Sunday, October 24th, 1999
Porner Mad Jack ran into Sasha Gabor's lawyer while playing blackjack at the casino Treasure Island in Las Vegas Saturday night. The ex federal prisoner and ex prosecutor spent six hours together. Andrew Reed Flier, a 35 yo ex Los Angeles assistant District Attorney, got Sasha off after only 23 days in jail.
Greg Steel:
Howard Stern Leaves Wife, Porn Chicks Line Up
XXX writes: l-keford.com goes on record today October 24, 1999 with the following prediction: that Howard Stern will commit suicide in Y2K, partly due to an intolerable personal situation brought on by his divorce, partly due to exposure of his secret sex lies which will now become public, and partly due to psychological reasons exacerbated by his longstanding problem with obsessive-compulsiveness which will become intolerably worse as we approach Y2K.
John writes on alt.fan.howard_stern: That explains why Luke F-rd is so insanely jealous of Howard. Jews are the most self-absorbed, desperate-for-attention group of people around. Seeing as how successful Howard has been in getting attention, I have noticed that it's other Jews who are the most jealous and hate Howard because of that.
Porn chicks are lining up to do Howard Stern now that he is separating from his wife.
From the AP: Howard Stern's double life as stripper-loving shock jock and rock-solid family man has seemingly come to an end, with Stern and wife Alison announcing late Friday they are splitting up after 21 years of marriage.
According to reports in New York papers, the Stern separation is a result not of Howard's incessant on-air lusting after big-breasted, clothes-eschewing guests, but rather his workaholic ways. There's the syndicated radio program, the two TV shows--one for CBS, one for E!--and a list of projects in development that includes additional series, books and movies. While the busy slate earns the "King of All Media" upwards of $20 million a year, it doesn't make for quality family time.
As anyone who's ever listened to his morning show, read his autobiography, or seen Private Parts knows, Howard considered himself a devout family man and always professed his love for Alison, because she married him when he was still a struggling, gangly dee-jay, years before he became radio's pioneering shock jock. In fact, Private Parts (the book) was dedicated to his wife "who stuck with me through thick and thin...who loved me before I had a radio show."
After four years of courting, Howard married the former Alison Berns--then a social worker--in 1978. They stayed together as he bounced from Connecticut to Detroit to Washington, before landing in New York. Alison often became a grudging participant to the raunchy radio proceedings, phoning in to contradict Howard's complaints about their sex life. The only time the joking really got out of hand was after Alison's miscarriage when Howard made cracks like, "We got him in formaldehyde. Just because he's in a bottle doesn't mean he can't have a life of his own." He later apologized to his wife on-air about the remarks.
Deborah Gwin: The New York Post will report on Monday that Shock Jock Howard Stern's separation from his wife of 21 years was prompted by Stern's longstanding psychological problems. According to sources close to Stern, the radio personality has been undergoing treatment for "compulsive disorders". The Post will also report that custody of the couple's children will be shared "until Howard sorts out his lifestyle." Though rumours of Stern's ambivalent sexual preferences have swirled about for some years, sources deny that Stern's sexual leanings played any part in bringing about the separation.
Melgen wrotes Sept 14: THE TABLOIDS ARE WORKING ON A STORY ABOUT HOWARD STERN SEPARATING FROM HIS WIFE, POSSIBLE TO DIVORCE SOON...LOOK AT THE EVIDENCE: HOWARD SPENDS ALMOST ALL HIS TIME AT HIS NEW APARTMENT IN THE CITY WHILE WIFE/FAMILY LIVE OUT ON LONG ISLAND...WIFE USED TO CALL IN (OR VICE VERSA) ON RADIO SHOW ALL THE TIME, SHE HASN'T BEEN ON IN MONTHS, ALMOST A YEAR...RARELY MENTIONS WIFE UNLESS OTHERS BRING UP...THEN CUTS OF CONVERSATION...STERN IS SEPARATED NOW, BUT CAN'T ADMIT IT CAUSE MAKES HIM LOOK LIKE HYPOCRITE, WHICH HE CONTINUALLY CRITICIZES OTHERS FOR...WHAT WIFE PUTS UP WITH HUBBY GOING TO STRIP CLUBS? s--- IN STUDIO PART OF THE SHOW, BUT NOT STRIPS CLUBS AFTER HOURS...ALSO, STORY IS STERN IS "OWNED" BY THE MOB, THEY GET A CUT OF HIS EARNINGS & HE STAYS ALIVE AND WORKING...CLOSE ASSN. BETWEET STERN AND MOB OWNED STIP CLUBS...EXPECT STERN TO BE FOUND FACE UP IN A GUTTER WITH A BULLET IN HIS HEAD WITHIN 2 YEARS
NJG opines: I don't think Howard loves women. He loves the "idea" of women, breasts and vaginas. He's not into women and how they really feel otherwise he wouldn't treat women the way he does on the show. If he really loved women he would be more respectful of their feelings. He loves to fetishize women. He loves the idea of sex with women, but women as people? Women as intelligent beings? Not really. Other than Robin possibly. I realize he rakes everyone over the coals on that show, but when it comes to women he only thinks of them as body parts.
NJG phoned Luke Saturday night: "Howard's separation, the porn industry response. You need interviews with Kendra and Jenna and all the chicks he's had big crushes on... And who they think the first post marital f--- will be?
"Where have you been, we should've reached all these people earlier in the day?"
Luke: "It is the Sabbath. I don't do worldly labor on the Lord's day because I am a Jew."
We call Kendra Jade.
Kendra: "Where have you been? I've called you twice..."
NJG: "Kendra, did you hear about Howard?"
Kendra: "No, what?"
NJG broke the news.
Kendra: "Are you f---ing kidding me? I've got to go hook up with him."
Luke: "He'll just use you Kendra."
Kendra: "I don't care. He's rich. I was just up on stage shaking my ass for money."
Luke: "I'll take care of you Kendra. You won't have to do that anymore."
Kendra: "With all your f---ing riches?
"This is awesome. I will have to call him now. When did this happen?"
NJG: "Remember when he bought that condo for $5.9 million? I think it happened then."
Kendra: "I totally agree. I've always thought that. Because they don't want it public with the kids... Because I know that he does things that don't necessarily go on the air.
"I know that I was under his console and I was very much really touching him."
Luke: "You were touching the real thing?"
Kendra: "Yeah, it was on the air."
Luke: "Do you think he was always faithful to his wife?"
Kendra: "No. If I was in his position and I had pretty chicks hitting on me... Not just porn stars but really pretty chicks like stars... Not people who f--- on film but legitimate hardworking people, I think I would probably fall into temptation."
Fred writes: Your conversation with Ms. Jade re Mr. Stern was interesting. So she finds out that Howard Stern left his wife, and she wants to get in touch with him immediately, because he's rich. Doubtless he is rich. But how does this translate into any benifit to Ms. Jade? Does she want to marry Stern? Does she want to offer her sexual services to Mr. Stern for money? Is she hoping for valuable gifts from Mr. Stern? What in the world is her game plan, and how does she think that Stern's wealth will benefit her?
I'm not criticizing her, or even moralizing. I'm just curious about her "business plan", and how a gold-digging attractive woman plans to capitalize on her assets. Anyway, I wish her the best of luck. You ought to report on her efforts and her successes. If she wants to practice, or go for a few dry runs before pouncing on Mr. Stern, I'm more than willing to assist and even coach. I'm surprised you haven't yet told her about the famous Ford estate and the famous Ford Trust Fund. Why are you keeping this woman and NJG in the dark? You sly devil, you.
Luke: I'm shy.
Fred: Just out of curiosity, how much wealth does it take to get Ms. Jade's interest? Does $5 million cut it? A mere $1 million? (Of course, $1m in silicon valley is not very much--it barely buys a 3-bedroom house in Palo Alto. I assume in LA, $1m goes further.) Posting this information on l-keford.com will be a great service.
It's sort of like posting market rates for stocks, commodities or real estate, and will help thousands of male professionals know when they've "made it." Guys out in the mid-west, going through mid-life crises, will know when they're in a position to leave Des Moines, sell the house, get a BMW, drive to LA, and go cruising for the likes of Ms. Jade. We can post the monetary requirements for the various starlets. Heck, maybe some day the Wall Street Journal will have a section on their commodities page, somewhere between gold futures and pork bellies. What do you think?
Kendra phoned me at 7PM while driving down Crenshaw Blvd in South Central Los Angeles (spark point of the LA Riots) with her roommate Tony Everready.
Jade was incensed at Fred's letter, and said her remarks Saturday night about calling Stern were just jokes.
Kendra: "If all I was concerned about was money, I certainly wouldn't be in the industry that I am in. I don't know what I would do... I was joking. Why does everybody take everything I say out of context? I think it's horrible and sad that Howard broke up with his wife..."
Luke: "Have you talked to him yet?"
Kendra: "No, why would I?"
Luke: "To offer your condolences?"
Kendra: "And ask him for some of his fortune too?
"I've been shaking my ass on a stage... And just flew in to Los Angeles two hours ago. Tony Everready decided to take me to the Crenshaw - Slauson swap meet."
Fred writes: Please offer Ms. Jade my humble apologies for offending her. 'Twas merely a jest on my part. "If we offend, it is only with our good will." W. Shakespeare
Annabel Chong in Sweden
Linda Thoren writes: Stockholm Filmfestival has invited Annabell Chong to Stockholm as a guest during the festival since they gonna show her documentry. Swedish media has now going compleatly mad -- it isn't politicly correct to use taxmoney (the city of Stockholm sponsors the event) to invite pornstars. I attach a clip from the swedish newpaper Aftonbladet. http://wwwa.aftonbladet.se/noje/9910/19/porr.html
J.D. Considine writes: "Did Ms. Thoren mention that Aftonbladet is the New York Post of Sweden? Or that sex-related stories are commonplace in its pages? Frankly, the tax-monies-for-sex-movies is a non-issue in Sweden, where the State has been underwriting things Americans would blanch at for years -- like, for instance, birth control for high school girls (who can get the pill for $6 a month from their school nurse). Interestingly, Sweden has one of the lowest teen pregnancy rates in Europe, whereas "wholesome" America has an embarrassingly high teen pregnancy rate. For what it's worth, the Aftonbladet piece referred to in the URL is much less scandalous than your item suggests."
Mike South: Jeanna Fine looks like a man IMHO.
XXX says: Stripper agent Lowell Smith approached casino host Tony Monteleone at the Rio and brought slicks of a bunch of porno stars. And Smith said, Tony, I'll make a deal with you. I'll take care of you if you let me have bachelor parties up in the suites.
XYZ: Smith used every girl he could with Tony... He's used JR Carrington and her sister, though she just did $100 handjobs... We all know this happens at all the casinos... Lowell pimps bachelor parties including his ex-wife Bunny Bleu, and Tawny Ocean...
Smith denies the charges.
Andy, who introduced Luke to homeopathy with stunning results, writes: It would be a lot funnier if it wasn't something so serious to me. Who will take you or homeopathy seriously after that? You're not the ideal poster boy, posing with a gun.
Mediashow@aol.com writes: I produce a public access show here in NYC called MEDIA SHOWER and I specialize in showing weird, fascinating video clips of all kinds. I have sometimes shown porn bloopers, and they are invariably the most popular clips among the viewers. Do you have any porn bloopers? I will trade for them.
Music critic J.D. Considine writes about Friday's interview: NJG's intro was very flattering. But I wonder -- what was I wearing?
NJG replies: J.D. Considine was wearing a Johnny Cash black cowboy shirt, like the punx used to wear in the 80's, medium tight black jeans, black belt and black pointy cowboy boots, with a black cowboy hat. We were all piled into Luke's and NJG's only car, a big ol' beaten up oldsmobile from 60's, with no insurance, and since Luke doesn't have a license anymore, it's in my name, even though I can't drive. The car is kind of beaten up on the outside just slightly with a great engine that Luke, my suitcase pimp husband always works on. J.D. insisted on driving the car and once we got in for the ride, he FLOORED IT!
Matt writes: hi luke who is amanda rain, this is the first time i got a look at her and i like what i see. i wouldn't mind getting to "know" her a little better. she has the girl(that u want to nail ) next door look.
XXX: boy i tell you, these lifecams are a rip off. $15 a month and for what? to watch shanna do her homework every night. the girl on abbytv is nothing to look at, and you can see her implant scars. coupletv aint bad but they keep blacking out the camera or turning it away. shanna has this s--- on her site about charging $15 per month because she wants people really interested in her life, but her life is sitting on the couch or on her bed reading or watching tv. very boring.
Porn star Claudia DeCorazon does escort work. Check out: http://www.thatmall.com/exotic/
Lene Hefner also offers her services. See http://www.thatmall.com/lene/
Hefner writes: Hi my name is Lene', I am a Playboy centerfold and Penthouse Pet. I have graced the cover of over 50 major men's magazines as well as being a Vivid Video player for years. Additionally, I cheered professionally for the Raiders. I am a busty and beautiful blonde with a friendly nature and a faabulous sense of humor. Give me a call.... you'll be glad you did! Lene' (818) 995-2425
Plot Driven Porn
David Aaron Clark writes on RAME: As an active propogator of plot-driven porn, I take exception that the idea that story is NEVER important to porn or its most utilitarian function. Speaking personally -- and yes, I'm jaded, from ten years of professional reviewing before getting into directiing -- though there's plenty of times when I want a fast food jerk-off and will happily settle for a COCKSMOKERS segment or a brief Max Hardcore ritual disbasement, I enjoy the pyschology of lust and/or debasement, and enjoy the tease and provocation of being drawn into the action on screen in a much deeper way. Of course, this doesn't excuse the mentality in the "classy" end of the biz, particularly prevalent at VCA and Vivid, that the sex is just something to put in between showing what "great" directors and production designers we could all be if only we were making real movies ... I think the holy grail of porn as both a tool and an art form is the perfect marriage of content and heat, whether in a traditional narrative format or not. This was the original promise of the poorly named "gonzo," which was most fully realized, IMHO, by Joey Silvera in some of his Butt Rows and John Leslie in his Voyeur and Fresh Meat series.
Rexl writes: Actually, I just wanted to say that I have enjoyed reading this thread, and lattara is becoming one of my favourite posters in this group. I hope he and Riley will not grow tired of this sparring that has provided so much entertaining reading.. But I suppose I have to say something on-topic also, so let's go... Concerning plotted porn, I believe there is a harmful tendency to handle the plot and the sex as separate elements.
Based on my limited viewing, the requirements of a formula porn seem to be that there have to be at least five sex scenes per movie, lasting between 10 and 20 minutes each. So taking 5 scenes at an average of 15 min per scene, the sex will take at least 75 minutes of the movie, leaving that much less for plot development. These scenes often come as unmotivated additions, when seen from a storytelling perspective. This is typical of Private's plotted movies, as well as the Vivid flicks I have seen (although the Vivid ones didn't really have that much of a plot). Mainstream-style storytelling hardly ever works to suit my requirements in the porn flicks I have seen, although there are such exceptions as Robert McCallum's Amanda By Night, which on the other hand might be considered too tame by today's standards. What I usually find to work better is the vignette approach, where the sex scene is the story.
Of the porn I have seen more or less recently I liked Cameron Grant's Shameless Desire for this reason. At least the first scene with Jill Kelly and the one with Mila and the one with Nici Sterling and Tom Byron attempt to build a kind of scenario with the setting and dialog that the viewer can conceptualize. The John Leslie and Joey Silvera flicks that David Aaron Clark mentions in this context might be more of what I am looking for: however I have seen only one of Leslie's Voyeur flicks, and the video quality of the copy I saw was near-unwatchable - no doubt the fault of the Euro distributor - and I recall it had some odd lighting choices (backlighting with bright sunlight) which made some of the action hard to follow. Or am I thinking of some other video?
Bonobo Imperative
Dr. Susan Block writes: On Saturday night, November 6, 1999, starting at 10 PM (PT), “The Dr. Susan Block Show” will focus on the amazing bonobo chimpanzees who use sex to diffuse violent tensions in their communities.
Dr. Tony Rose, director of the Biosynergy Institute and its Bushmeat Project (which aims to stop the hunting of bonobos and other endangered species) will be the featured guest. Dr. Block will talk with Dr. Rose about the extraordinary sexuality and peaceful nature of bonobos (who, like common chimps, are 98% genetically similar to humans, but who have a much more extensive sex life than common chimps and have never been seen killing other bonobos in the wild or captivity), as well as their dire predicament as a highly endangered species. They will also discuss what Dr. Rose calls “profound interspecies events,” epiphanies in which a person suddenly realizes his or her deep connection to another species.
Dr. Susan Block, sex therapist, host of HBO’s "Radio Sex TV" and author of "The 10 Commandments of Pleasure," has been a bonobo advocate since 1994. She believes that people can learn a lot from studying what she calls “The Bonobo Way of Peace through Pleasure,” and that it is urgent for all concerned human beings to help in whatever way we can to prevent the extinction of our Great Ape “kissin’ cousins” in their native habitat of the Congo.
Bourgeois Values
Pat Riley writes on RAME: Bourgeois, a pejorative in some circles, simply means middle-class values and does not imply that I like the movie at all, just that it grossly shares the basic premises as to the relationship between males, females, families, work, children, etc..
Let's try some middle-class values, most of which seem to be in short supply around here (insert the word "most" in front of everything; I'm not going to argue if you find some tiny exceptions):
Males are jealous of their (SO, wife, date, etc) girl. They do not want--and certainly don't want to know about--any other male encroaching on their property.
Females are jealous of their (same as above) male. They too don't want any other female encroaching on their property.
Jealousy causes (it's genetic, not learned) much angst and possibly a violent reaction--the above two wipe out any three way, four way, gangbang beloved of which group?--and generally lead to mistrust and maybe disassociation (divorce etc).
Males recognize that women exploit them and use them as support objects. Males do not hate females for this but, like the rising and setting sun, simply see it as a fact of life. Even more, they make use of the support desire of the females by, at a simplistic level, exaggerating their status.
Females recognize that males are attracted to their bodies, faces etc and work on these attributes to present themselves at their best. They also realize that they can manipulate the males by using or denying sex. Males regard this also as a fact of life.
Both genders realize that they only have a certain amount to sell and have to balance the ideal with what they can realistically achieve. Both genders accept this fact and try to work with what they've got, reserving the ideal for their personal fantasy world (Brad Pitt for the girls; [insert your favorite female] for the males). Married people who fail to accept this find their marriages ending in divorce.
Males eventually tire of the single life (there are other reasons) and get married using the parameters above. Females also wish to marry and choose the best male they can attract. Females desire to breed and raise children. Males may also desire this or at least acquiesce in it.
Parents recognize they have a responsibility to children and hence the marriage. Both genders disapprove strongly of the production of children outside of marriage.
Males regard hookers as a blight on society and the patronizing of such as an indication of the male's failure to be able to attract any worthwhile female. Females regard hookers as unfair competition.
If it's not obvious from the above, males neither need nor want to degrade females. Since females are not likely to want to be degraded, such activities are not going to provide more or better sex, and anyway if this occurs during the sex act, the male is simply degrading (reducing in value) his own property. Males regard calling the girl pejorative names (slut, whore, bitch, etc), as well as giving the bitch a facial as degrading.
Both genders have been through proper toilet training and have been taught to wash their hands after using the bathroom. They have no desire to allow bodily fluids or waste matter to pass from their body to another's except the transfer of semen to the female's reproductive tract, the associated fluids emanating from her, and saliva during kissing. Drooling, vomiting, defecating, GS's, etc are out.
Both genders regard the sex act as something private between a male and a female, not to be performed in the presence of another. They are equally reticent about performing the disposal of bodily waste in public however the latter, subject to certain ritual, has become acceptable for males. Defacement of the body as in tattooing, piercing and breast enhancement is seen as such although I'll grant that, due to the pernicious influence of the media, there has been some relaxation in this area, particularly concerning boob jobs.
Just as mainstream movies show murder as an interesting and aberrational event--one that should be punished or resolved in some manner consistent with middle-class values--so porno movies can show rape, incest etc so long as they are similarly resolved. One can take a guilty pleasure in the event but is becomes repulsive if it is seen as "situation normal".
As I understand it market research in the porn industry consists of putting out a minor variation on a current idea and seeing if it sells. If it does, you make lots of them; if not, you haven't lost much.
The industry has an interest in showing that it is producing "loving, caring sex" used as marital aids by couples so as to fend of the image that it's catering to a leering solitary male in a darkened room jacking off to a flickering image on a screen. It also uses "couples" rather than females because of the inconvenient facts about the lack of female presence in most video stores, Ms. Mulatto notwithstanding again. While you occasionally have people on this NG requesting advice on an acceptable movie to watch with the SO and I even get snail mail to that effect from time to time, they're far outnumbered (in the 95%+ range I would guess) by males who are obviously watching alone.
I don't believe (believe = gut feel, not provable) that there's a corelation between lack of intelligence and raincoaterism but the corelation is between (mainly) social status and raincoaterism. It's just that those most affected by the changing social status of males are clustered in the bottom strata of society and this happens to also contain the least intelligent. Susan Faludi has some interesting anecdotal descriptions in "Stiffed" which tend to support a rising societal level and therefore intelligence among the disaffected males.
Hymns Just For You
NJG writes Luke: Jewhoo.com doesn't list you, you know that? Maybe you should write them and tell them that you are l-keford.com, and dammnit you ARE jewish, even though you don't ACT like a jew, nor LOOK like us. Love, your f---ing wife wish I could take you to the cleaners like Allison is gonna to Howard.
Luke: I've been bothered by headaches since Thursday afternoon. So Saturday night I retired to bed at 10 PM to listen to a CD I just checked out from the Beverly Hills public library by Sandi Patti, "Hymns Just For You."
There's no doubt that the Christians have far better music. There's nothing Jewish that holds a candle to Handel's Messiah. And Christians have far grander churches, with far more beauty, than any shul.
It's getting cool now in Los Angeles, and the brisk 45 degree temperature, combined with lying in bed listening to hymns brought back a flood of memories. Primarily of the happiest years of my life, those I spent at the Seventh Day Adventist Pacific Union College in California's Napa Valley.
Probably not a day goes by without my flirting with full observance of Jewish Law and becoming "orthodox." It would be a return to the sturdy morality and purity and close communal life I had growing up as a son of a preacher daddy and his cancer ridden mommy.
By the way, I hate you all.
Now, I could never become pure and orthodox, and could never return to Adventism, but I am glad I came from a tradition with strictures that gave me something to rebel against.
Hayim Goldstein writes Luke: I do not have a very high opinion of the native born american jewesses I have come across in this country; for some reason, jewish women have never like me, so it is a perfect match. I end up going out with shiksas, who while not as bright (and yes, this is a racist comment - don't tell the goyim, but most jews really ARE racists, even if they do not know it), have better attitudes about life and are not as infected with feminist ideas, which have lead to the very low birth rates among american jewish women. (when it comes to birth rates, only women count). You can see that NJG and I likely would not have much common ground for a pleasant discussion. Persian jewesses (are they Aryan?) seem like almost perfect japs, as they come from the ruling elite of persia under the shah (I am guessing). Of course, as I mentioned before, I have yet to actually meet one of them, and probably never will. I dunno. Who else can we talk to? That doggie chick? I wonder, does she ever turn guys down? Can you imagine being a guy who wants to have sex with a woman who will f--- a dog, and she turns you down? What a bitch!
Or that Kendra something - did she do a gang bang? Is she mentally ill? (Serious question - don't you have to be mentally ill to do something like that?)
Dr NJG writes: Luke, here is my prescription for your CFS, which I also suffer from. You should get some unfiltered apple juice from the health food store. Unless you suffer from diabetes, which I don't believe, you will get tons of energy from unfiltered and organic apple juice.
Fire your homeopath. For the most part I don't think their remedies work well at all, I have tried their stuff, I have the materia medica here, I have at least 7 books on homeopathy. Forget it. Doesn't really work, you just such a "believer" in stuff. But your homeopath really hasn't helped you has she? If she did, you wouldn't be tired in the afternoons and have to sleep for 2 hours. You cannot drink the Safeway brand, get it from the health food store only.
Also, instead of spending your hard earned $$ on homeophathy, which doesn't really work, get yourself a microwave oven for that stuffy box you live in. Did you buy it yet? No? Didn't think so. Since you and me both don't do alcohol/drugs/cigarrettes/caffeine, and we both have CFS and other ailments, I can guide help you . I know how to fix most stuff, I have at least 50 books on herbs, including a couple on herbal abortions. My apt. shelves are overflwing with herbal/homeopathic/vitamin/natural supplements and pills. I have read tons.
And, my mother, whom you SHOULD SEE in Las Vegas, when you go there, is a certified herbalist/nutritionist. She used to have her own natural health radio show in L.V. btw, and is the main nutritionist-herbalist-supplement consultant at the biggest health food store in Las Vegas. She has people who make appointments to see her and pay her big money. So, maybe just maybe, for ONE SECOND in your life you should LISTEN TO ME. BTW, I know as much or more than mommy-dearest. I grew up on health food.
Oh forgot. I'm gonna work on your mental problems too. Unfortunately I understand those too. We're gonna start on your father. That's where it all stems from. Don't lie to me Luke. We're gonna have a lot talks about this.