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Friday, January 1, 1999

Hyapatia Lee appears to have faked her death to milk money from her fans and from government welfare.

I received this from a well-placed source: "Hyapatia and her husband are roughly 35 and 28, respectively, and although they're both in perfectly good health, they've managed to qualify for monthly disability and welfare checks from uncle sam. But this is nothing new for Hyapatia - she was collecting food stamps and pleading poverty for government handouts even while dancing on the road for $5-6000 a week. Hyapatia and her husband make a comfortable living off the federal dole, which includes $300 a month from the state for each kid as well - add in the ex's child support payments, and royalties from Hyapatia's fan club, website, and movie royalties, and they're making about $4,000 every month for doing absolutely nothing. They are extremely proud of themselves for having achieved this state of paid inertia, which is also fueled by Hyapatia's belief that "the world owes her a living."

"Several months ago, Hyapatia came up with another plan to make more
'money for nothing' - and it involved faking her own death. She engaged
the help of a few people to start spreading the word that she was
gravely ill, by telling them secretly that she was having problems with
a stalker, and by faking her own death she would hopefully be able to
live her life in safe anonymity. And so a 'goodbye' message to fans was
put on her website, and all website sales were discontinued (at this
time Hyapatia was also filing for personal bankruptcy, which
coincidentally necessitated quickly covering any apparant sources of
income & material assets, like fan club merchandise and inventory...)

"After a few months passed, Hyapatia decided it was time to roll over
and play dead, and had someone begin spreading the word on the net that
'Hyapatia Lee has passed away'... And this is where the clincher of her
plan comes in - attached to the sad obituary note is a brilliant sales
pitch, pleading for fans to pity her poor family that has no money to
pay her doctor bills or burial expenses, followed with a "special
offering" of "exclusive fan club merchandise" from beyond the grave....
Wow - so she got to file for bankruptcy, while keeping all her inventory
AND hiding it from Uncle Sam, AND she got to jack up the prices while
boosting sales with a tearstained plea that no loyal fan could resist.

"Well, now she can pat herself on the back until her arm falls off,
reminding herself how clever she is for beating the system again and
again, and for pulling off her coup de' tat, a swan song that swept
those scummy porno fans along for one last glorious ride. She planned
this out deliberately as her last dealing with adult industry, before
closing the door on that unhappy part of her past, and moving in a new
direction. I wonder if she's in newsgroups right now, reading through
the sad obituary postings by her loyal and trusting fans... and
calculating how much money each one is gonna send her..."

A source in the music biz: "This [reports of Hyapatia's death] is all BULLs---. She is fine and in a few months will reappear and start her singing career again........She will claim she is fine and knew nothing of the internet reports claiming she is dead."

From a post on alt.showbiz.gossip: "I just received the following note from the official fan club for the Native American adult film actress Hyapatia Lee:

"Hyapatia Lee has relapsed into a childhood disease (diabetes) and passed away. This news has upset many beloved fans and friends around the world. When Hyapatia learned of her inevitable demise she had a last request. In her personal words--'Please set up a fund raising sale in my behalf for my medical and burial expenses. I have no medical insurance and my family can't even afford the doctor bills not to mention the cost of a burial. I have a lot of fan club merchandise left that can be sold and I will give a list of personal one of a kind items that are sentimental to me. These items are truly part of me and my history of being a legend of erotica.

"'I really appreciate all of the love and support from my friends and I'm
sure the Great Spirit will reunite us all one day. I will autograph as many
items as I can. Remember, if you buy ANY merchandise from the fan club, it is mine personally. You will not only help a friend in dire need, but also help my spirit to live on with you.'

"Please help if you can. Hyapatia Lee 1961-1998."

Poster: "According to the note, those who are already members of her fan club have the first opportunity to buy her remaining autographed photos, magazines, videotapes, etc., before they go up for sale over the Internet on February 1.

"The news of her passing has not yet been announced on her official website (www.hyapatialee.com). It truly is a shame. Despite her occupation, she always came across as an intelligent, spiritual, and charming young woman. She will be missed."

Numerous folks are skeptical of these reports. Writes Stacia: "Call me suspicious, but if the official website doesn't announce it, and there are no articles to be found on the subject, how do you know this isn't a ploy to get people to buy stuff from the fan club? You'd think that there would be something about her untimely death somewhere besides in an ad for merchandise. I guess I'm both suspicious *and* optimistic."

Rob: "Hmmm.. something seems wrong here if you ask me. First off, I know people who have died from diabetes and never have I heard "You're going to die from diabetes." Its always been, your fine maybe having a few symptoms your ignoring but your in control of the diease, then WHAM you're in a coma, and then WHAM your dead. Not the kind of thing where you know you have an expiration date, and then decide to sign a bunch of things to sell. I may be wrong but my Robbie-sense(TM) is a buzzen. The last thing I heard was that she was sick and was going to
give away what little was left of her merchandice

"First thing I think of is she really did die and those stuck with truck loads of unsellable merchandice have come up with a scheme to unload it quickly by forging her signature. Second thing comes to mind is that she didn't die."

Protodorian writes on RAME: "My first porn memories are not of movies. I was too young to see them. It's of reading the ads in my local paper for the porno drive-ins that have since gone away. I remember ads for Ribald Tales of Canterbury starring Hypathia Lee, and other movies featuring her back in the days of film.

"If you read her web page it talked of no insurance and no money. I hope those sweethearts out there in porn learn a lesson. If its true that she is gone that is sad. Hypathia was too young to die of diabetes, way too young.

"I'm afraid that those sweethearts out there are too young and too naive to
think that porn can lead to bigger and better things. In a few years Ginger
Lynn will be too old and to untalented to make a living in the adult business. Can you imagine a few years from now having phone sex with the former top-star in porn. I'd do it, but I wonder if a 42 year old ginger can put her face in the ads? I'm sure she'll have to resort to that and maybe sell her old stuff. What do old porn stars do? I mean can they go down to the local juco and become a veternary's assistant or secretary? Who's going to hire a 35 year old Jenna Jameson to star as the mother in a cheesy UPN sitcom? Who's going to rush down to Deja Vu to see a 38 year old Nikki Dial? Sure, a few like Nina Hartley and Jeana Fine can makea porn into their mid to late 30s. But seriously, are enough people going to rent their movies when they are 43? I mean in a few years Racquel Darrian will be over the hill and we'll be so sick of Derrick Lane.

"I hope Serenity, Asia, Jenna, Katie Gold, Chasey, Dina Jewel, et al. make some plans for the future. I can't imagine a more fleeting industry than porn.

"If Hypathia died w/o money, no health insurance and so on. If Leslie Glass is in such dire straits we all have to be ashamed of ourselves. We call ourselves fans and say we care for the industry and for the stars, and
yet we bitch about women who won't do anal, dogde cum shots, won't do blacks, won't be nasty enough. We bitch about condoms and give women points for degrading themselves. Gee some fans are we.

"We treat these women as pure products and justify it by saying they choose to do it and they get paid for it--gee that did Hypathia, Alex Jordan, Savannah, and Leslie Glass (cancer) a s--- load of good. Gee, let's have a strip-off and sell panties for Leslie's medical bills--give me a f---ing break. The utter hopelessness of it all.

"Did any of you read the book Lolita? At the end of the novel Humbert realizes that Dolores did what she did out of hopelessness. She never did really love Humbert, she was just caught in a hopeless situation and felt that she had to sleep with Humbert to survive. Lolita is not an endoresement of paedophilia, it is a rejection of it.

"Sometimes I wonder if the female stars who say that they love porn are really like Lo--caught in something horrible and tragic and they pretend to like it for survival. Feel that they have no choice and nothing else to offer but themselves for the Humberts out there. (By the way the latest movie version of Lolita is excellent!)"

Porn star Heaven Leigh writes on RAME: "A lot of girls do it to pay for the rent or car payment and then get sucked in porn for the money.They then see it is hard to give up the money and go to a $7.00 an hour job when they are making so much, but they feel bad for getting paid for sex.
I think you should have to be 21 to get into porn to many 18 year old girls are getting into porn and have no clue what life is all about and get used and spit out after the porn companies are done with them.That is why drugs are so high in this business."

John Bagley writes on RAME: "Why does it take the death of one of these ladies for us to even admit this? Why isn't this being trumpeted to the ladies throughout their careers?

"With age comes experience...yet the videos I rent and/or buy feature
18-to-25-year-old starlets...who will no doubt be making rather good money and yet not know how to properly manage it. Thus, the drugs, booze, etc., come into their lives.

"I don't profess to have an answer to this conundrum, yet I wonder again why someone like Hyapatia Lee or Trinity Loren or Savannah has to die (whether by illness or their own hand) before we realize that something should be done?"

FRSP: "Bulls---. I'm sick and tired of hearing these excuses and then calls for guilt-induced charity and further government involvement. (such as raising the age of porn entry to 21.) If Hyapatia died poor, the blame is ultimately her own. Why didn't she budget her money? Why didn't she plan for a life after porn? Why didn't she develop other skills with which to make a living? In short, why didn't she take responsibility for her life? Now I can hear all the bleeding heart responses - she was a poor, disadvantaged, sensitive woman at the mercy of the manipulative, deceptive pack of wolves that exist in the porn industry; she "was helpless and afraid in a world she never made."

"Please!

"People possess free will. They are the ultimate determiners of their future.
Destiny is not a function of fate, it is a function of will and effort. And
Nabalov's Lolita is not an example of some higher truth. It is an example of another nihilist who refused to accept the reality of self determination, yet another author who made excuses for all the mediocrities who refuse to accept responsibility for their lives and bemoan a cruel and uncarring world.

"Hyapatia Lee, if she is indeed dead, is a tragic story. But the tragedy
involves her inability to live life after porn, and as such her story is a
tragedy the fault of which solely lies with her. The porno industry provides a class of women (and men) an opportunity to earn a living, the likes of which most of them could never earn (at least not easily) elsewhere. For those that have not developed other commercially tradeable skills, porn offers a market for their raw sexuality. For those that enter into the industry with some thought, their standard of living will significantly rise. Now is it true that there will be pressures and influences that are
potentially harmful; i.e. drugs, laziness, burnout, etc.? Yes. But the responsibility to deal with these things is on the individual performer, not on society at large.

"Our society has reached such a level that hopeless resignation and excuses for failure is all you hear. I, for one, am sick of it. I strongly advise whoever is out there in pornoland not to accept moral blame or guilt for Hyapatia's death, or any starlets' death. You can rest assure that the regulators, the legislators, the men who wield political pull will use this as yet another avenue to ban porn. "My fellow Americans, can't you see the toll that this hedonistic, self indulgent, decadent industry takes on the innocent. Another one of our flock was lead astray and forced down the path of pestilence and self destruction. We must not let this go on!" You can bet a speech like this is coming.

"Hyapatia's [faked] death is tragic. But it was solely her fault."

Heaven Leigh stars in Gangbang Girl 23 from Annabolic: "Well out of three guys that did not like it a hundred on here did so I would say I did a "GREAT JOB"!!!! If you go to www.cavr.com and www.rogreviews.com I got a higher rating then the first scene.As for the facial believe me I took allot of loads its not my fault that the guys didn't have thick white loads like some of the guys on the first scene did.As for the way I took the facials if you would of watched the movie more closer you would of seen that I took a internal cum shoot and that is why I was on my back for the facial shots.You guys are quick to judge the girls when we are doing what we are told by the company that we are working for.I was told to be on my back for the facials so I could do the internal cum shoot so I could let it drip in Teris mouth.If I was on my knees with the guys cumming how was I going to do the internal cum shot?? I have no control over the editors and how and what they do so if there is something that looked bad don't attack me attack the editers,you were not there so there is allot you don't see and hear so write to the company and ask them.The only thing she did that me and Terri did not do was lick some guys ass and if you all think that is good to see by all means go right ahead and lick away I find nothing
appealing about it. I did twice the dps she did and twice the anal so if
the scene was not what you wanted then write the company and ask them
why. As for the wash your dick it tastes like soap that is out of my
control I don't edit the company does it all and why they kept it in you
have to ask them not me.We are as good as the guys are and I think we
had a great group of guys in my scene but they to were told to do
certain things like how the facials was to be done.Oh that's right you
three are not in porn so how would you know what really goes on in
porn!!!!!Go back and count how many facials I took and remember there
was two of us and only one in the first scene so she did have more on
her face.So lets think about that ok.........oh more guys more cum less
guys less cum once again not in my control but the facials I did take
and there was allot I took like a pro.As for being loud if you have seen
anything else of mine I am loud but I was told to be even louder for
this movie,once again you are not in porn so you would not know this.And
what is mugged for the camera I have no idea what you are talking
about!!!!!!!! I was told to look at the camera at all times once again
you were not there so you would not know this.If you want to judge first
know what you are judging and since you only see the final product you
have no idea what we are told to do and not to do."

Extreme Associates' Rob Black's printed up T-shirts for CES which read on the front "Vivid Girls Suck." On the back of the white T-shirts in spray-painted style black letters, goes "Extreme Girls f---." Another shirt reads on the front "Extreme Associates 3:16" and on the back, "I just f---ed your ass."

Rob Black phoned 12/31/98 at 3:40 PM. "I heard that Stevie Hirsch is very upset with my shirts and may confront me at the show. It's all in good fun, baby. Just like when he tried to use 'Extreme.' He said, 'Extreme is a generic name.' So, 'Vivid' is a generic name. Nothing personal. It's not about the company Vivid.

"Two more of my wrestling buddies came in town for New Years - Tommy Dreamer and Big Dick Dudley."

Rob's partner Tom Byron used to date Jill Kelly, the favorite to win the AVN Best Female Performer award. "She used to do private parties for the boys at Russ Hampshire's VCA. Tommy would say, 'I'd like to go,' and she'd say, 'No, they don't like to have the boyfriends around.'"

I read Black excerpts from Johny Denim's nasty column at www.unchain.com which says Rob knowingly uses minors in his films and gets away with it (referring to the Sunshine incident, a dancer who may've been underage when she appeared in a couple of Extreme videos).

Rob: "Let's find this guy [Johnny Denim], Luke... I'll talk to Stevie and Russ and get their hacker to hack that guy."

Luke: "You've been knowingly using minors? How did that get past Scoop Luke?"

Rob: "I've got a secret thing with the government and they let me use 12-year olds..."

Rob calls AVN publisher Paul Fishbein several slang terms that I don't understand.

"If Paul wants everybody to wear condoms, why does he support Ben Dover [at VCA] and German Cherrypoppers?"

"I hear that you’ve been offered a bribe… And you won’t write about it.

"I’m disappointed in you… I hear that you’re going commercial. You’re compromising…"

Rob yells out to his office mates: "XXX offered Luke a job."

Rob to Luke: "Luke, everybody in the [Extreme Associates] office says that they would lose all respect for you… Luke the Scoop, the guy who busted all the doors down, is going to sell out. Luke, I am very very disappointed in you. The guy who found out about Marc Wallice’s HIV status before anybody knew is about to sell out. I’m very upset. You’re on major scoops and you won’t print such stories as XXX and XXX."

Luke: "I’m waiting a week or two… Investigating… Russ is a valuable source. And XXX was off the record."

Rob: "That information totally validates everything you’ve said about XXX being corrupt… If you printed that, it would show that XXX is corrupt, a piece of s---… XXX is a f---ing liar turd cocksucker. That’s what it does. And you are shying away from the scoop."

Luke: "Look, XXX was talking about this a month before I started in on XXX…"

Rob: "Lukey, you don’t think that when you’re sitting with Russ and them, that it is compromising you? You don’t think that XXX is the voice of Russ Hampshire and Stevie Hirsch. And they say, ‘XXX, offer this f---ing guy a job, will you please? Shut him up, for chrissakes. Buy him out.’

"Come on Luke, you have all these things and you’re playing a patsy. Come on Luke."

Luke: "I don’t rush to publish everything. Some things I wait on. I have a good professional relationship with XXX, and with Russ Hampshire, I’m not going to throw that away for one quick story."

Rob: "You don’t wait a week or two on a story for me."

Luke: "If it was really important to you, for me to wait, I would take that very seriously. I’d be willing to wait on a story for you. If it was just a fan shooting his mouth off, I’d run that about anyone right away."

Rob: "Luuukey, come on baby. Don’t fall to the system. Don’t become commercial. We beg you."

Luke: "Let’s see what comes down in January. I’ll be pounding away on this story all January."

Rob: "Vivid Girls Suck. Extreme Girls f---. That’s the Gospel. You watch to see if anything goes down at the CES because they are all gunning for me."

Luke: "I’ll be curious to see if you get in a confrontation with Stevie Hirsch."

Rob: "You kidding me. I’ll put my hands behind my back and put my chin out. Because if he hits me, then I’ll own Vivid. I could give him a beating within an inch of his life. But I’ll let him assault me, have him arrested, and then I’ll sue him and take his company. And then I could take all those f---ing whores [Vivid Girls] and make them take it up the ass. And make them do ass-to-mouth.

"I’d love to see Janine f---ed in the ass by Van Damage. And then he f---ing grabs her head and sticks it in a f---ing toilet. It’d be great."

Rob burps loudly.

Rob: "Maybe if I owned the company I could date some good looking receptionist at Video Team. Please. Or better yet, I could be just like him and f--- all the Vivid girls.

"They’re all coming after me, Lukey. But you love me, don’t you?"

Luke: "Yes."

Rob: "Why don’t you ask him about when he was with Nikki Tyler when Nikki was with Bobby Vitale?"

Luke: "He won’t talk about his private life."

Rob: "You should keep pushing him about it. Ask him. Ask him how he feels about these T-shirts that Extreme made that say "Vivid Girls Suck." If you saw Rob Black wearing one, would you be upset, Stevie? Would you resort to some form of physical violence?"

Luke: "Yeah, I’ll ask him that but if someone doesn’t want to comment about their private life, I’m not going to push them."

Rob: "All of a sudden you’re getting soft in your old age. Are you getting nervous because they hacked your site?"

Luke: "Umm, I am pulling back in some areas. A guy’s private life… I’m queasy about digging into that unless it has a direct affect on the business. If I had proof that [AVN’s] Paul Fishbein or Gene Ross or Bryn Pryor had carried on affairs with porn girls and then rewarded them with awards and good publicity, I would run that story. But all these anonymous accusations about someone’s private life, or if his private life didn’t affect the business, I can’t run that."

Rob: "Why, did he threaten you with a lawsuit or something?"

Luke: "No, I just don’t think it is right to pry into people’s private life. It’s below the belt."

Rob: "All of a sudden."

Luke: "Seriously, I am moderating and changing and pulling back in some areas."

Rob: "I’m still making no deal with Max Hardcore. He’s even below me and I’m pretty low. He’s lower than me. I’ve gotta go. I love you."

Luke: "Thanks for returning my call."

Rob: "I LOVE YOU!"

Luke: "I love you."

Rob: "Bye."

Bambam4392@aol.com has ten wishes for 1999:

1. Bianca Trump and Brandy Alexander kiss and make up and do the hottest pussy sucking, asshole rimming, strap on dildo f---ing lesbian scene in history.
2. Jenna Jamison does a 20 man interracial gangbang with all the out of work NBA millionaires (she'd do it in a minute, with her its ALL about money)
3. Ed Powers, Randy West and Herschel Savage all put their collective minds together and do a mainstream remake of "The Sunshine Boys" then RETIRE.
4. Max Hardcore signs up Vivid's hottest girls, Heather Hunter, Jenteal, Nikki Tyler, Chasey Lain,etc, and shows them how REAL porn starlets earn their money.
5. Ole Blue Eyes, Tracy Adams makes a comeback does anal, interracial, etc, etc, no matter HOW MUCH weight she's gained, she'll ALWAYS be sexy.
6. Fran Drescher's show the "Nanny" gets cancelled, she ends up in US
Bankruptcy court and she then shortly appears on the steps of Rodney Moore and Rodney makes her a STAR. I hope Wolf Savage does a complete body cavity search of Fran with his cock.
7. Traci Lords comes back to porn and does what she does best which is f---ing and sucking, certainly NOT acting.
8. The long rumored Whitney Houston/Bobby Brown xxx tape appears and is put on the market as well as a Tommy Lee/Heather Locklear tape(I know Tommy must have taped her at one time or another.
9. The AVN video awards go to the most deserving stars/starlets, not the most hyped, nor biggest sycophants, nor the most highly promoted, but those that f---ED THE BEST ON SCREEN.
10. Monica Lewinsky stars in a remake of "Deep Throat" and then breaks
Spontaneous Xcstacy's 552 man gangbang record, THEN breaks Baskin Robbin's record for eating the most consecutive Matterhorns. Then as her size expands she gets signed by Tons of Fun video and at 500 pounds f---s Ron (the Hedgehog) Jeremy in an even more disgusting scene then when he f---ed Earthquake. As a climax to the scene, Ron looks at the bloated,contorted, obsese Monica and barfs. Linda Tripp then comes out and licks the vomit clean off of Monica and says THATS WHAT FRIENDS ARE FOR. Former Prez. Bill Clinton then comes out and
buttf---s Linda as Hillary takes on Paula Jones, Jennifer Flowers and Katherine Willey with a big strap on dildo until they all cum simultaneously and shriek out "you da man". Janet Reno then ends the scene by pulling out a schlong that would make Long Dong Silver jealous and performing fellatio on her/himself. As Ken Starr stands by and jerks off on the constitution. What a way to end the Century.

Ridley99 writes on RAME about well endowed male performer Tony Titanic who appears in several videos for Mike Esposito's Gentleman's Video: "He has finally arrived, a guy with a 18 inch dick that actually works. I was leery of checking out this guy. How many times did I buy a Dick Rambone movie only to come out feeling f---ed when Rambone only appeared in one cheap scene and the rest of the movie was filled up with Mark Wallice or Billy Dee. The reason being Rambone had a hard time getting wood, but I blame the production people. Their mistake was to put Rambone in big budgeted movies with a thing called a script and a tight shooting schedule. They put to much pressure on Dick's dick.

"Tony has it right, no budget and no script, just a bed and a video camera and plenty of f---ing. Sure Tony has trouble sometimes, but he is given the time to recover, the pressure is off. The best part is that Tony does all the f---ing in his movies. Except for one scene where Tony everready appears but both men do the girl ( Saki ) so its all good. I rented three of his movies last week. "Its so Long ", "Size Counts " and a movie with a similar title. His dick is enormous...Even bigger the Holmes. And when it gets hard it looks like a black version of the Washington monument. The head is as big as an orange. It has big nasty looking veins running through it. To f--- tony literally has to sit down with the girl laying on her back and him sitting between her legs and force the monster into her. Other times the girl lays adjacent to his hip with her legs wide spread and him laying flat on his back . The best part, unlike Holmes and Rambone who had laid back personalities, and treated the girls overly gently, Tony will have none of that. There is a lot of Max Hardcore in Tony. He curses at the girl, shoves their mouths down on his dick, gagging them, and f---s them with all the energy of a TT Boy. Tony is a skinny black man in his late 30s and he takes no s---. He is the real deal."

Anthony Jung writes on RAME: "In the movie "Dream Trap", a movie that looked as if it was about some college co-eds (in one scene, they were playing volleyball, and some boys were spying on them as the girls were topless, and a man in a military outfit in a canoe reprimanded them, and then saw them also through binoculars) who was the brunette with huge tits who took off her bikini top on the pool diving board, while the girl with tiny tits also took off hers? Is she in any other movies? In the movie "Mortuary Academy", is actress Bobbi Pavis (the Sexy Dancer) topless? She was also in "Malibu Bikini Shop" trying on a top in a one way mirror. In the movie "The New Age", does anyone know if actress Dana Kaminsky is topless, like she was in "Hot Resort" pulling down her white dress on the boat while taking the man's hand, who was lying down, and placing it on her breast?"

Oink: "WOW! Bobbi Pavis and Dana Kaminsky!! I thought I was the only guy in the world who remembered their all too short scenes in the movies mentioned. Both are outstanding physical specimens. Bobbi's scene in Malibu Bikini Shop was a show stopper.Too bad we don't see more of them in these types of movies."

Apornfan lists on RAME about mainstream movies: "Simulated/Suggestive Sex With Oral Climax or Facial:

1. Single White Female - Implied Orgasm During Blowjob.  Did JJL really say to Bridget Fonda that her boyfriend actually came in her mouth?

2. Crimes of Passion - Kathleen Turner Wipes Face After Blowjob

Verbal References To Cum In The Face

1. Body Double
2. Leaving Las Vegas
3. Pulp Fiction
4. Taxi Driver

Disqualified or Slightly Off-Topic

World According To Garp - Just a weird oral sex scene or implication
Silence Of The Lambs - A twisted definition of "cumshot"

Tom Schipper: "In SINGLE WHITE FEMALE, Jennifer Jason Leigh impersonates Bridget Fonda's boyfriend by crawling into bed with him while he is sleeping and giving him head. He soon discovers who it is, but he is so close he goes ahead and blows his load in her mouth. They don't show it explicitly, but her head is there, and he has an orgasm. She later mentions to Bridget Fonda's character that he came in her mouth.

"Also, in CRIMES OF PASSION, Kathleen Turner is talking up/turning on a guy, rubbing his crotch, unzipping his fly. She talks about playing his
flute til the sweet music comes flowing out, or something like that.
They show his face, and him maoning and groaning and climaxing. Then her wiping off her mouth and her smeared lipstick and makeup."

Feildown@aol.com: "The best non-porn facial I've seen comes in Bloodstone: Subspecies 2. An unexpected spurt of blood noisily splashes sultry Melanie Shatner's face. She grimaces in horror, which makes it even better. It's blood, not cum, I know, but for a visual and not merely discussed or suggested facial in mainstream film, it's the best you'll find. There can be little doubt of the filmmaker's intent in the scene."