Monday, October 25th, 1999

Jim Gunn: l-keford, you remind me of an obsessive-compulsive, with all your JEW references. Big revelation, the entertainment business has lotsa Jews in it. You're blowing the lid off a really unbeliveable story (dripping sarcasm).

Gene Ross had Elle Angel getting her tits done and already signed with Extreme, both are false.

Regarding Metro Home Video, XXX says: "It seems that missed filings are NOT why trading was halted or at least not all of it a buddy tells me that when a publicly held company bounces checks....thats a BIG deal with the SEC."

Does TN porner Mike Skokolo = Mike Thevis Jr? A Mike Skokolo owns a bunch of stores up there (TN) and a 421 Corp based in Atlanta.... 421 is almost certainly a shell and skokolo has GOT to be a fictitious name. I know that Thevis Jr has had conversations and dealings with Michael Morrison. I also know that Morrison has tried to buy VCA on a couple of occasions. I do know that Skokolo is NOT Michael Morrison...or at least the guy who claims to be Skokolo is not.

I quote from :

Luke F-rd to "Take Out" Mike Albo

Luke F-rd has graciously extended a luncheon invitation to Mike Albo scheduled for Tuesday afternoon.

Ford, via phone, invites Albo, thusly: Ford: "Hey, Mike, I'm sorry. I didn't get your message until this afternoon. It was too late to meet you. Sorry if I've given you offense. Can't believe there was inaccurate information on my website about you. When John Douglas told me you were dressed as a little fairy on that Wicked set I should have known that was false and misleading information. I want to apologize on behalf of all of us at l-keford.com. And we'd like to take you out to lunch. I mean we'd really like to take you out, pal. I mean lunch is on us. I think that's Tuesday at noon. Me and John Douglas, we're going to take you out. I mean take you out, pal. So meet me out front of l-keford.com headquarters at 264 South La Cienega #1417 at noon on Tuesday. And we're going to take you out, pal."

Albo: "Any guy who threatens me, especially Luke F-rd, is in for such an ass whipping, that he ain't gonna recovery from it. Do you believe this guy? Talk about somebody who's going to get their ass beaten so badly. I can't believe this guy."

Albo says he has no idea what's started this new round of intellectual point-counterpoint between him and Ford. "Once again Luke F-rd is showing he has nothing to write about," said Albo who went on to make some comment about Ford and closets. Whatever that meant.

"He used to ask me to go to synagogue with him. He used to ask me to go to the movies with him. Of course I refused all that."

Albo: "Apparently when I abandoned him in east LA I was trying to be kind to him rather than kick his ass," Albo continued. "So he stopped for a long time. For whatever reason in his deranged, obsessive mind, he has decided again to start this whole thing that I'm a fairy. Some guy had related an incident to Luke about how Mark Kernes and I were on the set of a Wicked Pictures movie dressed like fairies. I wasn't on the set. I wasn't there. If he wanted to verify this all he had to do was call. I don't know what the guy's problem is. I've tried to set up meetings with him. And he won't show up. Now he's trying to threaten me. The little bitch won't show up to meet me face-to-face. I've probably mentioned this story ad nauseam and my editorial assistant will verify it because he was in the car.

"Luke was so afraid of me, sitting in that car, that his hands were shaking. It's easy to be a tough guy and talk s--- when you're safely ensconced in your Beverly Hills apartment. If he has something to say to me he knows where to find me. That's a mark of a man. Will you say what you say in print to the persons face, or will you cower like a little girl inside your apartment and snipe from a distance? Which anybody can do. Anything I've ever written about anybody in our magazine that's gotten anybody pissed off, I've said it to their faces as well. Unlike Luke who will not who's just as quiet as can be when he's confronted with me. I'd still like to talk to him face to face, but he apparently is too much of a little bitch to do that. He probably knows that I'm going to lose my temper and punch his nose and break it. I swear to God, you can tell anybody this, if I have to go to jail for this, if I get sued for this, I don't care. It's totally worth it to me. I got plenty of time. I'm issuing a challenge to him. He can meet me anytime, anywhere and get his nose broken. Or he can knock this s--- off."

Gene sez: "From where I sit it, it looks like Luke genuinely wants to mend fences and take Mike Albo out. I mean really take him out, pal."

Albo adds this in a postdate: "Gene: Epithets such as "fairy," "fag," and "punk" seem, on the surface, very easy to use, but, unfortunately, too many people don't use these words correctly. Generally speaking, these words no longer connote homosexuality, but a lack of the qualities needed to be a man-as opposed to a boy or a woman-in our society.

"A man, as most of us were raised to believe, has a sense of honor and would rather lose a limb than violate that honor. A man keeps his word, and doesn't say things he can't back up. A man says what he means and means what he says.

"A man also has the courage of his convictions and is therefore not afraid to speak his mind. If a man has something to say, he'll say it publicly and directly and does not have to resort to posting insults on an electronic page. A real man will confront things head-on and is loathe to be perceived as a cowering little coward.

"Any man who was reared in the United States will recognize the truth in what I'm saying. And, it's with this in mind that I have to say that I'm somewhat perplexed by Luke F-rd's attempts over the last week or so to hurl the word 'fairy' so casually at me.

"After all, I've tried on several occasions to meet with Luke to discuss this matter, but he is apparently too petrified to do so. If anyone deserves the sobriquet of 'fairy' it would seem to be Mr. Ford, who, besides spending most of his waking hours in pursuit of 'gossip' (which is usually seen as being the domain of women, by the way), lacks the courage to say what he what he writes on his site about me to my face.

"Since it is painfully obvious that Luke scavenges your site for material (a real man, incidentally, doesn't have to resort to lifting the work of others), I know that he will be reading this, and, more likely than not, will be posting this as well. I'd like to reiterate that if anybody truly fits the definition of a fairy, it's Luke F-rd.

"In other words, Luke, if you want to be respected as a man, instead of being seen as some sort of squirrelly little half-chick, you'll get on the phone, call my office and set a time and place where we can meet and discuss things man-to-boy.

"If you decide that you would rather continue to snipe at me from the safety of your apartment, so be it. That will just underscore my impression that while you may be a lot of things to a lot of people, the one thing you certainly aren't is a man."

Gene sez: "I'd like to be there for this meeting, if it ever takes place."

BmanInLA [from Danger Boy Video]: Hey Luke i wanna go to luch with you and Jon Douglas and Mike Albo.. Do you think we can take him to a freeway offramp when your done with him where i will start my newest series which you inspired called "Freeway Offramp Rendezvous".
Luzdedos1: I love it but i hear you guys are unscrupulous.
BmanInLA: lol Hey i never said i wouldnt shell out a couple bucks and a hamburger for the movie rights. I think Jon Douglas will do the freeway offramp gig for free just to watch you and Mr. Albo Unscrupulous ... i'm shocked .. You know us guys at Dangerboy Video are into the Fairy Queer Storyline Bulls--- .. hey wait thats a new great title .. after freeway offramp rendezvous thats the next movie title what do you think Luke. Are we on the brink of a new era of PORN?

Vivid Video Steals Credit Card Numbers

Vivid Video is stealing people's credit card numbers and charging them $50 a month without permission under the name VivTech 1(800)-848-4336 (CA). When the charges are disputed, Vivid submits phony documentation to the credit card company, claiming falsely that the charges were solicited. This has happened to Luke and Mastrick and numerous others.

Mastrick: "I've disputed the charges with USAA, the credit card issuer, and will talk to my attorney to see if I can initiate a cause of action in the Tennessee courts."

Andy: If your friend mastrick has a USAA credit card, they will go after Vivid like pit bulls. You dont f--- with USAA.

Returning from the Mexico trip, Rayvenness has announced her retirement. According to Talking Blue.com, Jenna Jameson is retiring.

John writes: Luke, no sooner do the following gals do their first interracial scenes, they announce retirement: Jenna Jameson, Rayveness, Jill Kelly. Is this a coincidence or what? Maybe is was a well thought out plan prior to leaving the biz.

Here's a boxcover for "Total Rape and Abuse #7: Anally Raped" starring Ron Jeremy, pumping a bound and gagged blonde. Other rape tapes from this European company star Vixxen. Check out www.aahsex.com in the "video/die hard section."

Done: DoneDone: followed that link to the site where you can order that hardcore stuff.....is that something you can get in trouble for? is looking at that site not recommended? is ordering not recommended?

Luke: I doubt you can get in trouble.

Aghast in Modesto: "Luke, the words "Ron Jeremy" and "consensual sex" never did seem to fit in my book, but I have always tolerated his intrusion into porn. Oddly, there seemed to be some sort of karmic justice taking place whenever some cute porn chick, who would never even dream of giving me the time of day, was soiled by Ron's swarthy probe. This rape tape, however, is too much! That is why I questioned you on a porn star's ability to make $10,000 a month. Ron is probably "the hardest jerkin' man in show business" and yet he has to stoop to this to pay the rent? I though his auto-fellatio gimmick was pretty low, but this rape tape is the f---ing worst."

Lisa Ann in Toronto

AJB writes: Lisa Ann hasn't been doing movies in quite awhile but I thought I'd check out her dance show at Features night club in west Toronto. (No, it's not snowing up here yet.) It was her first Canadian appearance I'm told.

Quick aside: Features was busted by the Toronto Police Uber-Facist Morality Squad a few months back. Sex acts accusations I think. I've enjoyed many porn starlets there in the past: Jeanna Fine, Tera Heart, Houston, J.R. Carrington, Serenity, Kelly O'Dell, etc. Now that Features has re-opened, the music / service and good looks of the stripper talent have all declined a bit. Still okay though.

I think if Herman Melville were writing Moby Dick in 1999, he would have seen Lisa Ann and decided to re-name Chapter 23 of Moby Dick from the "Whiteness of the Whale" to "The Tightness of the Whale's Butt". That is, she's porked up slightly (not horribly though) yet her ass cheeks remain deliciously tight and protruding. She has some good showmanship and there's always a pretty smile on her face throughout her act... still, her face would be better with cum on it. Couldn't she at least squirt a tube of something milky white and gooey -- just for me? But no, there really wasn't much that was unusual or hot in her act. Didn't jump any patrons, didn't rub her coochy, just looked pretty dancing to a fairly amusing array of songs.

Got my usual polaroid done with her but it was tame: no titty grab or spread gash. Just a friendly little snap for $20. She even sells mouse pads with her picture on them. I gave up on mice along time ago, use a touch pad, so no sale there.

Anyway, I didn't strike wood. The only thing memorable was that the DJ said, "Man, Lisa Ann is so damn hot looking it makes you want to go home to your old lady and punch her in the mouth." Geez. I need to see a hotty nasty porn slut in Toronto. Haven't had a nasty girl in months, not since Rebecca Wilde visited. The next girl I see had better looked freshly gangbanged or I'm gonna do something desperate.

James DiGiorgio

Luke and Nice Jewish Girl interviewed director James DiGiorgio Sunday night.

Director James DiGiorgio writes: Luke, I finally figured out NJG's role on your site! NJG is to your site, as STORY and DIALOGUE are to a porn flick! You see, much in the same way that most viewers of porn FAST FORWARD through the dialogue and story, most readers of your site simply DOWN SCROLL through NJG's blather. We all know that the only people really interested and excited by the STORY and DIALOGUE in a porno are its makers and cast, similarly, the only people really interested and excited by NJG's comments are, well, are you and her! I knew she served a purpose: She's filler! She's your "soft" version! You've taken someone with no credentials whatsoever (to speak on the subject of this business), and made her a fixture on your site. And the only reason I can think of --besides filler-- is that somehow, someway, she's what might someday get you that cable sale! Hey! It works for porno, why not for you?

NJG writes: Depressed about her Kafka-esque job she had to go to in the morning, NJG washed her hair. She told her honey Luke F-rd.com that she was depressed, so he came over on his Harley and said "Baaaaby, hop on and let's go for a ride!" But Luke, where are we going? Luke was cryptic as usual, "To Jim's house"...She really didn't know who this guy was, vague descriptions of mafiosos bouncing in her head. Also wasn't he the guy who dissed her recently...? At any rate Luke and NJG found him home, smoking cigarrettes, sprawled out in front of the computer screen...beer cans strewn around the apartment for days....they went in and the following is what was said. At the end she made Jim promise to "look out for my Lukey" and "protect him from that mean guy Mike Albo" which Jim promised to do. NJG was pleased.

Jim: "I didn't upset you, did I?"

NJG: "No. I thought it was really cool."

Jim: "Luke, is this whole conversation going to be on your site tomorrow?"

Luke: "Yes."

Jim: "Should I be saying something really pornographic?"

Luke: "NJG has a question for you [is Jim a member of the Mafia?]."

NJG: "No Luke, I am going to ease into that. First I'm going to charm her."

Jim: "She's got a great voice."

NJG: "And big knockers?"

Jim: "I noticed that. You grew that all on your own?"

NJG: "Yes. But have you noticed how Luke takes really bad pictures, like in the police station."

Jim: "Yeah, Luke's pictures are great... When you're waiting for them to load, you have to wait for half the room to load at the top of the picture before you get to the subject of his photograph. It's really annoying."

NJG: "My DMV pictures is really cute but the pictures on his site make me look fat and ugly."

Jim: "Well listen baby, my job is to make women look beautiful. If you want the right pictures taken, then the next time you're down here..."

NJG: "Can I have all my clothes on?"

Jim: "Hmmm....."

NJG: "I'm more Victorian. I like to wear stuff up to my neck. And down to my ankles."

Jim: "No peaks at the treasures that await."

NJG: "Luke is totally attracted to those Persian chicks with veils and moustaches..."

Jim: "Besides guys. Guys first, then Persian chicks with veils...

"I feel like I should get really raunchy with you, like Brad from Danger Boy Video."

NJG: "Which film school did you go to?"

Jim: "Reuben Sturman Tech. No, I went to junior college and some UCLA... My ex-wife was a mainstream actress."

Luke: "She works at Sin City? One of your ex-wives?"

Jim: "One of my children's mothers... I have two kids, daughter 17, and boy 3. Two kids with two different moms."

NJG: "Could you marry a chick in the business?"

Jim stumbles. "I have a hard time seeing myself getting married again."

Luke: "Commitment troubles?"

Jim: "I like it when someone makes a commitment to me, it's returning that commitment which is a problem... What I do for living is not conducive for relationships and commitment..."

NJG: "What sign are you?"

Jim: "Virgo. It's really tough. If I meet a girl anywhere and we talk and it sneaks out what I do for a living, they don't walk away. They run away."

Luke: "I have the same problem."

Jim: "It is a bigtime problem. There's some girls in the business I'm very friendly with... but I don't think you should s--- where you eat."

Luke: "Blowjobs don't count, says Jim."

Jim: "So I live a fairly chaste life as a result."

Luke: "When did you last get a porn star blowjob?"

Jim: "I don't ever... I love Phylisha Anne... She is one of the most fun people to be around. She always has a smile and is always laughing..."

Luke: "And running her hands up Jim's shorts while he's shooting..."

Jim: "Oh man... I was standing over her on the bed... She can get her hand up there without me knowing it. And she got her hand all the way up there and I didn't know she was there... And I jumped and the camera came flying out of my hands... And Wayne ran five feet back like a tight end for a football team and caught the camera."

NJG: "Are you a fan of The Sopranos? It's great."

Jim: "Yes, I am a fan of mob movies anyway. I have all the Godfathers, Casino, Wiseguys, A Bronx Tale... The Godfathers romanticizes the mob... Luke's always trying to find mobsters in the porn business. It's his life ambition... He wholeheartedly believes that Rob Spallone and I are the key to that..."

NJG: "Do you have ties?"

Jim: "To the Mafia? There is no Mafia."

NJG: "That's what they say in the Sopranos. That's what the lead guy says to his daughter, when she says, dad, are you in the Mafia? So you by saying that same answer, people can draw their only conclusions..."

Jim: "The Mafia is a Hollywood fabrication.

"Luke, I am half expecting you to come to Rob and I with hat in hand and ask for protection at CES this year? Because now you not only have Marc Star hot on your trail and Mike Albo..."

NJG: "Is Mike a big fat guy?"

Jim: "Mike's a nice guy."

NJG: "Yeah, but what's his body like? Is he fat?"

Luke: "Yeah Jim, what's his body like? You should know."

Jim: "Last time I had sex with Mike... He's a good sized guy."

NJG: "Jim, will you do me a favor and promise me that you will protect my Lukey at CES?"

Jim: "We gave him protection once and nobody messed with him."

NJG: "For me? Just imagine my big blue eyes looking at you..."

Jim: "The greatest danger that Luke was in was from us because he was so annoying that we considered putting him in a hole in the desert on the way out there.

"No, I think Luke is terrific. I don't know why all these people have such a big problem with him. Luke has known me and Rob since May of last year..."

Luke: "Hey Jim, have you seen anymore porn stars doing dogs and do you think that this is a growing trend that will catch on?"

Jim: "Somebody asked me to secure talent for a dog movie."

Luke: "And you said..."

Jim: "How much? I actually tried to figure out why that person thought that I would be the person to secure talent for that sort of a video."

Luke: "Did you refer them to Jim South?"

Jim: "I refer everyone to Jim South regardless of what the subject..."

Luke: "If someone offered Jim South $250,000 to find a less actress for a snuff movie, do you think he would do it?"

Jim: "f---, I'd do that... No, I don't think so. You're talking murder."

Luke: "Yeah, but it's just a porn star."

Jim: "Luke, that's a horrible thing to say. Porn stars have a right to live. Of course he wouldn't... I don't know anybody in this business... Well, actually, I do but you haven't mentioned anyone who would do that...

"My business partner Kenny is really into astrology. So when girls come into our office and fill out a talent questionaire, on the questionaire we ask them their sign?"

Luke: "Do you guys making casting decisions based on that?"

Jim: "Yes... We have to cast this girl on this date because her whatever is going to be rising... Something is rising in your anus... I'm actually in Porn Star Trading right now and they are wondering why I am not talking back...

"So you didn't take offense at what I wrote [about NJG]. I had one of those moments of lucidity... And I've figured it out, because I've been trying to figure out what purpose you serve. And then it suddenly hit men in the face like a stream of white light. She's just like the story in a porno. For the people reading the site, she serves no purpose, but she's there. I wish the lotto numbers would hit me like that.

"I'm going to shoot a scene for Plaid 2 this week... We distribute through Gigi Appleton's Avalon. Plaid 1 did very well."

NJG: "The pictures from Plaid were more alternative looking. I liked it."

Jim: "Every scene is shot stylistically different. I got phone calls from people in the business, before the movie came out, and they told me they liked it. Linda Thoren said she saw it at Nic Cramer's house."

Luke: "Do you pay as much child support as Steve Hirsch?"

Jim: "I don't know what he pays."

Luke: "Twenty thousand dollars a month to Ginger Lynn."

Jim: "No. I just voluntarily gave my ex-wife $2500 a month. Now she's through school and almost getting her doctorate in psychology. She's a teacher and therapist and rape trauma counselor."

Luke: "And the reason she got into that was?"

Jim: "A response to my alternative career... She's hoping to undo the damage that I am doing to society.

"Notice that "therapist" split up equals "the rapist." Therapy really f---ed me up. After a year and a half, the f---ing therapist asks me, what do you really want to do? I had to say something so I said, be a standup comic. I wasted three years doing that on the advice of the therapist."

Luke: "But did you find something special inside?"

Jim: "Yeah, I found pornography. Standup got me into porno. You don't just walk in and say, I want to do this. It's like The Blair Witch Project. You just find yourself lost in the woods and suddenly you're in that house, standing in the corner.

"If you ask people how they got here, you get some pretty strange stories and they're all round about. Not too many people set out, well, I'm going to be a pornographer. That's ok, I like what I do, sometimes.

"We've been editing Barely Legal shows for Larry Flynt Publications. We're just finishing number two. It's shot very high end by [veteran photographer] Clive McClain, perhaps their number one photographer. His stuff is gorgeous. He's been with Larry Flynt for 25 years. He's shooting a lot of girls I've never seen before.

"We were doing post production on this church's teleevangelism... All their Sunday broadcasts. We'd been cutting Christianity in one edit bay and smut in the other. We had a hard time collecting money from them... They owed me almost $19,000. They wanted hookers... He's national on the radio and on about six TV markets... I had to threaten them with Fox TV and 20/20 to get paid...

"Nobody else owes me money. I've never been burned."

Luke: "Is that because you're connected?"

Jim: "No, it's because I'm a nice guy. People in this business pay me on time because they think I'm a nice guy, not because they think I have connections with mobsters..."

Luke: "How are your friends with the Yakuza [Japanese organized crime which dominates the porn industry in Japan, Los Angeles, the Netherlands and elsewhere]?"

Jim: "They are fine. We do all the stuff for typhoon Pictures and I am also the co host for the Ahso Hashimoto series. I'm on camera. We do Mystery Science Theater 3000. I appear in about 25 tapes as Biker Jim. Most people don't know it is me. We shot some stuff for them on location with this asian girl. And we had Dave Hardman. And me and Toshi and Dave didn't say anything. Then it came time to do the wraparounds for the show, and Ahso put on his costume and I put on my costume and Dave walked out and went, 'ohmigod, you are them. You're the f---ing Biker Jim.' He said that the only pornos he actually rents are these Japenese Typhoon Pictures Pornos and he's been watching them from day one and never knew it was me. We're very well known in Japan. It's the number one underground series. They're not too happy about.

"The genital stuff over there is all pixilated... Then we get the camera masters here and reedit the shows without pixilation... Pirated pieces slip back into Japan. Asu went back to Japan and picked up an adult magazine and the first thing he was three pages of Ahso and I in our outfits talking about the Typhoon stuff."

Luke: "Who runs porno in Japan? The godfather? The samurai?"

Jim: "I know the guy we work for owns a third of the industry... I'm not giving you his name. It's pretty controlled too... We get along fine. We do a great job and they pay us on time. This guy is a father of two.

"Luke, you don't understand that a lot of people in this business are family guys. They live boring mundane typical lives. You would've loved this business much better 20 years ago when it was party party party and everybody had blow up their nose. Today it's just a business and becoming more mainstream like everyday. The sleaze is still there, but the stuff the borderline legal/illegal situation is gone. Everybody just does their job and goes home. I hate to burst the bubbles of fans out there... Even the girls don't live exciting lives... Maybe what they do isn't so normal but the rest of their life is...

"Of course the Sopornos wrap party was debauchery at its finest. After we wrapped shooting, we asked Kendra to go down to the store and get some beer. And she came back and walked in the house and announced she spent $200-$300 at the liquor store and it turned into what everyone probably thinks every porn shoot turns into afterwards."

Luke: "Did you dip your wick?"

Jim: "I don't recall. I make a good dent in that liquor."

Luke: "Does pornography lead to alcohol?"

Jim: "Oh no, I hardly drink at all. I'll go a month without touching alcohol... I smoke a little herb, if you call that a drug. NJG, aren't I boring?"

Luke: "Come on, get him, NJG."

NJG giggles. "I don't know what to ask him. Jim, you are so right. I really don't know anything about porn..."

Jim: "Neither does Luke but he writes about it all the time. He's making a living off of it. Maybe you could too. In fact, most of the people making a living in this business don't know anything about porn.

"I've heard stories where the cameraman doesn't show up to set so the producer asks the boyfriend of one of the girls if he'll shoot camera, and the guy has never had a camera in his hand in his life. And he shoots the movie. This is not infrequent, and they wonder why so much of it sucks."

NJG: "That's what I like about that business. I like the old punk maxim of do it yourself. And the acceptance factor of differences and weird people."

Jim: "Everybody in this business is dysfunctional... You feel like you're part of this little microcosm of society, society's outlaws..."

NJG: "It's the feeling we used to have when we were all punkers together."

Jim: "And the reason that Luke so gets on this mob thing all the time is that he seens so many of the things that are moblike, like being vouched for. People will call me up on the phone and start asking me questions and I will ask, who gave me your phone number. And even if the girl tells me that she is a brand new girl, I will ask her a couple of questions to determine if she really did work for somebody. There's a paranioa in this business... But if someone calls me up and vouches for the person, I won't ask anymore questions. You can't walk off the street into Jim South's office and book girls."

Luke knows this first hand. In November of 1995, Luke entered the porn industry by arranging with Joseph at Factory Home Video to shoot him a movie for $4000. I called Jim South's office and talked to a woman, asking to make a time to come check out their books to book girls. She asked me who referred me to World Modeling. I mumbled a friends name. She said she had never heard of him. Later I mentioned Yosef's name. That got me in the door.

For the first time, I walked into Jim South's office and spent 30 minutes looking through the books. I was in awe at the beauty and sexuality of the available women. I saw several attractive women hanging out in the office. Randy West walked in and started talking with Jim South.

"Is that Randy West?" I asked Jim's female assistant, awestruck. She said yes. She said most porn stars book through World Modeling.

A few months before, I had first become acquainted with the porn business firsthand at the VSDA show at the LA Convention Center. I had talked to several porn stars and liked it. I didn't like it however when the girls' bosses hussled me off after two minutes because they thought I was just another fan. I decided that I would prove myself to be an important person in this world so that porners would treat me with respect. I would teach them to fear Luke F-rd.

I eventually booked my talent for my movie, What Women Want, through Regan Senter because he was more friendly and accessible than World Modeling. Randy Detroit was also friendly and helpful (fall of 1995).

I shot my movie January 26, 1996 at a loft on Vine Street.

Jim: "You can't just walk in off the street into any of these guy's offices and get a job unless someone vouches for you. And once you're in, you almost cannot do something so indiscrete that you can't be employed by somebody else. It's amazing. People are caught stealing from one company and the next day they're hired on by another company in the same job. 'We fired him because he was stealing 500 pieces a week out of the warehouse.' The next day he's working for another big company as the warehouse manager. They would rather hire somebody like that than somebody they don't know. The business is cliqueish but once you're in, you're in. It's just not easy to get past it."

Luke: "And can you ever leave?"

Jim: "Is it like the mob that way? Of course you can leave but sometimes it is hard to leave because they just barely make life good enough... For me to sit down and think about getting a real job, that might make me nauseous. People tend to stay in this business."

Luke: "I can't believe I am still here, and I started in the fall of 1995."

Jim: "Yeah, you don't know why you're still here and they tried to chase you away. And you won't leave. But if you were gone, god, now I don't have l-keford.com to log on to. You created an interesting diversion. Everybody reads your stuff. You gave AVN the idea to geneross.com. They would've never thought of that if you weren't there."

Luke: "They didn't even want to do that. Paul [Fishbein] hates the gossip and divisiveness... AVN tries to keep inter-industry controversy low."

Jim: "They have to because they're supported by the established industry. They don't have a choice, but they also didn't have a choice not to get into that game. But I think they are making it commercially viable. They didn't just put up a little website with no links... I don't know who's making more money off these gossip sites."

Luke: "I think definitely both AVN is taking a loss on geneross.com and Fantastic on l-keford.com."

Jim has a 2500 word article on the making of The Sopornos in the debut issue of XXXGen magazine.

Jim: "That movie with all the mediocre girls... I knew I did not have to respond to that because I knew that I would be defended. I had some very popular girls in it.

"I don't sound like a pornographer."

NJG: "I don't know Luke. The people I've met through you are really nice. Kendra and James and Brad are all nice. They all seem to really like me."

Jim: "There's me and the character I play. If I'm at events, I'm different than I am on the telephone. Certainly if you see me with Rob. We get thrown out of restaurants and clubs... And it is my mouth that gets us thrown out, not Rob's. All the time. Rob finds himself standing out on the street with me, looking at me, saying, now what the f--- have you done. Because that's what people want. Like when I started that big fight at the Rainbow. That was just showmanship. It was funnier than s---. Something cool to put up on l-keford.com. It got a little more out of hand than I thought it would. That's because Kendra's mother and uncle got so whacky. I was standing there hiding behind Linda Thoren.

"Even though I seem like a regular guy, I obviously have a perverted libido."

Luke: "Still? Doesn't this industry kill your libido?"

Jim: "To an extent, but it is still perverted. It's not that I don't have any sex drive anymore, it's that the things that turn me on have become narrowly focused.

"The whole scat thing and bestiality doesn't do anything for me. Some of the B&D stuff yeah, but not the pain thing... The B&D stuff that includes actual sex. Before I got into this business, the wind would blow and my dick would get hard. I wish I could shoot rape scenes. You can create more suspense and the sex has a bigger payoff. They do it in Hollywood movies all the time and they're doing it to get a rise out of guys. It's not that I want to hurt anybody or do misogyny videos... It's just a fantasy I'd like to pursue.

"Plus you kill your cable sales... You have to be real careful what you put in these movies. You can't have anybody drunk or on drugs... No coercion at all.

"AVN only reviews the hardcore version of a movie when many times, for the features I've done, my chief task as a director was to deliver a good soft cable version. They were more interested in that than the hardcore because the hardcore was going to sell the same amount of pieces regardless of how hardcore it was. But the broadcast sale (the box sells the hardcore) but the movie sells the broadcast rights. So if they tell me to make a couples friendly cable friendly movie, then there goes gaping anal shots... The raincoaters will scream he's a vanilla guy, he's soft, he won't shoot that stuff. But I've shot plenty of that stuff. And I'm not squeamish about shooting it.

"We're not totally autonomous auteurs here who can shoot anything we want to shoot. We discuss what we're going to shoot with them in advance."

NJG: "What's a gaping anal?"

Jim: "When a guy pulls his dick out of her ass, there's a moment there where the asshole remains way open. They call it gaping..."

Luke: "And you can look deep down inside of it."

Jim: "It's like the black hole of Calcutta.

"When you're shooting a cable version, you have to stop the action more than when you are shooting hardcore only and it's hard to keep the heat up in the scene and it will take way longer to do that. So consequently you often come off with a scene that is not as hot as some of these hardcore only gonzos. Then they bag you for it. Hardcore only guys [like Evil Angel and Extreme] brag about how many copies they sell. But compare that with the money made off all the broadcast sales, domestic and foreign, and see whose movie made more money. I can guarantee you that some of my most mediocre attempts hard and soft made way more money than some of these guys best hardcore pieces.

"I'm not doing this to see who can be the nastiest. There are guys who seemingly are. I just want to make a living and do some things that I find creative. It was fun doing The Sopornos. There are seven good sex scenes and 35-40 minutes of dialogue and story, about as much as a one hour TV show. Shooting Sex had 52 minutes of story and 32 minutes of sex. I found that more creatively challenging than the latest blowjob movie, which I've shot for Legend, etc... But what are you going to do with that? You've got a guy, a girl, and she sucks a dick."

NJG: "I don't know what to say."

Jim: "What's the matter? You have a lot to say on his site. You don't shut up... She's a total magpie... Then on the telephone.... Brad was trying to draw out your dark side. That didn't happen. Tell me about your sex life?"

NJG: "It's nonexistent."

Jim: "Eversince you met Luke?"

NJG: "I'm really afraid of men."

Jim: "Because you're an old fashioned romantic type and you make emotional commitments and things... And you get hurt."

NJG: "Yeah, I'm really sensitive. But I'm also bitchy. I'm a Jewish brat."

Jim: "Well, Jewish brats are fun to f---. I love a girl who has an attitude. A girl who has a total attitude, you don't want to bend her over a comfortable chair... You want to bend her over some hard wood with splinters...and make her pay for the attitude."

NJG: "I'm divided and conflicted."

Jim: "You live in San Francisco... It's all fags up there."

Luke: "She likes homosexuals. Godhatesfags.com but NJG likes them."

Jim: "Do you try to convert them, and I don't mean to Judaism."

NJG: "No you have to be really dumb and young..."

Jim: "You're right. These are guys who want to smell s--- when they're having sex."

NJG: "They want anal sex. They don't want vaginal sex."

Jim: "And anal sex is way overrated... I mean, you've got this sphinxter muscle the width of a rubber band. And when you get past that, it's warm air. There's nothing there. Now, you have a properly maintained vagina that caresses a man's penis from the tip to the base. That don't happen in somebody's ass."

NJG: "True. Remember Gigi Allen had that song, "s--- on my dick"? That's anal sex."

Jim: "I hate shooting anal sex because it is always going to take twice as long to shoot it. And there are always problems. And if you get a girl who hasn't done it much, she doesn't know that she's not supposed to eat chili dogs last night... And if you eat chili dogs the night before anal sex, I don't care how many times you do an enema. s---'s going to fly."

NJG giggles.

Jim: "I feel that I should be shooting it wearing a body condom."

NJG: "Why anal sex?"

Jim: "It's a power thing. I'm f---ing you in the ass. That's the ultimate act of power over another human being."

NJG: "But all sex is power. It's all about men dominating women."

Jim: "That how I look at it. When my dick is buried in some girl's vagina, I feel just as much power... Because you get power from turning them on... I don't care who these people are, if there's no pain associated with anal sex, they need to go to a doctor. They've got a stretched out ass.

"I've got a gay married. He was married twice, with kids. He figured out he was gay when he was 37 years old."

NJG: "Do you think Luke is homophobic because he's gay?"

Jim: "I've thought that Luke might be in the closet... But he is drawn to these girls. When he starts getting on his high horse and putting porno down because he's the first guy to get wood in his pants when the girl takes her clothes off... He loves being around these girls. And then every once in a while he goes to the synagogue and the rabbi does some lecture on something that makes him feel guilty so that he has to come back and write about the evils of wanton sex. But I know where his head is really at. He wants to f--- them all.

"Did you see those pictures of him and Shelle in the swimming pool. He was having way too much fun."

NJG: "He was. I was really pissed at him about that."

Jim: "Shelle's got nice natural tits. And a really pretty pussy. I don't think Luke really has a thing for Kendra. You guys inflate that out of proportion."

NJG: "What's weird about Luke is that he likes snooty chicks? He doesn't like working class girls like me."

Luke: "I like executive chicks, doctors, lawyers, etc..."

Jim: "A girl in a business suit is way sexy... Kendra's had a hard life. She's never had s--- handed to her. And we're close friends... She makes the most of what she's got to work with...

"I was partners in an acting school a long time ago... We had casting directors and directors teaching... We were at Sunset Gower Studios..."

NJG: "I studied with Stella Adler. She was a bitch on wheels and she hated women. Any woman was just going to get raked over the coals, but the men, especially the cute guys...

Jim: "You've burned your bridges at Sin City... VCA the same. Vivid, you can't go there. Is there any place where they still like you? Wicked?"

Luke: "No."

NJG: "He should have me talking to these people because he just doesn't know how to talk to people..."

Jim: "He's an equal opportunity basher... He had Russ Hampshire and Matt Taylor feeding him stuff then he pissed them off. And Russ forbade anyone at VCA from talking to you. I don't know if Matt forbade people at Sin City from talking to you. I think they just decided on their own not to talk to you. You could still be coming on sets and things if you had exercised more discretion. But discretion is something you don't understand."

NJG: "I think it is good that he doesn't."

Jim: "I do too... Not too long ago, he had dug himself in so deep, he had nothing to print. There was nothing on that site. Nobody was giving you anything. You became the pariah that others were trying to label you as. I think people are starting to talk to you again. He walks a tight rope because if he becomes ostracized by everyone, he will have nothing to print. It's a tough call sometimes.

"Then he gets in these wacky moods where he goes, f--- them all, I will print anything I want. And those are the times that he ends up for the next month with nothing to print... Everybody goes f--- this lunatic..."

Luke: "It's true."

Jim: "I know it's true. I read your site every f---ing day..."

NJG: "Am I hated in the industry?"

Jim: "No, not at all. People are just wondering why are you there."

NJG: "I'm not sure. I'm a radical female. I love Andrea Dworkin and Pat Buchanan..."

Jim: "I don't think there are many [hetero] porno directors who are gay... Michael Zen... He's one of the coolest guys I've met.

"I can't make gay porn because I can't understand the eroticism of gays..."

NJG: "Antonio Passolini [VCA] is named after that gay Italian director... He chose that porn name..."

Jim: "I didn't get that [gay] take from him..."

Jim: "Luke, your satire is not funny and it's mean. It doesn't look like its designed to get a laugh."

NJG: "That's cool because the people he satirizes get so flipped out, and that's funny."

Jim: "Luke can only go to a function safely in this town is if he is with us. If he stands next to me or Rob, Marc Star would never punch him."

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Becky Carols On Brandy Alexandre

Becky Carols writes Luke: Luke, I'm currently going by the name Becky Carols but I'm actually a MAN. You posted my RAME [newgroup rec.arts.movies.erotica] post on Tony Montana Tests HIV Positive. I've used several alias'. I do this to get around kill filters and those fascist RAME moderators who love kissing Pat Riley's ass while blacklisting me. I'll bet none of absent-minded Riley's posts ever get rejected! He can flame anyone he wants in RAME.

I've only been in the newsgroups since March and over the spring and summer, I've been a living nightmare for both Brandy Alexandre and her worst enemy, the evil hate-all-men Bianca Trump.

Here is the situation: I posted a scenario I wanted to see in a porn flick that I knew would never happen because of all the bad blood between the participants. Read the RAME post thread: Fantasy Bukkake Stars. The guy named Jimmy Mack is a pussy-whipped sensitive type whom Brandy chewed up and spit out. Isn't she a doll? I e-mailed this to Brandy's current boyfriend Michka (a computer geek who has done consulting work for Microsoft). I thought he'd get a good laugh and immediately realize I was Mark. Instead, he thought I was this sexy girl, Becky! When Brandy read it, she knew exactly who I really was although she also accused me of being Mintball, which I'm not! It's funny how Geekboy is very good at computers but a total dumb ass when it comes to common sense! Brandy may be a high school drop out but she's got street smarts. Let me make this perfectly clear: I do not want Brandy for myself! I'm only 22. Hell, she's old enough to be my mother. Now, even though the best butt in the west has a few wrinkles, I'd still have a one night stand with her and I know you would to Luke, admit it.

HERE ARE THE E-MAILS:

From: Becky Carols To: Michael Sent: Monday, October 04, 1999 6:02 PM Subject: Interested Michka, I adore "computer geeks" Could you e-mail a pic of yourself? Becky

From: Michael Kaplan To: Becky Carols Sent: Monday, October 04, 1999 Re: Interested Heh heh heh.... there is a fairly decent picture up at http://www.trigeminal.com/michka.html Ahnd a pic if you, milady? :-) michka

From: Becky Carols To: Michael Re: Interested Sweetie, I don't have a scanner but I'm blonde with blue eyes, 23, 5'7", 110 lbs. I'd really love to meet you! Hugs, Becky

From: Michael To: Becky Carols Re: Interested You'd love to meet me? But you don't even know where I live! And I don't know where you live, either.... michka

From: Becky Carols Re: Interested So where do you live? Becky

From: Michael To: Becky Carols Re: Interested I live in Redmond, Washington. You? michka

From: Becky Carols To: Michael Re: Interested I'm in Knoxville,TN

From: Michael To: Becky Carols Re: Interested Interesting.... I have never been to Tenessee before, you know. :-) michka

From: Becky Carols To: Michael Re: Interested And I've never been to Washington. How about coming down here?

From: Michael To: Becky Carols Re: Interested Hmmm.... this is very spur of the moment, you know. On the other hand, I do often live by my impulses. And I think I may have a friend who lives somewhere in TN (well, used to, at least). When would you want to do this? michka -----

From: Becky Carols To: Michael Re: Interested As soon as possible sweetie. But I must say, I like having kinky sex, how about you? Becky

From: Michael Re: Interested well, I like to make sure there is some attraction there first.... when there is, I can be pretty kinky. :-) michka

Becky Carols writes Luke: I tried contacting Brandy twice about these e-mails but she kill filtered me. I wish it hadn't come to this but I feel posting them on your site is the only way Brandy will finally wake up about that scumbag Michka. I know she talks to you a lot Luke, maybe you can get through her thick skull. I will also try and post them in ACME (alt.cult-movies.erotica) an unmoderated NG started by Brandy herself I believe, where everyone can express their opinions about this without the fear of getting censored (unlike RAME).

I've repeatedly warned Brandy that Michka was using her and that he'll never marry her. He likes to brag that he's dating a former porn star. All of a sudden, he went from geek to Mr. Popular. Brandy never listened to me but rather, saw me as her enemy. It's no secret that she's had a long line of failed relationships. I told her to find someone who knew nothing about her porn past which is the only way to be sure the guy wants her for her and not because she was a porn slut. Well Luke, you know what she did with that advice.

Brandy can be so damn stubborn! She's also angry that she never became a big time porn star. She keeps going to porn industry functions even to this day hoping someone will recognize her. It's really sad. She's had a hard life but I feel some of it was her own doing. She's got a big mouth that gets her in even bigger trouble. She actually went to the People's Court to get money she's earned instead of working it out in a respectable way. Just imagine, if Brandy would have shut the hell up and gone with the flow, she'd be a major porn director today!

I've never seen any of her porn films because I was very young at the time but, I did do a search on them. What I found was very interesting. Of the films Brandy has directed and produced herself, she never hired any non-whites. I say this Luke because as you know, racism in porn is a major concern right now. I'd like to thank Mike Paul ( who shocked me when he said he was white!) for waking me up on this subject. By the way, in case you're wondering, I'm not black. I like to keep people guessing. Isn't cyberspace great!

Now, I'm not saying Brandy is a racist but, she was raised Mormon and its teachings say that if you have sex with a non-white, you must slit your throat in order to get to heaven. Damn, I love religion! Thank god I'm an atheist! Brandy has become an atheist as she proudly admits on her website but, don't dare acknowledge this fact in a newsgroup post like I did or she'll put you in her kill filter! Brandy, how could you screw fat, ugly, disgusting Bill Margold and not muscular black stud Ray Victory? I see someone has serious issues to deal with!

Speaking of racists, how do you get cum bucket Vivid whore Jenteal to run away and hide? Simple, ask her if her suitcase pimp fiance hates blacks, that's how! That's why she's no longer in ACME nor RAME. When faced with the truth, get the f--- out, huh? Do a deja search for the proof. Heaven Leigh, Jenna Jameson, Kelly O'Dell, Brittany Andrews, Celeste, Wendy Whoppers, Tia Bella, and Asia Carrera also refuse to do blacks. Why these porn prostitutes won't screw someone because of the color of his dick, I'll never know! I kicked Ckong's ass in the RAME thread: Porn Manufacturers Unite against Black Men. Read it for yourself. He still hasn't answered me back!

In closing, let me say: Brandy, I would never hurt you. I only wanted you to wake up to what's really going on. You're almost 40 so you need to squeeze out a couple of rug rats before your eggs get scrambled. I know you don't want to end up old, bitter and all alone. That's Bianca Trump's destiny not yours. Now, about your computer crashing and only having a printout of your book, sorry that's hard for me to believe. You're pretty good with computers and we all know that important info must always be saved onto a disk or CD. Hell, even a complete jack ass like Jim South knows that! Brandy, when everything's said and done, I'm the only true friend you have. See you in ACME, let the flames begin...

Brandy Alexandre writes: "Sorry you had such a hard time reaching me about this "Becky" stuff. I have a filter on my email that deletes anything with the mere mention of WebTV anywhere in the message. This little toad is totally psycho.

"And you, Luke, help him along with all the bogus flame material you insist on repeating in my alleged "bio." What does some lamer 22 year old think he knows about me? He's taken the flames others post, who also don't know me, as the gospel truth and formed a completely inaccurate opinion of myself, my relationships and my career. You and I have had this conversation before...:::whack::: This loser is more obsessed with me than BT.

"Everyone knew it was Mark22222 from the beginning--even Michka. While Mark/Becky never got the emails through to me, Michka was sharing them with me all along. We were trying to see how far it would go and then it suddenly stopped. Maybe that's when I bounced the emails, or when I pointed out that Becky was really Mark in RAME. Either way, whatever he thinks he's accomplished... well... the joke's on him. I can't believe he actually thinks he pulled anything so ridiculous off.

"Like I said about Mike Albo (yeah, I'm confessing), people only concoct schemes they would personally fall for. I'm really getting discouraged by the level of ignorance and stupidity I'm starting to see in the world.:::sigh:::"

Jenteal responds: "I am quite amused by the post Luke. I doubt the person who wrote that is really named Becky Carols. I would guess it is Skid Mark pretending (yet again) to be someone else, because everyone hates and ridicules Skid Mark. Despite who wrote it, their post is not worth taking my time to respond to. I will say that I think it is hilarious that, according to some race--angry RAME posters, because I have not had sex with a black guy on camera I must hate blacks. This is just plain stupid.

"I do miss posting in RAME, although I don't miss the idiocy of some people there. I haven't even read the posts in two months due to my dance and work schedule. I have been putting it off because it has been so long since I have posted, there will be too much to catch up on and it will consume too much time. The race-angry RAME posters can go on forever if they want...I don't care. It gives them something to do with their meaningless lives. It gives them purpose and makes them feel better about themselves. I, personally, have better things to do with my life. To the people who post with intelligence in RAME: whether you are fans of mine or not, I miss reading what you have to say. I hope to visit soon.

- Jenteal - cum bucket whore, he he he he. :))

Bianca Trump writes: Luke I did know it was him all along thats why I simply ignored it and didn't bother to reply. And as far as that jackass statement about me hating men.....LOL get real.He posted that in rame right after I requested votes for Miss 1999 Hustler centerfold of the year. busty@lfp.com ( He stated that he wanted to vote for someone who wasnt even a centerfol) I love men.Too man men too many times. :0) For the record I am currently in a relationship .....hence the removal of my famous perfect man page, mens asset page, and five most f---able men page. I have been single because I choose not to settle. I believe I need the right man, not a man right now. This little "man hater" will be tying the knot and knocked up before he can even figure out how to finance a pc. Bianca Trump

Ian Gittler's Pornstar Book

Ian's book cover features Savannah. The story begins in September of 1991, when Gittler talked to ex porn star, ex Steve Hirsch f---buddy Jenny Wren, then the publicist for Vivid Video. Wren connects Gittler to Vivid girl Jamie Summers.

Writes Ian: "The girl who opens the door looks nervous. She's young, "twenty-three," she says. A thick base doesn't conceal a broken-out complexion... Obviously I'm more impressed with the whole idea of what she does for a living than she is. Jamie says she jsut wants to act in "real movies.""

Gittler and Summers walk outside to take some pictures. She tries to stop her left eye from flickering. "It makes her look like a bad girl," writes Gittler. "Images of abused pets pop into my head... I prefer the idea of Jamie as the pretty, happy daughter of an LA physician."

Summers was best known for her series "The Brat," where she played herself.

Gittler reports that Summers getting naked breaks the tension between them. She appears more confident because it is through her body that she asserts control. Her roadie and roommate Steven is a slight gay man. She says there's an older man, not really her boyfriend, who "takes care of her." A potential boyfriend freaked out when he learned she was "Jamie Summers." That's happened many times to her.

Gittler started his porn star coffee table book as a crusade to vindicate promiscious sex. He wanted to glorify porn stars and ignore their pathologies. It'd be the first picture book by a straight guy.

In October of 1991, Ian drives to San Francisco to meet Jeanna Fine and her boyfriend Sikki Nixx. They come off as whacked out druggies.

Ian squeezes her tits. "Up close the scars around Jeanna's nipples [one tit job paid for by Russ Hampshire] are severe. They look chewed up. One is pierced. She's had three operations already."

Once again, Fine seems more confident in front of the camera after she takes her clothes off.

Nixx met Fine at CES. He asked for her autography. She asked him to meet her afterwards. He moved to Los Angeles and in with her. She got performing in front of the camera. He had the lead role in Edward Penishands. He says the producer received calls from Tim Burton, John Waters and Johnny Depp, wanting Nixx to autograph the tape.

Before attending the Exotic Erotic Ball, a San Francisco Halloween party, Jeanna hangs out in Porsche Lynn's hotel room. Gittler spots a hand-held mirror with "powdery residue" that Fine covers with a paperback book when Ian walks in.

At the ball, Sikki is buzzing from a strange acid trip. Jeanna flirts with fans then punches them if they get too friendly. The scene reminds Luke of the time he attended 1996 FOXE awards in Hollywood. Groups of fans would surround porn starlets who'd spontaneously strip. Fans would start touching them, and at times, the starlets would punch the fans or grab their hair and yell at them.

Next chapter is entitled "Los Angeles." Gittler visits Tom Byron at home. Tom says he's talking to someone at William Morris talent agency about a book deal. It never happens.

For pictures, Byron mugs "like a hardened ex-con... His torso is soft and he asks that his belly not be "highlighted."" When Gittler puts away the camera, Byron looks bored.

He says the Traci Lords scandal is "bulls---." The media just want sensational stories about porno, but day to day, the industry is just like any other business.

Sean Michaels tells Gittler that he's on a mission to break down racial stereotypes. At his apartment two blocks south of Sunset Blvd, he hosts a costumer party. Numerous porners attend.

Flame's boyfriend Rob is the kid brother of porn actress Raven.

Trixie Tyler appears dumb, humorless, bored but sexy anyway.

ER69: I really loved trixie tyler, got some quality time with her in the booth at Regal Show World, very dowm to earth girl. But what the hell ever happened to her?

Sharon Mitchell and John Stagliano arrive. Like Nina Hartley, she projects a lesbian tone. "You're a guy, but I forgive you."

Sikki talks about Jeanna Fine's commitment to "safe sex." He says that eversince Tom has refused to work without condoms, he's working less.

Flame and Rob are drunk. His eyes look dead. She blows him.

"Ashlyn Gere...is in a bedroom with the door closed. Sean says her baby is sleeping.

"A Spanish transvestite wearing a red satin dress gives Tom head..."

A few weeks ago, Luke ran a picture of Tom sucking a guy's dick. Like half of the porn studs, he obviously doesn't mind going both ways.

April Rayne calls Gittler. "I have a really nice pickup truck. I just don't have money for gas..." Ian picks her up. She tries to sell him some of her costumes. He brings her to his photo studio.

She tells him she no longer does f--- films. She has a part in the low budget independent feature Hold Me, Thrill Me, Kiss Me. The director discovered her in the porno video Personalities. In this feature film, Rayne is credited under real name Andrea Nashak.

"April's chest is a shock... The scars under her nipples are red, fresh."

Gittler comes on to her. She says no. He backs away, resumes snapping photos and her smile returns.

She talks about her boyfriend's band, Dumpster, who will open for Guns n'Roses at the Whiskey [rock club on Sunset Blvd]. April has financially supported him for months.

In March 1992, Gittler visits a dope smoking Heather Hunter at her New York apartment.

Jewhoo.com Rejects Luke

Saturday night Luke wrote Jewhoo.com: "My name is Luke F-rd. I write and operate l-keford.com and have been written about in numerous publications from Rolling Stone to the Los Angeles Times. And I am Jewish. And I have a great section on Jews in porn, and a much better section on Jews in hollywood than your wimpy link."

Jewhoo.com editor NTeibloom@aol.com, responding to Luke's suggestion that his site list Luke, writes: "Looked at your site. To describe it as bizarre--especially as to Jews--would be an understatement. I have my reasons for not adding all the Hollywood Jewish names at this time. I particularly "enjoyed"--despite the commentary around it--the re-printing of god knows how many anti-Semitic tracts. But what would you know, being the son of evangelical parents from down under? Congrats on being the Matt Sludge of the Internet. Well, as for your last comment, in case you don't speak Yiddish, I will put it in English: go s--- in the ocean."

Lord Peter Christian writes: Dear Mr. Ford: It is with dismay that we, the undersigned, note the animosity and vituperation that have been heaped upon those actresses in your field that have chosen not to have sex with members of certain races. This is nothing more, or less, than proper racial hygeine, and is to be applauded, particularly in this deracinated age of rampant miscegenation. The people who attack others for not copulating with all comers are just whiners. Would they speak out on our behalf were we to note that these women refuse to have sex with us? After all, they won't have sex with us, but you do not hear us whining about it. Sincerely, William Shockley (Joo!) Alfred Rosenberg (Joo!) Larry Flynt (Joo!) David Duke (Joo!)

Luke: Larry Flynt and David Dukes are not Joo!s.

Christian writes: A Joo! is what Yahoo! says you are not. And about that, what basis do they have to refuse to recognize you as a member of the tribe? Lack of fealty to jewish religious practices? No - can't be that, as you are far more observant than the vast majority of jews, including Steven Spielberg, Mel Karmazin, Howard Stern, Ron Jeremy, Karl Marx, Freud, etc. No - their opposition is a mixture of racial animosity and, to a lesser degree, embarrassment over your chosen profession. (I note that the polytheist Annie Sprinkle is listed as a jew. Other than on racial grounds, how can that be?) You need to confront this Titlebaum guy over there about his racial prejudices. I'll bet that you take judaism far more seriously than he does, and certainly more seriously than most of the tribesman on his site. PS If you were rich, and I mean really rich, you would be welcome onto Joohoo with open arms.

Luke writes: "When was the last time you were in shul you self-hating Jewish goy?"

Jewhoo.com editor NTeibloom@aol.com replies: "The term you use is one I was going to apply to you. But I almost always refrain from using it --because it is cliched and McCarthyesque. Easy to say- and thereby used to blot out the point anyone else is making. But, as to you,-- anyone who is really Jewish and tells people he is from evangelical family has got problems. Anyone who adopts the name of a prime Christian saint and the most famous American anti-Semite--has problems. Anyone who pastes up anti-Semitic tracts on his site has a problem--especially when the counter argument is confusing. Anyone who does not recognize why porno stars don't want to id'ed as Jewish has a problem--its a shonda for the goyim--or hadn't that thought occurred to you. Anyone who introduces Neal Gabler's argument as "The Jew Neil Gabler" has problems.

"I have some problems listing Jews--but I wanted my site to be similar to the many celebratory books on the market that list famous Jewish persons. At a certain point I say f--- the anti-Semites. The site is for Jews playing Jewish geography. I get letter after letter from Jewish people telling me how much they love the site. (The porno category antedated my editing; it will be eliminated soon).

"I do not know the point of the stuff on your site other than it is some weird mixture of porn, conspiracy theories, sociology presented in a confusing format and whatever. Have you read the Jewish stuff lately? The anti-Semitic stuff overwhelms whatever counter arguments are made. If I didn't know better, I would think that Katherine Graham (half Jewish--raised Christian), Donald Fisher of the Gap (Republican), Kirk Douglas, The UJA, Noam Chomsky,and Benny the Pickle man meet regularly to decide on the spoils.

"I was last in shul two weeks ago. Have a good life."

Gustav writes Luke: Mr. Ford, I have been a long time admirer of your site and a fan of the industry. I have two points I want to make: 1. Although your book was very enlightening and filled with details, it was written terribly and for the cost that it is selling right now, it is not worth it (although your selling of an autographed copy is). When will you come out with another book? 2. Reading through your archives, I happened upon an article that you are after Howard Stern. What do you have against him? Are you jealous that he has more respect in the industry than you do?

Luke: I don't have many thoughts on Howard Stern. Those rants you read were written by someone else and emailed to me.

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<LindaThoren> Everyone went away when I came...

<MikeSouth> football is such a *twink* sport

<LMack> Hehehe

<LMack> First checked who's here did you?

<LMack> Tomorrow on l-keford.com

<LMack> (@MikeSouth): football is such a *twink* sport

<MikeSouth> buncha fags bump into each other then all "huddle" up for a few minutes patting each others ass and talking about bumping into each other again

<LMack> Hehehe

<LMack> Going for the front page :)

<MikeSouth> HELL ya

<LindaThoren> Am I the only one who likes Luke..?

<MikeSouth> I love Luke

<LMack> We all do

<MikeSouth> Luke iz da f---in bomb

<MikeSouth> I want him to mother my children

<LMack> He's making me feel gay

<LindaThoren> Nit ironicly...I really likes him.

<MikeSouth> I really like him too Linda

<LMack> Yeah, but you're a sweetheart

<MikeSouth> Luke is as honest as anyone I know....I think

<MikeSouth> Luke just prints all the stupid s--- people in the biz say that they wish they hadn't said

<MikeSouth> then they get made at Luke saying what they said wasn't really what they meant

<MikeSouth> bet that makes his site :)

<LindaThoren> He just quote what other people says...people talk a lot of bulls--- in the biz. Don't blame Luke for that....

<LMack> Hehe

* LMack sees a new headline "Porners absolve Luke F-rd of all sins"

<LMack> I still think he ought to check before he prints

<LindaThoren> Blame the bulls---ters!

<MikeSouth> most porners would prolly prefer to absolve Luke of all life

<LMack> They shouldn't talk to him, or they shouldn't moan

<LindaThoren> LMack: Don't agree. It should be the bulls---ters who should stay there with all all shame. Not Luke....

<LMack> That's what I mean Linda

<LMack> If you don't want Luke to write what you say, don't talk to him

<LindaThoren> ...and he got the currage to publicise all the negative posts to him. I like him, he is brave...

<MikeSouth> gee Luke...yer my hero.....

<LMack> Maybe he is

<LindaThoren> When did you see Gene publish anything negative about himself....

<MikeSouth> Im having fun goading Brandy on lukes site lately...I knew she never had a book...jeez

<LMack> I take your point Linda

<MikeSouth> she posted in writing newsgroups like she was an author...f---, just because ya have a bad dream doesn't make ya Seven King

<LMack> Maybe he's brave, maybe he just doesn't care

<LindaThoren> To anyone: I 've done the best pornmovie I've ever done last week. Nic Cremer directed for Sin City. The title is Pure Sin. A lot of "real" sex, horny as hell...

<jimmyD> its matt...matt taylor

<Matt_T> hi, jimmy, didnt you know it was me f---ing with you

<jimmyD> jesus f---ing christ

<jimmyD> heheheh

<LindaThoren> Jimmy: I saw one of your films -- liked it a lot. Don't remember the titel, but Kendra waqs in it...and Cherry Mirage....

<GregSteel> linda: like i was saying, Nic is an awsome director so i'm sure it will do well for you!

<jimmyD> its called PLAID

<LindaThoren> Greg: I normaly think Nic's stuff is a litle bit to soft. This one is not...

<VideoEd> JImmy i just recently seen your Malibu Nights movie on Exxtasy (jessica darlin debut)

<Matt_T> what happens in the movie, people get pl-laid

<GregSteel> lol

<jimmyD> something like that...pl...laid...ahh i get it

<GregSteel> played, sprayed. & laid!

<A_Stupid_Dirty_Girl> LOL

<Matt_T> dirty girl is easily amused

<LindaThoren> Jimmy: Cherry is a every bisexual girls wet dream....

<GregSteel> but we love that about her matt

<jimmyD> all these american pornographers are pussies linda..they're afraid to unleash the sexual animals that are within the performers

<LindaThoren> Jimmy: More ruff sex... Let the talents free....

<GregSteel> hell baby im mainstream now. i just miss you guys

<LindaThoren> Greg: Well well, I heard that before....

<jimmyD> are you trying to say that porn is less than mainstream?

<GregSteel> matt: im over the drugs, my wife is pregnant, and i still love the beatles. sheez im gettin old!

<Matt_T> problem is after i sign them, they forget how to f--- and act like they are licking s---

<GregSteel> So Jimmyd: On set today my camera op asked me if I used to be Greg Steel. Gotta love mainstream, they all watch porno!

<VideoEd> matt: sounds like vivid girls your signing there

<Taksan> geeze thats interesting because often they are licking s--- with me :-)

<Matt_T> ed, you know my luck

<LindaThoren> Matt: You got the wrong girls...

<jimmyD> that's cuz you treat them too good matt...yu should take some lessons from john bone in handling your contract girls

<LindaThoren> Admit it, you producers are not anything but raincoaters with a camera ...and I like it that way....

<jimmyD> i have those polaroids of you sitting at my feet, greg..with me whearing that Dahli Lama costume

<GregSteel> only big difference between the two is that the checks are good now from the producers

<GregSteel> lol jimmyd

<Matt_T> how is it that linda knows the term raincoater, sound like tomas is on the keyboard

<LindaThoren> Matt: Tomas is sleeping...

<jimmyD> she was hanging with me last time she was in town, matt...i gave her some english as a second language lesson

<GregSteel> to be honest. I gotta shoot 6 days a week 13 hours a day working with actors tha are a bigger pain in the ass than any Vivid girl ive dated!

<LindaThoren> Lmack: In my book the real heros is those who got the currage to keep on, inspite that everyone hates them...

<LMack> But Linda, what if you don't respect the people who hate you

<LMack> Because sometimes I don't feel Luke respects his subjects

<MikeSouth> pardon me for waking up but personally I havent found more than a few respectable people in this biz

<LindaThoren> ...and to be honest...the man has pointed out some aerias we don't talk about, but we all know is there...I repeat, he is my hero...

<LindaThoren> LMack Maybe they don't deserve respect...

<MikeSouth> respect is something you earn

<MikeSouth> I think Luke respects those who have earned his respect

<LindaThoren> MS: He has earned mine....

<MikeSouth> I respect the hell outta Luke if nothing else he is a marketing geious

<MikeSouth> geniuos

<MikeSouth> f---

<LMack> Hehehe

<MikeSouth> genius

<MikeSouth> wizard

<LMack> You misspelled on purpose

<LMack> Just to get more lines :)

<LindaThoren> Yeah, but I don't think he gonna make much money on it....

<Darth_Whack> is the stat bot back up Lmack?

<MikeSouth> I been in this biz for 6 yrs and have 2 AVN awards and MANY noms....but half the people in the biz have no clue who I am

<LMack> Darth_Whack Lines on l-keford.com :)

<MikeSouth> Luke has been around for less than 2 yrs and NOBODY doesnt know Luke

<LindaThoren> MS: Blame Luke!

<Darth_Whack> Marketing Genius, that has been said by another porner about a really annnoying and lame person in the industry, and I still dont believe it

<MikeSouth> Luke is a damn fine PR guy

<MikeSouth> DW....who

<Darth_Whack> I would rather not mention names, for some reason I keep getting this feeling that we are being watched

<Darth_Whack> basically, I dont agree with that, well, he's not TECHNICALLY a porner, he does work within the industry, but I dont feel that Kid Vegas is a good promoter

<LindaThoren> Why are you all so nevous about Luke. Face it: The biz needs someone from the outside too. If we didn't got it we would be open for everything kind of atacks. See him as our own digging reporter -- I think we need him...

<MikeSouth> Kid Vegas is a loudmouth...if Vagrant is a marketing genius lets see him build a website that gets the hits lukes does

<Darth_Whack> regardless, I dont think KV is a promoter of any kind, except the negative kind.

<MikeSouth> I aint nervous about Luke....he can say anything he wants about me cept that I abuse women or children or animals

<Darth_Whack> what has KV been up to recently? I haven't read much about him on LF or GR

<MikeSouth> hell he can say I abuse myself :)

<LindaThoren> MS: If he had said that, he probably have quote someone....

<MikeSouth> cuz I do :)

<MikeSouth> hey Luke when you read this help me find out why nikki is extorting money from Rob Black....I wanna know what she has on his ass

<MikeSouth> BUT what you COULD do is ask Fish if AVN would accept ads from a company that he KNOWS is pirating videos and reselling the copies

<MikeSouth> then when he says no ask him why he accepts ads for personalporn.com

<MaSTRICK> I wanna find out who at VivTech 1(800)-848-4336 (CA) has gotten peoples' credit card numbers and is charging $49/month without permission

<MaSTRICK> I think it's Vivid 'cause I'm getting spammed by them

<MikeSouth> I think it is

<MikeSouth> lots of people have been complaining about that

<MikeSouth> ask Luke he has info on it and would no doubt appreciate yours

<MaSTRICK> I've disputed the charges with USAA, the credit card issuer, and will talk to my attorney to see if I can initiate a cause of action in the Tennessee courts.

<MikeSouth> good for you mastrick

<MikeSouth> go for it

<MaSTRICK> They can come here and defend or I'll file a motion for summary judgement

<MikeSouth> guys like that give us a bad name

<MaSTRICK> I have zero memberships - I have not given that credit card number out to any website

<MaSTRICK> Wonder how they got it

<MikeSouth> good ?

<MaSTRICK> KUNT-TV did the same thing a month ago and rebated the charges when I asked for the telephone number of their legal representative

<MaSTRICK> I had never heard of KUNT-TV

*** MaSTRICK is now known as Mastrick

<MikeSouth> me either....sounds like someone has lifted yer card number

<Mastrick> Yeah I wonder how

<Mastrick> Maybe they hacked their way in through Outlook

<MikeSouth> its actually real easy

<MikeSouth> most likely from a reciept or something

<MikeSouth> I mean how can ya beat pretty girls doing whatever nasty s--- you tell them to :)

<Elf69> when is anabolic going to tell us who the lucky gals are for GB Girl #25?

<J0HNG0TTI> did anyone see those tori welles returns flicks?

<adamjm> i saw one

<adamjm> the one with her tied up and s---

<JT27> Torn? I kinda liked it...

<Elf69> why did she make a comeback? she is so old.....and has not aged well

<adamjm> and kaitlyn ashley

<MikeSouth> she shoulda quit while she was a legend...thats like Muhammed Ali wanting to fight again.....

<MikeSouth> makes her look like a joke

<J0HNG0TTI> good point mike

<GregSteel> lol or larry holmes

<J0HNG0TTI> christy canyon keeps coming back now and then and it isnt so bad

<MikeSouth> greg you dint hear?

<J0HNG0TTI> shana mcculough though looks better then ever

<GregSteel> she isnt so bad john. wink wink mike

<MikeSouth> ali is wanting to fight again

<Elf69> christy canyon should come back and try soemthing new....like a facial cumshot

<MikeSouth> for real

<Pau|B> mike: it was a joke, he's not fighting

<MikeSouth> hell christy should try porn

<adamjm> if sharon mitchell comes back we got a situation on our hands

<J0HNG0TTI> shana is really coming back hardcore

<MikeSouth> well pbr Im glad to hear that

<GregSteel> christy does facials i know....just not on camera. wink wink

<MikeSouth> the whole thing WAS a joke

<MikeSouth> regardless

<J0HNG0TTI> when sharon mitchell comes back im gonna be seen in the gay section

<Elf69> actually cheyenne silver can talk like a slut

<PapillionLover> cheyenne(wildcat) is sweeetttt

<zoexxx> there are too many f---ing girls in the biz named Zoe

<zoexxx> it is starting to piss me off

<adamjm> rip their hair out

<Pau|B> trademark your name

<MikeSouth> theres only ONE REAL Zoe though

<Elf69> cheyenne is great cause she is young, girl next door type, nasty and all natural

<MikeSouth> I would LOVE to direct Zoe

<adamjm> most girls next door don't do porn

<GregSteel> its ok zoe, there are to many people in the biz that call themselves "directors" & that makes me laugh

<MikeSouth> she is so model pretty

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<zoexxx> yeahn but the other zoes are getting all my dance gigs and f---ing it up

<MikeSouth> make her the Playboy Centerfold who does great sex type

<J0HNG0TTI> are they?

<Elf69> shay sweet could have been great but she doesn't seem to be very entusaistic and those plastic tits really ruined it for me

<zoexxx> lol greg

<MikeSouth> yer right greg...sad as that is

<MikeSouth> Chuck Martino ruined Shay

*** J0HNG0TTI is now known as Z0EXXX

<Elf69> why did allysa love leave and who is going to bring her back god she was hot too

<Z0EXXX> to many people using my name

<zoexxx> i should take out an ad saying that I am the TALL blonde that is not anorexic

<MikeSouth> the story is that Alyssa was with Jef Hickey

*** J0HNG0TTI is now known as LukeF0RD

<LukeF0RD> lol

[LilOrphisAnnie SOUND]

<adamjm> luke have you ever had sex with a dog?

<LukeF0RD> yes i have

<JT27> I love that Zoe

<lilorphisanniessleeptoy> ya Luke have you ever had sex with any animal?

<LilOrphisAnnie> lol

<LukeF0RD> hmm a canarie once

<l-keford> no

<LilOrphisAnnie> someone log it and send it to gene

<lilorphisanniessleeptoy> Luke izzat how you got the nickname needle dick Nick the bug f---er?

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<DaddyNoBucks> Luke has it ever occured to you that you a retard?

<LukeF0RD> yes im quite famous for it in australia

<lilorphisanniessleeptoy> hell if Lukes a retard he fits right in with todays porn crowd

<LilOrphisAnnie> Luke , do you escort for men?

<LukeF0RD> bug ficking is quite the rage

<DaddyNoBucks> have you ever done any retarded animals?

<adamjm> if you were young and needed the money it's ok luke

<LukeF0RD> and speaking of rage when in west hollywood do look me up!

<LilOrphisAnnie> i heard he still does it

<LukeF0RD> when in rome

<DaddyNoBucks> Dude, those pictures were taken like, last week!

*** lilorphisanniessleeptoy is now known as MikeSouth

<LilOrphisAnnie> ah so you do anal with men on the corner

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<LukeF0RD> corner, bustops, retail outlets

<MikeSouth> OK y'all know that Mike Alpo tried to sucker Luke again right?

*** LilOrphisAnnie is now known as zoexxx

<MikeSouth> consider this scenario

<LukeF0RD> wherever and whenever

*** DaddyNoBucks is now known as Darth_Whack

<MikeSouth> Luke goes to the meeting strapped ( assuming Luke has a permit)

<LukeF0RD> oh my

<MikeSouth> he meets albo outside the bldg as requested

<zoexxx> luke wears a strap on?

<LukeF0RD> mmmmmm

<MikeSouth> albo comes at Luke and Luke draws on him

<MikeSouth> albo keeps coming so Luke drops him

<MikeSouth> Luke gets arrested

<LukeF0RD> like the dog that he is

<LukeF0RD> bow wow!

<MikeSouth> and becomes the poster boy for both the NRA and the JADL

<adamjm> it'd be self defense

<adamjm> if albo was coming at him and luke only fired once

<zoexxx> and gets gang banged in jail by a bunch of big men with 10 inch dicks

<LukeF0RD> oh my

<MikeSouth> menatime no one wants to say the eulogy for albo

<Darth_Whack> hehehe, get Rob Black to film that one

<MikeSouth> Brandy pipes in and says she'll do it

<LukeF0RD> now brandy... why must you bring up lost loves?

<MikeSouth> finally Farrell Timlake agrees to say the eulogy and all of Xplor media attends the funeral...nobody else....gene ross says he meant to attend

<MikeSouth> meantime LFP gets sued by Luke

<Torris> He was getting his toupee reskinned at the taxidermist

<LMack> bedtime, bye folks

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<adamjm> hehe torris

<MikeSouth> and the ownership changes but the initils stay the same

<MikeSouth> Luke sells the movie rights

<MikeSouth> but on the condition that Luke plays himself

<adamjm> seems like you've given this alot of thought mike......

<MikeSouth> now Luke becomes a movie star and a sex symbol

<MikeSouth> I am making it up as I go adam

<Torris> Luke F-rd center fold in Twink Magazine

<adamjm> hehehhe

<LukeF0RD> im to sexy for my shoes....

<MikeSouth> and luke foregoes Jusiaism for Dianetics

<adamjm> BigBear Magazine

<MikeSouth> theres a whole movie there....lets do it JimmyD

<LukeF0RD> i like bears]

*** LukeF0RD is now known as JOHNG0TTI

<JOHNG0TTI> lol

<Torris> Luke F-rd spreads it for Joey Silvera's Pimpled Ass She Males

<zoexxx> so why is almost everyone in porn mean to each other anyway

<MikeSouth> zoe....thats a good ?

<Torris> Zoe: all the bounced checks

<adamjm> torris: do i wanna know why or how you know the shemales have pimples on their asses?

<JT27> Mike: it was believeable up to the sex symbol part

<MikeSouth> JT...Luke does surprisingly well with pornchicks

<adamjm> to each his own

<MikeSouth> he becomes a millionaire and Kendra decides she wants him back

<Torris> Hey Mike South: Charles Manson was a babe magnet too

<JOHNG0TTI> such ballance in nature

<zoexxx> whos a millionaire

<MikeSouth> torris...so was Ted Bundy

<jimmyD> luke was who i was on the phone with for the past hour...luke and NJG

<J0HNG0TTI> <adamjm> luke have you ever had sex with a dog?

<J0HNG0TTI> <LukeF0RD> yes i have

<jimmyD> NJG wants to have sex with me

<J0HNG0TTI> would you turn her into a bad jewish girl?

<Mastofact> Taija Rae

<jimmyD> zoe, do you prefer long, slow, deep licks with the flat of my tongue, or them quick butterfly flicks on your clit?

<J0HNG0TTI> i saw her 8 yrs ago she was a bad speed freak

<zoexxx> long

<J0HNG0TTI> shes giving in jimmyD

<Mastofact> damn JG

<J0HNG0TTI> looked like s---

<jimmyD> do you like it when i push my index finger under your hood which pushes you clit up and out and then i work it hard with my tongue?

<Mastofact> and i liked watching her on camera

<zoexxx> neither from you

<J0HNG0TTI> like i would kick herout of bed for eating bread though

<zoexxx> lol

<jimmyD> i struck a nerve

<jimmyD> she dint realize i knew that little trick

<J0HNG0TTI> or more then just a nerve

<zoexxx> you like it when i am mean to you

* DirtyBob euphorically imagines himself in Tampa, about to receive an awesome LAP DANCE from ZOE, but it never happens 'cause Zoe can't break a hundred. Ratz.

<J0HNG0TTI> lol

<Jeromalex> does anyone wanna exchange pix

<jimmyD> that guy l-keford does

<J0HNG0TTI> yes i threw th rap party for elegant angels at the viper room

<jimmyD> he wants to trade

<Mastrick> Toby produced a vid for Elegant about two summers ago - refer to the RAME archives back when Van Damage and South parted ways with Patrick

<J0HNG0TTI> ask him for pix

<Darth_Whack> yeah, he's looking for beastiality pix

<jimmyD> s---...i was at that party

<DirtyBob> let's see if we get an automated response when I say Luke

<adamjm> elegant angels was a hell of alot more original then 99% of s--- that's put out as features

<J0HNG0TTI> downstairs at the viper?

<jimmyD> yeah

<jimmyD> in that little tiny f---ing bar

<J0HNG0TTI> coral and randi rage were their

<J0HNG0TTI> and greg alves

<J0HNG0TTI> i was sitting with steve jones

<jimmyD> yeah..i know...and im pretty sure i had deva station up on the bar with her legs spread

<J0HNG0TTI> probably

<jimmyD> i dont know steve jones

<DirtyBob> she was waiting for DB to give him a lap dance. . .

<jimmyD> i dont thihk

<J0HNG0TTI> toby is a big wall of voodoo fan

<J0HNG0TTI> steve jones=sex pistols

<jimmyD> yeah..i rmember greg and coral were there

<jimmyD> radi was there and her ex rommie whose now in the biz, uh.. barret moore

<adamjm> you meet alot of people from bands gotti?

* J0HNG0TTI met jimmy d at a really bad orgie shot at some house for micky blank

Torris: Hey Ramsey, Don't be fooled by Luke's little trolling. We all know that Ford has absolutely no informed opinon on the merits of any porn performer. Isn't his 15 minutes up quite yet?