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Tuesday, June 15th, 1999

Erotica LA

Gordie, creator of www.maxhardcore.com writes: Erotica L.A. Has got to be the most lack-luster show I've ever seen; in any catagory. We (Max Hardcore and clan) arrived to do some interviews and such for an upcoming reel. First of all, its less than 25% women... who count, and the rest basically a bunch of fat and homely guys walking around. Sure there are some standouts... about 2%.

We got kicked out and were refused to collect the rest of our crew in the process. Max had touched someone's ass, and, I guess, there's "no touching" at the show... an erotica show! We did more on the street just outside the place than in the show! E-Prude L.A. is what it should be called.

Then, as we were trying to collect ourselves and figure out what to do next, we were approached by someone to be interviewed about the incident. So, as this was coming together, some stumpy snivelling prick that would give mickey mouse a run for his sexuality barks for his cadre of rent-a-jerks to throw us even further out, whining something like, "I've had enough of this" - hey, get the f---ing implants and get over it already. We were then buzzarded by the LACC's rent-a-jerks while we regrouped and spent over an hour trying to get the rest of our crew out.

Just another low-budget marketing ploy. On top of that, there was a high school graduation going on just next door! And a Women's '99 show just down the hall! Good planning L.A. Convention Center. There were a few guys nervously guiding grads and their families to the correct corridor - many of whom were rather uncomfortable. Even Vegas' CES show had more going on that this farce. Its no wonder that fewer and fewer booths are being erected in this show; the cocks shure arn't. Wanna go to an Erotica show? Go to Germany for Venus '99, they know how to do it right!

Buttman Confidential 2

HIV positive John Stagliano talks about getting f---ed in the ass and catching HIV in his recent release Buttman Confidential 2. From the review at www.cavr.com: "John looking at movies & jerking. She-male footage. Max Hardcore footage. Grainy footage. John giving she-male head briefly, getting head. John rims her. Fingers her ass. John gives her head. John says this is the confidential part. Talks about HIV & getting screwed in the ass."

Other male gonzo makers, aside from Stagliano, enjoy sex with he-shes. Luke estimates that about half of the heterosexual male talent pool has indulged in homosexual sex.

Also in the tape, John talks about his past loves Kristi Lynn and Brandy Alexandre, recently fired from the Forest Lawn Mortuary in Glendale where she'd worked for three years. Forest Lawn recently found out that Brandy had been a porn star.

Recog writes on RAME about Buttman Confidential 2:

I just watched most of the two part Buttman Confidential, and I had to force myself to stay awake on this one. If you plan on renting this two part 4 hour long feature, I would strongly suggest that you indulge in some sort of chemical substance abuse immediately prior to viewing. I have not smoked anything since college, and I suspect that my sobriety hindered my enjoyment of this video. Themes: Stagliano jacking off, Stagliano's life story complete with the "Buttman" philosophy on life, Anal Sex

Scene One Video opens with a fleshy, female with short black hair. John sits on the floor jacking off, showing us closeups of the woman's cottage cheese ass for approximately 15 minutes. During this time, Buttman repeatedly places his hands on the woman's buttocks, and rubs his face on her but while he jacks himself off. No actual sex here at all, and unless you are immediately captivated by this womans derriere, I suggest you fast forward.

Scene Two- Hopefully you heeded my advice and took some hallucinogenic drugs since you will enjoy the next fifteen minutes. Buttman finds several old videotapes, mostly German and a few from some company called Andalusan(SP) in houston, and proceeds to watch them. The camera captures the images as they play on his monitor, and in hindsight all these videos look like they would be alot more interesting that the one I am currently renting. We are next treated to a bizarre kaleidoscope effect of Nikki Anderson private parts. The overall effect was pretty cool at first, but after the first two minutes, it got pretty old to my sober mind.

Scene 3 Buttman in Budapest with Christophe Clark, Nikki Anderson, and a brunette with large natural breasts. We get about five minutes of bum shots, complete with Buttman pawing the girls stocking covered asses. Best line of comes when Buttman asked Christophe to tear a hole in the Brunettes stocking , Christophe does so with his teeth,opening up her genital region, but first says softly,"It's me" to the girl before doing so. Which brings up my whole problem with this video, namely that Buttman's style requires direct interaction between him and the girls. However, because of his HIV status, he can not penetrate the girls, instead he can only grope and pinch at them. If the desired effect was to make Buttman seem a somewhat pitiful character, then he succeeded. The rest of this scene is pretty standard Christophe style anal f---ing, and was pretty good. After this I nodded off, so I missed anything that might of transpired in the remainder of tape , and inserted tape two.

Tape Two Here we have Buttman watching more of the old Joey Silvera videos, and jacking off to them. During this time we are treated to his personal philosophy.We finally get into the sex with a hot brunette in Budapest, with a standin stud. The girl is gorgeous and has that natural tan skin which looks gorgeous year round. Sex starts with the guy fingering her. He gets two fingers in and is pumping pretty vigorously. Then a quick cut, to a blow job for him and some pussy liking for her. A quick cowgirl follows, then followed by finger insertions into her pussy by the guy. We get good closeups of his fingers going in, we get up to two fingers and then cut away to some standard doggie style vaginal f---ing. Somehow, I am left with the feeling that they may have been more fingers in that one, but not in my edit. Then follows a little anal, thankfully without condoms.

The guy in question has a big pigmentation spot on his dick, where one area is noticeably lighter than the others, which is a little distracting, but is a competent swordsman. As an aside, the thing that keeps standing out in the European videos is the smaller cock size of the studs, compared to our standard American swordsmen. The scene ends with a blow job and a facial. Not many gaping anals in this one, so I am slightly disappointed in this scene. John is back watching his old videos and jacking off, smoking his pipe and reminiscing about Kristi Lynn. Then follows what looks like scat tapes from Andulasan videos. We are teased but we don't see anything. Next is the same girl with we see at the opening with short black hair. A guy comes in, does some tricks with a wooden walking can, and then he and the girl start to f---. No anal, and it was fast forward thru this baby for me. Back to John in his room watching porno jacking off. He may have said something very deep here, but it was fast forward for me.

Next comes the very graining scene of him and the Brazilian TV, with brief glimpses of him giving the TTV a BJ. The entire scene is shown in reverse. You see the cars on the street traveling in reverse which again leads me to believe that the scene was probably geared for the altered states crowd. The TV was a pretty boyish blond btw. John shows closeup of her/his ass. and gets a blow job from her/him. John gives her/him a rimjob in hallway.Focus fades in and out and the whole thing is again very grainy, but in terms of shock value, well, let us just say if Rob Black wants to top it, he will have to bottom for Tom Byron.

Next we have Buttman discussing Kristi Lynn in detail, and more of his philosophy of life Last scene is the hottest girl in the tape, a gorgeous german blond. German shows up from an escort agency. We have the standard Buttman stroke her through her clothes thing, but surprise he actually fingers and gets a blowjob from this one. No actual penetration by him, except with dildos . The chick by the way has the most awesome breasts I have seen in a long time. Some pretty nice close ups of her pussy as well, making this the best scene of the entire tape.I can't decide if the tits are fake or real, but I love the way her nipples protrude. This girl is hot, and HIV+ or not, I want to see more of her. I think this is Jessika.. No sign of heaven here, just some rundown,imitation white clouds.

I interviewed Brandy Alexandre Monday afternoon.

Brandy: "My book [biography] is 85% complete. When this happened with Forest Lawn, I got in touch with my literary agent and she suggested that I not sign anything [a gag agreement] either. Not because the publicity will sell more books, but because it provides her with a publicity opportunity that will help her shop it to more publishers. I've sent her three chapters, a synopsis and a table of contents, and she's been shopping that. Maybe we can get an advance so that I won't have to worry about finances.

"The only things I have left to do in the book are the more personal things. I don't think readers would let me get away with not devoting a chapter to John Stagliano. And about my growing up..."

Luke: "How much dish do you give?"

Brandy: "Not a lot. It's not a tabloid style book. It was necessary to dish a bit, in some anecdotes to get some points across. People ask a lot if I had orgasms [on camera]. So I had to give an anecdote about doing a threeway for the movie Shadow Dancers with Steve Vegas and Gregor Samsa. Neither of them could keep it up... I was just trying to get through the scene to make myself look good by making them look good because they always blame the women if the guy is not hard. I had to focus so much on keeping them going... When does a porn star have time to get off herself?"

Luke: "Did you ever get off on camera?"

Brandy: "No."

Luke: "And that would be true of your female peers?"

Brandy: "Yes... I know that ruins the fantasy for people who tell it like it is... I'd compare it to interviews with Hollywood stars shortly before a movie is released. And they say, 'everyone was wonderful, we had a great time...' Would you be interested if you found out the lead actor was a total asshole but it doesn't show on camera?"

Luke: "This Forest Lawn situation seems like something you've been dreading all along. I remember our arguments on usenet about porn stars real names. This is precisely why you believe they should be kept private."

Brandy with a rueful laugh: "This is exactly what I was talking about, you asshole. Question: How do you feel about having done that now?"

Luke: "I'm too much in the middle of it to say..."

Brandy: "Chicken."

Luke: "I don't have joy that you got fired."

Brandy: "I have never shied away from being a pioneer. I was the first woman to write, produce and direct videos. And I got squeezed out of the industry for doing it well. I was the first porn star on the internet and I took a lot flaming and a lot of attacks for that. Being the first porn star fired as a result of cyber stalking, it's not a good place to be. But all these things serve as an example for other people and provide the experience and open the way for people to change their attitudes after they see what happens to the trailblazer. The cool thing about the pioneer is new discoveries, but you know the pioneers are the ones with the arrows in their backs. [rueful laugh]"

Luke: "How many people share the attitude of your company - that porn stars carry a form of contagion."

Brandy: "Someone from Forest Lawn saw the news segment and sent me a private message... He said that I was the most real person at the company. Even though we had only met a couple of times, he really liked me. And he was very sad to hear what had happened. And he too had had problems with Human Resources for stupid little things. I know there is support out there... They can put whatever spin on it they like, but as I said on the news reports, anyone who dwells seriously on my being a porn star should be happy that I am not doing it anymore and that I have a good job. Had..."

Luke: "Are you proud or are you ashamed of your background as a porn actress?"

Brandy: "Neither. It's something I did for work and now I do something else. I don't care how hard the universe, society, tries to make me regret porn. It will not happen. I do not regret anything that I do because all of my experiences are part of who I am today and I happen to like myself. I can't be ashamed. I'd probably put a gun to my head if I did that."

Email: "The call girl ring that was just busted by the L.A. cops has a web site. http://www.caldreamin.com. On this site there are pictures of the girls that are supposedly on the menu. Several of them appear to be porn stars. One is for certain a picture of Britney Andrews. One also looks like Alexandria Nice but I'm not sure."

On Sunday afternoon, Luke stepped outside with director and historian Jim Holliday. He lights up a cigarette. I ask him if multiple girl boxcovers work.

Jim: "The girls out there dancing have told me that they have a much easier time selling one of my boxes, where they are one of 15 or 18 girls on the box, than they have when they are alone on a boxcover from some other company. Whether it is Legend or Metro or whoever.

"Big girl boxes do work. I was told when I started doing them that they will never sell. The newcomers who are also doing 20 girl movies have to learn which 20 girls to put in the movie. That's the difference between selling and selling big.

"This is the first time I have come to Erotica LA. I'm pleasantly surprised. I'm coming back next year. It was rewarding. It's a different kind of interaction. Fans sneak into VSDA and CES even though they are technically not supposed to... Here, being open to all the fans, it starts from the minute I hit the parking lot and smoke a couple of cigarettes out front and already a few fans are coming up and telling me how much they like my movies. And it's been non-stop. I've signed a couple of dozen autographs and you know how reclusive I am. I knew I was popular with a lot of the brothers and asians, but at this show, if the sample is an indication, they like my movies more than I imagined."

Luke: "And what movies have you been working on the last few months?"

Jim: "Eye Candy Refocused came out on the first of June, the sequel to Eye Candy which was released in June of 1998. Later this summer, Very Naughty Angels and Porno Playground. The crew calls them the 'The Jim and Jill [Kelly] Show.' It's not gonzo nor feature, it is in between. We're not trying to be Sonny and Cher or Regis and Kathie Lee, it's just Jim and Jill being whacky. And giving the fans an opportunity to get some realism because the thing is not scripted. It give the fans an opportunity to see Jill and I talk honestly into the camera…and see some good nasty to the point sex.

"I'm going to being shooting the sequel to Car Wash Angels at the end of August. The fans have decided that is my best movie because in its first three years, it's the biggest seller [of any Holliday video three years in]. It still has a way to go before it catches up with some of my older movies which have a lot of legs, but maybe in ten or fifteen years, it may be my all time best seller.

"With Car Wash Angels, I'm going to shoot the fourth in the Jim and Jill series, called Blonde Brigade. And in October, VCA will release Jim Holliday's Nymphomercials. In November, VCA will release (Jim and Jill #3) Trash Talking Coeds. These two were shot in late April and early May. And in December, VCA releases Perfect Puckers and Smiles, and you should let the fans know that it has nothing to do with above the neck."

Luke: "In AVN, Mikey Ramone gave your Brown Eyed Blondes only three stars."

Jim: "The publisher of the magazine believes that the review was low. The review angered some people because my s---tiest movie is better than 80% of the stuff on the market. I'm one of the rare guys (if you read that AVN interview I moderated with the seven directors of the decade) who makes movies for the fans. And my fans are my best critics.

"Because of my background as a reviewer, I've never been afforded a level playing field. Somebody is either going to kiss my ass too much or grudge grind me too much. "When we did that great directors seminar, I asked what motivated people. I got a couple pompous answers and several filled with thought. When it came time for the next question, I said, 'boy, I am a duck out of water. What motivates me is making movies for the fans. I'm all about f--- films. I'm not trying to make any kind of statements.'"

Luke: "Why weren't you included in the directors of the decade?"

Jim: "AVN staff thought that I would be pissed because I was not selected. I get my satisfaction out of this quote: 'If only five directors were allowed name above title status, I'd belong.' And most anyone worth their salt, would agree."

Luke: "Aren't you afraid of talking to me?"

Jim: "Damn near everybody in the business has gone out of their way to warn me about you. But none of them know that I was one of the first people you talked to… And because of what you wrote back then, I decided not to talk to you for two years. But you've shown me you can be objective. And you know I don't talk much to the real world."

Luke: "Are you ever going to have a website?"

Jim: "Sometime after the year 2000. And hopefully we'll do it right."

Luke: "So people will have to be content to read my site?"

Jim: "For the time being… Even though you and I both know that my appearances will be infrequent."

Luke: "So I have the market, for the moment, on Jim Holliday on the net."

Jim: "As long as you don't f--- things up. And you haven't the last two times I've talked to you."

Sex.com Bids For Caesars Palace

LAS VEGAS, June 14 /PRNewswire/ -- Ocean Fund International, a British Virgin Island Mutual Fund and the owner of the world's largest pornographic Internet site, SEX .COM, today submitted a $3.6-billion, all-cash offer to purchase the eight Caesars Locations recently purchased by Park Place Entertainment (NYSE: PPE), formerly Hilton Hotels (NYSE: HLT) and Starwood Hotels and Resorts (NYSE: HOT).

The offer, subject to approval of the gaming commissions in each jurisdiction, includes Caesars Palace, Las Vegas, Caesars Casino, Mississippi, Caesars Atlantic City, New Jersey, Caesars Pocono, Pennsylvania, the River Boat "Glory of Roam," Indiana, Caesars Tahoe, Nevada, Caesars Manila and all Caesars under construction in Africa. The company has pledged an additional $2.5-billion cash for capital improvements of the Caesars locations, including a sports arena at the Las Vegas Caesars Palace.

SEX .COM boasts over 9-million members who pay $24.95 per month for access to the world's largest sex-related Internet site, which receives more than 146-million unique "hits" daily. Advertisers on the 1,000-page-deep porn site pay up to $1.5-million monthly to display their banners. For premium ad-space, there is a waiting list of over one year.

Sir William Douglas, Chairman of Ocean Fund is plain-spoken about the success of SEX .COM, "There are some people in this industry who claim to make a lot of money. In fact, SEX .COM does 86% of the sex-related business on the web. We make more than Penthouse, Hustler, Playboy, and all other major sex web sites combined. I challenge anyone who claims to do more business in this industry to produce auditable numbers."

Ocean Fund's wholly-owned subsidiary, Sand Man Internacional, in cooperation with Mexican telecommunication companies, is investing $100-million in fiber-optic technology to support a telephone, Internet, and cable television infrastructure throughout Tijuana, Mexico. Sand Man intends to give free fiber to every resident and business in the greater Tijuana area.

Douglas expects the acceptance of the offer and gaming commission approval for the Caesars acquisition to move quickly. "We are looking forward with pleasure to making our records available for close scrutiny by the commissions. We are extremely proud of our demonstrated record of success -- we will do no less with the addition of Caesars to the Ocean Fund leisure and luxury-industry portfolio." The Company intends to retain the in-place management staff.

AP: The proposal caught skeptical Starwood officials by surprise. ``We have never heard of Ocean Fund International,'' said Starwood spokesman Jim Gallagher. ``We have no knowledge whatsoever of their purported offer. They have talked to no one here. Their press relations guy said the offer was sent to one of our executives, but that executive has never heard of him.''

``We characterize that as bizarre and we underscore the word bizarre,'' said Jason Ader, a gambling industry analyst for Bear Stearns & Co. ``Our advice to investors is to dismiss this as so much noise. It's not likely to have much credibility.''

Writer, director David Aaron Clark writes on RAME about the closing of Show World:

I was quite anguished to hear from here in L.A. that the landmark of my youth (and later years, even!) had finally succumbed to Guili-nazi.

Too many great and weird memories to list, esp. once I started writing for Screw Magazine and had the run of the place, but one of my favorite is hanging out in front on New Year's Eve with Selena Steele as the ball dropped -- the Show World employees, as they did every year, had to lock and put wooden boards up against the glass doors behind us as the countdown began, and Selena, perched on her boyfriend's shoulders, and my girlfriend and I had no choice but to weather the storm of the ecstatic crowd. That was actually the second NYE that Selena did Show World; the year before she had been more timid and merely stood on the fire escape to hear the cheers after doing a dazzling, dazzling show. It's also the first place I met Tyf Mynx, when she was just a snip of a young thing on her first tour, battling the sniffles. I walked her down to a deli for some chicken soup.

And oh, the wild local girls! The unknown stars, some of them more beautiful than the most revered porn queen, some of them -- well, let's be generous, and leave it at that. And my god, when the basement used to be devoted to she-male booths! What a scene!!!! It actually makes me more sad than angry that there are such uptight, closed-minded people in the world who think that shutting down such a landmark is some kind of victory for the forces of "good." The Times Square where a million guys like me found excitement, entertainment, thrills both cheap and not so cheap, is now without a doubt gone, gone, gone. And the world's much worse for it. Though I realize the absurdity of getting sentimental over the death of a place with booths and sticky floors, I still mourn.

Heaven Leigh's hubby writes to anti-racism activist Mike Paul on the newsgroup rec.arts.movies.erotica (RAME):

First lets get something's straight: 1) This is not Heaven but her husband! 2) Show me anywhere in writing that anyone in the adult entertainment world can be forced to work with said person. 3)The most important point in this, any girl can walk from said contract because no law can force anyone to have sex. The same holds true here with black/white. 4) I don't give a fling f--- about the straight industry, now read this one slow NO ONE IS HAVING SEX IN STRAIGHT MOVIES!!! Now I hope you have that point down I am so tired of you telling all of us that you have called so and so and they said this and that.

Maybe in the straight industry it will not fly but Mike this is not the the straight industry and you have to get that through your thick head. As for Heaven I don't know why she will not do interracial and I am not going to push her to tell me. I am so tired of you pushing your s--- upon others. Also, if my memory serves me right all of this was not started by Heaven it was all over some post to Eden Rae. Will not like her Heaven was true to you all and said " she was not going to do interracial scenes and never once lied to anyone. On the other hand Miss Rae has done nothing but lied from day one. Lets see " I only work with my boyfriend or husband". Funny when was she ever married to Ed Powers or Randy West or Peter North. But to this day its only Heaven you f---ing attack and f--- with.Why because she was honest from day one?

I my self have dated alot of black women and asian women and I have no problem with it. I am asking you to back off of Heaven into you can show me a law and this law is not going to fly with me that governs regular jobs such as industry or working at the area gas station. You show me a law that says that a person has to sleep with said person no matter of religion or skin color. You know as well as I do there is no law that will hold up in any court. One last thing no one and I do mean no one knows who you are or who or what your little club is and what its about. I have talked to alot of the big companies and they have no idea what the f--- you are talking about. I down loaded your post how you was going to call people in the industry and tell of Heaven not doing interracial scenes and guess what Mike they all ready knew that. They have you fill out what you do and don't do. Guess what Mike no one has stopped shooting her in the two years she has filled out one of these papers.

Humm... Mike your little club is full of s--- nothing more then you and a few others trying to take away what many have died to make sure we all have that is freedom to do what we want as Americans. Maybe you should go and get your Nazi clothes on and start a book burning that don't have any black people in it. Hey, lets get all the rappers and burn there stuff I mean kill white cops and kill the crackers yeah that is not a racial thing is it. Then most Spike Lee movies are not all black movies right, and the award show that was just on blacks only. Hey if we as white people had are own show to only have white people to get awards they would shut us down. See, Mike its one big circle and it will never end, and to force one to have sex is RAPE!!! The only way to stop racism sure as hell is not through porn but through are kids. Like Heaven has said " We all bleed red and we well all face the same GOD when we go." Yeah that sounds like a racists to me.

Monday Night's Porn Chat on www.eskimo.com, channel #pornchat, 6667 attracted Brandy Alexandre and her enemy Bianca Trump, Luke, Jim Gunn, Mike South, Matt, and others:

Well, as I told you off record, she has only facilitated me staying home for the same pay, and I guarantee that there will be further compensation for the storytelling yes ok Gee, she a bit defensive, wouldn't you say? too touch issue, staying away... :) lol In truth, she didn't post my work in the same manner FL didn't fire me... hmm As I said in my article, there is no connection. You have to have watched the progression to know they were outting me And yes, I do have the posts

did u report about this story too? a bit did not mention you well ross did I never posted where she works she is putting it on her site ross site the frickin news that it was me and it wasnt now i confrunt her and she just sits there i will report all that cool she is a liar :) f---ing ugly cute here and her f--- Micka post that :0) sorry venting :)

Its bulls---....Berth is upset If you shoot in Eastern Europe you must deal with Mafia or you simply don't shoot i hear private is a cover for an international drug smuggling operation but Private has never been involved with drugs Thats bulls--- you are confusing them with their biggest European distributer Scala? If WalMart sells Rubbermaid bins and Wal Mart is into drug dealing does that mean Rubbermaid is a drug dealer? no, exactly..you have made that mistake with Private I'll keep digging into it..heard it from at least one very powerful connected source...who knows Private well. and then peripheral sources Private have certainly done some things that wouldn't pass your ethics tests however drugs isn't it Mainly involves eastern euro connections I think again you are confusing them with their distributors what do you know about scala and charlie geerts?

Very powerful company ask Teresa teresa who? kowlaski dunno her personaly oh, the german producer, ex porn star? yep she was doing stuff for them ask Peter if he wil ltalk to you all those euro guys deal with Scala thanks however geerts hasn't been heard of for years has he???? he supposedly retired four years ago and sold out BTW do not belive those idiots in Canada about their $50 million per year revenues who says that? Fantasyman claims 60m u do not believe FM? That moron from sex.com claims 150m no way I'd say its much much higher Ron levi is a good guy There is a huge story in the use of offshore credit card processing accounts from adult websites tell me more, so i know enough to ask questions? listern go to sex.com...then go to Cybererotica...if you were a surfer which would you join????? I'd say Cyber is the bigger site yes, I know of webmasters with over US$100 million in undeclared profits sitting in offshore accounts... imagine you had a pay site imagine you let 50% of your sign ups go thru a offshore account you would in effect be able to hide 50% of your profits from the taxman

avn has gone through a bunch of controllers...screws up their billing and payments... One company I talked to. Said AVN asked them for 50 tapes for their award selections... Then, sent 40 tapes back to the company and asked for a refund. A refund for money they never paid out... AVN might confuse Paul's stores in Philly with the mag, etc...

eddie wedelstedt was at erotica la saturday. Was in the hospital sunday.

<> you could plug the chat on your site, you know? :) <> get more heads in here that way <> :) <> "got a beef - come yell to luke on #pornchat - every monday on newnet". <> brandy's gonna talk about her getting the boot for the rest of the year prolly <> I'l be out at VSDA AVN Expo next month with two of my new teenybopper discoeries. I think you'll like them- they look VERY young. I wear condoms in real life a LOT with all the whores I am f---ing so it doesnlt bother me in the movies. <> it is actually a sick sick world, lsb. They shouldve stuck to burying the dead instead of burying the truth... thats my thought on the matter

<> you know who should go into film? tom meadows, shoots for milcap, mainly for pirate magazine. the man is Good. <> Pretty cool having Bianca shove cash in my pockets with my having to beg for it like she did <> Is Bianca Trump any good in her films.... I can't stand her online persona at all! I am just wondering if she at least does the film thing well? <> how is bianca shoving cash in your pockets? <> What's Riley's phrase- "worn out her one-handed welcome"... <> Professionaly, she is good, personally, I always liked her so I think she is better than good. <> michka: I'd say 6 or 7 on a scale of 1-10 <> [Brandy's boyfriend] Well, I have never met her. Maybe she is nice in person. Online (in NGs at least), she is often a bitch, both with and without cause.

<> Lets get one thing very very clear................I never told anyone where the hell you work you stupid whore. OLIVER44 is the one who outed your work. NOT me . I still have the email from him. He told everyone. Jesus I wasn't even in town. So find another witch to burn. YOU where fired for making abusive posts from your work ab bout Diablo. So keep me out of this s---. <> Sorry, BT. Whatever you get in email does not HAVE TO be disseminated to newsgroups. You were the first. Live with it <> prove it <> show me the post <> it was such a calm and peaceful chat just moments ago <> I DID NO post the email from Oliver

<> Produce my post saying where you work <> You cant <> because there isnt one <> we are <> Whatever you say. <> It was all good to taALK about me before I got here * michka pines for the calmer times in this chat <> well now I am here <> lie to my face

* BrandyAlx soothes michka with soft kisses and a grope <> so wheres the post <> um, bianca, calm the f--- down... it was ME asking a question about you <> and she was bragging about how I stuffed her pocckets by getting her fired <> the only thing brandy said is that she has not seen them either... hardly an insulting or crude convo <> Brandy you are a liar..simple as that ..you swear I posted where you work and I didn't. I was never even in town when all this took place. THERE is NO post. None. No where.

<> BrandyAlx : Pretty cool having Bianca shove cash in my pockets with my having to beg for it like she did <> well here I am talk about me to my face. <> Wheres the post Brandy? <> If I did it where did I do it? Show me. * michka guesses she does not want his question repeated <> <> well I am glad everyone was here to see that your a liar <> LUKE report that <> sorry I had to dissrupt the group. My apologies. I get myself into enough trouble.......I do not need people lIEing about me to try to get me in more. <> you had a valid point that brandy must have forgot <> she did make abusive posts from her work

<> i have an email from her where she even admits to it <> And there is no posts from me saying where she works <> diablo, they did not care and that is not why Forest Lawn had issues. It was the cause of a huge flame wat, but it had nothing to do with anything that they cared about <> I don't care if all movies showed torture all day long, and as a result people tortured others in the streets. Artistic license should not be interfered with in any way.

<> BT you made that "Sorry about the death post" <> what does that have to do with <> "heres where Brandy works"? <> nothing <> oliver did this one not me <> Furhtermore these lawsuits going around suing violent game companies (Id); movie companies (That high school movie whatever it was) and the porn biz are an embarrasment to our country. <> the reason is that no one can draw a line without people pushing it further over to include their opinions

<> you gonna sue forest lawn? <> matt, i'm looking for a warehouse, office building, iwant to go into the video business...in chatsworth... <> i thnk im gonna rent one of them editing bays from matt <> I hear that several big porn webmasters have over $100 mill each in offshore accounts, can anyone give me their names? <> luke...most of them guys aint making s---

<> Without sounding like Bill MArgold wrapped in the American Flag <> Luke: screw their names; can anyone give me their money? ;) <> they have retarded investors who think they're gonna make a killing <> When you learn how to read, go to my web site and figured out what I said. Until then, I suggest you stop embarrassing yourself * michka thinks bianca should learn to read, as she made a statement that is not representative of what the web site said

<> THIS ISNT about my education it's about your lies <> that's like holding a guys dick responsible for a rape <> Fact Brandy........you are a lieing piece of s---. Thats it. Untell you produce the post.........which you can't because there isn't one. Go away and find someone else to blame for your stupidity. YOU posted from your work. Harrasing posts. Why don't you tell the real reason you where fired? <> cant we all just be friends and have sex with bianca?

<> Jimmy.... if the dick were big enough that the erection caused not enough blood to flow to the head, could the rapist claim "diminished capacity"? <> Funny how Bianca claims to know more about the reason behind my resignation from FL than I do.

<> Tuesday's Luke will be the Mike Southxxx video story <> and the fact that I can make a video that looks like a lot of money was spent on it <> Wednesday's will be Luke atoning for publishing something he was told not to <> Thursday's will be more about the fat Dutch guy <> Friday's will be about Luke's Taco Bell date with Smart Jewish Girl <> NO Luke wont publish that till I tell him to cuz if he does I wont tell him who it is...he'll get the scoop when the deal is done and there is something to show

<> Luck Ford is a schmuck too, he and Rob black could make a goo couple <> I heard a rumour that Red Hot Chili Peppers got their new title from me <> You may crack Rob Black on his attitude, but stack his best movies against everyone else and see how he comes out

<> I did Californicating 2 years ago <> maybe the only way to eliminate rap is to subvert it from within - recruit a bunch of directors who will make such awful videos that everyone will lose interest in it . . . <> Jim we are gonna shoot digital because it lends itself to the editing required <> the budget prolly wont handle digital Beta so we'll likely use full sized DV <> Aha, that's a smaller shoot- i mean you know how much Puffy spends on a rap video shoot. <> in 2 years, Puffy will be living in a trailer in Tracy, 3 blocks over from M.C. Hammer

<> Well, someone in alt.binaries.pictures.erotica.pornstar posted a Reuters article saying Celeste had died. Said she died at the age of 38. I think it is a mistake. Anyone know anything about this? <> Squish, Celeste is alive and well <> hey, Luke, why don't the photo links work on your archived pages? <> I thought it was bunk. <> JMT, cause i am an idiot

<> Though she did do an interview proclaiming that Celeste is Dead * JimGunn "In other news Jim Gunn was just hired by Trinity Broadcasting System to produce a special on the special religious significance of the millenium, astrology, and a special report on the entertainment business and it's effects on society as a whole" <> I heard from a good source (unconfirmed though) that Jenna was booted from Deja Vue in Michigan

<> The article said that Amanda Piquet was her name and she was from Oregon. <> she supposedly got booted from Deja Vue cuz she called and told em she wouldnt be there tonight <> they told her not to bother at all <> Luke: Did you ever mention Gene Kiniski to Ross? :)

<> dont quote me on this but if Metro is making so much f---ing money howcum they dont pay their bills? and when they do why do the checks inevitably bounce? <> true again xxx. They bounce big ones too...I know first hand LOL

<> BTW I heard from a really good source that the retraction letter written by "Rich" on Lukes Jenna Story was a fraud <> "Dear Luke, I em writing this before I kills myslefs. I made it all up. Now I die" <> LMike, she has to good of people working for her to ever let the truth come out

<> Mike, you are just out there shilling for Serenity, like the rest of us <> The truth has come out they just will do their best to respin it...like then Clintons do <> Extreme is a bunch of big headed no talent scumbags <> no Tom Byron makes some great porn I just think Black gets all this attention for putting out sub par crap <> To quote my good friend "[Christoph] Clark couldn't hold the tampon of two directiors in this room right now."

<> Leslie is the master and Stagliano was brilliant. No arguements there <> Leslie is awesome <> Black's stuff has been done years ago.....for ex. Joe D'Amato's early stuff like Orgasmo Erotica <> Rocco and Clark don't really try to be directors ... they're just interested in the content of the scenes <> Brandy you see Buttman Confidential #2 yet? maybe John'll hire you for damage control or impulse suppressor.

<> Mike, for the kind of movies you make, your skills are fine. I wont compare you with Cramer or Leslie or Woodman. They make different kinds of movies <> I wanna know who the girls were who were hooking in that ring that got busted...Brittany Andrews was one <> doesn't Silvera make she-male films? (Not saying he touches them, mind you . . .) <> John's owns his own co,. and he's obviously trying to make a point by sukcing she-male dick in his new movie. <> If Luke can parse BT enough to print it, I grant my full permission

<> Oh, TherE's a story about my Strap-On Sally 13 shoot in the August 1999 Gent magazine. <> luke, do you think that just perhaps, there is a possibility that an escort agency website that has pictures of porno actresses *doesn't actually have those actresses working for them*?? <> "WE" force implants on women the same way the media is responsible for violence in society- in some abstract way that should not be held up to the glare of responsibility. <> hey Luke why dont you come to the Tampa show <> nobody in Tampa wants to whack ya do they <> Sept 16-21

<> like how i f--- all the girls, and go to orgies and stuff..and my dringking and drug use....and my mob connections.....and s--- like that? <> jeez JimmyD you sound like Kid Vegas <> Jimmy I hope you're kidding. * JimmyD loves kid vegas <> JimmyD is always kidding or he is never kidding...take yer pick * MikeSouth would love to shoot kid Vegas

<> What the f--- do drugs, guns and irresponsibilty have to do with porn>> <> you dont know what kid vegas represents.... ya seee...it's porn's self0fullfilling prohpecy: they've finaly let in ACTUAL retards! <> Let in, this industry f---in' beckons them like a beacon. <> the dawning of a new era in smut <> yeah..but jim, they used to just let in people who ACTED like retards...now it's ACTUALL f---ING RETARDS! <> Preach, brother!

<> thats right JimmyD me n you and Jim only act..... <> Kid vegas/Sparkle/JohnnyToxxic <> Rob Black <> all total retards <> alex sanders <> and in no time at all...there will probly be a BIG company or two actually run by ACTUAL FUKCING RETARDS! <> Bob Genova <> comes to mind <> Don't forget Al Borda! <> Al Borda...yup <> Extreme <> and ya know what's gonna happen: once ya got on ACTUAL RETARD in there.....he'll attract others...pretty soon..the whole industry is nothing but ACTUAL DIAGNOSED RETARDS <> Luke, have any of the people who have threatened to sue you, done so? <> JMT, none <> "Welcome to the pornbiz, here's your lobotomy" <> bob....brainectomy <> No, but I found out tonight that Berth Milton of Private is very upset with me. MikeSouth>> he dont like being called a murderer? <> no, nor a drug smuggler <> I called Sana Fey to offer her a straight modeling gig in a xxx video...she didnt return my call <> so I got someone else <> Im depressed at the pitiful state of my chosen business <> ya have to act retarded,mrT, or they think your a fed <> and I never understood the whole downers thing <> what's to understand? sulk for 4 hours, then beat someone to death with a motorcycle chain, then sulk more.