Friday, October 29th, 1999
LFP's Mark Cromer Blown Away
Lynne L-patin, recently arrested and convicted for carrying a loaded weapon without a permit, is now a Hustler Jail Babe.
Lynne told Luke Friday morning: "I'm an official Hustler Jail Babe for having gotten David [Hardman] upset, and carrying a gun. And I've got tattoos and I f--- a black guy [Lucky, a big dicked black man who lives with her] on a concrete floor. And I'm 44 years old and in good enough shape to do it. Now all decent people can despise me and demonize me again.
"The interesting part of it was the journalist."
Luke: "Journalist, what's that?"
Lynne: "There's a journalist that sets these things up. Mark Cromer."
Luke: "I thought he was fired?"
Lynne: "Is he not a journalist?
"Well, he's still getting blown."
Luke:"Really?"
Lynne: "Usually he pays the performer a couple of dollars extra to blow him. Which is ridiculous but it gives him what he needs... I blow journalists for free. I'm not a slut. I'm a writer. People who can read and write, I'm happy to blow them.
"Of course that demonizes me completely. It makes it absolutely impossible to go out and get a hamburger. It's ok for him to stick his dick in my face and it's ok for me to suck it but it's not ok for me to call him afterwards and say, 'I enjoyed sucking your dick.' That's stalking. That's why women don't ask men out because men get upset and treat you even worse.
"It was a good scene. It was a catharsis... It confirmed my suspicion that I have no interest in sex whatsoever. It doesn't mean I can't have orgasms. It does mean that I'd rather be shopping. And when you met me, you wouldn't say that about me.
"If you find somebody who has a brain and you meet them in the context of porno, they're forced instantly to despise you because you're a woman and they wouldn't be there if they didn't have an issue with women. I have all these intergenerational relationships with young men so I can say, this is a mommy - son thing, not a sex thing.
"It all goes back to, how do I get a guy to take me to a movie without letting him know that I am interested?
"I was scheduled to work with Jack Hammer but he couldn't make it... Lucky has an extremely large black man's penis... But he doesn't hurt me...
"I've done a scene before with Jack Hammer and he was a little rough... So I thought I should call him so we could practice... I haven't had any sex since August. So I called him and said that it would be a good idea to practice. And he said, oh, ok, I'll call you back. Of course he didn't. So I called him again and then he cancelled. It helped me feel like a real criminal monster to get out there and know that I am that scary.
"They're expecting some 5'9" acne-scarred Harley-riding bulldog and they get me [Lynne is tiny]..."
Lynne: "I met Kid Vegas at [Jim Powers'] bukkake. And he and Lucky made a deal to go to some club later... And he's standing there talking to Lucky and talking about driving. And I drive. It's my car. Lucky has no car. So I said, excuse me but you need to be talking to me because I'm the one who's driving. They hate that.
"I drove back to my house and he followed me here. And he and Lucky went to some party in Hollwyood. I stayed home in bed... And Lucky says that Kid Vegas's opinion of me was that I am a space cadet. He thought that was pretty funny being that I am not.
"Kid Vegas abandoned Lucky at a club so he had to get a ride home from a stranger.
"I don't think any young male 25 or so has any business forming an opinion about me whatsoever because I am 20 years older than he and he can't possibly know what I know. And having a penis doesn't give you knowledge, wisdom, experience. In fact, if anything it tends to discourage those things and make you impetuous.
"Then I looked up Kid Vegas on the web, your site I think... And he can't spell... So I figure when he called me a space cadet, he meant something like "c-a-d-d-e-g."
"Cute kid though, and I can see why the same group that patted you [Luke] on the head, like him. Brings out the faggot in everybody.
"I was explaining this to Lucky, how did this guy get to be so important and get his name all around... He's a cute guy and these people don't want women...
"I start my community service Tuesday. And I'm going to see if I can make a deal with David [Hardman]'s sister Cynthina, I won't take any drugs for an entire month if she will lose 20 pounds. I don't think she can do it. I know I can do anything I want. And I'm just down to some really bad pot and some occassional champagne."
Thursday night Nice Jewish Girl left a message for Mike Albo, the editor of Hustler Erotic Video Guide. She tried to intercede in our disputation over the meaning of the word "fairy."
Mike left Luke a couple of phone messages Friday morning.
8:52AM: "Hey listen dickhead, this is Albo. First of all, I never threatened your life. And I'll tell you exactly what I am going to do again. When I see you, I'm going to break every f---ing bone in your face. You're going to be in a hospital for a month. You're going to have to eat soft food for six months. I'm going to knock out every one of your f---ing teeth too. Listen, stay the f--- away from me if you don't want to get your ass kicked...
"I don't like you. You are a dishonorable lying sonofabitch. You claim to be super Jew and yet you violate every f---ing commandment there is.
"Stay the f--- away from me. Don't have your f---ing bitch call me, Nice Jewish Girl. I swear to God Luke you have crossed the line... And I better not find out that the National Film Board of Canada is using any taped reproduction of my voice because if they do, they've got a lawsuit on their hands and you will be a part of it. But it may not matter because you're going to be laid up in a hospital. Just so you know Luke, I'm going to beat you f---ing down."
At 11:43AM, Mike said: "Hey douchebag, I've been thinking about the phone call I got from your little pal Nice Jewish Girl. If she's so concerned about patching things up, you better tell her that there's nothing she can do to stop me from beating your ass down. If she wants to be helpful, she can say a prayer for you because that is the only thing that's going to help you. It might take me years Luke but I'm going to find you and I am going to beat you to a bloody pulp. I'm not going to kill you so you don't have to worry about that. Somebody else will do that for me.
"Stay the f--- out of my way. Don't bother me because I am going to find you. And I don't want any more phone calls from your f---ing psycho bitch. So keep your little girlfriend on a leash.
"Not only are you a liar, not only are you a person who can't keep his word, not only are you delusional, you have to have a chick stand up for you. Jesus, how do you live with yourself. At what age did you have your balls removed? You're a f---ing pussy. But I don't have any problems beating you down because you have just pushed me beyond all reason. There's nothing you can do to save yourself...
"Carry a gun with you at all times because nothing would please me more than to take that out of you and to pistol whip you into unconsciousness. I am going to f--- you up pal."
Harry writes Luke: "Albo definately gets off on this stuff in some twisted way - his little psychosexual power trip. Just like any harraser. The amount of calls he makes makes it obvious. I wonder if he jerks off while doing this - is it audible?"
Luke: Yes.
From http://www.condomproject.com/msgboard/:
Raw Alex writes: The last week or so has shown a certain low level I thought we would never get to. The humor has gone out of alot of this. Now a humourous comment might end up being misquoted and misapplied by a hatch-wielding "journalist" who gets his kicks out making news up. I hope someone gets a lawyer after the little s---. Here Luke, here's a quote "RawAlex thinks that Luke F-rd is a fraud, a liar, and misrepresents everything that he reads, sees, or hears. He makes up stories as he goes along. 100% pure scam artist that makes the National Enquirer look like the Wall Street Journal." Publish that, you s---.
Brandy Alexandre, Eden Rae
Becky Carols writes Luke: Luke, I had to respond after Brandy Alexandre's, Jenteal's, and Bianca Trump's comments on my post on Monday. I knew Brandy would defend her geeky boyfriend Michka as long as he's still paying her rent! She's actually laughing at all the pathetic fans that keep sending her money! Why do you think she doesn't even have to get a real job anymore? I requested some pics of her on pornstar trading since there's nothing even softcore about her on the entire internet! "Diablo Jobs for a $1" said he hangs a picture of Brandy on his door on Halloween to scare the kids away! Do a deja search for the proof. BTW, he never posted any pics of her.
Luke, don't be fooled by Brandy, she's a very good manipulator. Go ask Jimmy Mack that is, if he hasn't committed suicide yet! Brandy just said that she doesn't find blacks attractive and that's why she never did them or even film them doing other white girls in her porn flicks. Such BS! I can find at least a few girls from every race attractive! Angel Kelly, Leanni Lei, Kobe Tai, Stephanie Swift, Sylvia Saint, you get the point. So Brandy can't find one black guy on this earth that's good looking to her? This is the same girl that said in a RAME post that Denzel Washington looks good (but she really said it to cover her ass against the wrath of Mike Paul)! How many ugly white guys like Bill Margold did she screw with no problem? But she would never even think about doing muscular Mr. Marcus? The girl belongs in an insane asylum! The real reason Brandy the Atheist never made it big in porn is because she's so average looking. Hell, look at her! No wonder she was always the last choice for a director when an actual sexy girl didn't show up!
BTW Luke, what kind of person joins a HERPES newsgroup? How about someone who has HERPES! I won't name any names but, you get the idea! 8^) I was surprised Jenteal even responded since she has to get permission from her suitcase pimp fiance on whom to f--- (sorry, whites only!), when to talk, or even when to fart! Otherwise, she'd get bitch slapped! Never disobey your pimp, sweetcheeks! She said she hasn't been in RAME because it would take too much time to catch up. Hey genius, it's a sex newsgroup, not Meet the Press! Damn, I knew Jenteal was an illiterate, high school dropout cum dump but this is unreal! In ACME, she once called me a loser but spelled it "looser"! Do a deja search Luke for a good laugh.
Moving on to (cough) lovable Bianca Trump (cough). Did hell just freeze over?! Bianca has a serious boyfriend who might marry her and is NOT paying to screw her?! Luke, we all know that every man wants to marry a prostitute! There's nothing more beautiful than a hooker in a virgin white wedding dress! Excuse me while I go throw up! She's actually begging for votes to win Hustler's Whore of the Year or whatever! How pathetic...
Eden Rae, who looks like Elvira on crack (check out the November edition of Fox mag and see for yourself!) was crying and bitching on RAME not too long ago about how she got her life threatened for doing a black guy. My response was rejected by the MODS. They said it was a personal attack on Eden. Of course, her own post was a personal attack on the RAME posters! Eden then ran away from RAME but is now suddenly back. So Luke, I hope you repost this on your site and have her answer: It's obvious to me that deep down inside, you never wanted to do black guys to begin with. You said you were raped by a black guy yet you have no problem having sex with numerous white guys. Is this the typical reaction of a rape victim? Now you let a few racist scumbags scare you with their BS e-mails? None of those pieces of trash would ever have the guts to go up to Nina Hartley and tell her not to do interracial because they would get bitch-slapped! Nina takes BS from no one! They're all cowards hiding behind a keyboard!
We all know that you did the Bogus Brothers (who are Hispanic) and didn't get any hate mail for that. But, after you recently did a black guy, you're life is threatened? The only one you should fear is your ex-husband. It's obvious that he's a devout racist and yet, you still stayed with him. Why do most girls in the sex industry pick losers as husbands and/or boyfriends? Most of these low lives are even unemployed! Did you think you could change him? Guess what honey, that never works! You could have easily made your own movies and worked with whomever you wanted to instead of waiting all this time for the "right opportunity". Or, you could have gone to Sean Michaels, Mr. Marcus, or Jake Steed (all of whom have their own video lines) and worked with them. Did you actually think doing porn films wouldn't affect your life? You're going to let a small handful of losers, who have nothing better to do, scare you away with their pathetic e-mail threats? You're just using racism as an excuse to get sympathy from us but, you can't fool RAMER's!
Shady Businessmen Murdered
According to an anonymous email, leading porn webmaster have ties to shady dead internet investors.
Rbg: "Luke, Apparently these people lost alot of money for someone who was obviously pissed and killed them ..plain and simple . But looking at their stockinvestor.com site reveals a heavy handed recommendation to buy stock in an IBM Partners Company???? IBM is mentioned repeatedly along with Latin Americsn potential etc. If this is for real ....then IBM has changed its ways or learned from their mistake in Mexico ...a potential market of 53 million people that they screwed themselves out of. I mean when you pull out of the mMexico City airport to go downtown , you will see every major computer companies billboard except one....IBM. Why ? ...well from what I have heard ..the Mexican government(can you say King) wanted a 1 million dollar ahh..???fee? to do business in the country . IBM said "ok", then went on international/national TV telling everyone that they had to pay a million dollars to get into the market.. Needless to say the King returned the money and told them to hit the road.. I think it is just a little to co-incidental that the "companies they keep " are located in the drug manufacturing capitals of the world?"
Shhh writes Luke: "You are certainly stirring up some s--- on the Adult Net as of late Luke. Do you do any real journalism yourself or do you just print whatever any anonymous source emails or tells you? There are real stories worth investigation on the Adult Net but you don't seem to have the skills or the discipline to be a working cyber journalist. Do you consider yourself a journalist?
"That murder story is scary. First, Serge is way too smart to be directly involved in any scams. I can almost guarantee he has no holdings in either SLEU or BIG HUB. Birbair if you watch him work the boards is a student of human behaviour, he makes it a point to gather as much information, personal and business, on everybody. It's good business and he uses the information to protect himself and also to use against people, sometimes just for the sport of it.
"Now Joe Elkin is a different story he was a major player in SLEU and I believe BIGHUB. He'd come on the chatboards and give 'wink wink nudge nudge' tips to get on the SLEU bandwagon before key dates. I almost bit on it but thank god my girlfriend is a CPA and watches my investing habits like a hawk. Serge and Joe Elkind are friends, in fact if you read the board yesterday, he had a lunch meeting with Elkind and his partner JB yesterday.
"About a year ago or so Serge and Elkin had a major pissing match on the boards. Serge had information on several scams Elkind was involved in before he got on the Net, I remember Serge repeatedly claiming some goons chasing Elkind around a shopping mall parking lot.. funny story as I remember it. I've never heard of stockinvestor.com but it is very interesting that they were promoting two mainstream companies Elkind has interests in. The name Mayer does ring some bells however. I'll ask around about it.
"You asked what happened between Mojo and Serge? Who really knows but Serge has this hunger to handle the most Net clicks he is driven by it. Usually before he makes another assault on his version of MT Everest he engineers a mother of a public fight with somebody in the biz. Maybe its just to get his juices going. The informant who told you about Serge's bosses was right. Total scam sites. But they will buy traffic from anywhere or anybody, HUGE amounts of traffic, and they really don't care about the quality.
"Serge used to scare the s--- out of people who sent him clicks, there were very strict rules in his click program and if he caught you even slightly in the wrong he'd go ballistic. Now he buys almost any kind of traffic in his quest to be the true king of clicks. He admitted today that he has no idea how his traffic converts so I figure he's now sending his sponsors any s--- and until his sponsor complains who gives a f---. Serge rewards people he likes and who can provide him with major clicks. He has put many of these people into the click business by showing them the ropes and inspiring them. Many of these people have in return screwed Serge.
"A sleazeball named PUshrod was a pathetic Web wannabe who Serge befriended and put into the click business, he made his fortune and betrayed Serge they no longer speak. Pushrod is a major league cheater, in fact i know very few webmasters who haven't been shortchanged by Pushrod.
"Mojo was another of Serge's students but much smarter than Pushrod and now has several click companies that are very successful. All of a sudden Serge started pissing with one of Mojo's boys, Ron 12 Clicks. My theory is that Serge was looking for a fight with somebody. Like I said when Serge is hungry for more traffic a major brouhaha usually comes along. He basically turned YNOT into a ghosttown by leading a revolt against what he felt was an anti-business and censorship policy. His accusations did have some validity but the real reason Serge caused the ruckus and the melodramatic exit from YNOT is that he knew he had worked that board for all it was worth and he had his eyes set on new territory - The CONDOMPROJECT... an incubator for Adult Net newbies that was growing strong to over 2000 members.
"Needless to say the CONDOMPROJECT literally shot their loads in their pants when Serge arrived on their doorstep looking for place to set up shop. The CONDOMPROJECT honchos weren't really up to much, Net rubes if you will. They were hard workers and ambitious folks however, ready to be shown the way by their saviour Serge. It was really quite pathetic the performance they put on for Uncle Serge, he'd shout JUMP and they'd cry HOW HIGH!
"In the year since Serge took them under his wing, the partners who own Condom, renamed NetPond, have become rich. Sure they've sold out most of their ideals but they are rich far beyond any of their individual talents would have taken them without Serge's benevolence.
"Back to Mojo, Serge was looking for a reason to get pissed off and in this business where almost everybody scams to some extent he found Mojo and his underlings breaking all sorts of rules agreed to in traffic deals. I took a look at some of Mojo's transgressions and I was pretty shocked that the guy would pull that kind of newbie bulls--- on somebody who'd made him filthy rich. I lost a lot of respect for Mojo.
"I read the boards, they are addictive but I haven't posted to either YNOT or Netpond in almost a year. You can do more harm to your business than anything positive you might get from doing it nowadays. Very few important players post to either of them anymore. You can see the quality of the individuals who hang out on them now - LOSERS who use the board as a substitute for a real life.
"By the way, tell James DiGiorgio that I spotted Paul Fishbein, Steve Hirsch, Serge and David Sturman at church on Sunday. Former altar boys, they were deeply touched by the Church at a tender age, and hence entered porno."
COLTS NECK, N.J. –– Two Internet penny stock promoters found shot to death had ties to "shady" business dealings, which may ultimately have led to their execution-style killings, a prosecutor said. Alain Chalem, 41, and Mayir Lehmann, 37, were found early Tuesday face down on the bloodstained marble floor of the estate Chalem shared with his girlfriend and her 13-year-old son.
Though investigators have not pinpointed a motive or suspects, Monmouth County Prosecutor John Kaye said the attack likely was at least partly tied to the pair's penny stock Web operation, www.stockinvestor.com, or other ventures. "It was probably related to the victims' business activities," Kaye said, "and the killer or killers feared something else more than the loss of money."
The Securities and Exchange Commission last year charged Lehmann and other defendants with distributing false information about companies after Electro Optical System Corp. stock rose from 50 cents to more than $5 per share in one day. Investors eventually lost at least $10 million in that scheme, authorities have said. Lehmann agreed in January to pay $630,000 in penalties.
Between 1994 and 1996, Chalem worked at the brokerage A.S. Goldman, which was indicted in July in New York on charges connected with stock manipulation, forgery and illegal trading. The firm has denied the accusations, and Chalem was not named in those charges. The men's Web site used mass e-mails to promote penny stocks to prospective investors. In exchange, the partners received commissions or discounted stock from securities firms.
The Web site was registered in Panama and managed in Hungary. "Penny" or "micro-cap" stocks are cheap, highly speculative securities that are vulnerable to investor manipulation. Authorities suspect the victims' Web site was based overseas to avoid SEC scrutiny. Kaye called the men's business practices "shady."
Anonymous writes: "These guys promoted: http://www.stockinvestor.com/ * SLEU Recommendation * SLEU latest news releases * BHUB latest news releases. SLEU and BHUB is controlled by insiders which include Joe Elkin, Serge Birbrair, and others writing on Condom."
Serge responds: Well, if categorically refuse to be shot over some penny stock, this is not my style. Therefore, if I get found in the pool of blood on the floor, the real reasons would be: 1) I single handedly caused drop of the Waste Management stock {fortune 500 company} 2) Earthquake in Taiwan was organised by me and russian mafia, we had short position in HWP, IBM, Dell {all Fortune 500 companies} and their drop after the earthquake netted me $11,679 BILLION dollars, $10 billion of which I laundered thru the Bank of NY, {Fortune 500 company} 3) I guess it would be fruitless to deny that Hurricaine Floyd was caused by my short positions in Aetna, AllState Insurance {Fortune 500 companies} 4) The revelation which was NEVER made public, but I believe it's time: My grandfather caused Titanic to go down. Family history doesn't reveal the reasons why, but let the truth be known. 5) Question to Netpond readers, Guess who is REALLY responcible for Y2K bug?
Globiz writes on Condom board: "It's been on the national news and news magazine programs several times that a lot of the penny stockbrokers either have been involved with the mob or recieved pressure from them. Wouldn't be surprised if these two guys were in on something. But I wouldn't go so far as to say it's related to those two stocks. Typically, from what I remember of the news stories, organized crime will either manipulate the stock in a going concern or in a shell corporation in order to make profits. They had a broker on one of the programs who'd been threatened by the mob because he was trading one of the stocks and it was screwing up their plans."
Alex: "Thankfully for me, Luke F-rd stopped existing earlier today. A lowlife scum who links unrelated facts and innuendo with nothing more than spit and a little thread. I hope you enjoy lawyers, I think JoeE has a good lawyer."
DELRAY BEACH, Fla.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Oct. 28, 1999--Global DataTel, Inc. has received inquiries from shareholders and the Wall Street Journal Interactive today concerning a Web site www.stockinvestor.com.
Richard Baker, Global's CEO and Chairman, stated: ``Global DataTel has never met, nor spoken with www.stockinvestor.com. We have no affiliation with them nor did we ever solicit their buy recommendation of the Company. Our only knowledge of this Web site came today after the first inquiry.''
Robert writes: "Luke, this [Vivid Video] billing scam started back in April of this year. That was when I received the first spam mail taking me to their sites. Yes, they all have the same format..Obsessions.com, cun-tv.com, among others . The only decent stuff to these sites is the "live Video" feeds...and interactive.....But c'mon people you REALLY didn't thing you could do the trial offer thing and not get charged....OF COURSE THAT IS THE SCAM....but Luke this is not just in the adult online experience...ITS with MOST(credit card enabled) of them ...Liike AAA emergency auto service....and any other crdit card you hold that calls you when you sit down to eat about their great "term life insurance rates" or "purchase protection" scams. The adult industry took the nod that it was ok from the CREDIT CARD ISSUERS COMPANIES. How much money does the credit card issuers stand to make when an outlet store the size of the internet REQUIRES that you have a credit card to do just about anything? C'mon peeps, whose REALLY reking in the dough. DIG a little deeper, man .You don't think the freakin idiots in porn started this do you?"
XXXwebmaster tells Luke: "You could have a field day for the next ten weeks with IEG, because they are right up there with Vivid Video as far as what they've been doing with the double billing... IEG is the filth of the industry.
"Porn stars are getting f---ed over by webmasters every day. I've had several people from Jill Kelly to Racquel Darrian to Houston complain to me about Don Osterholt's Atlas Multimedia... I've had no dealings with him personally, so I don't know...
"I try to stay away from [huge porn webmaster] Serge because he's controversial. And when you're outspoken in the industry and a controversial figure, you usually want to either kiss their ass or you want to stay away from them...
"Serge did a lot of bad things to YNOTmasters.com. He used to go on their boards and rip apart these newbies... He's got a great niche helping webmasters. He knows the industry and has been there since the beginning. The report you ran a couple of days ago was extremely accurate.
XXXWebmaster: "Without Paul Fishbein and AVN, you can't have any presence in this industry. This last trade show we had in Miami, IA2000, was the most professional, best run trade show yet. AVN bought it from Steve Hearn. I know a lot of people are bitching that AVN raised the booth prices but it is the old cliche, it is only expensive if it doesn't work. We got great mileage of that last show. It gave us great exposure.
"Fishbein is a diplomat, a politician, and he's going to tell everybody what they want to hear. You can't bite the hand that feeds you. AVNonline.com has become a saturated magazine... You have to place your ad in there for political reasons. If you're not in there, it hurts your business. AVNonline.com is where every webmaster goes to find out what's new in the business."
Luke: "You're kidding? It's just a rewrite of press releases."
XXX: "You can find out in a myriad of ways. You can go to ynot or the condom board and learn about day to day things. AVNonline started as a magazine catering to the trade show IA2000. You get to the trade show and you unpack and you set up your booth, there are a zillion magazines there. That's when the webmasters go through the magazine and go, who do I have to go see in the next few days. Who has the coolest ads? Who's the best ISP and who has the best content. Who do I have to schmooze this week and buy dinner for?
"Where else do you find a content provider? You can go to YNOT and get their Top Ten list of content providers, but these are people who simply paid YNOT to get on their list. YNOT is not saying that these are the top ten providers, just the top ten payers... AVNonline is a place for anybody getting into the web to advertise.
"Paul Fishbein and Steve Hirsch are great guys. Straight forward, likeable, honest... I think as much as Vivid hates you [Luke F-rd], they couldn't live without you. Because they like to see what's happening... The bottom line in this business is ego, being talked about...
"I don't see Kendra Jade from photo galleries... I don't get her movies... I know her from your site and the Jerry Springer Show.
"David Schlessinger at Vivid Video runs their internet operation. He's a good guy. He's been warned about some of the traps they've used in getting people to sign up. I hope this bad publicity on your site will prompt him to fix things... This is the fastest thing that will bring you down. If you start getting a backlash of chargebacks for getting double-billed... But Vivid are stand-up guys providing that these problems don't keep occuring.
"It's [avnonline] only influential in the sense that when you have the AVN magazine in your hand at the trade show, it gives you an angle, an advantage... They put it in their bags, read it on the airplane on the way back from the trade show... It is valuable to have. You can't do big business without advertising in AVN.
"Ron Levi and cybererotica.com are huge, reliable and have probably paid out more money to webmasters [sending traffic] than anyone. Rich Botto aka RB aka Maximum Cash and Kara's Adult Playground is number two.
"Ron is a pioneer, around since the beginning of internet porn. He's vocal. You either love him or hate him. You can't do much in this industry and with other webmasters if you are on the outs with Ron Levi. His front guy Johnathan Silverstein comes from IEG. John and Ron combined are the greatest marketing machine on the web. They have different things coming out every month. He pays you to have his counter on your site. Ego drives a lot of people in this industry...
"Ron stands for alot of good stuff that happens in this industry... He's set a lot of precedents as far as memberships and retention... Cybererotica.com has the most content. He has the most feeds. He has the most toys. He's the same way in his personal life. He owns a couple of Viper racing cars...
"A word to the wise - don't ever f--- with him. If you f--- with Ron Levi, he will f---ing come down on you. He has big boys working for him.
"Mike Fold leads by example. He works with Terri Welles the former Playmate who beat Playboy in the lawsuit...
"You have a big advantage right now is that most of these web guys know who you are and what you do. They'll still give you information.
"Carl Bernard owns Gamma Cash... He brings in $10-$15 million a month.
"Steve Cohen of sex.com is real ugly. A convicted felon, fraudulent, claims he gets 100 million hits a day... You don't want to align with him or even write about him. If you even talk to him, people will say, f--- this guy... He sued everybody with sex.com in their name. He pissed off so many people. And he hijacked the domain, stealing it while he was in prison...
"Unfortunately, people want to read more about the filth than about the good people.
"People are getting real sick of Brad Shaw, this 24 year old punk who started SIC Cash. He decided to shake up the boards by talking s--- about a lot of people... If you've got a problem, pick up the phone and give me a call. Don't air our dirty laundry on the chat boards. If you do that, people will get pissed... He started talking s--- about Ron Levi Wednesday... He doesn't understand that everybody works one of Ron Levi's programs. He wants to be controversial and make a name for himself...
"Babenet has a great feed. Rob Gould..."
Luke: "They ripped off Ron Levi's program."
XXX: "I don't know. In this business, everybody rips off everybody. There's nothing original..."
Luke: "Do you think the AVN Awards are for sale?"
XXX: "Not anymore. Now that there's been some light shined on it, I think they will be very careful. At one time, maybe... It will always come down to the companies who spend the most money with AVN...
"Twenty percent of the adult internet market is run by the biggies, but the biggies have their hands in everything.
Mike South writes Luke: As usual you got it all wrong....:) I quit Adlutstarsmagazine.com because Jill Kelly is a principle there. Jill Kelly also represents personalporn.com and I am in a legal action against them. I quit ASM as a result...I AM currently working for ...TADA!...XXXGen and its a pay gig to boot so I am happy. Jill is not suing me, that I know of.
Craig Vasiloff Denies Humping Jade
Luke's sponsor Craig Vasiloff claims he did not touch that woman, Miss Jade. Craig writes:
I know I rarely comment on the postings in your site. There is the transcript of your conversation with Kendra Jade however that I have to speak to.
Kendra Jade has worked for XXXgen Magazine and FANtastic! for that matter because she is dedicated, determined and a damn beautiful woman. Kendra has been nothing if not completely professional and a dream to work with. I have had many complain to me about various women in this industry but I have to say if you treat them fairly and with respect - you generally get the same in return.
I am not 'f---ing' Kendra Jade. In my position I make it a rule not to have sex with people I deal with in business.
Through XXXgen Magazine I am hoping to change the view of the adult industy as one frequented by hoods and whores to one that like any other successful industry takes pride in its work and product and is no less 'professional' than a company such a Microsoft. Bill Gates' business practices have long been an issue in the finance world.
No one owes anyone anything in this business - the fans expect a good product - AVN has been great in summing things up - accuse them of favoritism - so what? - that's business - that's also what makes the arrival of another Magazine exciting. We all have a particular take on things - a way of looking at what is in front of us - so one mag - or performer - or company for that matter may be better suited to you. But do we need to s--- on the rest? Or acknowledge their existance and differences and let them do what they do.
Mike Ross and others fight for our right to free speach - I think we should look within before we look outside. I guess I went on a little long here - just hate to see someone get hurt by loose comments. (Which means I should really just shut down your whole site!) I believe in your right to write as you choose. So I am just practising as I preach.
Email: "Luke, Craig can obfuscate all he wants, but it is well known that he and Roger Pipe and Jim Gunn regularly host orgies at the XXXGen headquarters. Mike South dresses up as a nun... There are Prague hookers, Christy Lake's dog.... It's not a pretty site. America, wake up! Fantastic! plans to eat your children alive!"
Ronnie writes (forwarded to Luke by Kendra Jade): "To all the stupid punkasses, all i can say is Jasmine St. Claire (a really realistic last name she chose, considering she's a Persian ho!) can't even hold a light to Kendra, one of the sweetest persons around and not to mention an incredible piece of ass!!;)~ For you who attack our queen with such profanity, I have one thing to say to you! I wouldn't cross the street to pis on you if you were engulfed in flames!"
KendraJXXX: i notice you did not post the one i sent you where someone
finally takes MY side and DEFENDS ME
Luzdedos1: it was boring
KendraJXXX: yeah ok
KendraJXXX: so isnt half the other s--- you print
KendraJXXX: youd just rather let people bash me
Luzdedos1: not true, i have to make judgements
KendraJXXX: whatever luke.im sick of it all
KendraJXXX: you and everyone else on the net can f--- yourselves
KendraJXXX: you only like to print the bad luke
KendraJXXX: but when people actually defend me...you just happen to
leave that out
Luzdedos1: not true
KendraJXXX: well i have never seen you stick up for me, or print stuff
from people who do. It must be really fun for you to print mean things
about me.do you get off doin it?
KendraJXXX: all the chix in sopornos are ugly luke? f--- U Kendra is
this,Kendra is that... f--- U
KendraJXXX: you make me so angry
KendraJXXX: AND ALSO FYI : I dont know ms. alexander, but i do know
all of the others from pst and i think they are amongst the nicest people
i have met online
KendraJXXX: so if they say she has done the things shes done, they arent
lying.
KendraJXXX: and coming from someone who also used to frequent pst, i
think you can trust the majority here. and that would make brandy the
liar.
KendraJXXX: ok luke? or are you ignoring me now
Luzdedos1: i hear you
KendraJXXX: i know...i didnt even fit in your top 20 list ASSHOLE :P
[to roger pipe]
KendraJXXX: oops wrong im
KendraJXXX: and you can tell ms alexander to leave diablo , bt and everyone
else in pst alone....and everyone will be much happier
KendraJXXX: and why does that asshole imply that i must be "f---ing
craig" to get work?
KendraJXXX: believe it or not some people actually enjoy watching me
and enjoy talking to me and working with me
KendraJXXX: because i am very professional, very fiendly and business
minded
KendraJXXX: so you can tell him that
Luzdedos1: I like you a lot, i talk to you 20x more than any other porn
girl
KendraJXXX: i dont need to f--- to get work.sometimes i actually get
it on my own merits KendraJXXX: and because people like me
KendraJXXX: i know that may come as a surprise to some of your stupid
pathetic moron fans, but it happens to be true.
KendraJXXX: they really need to get a life and stop being involved in
mine,and until they become GOD they have no right to judge me
Luzdedos1: why do their accusations bother you?
KendraJXXX: i must say i agree with jenteal...most of the people who
spend all their pathetic lives and time on the web seem to be amongst
the meanest most negative people i know
KendraJXXX: their accusations bother me, because if you were to ask
anyone who knew me they would probably tell you i am one of the nicest
girls they know
KendraJXXX: i dont go out of my way to hurt people
Luzdedos1: why would you expect people to treat you fairly?
KendraJXXX: and i cant understand why they would go out of their way
to hurt me
KendraJXXX: why would i expect to be treated fairly? Because they dont
know me.and if they did, then they could form an opinion.i have never
done anything peronally to any of these people
KendraJXXX: and i treat people the way i expect to be treated
KendraJXXX: i dont knock somebody for the way they look
KendraJXXX: or their personal choices in life
KendraJXXX: i expect to be treated fairly because i am a human being
with emotions and I am 22 years old doing the best i can.And i treat
everybody else fairly.
KendraJXXX: until they have done wrong by me
KendraJXXX: i guess i just expect too much
Luzdedos1: you expect too much, particularly from porn fans, porn coarsens
people
KendraJXXX: i dont catogorize pornfan/pornstar/writer/etc
KendraJXXX: to me we are all just people makin a livin
KendraJXXX: i just wanna know why he assumes i have to be "f---in "someone
to get work Luzdedos1: dont expect so much
KendraJXXX: whats that supposed to mean?i should live my life a coldhearted
person who never expects much?why?so i never get disappointed?
KendraJXXX: NEWSFLASH:i dont want to live/feel/be like that
Luzdedos1: no, you should be skeptical of human nature, and treasure
the fine people you meet KendraJXXX: THe way you do? uggh
KendraJXXX: you really treasure your friends luke
KendraJXXX: youre just as bad as the rest
KendraJXXX: one minute your my friend, the next you allow these people
to trash me KendraJXXX: i have defended you many times
KendraJXXX: and its not even once in a while luke
KendraJXXX: its almost every f---ing day
Luzdedos1: i feel no obligation to defend or stand up for my friends
on my site, that is not its point or purpose
KendraJXXX: i gotta deal with this s--- from my "friend" EVERY DAY
KendraJXXX: friends stick up for eachother luke
KendraJXXX: and friends care for eachother ..they dont go out of their
way to hurt eachother Luzdedos1: friends do stick up for each other,
but in ways that count, my saying on my site that you are a cool person,
or you telling that to somebody who hates me, will make no difference.
KendraJXXX: well i am not allowed in the hustler building because of
my "friendship " with you. KendraJXXX: so yeah.it does make a f---ing
difference
Luzdedos1: sorry. you don't need to verbally stick up for me unless
you think it will make a difference...
KendraJXXX: well i did because thats the kind of person i am. i fight
for what i believe in luke KendraJXXX: and it did make a difference.im
sorry that you dont feel the same
Luzdedos1: that is good, we just have to use our brains on when to fight
and when to keep quiet...
KendraJXXX: WELL I AM SICK OF BEING TRASHED WHILE MY "FRIEND" f---ING
SITS BACK ON HIS ASS AND ACTUALLY PRINTS THE s--- HE KNOWS AINT TRUE
KendraJXXX: im not askin you for any favors out of friendship.i just
dont understand why you allow me to be hurt for the f---ing pathetic
morons who read your site
KendraJXXX: ive allowed my business relationships to be hurt for my
defense of our friendship KendraJXXX: you have some balls Luke F-rd
Luzdedos1: ok, let me think about things, i don't want to be hurting
you like this Luzdedos1: i am off to bed...
KendraJXXX: ok. goodnight
Joe Bosco writes: Luke, My web site, Before and After was recently added to your web site links page. I started Before & After a little over a year ago because of my disgust with the spiraling popularity of breast implants and my disappointment with the end result. It's dedicated to photos and commentary on celebs and porn stars before and after going under the knife. Your site has been instrumental in providing background information for me and I've been reading it pretty much since you started it.
I might add, getting the link established with the people at FANtastic Online was much more of a pain in the ass than necessary. Given the recent negative blurb on your site about them, I'm less surprised. If you'd like more info, I'll be glad to send you a transcript of the emails I've exchanged with them.
Luke: I want em! And you have a terrific site.
f---ed By Fantastic
Joe writes: Luke, Below is the transcript of the emails I exchanged with someone (I still don't know who) at FANtastic Online in my effort to have a link to my Before and After web site placed on the http://www.l-keford.com/links/frame_links.html page. Since the link did get added, I'm not complaining, it just seems to me that the people at FANtastic are sure hyper-sensitive! Please note that within the transcripts, I've changed any references from my real name to Joe Bosco, simply in order to give myself some privacy, should you decide to publish any of this and you're certainly welcome to do so, it you think it's newsworthy. (I'm not sure I do, but...)
My original email to FANtastic online: I'd very much like to have my web site, Before & After, added to the links on Luke F-rd's web site. Before and After is dedicated to celebrities and porn stars before and after breast implants. As far as I have been able to determine through rigorous searching, it is the ONLY site of its kind on the Internet. It's over a year old, has been very successful and attracts somewhere between 500 and 1000 visitors per day, which I believe is very good for a niche site. I have placed Luke's opening page banner in three predominant locations.
Thanks in advance for your time and attention. Joe Bosco Webmaster, Before & After
FANtastic Online replies: Would you be interested in rolling your site into FANtastic?
Joe: Since I have no idea what it means to roll my site into FANtastic Online, I visited their web site. It consisted of an attractive graphic explaining that they were starting a new multimedia publication, a form to enter my name and email address for more information and a link to another web site, www.xxxgen.com. None of this shed any light on what it would mean by "rolling my site into FANtastic," so I replied: What would that mean, "rolling" my site in FANtastic? I went to www.fantasticonline.com but didn't see anything there that enlightened me. Joe
FANtastic Online replied: Then forget it. Jerk
Joe: This, of course, pissed me off. Even owing to the typo where I said "in" instead of "into" there was nothing I said to warrant this reply. I hadn't done a damn thing except try to get a link to your site and for this, I get flamed? So I wrote back a pretty s---ty email for which I should probably be sorry, but I'm not:
"Excuse me? Just what the f--- did I do to deserve this little gem? Here's the way I see it and feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, if you have the 'nads. 1. I write you an honest, forthright email asking for a reciprocal link to l-keford.com. 2. You reply, asking if I'd be interested in "rolling my site" into FANtastic online. 3. Although I'm DEFINITELY interested in establishing symbiotic relationships with other quality web sites, since I don't know what the hell you mean by "rolling my site into FANtastic," I visit www.fantisticonline.com for enlightenment. Upon visiting your site, I find that there is a blurb there about a new multimedia publication you're starting, a form where I can fill in my name and email address to learn more about this new publication, and a link to www.xxxgen.com.
So I visit www.xxxgen.com and none of this tells me diddle f---ing squat about what you mean by me "rolling my site" into FANtastic online.
4. So I write you another email asking what it means to "roll my site" into FANtastic online. 5. You respond, "Then forget it. Jerk." I repeat: just what the f--- is that about? I didn't do s--- to you other than ask for clarification as to what you meant by rolling my site into FANtastic online and you treat me like some f---ing lamer for no reason? I'll be really curious to see if you've got the balls to explain this one. I did nothing and you acted like the f---ing Gestapo! Joe Bosco Webmaster, Before & After
Joe: Damn, now here I was sounding like Mike Albo or something, but it felt pretty good to get it off my chest. FANtastic Online's response was:
Luckily, my wife calmed me down and advised that perhaps I should take the higher ground, eat a little crow and ask one more time just what the hell was going on. After all, I wanted the link from your site and it didn't seem fair to jeopardize that for an argument over something they brought up in the first place.
I'm not sure what made me check, but during my normal morning visit to your site this AM, I checked the links page and lo and behold, there was Before & After. So ultimately, I accomplished my goal, getting links exchanged between your site and mine. BUT. I still don't have any idea what the hell he/she was talking about by "rolling" my site into FANtastic online. Oh well, guess it's a good lesson not to piss of the sleeping beast, even if you don't know he/she is a beast and you don't know that you're pissing them off. Speaking of things I don't know, I don't know exactly what your relationship with FANtastic Online is, other than they built your web site but if nothing else, this might give you some insight into their mind set. Don't know that I'd want them in my corner.
Luke: My relationship with FANtastic is so twisted and perverse, if I told you, you'd run screaming into the night.
Please Email Luke if you've been f---ed by FANtastic!
Craig Vasiloff writes: Read it - :) funny he doesn't want his name mentioned - he has done a good job of paraphrasing!! Guess we're not loved by all!! Oh well back to f---ing pornstars!
Rodger Jacobs has published the most powerful essay of his life: "Exhausted: The Dark Secrets of Johnny Wadd." Here are his first two paragraphs. The entire essay can be found in the November - December issue of Eye magazine. Check their website at www.eyemag.com:
"A soul-siphoning conveyer belt leading to nowhere" is how I described the adult film industry in a an essay written only a few days before accepting the job as writer and principal interviewer for Wadd. The ambitious documentary project, nearly two years in the making, was funded entirely by Russ Hampshire's porno monolith VCA Pictures and helmed by Captain Ahab incarnate Cass Paley, a cheerfully demented commander whose monomania would become the gargantuan task of interviewing every person on the face of the earth who ever encountered blue screen icon John C. Holmes in the flesh.
I signed on board Paley's version of the Pequod solely to escape drudge work on dry land, namely the sun-baked pavement of L.A.'s San Fernando Valley where the adult film industry flourishes and thrives in a series of drab, non-descript office buildings and warehouses tucked away on industrial side streets. I spent seven years trolling those murky waters for spare bits of coin, prostituting my writing talents on movies that no one ever sees for the plot, scribbling impossibly verbose dialogue for actors and actresses whose attention span is sorely compromised by the instructions on a microwave TV dinner. Setting sail with Cass Paley on his maddening journey meant not having to write porno screenplays for at least a few months. It made the voyage seem worthwhile.
Siffredi Unveils Dreamcast
Greenmeanie writes on RAME: I was just browsing through the Sega Europe Dreamcast site and came across this gem in an article about the "fever pitched" launch of the new Dreamcast console in Europe:
"In France, Rocco Siffredi unveiled Dreamcast to crowds at the Virgin Megastore on Paris’ Champs-Elysées. Eager customers scrambled against each other to purchase the evolutionary console. The winner of the SEGA Rally 2 head-to-head competition was awarded a specially-branded Dreamcast scooter and a VIP cocktail party was held for well-known singers, television presenters, and actors at the Virgin Café."
Is this a "it could only happen in France" thing (ala Jerry Lewis - gallic god) or is it time to revisit the "is porn turning mainstream" thread? Greenmeanie
Dirt on Fantastic!
WebSpy writes with the dirt on Luke's Sponsor: It's me again with more dirt on your employers!! Had a long talk with the new receptionist today (its amazing what they will tell you!!). As you know Fantastic is putting out a new adult biz magazine due on the stands December 6 1999. The magazine features a list of top 20 pornstars - apparently it was supposed to be a Roger Pipe list but Vasiloff vetoed that and went with a list of his own. Speaking of Vasiloff - he has been offered a position with a UK adult magazine to handle all editorial - does this means he will leave Fantastic? I'm looking into it!
I heard he is a big fan of the biz and would rather align himself with an existing company rather than deal with all the corporate politics drowning him now. He is supposed to be some creative whiz but is getting buried in the public deal the company is going through. Kendra Jade is the centerfold in the new issue - can't get anything out of them as to why she is so frequent in everything they do - I figured Vasiloff was f---ing her - secretary says no. Cover girl is hush hush - but they say it is someone obvious from the top 20 list. What's the scoop Luke? Do you have a job if the boss leaves? Are you having a threeway affair with Kendra and the boss? I'm still digging. Oh yeah - did hear that Vasiloff is happy there is no battle with AVN - he actually likes the magazine - tried to get dirt there but secretary said no way - he was apparently excited to see the mention on geneross.com a week ago.
<Mastrick> Hey Luke the central issue with respect to the 'credit card scam' story involves ethical business practices and fairness. Don't lose the scent in that respect
<Mastrick> Businesses that intend to deceive the public seldom survive the initial onslaught of legal challenges
<Mastrick> They have survivability flaws because their customers do not return
<Mastrick> I am very reluctant to do business with people who do not exchange value for monies
<Mastrick> Or attempt to hide the true price of the products or services that they provide
<Mastrick> I think that the average Joe who visits pay sites just wants value in exchange for his money
<Mastrick> He wants to see something he hasn't already seen before
<Mastrick> One does not expect to encounter questionable business practices with companies such as 'Vivtech'
<SteveHi> luke: do you know if vivid actually runs their site or is it handled through a third party like "atlas" ?
<l-keford> they run it
<SteveHi> i just wondered if you know that
<zoexxx> lol
<SteveHi> because Steve does sign the checks
<l-keford> thanks
<SteveHi> the chargebacks are pretty high too
<SteveHi> i have had $490 in chargebacks
<zoexxx> wow
<SteveHi> if you talk to serge again, ask him what his relationship is with "Pushrod" and rush4gold
<SteveHi> an unamed party cheated me out of $5500 earlier this year and refused to answer my emails and finally i complained to serge about it, it just so happeend that serge was best friends with this party
<SteveHi> luke: if its the same serge and i think it is, he also runs a site called the Good Bad and the Ugly which rates internet sponsers as far as them being loyal
<TyceBune> True, very true, but it beat the waves which were bad
<JimGunn> Luke- you investigating the internet now since no one in porn video will talk to you anymore?
<SteveHi> Luke, I agree, I think that your gonna lose alot of your audience talking about serge and ieg and stuff like that, 99% of your readers are not adult webmasters and dont know who the hell serge is
<TyceBune> Hey Luke, ever check the scene I shot with Kendra Jade for my Beach bunnies line?
<NARCISSISM [Bianca Trump]> LUKE
<BobBlec> hi Leu
<NARCISSISM> YOU f---IN MORON
<BobBlec> hey Jem!
<SteveHi> rut roh, bianca is speaking in caps
<SweetJem> hi Bob!
<SteveHi> luke you might wanna wake up and take note
<NARCISSISM> how can I ban BRANDY for PST when i am not an op?
<SteveHi> Anry Italian in the house
<NARCISSISM> ASSHOLE
<SteveHi> angry even
<RogTPipe> D, tell her I'll be there in a minute
<NARCISSISM> HOW COULD YOU PRINT THAT
<NARCISSISM> I cant ban people
<SteveHi> bianca: i think he was just quoting our next op brandy
<NARCISSISM> If i could i would ban you
*** Leu is now known as Killus
<Sultana^^> brandy is a cunt why you want to op her ?
<NARCISSISM> why quote some s--- you know isnt true
<Sultana^^> hehe
<NARCISSISM> SOMEONE GIVE ME OPS PLEASE
<SteveHi> if adam was here he would op you
<NARCISSISM> i banned someone
<SteveHi> hehe
<NARCISSISM> ha
<NARCISSISM> DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
<SteveHi> luke cant be kicked, he sends good traffic
<SteveHi> hahahahaha
* MadisonFan hides under the covers
<NARCISSISM [Bianca Trump]> f--- him
<MadisonFan> after yawning
<NARCISSISM> LUKE you are the biggest of big idiots
<NARCISSISM> you make me sick
*** Killus is now known as iKillus
<SteveHi> l-keford has been idle 16mins 2secs, signed on Fri Oct 29 00:55:04
<SteveHi> slow down bt
<SteveHi> wait till he gets back
<J0HNG0TTI> lol
<NARCISSISM> SPEAK you coward
<SteveHi> then you can bite his head off
<SteveHi> hehe
<Mastrick> What
<NARCISSISM [Bianca Trump]> stop logging and speak
<Mastrick> What's the matter with Bianca?
<MadisonFan> haha
<SteveHi> Luke might be enjoying his kosher
<NARCISSISM> he posted that I banned Brandy
<SteveHi> he quoted what brandy said
<NARCISSISM> I have no f---ing athority to ban anyone
<NARCISSISM> and he knows that
<Mastrick> Hey Bianca you gonna beat him in the streets like Albo says he's gonna do?
<NARCISSISM> no
<NARCISSISM> why quote and or print what he knows isnt true
<Mastrick> Has me wondering what the thing is between Luke and Italian-Americans
<l-keford> :)
<MadisonFan> albo is growing into a bigger pussy everyday, he better put up or shut up
<iKillus> Bianca is that you ?
<iKillus> Hi darlin :)
<NARCISSISM> LUKE
<SteveHi> ooh lord
<NARCISSISM> you asshiole
<NARCISSISM> speak
<SteveHi> killus, i dont think bianca is in a seducing mood right now
<SteveHi> hehehe
<iKillus> Hey Luke dood ol buddy :)
<NARCISSISM> why do you print s--- you know isnt true?
<iKillus> Naw ive never wanted net sex
<NARCISSISM> If I was an OP i would kick you
<NARCISSISM> TAKE THAT DOWN NOW
<Mastrick> I thought you did that last night Bianca
<l-keford> what r u talking about?
<NARCISSISM> hello
<l-keford> he ykillus
<SteveHi> start all over bt, he just got back
<NARCISSISM> that I BANNED BRANDY
<SteveHi> watch this :)
<NARCISSISM> she wrote that to you and you printed it
*** VideoEd sets mode: +v l-keford
<l-keford> who is narc?
*** VideoEd sets mode: -vv J0HNG0TTI JimGunn
<Mastrick> Now I simply must see that which has put a bee in Bianca's bonnett
<JimGunn> Luke's not a pussy- he's proved that by insulting dangerous people, and knowingly printing lies regularly. The fact that he's still walking means that some of the blowhards in this biz are not as tough as they let on.
<SteveHi> yeah baby
<SteveHi> fight it out :)
<NARCISSISM> lol
<Mastrick> LAAAAADIES AND GENTLEMAN.....
<Mastrick> Innnnnn the Blue Corner,
<NARCISSISM> I was allowed to participate for quite a while when BT was away, but as soon as she came back she put up a ban and everyone was afraid to question it.
<SteveHi> luke your turn
<l-keford> who is narc?
<NARCISSISM> she pput me on ban
<NARCISSISM> ITS ME YOU ASS
*** NARCISSISM is now known as TRUMP
<SteveHi> narccissim is the Italian Princess of Porn
<Mastrick> Weighing in at one-hundred twenty pounds, from The City of Brotherly Love,
<l-keford> oh bianca trump
<TRUMP> remeber you posted on your site I had Narcassism
<l-keford> hey bt, i took off brandy's rant last night and i almost never take anything off
<Mastrick> BIAAAAANCA TRUMP.....Trump.
<l-keford> I did it twice for you
<TRUMP> I was allowed to participate for quite a while when BT was away, but as soon as she came back she put up a ban and everyone was afraid to question it.
<TRUMP> I was allowed to participate for quite a while when BT was away, but as soon as she came back she put up a ban and everyone was afraid to question it.
<Mastrick> AAAAAND in the Red Corner...
<TRUMP> this is a lie
<TRUMP> TAKE IT OFF
<TRUMP> I was allowed to participate for quite a while when BT was away, but as soon as she came back she put up a ban and everyone was afraid to question it.
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<TRUMP> i have no athpority to ban anyone
<TRUMP> everyone knows that
<SteveHi> luke: did you quote brandy or did you make that opinion yourself?
<l-keford> i qutoed brandy
<SteveHi> thats the way i read it too
<SteveHi> so bascially luke printed a lie that brandy told
<RogTPipe> Is this the best thing we have to talk and worry about?
<J0HNG0TTI> the chat is lorded over by "Diablo", BT's partner in social crimes
<iKillus> Luke prints everything and thats to his credit.He came into power in the cesspoo the ol fashion way he took it !!!!!
<iKillus> Now he must be reckoned with cuz he has the ear of a lot of folks
<Mastrick> My Dad always took me to private quarters when it was time for a whuppin'
<SteveHi> luke has a fan :)
<iKillus> I aint his fan ed
<Mastrick> Hey Bianca would you do Luke with a strap-on?
<_Kadath_> I am a fan of his column, too. I enjoy reading all the stuff about his disfunctional friends like "Nice Jewish Girl"...
<Mastrick> Dunno if I'd want to see that one though
<iKillus> I'm his friend and i dont agree with him half the time
*** VideoEd changes topic to '<Mastrick> Hey Bianca would you do Luke with a strap-on?
<iKillus> Sometimes he pisses me off.
<SteveHi> i seen luke post a pic of his ass once and that was too much for me
<l-keford> :)
<JimGunn> Please Kadath don't encourage him...Luke's a guy with a lot of potential- occaisionally insightful, mostly hogwash.
<RogTPipe> Luke posted pictures of me, for that alone he should be hated
<TRUMP> I AM OTTA HERE
<iKillus> That union he finds with the jesus nazis is very very disturbing to me .
<MadisonFan> autoresponse to word "luke" - :)
<SteveHi> goodbye miss trump
<TRUMP> this is beyond redicupous
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<SteveHi> redicupous?
<MadisonFan> haha
<SteveHi> what the f--- is that?
<_Kadath_> I'm serious. I like that stuff. Most of the porn-gossip bores me to tears...
<iKillus> Now i am a Rog T Pipe fan
<SteveHi> mastrick, redicupous?
<JimGunn> Kadath why would you want to read fiction???????????
<iKillus> LOL i didnt look at the pics of Lukes Ass :)
<_Kadath_> Who cares if Brandy Alexandre hates Bianca Trump?
<JimGunn> Fiction nmasquerading as truth is much worse than no information at all.
<_Kadath_> I could read Gene Ross for that.
<RogTPipe> Roger sucks
<JimGunn> Kadath are you in the biz?
<SteveHi> yeah rog sells out
<_Kadath_> No.
<iKillus> Rogs the best MuthaF-in reviewre in porndom!!!!
<_Kadath_> I'm just a casual consumer
<RogTPipe> No Rog gets fired cuz he won't sell out :-)
<JimGunn> Then you dont have a clue as to what is true if I may be so bold
<SteveHi> i still wanna know what redicupous is
<RogTPipe> Killius, I thank you, but Riley is the best mother f---ing reviewer in porn
<_Kadath_> When did I say anything about what was true?
<SteveHi> i have never seen that word before...any idea jem?
<SteveHi> i dont even know what she meant to say
<MadisonFan> hehe
<MadisonFan> ha
<SweetJem> hehehehe
<JimGunn> I mistook your sentence about Gene...
<RogTPipe> Sounds like a sexually transmitted disease
<iKillus> Rog really ? well you the only porn reviewer ive ever read :)
<SteveHi> lets see if yahoo.com knows
<SweetJem> I try to ignore her.....D told me to be nice
<SteveHi> Sorry, no matches were found containing redicupous
<MadisonFan> hehe
<SteveHi> lets try alta vista
<_Kadath_> I meant to say I could read Gene Ross for porn industry gossip, JimGunn
<SteveHi> AltaVista found no document matching your query.
<_Kadath_> Sorry if I was unclear.
<l-keford> :)
<JimGunn> Anyway, Luke makes up a lot of s---...that's the point
<JimGunn> No problem Kadath.
<SteveHi> goto.com Sorry, no matching pages were found.
<MadisonFan> isnt riley the one who messes up all the girls names?
<iKillus> let them both hang out here and enjoy there dialog .
<RogTPipe> Oh great, I'm the best only because you've never read anyone else
<JimGunn> Riley is hysterical
<SweetJem> how come all Luke does it :)
<JimGunn> Driest humor out there
<SweetJem> it=is
<l-keford> :)
<RogTPipe> Riley doesn't give a s--- what he writes or who he offends. That takes massive nads
<MadisonFan> luke
<gunth> maybe it was itlalian
<JimGunn> Yeah, he and Luke have balls even if much of their theory is proposterous
<SteveHi> i think the word was ridiculous
<SweetJem> I think so too Ed
<SteveHi> that "p" threw me off
<SteveHi> diablo had to set me straight
<SweetJem> heheh
<SteveHi> the "e" confused me too
<iKillus> i kinda dont like brandy and i do like BT but i would not keep her from open dialog .
<MadisonFan> oh ok, i like the former better
<iKillus> i think most of you guys have a beef with brandy cuz she aint a viable piece of ass anymore :)
<SteveHi> brandy is sexy
<SteveHi> :-)
<SweetJem> gee I always thought it was thier lack of intelligents
<gunth> one night I would like to see the two of them on here with no one interfearing. It could get interesting
<Diablo1504> was she ever killus?
<MadisonFan> ill f--- brandy, i dont care
<MadisonFan> sorry Jem
<SweetJem> ewwwwwwwww
<Diablo1504> she looked like a blonde howard stern in her prime
<SweetJem> you stepped over Mad
<SteveHi> madfan, your like adam, you will f--- sheep or anything else
<SweetJem> baaaaaaaaa
<MadisonFan> will a sheep yap as much as bianca?
<SweetJem> hehe so funny
<SteveHi> i think adam has a new sheep now, he named her phyllisha anne
<SweetJem> might pee on you
<iKillus> brandy angers me.but i'm willing to hear her out...Unfortunatly ive no power to unban her
<SteveHi> hey another luke fan
<mnc_tech> my inspiration...
<SteveHi> luke your just so popular these days
<gunth> how long do u think it will take howard stern to brag about screwing a porn star?
<SteveHi> maybe you should run for mayor
* mnc_tech gives luke a pound from one jew to a fake jew
<MadisonFan> whoops
<J0HNG0TTI> brandy is just a big negative thats all
<J0HNG0TTI> too much whining and moaning
<SteveHi> luke: didnt a porner hit you once? or was that a rumor?
<iKillus> Ed you Luke and Rog should be the best of allys you started from the outside and now your on a quick inside track and your self made.
<MadisonFan> didnt luke get hit at the vsda?
<J0HNG0TTI> nobody here needs to hear her negative s---
<SweetJem> doesnt Luke talk?
* VideoEd is hardly a Rog or Luke
<MadisonFan> luke is a machine
<SteveHi> Luke is away having phonesex with Juli Ashton
<J0HNG0TTI> luke is logging
<l-keford> :)
<SteveHi> there he is
<SteveHi> luke: didnt a porner hit you once? or was that a rumor?
<SteveHi> i thought i read that
<RogTPipe> I'm no one, just ask around
<l-keford> mark star porn journalist punched me
<iKillus> luke has done more to bring porn main stream than the industry has been able to accomplish in 2 decades
<SteveHi> who does he work for luke?
<J0HNG0TTI> ikillus: ya think?
<MadisonFan> hmmm
<JimGunn> iKillus, are you joking???????
<l-keford> erotic x film guide
<JimGunn> How how Luke helped bring porn mainstream
<BobBlec> Mad: hey, that's *my* line! ;)
<l-keford> :)
<mnc_tech> yo someone tell me some good movies with kobe tai
* VideoEd thinks that killus wants to have luke's baby
<JimGunn> What a vague concept anyway.
<MadisonFan> howard stern did more in one year than luke has ever done
<J0HNG0TTI> lol
<iKillus> gotti Damn right he has .luke has you doods mentioned in circles that you were never mentioned in the past.
<J0HNG0TTI> howard does more in one show
<gunth> When I first started going on line I kept running across Luke's name, but in 2 years I still have not been able to figure out if he s good or not
<Diablo1504> i think ikillus is just trying to make sure he ends up on lukes site
<XTacyAVS> Luke, whats going on in Colts Neck?
<J0HNG0TTI> i dont care to be mentioned in anyones circles
<RogTPipe> Every time I end up on Luke's site, I have to go and explain the context of the conversation
* mnc_tech needs to know a few kobe tai titles
<XTacyAVS> are they going after Serge next?
<SteveHi> yeah diablo: he wants his name up in lights so he can show his friends :)
<_Kadath_> Then shouldn't iKillus be insulting him?
<JimGunn> For all his thousands of hits, most people will never see l-keford.com
<JimGunn> Or any porn site for that matter
<XTacyAVS> my buddy in Germany can't get to l-keford.com , says the DNS is f---ed
<iKillus> Naw Howard is a freak show and trust me he wont mix with you folks either he is pimping all of you for shoch value
<JimGunn> Howard Stern has done a lot if you wanna measure widespread impact on non-porn fans.
<MadisonFan> i wanna have Luke F-rds baby
<iKillus> shock
<mnc_tech> howard is a f---ing hero
<mnc_tech> so don't even try to hate
<J0HNG0TTI> howard=lord
<JimGunn> IKillus- millions of people watch Howard on tv. There's no comparison.
<JimGunn> Please.
<SteveHi> i dont see how can you can compare l-keford and howard stern
<BobBlec> howard never f---s, though
<mnc_tech> i could give a s--- if howard f---s
<mnc_tech> WHY THE HELL DO YOU CARE HOW MUCH SOMEONE ELSE IS f---ING?
<gunth> he will now that he is divorced
<JimGunn> separated gunth.
<mnc_tech> oh wait sorry
<BobBlec> Ed: well, they're both Jewish
<MadisonFan> we were talking about someone bringing porn to mainstream, that was the point
<SteveHi> thats about all they have in common
<mnc_tech> DUH
<J0HNG0TTI> nobody needs to know about the inner workings of peoples sex lives like luke reports
<J0HNG0TTI> howard=1/2 jew
<RogTPipe> f--- Howard Stern
<J0HNG0TTI> luke=non jew
<mnc_tech> if his mother's jewish than he's full jew
<iKillus> Howard is a ruthless vampire and would put a bulett in yo werewolf heart for his gain.
<MadisonFan> iKillus=nice jewish girl? hehe
<J0HNG0TTI> lol
<MadisonFan> iKillus- whats yourpoint?
<J0HNG0TTI> howard is a good man
<SteveHi> killus: you are saying that luke is looking out for the good of the porn industry?
<l-keford> :)
<mnc_tech> face it y'all...howard's gonna be eating pussy for breakfast, lunch and dinner
<RogTPipe> Howard is a douche bag
<iKillus> stern is fo sure A real jew :) we cant even see his other half
<Diablo1504> who cares if hes a jew?
<MadisonFan> ruh roh
<Diablo1504> what does being a jew have to do with anything?
<SteveHi> you have to respect howard that when he is off the air he is as normal as anybody else and doesnt get in trouble like so many of the other millionaires
<J0HNG0TTI> someone said luke and howard have it in common
<BobBlec> Ed: this is true
<RogTPipe> He has a miserable life in public
<J0HNG0TTI> he has no life
<SteveHi> thats what he is paid to do rog: he plays his character
<RogTPipe> 50% of the people hate him and think he's scum and his fan base are the kind of total dips---s that no one wants to even speak to
<gunth> he can draw the line between his two lives
<SteveHi> you dont like his character but thats not him
<RogTPipe> He can't enjoy that attention
<SteveHi> howard stern is like the wrestler everyone loves to hate
<gunth> I didn't like him till I saw the movie
<iKillus> hel no luke is pimping porn and it's all good cuz it's a game of who's f---in who
<SteveHi> i dont see the comparision with luke though
<iKillus> Yea rog !!!!
<SteveHi> who cares who is f---ing who
<J0HNG0TTI> how is he "pimpin" porn?
<SteveHi> they all f--- each other and it doesnt matter
<gunth> his radio and TV show are dumb, except when he talks about pornstars
<SteveHi> i think its very dumb when he does talk about pornstars
<SteveHi> howard knows nothing about pornstars
<_Kadath_> Yes... It doesn't matter. Who cares? Let's all talk about Pokemon now.
<J0HNG0TTI> howard isnt so funny, his characters are the ones that are funny
<SteveHi> he asked juli ashton if she worked with guys, how is that for research
<iKillus> Ed how can you say Stern is normal ? that man is f---in sick
<SteveHi> he plays the part
<J0HNG0TTI> he does it well
<SteveHi> howard is just as normal as anyone else
<J0HNG0TTI> yep
<MadisonFan> how is stern sick?
<J0HNG0TTI> he isnt
<SteveHi> we can talk about stern anytime, luke is here now though
<SteveHi> i watch stern once every 6 months but i dont hate him
<RogTPipe> No, sick is an enema video
<iKillus> i disagree that is sterns character he is a cold hearted ruthless dood.
<_Kadath_> Pokemon sounds like a great name for a gay porn star. Can't you see it?
<J0HNG0TTI> lol
<SteveHi> alot of people have said luke is cold hearted and ruthless
<iKillus> Luke earns his daily bread from porn.like a pimp breaks bread over a ho's ass.
<SteveHi> what a wonderful comparison there
<gunth> goodnight everyone, class in 5 hours
<SteveHi> i earn my daily bread from porn but i never thought of it like that
<JimGunn> RogTPipe, Howard has too many fans for you to dismiss them in that fashion.
<The^Bad^Seed> thx
<JimGunn> I include mysef as one.
<SweetJem> wb sexy
<_Kadath_> Hmm... I've just realized that no one wants to talk about Pokemon. Wait a minute! This is #!!!!!!pornstar-trading, not #!!!!!!pokemon-trading. My mistake. Sorry. Off to find the right channel now.
<The^Bad^Seed> sterns fan base is widely varied, including my mother
<iKillus> This f---in trash kid from the trailer park tried to rip my little boys poke man cards today.An i wanna kick his ass :)
<_Kadath_> Night
<The^Bad^Seed> thx Jem
<RogTPipe> Jim, ever been to an appearance? I stand by my generalization
<The^Bad^Seed> ill assume thats me
<JimGunn> Maybe you are just too sensitive or just dion't enjoy that type of humor.
<SteveHi> Howard is like Jerry Springer, good for a laugh but not worth an addiction
<Diablo1504> Rog your poll is big time, i got spam to go vote on it
<SweetJem> hehe yes
<RogTPipe> I have to laugh when you say IM too sensitive
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<JimGunn> I love Howard I listen and watch tv all the time
<SteveHi> diablo must have been delaney :)
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<Diablo1504> no it wasnt Ed
<RogTPipe> Great Jim, thats your taste and you're welcome to it.
<Diablo1504> shes not on the poll
<SteveHi> howard, national inquirer, springer and Luke F-rd are trash media
<RogTPipe> I got that email too D :-)
<MadisonFan> very true Ed
<SteveHi> i actually got double spam from DD :)
<JimGunn> I'd hardly lump Howard with the rest of all that.
<JimGunn> He's got a lot of staying power.
<MadisonFan> and jim gray
<iKillus> luke is becoming more jaded daily and will indeed become what he reports on so much in due time. Maybe next year this time he'll have no use for a decent woman.
<MadisonFan> hehe
<RogTPipe> LCD entertainment
<SteveHi> howard has that shock affect
<SteveHi> people watch him to see what he will say
<JimGunn> He's just sidesplittingly funny.
<RogTPipe> Now THAT is where he is like Luke
<RogTPipe> Everyone reads just to see what he'll say next
<MadisonFan> i read luke waiting for his suicide, no offense luke
<SteveHi> Reading l-keford.com is like driving by a car wreck, you know you shouldnt look but you find yourself looking anyway just to see what might be there
<l-keford> :)
<l-keford> lol
<JimGunn> But at least the car wreck is genuine....
<Mastrick> Yeah, but sometime's it's like driving by roadkill too
<mnc_tech> i wish i had my name mentioned on luke's site
<mnc_tech> that would be a f---ing honor
<iKillus> Howard has the backing of one of the most powerful media entitys in the world.if not for that he would have been s--- caned long ago.
<l-keford> jew media
<mnc_tech> hey y'all...
<mnc_tech> don't f--- with jews
<l-keford> :)
<SteveHi> yeah howard has been lucky, anybody else would have been pulled off the air years ago
<JimGunn> If Jew media makes me laugh I say long live Jew media
<MadisonFan> as long as stern has the ratings, he stays unless he decides to go
<JimGunn> !
<J0HNG0TTI> jew media?
<iKillus> luke i didnt say that ;)
<l-keford> :)
<SteveHi> mnc_tech: sounds like a football team: dont f--- with the jews
<mnc_tech> don't f--- with jews in any situation
<mnc_tech> cause jews are f---ing indestructible
<MadisonFan> hmmmm
<JimGunn> There's not enough Jews running things- even i can see that and I'm goy.
<J0HNG0TTI> they have proven over 2000 years
<JimGunn> Just like you Luke, he he..
<iKillus> Any white anglo saxon protestant would have been killed off cuz there so shame based. except the po ones that go on springer:)
<SteveHi> jews needed a little help in WW2
<mnc_tech> you 'see that' cause you ARE a goy
<SteveHi> america is always there to help the underdog
<mnc_tech> jews don't look at each other and go "we run things! oy vey!"
<J0HNG0TTI> howard makes people money.
<MadisonFan> thats the name of the game
<mnc_tech> jews have power cause they worked hard
<JimGunn> I'm just being silly...really though Luke I think you got some kinda mental obsession with Jews.
<mnc_tech> not cause they got s--- handed to them
<J0HNG0TTI> people feed their kids off the profits sterns show makes
<JimGunn> Howard makes peopl laugh- and his rado show and tv show are free!
<J0HNG0TTI> he is a corporation like any other
<JimGunn> Can't beat the entertainment value!
<mnc_tech> hey y'all
<SteveHi> i bet we all read l-keford.com tomorrow to see how famous we are
<RogTPipe> Isn't it about time we talked about racism in porn now
<iKillus> people feed children off gapping assholes of post pubecent girlies too.
<SteveHi> i might have to change my nickname
* mnc_tech has an idea for a porno movie
* mnc_tech thinks someone should do a movie called 'the second cumming of christ'
<SweetJem> hey is it true howard pays for boob jobs and such?
<JimGunn> Yeah, but Howard is free to the end user
<SteveHi> yeah jem, he gave away a boobjob to a girl
<SweetJem> hmmmm
<SteveHi> they had a contest...pretty stupid
<MadisonFan> dont do it Jem
<JimGunn> That's what I mean by a great value- if you have a radio and cable you can laugh yiour ass off every day for hours.
<SteveHi> you wouldnt win jem
<SweetJem> thanks Ed
<SteveHi> these girls had sad stories about why they needed boob jobs
<iKillus> I really really like India Damn !!!!! she is sveltlike a cat :)
<J0HNG0TTI> stern breaks product
<SteveHi> most of them just told lies
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<J0HNG0TTI> he single handedly broke snapple
<SweetJem> I know how to lie :))
*** jewkid is now known as JewKidChai
<JimGunn> I'm with you all the way JG...I think Howard is the funiest mf alive.
<J0HNG0TTI> did anyone see my mynx flood?
*** MadisonFan is now known as l-kefordsConscience
<J0HNG0TTI> i think he just wants to be with his wife
<iKillus> Naw he does not he is stuck with his wife :)
<MadisonFan> he seperated from his wife
<J0HNG0TTI> i know
<MadisonFan> talking to him
<BobBlec> hmmmm...
<MadisonFan> Bob ponders
<iKillus> I dont like the man cuz he's a sick racist born of a generation removed from the holocust.f--- him with a broken bottle.
<J0HNG0TTI> do you consider howard a rascist?
<MadisonFan> i dont
<RogTPipe> I think he plays off racist humor, but I dont think he is a racist
<J0HNG0TTI> i dont either
<JewKidChai> what are some good leanni lei movies?
<SteveHi> XXX writes about PST: these doods are a pack of raincoaters who have these virtual relationships with a few porn girls
<SteveHi> and some are real bleedin assholes.
<iKillus> Look genocide begins with ugly words sterotyping
<SteveHi> somehow i bet we banned that guy for #kiddieporn
<MadisonFan> he makes fun of everyone equally, its a schtick
<J0HNG0TTI> did anyone see event horizon?
<J0HNG0TTI> who is xxx?
<BobBlec> hmmmmm...
<SteveHi> only luke knows
<J0HNG0TTI> hmmm
* VideoEd doesnt own a raincoat :)
<J0HNG0TTI> i dont own a raincoat...
<MadisonFan> hehe
<iKillus> Ed being the exception ;
<MadisonFan> i dont even know what the term raincoater means
<J0HNG0TTI> virtual relationships?
<Diablo1504> XXX is Squishboy
<SteveHi> probably so diablo
<J0HNG0TTI> banned?
<MadisonFan> luke only gets disenchanted exiled deep thraots
<SteveHi> somone who does form a virtual relationship with a pornstar does need help i agree
<J0HNG0TTI> got to put on my coat
<SteveHi> luke: if you see gwen summers around town, tell her i love her
<Diablo1504> i love jewel valmont
<iKillus> has luke started posting chat from this # on his site allready ?
<SteveHi> killus, usually takes 12 hours
<SteveHi> however luke is getting pretty good at cutting and pasting
<MadisonFan> getting your name on lukes site wont get you laid, i tried
<SteveHi> hehehe
<SweetJem> when did u try?
<JewKidChai> hey tell me something
<MadisonFan> damn Jem, watching me like a hawk
<SteveHi> diablo says getting your real name posted on luke's site doesnt even work
XXX writes about PST: these doods are a pack of raincoaters who have these virtual relationships with a few porn girls and some are real bleedin assholes.
Judd: what up my main negro
Judd: you will be very famous
Luzdedos1: how?
Judd: 10,000 man anal gangbang.
Judd: I think you would be perfect
Judd: With that cute little accent
Judd: it would be the biggest gay anal gangbang in internet history.
we'll have midgets and freaks putting all kinds of things up your ass.
Judd: I think you should bring it up on the site as I might take on
another producer.
Judd: Hey, you could make, oh twenty maybe thirty dollars.
Judd: The key is to have on site high colonic machines to dump the blood
and semen from your asspipes and colon. Otherwise, your eyes might pop
out.
Judd: nice, no?
Judd: Adn we could do a mall tour, where you are bent over with a target
on you ass and anyone can come and mount up as long as they open a new
AOL account. I know it is perfect for AOL. Judd: And there is tons of
merchanidsing... lil' lukey assf--- dolls, lube, vibrating fists, a
line of B/D gear made especially for midgets, auto-felching ass cleaning
cum suck pump, and more!
Judd: I can probably get George Bush to snort coke off your ass as well.
BrandyAlx1: Why are you suddenly taking things down just because Bianca
told you to?
Luzdedos1: ok, it gets tiring..that's why, hope you are ok..
BrandyAlx1: Scary day in cyberville when Luke takes the truth down.
BrandyAlx1: Well, don't let the liar have the last word.
BrandyAlx1: You seem to be slipping into that "I like seeing Brandy
slandered" thing.
Luzdedos1: nope, just winding up this feud with bt
BrandyAlx1: Well, wind it up with the truthful statements. It was her
and the only reason she didn't ban you was so she could continue to
say she had no authority. Christ, the chat room wasn't empty at the
time. There's at least a dozen people who know it was her, and even
her buddy Diablo said so. BrandyAlx1: You want to end a fued, confront
someone with the facts.
BrandyAlx1: I'm just going to have to go back to not feeding you anything
if you're going to kow-tow to BT's demands just so you can collect fodder
from their chat. You KNOW that you won't be allowed in if you come out
on my side by posting the evidence that proves she's a liar.
Friday, noon:
<skinutz> i was just on your web site l-keford
<l-keford> and u loved it?
<skinutz> but of course
<l-keford> it wasn't too jewish?
<skinutz> LMAO...not that I could tell
<Diablo^> Jenteal, Luke is silent but deadly
<Diablo^> hehe
<JenT> it is hard tracking down the theifs
<JenT> who steal the pics
<skinutz> do you have people keeping eyes on it for you? Or do you go by word of mouth?
<Diablo^> yep
<skinutz> and yes it is, its easy to alter a picture
<skinutz> take any copyright info off
<JenT> people watch out for me, and I search about once every two months
<skinutz> catch anyone?
<Diablo^> You ever find out who hacked your site?
<JenT> nope
<JenT> I send people letters from my attorney all the time and they remove the photos
<JenT> or my name from the metatags
<Diablo^> What about fan sites devoted to you?
<skinutz> you guys are in a tough business, that must be a real pain in the ass watching your back like that
<JenT> I dont have any that I know of
<l-keford> :) hi Jenteal
<Diablo^> im sure there has to be some
<JenT> it can be expensive
<JenT> Hiya Luke
<l-keford> l-keford.com is a fan site of jenteal
<skinutz> I can see that. Do you have a firewall or linux box protecting your site?
<JenT> it certainly isn't a Jenteal bashiong site
<JenT> bashing
<JenT> hehe
<l-keford> :)
<skinutz> there is also a club set up for you in yahoo
<Diablo^> http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/jenteal
<JenT> I noticed, I posted there once
<skinutz> see, you have fans and fans sites :-)
<JenT> It benifits me that my site is the only site on Jenteal
<Diablo^> Nikki Dial should have a site, she could make tons off it
<JenT> She asked me to do one for her, but beleive it or not it would not be profitable for me
<zoexxx> hi again
<Diablo^> Why is that?
<JenT> my typing sucks today, jeesh
<Diablo^> Tell her I'd do it for her free of charge.
<JenT> she is a dying name. She hasnt made movies since before I was in the business five years ago and her name on the circut is not a popular one
<JenT> she isnt going anywhere in the business anymore because she is no longer in it
<zoexxx> who?
<Diablo^> She has 2 newsgroups devoted to her
<skinutz> hi zoexxx
<zoexxx> hi
<Diablo^> 3 yahoo clubs, 1 has over 1500 people
<zoexxx> who are we talking about
<Diablo^> Nikki Dial
<JenT> yes, and she is a great girl (and beautifull)
<zoexxx> ahhhhh
<Diablo^> she have a computer?
<JenT> but she wont make me enough money on a web site because she is sort of a has been
<JenT> I think so diablo
<JenT> I already run sites for two girls that dont make movies anymore wills tick with running Janines, Kobe and Dyannas
<JenT> I would love to do a scene with her though
<zoexxx> what does she want you to do, jen?
<JenT> who?
<JenT> Nikki?
<zoexxx> nikki
<JenT> she doesnt want me to do anything. A while ago we talked about doing a site for her
<JenT> I think she is focused on her personal life. She is in school and rarely dances anymore
<JenT> she is only a year or two older than I am
<Diablo^> sweet sweet nikki
<zoexxx> i see
<JenT> Diablo is smitten, hehe
<Diablo^> a few months ago she was saying she was gonna do a new video, but i guess the talks with vivid fell through
<JenT> You guys going to CES this year?
<Mastrick> Hey Jen you're not using Serge are you?
<JenT> maybe she will, I havent talked to her in a while
<JenT> it will probably be G/G
<Mastrick> Dunno if you've seen all the stuff on Lukee's site
<JenT> serge?
<zoexxx> they better lol
<JenT> havent read most ofit, why?
<JenT> I have three pc's and I think I need another
<Mastrick> Hey Jen you were in a new Adam&Eve that hit the streets yesterday. It was all comp footage though
<JenT> I dont know anything about that, havent seen it
<Mastrick> Sly foxes packaged it up as a new movie
<JenT> sorry if I am lagging, I am writing thank you notes
<Mastrick> Ultimate Pictures I think
<JenT> I only ever did two scenes for them
<Mastrick> It was a scene that you did prior to your contract with Vivid I think
<JenT> I was under contract with them for three months to only work with girls...they paid me a ton of money and used me in two scenes
<Mastrick> You at home or at the office/
<JenT> me? I am at my office
<Mastrick> Kendra Jade is on IM if anyone wants to talk to her
<skinutz> whats here screen name
<Mastrick> KendraJXXX
<Diablo^> Mast
<Diablo^> shes not gonna like you doing that dude
<Diablo^> hehe
<Mastrick> I sent Steve Hirsch a letter inviting him here once
<Mastrick> He prolly wouldn't like me now 'cause of all the Vivitech s---
<Mastrick> Hirsch needs to lose that webmaster and his unethical business practices
<JenT> it is not Steve, he probably doesnt even know about it
<Mastrick> That's what I think too
<skinutz> diablo - good point...my bad
<Mastrick> Everything I've heard indicates that Hirsch is a fair and ethical business man
<JenT> Steve is not a theif, why would he rip people off? He has a strong business going
<JenT> it is someone under him
<JenT> he is mastrick
<Mastrick> But when you visit Vivid's site you have to type in a credit card number. The page explicitly said 'your credit card will not be billed'
<JenT> he has been prolific in helping me with The ADult Star Network
<Mastrick> then all of a sudden these $49 charges started appearing on my statements
<JenT> it is the oldest web trick in the book
<Mastrick> Like I was saying he needs to fire the webmaster
<l-keford> how many website do you operate jenteal and which ones?
<JenT> My own, Janines merchandise site, Dyanna Laurens site, and we are starting Kobe Tai's and Raylenes
<JenT> we ship all the orders from all the sites here out ofmyoffice and all the girls sign the merchandise to the orderer personally
<Mastrick> Damn Jen that sounds like a bourgening business to me
<JenT> I am hoping
<JenT> Newsweek did a story on me
<JenT> now if only i could learn to type, hehe
<Mastrick> Link 'em all up and you've got quite a net
<JenT> They are linked at www.adultstarnetwork.com, but the site isn't finished yet
<JenT> sept 20, 1999 titles How The Internet Is Changing America
<Mastrick> She was actually an interesting person to talk to in person
<skinutz> she seems like she haas quite a bit of business sense
<Mastrick> She talked in somewhat of a breathy, sultry voice
<Diablo^> 3 most likely stars to show up next are Alana Evans, Tiffany Mynx, and Van Dammage
<Darth_Whack> i wish I could have talked to her, but this goddamned lag SUCKS
<Mastrick> The two worst jobs in the world are Maytag repairman and Jenteal's dentist
<Mastrick> She has perfect teeth
<Mastrick> I'd say that she has the whitest teeth I've ever come across, but that wouldn't be true
Jew: good shabbos luke
Jew: i have two rabbinical students in my office and they don't believe
that jews are in the porn biz Jew: what should i tell them?
Luzdedos1: give them my #
Jew: thanks, i will
Jew: they come to me on fridays to help me pray
Jew: would you like them to visit you
Jew: they bring the tefilin and everything
Jew: they guys had to get back to the yeshiva - sundown is coming earlier
and earlier
<LordBuckley> I've been following your site for the last few weeks...I'm new to it...I think it's a riot...and rather brave.
<l-keford> thanks, not too jewish?
<MadisonFan> hehe
<LordBuckley> Nah...some of my best friends...
<Darth_Whack> I personally think that it is a bit too jewish, Luke..not that I have anything against Jews, but people wanna read about porn
<l-keford> thanks
<Darth_Whack> However, I really do like all the photos you have, and the star profiles
<LordBuckley> I kind of like the tortured soul aspect...
<LordBuckley> But then we're all somewhat perverse I guess...
<LordBuckley> In some respects...the site is a soap opera being played out on the web...
<Darth_Whack> hey Luke, what's this s--- about Vivid scamming it's customers?
<Darth_Whack> one would think that a company as high profile as them wouldn't do something like that
<xxxgen> l-keford you evil man!!!
<LMack> hi craig
<l-keford> :)
<xxxgen> Lmack - how are you?
<xxxgen> Writing all that gossip about me on your site!!
<LMack> Terrific Craig, you?
<xxxgen> I never had sex with that woman
<l-keford> has anyone here been f---ed by fantastic or craig?
<xxxgen> Bend over everyone!
<l-keford> craig sounds more like paul fishbein every day
<xxxgen> Where's my Chiffon
<l-keford> lol
<xxxgen> Or however you spell that!
<l-keford> i'm waiting for your lawsuit threat
<xxxgen> :) YOU BASTARD!!!
<xxxgen> LMACK - just readi all the crap on Lukes site!! :)
<LMack> Hmmm, do I have to?
<xxxgen> lol - it seems I have to more often!!! I have to prepare my case!
<l-keford> how's your case against kiss?
<xxxgen> getting all the documents together - more a threat than a case I think
<xxxgen> Any questions anyone would have for a Janine interview?
<WarmProp> hmm
<l-keford> she has reitred
<SweetJem> bye
<WarmProp> the standard porn "interviews" are so boring
<Darth_Whack> Ask her what in the hell posessed her to f--- Vince Neil
<WarmProp> they're all "what's your favorite color" level crap.
<MadisonFan> under the impression he was still a rockstar prolly
<xxxgen> lol - I know she has retired but I want to do a farewell interview
<xxxgen> that's why I'm askin you guys!
<Darth_Whack> he hasn't been a rockstar since 1991
<MadisonFan> shes a pornstar, not rocket scientist
<xxxgen> she's a rockscientist!
<WarmProp> i'm not expecting anyone to be an einstein either. maybe it's the writers that don't know their craft
<MadisonFan> shes a bore
<Darth_Whack> doenst take a rocket scientist to figure out Vince Neil hasn't been a rockstar since 1991
<xxxgen> you think?
<xxxgen> lol - Vince Neil - RIP 1991
<MadisonFan> how many times can you watch her do the same old g/g stuff? you seen it once, its about done
<Darth_Whack> we need more women in porn like Lisa De Leeuw, and Little Oral Annie, ya know?
<Darth_Whack> those were legends
<Darth_Whack> Seka
<WarmProp> no i'd actually like to read real interviews that have a realistic touch to them
<Darth_Whack> Agreed Mad
<l-keford> just rip off the one she gave geneross.com
<MadisonFan> tho i will admit janine has looked really hot with her darker hair
<Darth_Whack> I never found her attractive at all
<WarmProp> no difference to me whether one is a pornstar, politican, musician whatever
<xxxgen> II've always been a Raven fan - where is she now? Patricia Kennedy, Selena Steel e - Cat Woman was great - all three were there!
<Darth_Whack> you wanna know some real pornstars?
<Darth_Whack> Taija Rae, is she still hookin for coke, Luke?
<Darth_Whack> who are your favorite pornstars, Luke?
<xxxgen> NJG!!
<Darth_Whack> luke loves all pornstars equally
<Darth_Whack> he plays no favorites
<xxxgen> lol&127;
<MadisonFan> he loves the ones that blow him...no he hates them...no he loves them...no etc
<WarmProp> so craig will luke get da boot if and when the mag takes off? :) what exactly is luke's purpose in fantastic's payroll?
<LMack> Tax deduction for charity?
<MadisonFan> he f---ed the centerfold
<xxxgen> His purpose is to make anything I say look good in comparison!! :)
<MadisonFan> hehe
<l-keford> tt boy, tom byron
<xxxgen> he f---ed my centerfold!!!!
<MadisonFan> so thats it, lukes problem is hes a fag, that explains everything
<xxxgen> Seriously though - you have to see these great pics of Kendra in the new issue - she's a gangsta!!
<WarmProp> more k-9 pics on the site luke, that'll make the company going public really good :)
<Darth_Whack> no comment
<xxxgen> Luke is a backdoor boy!
<MadisonFan> kendra has been looking hotter these recent times
<xxxgen> WP: Luke knows not to show his pet pics anymore!!
<xxxgen> Kendra rocks guys - she is very professional and yes she has been looking great lately
<l-keford> eversince craig porked her
<WarmProp> i would've love to hear that phone call
<xxxgen> :) yeah - at Luke's petting Zoo!
<MadisonFan> kendra is an interesting girl, thats all ill say
<Darth_Whack> still no comment
<xxxgen> lol - so politically correct!!
<Darth_Whack> with Luke around, you have to be
<l-keford> you can trust me dw
<xxxgen> lol - oh yeah!!!
<MadisonFan> ill say anything in front of luke
* MadisonFan isnt a pussy
<xxxgen> singin "He's an asshole"
<MadisonFan> luke likes the role of asshole tho, i believe
<Darth_Whack> Im not a pussy Mad, I just don't care for that type of contraversy
<xxxgen> yeah - he's a slippery fella!
<MadisonFan> btw Mike Albo is a big PUSSY
<xxxgen> Luke would kick his ass!! He beat the s--- out of me once!!
<Darth_Whack> I'm gonna write one called "Luke F-rd writes the f---ing stupidest things"
<LMack> hi Rall
<LordBuckley> Luke's in it for the money....
<MadisonFan> lukes it in for the pussy and added guilt
<xxxgen> Luke gets paid way too much!!! He's always asking for more money!!!
<MadisonFan> luke- when are you going to rate the pornstar pussy youve had?
<l-keford> that would be tasteless