Friday, July 6th, 2001

How Do You Tell Your Mom What Bukkake Is?

Luke's mom writes: "I still don't know what bukkake is."

Luke says: It's an ancient form of Japanese spirituality.

Nek writes: Your Mom sounds a bit too smart to buy that. If you are interested in giving an honest answer, just tell her that it's a bit to gross to describe in mixed company.

Unless your Mom is truly impervious to being offended and/or grossed out, in which case I guess you could be more explicit. I couldn't imagine providing a definition of Bukkake to my own mother, but interestingly, I'm pretty sure I know what she would say if I did--"You're kidding. You mean people actually do that?"

Helpful writes: It is a bonding ritual in a strange way. 60 parolees gather together as one.

Fred writes: Bukkake is a well-known Japanese lunch recipe. (Also appropriate for dinners, depending upon who the guest might be.)

Jeremy Steele writes: Bukkaki is what the Japenese call an american sandwich with extra mayo.

Company Owner Ready To Quit Porno, Name Names

Feeling the heat from a renewed government crackdown, a major company owner is ready to quit porno and write a book about the experience that names names. I've been asked for recommendations on how to go about this, and I've suggested that getting a good literary agent would be rule one. Anyone with any suggestions? This would be a juicy tell-all book about the sex and porn trade, filled with celebrity gossip.

Jeremy Steele Believes He's Been Screwed By Playboy Accountant
Porn Stud Feels Like A Hosed Black Man In Civil Rights Disobediance

Male porn star Jeremy Steele writes: Hey Luke, If you look at the word "Accountant", you'll find the words to describe Playboy t.V. Accountant Katherine Swanson... >AcCoUNTant<. I've been waiting for months now to have a doctored paperwork dispute resolved with Playboy Television. Here is the letter I sent Laurinda Cocchiaro regrarding their accountant:

I have an extremely serious complaint regarding Accountant Katherine Swanson. Having worked for Playboy Television three times now (I played defendant Jim Dart in Julie Strain's Sex Court, and in one episode of Sexy Urban Legends I played Marqui De Sade, and in another the first of two victims in episode; Organ Donor) winning three auditions, I have gone from regarding myself as being treated with respect and dignity analogous to any mainstream television or motion picture actor by all the participants in the projects, from producers and directors, on down, to the feeling of a black man after being hosed down by fire hoses during the days of civil disobediance, thanks to Katherine Swanson.

I've been working in film, television and modeling since 1990, and never, in my 32 years have I ever been so nastily and derogatorily treated, insulted, yelled at, put off, and threatened by any office professional before. There is noone who has remotely come to displaying such abusive behavior in my entire life experience, on a business level. I will give her credit for being offensive in a very efficient manner. She parlayed more insults and ultimatums upon me in a quick stint of time than I've ever witnessed, and being from New York, where people usually talk, think, and move faster and oftentimes with more sarcasm or even, at times wit or abrasion, I have to say, that, minus, the wit, she takes the cake.

I was transferred to Swanson regarding a couple of matters; mainly, of relevance to her, the question of a payroll discrepency I had. When I had first spoken with her, I had just finished speaking briefly with a nice gentlemen who had called me regarding a problem he told me of; specifically, being able to use my stage name, Jeremy Steele in the credits of the Sexy Urban Legends: Organ Donor episode.

Strangely enough, I was going to call Playboy the same morning I was called first, regarding my pay discrepency, but instead, got caught up in the stage name question. The gentlemen, who I believe was an assistant to Swanson, kindly told me that my name is registered with the Screen Actor's Guild, and that I, therefore can not use it. I kindly, in return, protested that, since this was a non-union project, that it was outside S.A.G. jurisdiction, and having used my stage name in a good number of non S.A.G. movies, I insisted I was entitled to keep my name.

The assistant said he would get back to me, regarding this matter. Then I mentioned, while I was still on line with him, that I also needed to discuss my payroll discrepency. I explained how I just worked two days on S.U.L: Organ Donor for $1000.00, but that my net check was just cents over $580.00, and that there was a mistake on the deductions, because I always claim 9 dependents (as I have on my previous two Playboy jobs) and my check had me listed with 1 dependent.

When I was transferred to Accountant Swanson, I was in a friendly but mature tone, as I was with the gentlemen I had just spoke with. I mentioned that I had a payroll dispcrepency, but firstly, since it was the most recent subject of conversation, and also, since the assistant suggested speaking to Accountant Swanson for further explanation of the stage name matter, I mentioned that I had just been called regarding it, as I was preparing to call accounting regarding my original concern.

She parlayed in a completely descending, yet authoritative tone that I have absolutely no choice about having to change my name for the credits. I kindly insisted otherwise, and noted that the gentlemen I just spoke with is going to get back to me regarding it. However, the main matter I needed to discuss had to do with my withholdings, which mistakingly had "1" on it, whereby I lost several hundred dollars I was depending on, at the time. She responded, that is what I put down, and she acknowleded that on my previous jobs for Playboy, I had stated nine dependents, but not this time.

I said that I'm certain I did not write "1". Swanson most angrily fired back at me, to paraphrase, that "How dare you insinuate that Playboy would doctor your paperwork?!" I responded by saying that we are all human, and that someone must have made a mistake, and then I asked her if she would kindly fax to me the paper that I allegedly filled out with one dependent. She said ok.

The fax I received confirmed that I was correct. The top portion of the page was filled out with my handwriting, but the bottom portion, which included the tax exemptions portion, was, except for my signature, in a completely different handwriting. This reminded me, in a flashback, of the day I was told that I had won the audition.

I was in the Playboy Television offices, right after the second audition, where I was told that I got the part. Producer Beth Polsky and Assistant Michael Lerner gave me call time and location information. One of them (I can't remember which; It might have been another assistant who I was talking to, as well) told me to fill out just the top portion of my paper work, with name and social security number, and sign the bottom, and that they will fill out the rest for me, based on my preexisting data. Assuming that it was ok to do what they told me, and being in a good and non-suspecting mood, I said, "Ok".

As soon as I received the fax, I called Swanson back. She was not there to answer, so I left a message that my paperwork shows, clear as night and day, two distinctly different handwritings on the top and bottom portions, and to please get back to me regarding this matter. She never did.

A couple of days later, I left another message. Then a few days later, another, asking her to please get back to me, and still, she never did. A day after leaving my last message, I received a phone call from the attorneys for Playboy, Anat Levy and Associates, by a very nice lady, saying that there is no problem with me maintaining my stage name, "Jeremy Steele", and all I have to do is fax and mail back a waiver they would send, basically stating that Playboy is free of resposibility in case S.A.G., or any union, has a problem with it. I took care of the matter, and thanked those I spoke with for their kindness and attention.

Following that, that same afternoon, I tried once more to reach Playboy Television Accountant Katherine Swanson, and finally, I got through to her. I said, "Hi, This is Jeremy Steele". From her end, was only silence. Then I said that I first of all, wanted to inform her, for her information, that I had just settled the matter regarding my stage name with the attorneys for Playboy and that I can keep my stage name, after all. She responded, angrily that the matter is not in her department and none of her business. So, I reminded her that she was the one who offered, in the first place, that I had no choice in the matter about having to change my name. Again, she was silent, so, I added, to keep the conversation rolling, that I had been leaving messages for her regarding the payroll problem and she said, "Too Bad. What's done is done. Nothing's going to change. And you better stop complaining and bothering me about it, because if you ever work for Playboy again, and want to see ever see a check again, you better Shut Up! "

And then she just hung up on me before I could even respond. That was the letter. It's been nearly two months since this incident, and every time I think about it, I still get seethingly angry. I am, by no, means, I psychopath, or unibomber type. Still, if it wasn't for the knowledge of law and it's consequences, who knows what I might have done by now. I was wanting to go into the office and raise hell. But, I am a civil person. I'm still waiting for my payroll discrepency to be properly addressed and corrected.

Also, honestly, I'd love to see this #*$%@*%#$!! get what she deserves. Certainly she does not represent the image Playboy has. And to top it all off, I actually have a subsciption to Playboy. I've spoken with a total of three people who know Swanson well, and have had experiences with her, and they have all used the word "Major Bitch" to describe her, as well as the "C---" word. One friend, who I met on the last set, said he was screwed on his paycheck two, and that the payroll dedcuted too much, but he doesn't want to expend his energy and time pursuing it.

I have two good friends who have been to the playboy mansion many times. They gave me Hugh Hefner's Secretary Jenny's number. I've thought about, if nothing gets resolved, standing outside Wishire Blvd with an angry sign in my hand, having my friend film it and send it in to TV news shows. These are not threats. Just my thoughts. I hope you understand how I feel, and I certainly hope the correct and fair steps are taken to resolve this matter, bring closure to this situation.

Alexa Confirms She May Return To Porn

Former Wicked girl Alexa tells AVN.com: "I know that my leaving the business was abrupt, unexpected, and not well thought out. After being out of the movie side of the industry, I realized that it was not the movies that were bothering me, it was myself. I had screwed over so many people who put their trust in me, that it felt that the climb back up to the contract girl I knew I could be, was too long and treacherous for me to handle. Everyone at Wicked believed that I had "star quality", and I did nothing but take that for granted. They got tired of giving me numerous second chances, after I had made promises to them that I did not keep. I would love to make things right with the company that basically tried to create me into a star. I know that nothing will be fixed overnight, but I am willing to admit my faults, and take full responsibility for the lack of effort on my part."

Who's Nicole Moore?

Jimplasti: you hear anything about that new girl Nicole Moore?
Jimplasti: shes been on stern and gene ross wrote about her....
Jimplasti: she called the office looking for work.....how unusual.
Jimplasti: i was just wondering if shell do the electric drill thing?
Jimplasti: old...like 40?
Jimplasti: age has no meaning if I can shove power tools up her ass

Seymore Butts Chat Transcript

Seymore Butts aka Adam Glasser goes to trial Monday to defend himself against a Los Angeles obscenity charge for his movie Tampa Tushy Fest which contains a fisting scene.

Stephanie Dunn at AdultDVDTalk provides this:

Here's a quickie messy partial transcript from the chat at SeymoreButts.com - I'm sure he'll have a better transcript up soon...

seymore: trial starts monday city attorney filed motion today to supress all evidence except for the movie- so there might be a pre-trial hearing [what evidence?]

seymore: experts- community standards- comparable materials

five_star: seymore- were you surprised that they tried to supress all evidence except the movie or was that expected seymore: we were surprised because the precedent for this type of evidence being relative has already been established by the courts

five_star: seymore- is this whole thing becasue of fisting or is there something else?

seymore: we assume its fisting because thats the only thing that makes this movie different from most of my others

seymore: they have not told us why they find it obscene but laws state that movie must be viewed as a whole

Brad 24: is there laws against "fisting"? was it anal "fisting"?

seymore: obscenity is defined by community standards- no individual acts are defined

[is the video with the fisting available?]

seymore: it already was and still available in some stores- we have stopped selling that version until after the trial

five_star: seymore- basically if you win the case will that mean that fisting is an acceptable part of the 'community standard" ?

seymore: in los angeles- yes

[who's in the fisting scene?]

seymore: fisting scene- chloe and alisha klass

five_star: seymore- maybe this is secret or something but are you going to testify in court?

seymore: it looks like i will be testifying

five_star: Seymore- have you read Phil Harvey's book?

seymore: have not read harveys book yet but am planning on it

Brad 24: whose idea was it to start fisting? did alisha want it? or was it your idea seemore?

seymore: the fisting idea was the girls and was suggested about 30 minutes before we began shooting

seymore: it was my decision to release the tape of course

five_star: seymore- tell me if this is correct....you can insert 4 fingers or even 8 fingers on 2 hands, but as soon a thumbs go in it's considered fisting seymore: correct

[will any porn stars be talking the stand in your defense?]

seymore: chloe will be a witness

Brad 24: so seemore are you still producing a new movie or does this case put you on hold?

seymore: still producing- just no fisting [when asked about DVDs]

seymore: dvds- 3 released- 3 cumming in 2 weeks

HoustonDon: what are your best dvd's seymore?

seymore: don- female ejaculation and mission to uranus

five_star: seymore- I hear all kinds of conflicting information....do you own the name or does Sunshine?

seymore: i own the name seymore: will be doing an interview with pbs' frontline about the case next weekend

seymore: gotta get going- have a very early meeting with lawyers. thank you all for your support and have a great night. next chat will be monday night july 16th. anything i missed please email me -seymore@earthlink.net

Fred writes: Sir-- I think you should attend Mr. Butts's trial on Monday. Frankly, I've never attended such an event, and it would be interesting to see what sort of evidence they put on, how it's presented, and what sort of jury they pick.

Exactly how does one go about trying to prove that "anal fisting" is or is not obscene? Exactly how does one go about trying to prove that it is or is not within the ambit of community standards? What sort of voir dire (pre-trial jury questioning) is asked?

Who will the defense try to bounce? Who will the prosecution try to bounce? (I can see it now--"Well, Mr. prospective juror--have you ever been anally fisted? Have you ever anally fisted anyone?")

It would also be interesting to know who else is there at the trial. Are other journalists covering this amazing event? Have any of the porno producers sent people to watch and report on the proceedings?

Sir, I think this would actually be the most interesting thing you could possibly cover. It would also be interesting to bring Brandy or Kendra along to see what they think.

BTW, I think trials like these are important. They show both prosecutors and pornographers what a jury will or will not let people get away with in a particular jurisdiction.

Finally, I would really like to read the direct and cross examination of Chloe. By the way--I assume the trial is being held in a court located in the San Fernando Valley. Is that right?

Internet Pornographer Accused Of Rape

Thomas writes on Netpond:

Public Notice:

On July 4th 2001 Ms Noga established, by way of several posts on Netpond, a prima facie statement indicating a sexual assault was perpetrated by Mr. Mason (alias Compdoctor) while in Las Vegas sometime last week.

Later in the record, a one "JayMan" alleged that Mr. Mason did engage in nonconsensual sexual penetration in fellatio, which is a violation of NRS 200.364(2), a Category A Felony.

The record further indicates that an individual named "Pattycake" concured that a heinous wrong was perpetrated, but later redefined the matter as a civil rights violation.

These three, who claim to have direct knowledge and details of the alleged incident, have concurred that they did not file a criminal complaint against Mr. Mason, and it is believed that Mr. Mason has avoided arrest, eluded Justice and has returned to his State of residence.

A sexual assault occured or it did not occur, both things cannot be simultaneously true. Either nonconsensual sexual penetration occurred or it did not occur. If you are a victim of this alleged sexual assault it is your duty to come forward, Nevada Revised Statute 200.366 establishes the States presumptious compelling interest in prosecuting sexual assaults. In the State of Nevada you do not have a right to determine for yourself if the matter will be prosecuted.

Certainly, there is valid concern for your emotional and mental well being and your protection from harassment and further suffering regarding this matter. In these regards the State has established a sufficient mechanism to provide victims of sexual assualt to maintain anonymity and confidentiality of public records, including the use of a pseudonym in complaints regarding sexual assault.

Pursuant to the same statute the State will also assist and provide whatever medical attention you need in regards to this matter. If you have knowledge of this alleged crime it is your duty to do likewise. Please contact the Las Vegas Metro Police Department ("LVMPD") at (702) 795-3111. If you would prefer to file a written statement, their mailing address is LVMPD, 400 East Stewart, Las Vegas NV 89101

First They Came For The Pornographers...

Pornographer Farrell Timlake from HomegrownVideo.com writes on Netpond: "Never forget that the pornographers were exterminated in Nazi Germany well before the Jews were. Remember, it can happen here."

Luke asks: Is there any evidence for this? Were there special death camps for porners?

Farrell replies: "The Nazi info I caught years ago in a history of the Third Reich appropriately entitled "The History of the Third Reich", and the other is just a speculation. You can find a reference for the history part in that book and probably many other histories of the Third Reich, but evidence for the "it can happen here" line would crossover into conspiracy theory so that evidence would fall into the purely circumstantial category and not be worth much. There is plenty of historical reference for how the Nazis first started killing the "undesirables", including Gays, Gypsys, and Sexual Deviants. The stereotypes of these easily vilified groups help brand the Jews as well with the propaganda that Jews were prone to such depravity."

Aghast writes: "I f---ing love when these guys try to elevate themselves to "Free Speech" activists or governmental sacrificial lambs. They are businessmen. That is all. Guys trying to make an easy, fast buck."

Farrell Timlake writes Luke: Aghast needs to sit down and shut up or take his petulant little rant somewhere else, like Iran. Yes we are business people. The successful ones in this business know there is nothing fast about the bucks to be made here. It is all hard work and dedication like any other business. But unlike any other business, this one stays alive in this country by a simple creed set forth over two hundred years ago. Indeed, porn existed then as it did even a thousand years before. However, still today there are countries where being a pornographer is punishable by death. There are people that still want to persecute this industry in America today, or did you miss the posts about Seymour Butts?

What is our crime? Sex? If anyone fails to see the absurdity of making that a crime, then please go back to your church and keep praying that we will all rot in hell.

My comments are quite timely. I do not want to go to jail. I do not want to be shot like Mr. Flynt. I do not want to be a "Freedom Fighter" for Free Speech. I have no choice.

I am in this business because I believe in the healing power and creative inspiration of sex. I choose this industry to pay for my means of living in the material world because I want to invest myself daily in making a world where sex is safe. WWW.Homegrownvideo.com is our ways and means of achieving that. Of course, I want to profit. How else can I pay my employees? Fine people one and all, they also have families and pay taxes like you, Aghast.

You try spending one day with the realization that Johnny Law could come bust you at any second not because you hurt anybody, but because you entertained them. Aghast, I am aghast at your complete ignorance and intolerance. Please take a moment to reconsider your irrational slam. You the consumer are not going to jail or the torture chamber. You are just going to jerk off and go to bed. Meanwhile, some producer out there may be paying the ultimate price for your 20 seconds of satisfaction. Sleep on that, then take your "f---ing" pissy attitude somewhere else.

Aghast replies: "To equate your sporadic minor legal problems to the wholesale extermination of six million Jews is vulgar hyperbole at best. Choose a less offensive metaphor."

Here is Farrell Timlake's post on Netpond:

I must reiterate though, in this industry, there is always going to be those who do not respect what we do. You can work hard and be corporate like Playboy, etc. but that does not buy respectibility, it simply earns success. There are still plenty of wrath out there toward the adult industry and in a lot of folk's eyes, Playboy is every bit as evil as Hustler or teenf---meat.com or whatever.

Never forget that the pornographers were exterminated in Nazi Germany well before the Jews were. Remember, it can happen here. Our best defense is to win the public perception that we are part of pop culture and an entertainment fixture. With time, maybe we can earn the same sort of quasi-respectibility that huge sin corps like Seagrams and Phillips Morris have earned. You can't really call it respect, but you can call it clout.

Confucy writes about the Players Ball, a party for leading porn webmasters headlined by rapper Snoop Doggy Dog: "Who needs rap artists? How about some quality performers? This rap crap is for teenagers. Grow up and be men! Most of you are fat over-the-hill f---s who bring on Snoopy Doggy pimple because you think that is what will attract young women. Go home to your wives and keep your pants zipped!"

Aeon writes on Netpond: Possibly, the reasoning behind the post is that the majority want this business to be accepted as legitimate, yet look at how it's presented to the corporate world and public at large - regardless of whether those involved know it's a joke: calling supposedly succesful people pimps, players, and ho's, is going to do nothing but attract negative attention, as well do the gossip, rumors, and vindictive agenda's that surround this business. There's a watershed, people are accepting adult entertainment as a viable medium because of the potential revenue generated by it and their personal enjoyment of it, yet at the same time -those involved are in presenting it overshadowed with the negative stereotypes that present a borderline criminal activity. The two won't mesh. You're either going to get legitimacy in the business world or this pseudo criminal pimp and player attitude. If it's the latter, then the gov't is going to be involved and more so than you want. Regardless of people yelling 1st amendment, etc.

Look at the truly successful corporations in adult entertainment; flynt publishing, playboy, penthouse, etc., they are corporations and run in a corporate manner. If people want this to be accepted as a business, then it's going to have to behave like a business does and present itself as such. If not, then no one will have the right to complain about the inevitable consequences of their actions because those consequences are known.

Confucy writes on Netpond: Webfather, you can coat s--- with ice cream or creme brulee, but it is still s---. What makes you think a masquerade party is going to give porn any more respect than having a bunch of asses dressed up in pimp outfits?

Porn is porn! You start in your own backyard. You stop cheating people, and you stop using domain names like f---you.com. It's offensive to the general public, and it is offensive to people who use porn services. Porn users don't want email sent to them with f--- f--- f--- all over everything. They want to pretend like it is regular email. Once they come to your site and go behind the green door, then you can blast them with f--- ME & f--- YOU crap.

The majority of the porn webmasters I have met are no-class, low-class idiots. All they care about is MONEY! They will do anything they can just to make a dollar. Is this the way you have been running your businesses, Webfather? Originality! Honesty! What happened to these wonderful traits? What difference does it make if you have a Golden Globes type party, all very respectable, and behind the scenes you have people like JJJJ-boy playing with his dick on live worldwide video or CompDoctor virtually raping a young girl?

You start by kicking out the people like Meni, Brad Shaw, Serge, and the above-mentioned scum, and you start acting like ADULTS in the ADULT WORLD!

Taz writes on Netpond: The masquerade ball/costume party sounds like it offers a good solution to both sides of the issue. Way to go guys. D$, man I don't envy you trying to find a musical mix with cross appeal. You've got a couple of generations of webmasters in the biz, from classic rockers to metal heads to hip hoppers.

PlayersBall.com organizer Darren Blatt aka D$ writes on Netpond: My objective is to throw the best party for our people, webmasters. I thought a dressing up theme would add extra excitement, whether it be pimp and ho, black tie, whatever. Because I wanted to have everyone feel like VIP's, I used the word Player, hence the name. Has Players ball been done before mine? Of course, it happens to be a part of hip hop and pimp culture, yes, even pimps have culture. When I started to get even deeper about the pimp and ho theme, I realized that in our business we pay woman to have sex, and do just about anything, for money. The difference between prostitution and what we do is a piece of paper that we refer to as a model release form. The way we profit is by selling those sex acts in pics and video on the Net. So really, how much different are internet pornographers from real pimps?

With that in mind, I've attended many pimp and ho events, they're very common is southern Cailfornia.

The last thing I want is the responsibility of lifting everything negative going on in the Internet by throwing a party, who said I should be the one to do that. That's a huge responsibility for anyone.

So, let's get back to the reason for this party. TO ENTERTAIN WEBMASTERS. Are you all entertained? Is the pimp and ho theme getting old? I can do without the pimp and ho theme, it's just a nice fit with the name and hip hop culture. Once it becomes a bad thing for this industry, I'll stop. That's the last thing I'd want to do. In the past, I've awarded people like Helmy with a Woody, for his achievement and fight against child pornography. Did anyone talk about that being a good example? Actually, I do not recall one post saluting that decision.

Porn Stars With Disabilities

Mike Mudd writes on RAME: Someone recently started a thread concerning porn stars with physical disabliltes. I'd be interested to know how many have mental disablities, you know, personality disorders,Manic Depressives,etc,etc. I'm sure it would be one long list. Who are the classic pscyopaths,borderline personality,histrionic, narsacistic,bi-polar,schizophrenic,anit-socials, currently working in the jizz bizz? Sure Alex Hiddell and Max Hardcore are no brainers when its comes to male actors(pscyopaths), but I'm interested on hearing more along the lines of female performers.

Belgalen writes on RAME: Mental disabilities can include learning disability, dyslexia (impairment of the ability to read), etc. However, drug-induced mental disabilities, IMO, don't qualify as mental disorder, i.e., Chasey Lain's addiction. Look at what happened to Tracy Lords, who claimed that she was under influence of drugs to do porn and now look at what happened to her on "The First Wave."

Over the years the female performers claimed that the porn biz often forced the girls to the brink of a complete mental distress (Linda Lovelace syndrome?). This is something of an environment-cause mental distress which is curable, i.e., Desiree Cousteau's mental breakdown after she retired which required her to be hospitalized.

Medical/genetic mental disorders... I know there are numerous female performers with some degree of mental disorders, but hide them well under their skin (another term, denial), i.e. Generalized Anxiety Disorder. So obviously, we may never know which one of the girls are really having medical/genetic mental disorders. Maybe Patrick Riley can help out with this thread.

Basementchild writes on RAME: Drug induced mental disorders are the result of using the drugs to self medicate a mental disorder that existed before the drugs. Eventually, the drugs themselves become a problem, but when the drugs are removed the druggy is back to square one, with the original mental disorder. If that is not treated, they relapse,or begin to self medicate again.

Extreme vs Seymore Butts

MikeSouth.com writes on RAME: This is just another of Black's worn out publicity stunts. Any high school graduate (Rob apparently isn't) could tell you that even IF that were going to be Glassers (Seymores) defense, the judge would immediately dismiss it (objection sustained) as irrelevant saying "Extreme isn't on trial here"

Rob Black has called you, his customers "marks" on several different occasions, stop being his marks. Extreme may be somewhat entertaining to watch but do not believe a word that comes out of Rob Blacks mouth, because he is either "playing" you or he is just plain uneducated and ignorant and doesn't know what he is talking about. Why someone like Tom Byron would idolize this two bit uneducated huckster is beyond me, but that's just my not so humble opinion.

Vinh Nguyen writes on RAME: Actually, anyone who is a lawyer would realise that it IS relevant. If Seymore's being prosecuted for an obscenity charge, his fingering Extreme would be an attempt to establish community standards under the obscenity test. Besides, the DAs don't even need that evidence to be introduced in the trial to start going after Extreme. If Seymore is throwing Extreme's name around and ends up giving the prosecutors another target, Rob Black should be pissed.

Book Review: The Government vs Erotica

Steph@AdultDVDTalk.com writes on RAME: I know a book review may not exactly be appropriate, but in light of yesterday being Independence Day and the upcoming Seymore Butts trial.

The Government vs. Erotica: The Siege of Adam and Eve

I've been in the porn industry a little over two years now. Only one person has ever taken the time to let me know that I'm an evil pornographer paving my way to hell. Until recently, I didn't think much about obscenity prosecutions. Sure I've read the gossip site battles between Free Speech Coalition representatives and certain pornographers that don't think they're doing enough. When I was working for an online retailer we had a few meetings about where not to ship product, trying to put together the varying advice from studios and our own lawyers. And I've followed the Cambria List scare, Elyse Metcalf's trial, and the upcoming Seymore Butts trial. But I never put much thought into the power of individuals who work for "our" government to shut down businesses that they simply don't like. That is, until I read Philip Harvey's The Government vs. Erotica.

While I don't condone violence toward women, and I'm thoroughly disgusted by some adult productions, I recognize that those are a part of the price we pay for freedom of speech. Yes, some producers give porn a bad name, but the prosecution of Adam and Eve in the 80s makes clear that the religious right finds all depictions of sex obscene, even what some porn fans would call "vanilla" porn.

Harvey's book details the raid on Adam and Eve in 1986 and the ensuing prosecution, or should I say persecution. The individuals within the government responsible for the persecution clearly intended to shut down Adam and Eve, rather than simply get an obscenity conviction. Ironically, by shutting down other mail order companies (Adam and Eve's competition), these individuals helped Adam and Eve pay for their own defense.

The legal tactics, jury reactions, and reprehensible actions of government individuals provide for a fascinating read. It's a great story about an interesting historical moment that Harvey tells well. As the writer is the founder of Adam and Eve, the presentation of the company's virtuousness has to be taken with a grain of salt. Harvey emphasizes the notion that he began the mail order business as a means to fund nonprofit work in international family planning. While the good that Adam and Eve has achieved is admirable, the good hasn't come at the expense of company profit (there's clearly room for both.) Harvey does admit to making a good living while describing his anger at writing a check to the IRS, knowing that his money will be used to prosecute him.

Half of The Government vs. Erotica tells the tale of the Adam and Eve obscenity trials. The other half is dedicated to greater issues of freedom of speech, a "scientific" look at pornography, and the problems with organized religion. Harvey doesn't offer any profound insight, but he does bring together all the issues in a coherent, intriguing fashion. His chapter on "Big-Government Conservatives; Big-Government Liberals" provides some excellent examples of the contradictory nature of both the Republicans and Democrats:

"American 'conservatives,' daddy-like, want government intervention to prevent us from reading entertaining sex books, from engaging in homosexual relationships, to prevent women from having abortions, to forbid anyone from smoking marijuana (though not much more dangerous than ordinary tobacco). 'Liberals' want the government to interfere by taxing us strenuously, taking income from some to give it to others (who are by no means necessarily poor), regulating businesses in ways that drive up consumers' costs, and guiding our behavior through the tax code."

This statement, of course, leads into a discussion of libertarianism. Harvey says his libertarian convictions were shaped by the trials. I have to wonder why the porn industry as a whole does not support the Libertarian Party. Or maybe it does more than I know? For anyone interested in the history of obscenity prosecution, the origins of the porn industry's self-censorship, or simply a good legal tale, I recommend picking up a copy of The Government vs Erotica. The book has given me a better perspective on the battle between today's government and our first amendment rights as well as inspiring me to learn more about the issues involved. I commend Philip Harvey for writing his story, as it will reach a much greater audience outside of the porn industry. If you're at all concerned with your personal freedoms, you should read this book.

Porn and Viagra

From the LATimes.com:

When 43-year-old porn actor Tyce Bune goes to work these days, he makes sure to pack something extra in his briefcase along with the usual script and change of clothes: a vial of Viagra tablets.

On a typical day, when filming can stretch on for 14 hours, Bune will strip down and have sex in front of a camera crew as many as three times. During busy times, he might work five days a week. It's a grueling schedule, and Bune has popped so many blue diamond-shaped Viagra pills that one film director said some crew members have teased him about his "blue tongue."

"I don't think men should be ashamed that they do use it," said Bune, who often relies on Viagra for film shoots. "I'm not ashamed of it. People know that I use it. It doesn't make me any less of a man or a person."

Call it better porn through chemistry. Viagra, the drug that has transformed the sex lives of the elderly and the impotent, has swept through an industry that arguably needs it the least.

Mike McCormick of QuasarmanRants.com writes on his web site: I always told my mother that one day she'd read about me on the front page of the newspaper.I just never imagined that it would be because a reporter asked me for my opinion of the impact of Viagra on porn. Such are the eccentricities of fate I suppose.

BTW - The reporter failed to use my pseudonym and instead used my real name. Also, the name of the company that I work for is Metro Studios, not Metro Productions and contrary to what you will read, I did NOT discover Tyce Bune. I believe that honor goes to Vivid's David Stanley. I was however the camera person on Tyce's ill-fated first movie. The one in which his erection was conspicuously absent.

Luke Gets Mail

Roo writes: Your site, you must agree, doesn't appear to be completely opposed to porn. You can't tell if it's you writing the rest under pseudonyms and it's a mishmash of erotic stuff with a thin veil of protest. Plus the photos. Luke, they are hardly kosher! You aren't just a journalist against porn. You do promote porn by the links, the photos, the content, and, as Monsieur B says, by being hired by the industry. I don't think it's just for money either. You like most things that comes with the package.

Both Judaism and Christianity make a clear separation between darkness and light, evil and good and say seek the light, keep away from the dark. You can't muddy holiness. It's either holy or profane. There's not such words as hofane or proly.

Porn star Logan LaBrent writes: Luke what's up sweets? I did some stills for Adam aka Seymore Butts! It was great and he's a sweetheart for sure! I hope all works out for him with that ridiculous trial! I'm currently still out in Vegas dancing at the Crazy Horse Too. I'll be back at my other home Monday to shoot a movie most of the week!

Gloria Leonard writes from Hawaii: Poor Jeff Goodman! If you look up the word "nerd" in the dictionary, his picture is right there! I won't even dignify his imbecilic remarks about my age and appearance some twenty or so years ago. s---, even blow-up dolls chewed holes in themselves so as not to have sex with this geek, so what can you expect? The only thing we did have in common was getting screwed by Carl Ruderman. After I'd been there for twelve years as publisher, they conned me into changing my pay status from employee to consultant. Once I was terminated after fourteen years (having made them many millions of dollars), they did hire a younger female, which lasted about a year. On the grounds of ageism, I attempted to bring a lawsuit against them but their wily, wicked strategy paid off 'cause as a "consultant" I was no longer considered an employee and therefore, had no legal ground to stand on! After fourteen years, no pension, no severance, nada. Ruderman got a great deal with me (and yes, even with Goofy Goodman) and his greed sadly, prevailed. There are many ways of getting f---ed in porn and this is yet another example of trust turning to rust!

"976" writes: Jeff Goodman is all wet when he says Gloria Leonard did not invent phone sex. Here is photographic proof of her pioneering involvement circa 1980.

Jeff Goodman responds: I wish to refer all those wishing to gain a deeper insight and knowledge into Gloria Leonard's excellent taste in men, appreciation of looks, discrimination, and ability to choose partners with high quality DNA, to this photograph.

After looking longingly at my photos of Hainan Island, particularly one of a huge Mao-esque Rave Club with Imperial Looking Statues, with the 10-foot-tall Chinese characters roughly translated as 'Getting Laid is Glorious,' I pulled myself away from my memories of that verdant place with minarets and crazy-quilt spires and lights reminiscent of Dreamland and Luna Park, and read Gloria Leonard¹s astute pronouncement that I was a 'geek'. Ahh...typical judgement of insane New York womanhood on a poor kid who just wanted to meet hot girls.

But should we not be proud to be geeks?? In the carnivals of turn of the century America, if a local drunken troublemaker tried to pick a fight with the sideshow geek, pork the fat lady, or beat up the dog-faced boy, the barker would yell "HEY RUBE!" It was a the code word for "trouble with the locals (rubes), everyone come help!"

Every carny person would drop what they were doing, and rush to the defense of their brethren...wielding hammers, tent poles, baseball bats, whatever.

A geek was a freak (the name was derived from the name of a gypsy tribe) who would perform disgusting acts for money, not just bite heads off chickens, but far worse. In antiquity, this gypsy tribe would abduct children in Europe and main them....force their heads into weird shapes, break their legs, make into into crawling freaks, and sell or exhibit them for money or to the monied elete.

Compracheekos...later bowdlerized to "geeks". I found this on the web: "What if people existed who purchased healthy, well-formed children and then mutilated their young bodies to create monsters splendid for laughing at? What if their formula were:

"Take a child two or three years old, put him in a porcelain vase, more or less grotesque, which is made without top or bottom, to allow egress for the head and feet. During the day the vase is set upright, and at night is laid down to allow the child to sleep. The child thickens without growing taller, filling up with his compressed flesh and distorted bones the reliefs in the vase. This development in a bottle continues many years. After a certain time it becomes irreparable. When they consider that this is accomplished, and the monster made, they break the vase. The child comes out -- and, behold, there is a man in the shape of a mug!

"This is convenient; by ordering your dwarf betimes you are able to have it of any shape you wish."

Victor Hugo-The Man Who Laughs

Impossible? No one could be that evil? ...During the 17th century, organized bands of Gypsies called comprachicos (from comprapequeños, the Spanish word for child buyers) developed the profession of creating human monsters from children. Why? For the jaded amusement of master neocheaters and professional mystics of Europe -- the royalty of government and church. "

I believe Robert Crumb and S. Clay Wilson revived the term "geek" in underground comics of the 1960's, and so once again it found it's way into the popular vernacular, eventually being applied to persons who were abnormally interested in introvertive things like computers and Star Trek, and so did not fit into the "in" crowd due to bizarre appearance and mannerisms.

I humbly offer that I myself revived the word 'wimp' by constantly running stories such as 'Little Wimps Masturbated by Huge Violent Women!' in Velvet Touch. Leading directly to the biggest geek of them all ruling the world as it's richest but least-laid man.

Live Long and Prosper JeffG - Famous Geek

Heather Barron Reaches Out To Chasey Lain

Heather Barron writes: Dear Chasey,

I have read a lot of the things that have been said on this site about your present situation and of course, the comments made by independent parties that may know or not know you personally. I have no way of telling what is fact or fiction so I stay objective.

I haven't seen too many people actually offer to help you and provide emotional support for you in a time you might need it most. While I've never had a drug or alcohol issue, I certainly know first hand what it feels like to have a boulder infront of you, no way around it and praying daily for some angel to be dropped from the heavens so that everything might be resolved. Usually, we have to resolve our own problems and then we see the "angel" and it all makes perfect sense; we can look back with an understanding of what we were supposed to learn in everything we went through.

Today, I was driving past a landscaping shop; there was a big lettered sign outside that read "Adversity introduces us our true selves."

If you'd like to go for lunch, coffee or just talk some time, please feel free to call me. As a mutual mother, I'd be happy to lend a shoulder or perhaps give you some direction in a step by step way to heal what really aches. Addictions are rarely merely physical.

The general opinion in LA is that you cannot help a drug addict until they want to help themselves. I do agree with this but I think your situation is pretty simple. You have a son. I'm sure you want the best for him. Put yourself second and him first. Bite the bullet and grab someone's hand. Reach out to me or anyone who is on the anti-drug side. Walk away from anything and everyone that is part of that scene and you will find yourself much better off a year from now.

There are a lot of people out there that do care.

Amber@EroticVideos.com writes: I stand SHOCKED after reading all I did about Chasey Lain today. First of all Chasey Lain has always been one of my favorite porn stars. She is both beautiful and classy. I find it highly amusing how so many people have went out of their way to say she is a cracking smoking whore without so much as one piece of evidence. Did it ever phase you guys that someone probably started this rumor who didn't like her or perhaps Vivid?

Think about it ... if someone so famous was out there whoring her body for $100, wouldn't so much as 1 person have come up with some proof by now? DUH PEOPLE -- think about it. This is just a rumor - started by a bunch of losers that only get off on trying to hurt other people. I for one am going to stand up and say ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. I don't believe any of it. I personally will look forward to Chasey's return to videos.

And Heather Barron, shame on you for jumping on this trash Chasey bandwagon. You say you want to be one of the industry insiders, well let me be the first to tell you that you just made a MAJOR mistake. People who really cared about Chasey Lain would have jumped to defend the vicious lies being spread about her - not spend an hour writing a long letter, adding even more fuel to the fire.

So although I can say I've never met or heard of a guy named Louis that works for Vivid - you can rest assured Vivid hires "team players" not girls who look for any chance they get to attack another Vivid girl - especially one as wonderful as Chasey Lain. So in other words, don't look for big companies like Vivid or Wicked to come knocking on your door any time soon. SHAME SHAME SHAME on you!!

And as for the rest of you - start using common sense. Until so much as one person can cough up some hard evidence to prove these allegations of drugs and prostitution, it's all just a bunch of stupid rumors.

Luke says: I'm afraid the stories about Chasey Lain and her drug problems are true. Cops were called on her, she was arrested, her kid was taken away. She's been strung out on drugs. Ask the people at Vivid.

Amber@EroticVideos.com replies: True as in because you have 100% cold hard proof? No. I know that you don't. Why? Because this I actually do KNOW.

I am not going to pretend Chasey is perfect, heck - who of us is? BUT at the same time I know Chasey is not out there giving blow jobs for $100 bucks so she can buy more smack and abuse her child, blah blah blah

... Think about it - she is Chasey Lain - the one, the only - she is PerfectChasey.com ... Oops, did I just say that. ;-) But seriously - think about this entire story, step outside of it for just a second. Then start putting the peices together. Oh and then have a few conversations with Chasey like Kelli [owner of EroticVideos.com] has ... then and ONLY then will you know that Chasey is not a $100 whore.

Dennis Prager Discusses The Gay Lifestyle

Dennis Prager discussed on his nationally syndicated radio show San Francisco Mayor Willie Brown who, taking part in gay film festival, was bent over and spanked. DP thought this presented a bad image of gay life as decadent.

DP says: Is it conceivable that a female politician, say Diane Feinstein or Barbara Boxer or Christie Todd Whitman, would do this in public? Or would that end her public life?

What is it then that allows Brown to get a playful public spanking at a gay festival to cheers and whistles from the boisterous crowd? This could not happen at a heterosexual festival. Because people expect decadent behavior from gays. Which is an insult to gays.

Gay groups, what vision of gay life do you want the public to have? I thought you argued that gays are just like everyone else, except for sexual orientation?

Gay spokesmen argue that the term 'gay lifestyle' is intrinsically bigoted and biased. Homophobic. Then what do you call this lifestyle? Heteros don't publicly spank their mayors. Is there a gay lifestyle?

Men don't wear women's clothing at the Saint Patrick's Day parade or any regular parade. Men don't spank female mayors.

I think it is demeaning for a mayor of a city to get publicly spanked.

When I think about the behavior of gays at any gay event, and we non-gays are told to keep our mouths shut about behaviors that would not be accepted from heterosexuals, maybe there is a gay lifestyle.

Ed Phillips writes: Dennis Prager said people "expect decadent behavior" from gays, but in fact, all pre-oedipal behavior tends to be of the highly visual/exhibitionistic, in-your-face variety. Flaunting behavior is simply the most obvious and reliable indicator of pre-oedipal cultures and industries, including the sex industry, and as another obvious example, the fashion industry--with its highly visual/exhibitionistic, feminine-identified fashion designer gay males, and reparative, bingeing and purging bisexual females.(I'm sure bingeing/purging is no doubt also pervasive throughout the sex industry. Talk of being "fat" is often the main topic discussed by girls at strip clubs, for example.) In addition to the sex industry and gay and lesbian cultures, other examples of pre-oedipal, highly visual/exhibitionistic cultures include macho male and butch lesbian police officers, fatherless prison cultures, etc. In primates, highly visual, exhibitionistic behavior and obsession replaces, substitutes and enables early separation/individuation from mothers and distant, or intrusive, fathers.

The best candidate for a "biological theory of the sex industry" is Bruce Ellis' recent work on the distant-father effect, incest avoidance, and early pubertal onset in girls. Premature puberty would also explain most of the phenomena of the sex industry, including male porn and sex consumers, and female sex workers. It also explains sexual deviations, including homosexuality, as well as gender identity disorder(a diffuse sense of one's gender identity). The substitution of highly visual/exhibitionistic behaviors is employed to effect separation/individuation, primarily from the mother. The universal pervasiveness and preference for sexual intrusion fantasies seen in the sex industry is similarly based on failure to achieve healthy(parental)distancing in favor of pathological distancing.

No alien invasion of the planet could have been more effective than the Internet has been in putting pornography into every home, virtually unchallenged, and virtually overnight. How could this happen? Apparently, most parents won't even consider going without computers in the home, even if it means risking their children to premature, traumatic exposure to genital sex and encounters, with the main danger coming, not from "sexual predators" as portrayed by the media, but from seduction by other sexually precocious, deviant and unsupervised kids.

Go Asian Young Man

GJones writes: Luke, I was just reading your Nici and Stacey string and I saw the 15k for a high end escort. Call me frugal but I have a more cost effective plan for would be johns. Here is the breakdown.
Pattaya Beach Thailand.
RT air to Pattaya 750.00
Hard Body Bush 25.00 x 4 per day=100 x 7 =700 That is 28 Different women total.
5 Star Hotel 100.00 x 7=700
Food 200.00 Total Food is Cheap
Beers 100.00 Total Beers are cheap too
Rubbers 30.00 Bring enough to double wrap if desired or go multiples
Cabs 50.00
Cheap Beach 0.00 Free
Memories Priceless

Jeff writes: I read on your site where someone discusses the price of poontang in in Pattaya Thailand vs USA.

Something interesting that has been suppressed by the American AND Chinese media concerns Hainan Island. Now you might know the name Hainan Island from the recent news stories about the spy plane landing there. But what most people DON'T know is that Hainan Island is the Sex Paradise of China, far cheaper and with more beautiful women than anywhere in Thailand.

It is also a "special economic zone" in China, like ShenZen. It is known as the "Las Vegas" of China, where the top monied officials keep their mistresses in expensive houses they own and go on vacation. It is crawling with women. It is also the sex-junket destination for anyone with money in Commie China.

I was working with a TV news organization about this story, and they were going to run it when they got a call from the State Department and abruptly killed it. The Chinese didn't want all these Western newsman running around Hainan and discovering it is a wealthy playland, with hundreds of thousands of mini-skirted girls, Vegas-like hotels, Mercedes, BMWs and decadent discos and bars. NOT the dour "Mig base" that has been presented to us in the news media. They even favor US dollars as the currency of choice.

Anyone paying $15,000 for a piece of psychotic, whacked out US porn star poozle should be locked up in Bellevue. Sure, Pattaya is swell, but Second Wife Village in ShenZen, Bintan Island off Singapore, and many more place have women whose looks and prices make American girls look like the overprices harpies and ugly shrews they really are under the makeup.

Hainan MiniFAQ -by Foreign Correspondent

Hainan Dao (Island) is a large tropical island in the South China sea. Previously administered by the Government of Guangdong province, in 1988 it became Hainan Province. Now, it is a Special Economic Zone (SEZ), similar to Zhuhai and Shenzen. This gives it a certain amount of ministerial freedom from the Central Government. In fact, it is the a private playground elite members of the Central Government, and rarely gets a Gong An shakedown, like in Guangzhou. In Hainan, however, corruption is the rule. It is famous for having one of its governors executed for importing USD $300 Million of Jeeps and embezzling most of it.

Now..former Chief of Guanxi Province is in the same pickle, I hear now. He's waiting for his family to buy the bullet that blows his brains out. Hainan is the most southern area in China, near the disputed Spratly and Paracel islands. A large Chinese Air Force fighter base is located here. A top secret nuclear facility is there too. Around the base, are hundreds of hooker houses. Price is almost free. Haikou is the capital of Hainan province.

Get there by booking through Dragon Air out of Hong Kong CLK airport. About USD $100 each way, add $20 for business class (I do). Save about 50% by flying from Shenzen airport. From Haikou, you can fly virtually anywhere into Mainland China via China Southwest Airlines. Xian, Shanghai, Guangzhou, Shenzen, Chengdu, Kunming, Beijing. It is a very convenient crossroads to points inside China. You will need a Visa to visit China.

I have heard, but not confirmed, that you can get a visa on the spot, good only for Hainan SEZ. But not confirmed. Shenzen and Hainan since they are SEZ's are the only inbound gateways to China not requiring a visa, I am told. Do not depend on this. Get a multiple entry visa before entering. Dialects spoken are: Mandarin, Cantonese, Hainan Dialect, and Miao Minority Dialect. English is virtually never heard. No English menus, no English speaking service personnel, no English speaking taxi drivers. Guide are difficult. You might find a taxi driver. But I wouldn't trust one. Best is to find a Singapore or HK guy to tag along with. Or an American Chinese guy. Offer to pay for his pussy a few days.

Virtually all hotels are ASFO friendly. Without exception. Most have an inventory of girls in the lobby awaiting your arrival. The bellman will point them out to you. The girls are not afraid of laowai guys (foreigners)

Prices: Short Time: 300 Yuan ($36... $. 2 per yuan) base, expect quotes of up to 1000 Yuan. Average is 400-500. If you have some Mandarin skills, subtract 30%. Minority girls, and local Hainan Girls are less. Miao girls are wonderful, but may have chicken s--- between their toes.

Long Time: Girls don't usually go for this. But add 50% to above. You need mandarin skills. Multi Day companion: Need Mandarin skills..about 600 Yuan per day. Where? Everywhere. Really. Working girls everywhere. Better to ask who Isn't working.

Cities: Haikou - big, like Waikiki. Has old colonial section. Great charm. Faded aging colonial western buildings. 2nd floor Barber shops a good bet. Cherries here galore. Lot's of local color. Like Hong Kong 1880.

Haikou - BinHai Road Lu. Center of action. Golden Hotel is good. SanYa. The Kona of Hainan. Near miles of unspoiled beaches. Islands. Seafood. Lot's of Chinese tour groups however. Pussy galore. Don't go Chinese New Year. Prices 3x. Stay in hotel by the beach. Some very expensive, 5 star. Expect at least 1000 Yuan (RMB) for hotel girls. They hang around garden areas. Must give 50% to management. Some stunners, however. Chickens cruise beach at 1 hr after sunset. You get swim and f--- in the water in the moonlight about 300RMB. Take her to your hotel room. f--- again add +100. Ask her to dance for you.

Qionghai...for locals. Massage parlor next to main square. 50-75 little chickens. 300RMB Full Service Boob Thai style massage. Boob Massage, suck and f---. 90 minutes. Overtime ok. Shoot as many times as you can. No problem. Nice mama san. Play cards with the girls. They win every time. Or let them. Minority Villages. Many. Local prices around 80RMB for quick f--- in thin wall rooms. f---ing everywhere. Lots of laughing and smiles. Smelly concrete floors. Dirty. Young girls (not underage). Lots of stares from local guys. Girls love it. Maybe you can f--- them for free. They want to have your white baby. I like this style, personally. Some different minority in Hainan.

Local Hainan girls. Very cute and small. Dark skin. Very sweet with classic round chinese face. Western guys might not appreciate that. I do. Miao minority girls. More western features, taller, thinner. Wild f---s. Can cum many times. Han girls mostly do not like to do the Rocky Road. Basuo...never went there. But heard you can f--- all service girls there.

Bus Girls, Dept store girls, service station girls, all of them. On my list. Procurement Places Barber shops. Be nice to mama san. She will show u the girls. about 300 RMB short time. Show her your hotel card. Girl will call Mama san to say she arrived safely. No problem. The Mamasans protect the girls.

Greeting Girls at Restaurants. Need Mandarin. But available. Some stunners. Beer Girls. My favorite. Available. Fun. Pretty. Selected for large boobs. If you find one, keep her. Friendly, open, like white guys. Language will be a problem as usual. Tiger Beer, Anchor Beer. Local Beer Girls. Sexy little lycra like dresses. Lots of cleavage. A nice tip and a smile will get you into their panties. Chinese guys never tip. They're too cheap. Their pay is so low (maybe about USD $50 per week) that an offer for one or two week companionship and f---ing will be accepted. They will quit for that. Need to negotiate. Or..just smile, pull our 200, point to your watch, then point to the door. 1000 would work for sure :-)

Gwen Rogers Clears Her Name

Curious writes: I always wondered why a certain Orthodox Jewish porn gossip columnist never used his moral authority to denounce a certain Hollywood madam. Now I know why! And Chaim, you too?!

Nici@Nicisgirls.com writes: "...I have attached the picture of the actual page where Gwen Rogers appears on Stacey's website. I had Gwen up on my website last year after she had agreed to take a booking with me and then she changed her mind. I also helped Gwen contact Stacey to be removed from her website. I have forwarded this to Gwen in case she has comment."

Gwen Rogers writes Luke, Nici and Stacey: To whom it may concern! I am not, was not, and would never be an escort under any circumstances! I have contacted Nici in regard to this...and my next step is getting my lawyers involved! This is rediculas. Attached it the letter I sent to booth Stacy and Nici. Also, I'd advice you to take the crap you wrote about me off your site as well! You have 24 hours, or my lawyers will be contacting you first thing Monday morning! Sencirely Gwen Rogers

Nici & Stacy, and whom else it may concern!:

Look...this is absolute bull s---! I am sick and tired of my name and reputation being dragged threw the mud on the count of the two of you! I don''t want to have any thing to do with either or you...never did...never will!

Now I find out that I'm involved in some more crap...and stuff is being spread all over the internet that I may have or am an escort for you two! Let me tell you something...you have 24 hours to make the webmaster of the website mentioned below, or any other one at that matter...to take that s--- off of there! AND include an apology saying that I never worked for either of you!

Furthermore...take any images of me off of both of your sites...even in any "models" sections asap! If all of this is not done in 24 hours or sooner...you will be hearing from my lawyer first thing on Monday morning!

This is the site: www.l-keford.com

Sincerely, Gwen Rogers

MikeSouth.com writes: Apparently Gwen attended school at one of those California schools where they teach outcome based education or whatever, her spelling and grammar make Rob Black look intelligent.

Nici@Nicisgirls.com writes: Luke, I already made it very clear to you in my initial e-mail on the subject that Gwen Rogers has never worked for me as an escort. I contacted her over two years ago about bookings and she expressed some interest so I put her on my private page to see what i could line up for her, at that time I did not have a Millionaire Club. When I finally had a booking lined up for her I contacted her and she said she was not interested in escort work, I believe that she was confused the first time I contacted her that this may have been for some type of modeling job because she seemed surprised when i went into details with her about the job. At that point I was honest with her and told her that I had put her pictures up on my private page but I immediately took them down when I learned she was not interested in escorting. I also let her know that she was listed on Stacey's private page as well and I gave her Stacey's e-mail address so that she could deal with it herself. This was two years ago! When I challenged Stacey on the Gwen Rogers issue the other day because Gwen is still listed on Stacey's website she told me that Gwen is aware that she is on her website and that she does in fact work for her but at a $15,000 minimum and only in her hometown. I believe this to be a lie, I don't think that Gwen ever had any intention of escorting and that this was just miscommunication between us, I have been honest about that fact from my first e-mail to you about her. I would have never mentioned her name but I felt I had to as a response to Stacey's e-mail to you with her picture from my website. I'm sorry that Gwen had to be involved in this. Maybe now Stacey will see how her indiscretion is hurting so many people. Gwen's name would have never been brought up had she not felt the need to send you her picture and tell lies about her.

Stacey at CovergirlsInternational.com says she represents nude model Tammy Boom for escorting. Tammy denies this. She writes Luke: "Nope...not even remotely true... SORRY."

Model Patricia Ford from PatriciaFord.com writes: "Dear Luke, It was very nice to talk to you on the phone today. I just wanted to send you an e-mail to reiterate that I do not know Stacey of Covergirls International. I have never spoken to her and I have certainly never worked for her. I found out that she had my pictures on her website almost a year ago so I sent her an e-mail back then asking her very nicely to please remove them. She replied that she would only do so if I called her. The nerve she has! She put my pictures up without my permission in the first place, she did not even know me! So I left her a message on her voicemail to take my pictures down from her website immediately or else I would take legal action against her. She then sent me a dozen e-mails trying to sell herself on me and dropping names of different girls.

"When it became clear to her that I would never work for her she became very irate and threatened me! I talked to some of the girls she mentioned and they were all very upset because they did not know her either. I just got back from the Internext convention in Las Vegas where I was approached by a lot of my friends who told me that she still has my pictures up on her website and that she is constantly dropping my name in her e-mails when trying to recruit girls and clients, she says that we are very good friends! Whoever this lady is she is obviously a liar and I would advise any girl or client that she might have to stay as far away from her as possible because she is obviously very unstable. You would not believe the awful things I heard about her in Las Vegas, there is not a single person that I talked to who had a nice thing to say about her. It amazesd me how she is still in business! If I find out that she mentions my name again or still has my pictures up after this I will definitely take legal action."

Stacey tells Luke Friday morning that the following letter was not written by her and was faked. But it seems to be written in Stacey's inimitable style. I have removed many names from the following letter because l-keford.com does not engage in gossip. Just the facts, mam.

Stacey from CoverGirlsInternational writes Patricia Ford, Nici@Nicisgirls.com and Mike at NYCFantasies.com: Patricia, I have spoke to a few girls and asked them to speak to you because you are impossible to talk to at this point in regards to your irrational behavior towards me and flipping out saying all those horrible things when I have n ever done anything to you but once placed your photos on a page as per nicis instructions when we were going to work together and split the commissions for you. You asked me to remove them, said you were not interested and that was that. End of story!

Now out of nowhere you come attacking me full force with threats of going to Playboy and a Lawyer. So being that you are putting me against a wall with threats I have no choice but to say this:

FIRST I URGE YOU ....TO drop your nonsense. Should you try to damage my good standing with Playboy AND continue with your public remarks on Luke F-rd I would have to give names of my Clients & their numbers, who will gladly help me through this as they will stand up for me, they have before. They will state that you are indeed a prostitute and they have paid money and the amounts for your services. What else can I do? After all a threat is to be taken serious. So The truth about you would have to come out. I would also make sure a public statement be made as you have made against me.

I don't want to you are forcing me into a corner. I EXPECTED A "THANK YOU" AND WAS SHOCKED TO GET ALL YOUR HARRASSMENT and I also have it all copied, I save everything you or nici send me. I learned long ago to keep tapes and copies from people who threaten you. I was kind in helping you when Playboy & all the media asked me about you, even Nici, I stated I wish to make no remarks and I stood up for Carrie and all the other girls they asked about stating they did NOT escort and did not even know Nici to protect their reputations, They downloaded Nicis complete Millionaires Club the week she opened it. They hit search engines and saw all the Playboy names she uses in search engines as Key words, that is how it first started, the same way they first found me two years ago when I had a lawsuit with them over Playboysclub.com that I owned. They have every picture since her millionaires club opened including her old site completely downloaded too and so do several other authorities who contacted me, for comments.

...I simply continued to say, Nici and I can't stand eachother and so I have nothing to do with her and knew nothing more than it is impossible to get her to take pictures down....OH I COULD HAVE SAID MORE...BUT WHY IT JUST PUTS ME IN DANGER, SO I BOW OUT GRACEFULLY.

I told Mark and a few friends I was buying a 2million dollar Victorian Village and paying cash for most of it to open a Tea Room, Antique Store, Shabby Chic Shop, Boutique with my own designs and I did and I am proud of it, then I said I bought my Mom a home so she could retire, translated and gossiped from Nici turns into I am broke...well s--- It did drain my savings but look what I have....for it!

You people are pethetic always trying to hurt someone, always trying to ruin a rpeutation , didn't your Mother raise you with any decency and human kind respect of others? Didn't she tell you when you speak badly about others it makes you look bad? Didn't she tell you Gossip is as Gossip does? and most of all the golden rules...Do onto others as you would have them do onto you....or what goes around comes around? so be it like I said I don't want the spotlight and all the trouble and attention it brings! The only comments I ever made were in self defense when she attacked me publically like you have just done.

But I would tell them since then several people came forth on my behalf and are willing to tell them when, where, hotel dates, airplane reservations, etc....as to proof of you being a prostitute for the last few years and one of Nicisgirls Top girls. Afterall it is just the honest Truth, isn't it. Please just back off and I will forget we ever met, but you have tell Luke F-rd you do know me and tell the truth, we just had a run in about your pics, they were removed and that was the end of it. THE TRUTH once again! I WOULD NEVER CONSIDER SOMETHING THIS DRASTIC BUT YOUR THREATS AVE ME WORRIED. SO SCARE ME...and I'll have no choice but to tell the truth. what else can I do to protect myself. I suggest you shut your big mouth and quit making trouble because suddenly you

What goes around my darling comes around and I have to protect myself when someone starts threatening me as you have now done. You have NO idea how serious and out of control this could get...

Don't you think the smart thing to do is leave me alone and pick on someone else.

Wake up and get smart! Your career is at stake here! Your reputation, don't you want to get married some day? Care about your family? Geeeeezeee...you are playing with fire! You would be this stupid and do this to your self over all this nonsense against me, a person you have no idea about? It's fact I own an Escort service, I don't care I have for 15 years, my daughter and my family know, because in everything I do in my life "I AM HONEST"....come judement day I will not stand there in pity, I know what I do and I love my job and feel making introductions to adults who wish to meet for convenience sake and be paid for their meeting is fine by me. I say I was a Call Girl, proudly, I am not ashamed. I met the greatest people in the world being a Call Girl and they are still my dear friends. So you can't hurt me.

I've gone up against Pimps like Mike and trash like Nici for 15 years being jealous of my business and success. They don't scare me. I do everything Legal, Pay my Taxes and I have a book and movie just about ready for the public. That's how proud I am of what I have done with my life and all those I helped get thier lives back on go. Maybe I should add a page or two about you...? just kidding..

But seriously Patricia, back off .....or get ready to seriously play. I am sick of you , Nici and Mike and all your stupid games and hurting people, ruining reputations and attacking people for no reason other than petty childish jealousy! I suggest you just apologize and ask Luke to remove the remarks from both of us and let things fade away quietly. If not...let the chips fall you deserve it for starting trouble. Sincerely and I mean very sincerely..... Stacey Don't bother telling everyone about this letter, I will send it to the girls, clients and people I think should know about whats going on so they get the HONEST version of it. Including Mike & Nici so you all can have a good gossip attack together

Stacey writes Friday morning: Luke,

This will be my final statement to you and to all who read your board. I can not comment any more as it always gets twisted and becomes a ridiculous ordeal of drama! I see too many people getting hurt and that's not fair. Here are the facts and my final farewell. Please post this as I have written it and do not add to or remove any of its content, please.

There is no Madam War, I have been in business 12 years making Private Introductions to the Rich & Famous, successfully so, long before Nici was out of grade school! I pay my taxes, Have IC contracts with Escorts who work for me and have a license, a CPA, a Lawyer and have a legitimate business, I play by the rules! I have been in the industry 15 years. Long before Nici of Nicisgirls or the internet so there is no way Nici is hurting my business or my reputation. She's hurting herself and the girls! The girls and The Clients who know me think she's nuts and I will continue to book all of them. If anything ....many more girls and Clients have contacted me to work with me as a result of her immature indiscreet tactics and her insane obsession with me and trying to ruin my business which as a result only hurts the girls in the end, I am sadened to say.

I WISH TO APOLOGIZE TO ALL THE GIRLS MENTIONED AS A RESULT OF THIS NONSENSE.

It was never my intention to hurt but to help those get off Nicis site when the girls came to me in desperation.I don't have a problem with girls working with both of us, actually it's smart of them, twice the money! But that's where she can't get a grip. She can't stand that they also work for me. No one is exclusive to Nici! "HELLO"

There are 15 HUGE Escort Agencies in the US I have networked with for years and most the girls at one time or another will work for us all. It's smart for them too! Nici's a drop in the bucket compared to them! Her claim to fame is XXX Stars and it's no secret we all work with them now!! Why not we all have different Clients!

Nici's insecurities came when many of the same Clients I book Centerfolds with went to her for XXX Stars I didn't have at the time and her Clients came to me for Centerfolds she didn't have. My business has always specialized in Top Models & Centerfolds just recently 3 years ago I started working with XXX Stars and opened my website. That is when Nici started trying to get me closed down. She hired a private detective who I am now friends with to find me, she hired a Computer guy who is now a Client of mine, to put backdrops on my emails & hack into my site. She sent me a computer virus twice with fake emails that traced back to her. She had a Client call and book several girls then called me laughing saying he'd never book them she just wanted to see if I could really book them, he is now a good friend and books with me. She told several girls I had their pics on my site and gave them my number, trying to cause trouble and now they all work for me!

Everything she has done to cause me grief has turned around and actually been a good thing, why? They knew Nici that's how they met me, she sent them all to do sneaky back stabbing things and they all knew because of that they could not trust her! Then they meet me and can't believe what a nice normal person I am after all the horror stories she tells them....I found out long ago, if you talk about someone it better be true! It ALWAYS comes back to you & in this biz it's a small world!

I see Nici as the next Heidi Fleiss...alright... and as her own self destructive time bomb with both feet in her big mouth! She is ruthless, wreckless and endangers everyone in this industry. Anyone who would have contact with her by phone or email after all this nonsense and her public statements, all the press, The Philly magazine, NY Posts and various articles SHOULD know her phones may be tapped and emails traced as they always do that with an investigation and after she has challenged the LAPD, The NYPD and all the NEWS & MEDIA including Playboy with her bragging of being this huge Madam making millions off her Bimbos as she put it. Well how can they not investigate her, She is just begging for trouble! IT'S STUPID!

No one has to go aginst Nici she is attracting this all herself and will be her own downfall, just common sense, Luke... Nici hasn't hurt me just an insane obsession with me and that will end here and now. As I said I have given all her threats to my Lawyer and I will not have anything more to do with Nici or any comments about Nici after this email to you.

I NEVER said anything about contacting law enforcement the way you made it sound, that was unfair to post that. I SAID ...I was going to file a law suit against Nici if she didn't quit threatening me and get a restraining warrant as she scared me. Nothing is more important than my family and when she started having Men call me and sending me life endangering threats...I'd be crazy NOT to take her serious.

I feel like she is a sick Stalker! Lets face it when someone constantly says they are going to have someone break your legs, make you dissappear, have you taken out, and is that twisted to even make remarks like that under any pressure .....they are sick! I have NEVER threatened anyone and would never get so distressed to be driven to even say something that insane! That's is just SCARY! but Look at all the dead people in the world who were stalked and didn't take it serious. YES I definitely gave my Lawyer all the proof in hopes of her stopping it and incase something happens they know who to look for! She flat out made insane threats against me! I hope this public statement will get her off my back once & for all!

PLEASE NOTE THIS

I have hundreds of girls on my site who are NOT escorts but MODELS period. I only have ONE page of escorts on my PRIVATE side all with my permission to be there all with model releases and it was to be discreet for all.

Luke, it's all been a jealous battle with Nici flipping out over girls working for anyone but her. The girls should be able to work wherever they wish, it reminds me of a Pimp who will hurt a girl if she isn't loyal to him.....UNREAL! She has really caused a lot of people heartaches with all this nonsense and with no regard to them.

If anyone reads all your postings they will see my comments were always to try and straighten things out when I was attacked by Nici. It was always in self defense. I don't need to comment anymore, I have a great business, great people, great girls and we all know the truth, so be it.

This will be my last comment so all of you can have at it. This is ridiculous and I will no longer be apart of any of it. My phones have been ringing off the hook, my email is overloaded because of this and where I appreciate the added business it's too much for me! I just sold two of my sites because I don't have time and want things as they were, VERY EXCLUSIVE, DISCREET & PRIVATE!

www.CoverGirlsInternational.com is a website for Models, Actresses and Escorts ALL PHOTOS HAVE MODEL RELEASES and all models have my personal telephone number to contact me! All the Adult Content is licensed and Should any model wish to have her photo removed from my site simply call me.

Nici@Nicisgirls.com writes: "Luke, That's all great for Stacey to say she wants to be private now after she dragged dozens of girls into her sick game. I did not start this on your website Luke, when you called me about Patricia. I asked you to leave me out. It was inevitable that Stacey would drage me in since that is all she can talk about is me. I think this all backfired on Stacey because the whole world saw how scary she is with her long, rambling psychobabble e-mails and threats towards Patricia, clients, Mike and I. She does not seem to understand the definition of discretion so how could she use it? I am not the one up here bragging about my homes, business, girls, cars, etc. She is! Please, show me one place where i ever spoke about what I have and I swear Luke, I will be your love slave! I never said I was like Heidi Fless, I never said I had millions, Stacey said all of that! I challenge her and you to show me one place where I said anything of the sort. I have nothing bad to say about Stacey, I just want her to go away. I have never threatened her life, I challenge her to prove that I have done that as well. She says she has it on tape, ask her to play it for you. Hopefully this will be the end of her but I doubt it, she is just prepping for the eighth round. You know where I am at Luke, she'll be fighting the next round alone."

Cashing In On Porn Boom

From the BBC:

Two European firms are hoping to cash in on the age-old maxim that sex sells.

Private Media, a Barcelona-based broker of pornographic TV content, announced it had hired Germany's Commerzbank to explore the possibility of a European stock market listing. The firm, which supplies hardcore pornography in 35 countries, is already listed on the Nasdaq exchange in New York, and is believed to be aiming primarily at Frankfurt's Neuer Markt.

Separately, T-Online, Europe's biggest internet service provider and a subsidiary of Germany's Deutsche Telekom, said it was considering offering erotic content on its proprietary webpages in an attempt to attract more traffic. "You can make a lot of money with erotica," said Thomas Holtrop, T-Online's chairman, in an interview with FT Deutschland. T-Online has so far had a policy of barring pornographic content.

Two years ago, Beate Uhse, a German sex merchandise firm, floated on the Neuer Markt. The firm's choice of Commerzbank as financial adviser is significant. The German bank has taken part in many of Europe's biggest porn-related corporate deals, including the Beate Uhse flotation.

Both Beate Uhse's and Private Media's shares have gained by about 30% in value over the last three months.

And earlier this week US Playboy Enterprises made its first venture into hardcore erotica, paying $70m for three pornographic TV networks. Playboy's shares bounced up by 12% on the news that it was abandoning its soft-porn-only policy.

The size of the global pornographic industry is traditionally estimated at an annual $20bn (£14bn), but is likely to be significantly higher.

Adam Glasser Interview

I found an interview with Adam Glasser aka Seymore Butts on the June 14 archives of the Bob Berkowitz show Lovebytes.

Adam said he was warned to not get into the industry because of the presence of the Mafia and the difficulty in getting paid. Adam heard the industry was dominated by folks who'd been together since the 1970s and prefered to deal only with each other.

Bob: "Is the industry still mobbed up?"

Adam: "I think that was an overstatement when told to me ten years ago although I am not saying that it is completely false. There are occasions when you do come across and have to deal with those type of people. I think that's not unlike most businesses.

"Tera Patrick has had a 24-hour a day babysitter since day one assigned to her by her company [Digital Playground]."

Bob: "Where you from in New York?"

Adam: "Riverdale."

Bob: "Why are there such an inordinate number of Jews in porn?"

Adam: "Isn't it strange?"

Bob: "It's amazing."

Adam: "I've wondered about that myself. I might study that later in life."

Bob: "I'm about to start a doctoral program in human sexuality. I've been toying for a subject for my thesis."

Adam: "It's probably the same answer for Hollywood too."

Bob: "The originals moguls were Jewish."

Adam: "Even today at the studios, most of the people who run them are Jewish."

Adam says his favorite actress to work with was Vanessa Chase. He said he wouldn't want to work with Jasmin St. Claire ('rude'), Juli Ashton ('not my type, know her too well') and Tera Patrick.

Adam: "I know Tera well. I've had experience with her. And that turns me off. From the pure looks of it all, she looks like a great girl."

Bob: "I like Tera but there's a detachment about her."

Adam: "Tera's been honest about this on her show. She's been physically abused by the last two men she's been involved with. That probably has something to do with that detachment."

Bob: "She proposed marriage to me on her last time on the show. She likes older Jewish gentlemen."

Adam: "In her movies, I find her to be a pillow queen. Inactive. She lets the stud take the lead."

Adam says few people wanted to work with Leanna Hart because she was a bitch and wanted to be treated like a Hollywood queen.

Adam says he was upset with Alisha Klass's negative comments about him but he wasn't going to say more.

Glasser's opened up an office in Amsterdam to better distribute his movies throughout Europe.

Bob: "You haven't seen any evidence that this new Bush administration is going to do anything about pornography?"

Adam: "My hit [from the Los Angeles Police Department for obscenity] came a few days after the Bush inauguration. And then there was another hit [obscenity bust against Jeff Steward from Legend for bukkake]."

Bob: "The Bush administration has created an atmosphere for local DAs to go after the industry."

Glasser's now defending himself against a local obscenity charge for Tampa Tushy Fest which features a fisting scene, the first American fisting scene in 20 years. Adam mentions that the industry's dinosaurs (folks from the 1970s) made a deal around 1979 with a local DA to not do fisting and other controversial sex acts in hardcore videos. The Los Angeles vice squad which busted Glasser told him that pornographers would see a lot more of them in the months ahead.

Adam: "I'm going to trial on June 29th. We have an obscenity case with the city of Los Angeles centered around that tape Tampa Tushy Fest 1. That fisting scene was the first fisting scene released in the United States for 20 years. Although I was told by many people that that [fisting] is not put into movies, nobody could ever show me why. They could only tell me that some dinosaur owners from our industry made some sort of handshake agreement with some District Attorney that they wouldn't put this in the movies. I am not privy to that. I don't know who made that agreement."

Booger Nights

July 17 "Booger Nights" Chip is distraught when he finds out his sister, Eva, has become an adult film actress. When the gang realizes she is forced into 'performing,' they know only one thing can save her: a big bust. Who better to bust her out than Notch, posing as adult film star Johnny Come Lately' When Notch is captured, it is up to SPF-30 to save him. Meanwhile, the Mayor tries to boost her career by attending a Governor's ball. Unfortunately, she must take homeless Chappy as her date. Guest starring The Sopranos Vincent Pastore and Victoria Silvestedt returns as Eva Rommel.

Luke on Lovebytes

Thursday morning I appeared on the Bob Berkowitz show Lovebytes on Eyada.com.

I talk about getting thrown out of my shul.

Bob: "Why is writing on porn worse than being a crime beat reporter for the LA Times? What if you devoted your life to chronicling gang bangs? This country has a special place in hell for sex. I doubt you've written much condoning the porn industry."

Luke: "But I get income from my porn banners."

Bob: "Then you're no better than Al Goldstein or Larry Flynt. Luke, you're a pornographer."

Luke: "No, I'm an anti-porn moral crusader.

"Anyway, it's hard to be a journalist, any kind of journalist, and be an orthodox Jew. There are very few. Most journalists are secular liberals."

Bob: "Luke, I just looked at your site and you've got a lot of [porn] links there. If I were a rabbi, I'd flip my yarmulke also. You preach religion and morality yet you're making money off pornography. You're a hypocrite. You're promoting what you consider to be illicit and immoral sex. Luke, my hands are cleaner than yours. I don't take any money from the porn industry. Luke, you get bounced by the rabbis and I whup your ass too."

Luke: "Wait, you have those filthy ads for better sex tapes."

Bob: "That's not porn. There's sex in there. But how else do you teach people how to make love unless you show them?"

Luke: "Bob, how else can I show people the evil of pornography unless I link to pornographic web sites?

"Anyway, it's easier to morally justify something to yourself, than to get your religious community to go along with you."

Bob: "Links are fine. But don't take money from them. When I covered the Reagen administration, it would be like reporting for CNN and also being on the Reagen Whitehouse payroll.

"Luke, you can be a good person without going to church or synagogue every week?"

Luke: "But I go to synagogue, not for God's sake, but for my sake. To see my friends and build up sense of community."

Bob: "Your only choice is to go to a liberal temple."

Luke: "Where they seat men and women together and they're full of homosexuals."

Bob: "You'll find that gays are not so bad afterall."

Luke: "I'll end up at Conservative shul with a lesbian rabbi."

Bob: "And you'll fantasize about her and Tera Patrick.

"I'm sure there are more than a few people who found out about your expulsion and thought, 'Good, he deserves it.' What goes around, comes around."

Trevor emails the show: "I bet if Luke's synagogue looked into the backgrounds of all its congregants, it would have to ban many of them. I think that what happened to Luke was unfair."

Bob talks about a psychologist who operates a web site that sells sex toys. And he had a legal and an accounting firm decline to provide service to him while at the same time, they served an asbestos maker.

Luke: "That's the challenge of making moral judgements. You can always be compared and contrasted. It's easier if you don't make moral judgements."

Bob reads an email wondering why religion insists on entering people's bedrooms and regulating private behavior.

Luke: "I only emotionally have a problem with the rabbi's decision expelling me. I don't have a moral or Jewish argument against it. Religion tends to totalitarianism - to total control of an individual's life - from how they think, to how they speak and sleep, have sex and eat. My father the Christian evangelist would often say, 'Unless you take God seriously in everything, you don't take Him seriously in anything.'

"We observed Passover a few months ago which often regarded as a festival of freedom. But in a true Jewish sense, Passover simply marks the Jews changing slavemaster. Once ruled by Pharoah, they are now ruled by God and his many commandments. Religious people want the freedom to be able to live their religion, not freedom to do whatever their hearts desire."

Bob: "But doesn't God love all people?"

Luke: "I believe God loves all good people."

Bob: "You can still be a good person and believe in Christ and not eat kosher?"

Luke: "Yes."

Bob: "Then why are we so rigid about these rules if God loves all good people? Why do we have to be so orthodox and doctrinaire?"

Luke: "All successful organizations are doctrinaire about certain rules. Most people need a moral discipline in their life. Without it, they naturally tend to moral entropy. Religion, when done right, is an excellent form of moral discipline. And the way to develop discipline is to practice it in dozens of minor ways throughout the day. Thus religions have rituals to remind their adherents about God and his moral demands. It's difficult to legistlate ethics in that there are so many variables in relations between people. Thus most religions spend far more time legislating rituals than ethics."

Bob: "Luke, in our religion, you can't mix linen and wool in the same garment. What the hell does that have to do with being a religious person?"

Luke: "It means that you have to take cognizance of the divine even in the clothes you wear. It means that you must be sensitive to distinctions. Judaism hates mixing things - from linen and wool, to meat and milk, to life and death, to holy time (e.g. the Sabbath) and secular time.

Luke: "I sincerely believe that Hollywood hurts our society, far more than porn does. Because Hollywood is bigger."

Bob: "But murder and violent crime and illegitimate births are dramatically down in the last few years."

Luke: "I don't believe that entertainment directly causes people to murder or rape. I believe that the lack of personal moral control leads to violent crime. But I do believe that MTV and that ilk of entertainment morally desensetizes people. Pornography desensetizes people. Hollywood leaves people more jaded and cynical and not as soft and human and innocent."

Bob: "But it makes them more open minded and less judgemental."

Luke: "I like people to be judgemental about certain things. I want people to be judgemental about unethical behavior."

Email: "Bob, what are you doing to continue Judaism?"

Bob: "I observe the pertinent holidays. I go to a Passover Seder. I go to synagogue on the High Holy Days. And I try to live a good life, a life tzedaka, righteousness."

Luke: "Do you get emails asking about your Judaism with your other guests?"

Bob: "No."

Email: "Do Jews and negroes get along any better inside porn than outside?"

Luke and Bob: "About the same."

Luke: "The broader point is does multi-culturalism work, can people of different ethnicities get along?"

Eddj writes: MAKE UP YOUR MIND, LUKE. EITHER YOU'RE FOR PORN OR AGAINST IT. IF YOU'RE AGAINST IT, THEN SHUT UP AND SHUT DOWN.

Luke writes: "I sent my mom a link to Bob's archive page to listen to me today but she listened to the wrong show."

Mom writes Luke: "I got onto a discussion with you, someone else and a Dyanna Lauren and think this wasn't the one you meant. You said you found gang bangs arousing. That wasn't for your mother to hear, was it?"

Fred writes Luke: "Ya know, I don't think I've ever had a conversation with my mother about gang bangs. Sir, I admire the liberal, open and honest relation you have with your Mom. This is what good parental communication is all about. But I guess I'm a stuck-up old fuddy duddy."

Helpful writes: Thank God she doesn't know you erotic feelings toward bukkake!

Riddle of the Sphinx

Chaim Amalek writes: Why are single jewish american women, especially of the nonreligious variety, so sloppy in their appearance? Cannot say what they look like in LA, but in New York they are ALL a good fifteen pounds above fighting weight.

Hey you many hebrew chicks who read l-keford.com, why are you so fat, sloppy, and feministic in your presentation? I like trim, fit women. (And yeah, I am not, but so what?)

Luke says: Chaim, why are you so bitter and hateful?

To which Chaim answers: Because I have been kicked out of my shul, that's why! I have been no less dispossessed of that which is important to me than a Palestinian refugee. Sans shul, I am a refugee of the soul, and the jews did that to me. How could I not be bitter? And also because we do things for ratings.

Bridgette Kerkove Update

Skeeter Kerkove called: "Bridgette's on a Jill Kelly Productions shoot today. Tuesday, her and Asia did Babewatch. Monday she was with Wicked Pictures. She got up at 5AM. She got there a little after 8AM. Check out her schedule because I think that only Bridgette can do it. Then she wrapped at 2AM. She got home and set the alarm for 4:30AM. And she was out in the Valley at 7AM. Then drove to Oceanside, near San Diego, and was there all day doing dialogue and setups. Came back to the Valley that night to do the sex scene. Finished after midnight. Out of 46 hours, she'd been on porn sets over 40. That's a schedule that nobody else can do.

"Yesterday she did all the stuff with the kids for the Fourth of July carnival. Then was gone again [to work in porn] this morning early."

Brian Kushner writes: Where are her kids?

Belgalen writes: I hope Bridgette doesn't burn herself out doing all those things within such a short time. I'd hate to see this wonderful beauty gone! Hey, Skeeter, make sure she doesn't overdo all those stuff!

Farrell Love Jenna

Farrell Timlake from HomeGrownVideo.com writes: Sun Tzu, the oft quoted military philosopher, said something to the effect of "Victory is when you see the bodies of your enemies floating by in the river." In porn, according to me at least, victory is when you kiss and make up, then f--- like bunnies spending a holiday on Easter Island.

I can easily relate to Brad Shaw and his experience with Jenna and her beau Jay. I too had my life and limb threatened at one point with a reminder that I would not be safe at trade shows. However, I was born with the oblivious gene. Also, I am a businessman, so I was not about to miss the adult internet show in Vegas.

I had no problem coming up to Jenna while she was with her eight foot tall body builder bodyguard and her fiancé Mr. "Mad Dog" Sterling. Upon introducing myself, the only thing I was struck by was how cordial she was toward me. Impressed with her professionalism, I was humbled. In such a state, I felt no shame apologizing to Jay for calling him a suitcase pimp and whatever other negative aspersions I fired his way during our period of ego wars. Accepting my apology, he did me honor and justice not to pull out his tommy gun and sing me the old one two.

To seal the truce during this peace summit, I offered the gift of mainstream publicity on Jenna which she graciously accepted. Now we are discussing ways to save the planet through better pornography. Which goes to show that there is hope for world peace when two entities as distinctly differing as me at Homegrownvideo.com and Jenna Jameson can come together (of course, I mean that as an obvious porno double entendre) for the business of pleasure. Blessings on the Jizz biz and may Peace (Piece) be on this Earth. I return to another hard day at the orifice making www.homegrownvideo.com the best Site (Sight) on the planet.

Heather Barron - An Escort In Dire Need Of Shoes

From heatherbarronxxx.com: SHOE NEED I usually ask for memberships or bookings but hell, what I really need is some shoes. My heels are years old and have really had it. I take a 7 1/2 and I'm always usually exactly that size. So if some of you foot fetish guys want to spring for a pair of heels or cool shoes for me, I'd really appreciate it. Don't ask me what my tastes are. You send it to me, I'll wear it. I'd rather just tell you I need shoes, hope that you might find it rather kinky to go out shopping for a sexy or practical pair of shoes for your online girlfriend. I'm hoping I can replace my white 3"inches, black 3"inchers, maybe a pair of Timberlands or Sketchers and a pair of Steve Maddens. I don't know. My feet are killing me. I really should have replaced them sooner. I did go out to the mall today but it is near impossible for me to buy myself shoes. I can buy clothing up the wazoo and everything else for home and beauty but when it comes to my feet, I try everything on and then get tuckered out and just say "f--- it"...now I'm too tired to stand in line. So maybe you can go get 'em for me.

Jeff Goodman Profile

Jeff Goodman invented phone sex for Carl Ruderman's Drake Publications in 1983. Carl promised Jeff a piece of the multi-million dollar industry but when Goodman pressed him on it, Ruderman fired him in 1984.

Just out of college, Goodman's first job in Manhattan was in 1976 for a mob controlled paperback book company, Star Publications.

"I wrote two books a week for $140 a week under the name Wolf Fleishbinder. The company published cheap porn novels. I wrote about 300.

"They had this homosexual Raymond DeGrandis and this fat woman Florence who ran their porn operation. They had a big office called Typographics. They placed big ads in the Village Voice seeking writers who could do a book a week. You'd go up there and type directly into these primitive typesetting machines. This was pre-computer. And you had to write a chapter a day. And they gave you $140 per book.

"The company was owned by Star Distributors operated by Teddy Rothstein and Robert DiBernardo (DiBi). DiBi ran Star out of a warehouse on Lafayette Street. The building was owned by John Zaccaro, the husband of Geraldine Ferraro. Zaccarro claimed to not know what was going on in the building.

"At the same time, I wrote for Eddie Mishkin's company. He's been associated with risque material since the 1930s, when he published a book called "Natural Childbirth," earning tens of thousands of dollars. He published sleazy transsexual pamphlets.

"Eddie would say, 'Do you know what a transvestite is? Write a dirty book about transvestites.' I'd write a book in one night. I was 20 years old. I'd give it to him and he'd open up a book safe and peel off a $100. And he'd say, 'Ok, here's some money. If you want to make more money like this, you have to learn more stuff.'

"Next I worked for was Myron Fass. I did all his porn magazines. He had Erotica, Jaguar, a million pulp magazines. I also did his UFO and dog and car magazines. I edited about 60 of his magazines.

"Then I went to Reese Publications which published True Crime and True Sex stories. The father in charge was Maurice Rosenfeld, an old time pulp publisher.

"Then I worked for David Zentner who hired me to do a Penthouse Forum ripoff called Variations and Velvet Touch. He was bicoastal - he had an office in Manhattan in the Graybar and in Los Angeles.

"The entire reason he ran his porn empire was just to meet women. We had this magazine Velvet Touch and we'd publish an entire questionaire just designed for Zentner to meet women. 'Would you like to sleep with a 65-year old man?' 'Would you like to be flown to New York?' And any girl who filled out the questionaire properly would be immediately flown to New York.

"I spent about two years in that office. Zentner spent about 60% of his office time on the phone with women who answered his questionaires. He'd talk dirty to them and masturbate. Everybody would know and they'd laugh and his secretary would say, 'He's talking to another one.' Zentner gave me the idea for phone sex.

"There was no way to make money off of phone calls until 1983 and the development of 976 numbers. When it started, Ruderman had a virtual monopoly in that business. That man made tens if not hundreds of millions of dollars in a couple of years. He was the only player. Then a million people descended, doing sportslines and things like that. But they allused the structure of these 976 lines. Eventually it changed into the 900 call system."

Jeff recalls: "Ruderman and his friends couldn't believe how successful phone sex became. They were in a big cigar smoking phase, and custom-made suit phase, and they would go downstairs to the restaurant called The Palm and have steak and huge lobsters every weekend. He started getting these enormous checks from the phone company. Carl made a huge blow-up of the first million dollar check.

"They kept promising me all kinds of money and a piece of it and when I really pushed, that was it," remembers Goodman. "His excuse was that my desk was too dirty. He was a neat freak. He came into my office and threw my papers out of my desk and said I couldn't come back to my office. And they hired someone to make sure I couldn't come back.

"You ever see that jig Hitler did when he took over Poland? Ruderman would do that every time a big check came in. They wallowed in money. They had custom made suits. They had tailors up there day and night. They couldn't find enough things to spend the money on.

"I was completely duped by Ruderman. He was nasty. He didn't give me any money. Ruderman was an intelligent though rigid control freak. He has a middle class Jewish mentality. He likes to wear expensive suits and flaunt his wealth. His partner Ira Kirschenbaum lost a son in a boat crash. After that, Ira lost interest in everything and left the business. Ira built up Ruderman's fortune.

"Ruderman was a big womanizer. He was a big control freak. He'd hold all these meetings and nobody could say anything against him. Everybody had to dress like him and keep their desks like neat like his.

"I collect antique watches. I sold him one for $1500. He wore it a couple of days and then left it in his suit pocket on his desk. A couple of days later, he couldnt' find the watch. He went into a psychotic frenzy over the watch. He called me at home and accused me of stealing it. It turned out that an office boy had stolen the watch and tried to pawn it but was caught eventually. But it was another excuse for him to get rid of me. He went crazy over the watch and kept bringing it up constantly.

"Porn was his main business. He ran and picked the photos for all the porn magazines. We had editorial meetings, where, after the editors picked 10-15 of the best slides to be used for the layout, we'd all meet in a conference room and we'd project them on a wall and Ruderman had the final say on the pictures to be used in the magazines."

Drake Publications was Ruderman's entity that published High Society magazine.

"My brother worked there and he went on to run the phone sex operation at Penthouse for five years. I worked with Penthouse on and off. But they're assholes. They're completely impossible to deal with. I would say that Guccione is a nice intelligent guy, and extremely perceptive, but he is surrounded by a Byzantine palace guard that shields things from him and tells him what they want him to hear. I like Bob personally and feel he is a real artist.

"I left porn around 1990 to become a successful direct marketer and copywriter.

"Porn was fun. I was happy to do it. I wanted to meet more girls than I did but I met some. Recently I was dating Madelyn Knight who's a complete whacko."

Luke: "She was a madam."

Jeff: "That's her story. She kept claiming... She borrowed money from me to do this and that but she spent most of it. She's completely out of her mind.

"Before that, I dated a Playboy lingerie model who completely cleaned out my apartment one day, the week before we were supposed to marry. Her name was Isabelle Fortea. She robbed me and disappeared. She was a model and a call girl."

Luke: "Did you know Madelyn Knight was a call girl?"

Jeff: "It wasn't a serious relationship. I'd date her once in a while. We'd go out. She'd always claim to be running this callgirl business."

Luke: "She did."

Jeff: "She did but you could barely call it a business. She would have these girls showing up and she'd introduce them to guys and she'd put a couple of classified ads in the paper. She wasn't doing it in a structured and organized way and she never managed to make money. She was so whacked out. The girls wouldn't show up for their appointments. She wouldn't remember who was supposed to be where. She wanted to feel like a madam, an exotic occupation in her eyes. She was a nice girl, but whacko."

Luke: "Was she on drugs?"

Jeff: "Possibly."

Madelyn Night writes: "Please spell my name correctly and as far as escort or being a madam ,you are climbing the wrong tree and please stop distorting the truth. I do not do drugs at all and do not tolerate it. Thank you."

Jeff: "As for Isabelle Fortea. She also dated Jean Claude Van-Damme while and after she broke up with me. She was in the New York Post about ten times for being his secret girlfriend. She worked for a company called International Escorts.

"Isabelle and I made a settlement through my lawyer and I've agreed to never contact her again. She paid me back a percentage of what she took. It was an absolute sabotage that she did to me. I was completely destroyed for a year over that. She had an expensive engagement ring and she took it back to this diamond dealer to try to sell it back to him. And he immediately called me. 'Do you know that she is here trying to sell the ring?' I was doing a photo shoot with Warren Tang at the time."

Luke: "Have you dated other porn girls?"

Jeff: "On and off. But not so serious. Now I'm only into Japanese women. I'm never going back to American women."

Luke: "What's so special about Japanese women?"

Jeff: "Just their look and their frame of mind. It's nothing to do with the idea that men have that Japanese women are subservient. It's like entering an alternate universe when you go out with them.

"I dated a famous Japanese image girls for a year and a half. An image girl is like an idol. They're also called race queens. They dress in super skimpy outfits and they're photographed by hundreds of thousands completely maniac Japanese guys."

Jeff Goodman writes: DO YOU SINCERELY WANT TO BE RICH? (apologies to Bernie Cornfeld)

My newest idea will make my phone sex idea look like only a prelude thought up by a incompetent fool. I have been speaking to awed venture capitalists about my new project because it is not the type of thing that can be launched "from a kitchen table'.

It will be more revolutionary and and widespread than phone sex ever was, and 95% of the world's population online will have no choice but to immediately avail themselves of this life-changing new concept that will have as much impact as the world-wide-web did in the early 1990's.

All those wishing to become filthy rich in one or two years, and to have enough money to afford all the exotic women they feel are unattainable now, who can help me with serious resources can contact me at jeffg4321@hotmail.com with their offers.

I will require a non-disclosure agreement before discussing details, but I can say this is a web-based, idiot-proof, "peer-to-peer" type technology which will seamlessly attach itself to all web browsers, eventually obsoleting them, and provide a valuable service which will integrate certain benefits of ebay, napster, chat software and email. It does break some new ground technologically but is more or less a remarkable marketing and software concept that combines certain technologies in a manner that has not been conceived of till now.

Jeff Goodman writes Luke: Following your link on my interview, I also read this:

"Phone sex took off in 1983, with Gloria Leonard and High Society magazine leading the way. "We tried to figure out how to make some money off our phone lines. At first we simply used them to announce the contents of our coming issue. Then we wrote sexy scenarios [jerk-off routines] which the centerfolds recorded." On special days, like Christmas or Valentine's Day, Gloria recorded her own masturbatory fantasies."

This is inaccurate. Gloria was blockheaded. She has no conception of phone sex, had nothing to do with inventing it. She did not understand why we were putting phone numbers in the magazine, had no concept of how it could make money, and was one of those opposed to even trying it. It took several months to dawn on her that we were on to something. We never announced the contents of the magazine, only made sexy centerfold tapes at first.

She did, however, have a young daughter who sometimes came up to the office. At the time I thought the daughter was a hottie, but of course she was totally uninterested in me.

I was in my early 20's at at the time. Gloria Leonard had to be at least 40. To my eyes then, she was an "old lady", a "grandmother". I could not understand how anyone would feel she was sexually appealing, no less want to sleep with her. It would be more disgusting than sleeping with my mother. To me, I had no idea why anyone would find her desirable as a publisher or sex object. Even now, I have never slept with a woman past her mid 30's.

Jeff Goodman writes: J-girl means Japanese girl. Race Queens Import Girls

Part of my standard j-girl program is to bring them shopping. If I like them, I spend a few hundred bucks on them. Most of them are totally programmed with the brand name bulls---...they have no conception of the value of money and are brainwashed with the designer labels. When the salesgirls in the name brand shops see an older white guy and a young, wide-eyed j-girl walk in they zero in for the kill.

Anyway, I have to control them. I generally steer them away from dangerously expensive shops and take them to close-out outlets I know in NYC. There is one called Century 21 in NYC, where the j-girls can get designer stuff at bargain prices. Sometimes they whine...they want to buy EXPENSIVE STUFF IN THE EXPENSIVE STORE....feeds their egos, or makes them feel good that Daddy Warbucks will spring for them....but this is not my speed. This new girl went out on her own one day, (I gave her $100 in spending money) and she came back with a f---ing sterling silver ring that she bought in Tiffany's for $300. The thing is really worth $10 or less but she wanted the Tiffany box and bag to show her friends. Of course, she blew my $100 and also $200 of her own money that I refused to reimburse her...oh well, why argue, you can't UNbrainwash them....Madison Avenue has done a wonderful job on an international scale.

But it was while I was taking my New Japanese girlfriend shopping that I saw an almost unspeakable act of torment. The j- girl (named Kaori) forced me to go to SOHO in NYC to look at the CHANEL store. Now friends, this is a horror show beyond imagination. The cheapest thing in the store was a $359 T-SHIRT! and the minute you walk in you are assaulted with well-dressed, merciless stuck up sales sluts who push the goods on you.

Needless to say, I told Kaori we would ONLY LOOK in no uncertain terms. Dresses, hats, bags are priced in the $1000's of dollars and this is only for starters. It was packed with whacked out fashionista/kept women spending like there was no tomorrow. It is a nightmare come true, and a marketer's paradise.

So I am sitting on a bench watching Kaori salivate over garbage whose prices would make Bill Gates blanch.

In walks one of the stunners of the year. Filipina, young, about 5'11", HUGE BREASTS, micro-mini, LONG LEGS, HIGH HEELS, lips so pouty you could cum just thinking about poking your cock in there. Ass-length black hair, delectable tan. A fur jacket. A f----me manner of walking you could die watching. Draped with about $10,000 worth of designer clothes and the price of a Long Island condominium in jewelry.

In tow with Miss High-Maintenance Filipina is a woebegone looking 45-ish nerd, a dead ringer for Casper Milquetoast. Color coordinated, rimless glasses, and nicely dressed in Banana Republic armchair safari style, Fendi sneakers. He looks like one of these dot-com guys who had a bit of luck and made some dough, but still a nerd. His face is a careful mask of ill- controlled panic. He cringes on walking into the CHANEL shop of horrors, but you just know he's going to follow that pussy wherever she leads him.

Miss Filipina starts TAKING PILES OF CLOTHES OFF THE RACK. Hideous OVERPRICED ARMFULS OF CLOTHES, TENS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS WORTH OF OVERPRICED CRAP with the MAGIC CHANEL LABEL.

Mr. Dot-Com is visibly trembling, ready to heave. I genuinely feel sorry for the guy, but not in his life has he ever had a piece of ass like that before, and may NEVER AGAIN. "Do you really need all those clothes?" he croaks...hoarsely...meekly...pain in every syllable.

LOOK STEVEN. YOU TOLD ME YOU WERE GOING TO TAKE CARE OF ME. I NEED THESE CLOTHES. ARE YOU GOING TO BUY THEM FOR ME OR NOT??!!

She spits out those words with barely concealed venom like a a poison rattle snake. Her eyes narrow, her ray-gun glare pierces him like a bullet. He cringes...shrinks back...her look does more damage then a blow with a fist. He finally gets the courage to raise his eyes and looks back at her. They stand frozen in time like a classical tableau-vivant.

I wish I could pull out my digital camera, whose memory card is brimming with steaming images of MY j-girl...with my engorged cock in her mouth. I FEEL for the guy...feel his pain.

He hesitates for a micro-second....you can feel his fevered mind racing....calculating...adding up his years of hard work and scrimping...the TENS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS OF CLOTHES...of which these he knows are only a small drop in the bucket of what he is going to be FORCED TO PAY in the future. But the left brain protests....he sees that ASS, THOSE LIPS....THOSE NOCTURNAL BLOW JOBS AND MIND SHATTERING f---S WALKING OUT THE DOOR IF HE DOES NOT COUGH IT UP!!

There is one more small instant of silence, of dread, of decision... 'OK,' he says. 'It's alright. Buy what you need.' The tension is broken. The salesgirls exchange knowing glances, having witnessed this monumental battle between the sexes before. I hastily gather up Kaori and make for the exit....shivering inside, feeling his agony. There but for the grace of God go I.

Stacy vs Nici

Bait and switch techniques are common in the escort trade where prostitution agencies advertise one girl but can only deliver a less attractive package.

Earlier this week, I published an email from model Patricia Ford who claimed that Stacey of CoverGirlsInternational.com was trying to profit off of her. Patricia said she'd never communicated with Stacey.

Stacey responded with an attack on NicisGirls.com, her competitor. A free for all ensued. Over the past few days, I've received several emails from models and other escort agencies supporting the integrity of Nicisgirls.com. I've yet to receive an email supporting Stacey's operation.

Stacey claims she knows Lynn LeMay but Lynn says she's never spoken with Stacey. Several other porn stars and models, that Stacey claims she can book for escorting, say they've never talked with Stacey and have never worked for her. I've not yet heard from anyone who has worked for her.

Stacey writes:

Alexandra Nice is available through me
Alicia Rio I have known for 8 years
Cheyenne Silver - a very close friend od Madelyns and I've known for years
Kendra Jade - calls me now & then and I work with
Lynn LeMay - available through me
Tina Cheri - I just booked yesterday

Playboy model Carrie Stevens writes Nici: "Stacey knows that me and Patricia [Ford] aren't friends. She sent me an e-mail a few months ago trying to get me to call Patricia and tell her that she was going to be named in all these articles about you and Mark and Sandy. I told her that I have never even met Patricia, and that I would not have any part of this and will not pass messages on to other girls. She sent me one angry reply and then went away. She is using my name to give herself credibility and it is really unfair to me to say the least. I just wanted all this s--- to go away....and that is why I thought it best to mind my own business and just refuse to speak about it. Apparently, it is not working! I don't know what I did to deserve this. Maybe I was a terrorist in a past life. I don't talk to Layla anymore so I have no inention of mentioning her to Stacey but I will write her and request that she stop throwing my name around like we are allies. I just can't believe that I never did work and I get thrown in like the main attraction. I am so pissed!"

Nici@Nicisgirls.com writes: Luke, Please do not ever contact me again. You gave me your word that you would leave me out of the Stacey and Patricia nonsense after I told you that I had no comment. You betrayed me by posting the letter to Stacey that I wrote last month in response to her e-mail as if it was in reply to the Patricia Ford thread. You also posted the e-mail she wrote about Carrie that was all lies. I don't care about all of this. Stacey is a jealous liar and I want to never hear her name again. The same goes for you. By the way, I have attached the picture of the actual page where Gwen Rogers appears on Stacey's website. I had Gwen up on my website last year after she had agreed to take a booking with me and then she changed her mind. I also helped Gwen contact Stacey to be removed from her website. I have forwarded this to Gwen incase she has comment.

This is Elke's page from Stacey's website. She has asked to be removed numerous times. Unlike Stacey who has falsely planted my watermark I have the actual page downloaded from her website. You already know she is a liar, this just proves it.

Last one, Mike [from NYCFantasies.com] already told you the truth about Mason Marconi and I am sure he can arrange for her to call you.

Stacey writes Friday morning: "luke PLEASE REMOVE that page from my matchmaking business site it has NOTHING to do with ESCORTS! you are hurting innocent people now! This isn't fair, everyone knows nicis website is ONLY escorts I have a reputable modeling agency and a matchmaking site I was going to open in November which is what that [age is on your site! That is NOT my private escort site at all! YOU have to tell your public this! The email about Gwen sent to you from Nici has been doctored I never put anything about rates or Gwen working period! Please stop this you are ruining innocent peoples lives now My matchmaking site will debut in November and it is a real honest matchmaking site for the Rich & Famous who wish to meet famous Models NOTHING to do with Escorting at all!"

Stacey from CoverGirlsInternational.com writes: Luke, I am really sick of all this nonsense about Nici, she sent me a dozen emails after you contacted her and I simply told her I would get a restraining warrant if necessary to get her to leave me alone!

I have sent my Lawyer all her threatening letters, emails and taped conversations as it has gotten to the point where I feel she is not just obsessed with trying to ruin my reputation or business....(not that she can...but...) she is "Stalking" me. Now she is downloading all my pics on my site and sending them to girls with horrible lies....I can't imagine she has so much time on her hands to spend her days trying to ruin me! She even sent me copies of the ones she sent to you. This is NUTS!

Everyone knows she is completely obsessed with me and since the week I opened my website she has not left me alone, one threat after another! It's hard to ignore her! I was stupid to make comments in defense of her lies and Public attacks as it just added fuel to the fire for her and thrilled her giving her reasons to come after me even more! She loves this and thrives on the gossip, you should get her to work for you! haha! Seriously she gets so much drama and gossip going on that it's a vicious circle of mass confusion!

Being that she is so young and new to this industry I just figured it was jealousy but it is way out of control and beyond that now. It's just not normal to the point I am actually worried she may really be in need of psychological therapy! I mean when someone constantly screams over the phone and emails you that they wish you would die and hope someone breaks your legs and continuously make horrible remarks like that again and again something is wrong upstairs! Very Scary!

All the agencies and websites that book the same girls as her have been either threatened or harassed by her. Just ask them! I know 5 other Agents as myself that have been harassed in the same manner and then she tells all the girls horrible things in hopes of them not working with us. I just tell the girls if they work for Nici PLEASE never mention working for me and say they don't know me to save all the hardship for them! I really couldn't care less but the poor girls have to listen to it.

It's funny when girls meet me who worked for Nici and heard all the lies she tells them they can't believe it...it's always the same remark, wow you are so nice and have such great Clients, she told me you were a monster! She actually thinks she owns girls and its completely ridiculous. She has made herself such a target with the press over insane remarks about her being the bigger better Heidi Fleiss that I don't even want my name anywhere her's is mentioned it's too dangerous anymore.

You and I both know there is No way I could make a fake watermark on her pictures as she said I did, that is a joke! I sent you the original pics from her Millionaires club as proof that I am not the liar, not to send them to her to start a war again!

Luke that wasn't right. I know your job is to stir up comments for your readers but she is in so much trouble now and has so many problems I do not want any association with her name!

1. I have always told the truth and more than backed it up
2. I have always stood up for the girls and tried to help them
3. I have put myself in the line of fire to try to get the truth out there It just does nothing but cause more obsession and harassment from Nici P-L-E-A-S-E....

How many screen names can I block? Now her email is coming from other people forwarding her emails to me. ENOUGH! I open email with no idea it's her using other screen names and it's way beyond irritating it's insane at this point! This business is built on discretion and I built mine on integrity, discretion and honesty.

This will be the last of my comments so please quit contacting me when she contacts you. People who know me know its just jealousy and for those who don't, I just can't be worried with it and I am tired of trying to defend the truth. It all seems to just get twisted and then makes me look bad for commenting. So no more comments...

Nici@Nicisgirls.com writes: "Luke, You and I have spoken at great length about Stacey. You have seen private e-mails that I asked you not to publish on your website and you did not. I know that after Stacey's latest addition to your website you must realize that she is actually talking about herself in her e-mails. She takes everything she does and turns it around as if I was the one doing it. She got the idea of a stalker and restraining order from the e-mail I sent to you and her. I do not want to share those e-mails, I just want her to go away. I will never understand, journalist or not, how you can in good conscience publish such horrible lies and allow a person as mentally unstable as Stacey's to comment on anything! I wish I had not replied at all but enough is enough. I don't care to have my life made public. So far you have received e-mails from Patricia and one that I forwarded you from Carrie that prove how mentally unstable Stacey is, you have never spoken to a girl or received an e-mail from one who challenged my discretion or sanity. You are more than welcome to ask both Patricia and Carrie about their delaings with me as well as the many girls in the industry who have worked with me. I want to have no part of this."