Linda Lovelace, Luke F-rd, Laurie Holmes and various porners appeared on the TV show Fox Files at 9PM Thursday.
ANNOUNCER: Hard-core, X-rated, living out sexual fantasies in front of the camera, but there's a dark side.
LINDA MARCHIANO, FORMER PORN STAR: Every time someone views that movie, they're viewing me being raped.
ANNOUNCER: Porn legends speak out against the industry that made them infamous. Then, it's spring break south of the border.
SCOTT: Of all the movies rented or sold, 14 percent are rated X. That makes pornography very big business, but what's the cost to the people who appear in those movies?
Arthel Neville reports on "Burned-Out Porn Stars."
(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)
ARTHEL NEVILLE, FOX FILES (voice-over): Porn -- many women believe it's their road to money, glory and fame, but for most it's a highway to oblivion.
LINDA MARCHIANO: I was a victim of pornography.
PAMELA LONGORIA, SHANNON'S MOTHER: I do blame them for destroying my daughter.
LAURIE HOLMES, JOHN HOLMES' WIDOW: You're meat, and that's what you are.
NEVILLE: Porn movies -- it's a $5-billion-a-year business, with 700 million tapes being rented and sold every year. But for the young men and women who peddle their flesh for these movies, there's a cost that can't be measured in dollars or sense.
Luke F-rd , AUTHOR, "A HISTORY OF X": It is a form of self- destruction.
NEVILLE: Luke F-rd is author of the book, "A History of X." He says there's lifetime consequences for the actors and actresses of porn.
FORD: There's a loss of dignity in performing sex on camera. It diminishes us all. It flattens us all.
MARCHIANO: You're being used and abused, and when they're done with you, they toss you aside.
NEVILLE: Linda Marchiano should know. This 51-year-old suburban mother may not look like it now, but she is one of the most famous porn stars of all time. It's been over a quarter of a century since she rose to fame as Linda Lovelace, the star of "Deep Throat."
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP, "Deep Throat")
MARCHIANO: There's got to be more to life than just screwing around.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
MARCHIANO: I've never actually watched the whole thing. I don't think I could.
NEVILLE: That makes Linda one of a few, because "Deep Throat" is the best-selling porn film of all time. But Linda Marchiano wants no part of her legacy as Linda Lovelace.
MARCHIANO: I want to set the record straight. I was not a willing participant, I was a victim of "Deep Throat."
NEVILLE: Linda grew up in a small suburb outside of New York City. She says, as a child, she had a much higher calling.
MARCHIANO: I went to Catholic school, so I had nuns around me all the time, and that was what I wanted to be when I grew up. I wanted to be a nun.
NEVILLE: So how did this good Catholic girl end up in the most hellish of industries? According to Linda, she was forced into it by an abuse boyfriend she met when she was only 21.
MARCHIANO: When people watch "Deep Throat," they say, "Wow, you got a big smile on your face. You were having a great time, weren't you?" No. I suffered brutal beatings.
NEVILLE: In her best-selling book, "Ordeal," Linda told her terrifying story. She says she was beaten and abused on the set of "Deep Throat" unless she performed sexual acts on film.
MARCHIANO: Every time someone views that movie, they're viewing me being raped.
NEVILLE: Linda left the porn business shortly after making the movie. Since then, she has avoided the limelight, raising a family and trying to recover.
MARCHIANO: My life was taken away from me. Time doesn't heal everything, but it heals a lot.
NEVILLE: For Linda, salvation meant putting porn behind her, but what about today's porn stars? FOX FILES went behind the scenes of the making a porn movie to find out if today's porn stars feel like victims or superstars.
XXX, PORN ACTRESS: The best part for me is the sex, and I enjoy it a lot.
JOHNNIE BLACK, PORN ACTRESS: We're providing something for, you know, thousands of people out there to enjoy. I mean, you know, we're promoting freedom of expression.
NEVILLE: But what we saw on the set isn't what you call good old family values.
CHLOE, PORN ACTRESS: This industry has been so good to me.
RANDI STORM, PORN ACTRESS: If I'm ashamed of what I'm doing now, then I shouldn't be doing this. And I don't hide it. My family knows what I do.
ROBIN L. SMITH, PH.D., PSYCHOLOGIST: One reason why people would go into porn acting would be they're trying to correct something from their childhood.
NEVILLE: Dr. Robin Smith, a psychologist, says that in many cases what leads women into porn is the craving for attention.
SMITH: Maybe they were abused emotionally, physically, sexually, that they were told that their sibling was prettier, that their sibling was smarter, and it is the sweet revenge. At least, it feels that way.
NEVILLE: But while these women of porn make it sound so good, at one time so did a girl named Shannon Wilsey (ph).
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
SHANNON WILSEY: Let's get one thing straight. I'm no cookie.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
NEVILLE: In the world of porn, she was known as Savannah (ph), but to her mother, she'll always be her baby.
(on camera): Tell me about Shannon.
LONGORIA: Shannon was my little girl. I mean, she was a nice, happy, good child as she was growing.
NEVILLE: Do you ever think, "How did my baby go from that to porn queen"?
LONGORIA: No. I never thought of her as a porn queen. I guess I blocked her career out of my mind.
NEVILLE (voice-over): It was a career that began at the tender age of 19. Shannon left her mother's home in Texas and moved to Los Angeles, where she quickly became involved in porn, making 84 titles over the next four years.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
WILSEY: Don't say that.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
LONGORIA: You can't just go over there and say, "Come on, you're coming home, you're not going to be a porn star."
NEVILLE (on camera): Did you ever try that?
LONGORIA: No. No, I didn't. Now I look back, maybe I should have.
NEVILLE (voice-over): Not only did Shannon achieve so-called fame and fortune in the porn industry, she dated rock stars like Guns 'n' Roses' Slash, and Hollywood celebrities like Paulie Shore. But there was a terrible price to her porn career: heroin addiction.
FORD: She got the attention she wanted, but inside she was empty. She was a junkie.
NEVILLE (on camera): Do you think she took drugs to get through it?
LONGORIA: I know she took drugs to get through it.
NEVILLE: Did she ever say she was tired of it, she wanted to get out?
LONGORIA: Yeah, she did. She was sick of it, but she also, in the back of her mind. thought that she would be able to go into regular acting.
NEVILLE (voice-over): But, like most porn stars, Shannon's time on top was short. Her life began to spiral out of control.
FORD: As her looks began to fade and her popularity faded, and her boyfriends left her, she became increasingly desperate.
NEVILLE: In July of '94, Shannon was in a severe car accident. With her face severely cut up and her career wavering, she called her agent in a panic.
(BEGIN AUDIO CLIP)
WILSEY: I just had the biggest (expletive deleted) car accident, and I think my nose is broken, and my head.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
NEVILLE: Minutes after hanging up, Shannon shot herself in the head. She was only 23.
(on camera): Do you think the porn industry killed your daughter?
LONGORIA: Absolutely. Had my daughter not been in the porn industry, she'd still be alive for sure.
NEVILLE (voice-over): Shannon is just one of over a dozen major porn stars who have committed suicide over the past two decades. Drugs and depression are realities of the porn industry, but there is one other: disease.
FORD: You look at the porn industry, and it has left a trail of body bags.
NEVILLE: None more famous than John Holmes. There was no man ever bigger in the porn industry.
LAURIE HOLMES: There's only one king, and John was, without a doubt, to porn like Elvis was to rock 'n' roll.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
JOHN HOLMES: Hey, let a man do this.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
NEVILLE: Holmes was the first major porn star to die of AIDS. No one will ever know whether he got it from drug use or unprotected sex with thousands of partners. His wife Laurie remembers his final days.
HOLMES: He was the king of sex that could never have sex again. Skin rashes, ear infections, you know, bronchitis, that, that and the other and he went very fast.
NEVILLE: Holmes was only 43 when he died.
SHARON MITCHELL, FORMER PORN STAR: The fact that we're going to be changing over laboratories, we'll be getting a 24-hour turn-around on PCR DNA is going to really help a lot.
NEVILLE: Sharon Mitchell is in the business of keeping porn stars alive and free of disease. She runs AIM, a clinic that does counseling and AIDS testing for porn stars.
MITCHELL: AIM is all about the health care for the sex worker in body, mind, emotion, spirit.
NEVILLE: Knowing what the sex worker is going through is not a mystery to Mitchell.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
MITCHELL: Hey, did you forget something?
(END VIDEO CLIP)
NEVILLE: Over the past three decades, she has appeared in more than 2,000 porn movies.
MITCHELL: I think I needed and desired the attention. There was a very big emptiness inside me. My personal journey was very difficult. I spent a lot of my money on drugs and a frivolous lifestyle.
NEVILLE: Sharon may have been with hundreds of men in the movies, but she was truly alone.
MITCHELL: I couldn't find an honest relationship in my life. When you look at someone and say, "Well, I'm going to work today to have sex with one gentleman, two young ladies, six Rhesus monkeys, but it's you I really love, sweetheart and I'll be home to cook dinner," boy, that's a strain on a relationship.
NEVILLE: After 20 years, Sharon couldn't take it anymore.
MITCHELL: I was burnt out. I was so tired. It just felt like I was running on a treadmill.
NEVILLE: In 1995, Sharon was attacked and raped by a crazed fan. It was then she decided to get out and give back. She opened this clinic and helped institute monthly HIV tests for porn stars. Without the test, the actors are not allowed to do porn movies. The program has helped make the industry much safer.
AMBER MICHAELS, PORN ACTRESS: It's wonderful. Getting tested every month is very beneficial to everyone in the industry.
RANDY SPEARS: If she wasn't doing it, I don't know who would.
MITCHELL: What I bring to this industry as a counselor is a lot more than HIV and chemical dependency. It's a life of pornography, a life of ups and downs.
NEVILLE: But what will prepare porn stars for the tawdry reality of having their sexual acts captured on video forever?
FORD: It's a stiff price to become a porn star. It's something that is forever. It will never disappear. It's a price that they will pay for the rest of their lives.
LONGORIA: That's my daughter that all these sicko people are sitting around watching and getting pleasure out it, whatever you call it. It's actually killing me, because it's not going to end 'til I end.
NEVILLE: But is the steep price of embarrassment, disease and drug abuse offset by big bucks? The answer is no, according to the star of "Deep Throat," a movie which has earned over $600 million.
MARCHIANO: I received $1,250 for my services, and that was it.
NEVILLE (on camera): What do you say to young girls who are looking at the money, the glamour and think, "I want to do that"?
LONGORIA: It's not there. It's not there. I say, "Go home. You're not going to find any happiness in that line of work. You're going to end up hating yourself."
(END VIDEOTAPE)
NEVILLE: Unfortunately, that's advice some girls won't heed, because, Jon, for them it's about money, not morals. It's about fame, not their future.
SCOTT: What a heartbreaking story, Arthel. Thanks. Hope you've helped some people.
NEVILLE: I hope so, too.
SCOTT: And we'll be right back.
KIT HOOVER, FOX FILES: Coming up, spring break '99. Whoo!
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At 10AM, Luke got a call from Rob Spallone, one of his few friends in the industry. "I've received lots of calls today from people in the industry," boomed Rob. "Now, don't write this. But these people are not happy with you (after Fox Files) and they've offered me money to whack you. How'd you like to go to Vegas with me tomorrow? We could take a little walk in the desert?"
Unfortunately, Luke must decline the invitation for he will be in synagogue atoning for his sins and hoping to lay a real woman. According to JAP (Jewish American Princess) jokes, Jewish women are sexually cold and materialistic. In Luke's vast experience, he's rarely found them sexually cold.
To prove that fame has not gone to his head, Luke phoned rival Gene Ross Friday afternoon. As expected, Gene's favorite segment of Fox Files was the opening one on extreme fighting. Gene thought that he might've attended one of the fights in Long Beach that was covered by Fox.
Impressed by Luke's televised impersonation of a journalist, Ross believes that Aussie has great potential as a mainstream actor, and the AVN VP will give out 8x10 glossies of Ford to promote his new career.
Doom writes on RAME: "I tuned in to this well-balanced, finely-nuanced look at the porn industry. Title: Burned-Out Porn Stars.
Highlights:
1) Linda Lovelace (going by her real name) telling the nation that if you see Deep Throat, you are seeing her being raped on film.
Judging by her very pretty face, I'm sure Patrick Riley will spearhead the movement for her to join the geriatric brigade in re-entering porn.
2) Savannah's mom calling those who watch porn "sickos" and claiming the industry killed her daughter.
3) Some psychologist hypothesizing that most porners were abused/neglected as children and that they do porn out of a need for attention.
4) Luke F-rd providing color commentary, including a sound-bite that porners had damaged souls.
5) Miss Sharon Mitchell and AIM's crusade to better the lives of talent everywhere. They showed her counseling some porner about how AIM was switching testing labs to get better turnaround times on tests. No mention of how it is commonplace for labs to make minor errors like getting the age and sex of testees wrong. Fox also ran a helpful graphic about how 5 porn performers got HIV last year.
6) Current porners who
were given soundbites included: XXX (in full kayfabe mode, proclaiming
she likes the sex best of all about porn), Johnni Black, Chloe, and
Amber Michaels (giving props to Sharon Mitchell
for her concern for talent.) I was pleased to see Amber Michaels (passable/cute
face, canteloupes, hardbody, a few tats, labia jewelry- how's that,
Riley?) who is a new girl I like.
All of the current girls were pro-porn, but Fox used their commentators to undercut the girls' statements with dire predictions on how they would regret being in porn in the future.
Overall, a fine job by Fox in resisting their tabloid nature to provide an evenhanded and most fair account.
MarXman writes on RAME:
"Thank god for Fox rolling up its sleeves and really delving into the
porn biz to give us all the real scoop. Not. I am absolutely fed up
with the mainstream media working its anxious hands over the malleable
minds of the masses. The ultimate irony here is we are being spoon-fed
grade A bulls--- Judeo-Christian values from the same media which in
essence defies the existence of god. Wait, there's more irony. They
present the entire pornographic industry in a completely biased and
negative sense as if they're there to inform the public and to help
people from the evils of porn. Bulls---! Those taboos surrounding the
adult film industry are firmly in place thanks to them. They're exploiting
and using innocent lives just to
further polish their already gleaming self- image. The negative connotation
placed upon porn by today's mainstream media is comparable to the modern
day incest taboo. Could you imagine f---ing your sister? I sure as hell
couldn't. Not for all the money in the world. But
there was a time, ancient Egypt for example, in which it was a common
practice. It's all quite
arbitrary and to be honest, fake and utter bulls---. People's perceptions
and
what they deem to be universally "righteous" are simply abstract ideas
which
are pounded into their persuasive consciousness from birth. Yes, some
pornstars have ruined their lives by entering the biz. Young women who
seek fortune, fame, and glamour will get sucked up, used, and thrown
away by the American dream. That's capitalism, not pornography. For
every shattered young woman is countless happy, well-adjusted women
who I see as liberal exhibitionists who enjoy flaunting their beauty,
sexuality, and making a living in the process. What's
wrong with that? Oh, it's not "moral". It'll break you, that pornography,
won't it? In that case, I guess when Joe Office
goes home and passes up a Lean Cuisine for a hearty shotgun shell, it's
because working as an accountant is immoral. Hey LF, what is it porn
does to your soul after your image is forever engraved on film? I wasn't
depressed enough after I heard it the first time."
JRDL writes on RAME:
"Why would we expect anything different from the distant 4th broadcast
network looking to close in on the "Big Three?" No upstanding, self-righteous
individual much less a mainstream media conglomerate like the News Corp.
would EVER go on record condoning the adult film/video industry. Much
like other vices in our society today, the supply is there due to the
overwhelming demand by the "John Q. Publics" of the world. Interesting
how that point is never made. Moral issue not withstanding, some interesting
background tidbits about
the segment:
* Savannah's mother
was the Norman Rockwell picture perfect mother with
several failed marriages to her credit, ensuring that her "precious
daughter"
was given the best possible role model to follow. Of course, the "industry"
was singularly responsible for the death of Savannah, despite the best
"attempts" by her mother to save her from the "Playpen of the Damned."
* Linda Marciano "Lovelace"
was actually paid $1500 for her work in Deep
Throat, not $1250 as she stated.
* Everyone in the industry
must sleep better each night knowing that AIM is
out there protecting the talent through tens of thousands of unpaid
HIV
testing bills, lack of accountability in how AIM funds are received
and
disbursed, and still not a clue as to what happened with Marc Wallice's
early
HIV tests. Based on AIM's blemish free record, they are sure to escape
any
and all scrutiny from Brooke Ashley's attorneys for her lawsuit.
Just when I think the
human condition cannot possibly get any more ignorant, I'm chastised
by yet another example setting a new all time low. In this case, it's
not so much of the Fox Files segment as it is how incredibly in
disarray the industry is. Luckily, the industry doesn't need help in
messing
up from outside (mainstream) influences, they prove they are quite willing
and able to do it themselves.
Arch Stanton: "One need
not be in the Adult Entertainment Industry to
contemplate and carry out suicide. How many known industry-related
suicides were there in say the last ten years? A few years back there
was an epidemic of teenage suicides in South Boston. Probably more in
one year than ten years in the adult industry. How about the recent
suicide of a Suddenly Susan employee. (actor/actress?) Kurt Cobain.
This piece was yellow journalism at its finest with a dedidedly negative
spin. Fox needed to regurgitate the old and I do mean old Linda Lovelace
story. This story should be relegated to PBS reruns of the Ancient History
Files. I'm just surprised they didn't trot out Traci Lords. If they
really wanted to criticize porn they could have mentioned the latest
trend of more extreme sex and pushing the envelope. A quick shot of
Rocco shoving a womans head in a toilet would have much more shock value
than old Linda Lovelace singing her 25+ year old song. And Luke F-rd.
We are all privy to Lukes personal views and how he is ambivalent towards
porn. He claims they interviewed him for an hour and gave both positive
and negative viewpoints. Fox cut it up and gave us the negative. Luke
portrayed an image of quiet self-confidence and with that Australian
accent came across as someone who knows what he's talking about. Of
course we know better. :^) I couldn't distinguish this show from Hard
Copy. And just last night I saw one of my all-time favorite Simpsons
episodes. Homer takes the baby-sitter home and innocently grabs candy
stuck to her pants right in the old rump area. The ensuing *sexual harassment*
charges and the way it's played out is classic. Anyway, Homer is interviewed
on a Hard-Copyish program to explain his side of the story. You can
see the editing cuts and the clock changing in the background to make
him appear worse than ever. Hilarious. But the point is this parody
is not far from what Fox did to Luke. Cut out any positive statements
he made to give the appearance that suited Foxs' viewpoint."
Jim Gunn of www.jimgunn.com reports:
"That wasn't too biased
a piece on Fox Files was it? "Porn flattens the
soul", you say. Like that's something to worry about. Haah!
Did you notice how all
of the curent porn babes in the piece said that
they loved porn!
Then they trotted out
all of those people with the sad stories that can
be easily explained without blaming the porn biz:
John Holmes- A needle using, drug addicted criminal engaging in unprotected gay anal sex. Gee, I wonder why he died of AIDS?
Linda Lovelace- Typical
abused woman before she got into porn. She blew
the wonderful opportunities porn presented her and now she's an old
hag.
Too bad.
Savannah- A dumb-as-a-wall,
blow-sniffing groupie who dropped to her
knees for any half-assed celebrity. Classic cocaine induced paranoia
led
her to blow her brains out.
You blame porn for these peoples' down fall? How obvious and easy.
First of all- you looked
ok...(isn't there something about vanity in the
Bible, Luke?)
You sounded like a typical
judgemental anti-porn jerk giving a sound bite.
Sorry, you did. You sounded vaguely anti-porn, like others on the show
did, especially due to your short screen time. The only balancing factor
is that your book was plugged so maybe you are a semi-open minded
observer/journalist. But the piece was so negative overall, the bad
side
wins out if they don't know you like we insiders do. Your screen time
was
too short to really put your words in context.
"Porn flattens the soul"-
was your big statement. Again, you fall into the trap of the erroneous
underlying assumption- a very deep rooted assumption
that few people can get out from under- that sex is "bad" or "evil"
in general. You swallow it too- hook, line and sinker. Why is sex "bad"
or "evil"? Because that's the work of the Devil, right? Hah! It is from
this incorrect, underlying assumption that all anti-porn sentiments
flow. Take away that underlying assumption- something that most people
can't or won't do- and the idea that porn is bad disappears in a puff
of imaginary smoke.
Why do I get myself into this? I'm gonna sound like some anti-religious asshole (again). I mean, I am, but now I'm gonna sound like it!
An observer writes: "I think you looked and sounded excellent on the show. I know how the media can talk to you for an hour and then find one harsh thing you said and make that your whole on screen commentary. But I agree with Jim Gunn on most of his comments.
"Most specifically,
I'd like to point out that in the past 20 years,
perhaps 2000 or more actors and actresses have starred in more than
a
few sex movies. I would expect among a similar sampling of the general
population to have some amount of suicide, depression, and marital
troubles, not to mention happiness, health and wealth. I think the "porn
is bad" people are only making an issue out of the negativity that is
bound to happen in any group, let alone people "wild" enough to
attractively have sex on camera (meaning they take chances and don't
have a corporate day job - not that they are "bad" people). They seek
to
impose moral judgment, and look for anything bad as a symptom of godly
retribution or reaping what they sowed or whatever. You can play this
game with any large group - it's arbitrary.
"Look at the big screen.
Any reader of Hollywood Babylon I, II or beyond
can tell you that among famous actors of the past few years there are
plenty of tragedies. What about that tv star that just hung himself,
supposedly due to drug/legal troubles? What about Rock Hudson, Chris
Farrell, Phil Hartman, and River Phoenix? Tragic, shocking, short lives.
Do you blame it on the soul-stealing film and tv industry? The high
living? I'd say no in these cases, and generally no among the porn
tragedies. They each have their own causes and issues. Trinity Loren
didn't die because she was filmed having sex. She may have been in porn
because of depression, self esteem issues or a boyfriend pushing her
into it - or maybe the reasons are not all negative. In any case, it
seems her film career may have been a symptom, but was not a cause of
her depression, leading to loose pharmaceutical use, leading to her
tragic death.
"Look at the tragedies
of all the sports figures - does baseball lead to
death, doom and depair? Does boxing? Football? Think of all the public
tragedies associated with each.
"I'm shocked that porn
chugs along as happily as it does when you
consider the number of people and the massive turnover rate. Every
neighborhood is seething with people who have problems of some sort
-
marital problems, health problems, substance abuse, and sometimes
criminal behavior. I've had friends and neighbors die of AIDS. I've
had
friends die of violence. And I live in a quiet, boring midwestern
suburb. None of these people were involved in porn. Just a mix of bad
luck, bad judgement, bad friends, and being human. Give the porn people
a break."
Email: "Can it be true that I am e-mailing someone connnected to the porn world? Oh Glory be!!! Whatever would my friends and neighbours say if they knew? Hi Luke, I am XXX's mum and she sent me that picture of you, being such a gentleman covering up that semi naked girl's boobs so that she would not shown baring it all in front of the camera. Yes, well, I don't really believe that either. You both look like you are enjoying it too much. I got instructions from Jill to watch you on Fox Files last night....wasn't particularly interested in the subject, but was curious to see you as I had heard so much about Luke F-rd that I had to see what this man looked like.......decided you had too much of an innocent face to be connected to the work you do, but my mummy always told me you can't judge a book by its cover, and I guess she was right huh?"
David: "I had this long email to write you about yr appearance, and the piece, on THE FOX FILES, but it seems like Jim Gunn already said it all for me. If you look at any profession you will see a long "line of body bags", be it garbageman, actor, or doctor. It was all silly tabloid journalism. And as for Laurie Holmes saying that the industry views you as a piece of meat? Doesn't any industry? I work in a factory, and if you screw up, you are out the door. They don't care about you as a person, they just need a body there. Strong comment from a woman whose own husband(John) turned her out to prostitution to get crack money."
Anthony Renz writes on rec.arts.tv:
Is this one of the most
hypocritical newsmagazines, or what? Their
end-of-story wrap-ups always seem to try and preach against whatever
sex
or violence they've just shown us, and yet the very manner in which
they show the images and interviews, complete with frequent close-ups
and lurid details, would seem to belie this. I say it goes farther than
just giving us "the whole story."
Take tonight's episode,
for example. We see a segment on the "evils" of
the porn industry, though we are shown plenty of fast-motion
near-explicit video clips that really have nothing to do with the "other
side of the industry" they're trying to tell us about. They end by saying
they hope they've helped someone out there.
Then, immediately after in the following segment, we're treated to a slice of spring break life in Cabo. However, rather than following the same pattern as above, and blasting the spring break tradition as a bastion of over-indulgence in alcohol and multi-partnered sex, this report revels in it. We're shown countless shots of beer guzzling and drink shooting, and zoom-in shots of bikini'ed female breasts and behinds.
We even see a gratuitous,
topless, censored shot where the girl clearly
caresses herself for several seconds. (In addition, we're also shown
a
zoom-in "censored" shot of the girl from behind, yet the same shot was
shown just a minute or so earlier, with no "censoring"; yet another
example of this show's hypocrisy.) The message at the end of this one?
Only a lame Presidential joke, saying at least these kids get this
behavior out of their system before they reach the White House. Huh?
So which is it? The
legal porn industry is bad, but the quasi-legal
Mexican spring break party tradition is OK? Without regard to my
personal opinions, either of these stories on their own would probably
have been just fine, especially if on two different shows (i.e. one
on
Fox Files, the other on some other show). However, with the two not
only being on the same show, not only on the same episode, but shown
back-to-back?... They looked ridiculous, both the segments and the show
itself.
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Mr. Smith (Ford) Goes to Sacramento?
Luke had hoped to accompany the Free Speech Coalition to Sacramento in April to help the organization lobby on behalf of the porn industry. But FSC lobbyist Kat Sunlove writes to Luke: "Luke, there seems to be a misunderstanding. The Lobbying Days event in Sacramento is an invitation-only event and is now completely filled. You are certainly welcome to attend the portion of the event open to the public, the Political Salon and Reception on Sunday afteroon from 3 - 6 p.m., $15 at the door (reservations required). But the rest of the educational and lobbying activities would not be open to you. You might also enjoy the National A.C.T. fund-raiser being held on Saturday night the 10th at Gold Club Centerfolds."
Luke wonders why the FSC lobbyist is raising money for another organization on an FSC lobbying trip.
In an unusually exuberant moment, Luke described the Free Speech Coalition board as dominated by poofters and pansies like AVN etc.
AVN publisher Paul Fishbein
replies: "Number 1- Until you are involved with Free Speech, you cannot
criticize it from afar. The people on the board work extremely hard
and get little support from the industry. Guys like Margold dedicate
their lives to it just because they believe in the issues. It's hard
when so few people care but I think they do a very admirable job in
an industry that doesn't care about, or even understand, the issues
that affect their lives. Though Russell and I left, Steve Hirsch and
Steve Orenstein have
been added.
Number 2- Your comment about AVN is invalid. Though it may be your opinion, you and others often forget what AVN is. It is a trade publication with most of its readers being store owners and distributors. Our job is to disseminate information. How is it effeminate? The comment makes no sense at all.
Number 3- If you admit
using "pansy" is not good journalism and that you
are just trying to stir things up, then why not try to do it correctly.
Gloria is right. You were doing real well, now I think you're slipping
a bit.
RAME moderator and homosexual Tim Evanson replied to Luke's pansies remark: "What a typical comment. You don't hear gay men on this group calling straight people "breeders" or women "tuna." Typical gay-bashing from the straight crowd."
Bob points out that
Tim had no problem generalizing about West Virginians in another post
here in rame:
>> Hi...
Did anyone else see the news report about the West Virginia father who
is
suing "Penthouse"? Seems his 13 year old son was caught with a duffle
bag
FULL of magazines at school. A little checking revealed the Junior had
somehow received a subscription to the magazine by accident, and had
over a year's worth of issues.
The father is suing, saying "Penthouse" stole his son's innocence.
[Tim writes} Of course, I think his innocence was lost the day he had sex with his first cousin and her brother, but hey -- that's West Virginia for ya. :)
Bob: "If you can dish it out be prepared to receive it. Or are you exhibiting "typical pansy behavior " and can't control yourself?"
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Shay Sweet, Sunset Thomas On Air
Sin
City contract girls Shay Sweet and Sunset Thomas made on-air appearances
Thursday morning on San Jose's KSJO's Morning Show with DJ Paul Tonelli
during the station's star week. Sweet discussed her films for Sin City
and her career in adult entertainment, then was patched-in to Woody
Allen in a three-way, transcontinental conference call. After some chat
about his films, Sweet was introduced as a jazz musician, and Allen
was asked if he would cast her in one of his projects. The venerated
filmmaker was enthusiastic until it was revealed that Sweet is a porn
star with more than 200 videos to her credit. Suddenly, Allen's ardor
cooled. Tonelli then asked Sweet to fake an orgasm, which she did with
practiced, professional ease. The celebrated comedian known for his
rapid one-liners was shocked, and for possibly the first time in his
life, at a loss for words. He sputtered
stuttered, fumbled and hung up. A few moments later, he called back
to vent at being duped and deceived.
Earlier in the broadcast, Sunset Thomas was roused from her solitary pleasures by the Morning Show crew. She was asked what she was doing. She said playing with her vibrator. They didn't believe her, until she held the toy to the phone and turned it up to warp speed. They went on to discuss her career, her latest release for Sin City, White Rabbit, scheduled for release April 14, and her previous visit to the Morning Show, when she ran around their San Jose studio in the nude, then stretched out on the desk while they put pudding on her nude body and licked it off.
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Bianca Trump Scoops Alex Dane
Porn star Bianca Trump, of www.biancatrump.com, says she has no affiliation with "Mark," the pimp in the following story:
Bianca says: "Alex Dane and Gabrielle traveled to Florida on 3 separate occassions. The first time staying at a local hotel and working for "Mark" at Angeliques Escort Service. The second and third time they worked for "Mark" again, but stayed at a house he runs called www.peepshack.com where there are live cams 24hrs. a day.
"For Alex's third trip, "Mark" arranged for a photo shoot with the Penthouse photographer Ricard Anderson to shoot her for advertising pictures for Angeliques for her fourth trip. He also set it up with Adult Stars Magazine that she would go from seeing her last client in FT. Lauderdale straight up to sign for Adult Stars Magazine at the IA2000. Then after that she would go back to Ft. Lauderdale see two more clients that were pre-booked, then fly back to Orange County [Florida] for a video shoot the next day.
"Well, she saw the last
client in Lauderdale....went to the IA2000 (and got
paid for that). Met some guy and dissapeared for two days. So she missed
her two bookings back in Lauderdale. She caught a plane from the IA2000
back to Orange county.....still never giving "Mark" the agency percentage
of the last call she had done. She promissed to mail it to him from
CA. Apologized for dissing the 2 other prebookings....stating that she
fell in love in Tampa. And said to start the advertising as soon as
he got the pictures back from Richard, that she would be avaikable in
a month in Lauderdale to escort again.
"So she owed "Mark"
$700 still. He had Paid Richard $500. for the shoot.
So far out $1200. He proceeded to take out full page adds with her pictures
in Excitment $600, Playtime $500., South Florida Magazine, $800. and
on his web site www.angeliques.com $100. (For the programmer to add
it.)
After a week or so went by and still no check in the mail from Miss
Dane,
he began to phone her.... She never called back for weeks. Eventually
did
and claimed she had had phnemonia. Promising to just give him the money
when she got to Lauderdale in the following week.
"Miss Dane never went back to Lauderedale....blew off another dozen clients that had pre-booked to see her. Never paid Mark the $ she owed him or paid him back for his money she wasted on photos and advertising. After dozens of phone calls Mark never heard from her again. Lost several regular clients over it. And learned a lesson the hard way."
Lynne L-patin, porn producer and wife of Bruce Walker, writes:
"Per the Los Angeles
Times a couple of days ago, the cable TV industry
wants to get the FCC to rescind the requirement that public access be
offered to cable stations. The excuses they are using are that: there
are risque programs on cable and that, since they can't discriminate
under the First Amendment, it would be better to eliminate public access,
and that now there is the internet, TV doesn't need to be accessible
anyway. (Sexuality is safe only for the computer literate? I thought
the internet
was even more of a problem -- you can't download bestiality photos off
any cable TV show that I know of.)
Specifically we are talking about Colin's Sleazy Friends and Dr. Susan Block, are we not? Colin's show was a good friend to many segments of the porn industry. Rather than worry about whether we pornographers are exploiting and ruining innocent young lives or even spreading HIV, why not get out there and protect YOUR freedom of speech, so we can continue bringing you the fine products you seem to prefer over real relationships. Or is the Free Speech Coalition supposed to be doing that?
Dianna Roth writes:
Speaking of flattened (or is it damaged?) souls: my soul was damaged long before I got into porn. It look ten years of therapy and another ten of constant love and affection from my husband to heal it. Work and the everyday world flatten my soul on a continuous basis, whether I'm working in porn or not. My husband's illness flattens my soul. Sex, on the other hand, can be transcendent. Sex can be the cure for the common flattened soul.
The creative spirit illuminates the soul as well. When I know I've made a product which will please its audience, I'm fullfilled. It's not a matter of good or bad -- I'm sure Ed Powers has the same feeling about his work that I do about mine.
Some people get off on some pretty funky s--- but, as a PORNOGRAPHER, I'm ecstatic to see them get off to mine, so I'd best get back to work.
Yes, women can get laid at will. Me? I'm not willing to work that hard. It's too much work, and the sex is usually pretty bad. It's easier to train a German Shepherd than to have good sex with a total stranger (unless he's a porn star, drool, drool...)
Comedy Central
Jim writes: If
you didn't see the Daily Show on Comedy Central thursday night you can
catch it on Friday morning or Sunday morning when they
repeat it.
They had a worker from the library of congress in Washington DC who had cataloged most of porndom. He was living in the basement of his mother's house and had filled most of the room with catalog cases and binders. You know, cross referencing World's Biggest Gang Bang under Gangbangs, and Chong, Annabel in a card catalog. Keeping a file on each every fetish. Loads of tapes and magazines in file cabinets.
You start thinking it's
a put on (because he's so bookish and the whole thing is so extreme
when they show the elderly schoolmarmish mom and the middle class house).
But then they ask him if he has "hands on experience" meaning presumably
masturbation (as a joke), but he then says yes he has, with Chessie
Moore! And they then show where he went out and took
Chessie Moore up on her web site offer to come visit her to make a film!
There she is on screen with this guy, and he's kissing her legs and
coming up behind her, etc. They ask him "why this particular actress,
Chessie Moore?" and he explains "primarily the availability..."
Dithering, Riley Thumbs Down on Fem Porn
Msmulatto <msmulatto@aol.comnospam> wrote:
> Well, speaking strictly
as a straight female, I LIKE looking at male cocks
> and especially butt cracks--well, butts in general!
Dithering responds on RAME: Well, speaking strictly as a heterosexual (WE ARE EVERYWHERE) male, I don't give a flying-f--- about male "butt-cracks," or male butts in general. Run and tell that.
> Especially when those
nice, taut muscles are tightening and releasing as
> they thrust in and out. I'm always pleasantly surprised during the
(few)
> times I'm able to find an extended scene of a muscular, tight male
ass
> pumping--butt crack and all.
Dith: Then rent films
produced for the gay audience. Every problem has a
solution. Whining may make you feel better, but rarely helps when your
preferences are irrelevant to what the majority of paying customers
want.
> (But of course, porn
makers aren't interested in the preferences of female
> fans.)
It's called the profit motive. Life is unfair, isn't it? Why don't you email Eden Rae and ask her to risk her own capital to produce videos suited to your interests? Why not email Shane? Tina Tyler produces her own videos. Email her. Women can solve their own problems by showing some modicum of initiative, rather than whining incessantly. Or, are the aforementioned females practical businesswomen, more interested in maximizing their revenues by producing scenes the larger audience (straight men) covets, rather than warm-and-fuzzy Lifetime TV-typefilms, replete with soft cuddling and gentle, tender necking? Just asking.
I guaran-goddamn-tee
you Jim Gunn or Mike South or Rodney Moore or other male producers won't
jeopardize their brand names (and profits) by
producing female-sensitive porn that alienates their OVERWHELMINGLY
male audience. Football is not played in short pants, boxing does not
feature open-hand punches, hockey is not devoid of body-checks, baseball
pitches are not thrown underhand at 14 miles per hour, basketball is
not
played without backboard-shattering, in-your-face slam dunks. And why
not? Because men are the dominant customers. Male urges dictate,
fairly or unfairly. Go change the world yourself. Unless profits are
enhanced by catering to female whims, few businessmen in the adult-film
industry will accommodate your minority-market wishes if doing so
cannabilizes majority-market sales. Don't you just hate capitalism?
> I COULD live without
the obligatory cutaways to the fake facial
> contortions. Ridiculous--but then again, I have no interest in watching
> facials, and their existence are the reason for the asinine cuts.
Facials appeal to men.
Men are the overwhelming consumers of porn
films. Your opinion is irrelevant when cold-eyed for-profit considerations
enter the equation. Sorry.
> Breaking up the sex
to show a facial is an unnatural intrusion that to me
> pretty much defines contemporary pornography as opposed to erotica.
I
> WOULD, on the other hand, enjoy seeing and hearing the genuine paroxysms,
> grunts, and groans of orgasm. Unlike most porn viewers, I don't need
to > see the cum shot.
External "cum-shots"
appeal to men. Men are the overwhelming consumers
of porn films. Your opinion is irrelevant when cold-eyed for-profit
considerations enter the equation. Sorry.
Oh, by the way, men
overwhelmingly finance, script, hire staff, film,
edit, distribute, and consume (view) porn. Do you really think anything
will change unless women get off their often fat asses and finance,
then
produce, their own products and successfully grow the female-sensitive
market? Sorry if I don't kowtow to the politically-correct theory that
female whims are ignored by unenlightened men. Do it yourself. And
doesn't Vivid already produce female-sensitive films devoid of
hard-edged action and facials?
Unless your gender shows
capitalistic initiative and finance, develop,
and market female-sensitive products, shut up. Facials stay. Anal sex
stays. Ass-to-mouth stays. Tunnel shots stay. Double anal stays.
Female-female scenes stay. Gangbangs stay. Young, attractive females
stay, and old, ugly, fat females get sent to pasture. Male-male sex
stays in gay-oriented films only. Damn those unoriginal profit-minded
goons, looking to supply scenes that the majority of renting and buying
consumers (i.e., straight males) want. Sucks, doesn't it? You poor
females. Maybe you should email LCPofUSA since he (she?) can deliver
what you and your type covet.
MollyB <mollybloom@erols.com> wrote: >From the replies I have seen here, what females want is of no concern, >and in fact creates nothing but hostility in those who can't even >perceive of the possibilities. They stick their heads in the sand and >wonder why anyone would care what women might think. Mark my words, >someone will give it a go, make a few bucks, and they will hitch onto >the bandwagon tout suite. Of course, with their complete lack of >understanding, their product will be s---, they'll boo hoo and say I >told you so, and go back to their own banal world of porn, none the >richer and no closer to getting it.
Pat Riley writes on RAME: Now try reading what Luke F-rd has to say on the subject and especially the article at the end that he stole from the Chicago Tribune: http://www.l-keford.com/64.html
Sufficiently hot under the collar now <g>?
What Ford only touches lightly on is the fundamental difference between men and women. Most females can get laid at will; most men can't. Even worse, most women have a wide choice of males with whom they can have sex; most men consider themselves lucky to get something just genetically female, never mind choice. Weigh it even more in the female's favor: most females, even the old ones, can easily find young males (less than 25) who'll screw them. Most old males have more chance of winning the powerball lottery than poking a young female (less than 25).
(I realize there are only three males (Gunn, Torris, and myself) in the entire country who find young females to be more sexually attractive than...um...mature women but just bear with me for a moment or simply ignore the proposed advantage of the female in securing firm, young, energetic, unwrinkled, virile male flesh. The other advantages are overwhelming enough in themselves.)
This disparity is not a pleasant prospect for the young male (if he realizes it) and has been known to engender some hostility towards the "lucky" females as you can see if you look around you. Most males however suppress their feelings on the matter, put on a brave face, and try to make the best of a bad situation.
Unfortunately that "best of", unless you happen to be a professional sports star, movie star, or willing to throw your life away in the porn industry, hardly comes up to your minimum of (say) three screws a day at 18, two at 25, one at 30 etc. with a variety of females (you wouldn't eat in the same restaurant every day, would you?). That is without paying for it!
So pay for it you do. Either the lifetime purchase known as marriage, or the date or hooker (the rental situation). Or...wow, there's another much cheaper option: the porno movie. Of course it's not ideal and you have to have a good imagination or very low standards but a combination of the widow and her five daughters and a good porno goes a long way to meeting your objectives.
So it's pretty obvious why there are lots of males in the porno section of the video store. If life became fairer and the females turned into males for the purpose of desiring and seeking sex most of the males wouldn't be watching porn at all. So just why *are* you watching porn or suggesting some improvements? Never mind some vague wanting to see some hot sex. You can have all the hot sex (how hot it is is your responsibility) anytime you like. You just have to ask (not me though <g>). That's right, risk rejection. But since most females can tell a susceptible male at 500 paces it's not too much of a risk, a lot less than for a male.
