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Friday, December 10, 1999

Al Robles Tossed

Armed guards entered World News this week and threw out veteran Paul Wisner employee Al Robles for stealing. My source says he heard the news from Ronnie Wasserman, the son of Howie Wasserman, co-owner of Gourmet Video.

John Lee writes: There is a post on Julia Parton"s web site message board saying she was in a major car accident Dec. 8 and is in the hospital suffering serious injuries. A year ago she supposedly hurt her knee and there was an appeal for donations for surgery. Is this latest post true or just setting her fans (suckers) up for another donation? Any info - give us the scoop, Luke. John

Metro Delisted From Nasdaq

AVN.com reports that Metro Global Media has been delisted from NASDAQ.

From http://www.avn.com/html/avn/news/nws/news1051.html:

Metro Los Angeles spokesman Greg Alves says NASDAQ told the company there "is a public interest concern" with a Metro shareholder, which is unrelated to a class action suit filed recently by another shareholder accusing the company of financial impropriety.

"It's not tied to the class action suit," Alves tells AVN On The Net. "(NASDAQ)'s a business like any other business, and they can choose who they want to do business with and who they don't."

He also says the Metro de-listing won't affect four other adult entertainment businesses that trade on the NASDAQ composite.

"Although we are disappointed by their decision, day to day business will be unaffected," says chief financial officer Janet Hoey in a company statement, adding Metro stock will now trade on National Quotations Bureau (www.otcquote.com). "Revenues continue to rise and the company continues to build shareholder equity."

Metro had been suspended from NASDAQ listing earlier this fall because it was late in filing the required 10k report with the Securities and Exchange Commission. Hoey says NASDAQ de-listed Metro despite acknowledging that, in an statement she attributes to NASDAQ, "[Metro] currently appears to be in compliance with the filing, audit committee, and independent director requirements." Metro has until Dec. 22 to ask NASDAQ to review the decision. Hoey says the company will make that request while considering listing options with still other stock exchanges, both at home and abroad.

Marry A Millionaire

Luke F-rd goes on Toronto radio station Talk640 AM Friday afternoon at 5:05 EST, 2:05 PST to discuss his entrance into the Marry A Millionaire game show.

Many of Luke's readers do not know that thanks to stock options in FANtasiconline.com, Luke is now a millionaire.

Delaney Daniels, Heaven Leigh, and Cherry Mirage will sign for FANtastic! at CES along with Luke.

The host on Talk640 this afternoon is Marsha Leiderman, "a jewish girlie," according to a source. "She is cool on air - a bitch off air."

Sergio writes: Hey, Luke, so you're a millionaire? I wanna marry you! Just tell me when. I'm already circumsized.

MILLIONAIRE SEEKS BRIDE By NY POST TV STAFF

Hey girls. Wanna marry a multi-millionaire -- on live TV in front of millions of viewers? In Las Vegas, yet? You'll get your chance, now that the search is on to find contestants for "Who Wants to Marry a Multi-Millionaire?" a two-hour special being developed for Fox. The special has no airdate or host yet, but is hoping to cash in on the success of ABC's "Who Wants to Be a Millionaire." The big difference here: "Multi-Millionaire" includes a question mark in its title, unlike ABC's show. "Multi-Millionaire" producers put the word out yesterday that during the next month, they'll be searching for "any and all women" 18 and older to become "Mrs. Multi-Millionaire." A minimum of 50 candidates will be selected and flown to Las Vegas for an all-expenses-paid trip to snag the (monied) bachelor of their dreams. Contestants need to submit a "brief and creative, if not outrageous" videotape explaining why they should be the next "Mrs. Multi-Millionaire." All tapes must include name, address, phone number and birthdate and should be sent to: I'm Your Bride c/o Next Entertainment 12333 W. Olympic Blvd. Suite 134 Los Angeles CA 90064. Videos will not be returned. And all male millionaires looking for a potential bride should call the show's producers at 310-207-3577, ext. 204. The show is being executive-produced by Mike Fleiss.

Porno Dave Michaels from www.talkingblue.com writes: Luke, I don't know where one finds this "FEVI" company. It's not on the Nasdaq or Dow Jones. I really hope you get something out of that company. Until they wire over at least $50,000 into your personal savings acoount, I wouldn't believe a word from that guy in Canada. I already know about all the troubles with that mag of theirs just making it to print. Go rent "South Park: The Movie", it is the only real way to deal with Canadians.

FANtastic's Craig Vasiloff: "Who is Dave Michaels?"

Luke: "Talkingblue.com"

Craig: "Oh, the dickhead. Is he the fat one or the fat one?"

Stacy Valentine writes Luke: "Listen I dont know what your problem is?... First off what I do in my personal life is none of your or anyones business... If I do something within the industry thats fair game but, stay out of my personal life. If your going to put something on the web check with me first. I should have the oppurtunity to know what you are going to put up on the web before you do it. Its not that hard you know where I am. You could check with me anytime just to be professional. I mean this is f---in bulls---. I here about this s--- you wrote from a person in my fan club. You could have told me ahead of time."

Szigmund Freud writes: I once read that Max Hardcore was chased out of a Hungarian town by a bunch of fathers whose daughters he'd poked on screen? Is this true? If you're reading this, Maxie, what gives? A friend who visited Hungary recently remarked that you must be careful with the Hungarian women because, if you f--- them, you may have to marry them. Clearly this rule doesn't apply to our Budapest sisters, but porno girls always were a breed apart.

Hanco Fronts For Extreme Associates

Taylor writes: Hello Luke, One of my models/talent has explained to me that she recently found out that a company that approached her, and shot her and her friends for "Internet Stills" called Hanco Entertainment Internet Multimedia is actually a front for Extreme Associates. I understand that the folks at Hanco are acquiring new models/talent to do "Photo Layouts for the Internet", many times a boy-girl or girl-girl layout, and shooting video (most of the time without the consent of the models, and without additional payment to the models) of the scene. They have apparently found a number of new models, and some not-so-new models to do "scenes" for them at a greatly reduced price.

If most of these folks knew it was for Extreme Associates, I have been told they would probably NOT have done the shoots, or at the very least, asked for their normal scene rate. I understand that the porn business has many folks that are less than truthful in their dealings with talent, I just wanted to give a "heads-up" to some of the folks who read your web site. The bottom line is that once you sign your model release, whatever the producer wants to do with your footage is up to him/her/them. Hanco's phone number is 805-370-8900, they are located in Camarillo, CA., The person in charge there is named "Price".

Moffit Timlake writes: Good morning Luke, I just read the allegation that Hanco is a front for Extreme. I would like to know the basis for this claim. I met Price at the Miami IA2000 show and he and his outfit seemed pretty autonomous- besides, how would "a front for Extreme" actually work? Also, given Rob Black's penchant for taking the limelight, why would he have anyone front for him? Who is Taylor? I think someone is giving Extreme a little too much credit and simultaneously maligning Price. That's merely my observation.

Taylor responds: Follow up... Now I understand that they may be two separate companies legally, however Price from Hanco may have invested money in to EXTREME to get content for their web site.. They are doing business together, and have admitted it to some of my models.. My understanding is that today their was to be a big shoot at Hanco, and that Extreme was to be on the set, and now many of the talent have canceled. Moffit Timlake may be unaware of just how close Hanco and Extreme really are.

Luke Dates

Luke had a dinner date tonight with a friend he met via the internet, Hymie Levinstein, who carried a shopping bag of gifts for his girlfriend. After dinner at Jozu at 8360 Melrose, we went back to my place and called porn stars. We couldn't find Kendra because she was busy getting naked on James DiGiorgio's couch. She goes under the knife Friday to get her nose straightened. Eventually Hymie and I got Nice Jewish Girl and Brandy Alexandre on the line. And while we talked to Brandy and NJG, we watched my bestiality video. Hymie was jetlagged, I figured he needed that kick to keep him awake.

Whenever I bring guys back to my place, we end up calling porn stars.

NJG: Luke you know that guy in your house was gay right?

Brandy then tried to get onto PST but Zoe kicked her.

BrandyAlx1: Zoe banned me from PsT. Only said she hates me. We have NEVER had a spat. We got along great every time I was in there. I think they brainwash people
Luzdedos1: zoe says you once used her name in irc?
BrandyAlx1: No. The closest I can come to that is we discussed her name
BrandyAlx1: I think she got mad at me one time because I forgot she was in the room and I diss one-name porn stars. But she was cool after that
BrandyAlx1: Is Hymie gay? His voice set off my "gaydar
Luzdedos1: don't think so
BrandyAlx1: I guess I just expect straight men to jump at the mere mention of me popping over for a visit. ;)
Luzdedos1: we were both exhausted, sorry

Becky Carols writes: Luke, I really wish you wouldn't post Brandy's rantings anymore. She's almost as annoying as that Nice Jewish Girl. Thank Jesus you got rid of her! The fact is, if it weren't for the net, none of us would even know who the hell Brandy is. She's an average looking broad who was a mediocre porn performer. She's using you to get free publicity for her book that she's been working on for what, over 3 years now? It must be around a 1,000 pages by now, huh? Don't count on it. She's been out of porn for about 7 years and doesn't have a clue about the current smut industry. She herself admitted she hasn't seen a porn flick in years! BTW Brandy, I told you geekboy would use you and dump you, didn't I? Why don't you finally take my advice so that you can actually keep a man for once in your life? I have to agree with that skank Bianca Trump, get a job! Become a hooker like BT, do something instead of getting handouts from taxpayers!

Brandy: One of these days you're going to post this response because now there are two extremely misinformed (dare I say ignorant?) people marking jackasses of themselves. Unemployment benefits are not taxpayer dollars. They are confusing it with their welfare checks.

Mike South writes: Hey Luke if Zoe kick banned Brandy from pst she did EXACTLY what she is supposed to do as an op, she upheld the rules. Good for Zoe, Zoe is intelligent and as sweet a person as I have ever met in this biz but beyond that she has served pst well, is a regular participant and when she gets op'd she handles the job responsibly.

You know Luke, what is really sad is how badly Brandy wants back INTO pornstar-trading, if we are so bad then why does she want so desperately to hang with us? It actually does my heart good to see her dying in oblivion, it's her worst nightmare and she brought it on herself. She owns 3 chats on Newnet, at least 3 why doesn't she push those? The answer is simple, she has alienated all but a few people...Hey Brandy...from me to you...don't go away mad honey.....Just GO AWAY!

Chaim Amalek writes: Luke, I had a feeling of deja vu today reading your web site. Recall that when I was in LA a few weeks ago, I called you and we chatted over the phone for a while. I had planned to meet up with you at that Jew Party that evening, but then the doubts started.

You began talking about your favorite video tapes. These were not tapes starring your friends Kendra or Tammy or Brandy or Honey. No, the tapes you spoke on and on about were about Flicka, Trigger, some pitiful unknown woman who was once someone's baby daughter, and were of an equestrian nature.

After a few minutes of this conversation, I found myself wondering just what manner of person I had been corresponding with. I did meet up with you the following evening, and found you to be mostly normal in appearance and in demeanor. The guy next door.

Still, your repeated offer to show me "the tape" really creeped me out, and I have a pretty high tolerance level for statistically outlying folks. (A couple of years ago I dated a NYC performance artist who, within the bounds of our species, was way out there. But even she, I am sure, would draw the line at this.) But anything to do with, uh, that sort of stuff is not my bag. Nor is it any normal person's bag either.

That Hymie guy you met, what was his reaction to the tape? The mental image of two grown men, going out to dinner (was any wine consumed?) and then meeting back in your apartment, behind a locked gate, in a small confined space containing a gun, to watch such a video sounds like the opening scene of a gay snuff film. Did either of you giggle during the showing of the tape? Did either of you become aroused?

[Luke: We giggled. I do not know if Hymie was aroused.]

Chaim: This is very, very, very disturbing. You really need to get some smart head doc to look you over if that sort of s--- turns you on. That sort of stuff should NOT be in your possession. Seriously, if I were you, I would demagnatize the tape (and any others like it that you may possess), unspool it, cut it into smaller parts, apply glue to the resulting mess and ball it up into a tangle, and then bury it deeply in the trash for pick-up and transport to the town dump or incinerator. Some things should not be in anyone's possession, even as a novelty item.

Keep your focus on the woman you will marry thanks to the miracle of jewish television, and your duty to humiliate Fox television. (Owned by that dirty Aussie *** Rupport Murdoch. And don't tell me he is not Jewish. Everyone in TV is jewish.)

Best wishes for a peaceful Sabbath.

Luke: Chaim, you are so judgemental.

Chaim: Luke, regarding the Millionaire show some far-thinking social thinker told you about, DON'T YOU EVEN THINK ABOUT BACKING OUT! The assholes who thought of this show, their sponsors, and especially Fox, DESERVE to be made fools of! Trust me, this would be a great mitzvah for you. Goddamn you better go to that show, and you better make a full press effort to get on! Tell 'em you are a convert to Judaism, do NOT go too deeply into the porn s---, tell them that you are a lonely geeky internet millionaire in need of a wife. I and others will help you out if you need more ideas, references, forged documents etc. This would be a big break for you, and for all of the world's hovel-dwelling men. This really is a big deal. This show BEGS to be hacked!!!! You get your ass on that show, or I will start writing these letters to Mike Albo, and try to get HIM on that show!

Aryan Brothers Reply To Tony Everready

Arnold Potter: My able bodied Aryan brothers pointed out to me that on your site today my previous communication was addressed. I must admit I was quite surprised you printed it. I am not surprised by the response, niggers are a group of people who are not to articulate and by the way this coons message reads this nigger is not to intelligent.

Luke this goes to show you why our good white women should avoid these jungle bunnies. all niggers understand is violence and drugs. I will call the little nigger on his white owned cell phone and invite him to our ARYAN BROTHERS meeting this weekend in Vista, Ca.

Luke we are a peaceful organization all we want is for the niggers to understand where they belong which is behind and beneath the white race. Also luke help us spread the word we no longer want to see our white women degraded by the touch of a nigger. The ONLY INTERRIACIAL we should see in adult movies is WHITE MEN WITH NIGGER WOMEN.

Luke: Does it bother you that I am a homosexual Jew?

Arnold Potter: Yes it is dissapointing that you are a hated Jew you must also be dealt with. Do not play with us. Please go to our site the real message is there for all the good white people the true rulers. http://www.christian-aryannations.com.

The truth is there and you will have the opportunity to change your evil ways. By the way we called the nigger he did not answer his phone we will keep trying

Frank Whiteguy writes: Luke I am a new reader to your site and I agree with some of the things that are on it, but I had to answer that idiot from the arayan brotherhood(notice the little a). It is so apparent that you feel inferior to the black male, why I don't know? The answer may lay in the trailer park you grew up in or you could ask your parents since they grew up in the same house as brother and sister.But jerks like you make me laugh so much because a lot of your wives and girlfriends are out f---ing the so called mud people while you are running around in the woods in your white sheets.So welcome to the new world order and guess who is cumming to dinner.

Roy writes: Luke, You have an interesting site. It allows us to get an insight into the world of adult entertainment. However, it is appalling to know that you allowed some racists to print his comments on your website. Maybe you felt this viewpoint has to be expressed. Maybe you felt that this type of ignorance needs to be displayed. People need to know that this type of stupidity and prejudice still exists and in fact thrives today, just as it did a hundred years ago. It is so sad to know that there a people that are so ignorant to believe that they are superior because of the color of their skin. There are intelligent, eloquent, artistic, talented, and beautiful people in all races. We are all human and we must treat one another with the respect we would like from others.

Done writes: Those Aryan Brothers are hilarious Luke. I want to see more of that s--- on the site. I love the fact that there are people still so f---ing stupid in this world. Dont they realize that this is the new Millenium and that s--- is done? I would like to call all my black brothers to rise up and go to the Aryan rally this weekend and take em all out. The time has come.

Munky: hey luke, just a quick comment on the ignorant redneck on your site today. i understand his repetitive use of the word nigger since is probably one of the few he knows but have a problem with his views on interracial scenes. how is it wrong for a black man to stick it to a white female yet is ok when its a white male putting it to a black girl. can you or anyone else shed some light as to how this seems to be correct in their eyes and please don't give me the bulls--- line of it being like back in the old days, stickin it to a slave.

Steve at Legend Video writes: maybe the ayrian asswipe should read his own words, then figure out who's ignorant. it's assholes like him who keep racism and the tention that comes along with it alive. get over it already. it's amazing in this day and age that s--- still exists. if these racists most from the south i would presume, would stop f---ing their sisters and sheep, and went to school, maybe the world would be a better place. in any event i know tony everready can handle himself, hell i'll even give him a ride to the fight.

Arch Stanton writes: Long time Luke. I haven't been around in a while. But after reading about the Porscha-Ever-ready soap opera I realize that the more things change the more they remain the same. (ahhhh yeah pretty profound or just a nonsensical philosophy -------- or both) Just a word or two of advice for Tony: It's not always smart to acknowledge salient points about an ongoing murder case in a public forum. If Det. Lombreras (sp?) gets wind of that article could he not use it as evidence? Or at least charge Tony with obstruction of justice if he doesn't tell all he knows? Hey Im no lawyer so I could be wrong. (wouldnt be the first time) And now back to "He says She says" starring Denzel Washington as Tony Everready and Vanessa Del Rio as Porscha.

Tony Everready writes: whats up luke this is tony eveready i'm just writing to let XXX know that as far as i know alyssa allure doesn't do drugs.we hang out sometimes cause she's good people and keeps it real.we're friends and do good scenes together.do people remember the meaning of friends?and no i don't deal drugs i make good money doing the movies.and no i'm not implying that she and i are intimate.but off camera i do only sleep with industry women for the most part.its safer disease control wise and i spend most my day around the biz anyway.who all i am sleeping with though isn't for the site to know.

as to you Mr Jackass who called porsha and i mud people check this out,Porsha is a Cubana dumbf---.and Africans invented so long before anyone else.but we can meet anywhere cuzz! I PROMISE YOU A SEVERE ASSBEATING LOC!!!so we can do this anytime my cellphone #(818)693-1070 call me and lets get busy.since you wanna speak outta pocket on me i'll get ignorant right with u this s--- ain't me i'm about my work and money.but i know no matter your size nor lack of intelligence i throw these hands too swell in a street fight and would enjoy beating your ass for trying to be disrespectful toward me or my skin color.so let's see if u got heart u lil bitchboy.don't hide behind no keyboard,be a real man!?

Luke i also wanna say i was way wrong though in airing two things on Porsha in my anger to her lies. 1)speaking on anything her brother said in his dying days,that wasn't right regardless cause thats not the type of person i am period. 2)f--- what i said about a murder setup i got nothing to say that s--- too was out of character,i still don't know nothing anger said that u feel me . thanx for your time though in replaying that interview and i appreciate u allowing me to speak my defense.if at any time i came at u wrong Luke excuse me .it was just misdirected.i try to be nice with everyone til they do me wrong.

Luke: Mad Jackass is not Mad Jack. He was not XXX, my source.

Truths Guardian writes: Hello Luke, Interesting piece on Arnold Potter. The blissful ignorance of racism still shows its ugly head on the verge of the turn of the millennium. It is a breath of fresh air that most racist people, not all, but most, are not in a position of leadership. They usually ride the coat tails of people who are far more advanced. This goes for all races that have individuals that represent the Potter's of the world. The fact is most of the human race have slowly evolved and moved on to diversify the human race with smarter, healthier, stronger, human beings than ever before by staying away from such practices as inbreeding and keeping breeding within races. But beyond that, people are not ignorant anymore and are not scared of being civilized as they were back in the 18th-20th centuries. The Potters of the human race are dinosaurs and will wither away in the ice age. So to all the racist folks who may see this message, your own morality and the morality of your children are in question. Bottom line, socialize who you want to socialize with and f--- who you want to f---. Enjoy life, it is short enough as it is. At least you Luke, are posting an on going problem of racism. We will see what happens next.

James Bell writes: It amazes me that lack of journalistic integrity surrounding the adult film business. Anyone who reads AVN knows that it is a non-objective PR fluff magazine. There is only one view presented in anything associated with the AVN that is pro-AVN.

So along comes Luke F-rd, a supposed journalist who is going to get to the bottom of things. The catch is that Luke F-rd is lazy. The site could be so much better if LF spent more time digging up stuff. There are so many areas LF could go into and he relies on he said she said bulls---.

So when REAL journalists write about the adult film industry it is plain as day the overwhelming ego's and biases are impossible to ignore. So when the legitimate entertainment press went after the AVN awards it is no wonder that they exposed what is already there. It must be a hatchet piece if the legitimate press sees obvious corruption, right?

When someone who has no connections at all with the INDUSTRY, (as Gene Ross is so quick to point out that is impossible to get into so don't bother trying) and they write what they see then it must be crap.

The way it is going with pornography becoming more and more mainstream there are going to be much more pieces done about it. An ethical journalist is going to have a field day. What is really going on will come to be very entertaining fro multitudes of people.

You take a bunch of people who could not make it in anything else, ie. Gene Ross, Fishbein, LF, Jane Hamilton, Adam Glasser extc extc. and pit them against people who are legitimate successes in the media and they will tear you to pieces. Even the stuff that comes across PRnews wire is often unreadable and is passed around and laughed at. Luke, realize your potential and spend more time improving your reporting. It should be cake to outdo Gene Ross. I sincerely hope you have not burned that many bridges!

SpiderJ writes: Luke! What's up? Hope all is well with you these days. Hey, who is this Jack guy? In what movie did Bridgette do him? I'd love to see that one! Let me know if you've got some of her movies - I'd like to find a few. Anyway, I see old Julian didn't like our little "exposure" sa few weeks ago. Hey, the man knows what he did, but doesn't have the nuts to admit it. Whatever. Take it easy Luke, and keep up the great work. Hey, the nukeluke.com thing is proof enough that you are getting the job done. Later! SpiderJ

Skeeter: "As little as she is, she can take any guy there is, including that black guy Jack with the 16 inch dick. She can do Lexington Steele easy. I directed a scene of Lexington Steele and Earl Slate doing her in a DP [double penetration, one penis vaginally and one anally].

Porners Flock To Venetian

Porners are going to be staying at the Venetian Hotel in Las Vegas for the January 6-9 CES. The Venetian is located at 3355 Las Vegas Blvd South Las Vegas, NV 89109 Tel. No. (702)733-5000. I hear that AVN has already booked 500 rooms. AVN will host its big awards show at the Venetian Saturday night, January 8.

Sasha Gabor Interview

Luke talked Sunday, 12/5/99, with Sasha Gabor, a charming, talkative 54 year old European who fluently speaks six languages. He's confined to his house as punishment for an excessive number of drunk driving convictions.

Luke: "I'm being lazy and watching a football game. Colts vs. Dolphins."

Sasha: "I just had a 25-minute conversation with my mom in Norway where it is cold, dark, slippery. My mom is going to be 77 year old in January so I worry about her slipping... Because of the ice on the street. So, when can I ever see my bio on your site?"

Luke: "We'll do it now."

Sasha: "That would be a great honor. Thank you so much. So many thousands of people come to your website."

Luke: "Are you still doing scenes?"

Sasha: "Yes, I do the Bukkake series [for Jim Lane at JM Productions]. It's not necessarily a glorious thing to jack off onto the girl's face. I'm always number one. 'Hi guys. Look at me. This is what you do.' The young guys stand around and jack and jack and jack, and Sasha walks up and 'Gaboom,' and the cum shot is over.

"I also write tons of article. For instance, about having sex with Bridgett the Midget (in June, 1999), the girl who's three feet tall. It was a good story. I've got the pictures. And the Houston 500.

"Doing Bridgett was kinky and fun. She weighs about 65 pounds. At three feet tall, she reached exactly to my dick.

"I also did an article on the Spontaneous XXtacy gangbang. So that's how I make my living, concocting war stories..."

Luke: "How did you get into this industry?"

Sasha: "By looking like Burt Reynolds. I was working for Ron Smith's Celebrity Lookalikes from 1980. In 1983, I interviewed Screw magazine editor Al Goldstein, one of my first articles. My wife, who is a Hollywood foreign press journalist, met Al in New York. He had a T-shirt on saying 'Screw.' So she said 'Screw?' and he said, 'Right now?'

"She was six feet tall and drop dead gorgeous. When we got married in 1979 in Reno, people said, 'God, it's like watching Burt Reynolds marry Sophia Loren.'

"So, she was going back to Norway when she was supposed to interview Goldstein in West LA. So she sent me with a tape recorder and a bunch of questions, and said, 'Just record it and transcribe it and send it to me in Norway. And I will split whatever the company pays me for it.' We were divorced at this time but very good friends. We were living together. Our time together after the divorce was better than our times when we were drinking...

"Al Goldstein was with Marga Auhlbach. She did the movie 'Dancers' with Joey Silvera and Mai Lin. So I met Marga and thought, 'There might be another story. I'll have to get an interview.' And she said, 'God, you look so much like Burt Reynolds. It would be fun to do a movie with you, a takeoff on 'The Best Little Whorehouse in Texas.' So she said I'll have the script written and you can take a look at it. Would you like to come with me to the award ceremony in downtown Los Angeles in 1983.

"There I meet Mail Lin, Shauna Grant, Ron Jeremy... I thought, 'Wow, this is fabulous.' Seka posed for a picture grabbing my cock and it was published in Hustler. I looked just like Burt Reynolds. I drove a black Transam. I wore a tuxedo with a cowboy hat. So I meet Ed and Summer Brown. A Jewish couple. So she says, 'Are you an actor?' I say, 'Yes, an officer and a gentleman.' Then she says, 'We're doing a movie called 'The Fantasies of Women.' We could write a scene for you, so a woman could have a fantasy about Burt Reynolds.

"I said great, but I've heard that for years. We'll have a movie for you. But a month later, she asked me to come to her home on Palm Drive in Beverly Hills to her home. And I stripped out of my clothes and showed her my body. And right away she says, 'You're not circumsized.' I say 'No. My father is Catholic and my mom is Jewish and I was born June 6, 1945 in Hungary. Bombs were falling outside. I was delivered by a midwife. We had other things to do aside from circumsizing you. My father was against it and my mother didn't push the issue.'"

Fred writes: "Something doesn't wash. In explaining why he wasn't circumcised, Sasha Gabor says that he was born on June 6, 1945 in Hungary, and bombs were falling all over. Actually, the war in Europe was over in May, 1945. What were these bombs?"

Sasha: "So she says, 'Yeah, we're shooting up in San Francisco on August 27, 1983.' And the movie became, 'Every Woman Has A Fantasy.' Then from there, the phone rang and it went boom. We have a movie, can you do it tomorrow? I thought it was Screen Actors Guild. But it was Jim South. Is this a porn movie? Yes. And you want me to have sex in it? Yes. Any problems? No. So I was shot in the Veluzat Ranch in Palmdale. I play a drunk sheriff. Starred Tom Byron. Shot on 35mm. But it was never released.

"And then Teddy Snyder called me up and asked me to do two girls, Maria Tortuga and Rene Summers. I ended up doing a story on Maria. She had a Mexican father and a Swedish mother. She was exotic. Looked more Spanish than anything else."

Pat Riley describes Tortuga: "Not too pretty with black hair and small tits."

Sasha did numerous movies through 1985 when videotape took over and budgets plunged. Overall, Gabor has appeared in under 200.

Gabor starts talking Swedish.

Gabor: "We have a beautiful Swedish girl here. I keep telling her that she's 16. But she says she's 24."

Luke: "What is she doing there? Doesn't she know how dangerous you are?"

Gabor: "With all the posters in my room of pussies and naked girls... No, this girl is extremely Christian. No nooky, hahaha."

Sasha grew up his first eleven years in Hungary until the 1956 revolution against Communism.

"My parents didn't escape until very very late, when the Russians had totally squelched... The Russian tanks rolled in and then came the city police who rounded up everybody... My father was in the revolution as were many kids my age, toting guns... So in February, 1957, the Austrian border was totally closed. The minefields were back in action, so we left for Yugoslavia. We spent six weeks in a concentration camp, not knowing if Tito would kick us back to Hungary or deliver us to the Russians. Thank God that Tito was a good guy... And the first delegation that came from abroad was the Norwegian delegation... So we couldn't go to the United States or Canada as we intended, but ended up going in March of 1957 to Norway. It was full of snow and gorgeous and beautiful blonde girls.

"There weren't many dark haired people in Norway in 1957. So a kid with dark hair, women went apes--- over me. Not only girls, but women. The first girl I went to bed with was from Denmark. I was 14 and she was 15. The next girl was a divorcee who was 28.

"My first time was on the 23rd of June, 1960. I keep a diary. I'm very proud of my diaries. With pictures showing what I looked like and all my girlfriends looked like. And I describe my first kiss and my first time in bed with a girl. I have 15 photo albums and seven diaries.

Mussum writes: If you are a real porn fan, then you should keep your distance of the Pornstar Trading channel. The only thing you're going to learn is how "pornstars" can be s---ty, snub and snotty. I hope they all catch AIDS and die.

Porn Star Trading

<AGigi> [Gigi Appleton, owner of Avalon Enterprises, a porn distributor] You know it is relaxing to just cum and play without having to ,watch every word...... HEAR THAT luke?????

<MikeSouth> gigi luke will not repeat what you tell him not to

* wickedwrm wonders if he should start hunting for a usenet server.

<AGigi> Mike do not count on that and you will not get hurt!!!!! Luke will print what he wants for himself. He could give a s--- about any of us!

<AGigi> Mike if it came to the big stoey.... he would bury us all, wouldn't ya, Luke?

<MikeSouth> well gigi I dont te,pt him with big stories in here besides I save those for me :)

<AGigi> and mike you don't hurt ppl with it eeven if it is juicy

<MikeSouth> gigi...like I said depends on who it is...I have no compunction whatsoever about exposing a fraud

<AGigi> Mike is no prize but he has honor and integrity. He is also a hard ass

<MikeSouth> gigi dint see me light into njg did she :)

<FascistMOD> I just hate thinking my offhand remark is going to end up hgospel on l-keford.com :-)

<Jim_Gunn> delaney, we even shot at a real "historical" place last week- the same house in Miami that the original "Deep Throat" was shot in in 1974.

* DirtyBob knows that Mike South dreams of winning an AVN Award where he actually has to go on stage and accept it

<MikeSouth> i dlike to thank Jim Gunn for making Girl/girl so I have no real competition on the east coast

<Jim_Gunn> I've made many more and better b/g movies than you on both coasts

<MikeSouth> you have seriously helped me a ton dude

<Jim_Gunn> Both quantity and quality wise

<MikeSouth> not more and certainly NOT better

<AGigi> pissing conteast east vs. south her we go BATTER UP!!!!!!!!

<Meni> and then the one he delivers the hottest babe to my room wins

<Jim_Gunn> Yes more and beter and not to mention i don't make amateur movies

<MikeSouth> me N Jim fight good

<MikeSouth> we both got edu-gotdamn-cations

* DirtyBob thinks we should put South and Gunn in a heavy-duty Lap Dance Club and see who survives the longest.

<MikeSouth> If I ever do get an award that requires a speech I have to thank Dirty Bob first and foremost

<DirtyBob> speaking of parties, did anyone catch the GREAT write-up in the Dec AVN on the ECVS parties?

<`^-_-^`> Is it one of those ordeals where after a brief speech but some dude you never heard of... the webmasters break up into small groups for workshops and have a break-out session complete with brainstorming and a skit to present toward the end of the day?

<Jim_Gunn> I only saw that cover not the actal movie but I think i shot much better looking girls than they did on my last trip to Brazil

<Jim_Gunn> Luke you know I think of you soemtimes...

<Jim_Gunn> Like today when someting strange happened to me tahat could be like 200 rows of text on your site, but on the other hand it's just so trivial why even bother...

<l-keford1> i aint f---ing raped no bitches!

<MadisonFan> hehe yeah luke, get everready wanting to kick your ass too

<WarmProp> that's a classic line in porn history.

<AgentXIII> i met luke in vegas last year, he was interviewing lauren montgomery, and mistook me for mr. marcus

<l-keford1> they all look alike

<MadisonFan> oh my

<AgentXIII> see now it's that kind of talk, that gets you one to the solar plexis

<l-keford1> oy ve!

<AgentXIII> naw you've never spoken to me directly

<AgentXIII> i saw you at the stage on jill kelly's shoot.

<MadisonFan> l-keford1, did you grab your purse tighter when you saw this guy?

<l-keford1> Do you look like Mr Marcus?

<AgentXIII> don't think so, but the picture you took of me is from behind.

<l-keford1> oooh, that's just how i like my boys!

<AgentXIII> big, black, bald, Mistake.

<l-keford1> PLease tell me you are not going to beat my jew ass

<AgentXIII> naw, i like heimies.

<l-keford1> Do you think that porn perpetuates negative stereotypes about people

<AgentXIII> unfortunaley yes.

<AgentXIII> chocolate this, hoe that.

<WarmProp> but it's black producers who mostly make the hoe this bitch that crap?

<zoexxx> Hopefully luke will have enough taste not to put up s--- someone says about me, hint, hint

<njg> Luke, you just got home from your date with that guy?

<njg> Luke, that guy was gay, I hope you know sweetheart

<njg> did anything happen?

<VideoEd> Zoe was only doing her job, it has nothing to do with her having a "spat", she was only looking out for the good of the channel

<jimmyD> zoe the king solomon of PsT

<jimmyD> shez practically naked on my couch

<jimmyD> tomorrow's her big day....under the knife

<jimmyD> did you call me earlier luke?

<l-keford1> yes, looking for kendra

<njg> Luke had a date tonight with a gay guy!

<jimmyD> shez right here

<l-keford1> it is ok jimmy, just for a friend

<jimmyD> a phone call from KJ?

<jimmyD> wahts that...your make a wish foundation?

<njg> Luke, so me and brandy know that that guy was gay

<njg> and, he was in your house ALONE

<jimmyD> luke has a homo lover?

<jimmyD> israeli drug dealer found dead in brentwood

<MastCapping> Now you gotta get your reefer elsewhere, right Jimmy?

<njg> jimmy d: this guy took luke to an expensive restaurant and PAID for it!

<jimmyD> that's gay

<jimmyD> that's totally gay

<njg> and he said he wasn't into gossip, but asked me about the dish!

<VideoEd> not that jimmy would know about gay stuff or anything

<jimmyD> i only know what i've read

<VideoEd> of course jimmy

<njg> he got me and BA on the phone and she told me that she thought he was gay too!

<njg> so you got two str8 chicks saying he's gay

<njg> and they watched a beastiality porn video too together

<njg> Luke: this guy have a crush on you??

<jimmyD> kendra sez that's 'absolutely gay'

<njg> jimmy I swear, you should have heard this guys voice!!!!

<njg> sooo gay

<njg> I think Luke didn't know

<jimmyD> luke would make a good twinkie

<njg> he is clueless

<njg> jimmy d: luke is waay over the hill for a twinkie, you can't get much at his age

<SiliconVyDude> how old are you luke?

<l-keford1> 33

<jimmyD> luke...didnt realize you've attracted the attention of The Bortherhood

<njg> Luke couldn't even be a gay pornstar at this poinnnt

<CausingTrouble> the age jesus died

<njg> they prolly think he's cute, but he's not all that I KNOW!!!

<njg> he takes good pix

<jimmyD> luke refers to his date as a 'date.' that by itself is f---ing gay.

<jimmyD> i figure luke's a bottom...probly most of you would agree if ya think about it

<jimmyD> lukey...when did you become a friend to the arryan race?

<njg> I really think that s--- he's printing is disgusting!

<jimmyD> if luke were a real jew, he wouldnt give them any column space

<jimmyD> maybe it's satire

<jimmyD> lukey...rob's lawyer wants to depose you

<njg> but you know I'm glad Luke has gay friends

<jimmyD> homophobia has always been known to be a sign of latent homosexuality

<njg> and, in the past he was quite a horrible homophobe

*** VideoEd changes topic to '*<njg> but you know I'm glad Luke has gay friends'

<Mastrick> Of course no one here is homophobic

<jimmyD> hey luke...you willing to be deposed by rob's lawyer?

<Mastrick> We freely support alternative lifestyles and gay love

<l-keford1> yes jimmmyd, but i do not think that would be in rob's interest

<jimmyD> yes it would

<l-keford1> ok, i will tell the truth

<njg> Luke you will tell the truth about what happened on your date baby??

<njg> should I be jealous?

<l-keford1> no, nothing happened

<njg> now that I've been so (sniff) horribly DUMPED by JD I need you Lukey!

<jimmyD> they'll just depose me after you luke and i'll contradict everything you said that might not be in rob's interest

<l-keford1> i just wish u guys would stop beating up kendra jade and sending her to the hospital!

<jimmyD> we cant help ourselves...shez just so dammed....beatable

<jimmyD> luke counts on my good humor

<jimmyD> i DID hear that rumor, luke. i also hear that i supposedly either watched it happen without interfering and/or participated

<l-keford1> hmm, did you? :)

<jimmyD> did i what?

<l-keford1> watch

<l-keford1> or partici

<jimmyD> watch something that did not happen? participate in a fictional event?

<l-keford1> yes

<jimmyD> yeah..i watched something that did not happen and participated in a fictional event....every night...in my dreams

<jimmyD> and of course, as she peacefully and safely sleeps a few feet from me right now, she fears for her life if she '

<jimmyD> she 'tells all'

<minime> i gotta cover Luke’s pic with pst window

<MadisonFan> i could do without luke looking at me too

<Prop> just load http://www.l-keford.com/index_right.html

<minime> yea, exactly

<minime> he looks so....angst ridden

* dtano is away - autoaway

<MadisonFan> they shouldve put that search engine over lukes face hehe

<MadisonFan> guilt ridden

<Prop> FEVI isn't even found on nasdaq

<MadisonFan> that aryan stuff is funny as hell

<MadisonFan> theyre asking a jew for help haha

<MadisonFan> luke invite the aryans over to meet you and hymie

<minime> luke will you go to vista, to report on the meet?

<l-keford1> maybe

<MadisonFan> wear your yellow star

<l-keford1> Many of Luke's readers do not know that thanks to

<l-keford1> stock options in FANtasiconline.com, Luke is now a

<l-keford1> millionaire. Stock symbol is FEVI, for Fantastic!

<l-keford1> Entertainment Ventures Inc.

<Prop> when did they file because 84 filings on december no fantastic

<Prop> so you're not exactly a millionare :) and how big percentage of FANtastic do you have again?

<Prop> one product a mag, maybe a video line cooming up (who's the distro?)

<Prop> what form do they file 424b2?

<Prop> you know when luke prints s--- after your IPO people are gonna come after the whole companies ass like no tommorow :)

<CraigV> what Luke? how can Luke affect a stock offering?

<CraigV> no Prop - it can't happen - company is a BVI company - all offshore - we can't be sued

<CraigV> i don't have it - I don't know the first thing about IPO's or IUD's - I'm just the creative guy - my financing guys handle all the rest

<CraigV> I'm serious man - I sit in these meetings and its all greek to me -

<CraigV> Prop: if you could see the lawyers, accountants, suits - that are wasting my f---ing time asking me every stupid question about this company

<CraigV> Thanks Hook - but I could care less really

<CraigV> I just want to do my job - that''s the part I like

<Prop> ok cool don't mean to bother you or anything just simple questions

<CraigV> the work is the cake the rest is gravy

<CraigV> Hey Luke is gonna do a radio show here in toronto in about 20 minutes

<CraigV> Luke F-rd is on the line - they called him a multimillionaire!!! lol

<CraigV> 640talk radio Toronto

<BobBlec> Craig: can we get a girl to clean his clock?

<CraigV> multimillionaire Luke F-rd!!!

<CraigV> luke is hitting on the show's host!!

<l-keford1> :)

<CraigV> he's gonna take calls from the audience of women looking for a rich guy!!!

<CraigV> you're a JERK!!! lol

<CraigV> oh oh a pissed off one

<Prop> this on real audio?

<BobBlec> can we get some terrorists to kidnap this multimillionaire?

<shannin> what are you listening to craiG?

<CraigV> yeah real radio 0- all over Toronto

<CraigV> 640am Talk Radio in Toronto

<CraigV> Luke!!!

<CraigV> "it is not a Joke - it is true"

<faldo> she emails telling me she f---ed one my friends last nite...damn,,,I created a monster....evening folks

<CraigV> Luke is on the radio but not the site

<Prop> hey now they're talking about ford

<CraigV> a guy asked to marry him lol

<Prop> hey there's a delay

<BobBlec> faldo: who wrote this?

<CraigV> just a delayed feed

<NaurU> server him lol

<CraigV> www.talk640.com click on the realaudio stream

<Prop> how long ago was this? there a ten min delay?

<NaurU> http://www.talk640.com/content/talk640.ram

<CraigV> Luke is millionaire!! lol - a multimillionaire!!

<MadisonFan> were all flocking there like its bon f---ing jovi

<shannin> yea nauru he's an aussie

<NaurU> ahh

<MadisonFan> dick dundee

<Prop> sounds kinda fay :)

<CraigV> we're all Luke F-rd fans!!! lol

<l-keford1> :)

<BobBlec> hahahaha; "what I don't understand is how a nice Jewish boy gets a name like Luke F-rd"

*** BobBlec changes topic to '<Caller> what I don't understand is how a nice Jewish boy gets a name like Luke F-rd'

<MadisonFan> luke youre such a f---ing fag

<CraigV> I'd marry you just for your voice... lol

<CraigV> hehehehe

<MadisonFan> do they know who luke is?

<Prop> "MULTImillionaire"

<Prop> LOL

<NaurU> she would run?

<NaurU> lol

<BobBlec> Craig: the "marry you for your voice" just came through

<shannin> lol, plugging his website

<NaurU> oh s--- lol

<BobBlec> Mad: hahahahahahaha

<CraigV> it should be on the website

<NaurU> mom lol

<MadisonFan> haha

<BobBlec> hahahahahaha

<BobBlec> marry her mom?

<BobBlec> save the dog

<CraigV> heheheheh - what a jerk - l-keford.com!!

<Prop> jem http://www.talk640.com/content/talk640.ram now!

<shannin> if Luke F-rd was drowning, would you save him or his dog?

<l-keford1> :)

<NaurU> thats it?

<MadisonFan> luke- you rule you knuckleheaded nitwit

<CraigV> lol

<BobBlec> hahahahaah

<CraigV> guess she's reading this now Luke... The host on Talk640 this afternoon is Marsha Leiderman, "a jewish girlie," according to a source. "She is cool on air - a bitch off air."

<BobBlec> hehehehehehehe

<ncdd> bybye

<CraigV> what about the producer Luke - he coming on?

<BobBlec> ok, is that it for luke?

<NaurU> can we turn it off now?

<CraigV> yeah - he is done!

<CraigV> they should still be discussing the show though

<l-keford1> i'm done

<CraigV> you were good!!!! lol

<CraigV> got it on tape

<Prop> you didn't get to talk a lot

<VIdeoBlockBuster> luke: how many times are you gonna print comments from mussum cutting down this channel?

<l-keford1> dunno

<CraigV> Ban him!!!!!

<VIdeoBlockBuster> dont you think its getting old

<l-keford1> no

<VIdeoBlockBuster> craig: ban luke or ban mussum

<BobBlec> why is it even relevant?

<CraigV> Ban Him!!!

<CraigV> Luke!!! Burn him at the Stake!!

<MadisonFan> mussum hates the channel but we ban him 4 times a day trying to sneak in here

Session Start: Fri Dec 10 14:35:20 1999

*** Now talking in #!!!!!!pornstar-trading

*** Topic is '<Caller> what I don't understand is how a nice Jewish boy gets a name like Luke F-rd'

<BobBlec> faldo: we try to be open, and not ban anyone unless absolutely necessary

<CraigV> No one should be banned for expressing an opinion

<faldo> I understand taht Bob, and that is in the spirit of the net, but are they not taking advantage of that?

<MadisonFan> no one was banned for expressing an opinion

<CraigV> Luke just expresses everyone elses!!

<l-keford1> sometimes i just feel like a cheap media whore

<faldo> It is not his opinion that is bannable, it is his promulgating that opinion. We dont have the same opportunities, or the time, or the inclination to do so.

<faldo> If you feel that Luke adds something positive in exchange for his efforts to dog this room, and convey a negative impression, then it is justified.

<CraigV> call 1-800-LF-WHORE

<CraigV> Luke wether you condone it or not has brought a lot of attention to this room

<faldo> I will grant you that Craig, and if that is worth it, then he should stay. Just a cost/benefit analysis.

<VideoEd> yeah luke has brought us some great people like mussum

<CraigV> "maybe you want Luke F-rd under your tree for Christmas"

<VideoEd> ncdd

<MadisonFan> mussum, mnctech, joner

<faldo> What is the purpose of this room? Does Luke fit into that purpose, or take away from it?

<CraigV> They are still trying to set Luke up - talking about all the babes that will be chasing him

<CraigV> talking about the quote on his site!!!

<CraigV> interview did end but they are still discussing the show

<CraigV> and his website

<MadisonFan> if anything luke keeps indsutry people away

<CraigV> he is quite the pornographer

<Prop> yeah caught the bitch comment

<NaurU> so l-keford1 what happens if the chick that wins is really nasty?

<CraigV> they are still talking about him

<CraigV> most facinating characters in the porn world!!!

<shannin> LOL she's naming titles

<faldo> is that a motivation to ban him? ISnt that enough? HE actually takes away from the purpose and intent of this room.

<MadisonFan> exactly Ed, but also how many new ones are staying away too because of that fear

<CraigV> They do not fear Luke - they use Luke - he is cheaper than an ad in AVN

<MadisonFan> lukes adds nothing, just takes

<faldo> What is the benefit to allwoing him to stay?

<VideoEd> craig: only the angry pornstars use luke

<Darth_Whack> He brings us traffic, Faldo

<VideoEd> they use luke when they want to get back at someone

<Prop> these guys really buy this multimillioare thing?

<VideoEd> darth, yeah he brought us mnctech, joner and mussum, all banned

<faldo> like Mussum, DW,,,has he brought us anyone that has been a welcome addition? ( I really dont know the answer to that answer)

<shannin> Luke should have plugged #!!!!!!pornstar-trading

<Prop> "he's trying too hard to be cool"

<shannin> :)

<faldo> He is in a great position to be useful and nice to us, but he doesnt.

<CraigV> why should he Faldo? Does he owe anything to you?

<CraigV> They think he's pompous

<shannin> yea

<Darth_Whack> Faldo, Im not disagreeing with you on the Mussum thing. But when I have asked why in the past Luke has not been banned, I have been told because he brings us traffic

<faldo> No, but listen, is he here as a right, or as a privilege. The system is set up as a privilege.

<CraigV> I can't believe thay are still talking about him!!!

<NaurU> Pompus Ass! lol

<Prop> "pompous ass"

<shannin> lol this lady is going off

<NaurU> substandard?

<VideoEd> we keep talking about mussum because luke keeps printing comments made my mussum

<shannin> lol he's not extremely handsome

<Prop> "he's possibly a bit hardsome"

<Darth_Whack> Faldo, agreed again, no matter how much somw people try to make it sound like this channel is a "right" when it's not

<Darth_Whack> rules are rules are rules, but they are made to be broken

<l-keford1> this is hilarious

<faldo> Rules are not made to be broken

<faldo> Rules, like laws, are meant to give people expectations concerning behavior.

<faldo> Luke's actions have gone beyond acceptable behavior.

<NaurU> what did luke do again?

<l-keford1> Faldo, what would you like from me?

<l-keford1> You know i am very lazy.

<shannin> i'd marry luke as long as there was some money guarantee

<CraigV> talked to my buddy at the station Luke - she will go on until the top of the hour about you

<VideoEd> faldo has been coming here for years and just feels that PST would be a better place without luke

<BobBlec> hehehehe

<NaurU> oh ok

<BobBlec> hahahahaha; mental problem

<CraigV> did ya get the email Luke? answer her back

<faldo> I am mostly a lurker, but I have been around here a lot longer than most of you people.

<MadisonFan> this is a chat channel, luke doesnt even do that

<CraigV> I don't think so Ed - this is a fans forum is it not?

<BobBlec> "if he's so religious, why is he into this porn stuff?"

<faldo> I just feel that he uses a place that I like for his own means.

<MadisonFan> if luke talked he might actually add something worthwhile, all he does now is leech

<faldo> Without giving anything back.

<CraigV> Luke has a lot of fans and is an industry notable

<VideoEd> craig: but is pst benefiting from luke being here?

<CraigV> Luke is a media Whore!!!

<shannin> so when is luke going to get married? before CES?

<shannin> luke and monica LOL!

<VideoEd> we gained some people and lost some people

<BobBlec> Luke + Monica Lewinsky

<faldo> This is a fun place to hang out, that happens to have a niche.

<CraigV> is that what this is about - I benefit from being here cause I've met some good people - I don't love 'em all but i don't have to

<CraigV> "This guy has got it on the ball!!"

<VideoEd> let me ask luke something: Luke if we told you that you were not allowed to post logs of this channel to your webpage would you still come here?

<l-keford1> not as often

<faldo> But do you dog the channel in public?

<MadisonFan> Craig- i agree that luke is an industry notable and if he talked he called add to discussions, now all he says is "did you ever f--- a dog?" and "why, cuz im a jew?"

<CraigV> poor luke will never find a woman who loves him

<VideoEd> luke: so your admitting that the main reason you come here is to obtain logs?

<BobBlec> I thought Luke wanted a man, anyway

<l-keford1> Bob, the primary reason i come here is for work purposes, ie my site

<Darth_Whack> to obtain logs then

<VideoEd> bob: in other words to obtain logs

<faldo> Should you not then give a portion of your proceeds to the creators of that content?

<faldo> There might be a civil action there. Who owns this room?

<BobBlec> Luke: ok, fair enough; what do you get here, then?

<BobBlec> Ed: that goes without saying

<MadisonFan> in other words, leech

<VideoEd> i dont know if anybody can own a room faldo, but i created it

<faldo> You might have a legitimate right of ownership, would be interesting.

<faldo> I see a cease in desist order available.

<CraigV> faldo: I gave an ad to PST in the mag

<faldo> Craig, you are probably right to do so Craig.

<BobBlec> "Luke: as far as quoting stuff from the channel, we consider it to be public, but intended mainly for the use of the people who come here; we want people to feel free to come to PsT, but at the same time, we don't want them to feel like their every word is going to be posted for the entire world to see. That's not an 'official' PsT policy... yet"

<CraigV> i think this room rocks and I think the more pople that know about it the better!!

<l-keford1> anyone who does not want to be quoted, won't be

<faldo> Luke, from a legal standpoint, I would advise you to get permission to post logs.

<VideoEd> faldo: i could do that by banning luke, but luke has really broke no rules

<VideoEd> the only problem with luke being here is that he scares alot of industry people

<VideoEd> they are afraid to relax and actually chat with luke here

<Darth_Whack-> and brings in some other less desierables

<faldo> Which is a large enough reason to force him to stop posting logs.

<faldo> I would love to see some more stars in here.

<faldo> Seems we dont get as many coming in as we used to.

<MadisonFan-> i think thats reason enough to say bye to luke

<BobBlec> Luke: if you think about it, there's a fundamental difference between you and a tabloid, or Matt Drudge, etc., that being that there's not really a big scandal potential in exposing the "sleazy side" of a business that everyone ALREADY ASSUMES to be inherently sleazy

<MadisonFan-> certain industry people already said they dontlike to come here because of luke

<faldo> The law concerning the internet is still being created, but make no mistake, the law does and will apply to the net.

<CraigV> no faldo - much like taking nude celebrity pics in public this is not copywritable

<MadisonFan-> "public" in the sense that anyone can come in, "private" in the sense that we can throw anyone out

<VideoEd> zoe: the fine art of loving or hating Luke F-rd

<zoexxx> I just ggot accepted into a univerrsity

<BioKeeper> Not like you haven't warned him he's being a jack-off

<VideoEd> it would be a very very close vote if we all voted to keep luke or not

<faldo> I think Luke needs to consider whether or not he really has a right to post the logs.