Tuesday, July 27th, 1999
Luke F-rd in Rolling Stone
Torris writes on RAME (newsgroup rec.arts.movies.erotica): "This is their Hot Issue where Rolling Stone trots out their preferred things that those who are really hip have long since trashed as passe. In Hot Matt Drudge it lists Luke F-rd. I won't spoil the ending but it shows a picture of him between Raylene and a skank from Action Sports Sex 3 [Randi Rage]. With his smooth, sunken chest and clean cut boyish looks (33 yrs of age who looks more like he'd get carded at R movies), I think he's missed his calling as a twink in gay films."
Nice Jewish Girl replies: "You know Luke, you are becoming way too egotistical. And that guy that says you look like a twink, well that's only in photos. Luke does NOT look like a twink in real life. IMO he looks his age (33) and the longer he stays in porn and dipping into the pool as it were the more it's going to age him till one day...he's really gonna look as bad as the other guys in porn.
"And this Luke as the messiah thing...give me a break! I know
from experience
"Just out of curiosity, when you look at a woman do you see her or do you see her naked in your head? Does being involved with porn to this extent make a guy look at a girl and only see her without her clothes, do real women have to live up to some ridiculous standards by men because of porn?"
Luke: I see her naked, her head in the toilet, doing ass to mouth while getting sodomized by several well hung black guys. LukeRomps Nude
NiceJewish Girl responds: "I'm feeling quite inspired today. So, if you could answer those questions on your site that would be great. I am seriously curious about this. Because of porn, do guys only see women as naked in front of them? You know, if this is indeed true that is really horrible and sad. And does it matter, like if a guy who is a video addict, or one who just watches it occasionally? Is the addict going to be less inclined to pay attention to what a girl says?"
Luke: Seriously, when I look at women, I frequently fantasize about them naked and what they would be like in various kinky sexual positions. But sometimes I relate to them as full human beings also. Pornography is simply male fantasies acted out. Porno is simply what men think about much of the time. The male imagination creates pornography much more than porno creates the male imagination, though I do believe that use of porno can exacerbate the male tendency to see women as objects for sex.
Fred: "I read your post of NJF's e-mail to you, indicating that porn was going to age you. It kind of reminded me of The Picture of Dorian Grey (by Oscar Wilde). Just explain to NJF that actually, there is a picture of you in your apartment that ages instead of you, so everything's taken care of."
Alan Miles, publisher of International Connections Magazine (www.sin-city.net), writes Luke: "You know....I'm not in the adult video business, but we have ties. We publish the largest swinger magazine and website of the alternative lifestyles by far. We even link to your site. I've known Paul Fishbein for a number of years and he's always been a stand up guy. I've known, and been partners with, many old timers in the adult industry. I have read your site for a couple of months now and can't figure out where you're coming from. Started reading your book today....you should have done more research. That's neither here nor there....don't care. What I really want to say is why do you profess to be so interested in an industry that disgusts you? Why don't you be the first converted-Jew to join Jerry Falwell in his attacks on the adult business? Donate money to Pat Buchanan? There is dirt in every business everywhere. Is that your goal in life? You have done something that I couldn't imagine possible. You are a know-nothing that has really pissed off some very involved people in the adult video industry. What I can't understand is that they are so upset about you. They should ignore you, but they don't. You would never have attained an audience in the 70s. Personally, I think you are a government "plant" and nothing more. Wouldn't surprise me if you were an agent of some agency or the other. I choose not to pay any attention to you anymore. Have a great life!"
Alan Miles writes Gene Ross: "I just sent Luke an e-mail that I doubt he will print....but then he prints everything. I've had a link on our site right next to AVN's and I could care less now. He sent us his book and after reading several portions of it, this guy has no credibility at all. Paul [Fishbein] and I have been "friends" for years. Not asshole buddies, but we talk. I'm into swinger publications and you guys are into video. Fine. But I really think this Ford guy is a government plant or a representative of the Religious Right. An outsider that knows nothing about the industry.
"As a former bookstore owner, in the 70s, I met Thurman, Thevis, Pinkus and a lot of guys. This is a young punk that knows no one that grew up fighting in the trenches. Who talks to this guy? We publish swinger magazines and have been around for a while. Considered low life by some, I could care less. Our people love the adult video industry. Why do you pay so much attention to this Ford guy? Leave him alone and he will wither away -- or report back to whatever law-enforcement agency he works for. I don't trust the bastard.
"If you don't like a subject do not write about it. I said about the same thing in an e-mail to him an hour ago.....but I doubt he'll post it. His book? Geeesh. If I had the time (I have a publisher) to gather enough information on the industry to fill volumes. But what I know, and what others know, is better left unsaid. Most of the stuff I've read lately is stuff that is conjecture and was never said. I check your column every day. Keep it up guy. Oh. And by the way, I have one hell of an interview and photos of John Holmes and Ginger Lynn just prior to John's death. They had some really neat stuff to say about "Linda Lovelace." LOL.
"Have a great day and ignore Luke F-rd. Same ol' s--- about the name Ford.....fix or repair daily. Alan Miles, Connection International Magazine www.sin-city.net"
Jeff Sebens of Larry Flynt Publications writes Gene Ross: "I have a great article to send you in our latest issue of Jail Babes, it's about how Luke F-rd was stalking our Jail Babes party at the Rainbow. It's hysterical!"
Photos of Luke Stalking Jail Babes
A Conversation With Bill Margold
ELASTIN2: HI B Margold: What's up? ELASTIN2: JUST HANGING OUT..WHAT PROJECTS R U WORKING ON B Margold: Of all the things I'm planning, the one I think you'll like the most is a Toybox Lingerie Aution Show set for Dec, 19. ELASTIN2: WHERE WILL IT BE ELASTIN2: I WAS A BIG FAN OF MADISON AND TIANNA..DO U KNOW WHERE THEY R B Margold: At The Toybox in Upland. Just like the "good old days."Bring your one dollar bills and be prepared to take the items off with your teeth. B Margold: Madison is into the music scene and Tianna is l-o-n-g retired. ELASTIN2: Luke F-rd REPORTS MADISON IS A DRUGGIE B Margold: Luke "Edsel" Ford would have everyone doing drugs and going crazy. Madison does what she has to to get by. B Margold: BTW: FOXE NINE will most likely attach itself to Erotica LA's Halloween Party on Oct. 31 at the Universal Hilton.
Mike South Caught in Adultery
Luke has incontrovertible evidence that Atlanta porner Mike South, a pioneer in creating white erotica by white people for white people, two weeks ago engaged in carnal relations with Jewess Delaney Daniels, a married woman.
"If you ain't white, get back," said South by phone... "Yeah, Delaney wrecked me."
Actually, Luke just made up all that dialogue which he inserted into Mike's mouth. South writes to me: "You evil little f---, Now you know I don't shoot whites only porn. I almost married OnyX and Midori and I have been good friends since the day we met, however, I was against shooting Jews....till I met Delaney. You are just Jealous cuz I got Delaney Daniels. BTW I never referred to Delaney as anything less than a doll. she was on time, good natured and very professional as I wrote before. I HIGHLY recommend her."
Hask writes: "Love
the site. The Mike South stuff today is hilarious. Would you turn that
chickie down? Other than the unfortunate Tori Spelling thing going on
around the eyes, that girl's got it going on! Love to see you taking
down the big guys. What was it Shakespeare said? "The pen is mightier
than the sword."
Porn Chat
Mike South:
Luke: atleast it keeps you away from drinking, i have not seen the rs article yet
Heaven and the owner of the Bunny Ranch was to be on the show to promote KJ and Heaven and only KJ got all the air time. I think the Bunny Ranch paid her way there to NY
damn Luke I am worried about you, you get beat up and AVN wants to f--- with you and Vivid wants to f--- with you. When is the madness going to end
I DID fist her...you got the pix
Luke: Fist the cunt, lose the kingdom, Romans 1
"Luke F-rd appears in the latest issue of Rolling Stone" <- eh?
hmmm didn't remember that one from vacation bible school
Since when did Luke F-rd become a significant part of popular culture I ask
Warm, when you see me coming in the clouds of heaven, with Moses on
my right hand and Elijah on my left, then will you no longer doubt me?
Fishbein has always been fair to me...even when I didnt advertise
I don't know if I dare to answer that Luke. I may regret it when The Day comes.
NiceJewishGirl writes to alt.music.gossip: "What's with all the
Rock Stars with Porn Stars these days? It used to be dimwitted models,
now it's dimwitted Porn Stars. F'r instance, Kid Rock and Midori (afr.
am. ps), the lead singer from Korn and his g/f the porn star, Ricki
Rachtman and Janine, etc. And what's with Porn Stars appearing in videos
now? Rap videos, alternative videos, etc. I don't know about you but
it's disturbing, sort of. It makes me think that these guys were wanking
to these videos when they were nobodies and having serious fantasy lives
and no women, then, they become famous and they gotta have that
Mepting replies: "Ok. A basic primer course in rock star psychology for you. Most people who are rockstars have become such because (aside from numerous other factors endemic to the record industry which are too obvious tyo discuss here) They are pretty good at what they do. The reason they have become pretty good at what they do is because when they where in high-school NOBODY LIKED THEM AND THEY HAD PLENTY OF TIME TO PRACTICE. A byproduct of that sort of solitude is the proliferation of some very unrealistic conceptions of sexuality: If you were to lack that ugly, dissatisfying introduction to human sexuality in your teen years, it is reasonable to expect that you might have some fairly unrealistic ideas about what is sexy/attractive. And what is more of an epitome of wrongheaded sexuality than a porn star. I'm not suggesting that you should pity these people, but that you should at least recognize the source of the behavior and place you comments within a more comprehensive context."