussy.

J: What did you use brake fluid to get it in or what?

F: He hee hee. You know how I keep my truck, man. I carry everything with me.

J: So you’re saying that was a little bit too big, then?

F: No. I want to try it again, but my pussy really did hurt after. Oh man, I was walking like I was riding a horse for a few days.

J: Now, it’s about how big you’d say?

F: About my arm, from here to here.. from about the wrist to about the elbow. Now look at that, ok? I was like licking his dick while he was f-cking my pussy, it was so big.

J: Yeah.

F: Yeah. I think my hips gained a few inches.

J: Now, did he push it all the way in? Did he go balls deep or what?

F: Um. He got it almost all the way in, but not balls deep. Not to wear the balls are pushing. You know. Because I’m five foot. Hello?

J: I mean where did that thing go?

F: One foot. He was like up near the diaphragm.

J: Yeah, knocking against your rib cage.

F: Yeah, dude. I was like, "I think I can taste your dick".

J: Now you said though that your ideal dick size is around 7".

F: About 7-8 inches, yeah. I like it just beyond my reach. If you’re not gonna be my reach, be just beyond. Yeah baby! That way you can hear unusual sounds.

J: So with the super-big-dicks, do you think it’s more of just the thrill of trying it rather than..

F: Yeah, it is trying it and being able to take it. And it’s just like "Oh, hell, yeah!", you know? Even though you’re hurting and walking funny after..

J: But it’s not as much like you wanna have that on a daily basis? Or would you if you..

F: Oh no, man! My pussy would probably never snap back into place.

J: So do you have any favorite black performer or is there any kind of memorable scenes you’ve had with some well-endowed black guys?

F: (laughing) I made Wesley Pipes my bitch.

J: Oh yeah?

F: I scared him. I scared him. Don’t say bitch. I mean I made him submissive to me. I was the one talking sh-t. That was cool because he was like "Don’t be so mean." But, dicks in the business? I don’t know. Most of them are cool, you know? I do wanna f-ck Sean Michaels, though. I never f-cked him before. Everytime I went to the office he’s always out of town. I wonder if he just doesn’t want to f-ck me.

J: Nah. I think it’s just that he’s a bit allusive.

F: But I heard he’s a lot of fun.

J: Oh yeah? I definitely perceive the sense of fun and casual anticipation that you had in your scenes. Sort of a nice real feeling, nasty, slutty thing.

F: "I like to f-ck" thing?

J: Yeah.

F: True.

J: Do you wish that guys could have two dicks so that you could do D.P.’s more often? Because it sure looked like you were enjoying it.

F: No. I like the bodies.

J: Bodies? More hands, more tounges, more action, more cock. Hello? I mean why get a guy with two cocks when you can have two guys and two cocks?

J: Makes sense, doesn’t it?

F: Mmm Hmm.

J: I saw one of those "freak of nature" videos a long time ago that showed a guy with two dicks but Jim South told me that the sh-t isn’t real.

F: Darn. Do you still have that movie? I wanna see it.

J: Yeah, I do. That explains why the guy was moaning particularly harder when he one particular dick sucked versus the other. Um. So do you have assgams, or an anal G- spot?

F: Um. I wouldn’t exactly say an anal G-spot. But, yes. I do cum quicker when you f-ck me in my ass.

J: When I f-ck you in the ass?

F: No… When I get f-cked in the ass. That’s how I used to masturbate.

J: Really?

F: Uh huh. f-ck my self up the ass with my big, pink dildo while I’m masturbating with my pink egg. Actually, I think it was cream. I don’t know, man. I’ve had so many f-cking little aids. You know me, I’m "Pocket Rocket Queen".

J: What is your favorite sexual toy? Is it the pocket rocket?

F: Mmm (laughing). I’ll show you. I got it right here. Ooh De Lolly! Oh my God.

J: It looks like a little ribbed Vienna Sausage, here with another one attached by two cords connecting to one thing.

F:(inaudible cutesy mutterings)… If you stick this up in ass since it’s ribbed, it won’t slide out. It’ll just kind of "zzzt zzz zzziipp"

J: So you stick that one in your ass and you vibrate yourself with that one?

F: Uh-huh!

J: And what’s that called? Do you know?

F: I don’t know. Here. Taste it.

(Jeremy laughs. Then, Frankie puts the toy next to the recorder and it sounds like a loud buzz saw going and chopping something off.. Frankie laughs tee hee)

J: Do you think you do better sex scenes if they allow you to play with your toy of preference before a scene?

F: Oh, Hell No man! When I com I f-cking push away, I knock people out. I try to choke you.

J: Yeah.

F: And then I just crawl into the fetal position and go to sleep.

J: Do you have any fantasies that you’d like to play out on camera?

F: Yes. Handcuff me and f-ck me to the bumper.

J: So the guy playing the cop like you were saying?

F: Yeah. And I’ve never f-cked on a horse before.

J: Really.

F: I f-cked near one.

J: Have you ever f-cked a horse?

F: No. I can’t clean one. You know you have to do that.

J:

Really?

F:Yeah, you have to take this big-ass Q-tip and shove it in their little cock and go like that and f-cking clean it.

J: Before you have sex with it?

F: No, just in general. They can’t wash their dicks. They can’t suck their own dick clean.

J: sh-t.

F: So you have to clean it for them.

(Jeremy shakes his head)

F: Yeah, I’ll pass too.

J: The other night it seemed a fan might have had a brush with fame after we left the bar soon after the last call for alcohol, we walked outside and there was some brother there and he looked at you and saw your belly tattoo and said "I know that tattoo!" Do you ever think about how many people might know you?

F: I’ve gotten it, actually, quite often.

J: Yeah? By name?

F: No. The tattoo.

J: So the tattoo makes a good connection?

F: (and) the gap.

J: And the gap in your teeth?

F: Mm hm. They say I’m very unique.

J: So as they’re stroking off, those visuals are just imprinted in their mind like a branding.

F: The first time that someone noticed me, it was really funny. It was New Years Eve in Las Vegas. Some little old asian lady. (in Chinese-like accent: ) "You. You. You Freaky La Rue. We has been in book store. You f-cka Good!" She f-cking asked for my autograph, took pictures and everything. I was like "Yeah, baby!" There was like a whole bunch of young marines, you know, looking at that and the next thing you know, everyone was following me around, and I was like, "cool".

J: The other night at the bar, you had something quite something about ya, the way you just dressed all sexy and strutted your stuff. You had the attention of every guy in the club.

F: And half the girls.

J: Yeah, and even outside the club, except for the guy who was sitting puking off the curb, you had eye of everybody around you.

F: I was wearing hot pink. I mean, in a 1970’s rabbit fur coat with a hood.

J: Yeah. You had the sh-t going on.

F: Hell, yeah, Man! Me and my pink furry panda shoes? Baby, I was the Sheet.

J: Do you think there’s a slut in every girl?

F: No.

J: Is it the inner slut the girl has to find in herself or does it just not exist in certain ones?

F: I think it is true. Some women are just cold fish.

J: Yeah.

F: Yup.

J: It’s a sad thing.

F: Some women can’t even get wet.

J: That’s really sad.

F: Yeah, man. I know somebody. Her man left her ‘cause her pussy wouldn’t get wet.

J: Do you have any regrets about being in the porn business? You don’t have to be specific.

F: Yes.

J: Anything you’d like to say?

F: I lost one man that I truly wanted to be with, because he had two little very cute 5 year old responsibilities. And he did not their new person in there life to be part of it.

J: So he knew what you were doing. You didn’t try to hide it from him?

F: No. I tried to at first. I learned my lesson. The lesson was don’t lie anymore about dumb sh-t.

J: Because it’s inevitable that he’d find out?

F Yeah basically

J: This is one of the ramifications of being in the business and how it effects the personal life. I know as a male performer basically telling a girl what I doing is a death sentence for me relationship-wise.

F: That’s because they don’t know that you’re just Jeremy. What comes into a girl’s head is that he’s a performer. He’s a whore. We don’t need him. Go.

J: Well maybe. When do you remember having your first sexual desire, and when did you first masturbate?

F: I don’t remember. I think I remember being 6, 7 years old. You know how that experimental phase when you’re a baby goes and you’re like finding everything?

J: You started touching yourself?

F: And I never stopped. I couldn’t wait to get tits. Even when I had tiny little sproutings, I said "Look I got boobies. Wanna suck them?"

J: You parents ever catch you masturbating?

F: I think my brother did. I think he found some toys in my bed.

J: How many times on average do you think you jerk off per day?

F: Not all the time. I’d say maybe, three times a week. I’ve got a boyfriend now, so I don’t have to jerk-off as much.

J: You jerk off while you’re getting f-cked by your boyfriend?

F: No, I jerk off after.

J: You usually jerk-off after?

F: No. Sometimes I come too many times. Therefore I’m all tapped out. But no matter whether I come or not, I still like to play with my toy. It’s a different cuming sensation. That’s what men tend to forget. It feels (laughs) good when you’re pussy’s just going "mmmmmm-mm"

J: Any goals you have in the business?

F: Yes. There’s one thing in particular that.. he just needs to be in the business. He’s just been waiting for something new like that. My ex-fiance. He needs to because he’s a whore! He’s got a big dick. Balls that turn into the shapes of hearts. Good lay, but a little bit aggressive. He’d be good in the business. And I just wanna do one film. His posture is perfect for the camera. I mean’s he’s got all the angles down perfect for the camera the way he comes down on it. He stays far enough away to where you can see the titties all bouncing all nice. Perfect.

J: But he’s your ex so that probably won’t happen?

F: sh-t. Man, I’d still pimp him.

J: Any long range goals in the business?

F: Yes. Kind of. I want to, you know, be remembered. You know, in a good way. And I want my own line.

J: What kind of style would it be? Lot’s of D.P. action?

F: D.P. action. Definitely.

J: Big black dicks?

F: Yeah. The girls would hate me. Because I’d just like to see the littlest girls being f-cked the sh-t out of, and they’d better be rolling their eyes like that movie you showed me the other day. "Oh my God! Ew--ewww!" You know, almost crying, but with pleasure.

J: That’s the sh-t.

F: Mm hm. Also I wanna do a dominatrix thing. Tie a guy up, spank him.

J: Is that a revenge thing for the fetish job you just did the other day?

F: Yeah. My body’s still kind of sore, man. I’m sorry, my pussy’s still red from that pussy getting whipped. But it was kind of fun though. I liked the cage.

J: Ok, I think we’ve said enough.

F: Bye.