Friday, July 20th, 2001

Luke Confronts Himself In The Jerusalem Report

Narcissist that I am, I've walked to my corner newsstand every day for the past week seeking out the July 30th issue of the bimonthly magazine The Jerusalem Report. Why? Because I knew I was profiled and I was scared.

You see, for the past decade, I've been leading a double life. There's life in the outside world which generally runs along the rules and customs of the goyim. And then there's the special sacred intense life, the one lived within Jewish religious life. Outsider profiles don't have the potential to affect me as much as an insider profile. Only one of those has occurred so far, and that was in the January 7th, 2000 issue of the Forward.com.

Friday afternoon I finally got my hands on the latest Report, bought the copy for $5:35 and eagerly looked for my article. First I quickly scanned it to see if I was revealed in a particularly horrible light. I wasn't. Relieved, I closed the magazine and walked down the street, hoping to restore my emotional equilibrium.

I turned off the main thoroughfare after five minutes of walking, and steeling myself, read through every word of the article. It was fair.

Confronting a fair article on oneself is like going to therapy. It's like seeing a documentary of your own life. It's like looking into a mirror and seeing yourself as others see you. When journalists, like Sheli Teitelbaum in this case, do a fair job, you can't blame the media. If you read something you don't like, if you're embarrassed about how you come across, you realize that you created that. And you have to face yourself.

Overall, I do not come across impressively in the article. In fact, I come across as a schizoid creep.

Teitelbaum writes:

Luke F-rd has a problem. Actually, the 35-year old Aussie expat has several. But the one we focus on while strolling through L.A.'s Pico-Robertson Orthodox Jewish stronghold is this: How can an apparently sincere convert to Orthodox Judaism secure a place within a community that would never be able tto stomach the way he makes his living - if he were to actually come clean with them about what he does?

Ford covers the pornographic film industry. He interviews performers, producers and distributors; he reports back from shooting sets and trade shows and awards ceremonies; he hangs out with people from the business to elicit the latest "dirt"; when things are quiet, he publishes a running Internet rumination about his own difficulties balancing the demands of an unsavory profession with his own attempts to live an observant life; he has even written a book, "A History of X: 100 Years of Sex in Film," published in 1999.

Ordinarily, covering a controversial beat, however distasteful, would not present an insurmountable obstacle to gaining acceptance within the Orthodox Jewish community. It would be hard to imagine, for instance, a journalist being barred from polite society because he covers organized crime or the drug trade.

Ford, however, is not your everyday journalist. In fact, some of his philosophical leanings would be hard for anyone to swallow: He often cites the writings of a rabi American neo-Nazi, William Pierce, and views liberalism, communism, socialism, feminism and Freudianism as largely Jewish-instigated afflictions every bit as perfidious as the field he covers.

Asked by a recent visitor to his website how he was able to reconcile his vocation with his identity as an Orthodox Jew, Ford wrote:

"I view my primary Jewish obligation to my work is to do it well. Journalism is an honorable profession. I'm a journalist who writes on pornography. I no more endorse pornography than journalists who write on the Mafia endorse the Mafia. Yes, my website is sponsored by porn companies. So yes, I do make money from porn. That is very troubling from a Jewish perspective. I have no answer to that. A third party does operate all the ads on my site, and I receive a regular weekly check. The third party can sell the ads to whoever will pay."

Although he makes no bones about his own dim view of the burgeoning porn industry and the people associated with it, Ford is not loath to hang out with some of them, commiserate with others, or adopt their smutty terminology. Indeed, he has even appeared as a clothed extra in some of the productions he has written about.

This kind of familiarity with a completely outre milieu could not possibly sit well with his Orthodox friends and associates, some of whom had mentored him and supported his conversion unaware of how he earned his daily bread. There is simply too large a gap between the titillating yet obscure celebration of sexual desire in such Biblical sources as Song of Songs and the mechanistic rutting in Jewish-oriented porn videos like "Debbie Duz Dishes," "Mitzi's Honor" and "The Three Daughters."

And so it should come as no surprise that when the leaders of XXX [synagogue] - where Ford has been studying Talmud on a daily basis - were recently apprised of his profession, they were less than thrilled. As much angered by his misrepresentation of himself as by his website, the rabbis tripped him of his tefillin, handed back a $600-donation and drummed him out of the building.

A New York Times survey of the industry this spring referred to Ford as the "Matt Drudge of porn." Drudge, founder of the The Drudge Report website, gained notoriety when he beat the mainstream media in breaking the Monica Lewinsky story. But while Drudge has parlayed his scoop into paid gigs on TV and radio, Ford has not quite managed to approximate his success. Supported solely by ads, his site brought in a comparatively modest $40,000 last year, and will likely fare th same this year as well. And he lives a spartan existence, spending his nights in a sleeping bag on the floor in a small converted garage in this middle-class Jewish neighborhood. His kitchen consists of a microwave and a hot plate. The tiny apartment is packed with stacks of old magazines; a lone bookshelf contains titles by Jewish radio talk-show host Dennis Prager. A copy of his own book is nowhere to be seen.

Ford's website attracts upwards of 1,600 visitors daily. His running narrative is peppered with e-mails from various industry types and hangers-on who hold forth on their latest gripes and gossip, and fans who can't believe their own good fortune at being able to interact with their heroes on-line. On any given day, readers will find up for discussion such subjects as: Mafia involvement (still an issue, he reports); why the women who perform in the upper-crusty "Vivid" videos so often seem inanimate (partly it's drugs; partly, it's because the company thinks the pose of unavailability is alluring); what the industry hopes to accomplish in an upcoming Free Speech Coalition visit to the California state capitol in Sacramento (making blue films is no longer illegal, and the industry wants it to stay that way); the pros and cons of breast implants, and why it's so hard for a guy like him to find a spouse who is not only more religiously observant than he is, but unfazed by his professional associations - and hot to boot.

Ford also calls upon the services of a host of imaginary characters, whom he uses as agent provocateurs. These include the redoubtable Haim Amalek ( a once-legendary performer and videographer now living quietly on New York's Upper West Side) and deranged starlet Cindy Plenum, who invariably take Ford to task for his journalistic practices, his affinity for Orthodox Judaism, and all the other glaring contradictions he embodies.

The son of Dr. D--mond Ford, am Australian Seventh-Day Adventist theologian who ultimately caused a split in the church over his insistence that its members were no more assured of salvation than any other Christians, Luke F-rd seems bent upon emulating his father's propensity for shaking things up. For instance, although warned by his psychotherapist and friends not to do this interview, for fear it might find its way into the hands of members of his synagogue, Ford says he waved them off. "I suppose I just like the attention," he explains.

At 16, Ford saw his first Playboy centerfold. The sight of such unblemished female perfection, he recounts, result in an erotic epiphany. He became a passionate collector of girlie magazines, which he kept buried in the woods outside his house, near Walla Walla, Australia. Before he burned them in a fit of righteous resolve, they were, he acknowledges, very well worn indeed.

During his first year in college, at UCLA, Ford succumbed to chrnoic fatigue syndrome, an affliction, he says, kept him bedridden for six years. He used up his savings searching for a cure, and still regards the disease as a metaphor for his own conflicted existence.

Growing up among Adventists, who Ford says continue to regard Jews as Christ-killers, he never actually met a Jew before entering college. In 9th grade, though, at a Christian day school in Auburn, California, he came across some of Chaim Potok's novels, which he found perplexing. "Judaism," he recalls, "appeared strange and irrelevant. Living in religious ghettos where they perform hundreds of minute commandments, Orthodox Jews showed no sense of mission to the world." Later, though, Ford encountered the work of Jewish radio host and ethicist Prager, and found himself convinced of the efficacy of Judaism as a pathway to a proper, moral existence. As a result, he embarked on a two-year conversion program with an Orthodox rabbi. In May 1992, he became a Jew, (a conversion that has recently been called into question by some local rabbinical leaders).

In 1994, having recovered somewhat from chronic fatigue, Ford took up what he describes as a job offer from Prager as a personal assistant. But the job, and the relationship, fell through; Ford's website mentions that in 1998 he was accused of stalking the man. Ford rejects this, insisting that he had begun an autobiography of Prager during the early 90s, and that although initially cooperative, the talk-show host withdrew his sanction in 1997, and threatened a defamation suit. For his part, Prager doesn't recall having offered Ford a job at all, and says the threatened suit was meant to prevent Ford from publishing copyrighted material on his website.

Shortly after his blowout with Prager and a stint pursuing an acting career, Ford wrote "A History of X," a chronological saga on the genre. "Why porn? I suppose it sort of sums up how I lead my life. I have always had a naughty streak, and I suppose I had a salacious interest in the industry. But primarily, I thgouth this presented an opportunity to distinguish myself. I am now at the top of my profession - even if it's a sleazy profession."

Ford has broken some stories that not only got picked up in the mainstream press, but by identifying a particular porn star who appeared ot have made himself a deliberate vector poitn for a spate of HIV infections, may well have saved lives. His book does a thorough, if somewhat perfunctory and even crude, job of chronicling the industry, and the newsletter doesn't shy away from addressing the moral pitfalls of his profession or its players.

Ford makes the case that however much one might wish to overlook it, porn brings in an awful lot o f money, most of from mainstream, otherwise decent and law-abiding consumers. In the process, "porn chic" - the genre's trappings and aesthetic - has made its way into a variety of media, including film, fashion, TV, advertising and popular music.

Ford's somewhat Gonzo, stream-of-consciousness chronicles, however, have alienated many in the industry, and many producers and distributors now refuse to talk with him, and strive to keep him away from their sets and out of their hair. Yet his self-appointed crusades have done little to win over fellow Jews. Some like Long Island-based journalist Sheldon Ranz, who has also covered the industry, are appalled by his apparent internalization of various anti-Semitic canards in his analysis of the industry. In his website archives, for instance, Ford devotes significant attention to the Jewish role in the evolution of the porn universe, adn lists the original Jewish names of legions of performers. Ford insists that pornography constitutes a deliberate attempt by "non-Jewish Jews," alienated from normative Judaism and Christian mores, to undermine Western civilization.

Perhaps most glaring is his fascination with the American Nazi propagandist Dr. Pierce, who claims that Jews dominate pornography so that they can mount an assault on traditional Western mores. "Nazism is my own favorite kind of pornography," Ford explains. "I'd say I find myself agreeing with anywhere from 50 to 80 percent of what Dr. Pierce has to say."

Says one local Jewish observer: "My sense of him is that while he seems very sincere in his religiosity, his socialization, Jewishly, may still be a tad incomplete." But, he says, "there's a saying that the Jews were given the Torah because they needed it most. We are a passionate people, and before receiving the Torah were prone to channel those passions into all kinds of illicit behaviors. By virtue of his conversion, Luke was most certainly at Sinai with the rest of us. But in some ways, he missed out on the ensuing millenia. He may just need a little catch-up time."

Luke says: I thought the piece fair and balanced and funny as hell in places. Here are some minor corrections:

* I have no hot plate.
* I average 7000 visitors a day to my site, 7000 unique IPs hitting my site every day.
* I don't view Freudianism as an affliction
* I sleep on the floor, on a sheet and under blankets but no sleeping bag
* I burned my girlie magazines outside my family's home in Auburn, California
* I got sick my first year at UCLA, but my fourth year in college
* Some Adventists regard Jews as Christ-killers, but perhaps only a minority of Adventists
* I'd describe my conversion program as small "o" orthodox
* Dennis Prager never specifically offered me a job, only mentioned to me in Tampa Bay, in January, 1994, that if I was ever in Los Angeles, he might have work for me.
* Dennis Prager never cooperated in any biography or autobiography of him, nor did I seek or expect his cooperation. In my own autobiography, started in the early 90s, I mentioned Prager's affect on my life. And these scribblings later led me to start www.DennisPrager.net in early 1998, a website unaffiliated with Prager.
* Prager never threatened me with a defamation suit, it was for other things, including copyright violation.
* I regard Dr. William Pierce as evil but an evil that needs to be confronted, not ignored. And sometimes even evil folks like Dr. Pierce will touch on important issues.

Why Are Some People So Mean?

Cindy Plenum writes: Hi Luke, its me - Cindy Plenum! When a friend told me that I just got mentioned in one of those jewish magazines they sell, I really felt honored. Like you, I ran to the nearest out of town news parlor and bought a copy. But what do I find?

"Ford also calls upon the services of a host of imaginary characters, whom he uses as agent provocateurs. These include ...deranged starlet Cindy Plenum"

I have never hurt anyone and I am not the flighty ethereal flake people say I am. I am me, Cindy, and I have feeling just the same like everybody else so who is this man to make fun of me like this? Luke, please pass this on to him and make him retract these mean things in the next issue, or he will be hearing from my lawyer friend David Abrams and his friend Ray Luca. Cindy XXXOOO

Chaim writes: Hey, this Teitelbaum yutz missspelled "Chaim".

Luke says: For my readers who are Orthodox Jews and Christians, there is a special ad free entrance to my site: http://www.l-keford.com/text.htm

XXX writes: I don't think being in the jrep has much influence except giving Sheli a chance to recycle his writing. It's all about context, right? I'd say the story is maybe too antiseptic. And so was that piece in the Forward. Not enough, for the lack of a better word, sexiness in it. Teitelbaum strikes me as something of a bore in print, although he does have an interesting perspective that's articulated well, so maybe that makes him a good writer. I would've wanted to read more hostility from your ex-shul's perspective as well but i guess it's not their job to bad-mouth you.

putativejew: Great stuff all around. Continued thanks for providing me with more entertainment for free than at least what i get out of my monthly cable bill. not that i wouldn't want to go to LA (or NY) but please consider coming up to Toronto in the fall just because I know you can get booked as a guest on an infinite number of programs (again, just given your track record with the NFB and CBC) that'd provide some kind of template for what can be acheived in the good ol' USA. It's the same reason that Xaveria Hollander first became a celebrity in toronto, too--not much has changed in 30 years.

Luke's Reactions As He Read The JR Piece

I winced when I saw the headline "The X-Man." I hate it when I'm in Jewish life, or polite life, and someone says to me, 'Oh, you're the porno man.' I'm not. I'm a moral philosopher, a commentator on the human condition. A Jesus Christ like figure ministering to fallen women.

Having found a new measure of celebrity (more space devoted to me in this issue then to the obituary of novelist Mordecai Richler), how will I greet the Shabbas Queen tomorrow? I suspect that it will be with a bit of extra spring in my gait.

In fact, as I read the Shlomo Schwartzberg obit of Richler, I saw some stunning parallels to myself. For one, this Jerusalem Report article means my obituary from polite Jewish life in my neighborhood.

Here are some excerpts from Shlomo that may hold out hope for my longterm redemption in Jewish life:

"What will the goyim think?" people asked, an initial refrain that inevitably widened, as Richler found himself labeled "self-hating."

I recall my parents and other adults holding Richler in disregard, chiefly because he "criticized" the Jewish community and made us "look bad" in "their" eyes.

It's all the more ironic then, that in later years, Mordecai Richler became something of the darling of the Canadian Jewish intelligentsia. He was always being invited to Jewish book fairs or given awards by Jewish organizations, which he happily, and bemusedly, accepted. That didn't stop him from satirizing them, however: I'm thinking of the United Jewish Appeal's Irv Nussbaum, in "Barney's Version," who practically salivated whenever there was an anti-Semitic incident, because it meant that nervous Jews would donate more to the UJA. Much of the reason for Richler's growing acceptance among the Jews was that as his international reputation soared - the New York Times put his photo on its front page after he died - we kvelled to be associated with him in any way.

We also liked his self-sufficiency, something that characterized him from an early age. He very quickly rebelled against the strictures of his Orthodox Jewish home...

Luke writes Chaim: "Hey, I don't like the JR quote that Nazism is my favorite form of pornography... More like, Dr Pierce, Yggdrassil and their ilk are my favorite form...how should I phrase it for future interviews?"

Chaim replies: "You gotta stop cribbing from me so literally and at least learn to put this stuff into your own words. Which will be difficult for you to do, given that these journalists are convinced (and writely so!) that I am really you. Luke, did you know that this Teitelbaum guy is related to your friend Fischel Teitelbaum?"

AMALEK's Plan to Help You Fit In AND Do Porn

Chaim Amalek writes Luke: You know, if you REALLY want to fit in, you need to marry a jewish princess. Amy Sohn. And if you want to marry her you must meet her. She was a guest on the old Berkowitz show, so certainly his producer (that jewess who sells dildos to lesbians - you know, the one who will not date me) knows how to reach her and set it up. Once you have jewish kids, you will be even more untouchable than you already are among the haredim.

Oh, heart be still. I got an email from Jewish Journal columnist Teresa Strasser of TeresaStrasser.com: "Luke - Thanks so much for your note. It's nice to know I have a fan in the world of porn, even if you did refer to me as "self-obsessed." I've been called worse."

putativejew: what's she talking about? OF COURSE she's self-obsessed. could you imagine a guy writing the kind of columns she does about dating life? he'd have women he never met taking out restraining orders ...

Chaim Amalek writes Putative Mark: Of course, the billion dollar question is "what is the next big thing?" i wonder, has anyone tried to construct a network or REALLY minor stations that lack interesting programming? MAYBE there is where some opportunity lies to transport a show from humble beginnings to something akin to a national audience. If you wanted to syndicate a program, how would you go about it? There is a real market for an anti-MTV sort of show to appeal to all the disaffected youths of America who will never look like the folks they see on MTV or VH1. the more monolithic the culture becomes in its permitted expression, the greater the opportunity for someone to break out of the mold and do something different. So how about it, Mark. Any ideas of what you could do?

Putative Mark writes Chaim: i hate to say it, because he's such a stubborn bastard, but i'm hung up on the idea of LF.com being translatable to the airwaves in the same way drudge has ... yes, we agree luke is an incorrigible human being to deal with, but the mere *idea* of him getting something out there to the masses, so long as its porn-related content is 49 per cent remains quite appealing. the problem (or maybe the solution) is that so much of radio that's not political lurks in the shadow of stern, and that shows no sign of letting up even as the ratings of stern per se are sinking. i don't know how one gets beyond the monolithic culture to broadcast to "youths," though? has anyone ever, really? i mean, that's what books are for ...

Chaim Amalek writes Putative Mark: Well, I always thought that the popular appeal of the Ramones in the very era that brought us disco music, Jimmy Carter, Gay Rights, and the People's Temple Cult in San Francisco/Guyana was a demonstration of the existence of a market that is always waiting to be tapped. No, it can be done for this niche (what I shall call anti-MTV), which remains open; the problem is that it takes a LOT of energy to do it, a LOT of drive. (Just look at all those young people who come to New York to wait on tables.) I have some ideas, more drive, but no media talent at all. Luke has a certain mediagenic appeal, but just does not have even one tenth the requisite drive, and there really is nothing that anyone can do about that. It is like being left-handed versus being right-handed, or shy instead of social. 35 year old men like he who are content to live in sewage cannot change, no matter how much those around him wish they would (for what are partly selfish reasons). Just consider where he is now versus where he was a year ago, at 34. Not much movement there, eh?

So what about you? You have had some measure of media fame in your youth. Have you ever given any thought to making another run at it? If you have, consider shifting your focus from writing to radio/television. People these days just don't read very much.

PS Sigh, I write this knowing it cannot work, but have you ever given thought to teaming up with Luke in the way the Sherpas teamed up with that rich bitch who wanted to climb Mt. Everest by literally carrying her up the mountain? No, forget it. Even in that case, the climb turned out to be a disaster.

Yes Emmanuel, There IS a Chaim Amalek

Skeptical journalist Emmanuelle Richard writes Chaim Amalek: "Dear Chaim: I am a French journalist who specializes in pornography. Some of my big media friends say there is no Chaim Amalek. My editor says "If you see it on the Internet it's so." Please tell me the truth. Is there a Chaim Amalek?"

Chaim Amalek responds (and he only responds to her, and not the dozens of other emailers who question his existence because she is young, French and beautiful though married):

Emmanuel, your friends are wrong. They have been affected by the skepticism of a skeptical age. They do not believe except what they see. They think that nothing can be which is not comprehensible by their little minds. All minds, Emmanuel, whether they be men's or women's, are little. In this great universe of ours man is a mere insect, an ant, in his intellect, as compared with the boundless world about him, as measured by the intelligence of grasping the whole of truth and knowledge.

Yes, Emmanuel, there is a Chaim Amalek. He exists as certainly as love and generosity and devotion exist, and you know that they abound and give to your life its highest beauty and joy. Alas! how dreary would be the world if there were Chaim Amalek! It would be as dreary as if there were no Emmanuels. There would be no womanly faith then, no poetry, no romance to make tolerable this existence. We should have no enjoyment, except in sense and sight. The eternal light with which the internet fills the world would be extinguished.

Not believe in Chaim Amalek! You might as well not believe in equality, liberty, or fraternity! The most real things in the world are those that neither journalists nor porn stars can see. Nobody can conceive or imagine all the wonders there are unseen and unseeable in the world.

Only faith, fancy, poetry, love, romance, can push aside that curtain and view and picture the supernal beauty and glory beyond. Is it all real? Ah, Emmanuel, in all this world there is nothing else real and abiding.

No Chaim Amalek! Thank God! he lives, and he dwells in New York on the Upper West Side. And for so long as internet archives are maintained of l-keford.com, so too shall he live on.

Zupko: A manual for the future Ted Bundys of the world

Gregory Bowman writes: Gene, Thank you for your comments and allowing me to express my personal views on Tom Zupko's art for art sake. I do recall the scene in which Farina clocks the woman in Get Shorty; I don't recall her having a baton up her ass at the time or getting a load of semen in her face. The Rock wasn't anally raping Mick Foley at the time he hit him with the chair.

Granted; it was wrong. But it is a far cry from the shock value during a sex scene. Crimes are crimes, sex crimes are a whole different level of victimization.

Indeed, I have yet to experience Zupko. Maybe I will love his work. Maybe I will want to beat you with a steel chair after watching his movies for convincing me that there is value in them. But your assumption that through experience one can become less traumatized by shock is a bit askew. A bit reminiscent of a reverse "A Clockwork Orange" philosophy.

I would think that through experience one would be more sensitive to certain things. This is not the case with many who view Zupko with the eager anticipation of shock in a SEXUAL context; this is sexual addiction. The addictive process lends itself to a greater need for the high be it more violence, more shock or more bizarre behavior. Jacking off to the J.C. Penny catalog bra section doesn't cut it anymore.

Zupko may very well be the best at what he does but "art for arts sake" may have limits. Unless, of course, you would argue that snuff films are acceptable for arts sake. Selling the most movies does not make the shocking degradation of women more acceptable; it merely shows the advent of a new generation of shock addicted citizens who demand it. Even more alarming given the consequences.

The only one hurt in the making of a Zupko movie is Zupko - I disagree. For when shock becomes normal to a sex addict, where does he go for an increased high? Does he roam the streets looking for a woman he can smear with feces and shove kitchen appliances up her ass? What if no women will agree? According to the Zupko philosophy......tough s---! Shove a flag up her ass and f--- her for the glory. Art for arts sake is a far cry from that kind of sexual degradation.

Personal responsibility is a grand notion but with addiction there is the loss of control. You say only Zupko is harmed by his own movies. Come the day when some addicted adolescent finds his daddy's collection(while daddy is serving time for beating and raping his wife)of Zupko on the top shelf of the closet. That day will be when one individual thinks this degree of degradation is considered normal healthy sexual relations. When he rapes his first girl in high school using a pool cue or a bottle; will Zupko be there to straighten things out?

Yes, these are adult movies intended to be seen by adults. However, this kind of vision, when placed within the context of sex, is harmful. Not many viewers who are gratified by it would be considered adult. If you do not see this, it proves my point that you have been anesthetized by your saturation of porn. Forgive me for not wanting to reach that basement of sexuality. I am confident that when I reach a grand old age I will have the opportunity to s--- and pee on myself and maybe even get a boner.....in a nursing home of course. This being the consequences of senility; NOT SEXUALITY.

I am sure you are old enough to agree that the normalcy of today is far more abnormal if viewed from your eyes 20 years ago. Is this an excuse to allow the dominos of sexual degradation to continue to fall? Will you and I be having this discussion two years from now about rape and torture home-videos and snuff films? Art for arts sake? Rape for rape's sake?

I agree that life's experiences mold us and I hope to have many more years in which to mold my opinion of what is healthy and what is considered depraved. To say I will seek the farthest ranges of human degradation along that journey is inconsistent with my lust for what is valued and memorable.

Blatantly obvious theatrics to you or Zupko may be something different to an obsessed viewer, most of which you would not find within the range that Masters and Johnson defines as healthy. His reality may very well be changed by Zupko. Wasn't a teen found guilty for killing his younger sister? His excuse was that he was merely mimicking body slams as seen on WWF wrestling. Life imitating art?

Zupko's works, art for art sake, may certainly be tutorials for tomorrow's Ted Bundy. Lets not forget the lawsuits filed by those who claimed "the lyrics made me do it". I dearly hope that Tom Zupko never has to face the family in court of a girl who was raped and murdered by one of his viewing fans. My assumption, which may be wrong and only taken from personal observation, is Tom Zupko would enjoy the experience and add it to his resume. There is more to life than selling tape, maybe not to Tom Zupko, but maybe he lacks in the experiences that make...... nobility. Comments? Nathans_parable@yahoo.com.

Jeff Steward vs Bill Margold

Legend Video's Nelson Ayala emails: We the people of JM Productions, in order to form a more perfect union amongst pornographers, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, call for the disbandment of Bill Margold’s (Anti) Freedom of Speech Coalition.

A hypocritical, opportunistic coward, Bill Margold represents all that is wrong within the adult industry. In the wake of his recent ramblings against American Bukkake and hardcore adult entertainment in general, we at JM Productions look forward to exposing Bill Margold’s (Anti) Freedom of Speech Coalition as the corrupt organization it truly is to both retailers and consumers alike.

From this point on, a JM Productions informercial against Bill Margold’s (Anti) Freedom of Speech Coalition will be featured in all JM videos and dvds. A montage of historic moments such as the 1989 protests at Tiananman Square, the raising of the flag over Iwo Jima, the raising of the cum bong over Kiki D’aire in American Bukkake #11, and the fall of the Berlin Wall will be intercut with images of fat cats from Bill Margold’s (Anti) Freedom of Speech Coalition stuffing their faces with money and cigars while they count your money.

Finally, we will see Jeff Steward in a prison cell as the bars slam shut, the American flag and Constitution burning behind him as he asks, “Is this your idea of freedom of speech?” This informercial will be available to all production companies who do not adhere to Bill Margold’s “Freedom of speech, but watch what you say” philosophy. For your copy, call Jeff Steward at JM Productions. www.jerkoffzone.com.

Pasadena's KPCC FM 99.3 Discusses Porn

I listened to Larry Mantle's show AirTalk on KPCC Friday morning.

Journalist Mark Cromer: "The Cambria List outlined a host of sexual acts...[that were possible targets for obscenity prosecution]. This list said that it would no longer be suitable to distribute films featuring black males with white females. But not the reverse because that would be condoned and sanctioned by the Republican party."

Host: "Where is the evidence for that?"

Mark; "I'm being somewhat facetious. But that was one of the more disturbing..."

Host: "But this comes from the industry..."

Mark: "Yes, but it responds to what they think the Republicans want to see. I think the Bush Administration is worse [than Regan and Bush Sr]. Evidence? John Ashcroft. And Bush on the campaign trail stated flatly that pornography has no place in a civil society."

Host: "That seems like a jump for the industry to take a statement like that, designed to appease the right, and turn that into prosecutions of the industry."

Attorney Jeffrey Douglas: "There have been two major federal sting operations in the last two Republican administrations. In 1987, about 30 mailorder companies were targeted under the name PostPorn. All but two of the companies targeted, the principles went to prison and the companies were disbanded. This was intended to eliminate, the Attorney General said, to eliminate the scourge of hardcore materials through the mail.

"Then in 1990, 30 more companies, primarily production companies were targeted. Because of a change in law and less ideology, only a small number of individuals were imprisoned and only two or three companies went out of business.

"What's striking is when one examines the materials targeted, they're indistinguishable from materials distributed, before, during and after the prosecutions. The arbitrariness of the obscenity definition allows for extraordinary discretion on the part of the feds."

Host to journalist Emmanuelle Richard: "Adult Video News... You tried to pin down where they got their figures and they won't able to give you good documentation."

Emmanuelle: "Dan Ackman from Forbes.com read the piece by Frank Rich published in the New York Times Sunday magazine. Ackman was suspicious of the figures and called AVN and asked them to break down the numbers. AVN, which is like the Variety of the porn industry, the editor there couldn't answer Ackman's questions. And of course the publisher Paul Fishbein couldn't answer any questions or return calls. Ackman did his own calculations."

Host: "And he came up with much lower figures."

Emmanuelle: "Nobody knows how big this industry is."

Host: "Mark, did you want to say something?"

Mark Cromer, stalwart industry defender: "I did. I'd really like to jump in and note that I am disturbed by the discussion is porn a four billion dollar or a ten billion dollar a year industry. I think the more pertinent point is that porn pervades in our culture, in our society, to the greatest extent it clearly ever has. I'm not sure what the point is when you have Forbes and these mainstream media outlets... I understand what Emmanuelle is saying about checking your sources, checking your facts, and doing your appropriate research and try to get a handle..."

Host: "You think it is nitpicking?"

Mark: "I think it is the Los Angeles Times or Forbes saying we've ignored this huge industry for so long and we can no longer ignore. Now we're going to tell you that it really isn't that big. But as it is getting bigger, we're going to start covering it. The clearest example of how mainstream porn is today is if you went to a university 20 years ago and asked a student, male or female, who their favorite porn star was, or favorite porn movie, you'd probably get laughed at, yelled at... They'd walk away from you. You do that today, you will get a male or female student, in many instances, tell you about their favorite porn star, what movies they're in... That shows how prevalent and accepted that really is and that's driving the Republicans crazy.

"The show's just starting [with the Bush administration]. If we can all get back here a year and a half from now, we could talk about some concrete examples. Maybe some people in the industry behind bars. Jeffrey's workload may have increased by then..."

Alex in Irvine calls: "I'm disturbed by the resurgency of teen porn and the push towards younger and younger looking girls. I don't see how that will help the cause of porn. It is alienating moderates... You see this push towards Barely Legal and the youngest teens on the web... I enjoy porn but I refuse to watch that stuff because it creates a really negative connotation towards the whole industry. It pushes to the forefront - this is what porn's about. Getting our kids screwed up."

Host: "Seems to me that niche products like Max Hardcore could be more off putting..."

Jeffrey: "Because there's so little capital required to enter the industry, a few thousand dollars can make you a producer, there's enormous competition. People on the production end are responsive to the slightest indication of trend from their audience. The flip side of the self censorship from the traditional portion of the industry is the new entrepreneurs who've never experienced a prosecution and can't imagine something could happen."

Mark: "I think it is absurd that an adult filmmaker is restricted in ways that a mainstream filmmaker would not be. The Graduate was essentially a film about incest. When Taboo [featuring mother - son sex] came out, it sold well. I don't think there's been an increase in mother - son incest."

Seymore Butts attorney Roger John Diamond: "We've asked the Deputy City Attorney handling this case, is this part of some giant conspiracy of the government to go after a lot of people or is this an isolated instance? We're told this has no connection with the Ashcroft or Bush Administration. This is an effort by the local vice squad. This case began before the Bush-Gore election. I think it is just a couple of vice squad guys looking for things to do."

Mark: "I was one of the guys who brought Larry Flynt into the video business in 1998. And people were telling us there was not that much money to be made... Hogwash. There's a lot of people in this business for one reason. There's a tremendous amount of money in this business.

"A little over a year ago, a partner and I pitched Playboy on a projected entitled 'Who Wants To Be A Porn Star?' And they looked at us and this droll staunchy voice says, 'I'm sorry, Mr. Cromer, but Playboy doesn't do porn.' I guess they've changed their mind."

Director Toni English phones: "I've been interviewed by Ralph Frammolino a few times and he always seemed amazed when I said pornography was so mainstream. And I had to point out that there are now two beat reporters at the LA Times assigned to cover pornography.

"Every time it's sweeps week, there's a local [TV] crew on one of my sets. It's a given because they know that's going to sell. They come in under all sorts of pretext to cover things they feel are socially relevant but really what they are there to do is to cover a set where women walk around with no clothes because they know it is titillating. And they know the audience is going to respond."

Host: "Do you tell people you work in pornography?"

Toni: "I don't champion the cause the way Jeffrey does. I make a lot of money in the business. I'm not prepared to tell everyone I deal with that that is one of the things that I do. I would not want to be defined in mainstream by doing low budget R-rated features either which happens to be a lucrative market.

"I don't watch pornography."

Host: "I hear that from so many people in the business, that they're not consumers of the product they create, which is so different from the business I work in where everybody listens to a lot of radio."

Jeff in Inglewood: "As a defender of civil liberties and an opponent of any kind of censorship, but I want to make a point about the complete decay this represents in the culture. The boom in pornography represents the alienation and despair underneath it. The victimization of people by it. And that it's a generalized pornographization of culture as a whole. That it gets promoted and treated as serious stuff and referred to as an industry..."

Host: "Objectively it is an industry."

Jeff: "I think of the sanitization of prostitution as sex workers. This is a horrific thing that women do, whether or not they say they're making a choice. That people sell their bodies for money is an act of despair and alienation and a lack of self worth."

Mark: "He considers two people filmed explicitly making love to be a sign of decay and victimization. I believe our society is in decay and the sign of that is violence, particularly violence against women, remains much more accepted, much more tolerated in our society that consenting adults making love before a camera.

"In other words, if I have a gun and I put it in a woman's face and pull the trigger and blow her face off, that film gets an R-rating. And everybody can and will take their six, seven and eight year old kids to see the film. If I put my penis in this woman's face and ejaculate on her face, that is considered filthy, dirty and wrong by many people in this society and that is rated X. Then we wonder why we have the rape rates and the violent crime rates we have."

[One major difference here is that the blowing off of a woman's face and other violence in film is simulated while the hardcore sex is real.]

Host: "Many people feel that is dehumanizing. Most of us don't know a lot of women who the act you just describe would be something they'd choose at the top of their list of consensual sex activity. Yet they know that's the money shot in the business."

Mark: "When I went to Cal Poly Pomona, I knew lots of girls..."

Hosts interrupts and cuts Mark off.

10/29/99

Lynne L-patin, recently arrested and convicted for carrying a loaded weapon without a permit, is now a Hustler Jail Babe.

Lynne told Luke Friday morning: "I'm an official Hustler Jail Babe for having gotten David [Hardman] upset, and carrying a gun. And I've got tattoos and I f--- a black guy [Lucky, a big dicked black man who lives with her] on a concrete floor. And I'm 44 years old and in good enough shape to do it. Now all decent people can despise me and demonize me again.

"The interesting part of it was the journalist."

Luke: "Journalist, what's that?"

Lynne: "There's a journalist that sets these things up. Mark Cromer."

Luke: "I thought he was fired?"

Lynne: "Is he not a journalist?

"Well, he's still getting blown."

Luke:"Really?"

Lynne: "Usually he pays the performer a couple of dollars extra to blow him. Which is ridiculous but it gives him what he needs... I blow journalists for free. I'm not a slut. I'm a writer. People who can read and write, I'm happy to blow them.

"Of course that demonizes me completely. It makes it absolutely impossible to go out and get a hamburger. It's ok for him to stick his dick in my face and it's ok for me to suck it but it's not ok for me to call him afterwards and say, 'I enjoyed sucking your dick.' That's stalking. That's why women don't ask men out because men get upset and treat you even worse.

"It was a good scene. It was a catharsis... It confirmed my suspicion that I have no interest in sex whatsoever. It doesn't mean I can't have orgasms. It does mean that I'd rather be shopping. And when you met me, you wouldn't say that about me.

"If you find somebody who has a brain and you meet them in the context of porno, they're forced instantly to despise you because you're a woman and they wouldn't be there if they didn't have an issue with women. I have all these intergenerational relationships with young men so I can say, this is a mommy - son thing, not a sex thing.

"It all goes back to, how do I get a guy to take me to a movie without letting him know that I am interested?

"I was scheduled to work with Jack Hammer but he couldn't make it... Lucky has an extremely large black man's penis... But he doesn't hurt me...

"I've done a scene before with Jack Hammer and he was a little rough... So I thought I should call him so we could practice... I haven't had any sex since August. So I called him and said that it would be a good idea to practice. And he said, oh, ok, I'll call you back. Of course he didn't. So I called him again and then he cancelled. It helped me feel like a real criminal monster to get out there and know that I am that scary.

"They're expecting some 5'9" acne-scarred Harley-riding bulldog and they get me [Lynne is tiny]..."

Lynne: "I met Kid Vegas at [Jim Powers'] bukkake. And he and Lucky made a deal to go to some club later... And he's standing there talking to Lucky and talking about driving. And I drive. It's my car. Lucky has no car. So I said, excuse me but you need to be talking to me because I'm the one who's driving. They hate that.

"I drove back to my house and he followed me here. And he and Lucky went to some party in Hollwyood. I stayed home in bed... And Lucky says that Kid Vegas's opinion of me was that I am a space cadet. He thought that was pretty funny being that I am not.

"Kid Vegas abandoned Lucky at a club so he had to get a ride home from a stranger.

"I don't think any young male 25 or so has any business forming an opinion about me whatsoever because I am 20 years older than he and he can't possibly know what I know. And having a penis doesn't give you knowledge, wisdom, experience. In fact, if anything it tends to discourage those things and make you impetuous.

"Then I looked up Kid Vegas on the web, your site I think... And he can't spell... So I figure when he called me a space cadet, he meant something like "c-a-d-d-e-g."

"Cute kid though, and I can see why the same group that patted you [Luke] on the head, like him. Brings out the faggot in everybody.

"I was explaining this to Lucky, how did this guy get to be so important and get his name all around... He's a cute guy and these people don't want women...

"I start my community service Tuesday. And I'm going to see if I can make a deal with David [Hardman]'s sister Cynthina, I won't take any drugs for an entire month if she will lose 20 pounds. I don't think she can do it. I know I can do anything I want. And I'm just down to some really bad pot and some occassional champagne."

11/01/99

Lynne L-patin writes Luke: My "Jail Babes" experience is even funnier in print. Thanks. The big bruise on my left hip, from f---ing on the concrete floor, is starting to fade. This is the kind of thing that confirms my opinion that most pornographers have little or no experience with real sex -- I'm supposed to be howling "Harder, deeper," and because there's no resililency to concrete, my partner CAN'T go harder or deeper, because my spine can't flex and my hips can't get any leverage to thrust back.

So there we are on the concrete floor, having lousy sex, in uncomfortable positions, and I'm supposed to "act" (key word here) as if it is good sex, rather than simply having good sex and documenting it. Maybe the audience can't tell the difference. Maybe they've never had sex themselves. So is it deliberate? Setting up a sexual situation in which the woman will be guaranteed injury of some sort strikes me as either very misogynistic or very stupid, take your pick.

And the more I think about it, the "blowing the journalist in the bathroom" scenario is hysterical. What does it say about a guy when his sexual thrills come from being blown by a slut in a bathroom? (I'm not really a slut -- I just play one on TV. But it seems to work for men who aren't interested in the difference.) Does he make his wife dress up like a whore and blow him in the bathroom? Or does he have lousy sex with his wife, because good girls lie there like cold fish, and need the other because he married someone he coveted who could care less about his sexual needs? Maybe he's even afraid to share them!

And the big ol' scary Jack Hammer. Took my roommate to work yesterday at a T. Bone shoot, where he worked with Jack, Kitten and some others doing dialogue. Jack couldn't even acknowledge my existence as the shoot broke up and Tobi and I came to pick up Lucky. Makes me wonder whether all those "I'm connected with the Hell's Angels" stories are true. Such a tough guy should have nothing to fear from a nice little middle-aged Jewish lady. I'll bet he did prison time for something major, like breaking into vending machines or puking in the back of a patrol car.

Speaking of Lucky, people seem to think he's my "boyfriend." He is not. I do not have a boyfriend. I do not want a boyfriend. My husband died a few months ago, and I was in love with him. David Hardman treated me atrociously, and I was so incredibly close to David that the damage he did still resonates throughout my being all the time I'm conscious and sometimes in my dreams. At the bukkake, the security guards referred to Lucky as my "boyfriend."

At his shoot for Bowen, he says people did the same. I am not having personal sex with Lucky or with anyone else. He may be my roommate or my friend, and I think he would make a fabulous boyfriend for the right woman, whom he is totally welcome to bring home (I've given him the kingsize bed Bruce and I shared which I could not sleep in alone.)

I'm not ready for a boyfriend. How could I get involved with someone in a respectful fashion, when I still have a gaping emotional black hole where Dave Hardman left my life?

Didn't smoke any pot at all since Friday morning, and didn't take any Valium or Xanax until this morning. I did my workout this morning and then realized that I really felt like screaming hysterically in emotional agony, instead of spending the day writing like I'd planned. So I took a Xanax (fast acting, good for a couple hours) and then a Valium (slow acting, but longer lasting). I don't want to smoke pot for at least a few weeks, as I've had some respiratory problems that lead me to think my lungs could use a break.

And I've tried to translate the emotional agony into a letter to my friend, Lukey, who understands what it means to be "obsessed" with sex and yet not want to be physically touched, and I sublimate my craving for physical contact into hugging and kissing and wrestling with my beautiful dog. How am I supposed to make porno when the thought of sex still makes me want David, David, David....? I can't even masturbate without thinking of David. So I guess I'm going to start planning my exit from porn after all these years... It's time for a new life, I think. Please don't think less of me.

Jews And False Charges Of Jew Hatred

Jane writes: I live near a synagogue. I've lived in this neighborhood (in two different locations) for over 20 years. One of my boys went to the temple day care for a while. I go to their holiday fair...they've always been good neighbors and we all try do be the same. Anyway, a little over a year ago, the congregation (is that the right word? I'm such a Gentile) bought the house next door to their property. Their property fronts on a main, commercial street, the house they bought was around the corner, on a residential street. They want to use it for an expanded day care center. However, they want to tear down the house and build a large, commercial type building for this, and also move an education center into it. The neighbors all said they have no problem with them using then house for day care, or classes. We have a problem with the tearing down of the house and the errection of a business type building on a residential street...I was one of the signers of the petition against the construction. The city council voted to deny the temple the permit and now they're calling us (the neighbors) a bunch of anti-semitic bigots and trying to start a lawsuit accusing us of religious persecution. As an Orthodox Jew, what's your take on all this? I've been called a lot of things in 47 years, but anti-semitic is a first, and I find it disturbing.

Luke responds: Unfortunately, many Jews react to any opposition, off the cuff with the antisemitic canard. I'm embarrassed that this is true. But it is true of too many Jews.

l-keford.com Retraction, Clarification

On Thursday, I published an interview with Rob Spallone. Rob talked about his relationship with a Deputy DA by the name of Lynne who purportedly claimed she ran porn prosecution. I speculated that "Lynne" was Deborah L. Sanchez, who's prosecuting Seymore Butts aka Adam Glasser for obscenity. I was wrong.

Deborah Sanchez from the Los Angeles City Attorney's Office writes: "Hi Luke, I've been out of the office so I just read your e-mail. First of all, none of the story is true. That's not my name. Those conversations never took place and finally my personal background demographics are wrong. I do not know this guy [Rob Spallone]. Who is he? Also, I am not the head of Pornography Enforcement, I am the supervisor of Special Enforcement. My section prosecutes a wide variety of crimes: child molest, child porn, child exploitation, grand theft of government funds, Cal OSHA violations-injury, State Labor Code wage violations involving garment workers. I wonder if he has me mixed up with someone else. Also, from November 1998 - until January of this year I was in a different section. I don't know if this guy is pulling your leg? Thanks for checking with me. I only became the supervisor this January."

Luke says: There was a Lynn Magnandonovan in LA's Special Enforcement section. She worked there about 4 years until this April. The LA Times 12/20/99 reported:

Two adult-film companies and their operators were charged with misdemeanors for allegedly violating a city ordinance while filming nude scenes at a house in Reseda, City Atty. James Hahn said this past Friday.

The filmmakers had secured a city permit to film in a residential neighborhood, but violated the permit by filming nude scenes that were visible to the public through uncovered windows, said Deputy City Atty. Lynn Magnandonovan. They were charged with a second misdemeanor for illegally parking on the street, another permit violation, she said.

Dane Productions and Forbidden Films, both of Chatsworth, and filmmakers Paul E. Bussey, 34, of Canoga Park and Devan Sagliani, 27, of Thousand Oaks were each charged in a criminal complaint filed Thursday.

The Wit and Wisdom of Jeremy Steele

Jeremy Steele writes on his Yahoo club:

Here's my Redundant Porn Name Poem:

No More Names with Steele Or Stone
We've had quite enough, Leave Us Alone!
Or other names like Love or Lee
We've heard them before, So Set Us Free.

love no longer lovely
beauty no longer cute
life and joy become deadly
as we seek the companionship
of dead things

like necrophiliacs we love the dead
bury ourselves every night
then walk as zombies into our delineated affairs
then back to rub happy spots
and touch each's hair

a bell rings to remind us we are still alive
and that there are things to do
a question, an answer "how are you?"
"fine, and you?" and we are soothed.

Luke says: I'm taking it upon myself, as an active project, to encourage porn star poetry. So send in your submissions.

Jeremy Steele writes:

These are my original thoughts a.k.a. Future Famous Quotes:

The way one makes pornography reflects his/her philosophy of life.

It also reveals his/her intelligence.

It makes me think of the Wizard Of Oz, where the three dudes say "If I only had a brain, heart, courage"

Anyone can get naked... many can have sex on camera. To reveal the truth that the naked eyes can't hide, now THAT'S full exposure... That's true vulnerability. That not only shows you what's outside, but takes you within. To create a reality that incorporates sex, but, like life, is more, is the challenge. To live moments. That's what life is... just moments. Do people want just mindless relief, or to be transformed, as well? Who has ears to hear what it is people have been waiting for? The public has no representatives but the calling comes from mainstream and people themselves, in the form of media, cable, interviews, socializing. The problem is, the porn business, has no feeling of potency or endowment, or worthiness or ability or proclivity to provide true adult entertainment, nor has it the sensors to perceive, having been, for so long, caught in their mindless, factory porn making ways.

Porn is the truth that is adorned with lies. Sex is what we're after, but we want more than that. No entity in porn has come to try to really answer truthfully or provide the other x factors in xxx. Intelligence, realism, wit, humour, honesty, to start.. exploration of fantasy, confict, resolution, fantasy. Instead, shock, terribly unforgivable acting, fake orgasms, camera-friendly circus stances while f---ing to accomodate idiots who don't know how to crouch or find a hole (space) to capture the moment without overtly forcing the participants to compromise their comfort and normal levels of intimate interaction. Who really wants the bulls---?

But at least porn is legal, and is the spark that starts a fire within. But that fire is not usually given much room to climb. The embarrassment for years that was associated with watching, renting porn I think had to do with the mentality that pervades, not the fact that people are being watched f---ing. It has long equated those intense moments we all yearn for in the context of trash and mindlessness and stupidity, void of reality, void of all elements of the real world we live in, from which, and only from which we can ever attain real sex, real love, real moments of some real substance. A day will come when True Adult Entertainment is made. I hope and intend to be the one to make it.

Gauge Does New York

Porn star Sinnamon from NastySinnamon.com writes on BigDoggie.net: Tiny adult film star Gauge will be in New York with me July 23-26. She will be shooting for 3 magazines, and developing content for her brand spanking new website that I will be launching next month. This little fireball is eager to meet lots of new friends while in the Big Apple. Coe help Gauge celebrate her birthday on Tuesday, July 24, or email me for the perfect school picture!

Bryan Sullivan writes: Why are Luke F-rd's readers obsessed with porno whores and who they will and won't sleep with? They're all shiftless, nonproductive sperm receptacles, who can't do any better than porno. If white whores prefer not to do DARKIE, and black whores prefer not to do WHITEY, or, if white whores only prefer to do DARKIE, or, if black whores only prefer to do WHITEY, then so be it. That's their perogative. A man of sound mind would have no inclining to wed one of these women. They're not positive contributors to society. So who gives a s--- about what Kitten thinks, says or does. If she only wants to work with WHITEY, then so be it. That's her ignorant perogative.

Luke, your posters are pitiful. They're in love with these first-class nobodys. They wish to control who these triflant whores sleep with. The only poster on your site whose articulate and educated is Chaim Amalek. JOIN A CONGREGATION, LOSERS, THERE YOU'LL FIND AN ASSORTED POOL OF REAL WOMEN TO YOUR LIKING!

Do Anabolic, Extreme Degrade Women?

Bryan Sullivan writes: Do Anabolic and Extreme depict degradation and perversion in their videos? Depends on who you ask. To Gloria Leonard, Patricia Ireland and PTA moms, YES. To me, ABSOLUTELY, but that's what I like in a porno, though. Degradation and perversion in porno were rampant way before the birth of Anabolic or Extreme. There just avant-garde manufacturers with a penchant for producing cutting edge filth. Besides, if whores were being forced by Anabolic or Extreme to perform sex acts against their will they could've walked off the set as an effective counter move.

Moreover, porno whores are consenting adults who love performing disgusting sex acts on tape. It just takes an evil director such as Zupko to bring out their innermost sexual abnormalities; e.g., letting men shove man-made artifacts up their asses, pussies, and any other orifice that's craving broom handle penetration.

If you really want to be technical about Anabolic and Extreme, they're the industry safegaurds. For instance: Whichever drawbridge they decide to cross without falling into the water below--the rest of the industry will know that that drawbridge is safe for them to cross also. So at least GIVE THEM CREDIT for pushing the envelope to innovative boundaries previously unseen in porno. Final Thought: IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE MANNER IN WHICH TRAILER TRASH WHORES ARE PUT TROUGH THE PACES BY ANABOLIC AND EXTREME, THEN DON'T BUY OR VIEW THEIR PRODUCT!

There's porno out there for every consumer's liking. Passing judgement on Anabolic and Extreme for their antically-produced porno stems from the competition's lack of creative ingenuity which resulted in sluggish sales and stagnant market share growth. Now they're envious of the BIG-2. They're to blame for their own sluggish sales, s---ty porno and stunted market growth.--

Luke Gets Mail

Tony writes: why do the woman get into porn. the aids scare is out there. what makes them do it? i saw pictures of steph swihp she looked very on happy. does porn rob them of soul and life. sex is a GIFT FROM GOD THEY(PORNSTARS) TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE GIFT FROM GOD, SEX MEANS NOTHING TO THE WOWAN, THEY SEEM SO UNHAPPY.WHY???????????

Lynne writes: 'Why does the business of porn have to be so sleazy?' Because the customers are seen as perverts and hence not treated with respect...and because, even though some of them get wise or grow up and stop consuming, as P.T. Barnum said so well, "There's a sucker born every minutes..." (and he wasn't referring exclusively to porn starlets or homosexual men....)

What Luke Does With His Extra 20 Hours A Week

Since my ejection from my shul three weeks ago, I've had an extra 20 hours a week. I no longer go to a synagogue every morning to study Talmud and pray. I go a couple of times a week in the evenings to different Torah classes, and to different shuls on Sabbath and that's it.

I spend my extra time on my web site, on reading novels, and getting email from the Republican Jewish Committee Los Angeles. I wish I could fill my life with more uplifting, religiously and morally elevating, communally building activities but I realize that I can not make it in the Orthodox shuls I want to belong to. The rest seem broken down, dirty structures largely inhabited by slobs.

I'm still feeling dislocated. They say it takes three weeks to form a new habit, but I still haven't broken my old habits of friendship and ritual revolving around my former shul.

I guess I will go back to the Conservative and Reform synagogues with their emphasis on contemporary matters and worldly success. I find it hard to pray when seated next to women, and the homosexuals holding hands creep me out. As do the women wearing yarmulkas and prayer shawls and doing things traditionally restricted to men.

But I better watch my language because I can not afford to cavalierly offend large swathes of people as my own social horizons are constricted by my choice of profession.

I now have to completely reconstruct my life. For the past year, all the socializing I needed was fulfilled by fulfilling my duties at shul. Now I have to carve out my own life and reconnect with old friends I've abandoned over the past year in my enthusiasm for my new shul friends.

Taking a break from doing my laundry today, I walked around the rich neighborhood a few blocks up the road from me. It's largely populated by Orthodox Jews who maintain immaculate yards, just how I like them, and these people would be my community if only I abandoned pornography.

Let's not forget that in economic terms, the only purpose of l-keford.com is advertising - to get people to buy the pornography I advertise. I get a cut of that illicit trade and with it I pay my bills and try to follow the Torah.

I buy my groceries and walk to get my haircut at a place next door to my former shul. As I walk up, I fantasize about going a few extra steps, and walking in the wrong door and entering the hallowed realms of a familiar space now off limits to me.

I stop by a kosher pizza shop and look for copies of the Jewish Journal. I thought I was going to be featured this issue but there's no mention of me. My crucifiction at the hands of my few remaining comrades in my community will have to wait until next Friday.

And nobody has yet mentioned my appearance in the July 31st Jerusalem Report magazine, which has not yet made it on the shelves of my corner newsstand.

Lynne writes: I'm still sad for you, that you made the mistake of thinking you could lie and deceive and find true friends...and that you thought you could step from the profane to the sacred without making sacrifices. I'm sad for you because I care, not because I thought it would work and didn't.

I have made sacrifices to leave porn, and every day I want to go back...Could you not explore more into why you are uncomfortable praying around women? Are you distracted? Do you feel that they are laughing at you? G-d doesn't differentiate by gender, only humans do that.

Luke says: I don't care about God here. It's just that it verges on the impossible to concentrate on holy things when you are surrounded by those who evoke the most unholy thoughts in me and other heterosexual men.

Lynne responds: You are taking this too far, dear, to include other heterosexual men, or even heterosexual women or, for that matter homosexuals of either gender. Most of us can put aside our sexuality long enough to attend a house of worship and to function in mixed company. Even I can stop thinking about YOU that long. Loss of normal societal inhibition? Another symptom of frontal lobe damage! The content of these "unholy thoughts" is of interest -- do you want to find the woman of your sacred marital dreams? Do you want to tie women up with shoelaces or spread eagle them on the altar? Or do you suffer from sexual deprivation and obsess over getting a blow job from just anyone (excluding me, of course).

And when I am in church thinking of you, the context is prayer: praying that you will be happy, that the meaning of your life be revealed to you, and that you be healed of your crippling behavioral dysfunction.

Lynne L-patin: What's wrong with hiding out in your hovel, writing about things you are really interested in, like porn? Because these nitwit losers you befriend want you to live vicariously for them....and THEY don't wanna live in a hovel and sleep on the floor and hang out at Bobby Gallagher's studio.

Lynne L-patin: Well, not know what you said [to TeresaStrasser.com]....she probably wants a guy who can match or surpass her real world achievements and she probably DOESN'T want to become a joke on your tawdry site...

Lynne L-patin: You deserve a pretty Jewish woman who has accomplishments of her own..you deserve the sun, the moon, the stars AND a pretty, smart Jewish woman...I just want you to be happy. And you could use a professional fashion policewoman.

Lynne L-patin: And I read through her new piece on...."Why Can't I Fall in Love..." I could write and say...."If you're looking for an imperfect man, I can guarantee you that Luke is imperfection personified!"

Lynne L-patin: AND he sleeps on the floor...and has no furniture, so there's no need to decorate on HIS behalf... Luke, you would love being maneuvered through all these normal things, until it became so overwhelming you'd curl up in a fetal position and hide in the closet!

Lynne L-patin: I could write her and tell her I enjoyed reading her articles, though I get more than enough "I wanna be a Jew" from you. And I'd love to see her comment on porn fashion and how it slopped over into the mainstream. She'd probably love the AVN awards fashion show.

Lynne L-patin: But I did read that one test of frontal lobe damage is social imbecility...

Bob Berkowitz Update

Lovebytes host Bob Berkowitz lost his job last week when Eyada shut down. He writes Luke: "I'm taking some time to think of my next move. As you may or may not know, I've been working at a hypnosis clinic and am thinking of going into a private practice. I've also started working on a doctorate in human sexuality. I'm weighing a couple of media offers. Nothing firm yet."

Eric Mittleman Update

Former Playboy Night Calls producer Eric Mittleman phoned from his new job Creative Light Entertainment where he's starting its film division.

When his contract expired last November, Eric jumped to a reality TV company that thought up the National Enquirer UNCOVERED show.

Eric: "We're doing some softcore movies [at CLE]. And some horror films and comedy. They're basically a film distribution company and they wanted to launch a production division. The guy who brought me here brought me to Playboy ten years ago - Scott Zakran.

"I've been here two weeks.

"My own sensibilities are more in the PG13-R rated world. We're making adult movies [not pornographic]."

Liberals, Why Is This So?

Chaim Amalek writes: What does it all mean? No, not the article itself - that is pretty damn clear. What puzzles me is why the New York Times would publish something like this. Has AMALEK lost his ability to decode? Must he await for Yggdrasil to explain the inner machinations of the inner party that permit such material to appear on the FRONT page of the New York Times, or might there be a very simple explanation (were the victims Jewish?)? A storm is coming, Luke. Namby pamby liberals are returning to city halls from which they were ejected in the early 90's, and it is pretty clear what will happen next.

CINCINNATI, July 17 - Three months after this city was traumatized by street clashes and vandalism, the police have retreated from "proactive" patrols in black neighborhoods, saying they fear fresh charges of racism.

During this period, there has been a six-fold increase in shooting incidents citywide, with all but one victim black, further polarizing the city since the three days of confrontations in April between black protesters and the police.

"We're seeing an epidemic rise in violent crime," said Keith A. Fangman, the president of the Fraternal Order of Police union.

Ruby From The Bunny Ranch

Ruby phoned Thursday afternoon: "At Hustler Hollywood Friday night, the only reason Digital Playground contract girl Tera Patrick got $4000 for a date was because Dennis [Hof, owner of the Bunny Ranch] offered a magnum of Kristal champagne plus me and Rebecca on top of it. And Chloe offered a fisting. Tera's pretty and all that but she didn't get that big amount on her own. People started throwing things in.

"You always put the most goofy pictures of me up on your site. I just got a tooth pulled and I'm taking Vicodan.

"I think Digital Playground is pissed off. The reason Dennis started adding stuff in was that somebody said something about the Bunny Ranch and Tera rolled her eyes, real rude like. He's throwing in an airline ticket too.

"I only made it to Erotica LA for two hours but it looked really lame."

Brian Kushner writes: Vicodan for a tooth pulling? Yeah right...She's a f---ing VIC ADDICT!!!

Digital Playground's Adella says the guy only wanted a date with Tera Patrick. Nothing else. He left his donation anonymously with AIM and was interested in nothing but a date with Tera. That everything Dennis Hof and Ruby offered were for humor purposes only. That it is illegal to sell sex in Los Angeles.

Adella says: "I'm sorry that Ruby feels the way she does. Maybe it's a threat to her."

Ruby writes: Luke, I had a lower molar pulled, one of the ones that isn't supposed to come out at all. I'm sure that guy knows me well enough to make a statement like that!! I'm in pain, I take a prescription written for me. We were not selling sex in L.A., all of what was promised would have taken place LEGALLY at the ranch. Tera seemed very nice to me until she told all her fans that they SUCKED, not only a Hustler Hollywood but at Erotica L.A as well. I don't understand why girls are mean to their fans. So people go ahead and judge me if it'll make you feel better about yourself.

Everyone's favorite punching bag, Ruby

Mustang Ranch And Its Women

From the NYTimes.com book review of BROTHEL Mustang Ranch and Its Women By Alexa Albert 271 pages. Random House. $24.95:

...seriously undermined by the author's lack of reportorial skills, her failure to back up her anecdotal material with supporting information and her penchant for gross generalizations.

Ms. Albert starts her work with a dogmatic preconception: "I had long believed that prostitution represented `badness' on multiple levels," she writes. "Practically, it disturbed me because of the dangers to the women who practiced it. Politically, I thought prostitution degraded all women."

After multiple visits to Mustang Ranch, she reaches an equally sweeping and dubious conclusion. She not only ratifies the reasoning of proponents of legalized prostitution — that "it's naďve to believe that prostitution can ever be eliminated" and "only when we recognize and validate the work of professional prostitutes can we expect them to practice their trade safely and responsibly" — but she also celebrates "the humanity that's at the core of this complex and timeless profession."

Early on she observes that "the brothel residents actually lived like animals in a zoo": the prostitutes "were required to remain on the premises and were let out for fresh- air breaks only in the enclosed front and back yards." To go into town on an errand, they were required to hire "a runner or escort" at their own expense, and they were prohibited from making phone calls on weekends. Each woman's room was equipped with a hidden intercom system that enabled management to eavesdrop on their negotiations with clients, and unannounced room searches were frequently conducted as well.

Donna recounts how her 42-year-old husband, who claimed he was unable to find a job himself, sent her off to Mustang Ranch despite her tears, and gave her a $4,000 monthly quota. Daisy, who later retired from the profession, asserts that the "first words that come to mind" about her work as a prostitute are "degraded, dehumanized, used, victim, ashamed, humiliated, embarrassed, insulted, slave, rape, violated."

Talking To Rob And Jim And The FBI

I spoke to Rob and Jim by phone Thursday afternoon.

Rob: "The main girls didn't show up to Colin Malone's party Wednesday night."

Jim: "I'm not going to try to match wits with Tom Zupko. He's too much of an intellectual for me."

Luke: "He makes people think with his movies."

Jim: "He makes the thinking man's porno. He does existentialistic porn. He's the Jean Paul Sarte of porn. I didn't know that. I just try to make porn. He calls me Mr. D whatever. He's a scary looking guy too. I'm afraid he might come beat me up. Plus there are all those scary guys over there [at Extreme Associates]. Gene Ross looks like a hitman. That Rob Black is all connected. Tom Zupko's obviously got a lot of juice."

Rob breaks in: "Hey Luke. The FBI guy that was here the other day. He wanted to know what our connection was with David Sturman and Sin City."

Luke: "What's that about?"

Jim: "I don't think I should say. Come on Luke. Didn't David Sturman say he didn't want to be on your site anymore? It was a confidential conversation with the FBI guy."

Rob: "You know Don Osterholt's Atlas MultiMedia. We had a girl yesterday with big giant tits. She says they gave her three scenes for $800 a scene. I said you better make sure you get paid. She paged me an hour ago because they told her, hey listen, we'll pay you tomorrow because we don't have any money today."

Jim: "That's what porno does. You do the scene today and we'll pay you tomorrow."

Rob: "There ain't one girl in the industry that can talk bad about me and Jim. Any girl we've booked, we've shot. We've never bounced a check. And I've helped more girls in this business than anybody."

Jim: "Do you think Sin City can claim that they've never bounced a check? Do you think Extreme can claim that they've never bounced a check?"

Luke: "No. No."

Jim: "We never have.

"You make me and Rob look like a bunch of gangsters. The way you intwined the kidnapping story with the other stories, the FBI agent. If you look at the whole thing, people are going to sit back and go, 'Oh Rob and Jim don't do anything wrong. They're like everyone else. They're just good citizens. They're good citizens who attract SWAT teams and FBI guys... It just doesn't happen in most people's lives. If these guys are so squeaky clean, why is it happening to them?'

"Rob's wife even commented on that this morning.We're just good citizens, Luke, you know that."

Luke: "I know. I'm just a big kidder. You and O.J. Simpson. Good citizens unfairly maligned.

"We looked at our new offices today in Chatsworth next to Bobby Gia Marino. He does foreign sales for companies. This is too big. We don't need all this room."

Luke: "As long as you have enough room to entertain four FBI agents."

Jim: "We're going to put them off the trail. We're not leaving a forwarding address.

"We're the good guys in this business."

Luke: "I've been saying that since day one."

Jim: "We ride the f--king big white stallions with the big white cowboy hats on. We're like Robin Hood, Roy Rogers, the Lone Ranger, Batman and Robin, Laurel and Hardy, Abbott and Costello, the Three Stooges minus Mo. We're like junior Luke F-rds."

Cindi Loftus Does Los Angeles

Xcitement magazine writer Cindi Loftus spent six days in Los Angeles earlier this month and files this report:

I drove to the Universal City Hilton with only one wrong turn. When I first arrived I recognized Luke F-rd (gossip columnist for l-keford.com) and I walked up and introduced myself. He introduced me to Rob Spallone (director of Sopornos, which won many awards) and his wife Elena. Rob is big in the industry having come from a family of movie producers. He spends a lot of time directing movies for VCA. He and his wife were great, down to earth and friendly. Rob introduced me to a ton of people, including Nikita Denise and Paul Fishbein (owner of AVN magazine). While I was standing talking with Rob, Elena and Luke, Rob called some girl the "C" word. Without pause Luke turned to him and said "Rob don't talk like that in front of your wife she's a lady!" I turned to Luke and said with a smile "And what am I?" Luke just looked at me with an "oops" look on his face. Rob said to make sure I put in my article how I got dissed by Luke F-rd. Here it is Rob! I got dissed one more time that night, this time by Max Hardcore. I walked up to each star at the reception and asked if I could take their picture and introduced myself as Cindi Loftus from Xcitement magazine. As a matter of fact I said that phrase so many times that by the end of the night Rob was teasing me about it and introducing me the same way. Anyway after at least 40 successful picture taking introductions I walked up to Max Hardcore and said "Excuse me Mr. Hardcore, can I take your picture, I am.." Without even looking at me or letting me finish my sentence he put his hand up, said "not now" and pushed passed me. Dissed twice in one night!

As I was talking to Rob, he asked me who I really wanted to meet. I told him Ron Jeremy. Rob said that he didn't think Ron was here tonight. I was disappointed, but there were lots of other cool people to meet. I took a lot of pictures and I had great seats, (We were in the third row) Then the speeches started. They were impassioned and empowering. But the one that stands out most was by Juliet Anderson (known on film as Aunt Peg), who proudly announced that she was 63 years old and had never had a nip, tuck, implant, or lipo. At the end of her speech she said, "It's all me" and dropped the straps on her gown to reveal her naked breasts. They looked awesome, as did she. The crowd went wild, with whistles and applause and the photographers snapped away. Definitely a photo taking opportunity.

After the speeches, we all went inside to a sit down gourmet dinner. I was lucky enough to be invited to sit at the VCA table by my friend Mischa, head of PR for VCA. Besides Mischa and I, at the table were Rob and Elena Spallone and several other VCA staffers. We had the best table in the place, people wise and placement wise. Mischa introduced me to several VCA movie starlets that dropped by our table including the very beautiful Julie Meadows. We ate grilled chicken with fancy rice and vegetables. We talked and laughed. I was turned to my right gossiping with Mischa when I heard Rob call my name from the left. I turned around in mid-sentence with my mouth hanging open as Rob said "Cindi, I'd like you to meet Ron Jeremy." So there he stood, adult movie ICON (thanks for that word Nelson), Ron Jeremy. I meet and interview and talk to and hang out with lots of stars and I know they are just regular people with great jobs. But this was Ron Jeremy! I was star struck for the first time in my life (and I hope the last time, unless of course I meet Hilary Clinton or Madonna). I sat there with my mouth wide open for a full 10 seconds before I recovered enough to speak, and when I did, I didn't have a lot to say. I (who rarely shuts up) probably didn't say more then 10 words during our 2 minute conversation. Ron said he reads all the Xcitement magazines and that I am sweet for all the nice things I say about him. After Ron left, I thanked Rob and told him that no matter what else happened on the rest of my trip, I could leave L.A. a happy girl. Meeting Ron Jeremy really MADE my trip.

I walked around [Erotica LA], met and photographed tons of stars. I ran into Rob Spallone again and he lead me over to where Ron Jeremy was signing autographs for his fans. Ron remembered me (yeah!) and even gave me a big kiss and a hug. I also met Jill Kelly, Tara Patrick, Raylene, Catalina, and so many more beautiful starlets. I chilled with Kiki D'aire for a few minutes on her break. She's gone from a small town Florida girl to a very popular adult movie star in the matter of a couple of years. She even said a few years ago she was asking guys if they wanted her picture at the conventions and now the lines to get her autograph are a mile long. She's come along way through a lot of hard work and a little bit of luck. She definitely deserves her success, because besides being a hot looking chick, she's a nice person.

Lynne consoles Cindi: Hey, when you've been dissed by Luke F-rd, you've been dissed by the best! And consider it a compliment -- in his ignorance, he only disses women he really, really likes. ("Without pause" i.e., without inhibition -- more evidence of frontal lobe damage!)

Confusing Lola Lane

I shot the breeze with Rob Spallone around 12:30PM Wednesday at Bobby Gallagher's shooting studio in North Hollywood.

Black girl Lola Lane walks in and Rob asks her what she's doing there. She replies that Rob booked her Monday. Rob says, oh no. He thought the white girl Lola phoned him Monday seeking work. The Lola on the boxcover of Sopornos 2. Rob saw her at the show Sunday. She wanted work. He said to call him.

Rob sent Lola Lane home because she was a black girl (though she sounds white on the phone) and he was shooting an all white girl lesbian line for Fat Dog. Rob called around frantically for a replacement.

"It was an innocent mistake Luke," says Rob. "Don't make me look like an idiot."

Lola entered porn at the end of last year. She's appeared in over 20 movies, including two for Rob. She has large breasts and stands 5'5".

Rob says he's not a racist. He made a great selling series called IRA - Interracial Anal for his dad's company AFVC (Another f---ing Video Company).

Jim ribs Rob: "Didn't you think anything was amiss when she called you up and said, 'Who dis be?'"

Rob calls frantically on his cell phone for a replacement girl. He clicks through to a new call on his phone and it's his wife Elena. He doesn't ask her to do a scene.

Rob Spallone phones Wednesday at 6:30PM.

Luke: "You wouldn't use Lola Lane today because she's black."

Rob: "I don't use f--king monkeys, that's why. Where was I shooting? At the zoo?"

I spoke to Rob Thursday afternoon.

Rob: "Listen to me. Put on your f--king site that I like that black girl [Lola Lane]. I've shot her several times. I felt real bad about what happened but there was nothing I could do about it. I'm not prejudiced. Jim's prejudiced."

Joe Elkind On Adult Gossip

I listened to Evan Horowitz's webmaster show on AdultGossip.com Thursday afternoon. The show starts at 4:20 PM, EST. The time "4:20" was chosen to coincide with the police code for marijuana.

On the show, Evan thanked Kaiser for giving him legal marijuana in Amsterdam.

JoeE, of CyberEntertainment Network, talked about his new ATMBilling.com operation: "In America, 80% of adults have credit cards. But in the rest of the world, like Europe and Asia, only 20% of the people have credit cards. But the rest have ATM cards.

"If we really wanted to be hardcore with ATM Billing, I could make people send me traffic if they want to use it. But the people who are nice to me now will get ATM Billing first. Put it in stone. I haven't decided whether RJB is going to get it or not. I talked to Fantasyman [Ron Levi of Cybererotica.com]. I said you might not get it. I want you guys to start taking care of me. I've always supported everybody, taken care of everybody. My turn baby. Look out. We'll see who runs the internet."

Ron Levi responds: "I could care less. That's not what he told me over the phone. But who cares what he does?"

JoeE told Evan: "AOL tried to get after our bank accounts today. AOL tried to say we owed them money. Our attorney, after he read me what they filed, I said, we don't owe them any money. Blow that s--- out of court. I fight legal battles all day longer."

XXX says: Evan Horowitz from Xpays.com sent Brad Shaw, Mike AI, Lee Noga and several other porners Cease and Desist orders from attorney Paul Cambria. They've made slanderous remarks about Evan being gay, a spammer and a drug user. Remember Evan's partnered with Steve Hirsch at Vivid and Eddie Wedelstedt at Goalie. Evan's only begun.

John writes: Someone should tell Joe his little dick is showing....people better be nice to me or they can't use my ATM billing. Grow up Joe, you sound like a bigger cry baby than Brad Shaw on his password trader kick. As for running the internet, Joe you can't even run CEN. After seeing the unique to the join page counts CEN uses, is anyone stupid enough to let Joe E handle any kind of bank transactions for them. And Joe, most ATM cards now days work just like a credit card, this was a great idea 3 years ago

Erotica LA - The Inside Story

XXX writes: Eddie Wedelstedt wanted to buy Erotic LA from Ron Miller as a fundraiser for Free Speech. Eddie wanted Paul Fishbein to run it. Eddie and Paul made a deal with a committee from Free Speech that they would buy Ron out and run the show and the profits would be a 50/50 slit between AVN and FSC.

Ron Miller received $10,000 down and $100,000 over the course of a year.

Ron was supposed to run the show this year on salary and AVN has the option whether to keep him or not. AVN hasn't spoken to him yet to see what his plans are so I have no idea what will happen there.

AVN owns the show. AVN has a deal with FSC for profit sharing and most of the big compaies wanted to share with M & M Sales rather than take their own booths. AVN will decide soon if and when there will be another show though I think they probably will do it.

YYY says: Eddie W, who thinks he's God's gift to the porn industry, decided to take over Erotica LA. He took Ron Miller aside and said, either we're taking over the show for free, or you'll agree with our deal. Eddie comes from the old school of porn negotiations.

Eddie Wedelstedt got Vivid and VCA to donate a bunch of old product. Sale of it went to the Free Speech Coalition.

Legend's Jeff Mike Ticked With Free Speech Coalition, Bill Margold

Jeff Mike talked to Gene Ross at GeneRossExtreme.com today about sections of last week's Salon.com article on the LAPD's porn busts.

Salon.com writes: "Not everyone in the porn world disagrees. 'We've had a free ride for a long time,' says self-appointed porn spokesman William Margold. 'These days the act of bukkake encapsulates what's gone wrong with porn. I think the biggest thing bukkake proves is that the movie industry has forgotten to create,' Margold says. 'When you've forgotten how to create you go through the motions over and over again.'"

Jeff Mike tells Gene: "I think I have a lot of reasons to be upset. This f---ing guy represents the Free Speech Coalition? He's either with us or against us and from what I'm reading he's against us. The Free Speech Coalition has not called me or offered me one f---ing thing. [Neither did it offer anything to Elyse Metcalf or Seymore Butts.] So where is this money going exactly? Is it going in Margold's pocket? Why would anybody donate a f---ing dime to this organization when their spokesman is saying this is what's wrong with porn? Whose free speech is he protecting? I'm confused with that organization. We're all in this together so you're either with us or you're not. And from what I can tell, they're not.

"They have to be exposed for what they are. And isn't Margold the very same guy who was at the Free Speech booth at Erotica LA collecting donations, and here he is saying the act of bukkake encapsulates what's gone wrong with porn? I want to make sure people don't give them a f---ing penny. This is so wrong. It's the simplest thing. We're either all in it together or we're not. And anyone that's not is a f---in' enemy as far as I'm concerned. And that coalition is a f---in' enemy of mine now. I don't want people to be bushwhacked into thinking that we need to donate money to this great organization that's going to do these wonderful things when they haven't offered me a f---ing dime. They haven't even called me. Nothing."