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Thursday, November 25, 1999

Gossip

Sadie Sexton had a run-in with Digital Playground and has left the company.

I hear that Peter North and Jewel DeNyle are breaking up.

John Douglas from TalkingBlue.com has not been working on his TV show or website of late.

John says: "Been spending my time seeing this one girl, who has kept me distracted from my vile, pornographic ways. She is actually quite cool with it all, but I feel a little guilty about it all around her. Which is kinda odd, because I usually don't suffer from guilt much. So I guess you can say that a woman is putting me through my Luke F-rd trials these days."

Walter Gernert Update

One half of the Dark Brothers (with Greg Dark), Walter "Dark" Gernert now runs one of the biggest Sex Shop chains in Brasil, and porn distributor VCB (Brazil's version of VCA).

"He's living in Brazil cause he will be arrested if he sets foot in USA," says a Brazilian porno source. "He just lives in a nice place by the sea, oblivious to all the porn market. VCB is crumbling and he doesn't give a s---.

"VCB is owned by Walter, and he distributes some VCA titles. But problem is, 90% of the VCA material released here is s---. So he also distributes some German and Dutch porn, like Seventeen and Extrem. The ones with underaged girls. The age of consent is 18... But nobody actually gives a s--- about the Seventeen movies being released here."

Luke met Walter at the 1999 CES.

XXX: "I saw some of the Harry S. Morgan movies with Brazilian girls, but they always get the ugliest ones to film.

"The [local] PRODUCTION is relatively large, but the movies sucks cause every moron with a camera fancies himself as the next John Stagliano.

" But there are some ugly broads too. And they're all in Rob Black's movies. Rob Black is a moron. I did a really bad review of his movie."

David Sturman has a meeting with Juliet from avn on Tuesday about rolling out the new sin city website and about David's new magazine deal, Future Sex.

Lynne L-patin Writes David Sturman

Lynne L-patin writes David Sturman about her Dave Hardman movie: By now you should have received the videotape I made which incorporates Luke's interview which he thinks everyone will enjoy, because he comes across so well on camera.

He really wants to see it, too, so please send it to him as soon as you can have a look at it. I know no one in the porn industry has enough time to watch a video tape, but Luke eagerly makes exceptions for himself.

I learned something over at Sin City that I thought was very interesting. When a company has all its releases planned a year in advance, there's no need for them to look at a new person's work. Even if that work were to be the "Deep Throat" of the Millenium, the company actually makes more money by not looking at new things. Or is it just that there's less work?

On one hand, people find it easy to say no to me; on the other, they seem to think I'm dangerous. So send Lukey his tape as soon as you've had your laugh, because I haven't decided between the Martini and the Molotov.

P.S.: There are dozens of girlie magazines for the consumer; there is only one magazine for the trade, and it can't sell a single extra copy of the video beyond the cost of the ad. In fact, it can hardly sell itself. It was always very hard making magazines for people who never read anything (or even looked at the pictures...) I do so wish I could have Lukey on paper every two weeks... I know I should be an Internet elitist but I know where there are presses that could use a good project.

David Sturman replies: "Lynn, Not being privy to the internal workings of your mind, I can not comment on this cryptic message. But, I did look at the movie and unfortunately, it does not fit into Sin City's video marketing strategy at the moment. If you like, forward Luke's address and I will forward the movie to him directly. Thanks for considering Sin City for your distribution. David"

AVN Award Nominations Out

Check and email Luke your comments.

A friend from Astralocean.com writes: I am so angry I can't even breathe. We got nominated for nothing. Yes, it has to be my association with you that made AVN ignore us. No one there will even talk to me anymore (although Shooting Sex did get one!). I think you need to hold the Lukey Awards. Seriously! Make them some weird ones. And give me one of them.

However, after a year and some-odd of being your "friend", I have found you to be fair and decent to me. I have seriously disagreed with many things you have printed (i.e. XXX is SO not Darren Star! the proof is out there silly) but you have always treated me well and for that I thank you.

Email Luke your suggestions for Lukey Awards.

J.D. Considine has these category suggestions:

Best Blowjob: For the most undeservedly glowing movie review published in AVN or HEVG.

Best Rimjob: For the most undeservedly flattering gossip item published in AVN or HEVG.

Biggest f---: For the most reprehensible behavior by a video company executive.

Drama Queen of the Year, Male and Female. To reward those AV players whose performance online is more interesting and compelling than their work onscreen.

Hard Boy of the Year: For the best and most blustery threats, whether against Luke or another porn industry denizen.

Golden Bootlick: For the most shameless flattery of an employer.

Better Living Through Science Award: For the most extreme cosmetic surgery in an actress.

Robinson writes:

1. Shortest Interval of "Retirement" Between Films

2. Most Scheduled Shoots Missed for No Reason

3. Best Imitation of a Corpse During a Sex Scene

Fred Buccolini writes Luke: "Your site has been excellent the past month and a half. I don't think there has been one weak day. I think you are at your funniest when you are just yourself, in those chats with Kendra and crew. I won a DVD player on KLOS around Halloween. Lucky caller number 21. I had to pick it up at the station. They threw in five DVDs."

Bridgett Kerkove Controversy

From : Gene Ross has in his position two sets of model releases signed by Bridgett Kerkove- one dated December 8, 1998; the other signed 6-23-99. Both signatures match. However the model release produced by LGI bears a signature that's totally different.

Skeeter Kerkove contends all along that Bridgett never signed the release being produced by LGI, that she had asked to sign one, but was never given one because the LGI shoot directed by Jim Gunn was "disorganized". Skeeter said he and Bridgett were already on their way home when it dawned on them they never signed the release.

Rob Knob supplied the 6-23-99 release and had this to say, "I saw that s--- on Luke F-rd's site. I compared them to all the signatures I have on file for her which are all identical. I'm not a handwriting expert, but it looks like somebody forged some signatures." Copies of Bridgett Kerkove's driver's license and social security card also match up to the December and June model releases but not to the LGI release.

Bo Smith aka John Kenney ( bo@wwwlgi.com) writes Luke: "Thanks for putting up the copys of the model release and the cancelled check.If the kerkove's deny that one of them did not sign the model release then let call the police next week when I'm there and start a case as to who forged the check and model release I will be happy to take our case to the crinimal court system if we must defend our selves lets do it where it counts.I know that no one connected to me or my company forged any thing on that check or model release and that the only signature's on that check belong to one of the kerkove's."

  1. Image:1124992 Back of Kerkove's check from LGI

  2. Image:1124993 Front of check

  3. Image:1124994 Closeup of check signature

  4. Image:1124995 Kerkove's drivers license signature

  5. Image:1124996 Kerkove's AIM HIV test

  6. Image:1124997 Kerkove's model release

  7. Image:1124998 Kerkove's Social Security card

Sharon Mitchell's Trip To Budapest

>From Mystique Magazine www.myspod.com

Sharon Mitchell had a busy November. The adult film legend and current guiding light behind the Adult Industry Medical HealthCare Foundation (AIM) toured Budapest, Hungary to teach HIV and sexually-transmitted disease education sessions at seminars in the Hungarian capital.

Mitchell says she made the trip at the behest of her friend and fellow adult performer Anita Rinaldi. "I have taken it as my personal calling to educate, inform, and inspire my fellow talent members," says Mitchell. "The trip to Budapest working with Anita Rinaldi and our European friends proves that solutions lie in the similarities, not the differences."

She taught at the Hotel Ibis for two days and provided various protective measures to her listeners. She also sought out a laboratory that performs PCR/DNA testing. "They do the same as AIM does in 24-hour turnaround for about $(US)70," she says. "On the lab premises, they also have a gynecologist and she and I worked out effective STD, Pap smear and bacteria serology screenings, also very cost effective. So now we have similar programs in both continents where the porn family co-exists."

Mitchell has been a passionate advocate of health issues in the adult entertainment industry for a very long time, though it became even more acute this fall when veteran porn star Tony Montana tested HIV positive, triggering a massive quarantine and testing which affected some of the industry's other leading lights, until they were all cleared within a three-week period following Montana's diagnosis.

Mitchell plans another educational trip, to Grenele University in Iowa Dec. 1, before returning home to prepare for the forthcoming Consumer Electronics Show (CES) in Las Vegas Jan. 6-9. The first date will also feature AIM's "Another 40th Birthday," with Mitchell, Nina Hartley, Ron Jeremy and friends at the Spearmint Rhino on the Las Vegas Strip.

Mike Ross

Moffit Timlake writes: "Luke, I knew Mike Ross had his s--- together- out there getting bills passed, helping defeat bills that shouldn't pass, organizing effectively, and not spending $56,000 on a f---ing secretary! Just which porner is Carol Berlitz related to? Say boo to censorship? That has to be the scariest thing I've ever heard. No wonder the real powers that be at FSC left en masse."

I interviewed adult industry lobbyist Mike Ross Tuesday afternoon.

Mike: "I finally understand why you were joking about Mara Epstein sucking my dick. It's because she's a lesbian, right? Somebody tells me she lives with Gloria Leonard. God forbid I want to start any rumors. And no I did not give Jeffrey Douglas a blowjob to get nominated for the Free Speech Coalition board.

"I'm pleased to be nominated for the board. I'm not really running for it but if everybody wants me to do it, I'm willing to set aside the time and effort... I do think that the concept of Free Speech and the Free Speech Coalition is important.

"I would like to see the FSC strengthen its focus...to let everybody know who we are, why we are here and what we are going to do. Sometimes that gets lost.

"I've got one thing over Gloria Leonard and the rest of them, I'm out there doing something. I've been active in Tampa with the fight to ban lap dancing... I met with all the people on the City Council. I gave a presentation. We're negotiating amendments. We may lose, but we're in the game. That's the key. How do we get Free Speech in the game."

Ross says the FSC needs to review its budget. Perhaps $56,000 a year for its secretary (Carol Berlitz) is excessive.

Mike: "We need to get control over staff and not have staff control us.

"We need to make sure our rules are adhered to, and that the membership understands how the board operates. If people don't know how we're structured, how are they going to get involved? If we don't have a strong focus, nobody will want to donate to us.

"We need a better fundraising system. We can't just rely on events like 'Say Boo to Censorship' and 'Night of the Stars.' We need to bring vendors into the process. Like the people who sell a million gallons of beer a month in our clubs... That they send letters to the City Council... We write the letter and hand it to them and all they do is put it on their stationary... There are companies that make a ton of money off the printing of boxcovers [Michael Warner's Great Western Visuals, for instance]. That company should be proud to send a letter to the City Council...

"The FSC has not introduced any bills in years. I've introduced several bills. They may not go anywhere but they help us build friends. Like the smoking bill [to permit smoking in clubs]. Now the regular bars consider us heroes because we're marching down the street trying to make this thing happen. It helps put us together with people with similar interests. Topless bars sell alcohol like regular bars... We have the same problems, same regulators. There are thousands of them in the state. By having 200 of us [adult cabarets] associated with them only makes them stronger. Especially since we control so much money.

"We have an industry that is heavily tape oriented. Why couldn't we do a 30-60 second tape urging people to vote? We need to use our best assets. So if that means we need to take Nina Hartley and put her in the middle of the Rose Bowl in Pasadena with 50,000 people, we need to promote that.

"We've [National Cabaret Association] come up with a new fundraising system. The third week of every month we're going to do a fundraiser in another city. There will be an owner's meeting in the afternoon, an entertainter's meeting in the evening... Then on Thursday we'll have a 'Talk Politics With The Stars' program. XXX will oversee it. The public will come in, the press, mayors from different communities. An open house. Everybody gets in free. Friday and Saturday night we will do a pageant and a voter registration drive. The first one is in Lexington, KY, the next one in Cincinnatti and the third one in Los Angeles.

"In the first two weeks of March, we will have 15 different seminars and events going on around the country. The Presidentail campaign will really heat up in March. March 7 is our (CA) primary, which happens to be my birthday.

"I'm getting hundreds of thousands of hits to my websites... The Free Speech Coalition is doing nothing with its site. We're doing vibrator testing again. And I've signed a deal with a company which will sell the vibrators we rate, and we will get a buck for each one that we sell. If we had 250 businesses doing something like this, we'd have more than enough money to participate professionally.

"We could go from legislature to legislature rather than sitting in one town like Miss Sunlove does.

"I would much rather see the Free Speech Coalition be a broad coalition of leaders for First Amendment rights rather than as the group that represents the XXX industry. For instance, Mike Ross could be their representative from the NCA [National Cabaret Association]. There's a guy who has the Tarheel Entertainment Association in North Carolina. He should be on the board of directors. There's a guy from the Texas Entertainment Association. And a guy from the, say, Adult Video Association.

"I want to make sure that we're organized, that we work together...

"There's going to be a big Supreme Court ruling on clubs in the next six months. No matter what happens, there's going to be a backlash of laws. If the Court sides with the clubs, then the cities have to change everything to be more lenient. If the Court says the cities can be more stringent, the cities will be more stringent. Either way, the decision is going to open up more doors for more legislative control. We're not organized for it. Is the FSC Y2K compliant? Are they ready for year 2000?

"I've raised about $70,000 this fiscal year..."

Luke: "Mike, do you want to be a FSC board member, FSC president, FSC lobbyist or FSC executive director?"

Mike: "If I'm elected, one, I represent the live entertainment industry. Two, we should work together. Three, if the people of the board want me for a certain position, I'm willing to do that...

"Here's the big difference between everybody else and me. They all have businesses to run. Lobbying for adult is my full time business. Al Gelbard, attorney, has a regular job. Gloria Leonard heads sales for Private USA."

Luke: "How long do you think Kat Sunlove, at $60,000 a year, will last as FSC's Sacramento lobbyist?"

Mike: "If I'm on the board of directors, I will give her every opportunity to prove the statements she makes.

"When Kat Sunlove comes before the board and says how much she needs to be paid and reimbursed for expenses... I am there [in Sacramento] and I do it for free.

"Remember in April when you were up at the Capitol and she was having a press conference while the bill was going on? You're either there for the bill or for the show. If she's for getting something done, then I am all for giving her a raise...

"I say to Kat: I think she's too much a First Amendment purist. My approach is more oriented to business. And if that means painting a pink building tan so it blends into the community, I'd tell my guys to do it. It's not an issue of free speech... I've been telling her for years that there are things that the Republicans are good for... She's like no, the Republicans are our enemies.

"Our enemies are the politicians in general. The Democrats, because they are the majority, can stop these things, if they were our friends. Republicans help us stop things [anti-sex entertainment bills] because they understand we are a business. They may not like us, but they like this: If they eliminated us, there would be people filling the market, by shooting up chicks, chaining them in the bathroom, gangraping them... All the things you heard about 20 years ago that don't happen anymore because these companies are legitimate. They are professional. We've taken all the crime out of it. Because they are recognized legal professionals.

"I noticed in her newsletter that she's broadening out to gun control... Some of her issues are good issues and First Amendment issues but they are not adult entertainment issues. I've always thought the industry has hidden behind the FSC. The National Cabaret Association wants everybody to know who they are. Maybe we need the Adult Video Association to be part of the Free Speech Coalition.

"One of the things I have to hand to myself... When my wife left, I was really hurt. I feared that working in this industry was going to hurt me meeting women... Oh man, when I work into a room now as a single guy, I'm getting calls from women all over. Before, everything was off limits. Now, on AOL, when I go into a chatroom, the women are all over me. Normally, the guys have to approach the women... But these women say, oh, I heard you did the vibrator test... I heard you're a porn guy. I had five girls last night... That was just one of them telling me that she didn't want to come over... That's ok because I have another one coming over later in the evening."

Luke: "Soon you'll have a freak of the week who likes to sit on bottles and have you drink champagne from her pussy."

Mike: "I've been working hard to get to where I've gotten, and if my wife doesn't want to be around, that's tough.

"Jane Hamilton is doing my lobbying video. I think this is going to change the way the industry thinks and acts. We talk about voter registration, getting involved, making sure that politicians don't outlaw you. We pop at the front of every tape and make excerpts out of it and send it to radio and TV stations so they can do shows and talk about it."

The FSC election is running now. The deadline is December 16. All FSC members are eligible to vote. There are 12 people running for eight positions.

Mike: "Several of the people I don't know and a couple I don't talk to. Mark Kernes I like, but we disagree on everything. What do you say about Bill Margold and Gloria Leonard? They've been here forever."

XXX writes Luke: "I read Mark Kernes whining on geneross.com. He says FSC executive director Jeffery Douglas does such a great job considering its a volunteer position and he isnt paid for it. WRONG until just a couple months ago they paid douglas 60K/yr right same as Kat Sunlove, which is $59,999 more than he is worth."

Strawdaddy writes Luke: whats up luke, just wanted to say that i really dig the site. it's kind of a trip since i got the link for l-keford.com through a wrestling web site. anyways just wanted to drop you some mail and comment on some of the stuff on your page. it's not really about any of the 'important' content, but more so about the guys who are frequently featured on your site. namely the guys who have such a huge problem with others "talking s---" about them. guys like mike albo, and various other porners are always like "MAN WHEN I SEE YOU I'M GONNA WHOOP YOUR ASS!"..then when you see the pictures of these characters, the only thought that comes to mind is "who the f--- are these guys kidding?". i'm more afraid of "Screech" from saved by the bell, then i am of these clowns who are on your site. s--- talking over the internet will never cease, so the bottom line is this, people really need to take s--- talking in stride, and not sweat what other people think. and for gods sake if youre like 5'9 110 pounds stop talking like youre some bad ass. but if you do decide to still act like a bad ass, then play it smart and dont scan a picture.

Serbian Porno

Andrea Dworkin writes in the 9/5/93 Los Angeles Times:

And then the Serbian soldiers started making pornography: Well, why not? Are we Americans going to understand that the war against women--including the genocidal Serbian war of aggression against women in Bosnia and Croatia--is rape, prostitution and pornography? Or do we think that Serbian nationalist thugs are "expressing themselves" in the pornographic landscape of sex and murder with which our still-male government--not to mention the United Nations--is loathe to interfere? Are the films of rapes being made now in the Serbian-run rape/death camps in occupied areas of Bosnia and Croatia--even of rapes staged in order to be filmed--trivial compared with the rape itself, which later will be blamed on the victims and called prostitution?

Most prostitution everywhere in the world begins with rape: a child raped by her father; a teen-ager gang-raped by half the number of men involved in a typical Serbian military gang-rape (six instead of 12 at a time); a female child sold into sexual slavery; any girl or woman driven out of her home by male aggression, then pushed up against a wall or down on a slab of earth and used. The aggressor spits "whore" and moves on to the next victim while the raped woman, her ties to a place and people destroyed, meets the next aggressor. She will be an exile, a stigmatized, shunned refugee, polluted--in ordinary language, a whore. His invective becomes her life.

Before this war, the pornography market in Yugoslavia was, according to critic Bogdan Tirnanic, "the freest in the world." Whatever the communists suppressed, it wasn't pornography--yet another example of folks who can tell the difference between pornography and literature. The pornography was war propaganda that trained an army of rapists who waited for permission to advance. An atavistic nationalism provided the trigger and defined the targets--those women, not these women. The sexuality of the men was organized into antagonism, superiority and hatred. The lessons had been learned--not an ideology but a way of being: dehumanization of women; bigotry and aggression harnessed to destroying the body of the enemy; invasion as a male right; women as a lower life form.

Dating Tips For Luke

Please introduce Luke to a Hebrew Honey who loves pornography and Judaism.

Chaim Amalek writes: Luke, I note that NJG (I am guessing) had the following tips for you:

1. don't talk about other women.

WRONG! Talking about other women sends the message that you have options. Keep on talking about them, especially the ones who have sex with road crews and partners incapable of ever writing their memoirs (i.e., Trigger never talked, did he?).

2. don't talk about porn.

WRONG! Really, you are in porn, they are going to find out that you are in porn sooner or later anyway, so why not be upfront about it and weed out the more sensitive ones right off the bat? The sort of women who will not be utterly repelled by your vocation are likely to be turned on by it - and you certainly want them to know.

4. get some new clothes.

True to the extent your clothes betray a limited income. You should wear casual yet visibly expensive clothes. Have you ever given some thought to showing up dressed in a Tallis and Tfillin?

5. always smile.

WRONG! What are you, a clown?

6. Try not to laugh too loud because your laugh is bizarre. I think it's cute but other girls have told me.

WRONG! Screw 'em if they don't like the way you sound.

7. Jim DiGiorgio says you have to stop dressing like Columbo.

Cannot comment on this one. In general, you need better intelligence on these women, and they about you. Why not print a list of pertinant facts about yourself, and send it via email or US mail to these hebrew honeys, so that they know the real you? Also, you may wish to consider having them fill out questionaires too. You could even do a mass mailing, sending out these invitations for information via email to entire populations of potential mates.

Porn Star Trading

AOL users are unable to connect to Porn Star Trading through Dalnet.com. Dalnet has issued this message regarding its ban on AOL users: "Closing Link: ABD7F4A4.ipt.aol.com (Temporary AKill time 60 min, for You are not welcome on this network. Email kline@dal.net for more information. The reason you are banned is: Due to your domain's unwillingness or inability to deal with abuse issues, you are no longer welcome on DALnet. Please contact tosirc@aol.com. (1999/11/24 19.50)"

Luke: How else do you suggest AOLers connect to PST?

Diablo: at http://www.dal.net/ there is an option to choose telnet to dalnet. its not very user friendly however Best thing to do i guess would be to write to the email address dalnet gives in their notice.

Session Start: Thu Nov 25 00:01:17 1999

*** Now talking in #!!!!!!pornstar-trading

<PimpOfNuffin> Luke it looks like CEN has signed a deal with J stephen Hicks

<MikeSouth> I dont see any of lukes pals with noms

<MikeSouth> even Jim Gunn...totally DISSED

<MikeSouth> but Ed Powers got a lot...can you say KISS ASS.....

<`^-_-^`> It is as rigged as a Don King fight.

<Jim_Gunn> You'd be amazed Kendra set up and fixed her pc in record time, she had all the options incl, irc set up fast

*** Mussum (~user@200.244.57.69) has joined #!!!!!!pornstar-trading

<Mussum> Hello. I am a porn director from Brazil.

<BobBlec> Mussum: welcome to PsT :)

<Mussum> Thanks, BobBlec. Hey, this Luke F-rd is THE Luke F-rd?

<BobBlec> Mussum: have you had a chance to look at our web page? it's at http://www.ver-scans.com/pst/

<Mussum> Yes, I came here from there.

<BobBlec> Mussum: yeah, but he's not doing too much at the moment; he just sits here and logs stuff in the channel

<Mussum> I followed the link at Luke F-rd's page, and from there to here.

<Mussum> Only thing I want here is the chance to get some RELIABLE news, cause I am the editor of a Brazilian porn mag.

<Mussum> I hate gossip, you know.

<BobBlec> Mussum: so do we ;)

<Mussum> It's no good for credibility.

<Mussum> Hey, does Max Hardcore goes there? I think he's a good fella, I helped him (and Al Borda) to find some girls in Brazil.

<Mussum> Of course, I've heard a lot of different opinions about Max. patrick Collins hate his guts.

<Mussum> Brazilian porn market is a mess.

<Mussum> The only one making some good bucks here is John Stagliano, and even his tapes are losing steam here.

<Mussum> Brazil is a paradise for moviemakers.

<Mussum> He don't need to immigrate, all he has to do is live here.

<Mussum> As I said, Buttman's sales in Brazil dropped 40% in the last months.

<jimmyD> but the American Film Festival wont host any adult manufacturers

<jimmyD> and we produce more porn than anyone...go figure

<WarmProp> well Cannes is just a pure business thing as far as I understand, it actually lasts more than one week but the "star" thing is just a few days really

<jimmyD> business is what it's about

<WarmProp> but it's been on for decades now so it's understandable

<umea> I think that the Germans produce most porn in Europe

<jimmyD> i'm going to Joe and Barbara Spallone's today for dinner luke

Session Start: Thu Nov 25 09:44:10 1999

*** Now talking in #!!!!!!pornstar-trading

*** Topic is 'AVN awards suck. PsT Award winners at http://www.ve-scans.com/pst/poll.html

<Mussum> [Editor of Brazilian sex magazine Planet Sex] Well, he's [Walter Gernert] living in Brazil cause he will be arrested if he sets foot in USA,

<Mussum> VCB is brazilian's VCA.

<Mussum> And he just lives in a nice place by the sea, oblivious to all the porn market.

<Mussum> VCB is crumbling and he doesn't give a s---.

<Mussum> Not exactly. VCB is owned by Walter, and he distributes some VCA titles.

<Mussum> But problem is, 90% of the VCA material released here is s---.

<Mussum> So he also distributes some german and dutch porn, like Seventeen and Extrem. The ones with underaged girls.

<BearsFan> 90% of the VCA material here is s--- too

<Mussum> But nobody actually gives a s--- about the Seventeen movies being released here.

<rollerblade> We also got a Brazilian Porn Series here in Germany

<rollerblade> They claim to shoot with Brazilian Girls

<Mussum> I saw some of the Harry S. Morgan movies with brazilian girls, but they always get the ugliest ones to film.

<Mussum> And that PRICK SONOFABITCH of Robert Black, he did a really stupid movie in Brazil, Brazil Extreme.

<Mussum> Porn in Brazil is one of the biggest moneymaking machines I ever saw.

<l-keford> how large is the local porno production?

<Mussum> The PRODUCTION is relatively large, but the movies sucks cause every moron with a camera fancies himself as the next John Stagliano.

<Mussum> But there are some ugly broads too. And they're all in Rob Black's movies.

<Matt_Taylor> i have a meeting with juliet from avn on tues about rolling out the new sin city site and about my new magazine deal, Future Sex

<xxxgen> all these sex magazines - you guys just don't get it

<Matt_Taylor> whats to get, ive been selling magazines for years and just had a sell out with the Hustler XXX

<Mussum> I edited the brazilian Hustler for a short period of time.

<xxxgen> porn goes pop baby - that's all I have to say

<Matt_Taylor> gen, you channelling telly savalis

<Mussum> Luke, did you know that the brazilian Hustler, deceased after 7 or 8 issues, was owned by a PRIEST?

<xxxgen> I challenge 'em all Matt

<Matt_Taylor> gen, there is room for all

<xxxgen> lets see you find out Luke -

<Mussum> BTW, the brazilian Hustler was one of the biggest editorial flops in the last two years.

<Mussum> They printed 100.000 and sold less than 18.000.

<Matt_Taylor> i wish i had larry flynts money though

<Mussum> I did only one issue and left in the middle of the job cause they didn't paid me.

<Mussum> Then another guy took over and screwed the edition.

<Mussum> Do you know who the sucker put in the Hustler cover? GINGER LYNN!!!

<Mussum> Ginger Lynn's long forgotten here in Brazil.

<cheappornjew> she is long forgotten here in l.a.

<xxxgen> humming... pass the buck - oh pass the buck baby!!

<Mussum> Even here in Brazil we know that AVN sucks.

<Matt_Taylor> luke, the nominations are the same every year, vivid gets 50 and wins and sin city gets a few and never wins

<Matt_Taylor> but, really, the real awards are the ones left in the bank account at the end of each month

<xxxgen> we have 45,000 issues going direct to the fans - time the companies learned that's who buys the tapes

<Matt_Taylor> serving the porn consumers first and foremost

<xxxgen> you said it Matt - that's why AVN should not be the advertisors choice

<Mussum> 45.000 is good. We sell 40.000, but our magazines comes with a tape or a CD-Rom, and are priced 6 bucks.

<Matt_Taylor> why does everyone hate the avn, they just serve a purpose, if they didn't, they would not be around

<xxxgen> we are all newsstands plus an additional 15,000 direct mail

<Mussum> I don't hate AVN, I just think they're superflous, biased, and suck.

<l-keford> I project onto AVN all the things I hate about myself, then I hate AVN!

<cheappornjew> in the music biz are trade papers are just a front for payola

<xxxgen> we are just inking a UK/Eurpean distribution deal now

<Matt_Taylor> gen, you keep talking about your distribution but i never see your magazine anywhere and i travel extensively

<xxxgen> yeah - guess we actually have to get the first issue out before you can see it Matt - December

<xxxgen> I do see floor matts everywhere I go - so I guess you do get around

<Matt_Taylor> well then, if you haven't got it out yet, how do you know how much it will sell

<Mussum> xxxgen has crystal balls.

<Matt_Taylor> clairvoient

<l-keford> watch out matt, or xxxgen will call you a jerk!

<xxxgen> can't say how much it will sell - just how much people are requesting it right now

<Mussum> Hey xxxgen, are you going to call Matt Taylor a jerk? Please don't do that, you'll be being as biased as AVN!

<xxxgen> matt can't handle it... ok floor i'll back off

<Matt_Taylor> you are so tough and masculine, you intimidate me

<xxxgen> lol k - just don't reach for my crystal balls now Floor

<xxxgen> kissing my ass is good enough!! :)

<Matt_Taylor> let me get this straight, gen, you never have published any porn, so exaactly what do you do to pay that high rent up in canada

<Matt_Taylor> you earn your money the old fashion way, inherited it

<xxxgen> i'm just a genious Floor made every penny

<xxxgen> yeah - you should really love me Floor Matt

<Matt_Taylor> how can i advertise in a non existant mag

<Mussum> Matt Taylor, forgive my ignorance, but are you someone in the pornbiz?

<Matt_Taylor> [Sin City] porn producer and Luke F-rd confidant

<xxxgen> call 1-877-231-4621

<Mussum> You have good titles, pity that Sin City tanked bad in Brazil. Someone stole your name and logo, you know that?

<Matt_Taylor> i deal with another jew in brazil and sold him the name, Murry is his name

<Mussum> Oh gee. Murray was one of the guys who helped tank Hustler.

<Matt_Taylor> the only jew in brazilian porn

<Mussum> Well, we tried to make a vicious mag, and HE tried to make the Brazilian Hustler more like Penthouse.

<xxxgen> once he got them down Matt sucked them off

<Mussum> Murray is american, I think so.

<Matt_Taylor> yes, yes luke, he lives in fla and does biz in brazil

<Matt_Taylor> i am trying to think of it, give me a sec

<Mussum> You make business with him and you don't even know his hame?

<Matt_Taylor> mussum, i have people to do most of the sales

<xxxgen> hes a big business man Mussum - he can't know everything - forgive the jerk

<Matt_Taylor> aw, oh, there he goes again

<Mussum> But this Murray guy is VERY incompetent when comes to sex.

<xxxgen> :) I luv ya Floor Matt

<Matt_Taylor> i am rubber and you are glue, anything you say bounces off of me and stick to yoyu

<l-keford> forgive xxxgen, he studied at the Luke F-rd School of Manners

<xxxgen> Matt Taylor is a little girl singing his little girl songs

<Mussum> If you're just selling him movies, okay. If you're going to trust him to run some business in Brazil, forget it.

<Matt_Taylor> that was a childrens saying, meaning you are a child by calling me a jerk

<xxxgen> i'll give you a pat on your little girl head

<Matt_Taylor> mussum, who owns the majority of the video clubs in brazil

<Matt_Taylor> the stores that rent and sell video

<Mussum> The closest thing to a chain is Ponto G, owned by Walter Gernert.

<Mussum> Problem is, sex shops aren't the best thing in Brazil.

<Mussum> I told ya, there's only one relatively big company in Brazil, Ponto G, problem is... you can get any porn movie in newstands...

<Mussum> Paying only 6 bucks, even less...

<Mussum> Why one would pay 15-20 for a porn video in a sex shop?

<Mussum> Magazines with videos killed the direct market.

<Mussum> Even John Stagliano suffered a 40% downfall in sales during the last 6 months.

<Mussum> Only kind of tapes that sell, right now, are the ones with over 2 hours, and lots of anal scenes.

<Matt_Taylor> mussum, you have to adapt to the market whatever it does and change the way you are doing biz

<Mussum> Competition with mags with videos, BowWow. And the fact that Buttman's stuff is becoming boring. The movies that his partner makes in Brazil are the only ones that sells good.

<Mussum> Matt, some companies are just too stubborn of too lazy to change, that's why they keep dying like flies.

<BowWwow> the problem is, there's just so many orifices to fill. what happens when anal is too boring, I guess that's where these goden shower pix and all that nasty stuff is becoming popular?

<Mussum> Now we have like 50 companies, and the ones that are making good deals are the ones putting movies with brazilian girls.

<Mussum> Yes BowWow, Stagliano got trapped in a style and now all he does is suck.

<Mussum> Do you know who's getting pretty bad reception in Brazil? Private movies.

<BowWwow> Mussum, hey, the same seems to have even happened to Scorcese, I guess even the greats can suffer from malaise

<Mussum> Yah, but only the stupid ones never change.

<Mussum> Even the guys who run Evil Angel in Brazil are stuck in the old formula. One day I told Stagliano's associate

<BowWwow> i miss Bruce 7's work. too bad he's so sick. At least bionca is carrying on his torch, pretty well.

<MadisonFan> the problem is when they change too much, theres a fine line there you have to keep from crossing

<Mussum> "Hey, do you know that when John dies, your empire will crumble!"

<Mussum> I met Sam Raimi in an italian film festival once.

<Mussum> He told me that half the budged for DARKMAN went right thru his nostrils, LOL.

<Mussum> Funniest thing I ever saw was Max Hardcore trying to smuggle pot here in Brazil.

<Mussum> Damn, he can buy pot anywere here!

<Mussum> He was smoking a joint in the beach, when a policeman was passing by, and he was freaked out. I waved to the policeman,

<Mussum> the policeman just waved back, and Max almost pissed himself. I told him "no problem Max, easy man!"

<MadisonFan> best thing about max is he dresses the girls up very very hot, then he ruins it with his schtick

<Mussum> i told that to him, but... well, he does what he wants to do.

<MadisonFan> pushing the girls pussy thru her asshole and then rubbing his dick on it, whats the hell is that

<Mussum> In the european version, he pisses in their faces.

<MadisonFan> he obviously has enuff fans to do what he wants

<Mussum> I am more into stories, like Nic Cramer's movies.

<Mussum> Problem is, I used to direct some movies here, but they want me to make a video quick and fast and cheap!

<BowWwow> I always wonder how kids deal with the fact that their parents do or make porn, but then I remember the guy I grew op with who's dad owned the "Pink Pussy Cat Club" I guess it's about the same. The funniest was when his dad sponsored his Little League team. His team's hats had the name and logo of the club on them, haha!

<jimmyD> [Director James DiGiorgio] daughter is a senior in HS...has a 3.2 ... has never gotten into any trouble... works a p/t job and volunteers at a day care...what more can ya ask for

<jimmyD> my budgets are as low as 12k and have been as high as 40k

<Mussum> You can make six movies with that budget in Brazil.

<jimmyD> s---...maybe i oughta go to brazil

<Mussum> I once did a movie with $ 600. And it was the best one I ever did.

<jimmyD> now i know why jimgunn went...cuz hez one CHEAP MOTHERf---ER

<Mussum> Robert Black did a movie in Brazil, with a lot of ugly broads, and he said a lot of stupid things about my country.

<Mussum> Hey Jimmy, here's a title for you: WHORROR HOUSE

<Mussum> I coined this name for Evan Wright, the guy from Hustler.

<Mussum> There's a place in Brazil called Vila Mimosa, that's a f---ing CITY of hookers.

<Mussum> Uh-oh. Luke will kill me, but I just remember that I've printed the news about him coming out of the closet in my magazine...

<Mussum> Now it's on all the newstands, and it's too late to fix it!

<Mussum> Holy mamacita, Luke put the stuff I said in his homepage! :o)

<`^-_-^`> Mussum, chatting about anything with Luke is like teaching a pig to mudwrestle... you get s--- and mud all over you and the pig likes it.

<Mussum> I did half the girls from the movies Stagliano made in Brazil.

<l-keford> If I ever use Adam as a gauge for how I do my site, I always try to do the opposite of what he supports.

<JimGunn> That's finr BUT there wqs a passage where Heaven said how nice it was to work for me and you juxatposed my response to her to make it look like i was encouraging soemthing that somemone else (Rog) said about blowjobs ors oemthing.

<adamjm> that's cuz you're a worthless bitch with no integrity

<JimGunn> In other words you took our three coments, cut and pasted them to completely change the conversation.

<l-keford> whatever guys, i try to find the most interesting bits, i spent no time thinking about the editing, sorry Jim you feel that way

<J0HNG0TTI> l-keford: you wrote that i told you that our dinner was an authentic italian dinner for authentic italian mobsters

<l-keford> yes JG, i made that up

<JimGunn> So you are saying you didn't do that on purpose Luke?

<Mussum> We [Planet Sex magazine] release 4 editions/month, three with videos and one with a CD-Rom.

<Mussum> I do the Made In Brazil and CD-Rom editions, Primati does the regular PS and the special editions.

<Mussum> I used to work for the Brazilian Hustler too, but wimpy publishers give me menstrual cramps.

<Mussum> But at planet Sex I don't have this kind of restrictions, so I can make crazy stories like the chemical composition of the fart, stuff like thet.

<Mussum> It's like, every f---ing mag keeps saying the same thing over and over, HOW TO MAKE ANAL SEX, MENAGE A TROIS...

<Mussum> Then I do crazy stuff like stories about snuff movies, Rene Bond, pirate Betty Boop porn toons, things like that.

<VideoEd> dont get luke started on snuff films

<Mussum> I saw some real snuffs some time ago.

<l-keford> mussum, tell me about the real snuff films you saw?

<VladTepesJr> Luke must have a script running that pages him every time a certain word arises....snuff, gay, jew, stuff like that

<Mussum> [this is a prank on Luke] Luke... I saw one where a girl is raped and then dismembered with an axe.

<VideoEd> mussum: did rob black direct it?

<adamjm> was the girl in a wheel chair?

<Mussum> The girl is tied to a table and raped by three guys. Then they poke her eyes out and start cutting her with an axe.

<Mussum> The cut her arm, and then her head.

<VideoEd> your convinved it was real mussum?

<l-keford> what is the setting? what country? Are you sure it is real?

<MadisonFan> the guidelines on what makes a "snuff film" is too strict

<Mussum> Pretty sure, and the movie was colombian.

<Mussum> In fact, who sent me this movie was the singer from Faith No More, Mike Patton.

<VideoEd> Luke is drooling now

<JimGunn> I can see Luke's hardon from here

<VideoEd> I can see the headlines

<VladTepesJr> I think I just heard Luke having an orgasm

<JimGunn> "Faith No More" Singer traffics in snuff movies.

<VideoEd> "PST discovers the World's First Snuff Film"

<JimGunn> I can see the headline "Musician Enjoys Snuff Films"

<adamjm> luke is cleaning off his keyboard

<MadisonFan> lots of films have looked real but have been fake, like guinea pig

<Mussum> Luke, the movie is 30 minutes long.

<MadisonFan> Mussum- did the guy have a mask on?

<Mussum> There were three guys. One of them was black, no mask. The others were masked.

<Mussum> Madison fan, that was not a fake snuff cause ALL the action was done with a fixed camera, no cuts at all.

<Mussum> They hang the camera in the ceiling and dismembered the girl in one take.

<l-keford> Did she consent to this?

<MadisonFan> haha

<Mussum> Duh. No, Luke.

<l-keford> no model release?

<MadisonFan> luke is funny

<MadisonFan> is her id on file?

<Mussum> She looked underaged, Luke. Is that spicy enough for you?

<Mussum> She looked 16 and screamed a lot.

<VideoEd> wonder if mike shot her

<VideoEd> kendra will swear that mike shot that movie without the girl having a model release

<MadisonFan> al goldstein from screw once offered big money for a snuff film, there were no takers

* `^-_-^` has been on shoots with Mike.... He is VERY adamant about the id and model release thing.