I hear that Ginger Lynn has signed with VCA to do at least one movie and Nikki Dial has signed with Vivid.
Kelly Jade, Kendra Jade’s stepmom who starred in the Jerry Springer – Kendra tape as well as Too Hot For Porno, phoned Monday afternoon 3/8/99. "I check out your web site often. It’s great gossip. I saw some of the things that John Bowen had to say and he’s wrong.
"The first thing John said to Kendra [when they met in the Spring of 1998] was: Why would he spend all this money on a movie for her when he doesn’t know how she f---s? [John f---ed Kendra on their first meeting.] He will spend more time on her career if she will sleep with him. He would concentrate more on the career of someone who would have sex with him rather than someone who wouldn’t…
"Kendra wanted to do this in the worst way [a John Bowen gangbang] so I went along for moral support. And everybody had said, ‘Bowen will get you what you need. Look what he did for Jasmin.’
"John is a manipulator. He uses big fancy ass words… I noticed how you [Luke] asked him a question about sleeping with his contract girls. And he never answered your question. He states he never raped anybody. But that is not what you asked him.
"Yes John has a heart condition but he’s still actively having sex with people. No, I never had sex with him. I didn’t have to. I just came in as Kendra’s stepmom and manager.
"I had sent another girl [Rachel] to LA to meet John. He didn’t use her, said she was a whiny little bitch. But he felt that he had to have sex with her. Because he wasn’t going to spend all this money on her if she didn’t know how to f---. Her career lasted a week.
"John told me that a girl who’d gone to Florida had been beaten up really bad and disappeared off the face of the earth. John said that Charley Frey did it.
"John manipulates Kendra and this Kristin. She at first put her foot down and said this is how it is… Then John got on the phone and manipulated her and she retracted. John uses things to scare you. He tries to scare me to get me to shut up. John threatened that if I opened my mouth about things regarding the Jerry Springer show [remember the London tabloid that published pictures of Jerry Springer caught in a love nest with Kendra and Kelly], he’d try to get my kids taken away from me.
"John made thousands of dollars off the Jerry Springer tape [with Kendra, Kelly…] He made more than $250,000 though he had to split it up with the other people involved. I’ve never seen a dime from the man. He owes me money, big surprise. I was supposed to get a certain percentage from the movie Too Hot for Porno which I never got. He was supposed to give me money for ending up in the middle of a tabloid. He never did. In fact, he owed me $300 and he bounced a check on me four times. The man sucks at finances. The man got this settlement [from Springer] and within three months, it was gone. He was looking for money again.
"Jerry Springer will never do a show on Bowen. They hate him."
Luke: "Who arranged the Springer – Kendra – Kelly liason with the camera?"
Kelly: "John. John manipulated the situation, because Kendra and I were friends with Jerry. He found a way to profit from that and he still manipulates everything that goes on. I’ve never seen anyone who can manipulate others so fast.
"John used me when he needed me to keep Kendra sufficed, then when he had her where he wanted her, he pushed me aside like I was a piece of s---. I’ve waited a year for the smoke to clear and now I don’t care who knows what. John took a situation where we were friends with somebody [talkshow host Jerry Springer] and he found a way to make money out of it. And he left me feeling that it was the only opportunity that we had for her career to advance. And he convinced us that it was the right thing to do. Do I think that what happened [Springer, Kelly and Kendra captured on tape] was the right thing to do? No. Am I ashamed? Yes.
"Jerry was an innocent person… Obviously he should not have been in a hotel with two women… I’m happily married. John is also threatening to tell everybody that I’ve had sex with all kinds of people. My husband is right here in this room. He knows exactly what John is up to. I don’t care what I look like to anybody in the industry because I don’t want a career in the industry."
Luke: "How did you end up getting into bed with Jerry Springer?"
Kelly: "I didn’t. I was in the room for security purposes only. And to make sure that things were okay with Kendra because she not too thrilled. But we both felt pressured that it had to happen because he had flown all these people in from London [tabloid journalists, photographers]. I was there [in the hotel room with Kendra and Jerry] just to talk to her and to provide moral support.
"When [Springer] arrived at the hotel, we both wanted out in the worst way but we didn’t know what to do. But there was no threesome involved. It was just him and her and I just happened to be there, watching an infomercial."
Luke: "I’ve heard allegations about John raping women?"
Kelly: "John couldn’t rape a dog if it was dead on the road. Look at him. He couldn’t hold anybody down if he wanted to. He manipulates his women into doing it, by telling them that this is the only way their career can take off.
"John manipulates the media, his wife, all his girls, everybody he runs into. He will either comment to what I have to say, and manipulate it into sounding like I am a fruitcake, or keep silent. John works in mysterious ways. And everybody gets suckered by it. Look at the people he’s suckered – the media, Jerry Springer, Kendra, me, Kristin, Jasmine…
"We all know that John is shady and has crap for credit…
"When people got AIDS [Spring of 1998], we asked him, ‘why don’t you get tested?’ He said, ‘I’m not on film, I don’t have to get tested.’ And he never uses a condom… He had sex with Kendra and Rachel before they got tested [for HIV]."
John Bowen: "I’m going to do both things that Kelly predicted… I am going to keep quiet and I am going to make her look like a fruitcake."
Kendra Jade flew to the East Coast today for a dancing gig and hasn’t yet been reached for comment.
The E! Channel has taken over John’s office for the day to shoot a documentary on Savannah, interviewing Bowen, and Savannah’s manager Nancy Pera among others.
Sharon Mitchell phoned to say that she's received a letter from the IRS granting her group AIM (Adult Industry Medicine) full non-profit status.
At the XRCO show last Thursday night, male performer Tony Montana, from Colombia, told Luke with a smile: "I will break your head open if you write anything bad about me. Just like I did to Bran Gunches. He told me over the phone to f--- off. I went into Jim South's office, picked him up and threw him to the floor. I was about to thrash him when Jim South intervened. Brad's now a homeless drug addict in Venice."
Tony listed off about a dozen serious criminal charges he's faced over the past 15 years including kidnapping for ransom and drug smuggling. "My [cocaine] distributor in Chicago owed me over $2 million," explained Montana.
VCA owner Russ Hampshire resigned last week from the Free Speech Coalition board due to lack of time. He still passionately supports porn's trade organization. AVN publisher Paul Fishbein resigned about a year ago for similar reasons.
The scandalous dance agent referred to on www.geneross.com is Charley Frey who says the charges are BS. Gene writes:
"Kendra Jade and Cassidy recently negotiated a deal with a Connecticut dance club in which they'd share the top billing. No sooner had the deal been agreed upon that Jade got a mysterious phone call from the club yesterday telling her that they got a package from an east coast dance agent claiming to represent Jade at a much lower price than was agreed upon. The agent doesn't represent Jade. Bottom line, is, Jade got beat out of a job. This isn't the first time a situation like this has happened either to her, or other dancers on the circuit. Dirty tricks seem to be the name of the game.
"Zöe says she's working on getting a federal restraining order against the agent because the same things have happened to her, repeatedly, on a national basis. "Most of my battle [with this agent] were last year," said Zöe. "I had six contracts cancelled on me."
"The hunt's also on for a dancer who, presumably, had her jaw broken by the same agent. She could be a trump card in some future legal action that could constitute the basis of a class action suit."
Rodney Moore writes:
"Lauryl Canyon became the 500th Rodney Blast Survivor last week. I was hoping to get someone special to be number 500 and I heard about Lauryl being available the morning of the scene. I had booked Inari Vachs because I had heard she was a good drooler but she flaked and cancelled 2 hours before the scene was to start. Then I got a call and was informed by a friend that Lauryl was back in the business and looking for work. I said can you come right over and she did. It worked out great. It was one of the hottest scenes I've ever done. This girl rocks. We did a scene where she comes in a box as a robot with a remote control. There are 5 buttons on the remote, Sweet and Shy, Dumb Blonde, Nasty Slut, Slave Girl, and Dominatrix. Each time I pressed a button, she became that character. Lauryl did a great job playing all the roles. Odyssey is doing a 2 page ad about this event in AVN and they'll be a brief article about it. I'm very glad Inari flaked, because Lauryl was incredible and Inari lost out on all that free publicity."
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"Porn girls love me because I have money and drugs," new porner Kid Vegas told me over the phone Sunday night. "And I'm good looking and charming."
About 5'9" with white hair, Kid Vegas resembles his namesake Kid Sparkle, formerly a producer and performer with Leisure Time. "Sparkle is a little stockier than I am because he's on a steroid trip," says the 26-year old Vegas.
"My dad used to own a casino in Las Vegas. He gives me all the money I want. I own a store in Vegas called Kid Vegas. I have a mansion in the Valley and a townhouse in Chatsworth. And a small place in Venice that my friends stay at... I go everywhere in limousines.
"Kid Sparkle jumped into my limousine after the XRCO Awards Thursday night. He wanted drugs, coke anything...
"I met Johnny Toxic [porner and rocker] at the CES," says Kid Vegas. "He came up to me at this table. I was having problems. I put $20,000 on this table and he helped me out... He's my best buddy. We partied throughout the CES. We hang out every day. He'll be in all my movies. My first movie is coming out in April, the Whoremaster."
Kid Vegas began performing sex in December of 1998, appearing in low budget productions for Mickey Blank, Heatwave, and Notorious.
"Kid Sparkle is an acquaintance of mine. He got annoyed by all that s--- on your site that supposedly came from me. I didn't write it, except the last one about Mara Pleasures and Ron Daniels. I don't know who was writing you using my name but it was pretty funny.
"Kid Sparkle tried to get crazy with me but I told him it wasn't my f---ing problem to find out who wrote all that s---. If you don't like it, look for that person who wrote it. I take it all as a joke. I don't care what anybody says about me.
"I'm trying to mix Gen-X with old school stuff. I'm trying to throw it all together but make it different.We're going to make fun of Gen-X and we're going to make fun of ourselves... We're just having a good time, doing drugs and doing girls. It's great.
"I don't like Matt Zane's s--- at all... I love this business. It's fun. I've never had so much sex in my life."
Luke hears a wild cackle of laughter over the phone from Kid's guest Jade, a black - Puerto Rican female performer.
Kid Vegas: "Girls always want to come over here and hang out, do drugs and party. I've got one over here now who wants to party. She's smoking some weed right now."
Wild cackling laughter.
Kid: "Other girls are coming over later. All porn chicks. They all wants drugs and money and they all want to be in my movies.
"I think you'll like the movie [The Whoremaster] when it comes out. I'm jumping through fire, jumping through trees, doing karate sex, climbing rocks, skateboarding, playing the bass."
Kid's buffed about 30 porn girls, and he lists Priscilla Jane, Eva and Donita as his favorites. "Me and Toxic were licking off her [Donita] titties at the awards."
Is there truly such a thing as Gen-X porn? I'm leafing through the latest sex obsessed issue of Details magazine, which features an Anka profile of Matt Zane.
Anka: "...Matt Zane...who represents a new generation of pornographers."
Matt tells Anka: "It's electro-porn-core... It's lust and musical manifestation! Every song is a little orgasm! I'll be on stage, and all of a sudden I'll explode, and I'll lift my arms like I just came! I didn't really come in my pants - hopefully I'll do that later. But the whole stage show is a great mating ritual. I'm looking out at all the chicks in the crowd to see who's going to come up afterward and, like, get it on."
Anka: "Zane's work respresents a subgenre of porn that combines documentary-style footage, music-video editing, home-movie cinematography, and candid, improvised "acting." Like the Pamela nad Tommy Lee video, Zane's movies give the viewer the feeling that somebody happened tot urn on a the camcorder and catpure something they weren't supposed to see."
Anka notes that the Zane crowd sports numerous tattoos, genital piercings and strange haircuts.
Matt: "Lust propels life! And I am the physical manifestation of lust! A lot of girls are inspired by the ritual of my band Society 1. They get locked into the shamanistic experience, and they just want to bang the shaman himself! People need to feel spirituality, but they need something they can feel."
The media hype Matt receives reminds me of Candida Royalle. Perhaps their contributions to porn are about equal, about 1/100th of the mainstream media hype?
Also in the 3/99 Details - profiles of softporn queens Julie Strain and Shannon Tweed (of 1984 Hot Dog fame).
Email: "Kid Vegas, Johnny Toxic, all these "Gen X" guys are ridiculous Luke. Please spread this message. When I watch a Johnny Toxic video, all I think about is how f---ing lame the whole act is. I'm thinking, "Johnny, just be regular. You are f---ing hot girls and acting like a f---ing idiot". Rob Black's one of these porn guys who takes it too seriously, like Greg Dark. He thinks his movies are art. Porn is art in itself. Get the girls naked and f--- them in crazy ways, that's art. I don't need to see a little paper mache fly pretend to get stoned."
Owsley: "Zane routinely cranks out some of the most stale porn you can buy, but at least he's savvy enough to know how to work the publicity machine. I wonder if all the recent publicity has affected his sales? At the shops I frequent they've all but stopped carrying his titles because they sell poorly."
GM: "I heard about him and this whole Gen-X porn thing on ET some time go. So, I decided "Hey, I'm supposedly Gen-X, I guess I'll see one of his videos." Boy, was that the waste of a rental. It sucked big big time. I rather see Ron Jeremy suck himself off for 9 hours than see Zane s--- again. Now what exactly is Gen-X porn. Gen-X people are the children of the Boomers and are between 18-30. Well, gees, that includes practically every porn star in video right now. So, almost any video out there is Gen-X and made better than that wannabe MTV buills--- Zane puts out. It's all hype.
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Sin City production head Chuck Martino has settled his feud with Director James DiGiorgio but is spoiling for his date in court with former production manager John Billich (J.B.) on Friday, March 19 in Van Nuys. JB is suing Chuck and Sin City for $2000 after getting fired and knocked around on the White Rabbit shoot in December.
"I have cancelled checks for everything," said Martino by phone Sunday evening. "I gave him $2000 to buy food for White Rabbit and told him to only spend $500 a day. He spent all $2000 and never gave me any receipts. On his last day, he was two-and-a-half hours late. I had to hire a new production manager. On my book, JB works for $300 a day except for when we were doing two shoots a day, and then he made $400 a day.
"I spoke to my hotshot attorney who wins all the big murder cases. Everyone loves him but he cannot represent me in Small Claims Court. But he'll go into court with me because he knows that judge. And as soon as the judge looks at him, it will be over.
"Your poor little friend JB is f---ed in the ass. I welcome the opportunity to see his fat ugly ass in court. By the way, your friend James DiGiorgio and I got everything squared away."
Mike South asks: "Did Vivid pay a placement fee to HBO? Every episode of The Sopranos shows at least one Vivid movie poster."
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If the picture on page 82 of the latest New Times (Los Angeles) is correct, porn star Krysti Myst is available for escort work at 310-258-0294. The weekly features about ten pages of ads for prostitutes. For more info, try www.lavip.net or www.cityvibe.com or www.kittycatescorts.com or porn star Raven at 213-972-4043 or Patty Please at 310-456-2424 or www.pplease.com
Legend releases this month Jerome Tanner's return to porn. He directs Devil or Angel and Casa Blanca. Also from Legend, the big budget Adriana Gold epic Assylum and Jim Powers' Violation of Katie Gold, starring six angry dykes, a box full of dildos, a rope and a flashlight. (818-734-4200)
Porn chat - irc.eskimo.com, 6667, #pornchat:
<mammy> anyone seen gene ross lurking around here
<JimGunn> Geez Gene realy is keeping busy huh?
<PudgyM> Gene's page had nothing of real value the last time I looked. But it did have a 'piece' designed to make Luke look stupid.
<mammy> paul must have lit a fire under his ass
<JimGunn> I think Gen's page is pretty good for what it is. But the stuff that on there is a lot of b.s. hype . That's not his fault thugh. Thats what these guys are spewing.
<JimGunn> Everyone's trying to build a name out of nothing by yelling louder than the next guy.
<mammy> i liked it better when all the talk was about the mafia and money laundering
<JimGunn> I sy, no one cares if you're Gen-X. Make a good movie or shut the f--- up.
<mammy> at least gene doesnt go around with a digital camera
<PudgyM> We want searing scenes with good-looking women, and voluminous cumshots.
<Luke> and moral angst
<MikeSouth> thats why ya like me pudg :)
<JimGunn> Luke already exposed all the mafia connections. It's all out n the open already so now the biz can argue with teach other about other things.
<Luke> I've been starting an ethics ranking of folks in the biz
<Luke> Good idea or bad, arrogant?
<mammy> luke, how do you tell
<MikeSouth> I like it Luke...keep it up to date
<BobBlec> Luke: go for it
<JimGunn> ..that you'd like to share?
<Luke> thanks, i thought it would be a way of separating the truly decent folks from teh scum
<Luke> normally i do not make many moral judgements on my site, but a page ranking these jokers..let's folks know who has dangerous reputations
<mammy> but there is soooo much scum
<MikeSouth> Matt I like you but you should hire someone to hire your heads of production for ya :)
<Luke> it seemed that raven and chuck had a falling out
<LT> Someone having a falling out with Chuck Martino...rare!
<LT> Luke: I think you were a bit generous in certain aspects :)
<LT> Luke graded on a curve :)
<LT> "Luke and The Bell Curve: A Thesis" :)
<Diablo^> 1999 is the year for porno comebacks Marylin Chambers, Ginger Lynn, Nikki Dial
<MikeSouth> I dont call em cocksockets
<MikeSouth> I dont beat em
<LT> Mike: Ring up some more points :)
<MikeSouth> I don't give em bad checks
<lsb> Too bad there isn't a porn mag, like Entertainment Weekly
<LT> lsb: I thought EW and Details *were* porn mags :)
<MikeSouth> I dont send em to Reb or Jim South or Regan Senter
<LT> Mike: That you get extra points for.
<Alain-> Mike But do you pay them more than $200 for their first-time anal ?
<BrandyAlx> Do you really think enough interest stuff happens each week to fill a magazine?
<MikeSouth> alain...I usually pay them too much
<PudgyM> There are some mags out there which are fair. Mike was interviewed in one, "Married Punks". "Brutarian" magazine has a good article about the business each issue.
<lsb> The probl;em is, news in adult mags are months old
<MikeSouth> I'll usually give a girl what she asks for and in some cases...like Midori I told her she wasnt asking for enough.....
<MikeSouth> then I overpaid her on my own....Oh well
<BrandyAlx> Luke, you best respond to my proposal right quick. I just met a cute Brit. ;)
<PudgyM> I think Richard Freeman's "Batteries Not Included" is a very good zine writing about adult movies.
<LT> lsb: Have you checked out Gene Ross' site?
<MikeSouth> long as it doesn't become SELF righteousness...ya'll keep my ass in line OK
<LT> I think Gene is trying to "outluke" Luke...at least lengthwise :)
<MikeSouth> here's the diff between Ross and Luke...Luke would have named Charley Fry as the "East Coast Agent"
<MikeSouth> Gene seems to have some untidy ties to T Bone
<LT> Gene's agenda: discredit Luke, Wrestle-fy porn, promote John T.
<mammy> shay sweet will be shot for hustler, penthouse, and other mens mags
<LT> See what happens when one gets a boob job?
<mammy> with lukes favorite guy, chuck martino
<LT> ...the offers pour in.
<MikeSouth> Bet a dollar shay doesnt make Pet of the Month
<MikeSouth> Shay is cute as hell
<MikeSouth> too cute for Chuck
<LT> She already made one mistake, she said her boob job was painful as Hell.
<JimGunn> Of course, my usual under the radar style- I don't even make Luke's list I don't think.
<MikeSouth> I did Jim.....
<MikeSouth> I got four of 5 stars
* LT thinks Luke has drifted away
<BobBlec> Mike: work on that 5th
<MikeSouth> course compared to gents like Charley Fry and T Bone I am a f---ing saint
<LT> Jim: Is that good or bad? :)
<LT> Mike: Frey and Bone deserve each other.
<MikeSouth> a regular Mother Theresa
<DirtyBob> Saint South?
<MikeSouth> LT thats exactly what I told Luke
<JimGunn> I don't know if it's good or bad. Ask Luke- he overloked me.
<LT> DB: Saint *Mike* South
<PudgyM> Sylvia Saint?
<LT> Someone else on chat said they wished Charlie Frey'd get cancer...
<MikeSouth> cannonized on Monday March 8, 1999
<MikeSouth> I guess I did perform 3 miracles though
<JimGunn> Why does Max Hardcore get zero stars. He pays his bils.
<DirtyBob> Is this, like, Luke Notes. You know, like Cliff Notes?
<LT> Man, when Matt runs...he *runs*
<LT> DB: hehehe
<BobBlec> DB: Luke Notes is Lotus Notes' brother ;)
<MikeSouth> prolly has to go pull chucky off of Shay
<BobBlec> hahahaha
<MikeSouth> for he beats her too bad
<LT> Cliff Notes, hey, that's the guy that wrote that whale book "Moby Dick"
<Luke> Jim, do you bounce checks?
<MikeSouth> Luke I have decided I am worthy of 5 stars :)
<JimGunn> I've done 65 movies with no comlaints yet.
<DirtyBob> I hear the gunn getting cocked right now...
<JimGunn> I have a saying- There's no way to bottom out in the porn biz. You can always get another job or another deal no matter how much of an idiot or crook, or how lame you are.
<JimGunn> Luke, you still having second thoughts on a career in porn journalism?
<VladTepes> where is Rog?
<Alain-> ?? anyone heard about a Tori Spelling home-sex tape ? they just mentionned something about this on the local tv show FLASH on TQS, kindoff an cheap local version of entertainment tonight
<JimGunn> [You sounded real depressed a few days ago]
<JimGunn> Haven't heard a thing. Gee just what we need another celebrity sex tape.
<PudgyM> Did she appear more enthused about the sex than do some of our contemporary pornstars?
<JimGunn> I betcha she does anal though!
<spacemanj> And of all the celebrities I *don't* want to see "swiving"™
<Luke> Jim, i am feeling good about porn journalism for the moment, thanks..i needed to think things through and get some feedback.
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<MikeSouth> I have heard of it but never really got all excited...you say this was on FLASH?
<MikeSouth> the credibilty goes up a bit
<PudgyM> I haven't heard that one, Alain-.
<spacemanj> You weren't having second thoughts, Luke...where would I get my scoops?
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<Alain-> yes Flash a show made in Montreal
<PudgyM> 4,15Good evening, quest66.
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<PudgyM> (Gotcha.)
<Alain-> they always have some international features, mostly taken from american tv shows
<Alain-> and dubbed in french
<MikeSouth> hmmm wonder how I might get my mits on THAT tape
<JimGunn> Luke I cannot say I agree with your basis of soul searching. If you take away the religious underpinnings on which you base your morality and reject the idea that sex is "bad" in the first place you'll have no such internal conflict. However, I am glad you are still with us in good spirits.
<PudgyM> And did the anchor make a peculiar gesture with his index finger and his other hand?
<spacemanj> ha ha ha ha
<MikeSouth> did my feedback help Luke....
<MikeSouth> avoid the trappings of self righteousness Luke...you teeter to near the edge at times
<Alain-> Pudgy the anchor is Patricia Paquin a gorgeous late 20's brunette, popular actress over here
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<MikeSouth> Live your LIFE as YOU see fit...dont push your version of morality on everyone else
<PudgyM> Luke, if you're going to adopt an attitude that sex is bad, then you also need to consider urination and defecation as bad.
<spacemanj> hear, hear!
<PudgyM> Oh, O.K., Alain.
<PudgyM> And did the anchor make a peculiar gesture with her index finger and a fist on the other hand?
<spacemanj> :-)
<MikeSouth> Porn needs ya Luke.....otherwise we return to the dark
<MikeSouth> I thought of a name for yer next book Luke
<Alain-> Patricia Paquin fisting a girl I can imagine that scene very well
<Alain-> you should see her, yummy if you are into small titties
<WarmProp> although i don't check the news sites that much, i gotta say l-keford.com has much more personality than geneross.com... pictures etc... looks like you don't know html too well :) stuff like that. much more fun to read.
<WarmProp> ihmo
<WarmProp> imho even
<MikeSouth> Call it "I am the Crack That Let the Light In."
<BobBlec> Alain: sounds yummy
<MikeSouth> geneross site has gene's personality...none
<WarmProp> well it seems to me geneross.com is more authoritan(?)... "i know better", you know?
<Luke> off to shul [synagogue]
<JimGunn> Shul every nght Luke?
<DirtyBob> Luke, we can still hear you breathing heavily in the background...
<Tenebre> shul?
<JustMrT> something to do with being a jew
<spacemanj> temple, for you goys out there.
<DirtyBob> How many Lukes does it take to screw UP a lightbulb?
<JustMrT> Oy!
<Alain-> JMT: kinda lika circumcision ?
<BobBlec> shul = synagogue
<MikeSouth> bris="shudder"
<DirtyBob> I want to know how many people out there just got their dictionary out and looked up shul? Be honest now!
<Diablo^> hehe
<Alain-> dirtybob: not me I don't have a dictionnary
* spacemanj *is* Jewish...no looking up necessary.
<RogTPipe> Mike, you made the luke ethics list
<JustMrT> I don't know if you'd find that word in your average dictionary
<Loudness-> verb to shul
<spacemanj> adverb "shully"
<Loudness-> I shul, he shuls....shul/shullen/shullen
<Alain-> that reminds me that I'm a catholic and I will need to write a phone book thick list for my next confession (been like 22-23 years since the last time)
<RogTPipe> WB Vlad
<VladTepes> thx
<DirtyBob> hey Mike - isn't shul how people from Atlanta pronounce school...?
<JustMrT> anyway, do we know for sure that Luke is spelling that right? He seems to indulge in phonetic Yiddish
<spacemanj> hahahaha
<Loudness-> shully could be the porn version of agent scully from X-files
<spacemanj> JMT- he's right
<DirtyBob> shul 'nuff!
<PudgyM> Isn't shul the name of a former Miami Dolphins coach?
<JustMrT> what's that word for "crazy"?
<Loudness-> or u may say.. shul up!
<spacemanj> meshuggenah?
<MikeSouth> ya'll know what a jewish dilemma is?
<MikeSouth> Free Bacon
<JustMrT> someone alert the Anti-Defamation League . . .
<Alain-> if you are an Hassidim that would be waithing the 12 days after the start of your wife period to have sex ?!
<MikeSouth> Know how to tell when orientals have moved into your neighborhood
<JustMrT> how?
<PudgyM> Does it involve JimGunn leaving?
<MikeSouth> all the Mexicans buy auto insurance
<PatRedmon> Tiffany took Rog's phone #. She wants him to tell her story when they talk , she trusts him.
<BobBlec> Pat: interesting
<PatRedmon> Her and van WERE fired
<spacemanj> Pat- is she still gonna write and/or direct?
<MikeSouth> Pat...I knew that
<PatRedmon> Her and Van have not been paid in a year
<MikeSouth> does THAT really surprise anyone?
<PatRedmon> Just a minute, space...
<JustMrT> so basically all of the money generated in the porno industry just disappears? Nobody ever admits to being paid
<PatRedmon> She hinted Jasmin was probably behind the firing
<Alain-> Who will be left at Extreme except Byron ?
<PatRedmon> At least the Exterme money, JMT
<MikeSouth> Byron IS Extreme
<PatRedmon> Jas, Rob, Tom
<MikeSouth> unlees ya count daddy
<JustMrT> awww, Mike you're just jealous because you don't have a rich, mob-connected pa
<JimGunn> C'mon now Dom Zicari isn't necessarilt mob connected.
<MikeSouth> ya right Jim
<PatRedmon> The public was lead to believe Extreme was a partnership...NOPE, Black's company ALL ALONG
<JimGunn> I would likea rich Dad though.
<Alain-> is it dom or don zicari ?
<MikeSouth> dominic
<spacemanj> pat-interesting
<JimGunn> Dominic Sr.
<PatRedmon> She and Van will continue to work together. They don't have a company name yet though...
<PatRedmon> She has been on the road alot. She is home today, and will, in her words ".straighten things out..."
<MikeSouth> <---thinks JimmyD will arive fairly soon
<PatRedmon> Van has been taking care of things while she's been on the road
<PudgyM> Alain-, I was fired and I was drawing no salary.
<MikeSouth> I was figuring I'd read on Luke's site where Van cut off Rob's Cornrows and fed em to his ass
<PudgyM> I was fired because I was the proverbial guy who knew exactly what was occurring.
<BobBlec> Pudgy: I know the feeling
<PudgyM> "0,5In every organization there is one person who knows exactly what is going on. That person must be fired."
<PatRedmon> When I told Tiff these were questions for some friends in cyberspace, she said "As long as it's not for that Luke F-rd, he makes up alot of stuff, I don't like him"
<spacemanj> hehehe
<BobBlec> Pat: hmmmmm...
<PatRedmon> oops, he's polling, isn't he ?
<spacemanj> You know what's gonna be at the top of Luke's site tomorrow morning :-)
<JustMrT> he doens't really have to make things up anymore ... others make things up for him, and he runs it
<PatRedmon> She's going to give Rog 'her' story
<JimGunn> It sure it will be interesting reading, but who really cares abot the story?
<PatRedmon> Someone asked if she watches her own movies. Yes, sometimes
<JimGunn> I am wasting altogether too much time reading gossip. I admit I can't resist. And the volume of it is just so much!
<PatRedmon> She seems to think some people care
<JimGunn> l-keford and Gene Ross and rame and irc. Hours every week just to stay informed.
<JustMrT> and what does it get you?
<PatRedmon> Gossip is like watching car racing for the crashes
<JimGunn> I think it's great, but it's easy to get suckedinto wasting time.
<JustMrT> a thorough understanding of Kendra Jade's step-mom's world view?
<BobBlec> heheh
<PatRedmon> yeah
<JustMrT> Chuck Martino's Van Nuys Small Claims Court pre-trial strategy?
<PatRedmon> Tiff puts on a VERY interactive show
<JimGunn> These guys should be embarassed about how much of their personal info is out there for all to read.
<JimGunn> I mean every financial detail and all their dirt. How much money they make. etc.
<BobBlec> Jim: we see these people totally naked everytime we watch their videos, don't we?
<JustMrT> I bet Luke will be too lazy to actually go and watch the trial ... he'll just print what Chuck tells him about it, then JB's totally contradictory account of it
<spacemanj> Jim- who are you referring to? I know of no payrolls listed, just generalities at best.
<PatRedmon> She butt and pussy flossed herself with her bikini, then held it over my face for about 15 seconds !!!!!! mmmmmmmmm...........
<JimGunn> Not the directors & producers necessarily. But still is there no privacy. One thing to let your schlong hang out. Another to have your tax return on the internet!
<PudgyM> Ha ha ha ha.
<spacemanj> Pat- you're a lucky man....
<JustMrT> where was this, Pat?
<PudgyM> Besides over your head?
<JimGunn> Space- generalities are becoming more specific all the time. Did you read about the Extreme court case? All the dirt. I couldn't even read it I felt bad for them.
<BobBlec> Jim: ok... but we're really kinda dealing with a field where people aren't particularly prudish to begin with, so I'm not sure how much embarassment we'd really be dealing with
<PatRedmon> Unfortunately the 'Freedom of Information Act' allows the information to be gathered. It's the unscrupulous that publish it.
<JimGunn> Unscupulous yes. But fascinating no question.
<spacemanj> I must say I read no such case....sorry. But that's kinda what happens.
<PudgyM> What might be really embarrassing is what JimmyD wrote here one week: That the cable version of your video is what provides the profit to the company.
<JustMrT> it isn't unscrupulous to publish something that someone volunarily tells you when you're hold a tape recorder right in their face
<PatRedmon> Of course
<spacemanj> But it's also possible to protect yourself. I see little gossip re: you and MikeSouth...
<PudgyM> I keep reflecting
back to what Mark Twain wrote, "Tell the truth, and you don't have to
worry about what you said."