Thursday, April 19th, 2001

Stop The Presses - Jason Sechrest In GASM's April Issue

Jason Sechrest writes: Hey there, Luke! Just found out an interview with me was published in the April issue of Gay Adult Stars Magazine (GASM). It's got some hot pics Julie Strain took of me to go along with it. Thought I'd pass it all along to you and see if you'd be interested in posting it on your site. If you do, just be sure to link to www.gayadultstars.com and www.juliestrain.com. Hope all is well in your world!

The "BOI" Comes of Age

Born November 26, 1979 in the small town of Columbus, Indiana, Jason Sechrest seemed destined for fame from the moment he stepped out of the womb. At only 16 years old, the self-described "deviant boy" became a staff writer for Femme Fatales, a mainstream magazine known for its racy pictorials and steamy interviews of sirens from both the B-movie and mainstream film worlds. It wasn't long before he turned legal and began broadening his horizons, writing for publications ranging from Entertainment Weekly to Club International. You'd think it was all a teenage boy could ask for, but Jason had a greater vision. Long before his lucrative position as a print journalist, he knew he was born to be an actor.

So at the tender age of 18, only a day after he graduated high school, he packed his bags and headed to Los Angeles with little money and what he describes as "a poor excuse for a place to live." He didn't have to suffer long. The women he'd been profiling via phone for the past two years instantly embraced him. Danni Ashe in particular took him under her wing as a staff writer and eventually a talent coordinator. The writing supported him as he continued to pursue his passion for acting. These days he's a reporter for AVN Live and has his own hit WebTV show "DV8 Boi LIVE", with his first lead in an independent film and mainstream television pilot debuting later this year. We caught up with what some might describe as the luckiest boy on Earth, just following his gig at the 2001 GayVN Awards.

ASM: So how did you coin the name DV8 Boi?
JS: Nikki Fritz! She's a popular web model and actress who has been a dear friend of mine since I moved to L.A.; her company was originally called Reel DV8. I loved the name and asked her if I could use the "DV8" part when I got my first AOL account. She laughed and told me, "If anyone ever deserved to steal it from me, it's you. You are so the DV8 boy." So obviously, DV8 is a play on the word "deviate" and boy spelled with an "i" is just a deviation from its normal spelling!

ASM: You seem to have developed a trend making friends with web models. What was it like working for Danni Ashe?
JS: The best college I could have ever put myself through. The business side of Danni's Hard Drive is surprisingly very corporate America and they truly pride themselves on that. It was also an incredible opportunity for me to hone my writing skills. I was working on model bios, a weekly gossip column, interviews, erotic stories - you name it, really! Plus, I've always had a thing for independent women so I fell for Danni from the moment I met her.

ASM: Were you ever sexually attracted to her and if so, was it difficult being sexually attracted to your boss?
JS: (long pause) You know what, who on Earth couldn't be attracted to Danni Ashe? Independence in a woman really turns me on. It definitely wasn't a difficulty in my working for her though. Lord knows, there were tons of people behind-the-scenes at Danni's Hard Drive who I was secretly attracted to… or sometimes not so secretly.

ASM: So what is your sexual orientation?
JS: Why? What's yours? Are you interested? (laughs) Um, I think part of the reason why there is any sexism and homophobia at all in society is because we so often feel the need to label ourselves and others. Labels are for groceries, not for people. I like to think of myself as open minded in all aspects of my life, including my sexuality.

ASM: What was it like getting to work in the sex industry at such a young age?
JS: Are you kidding? It's been a blast! What better outlet for your raging hormones than to become a part of the sex genre? If anyone's going to be in the porn world for a while, you might as well do it while you're at your peak.

ASM: You don't have sex on film though, correct?
JS: No. Nor do I intend to anytime soon. I don't think anyone can pay my rates.

ASM: Wow, is your penis that big?
JS: Ha! Well, that's not what I was referring to, but since you asked…

ASM: Okay, how big is it?
JS: It depends on who I'm with. (laughs hysterically)

ASM: How about when you're with yourself?
JS: I can get myself off harder than anyone else, so when I'm alone its usually about 8 ½ inches.

ASM: What are your feelings on the Cambria Report?
JS: First of all, I don't think I'm educated enough on it to make any sort of major statement, though I will say, first of all, that the industry has taken it a little too seriously, in my opinion. It's not a set of rules that anyone set in stone, nor do I think those rules will be set in stone anytime soon. I'm glad we're taking note of it and being cautious, but I was on the set of a Wicked shoot the other day and a guy wasn't allowed to pull a girl's hair back when she was giving him a blowjob. Every scene had to be done so that the woman was in control and dominating the man. All of this because of the Cambria Report! I really do hope that G.W. finds something better to do with his time in office than make sex on film his first priority. One really shouldn't be allowed to make restrictions on issues of which they have no knowledge. I doubt he and the cabinet members are real educated on our little sex arena or sex in general for that matter.

ASM: What was it like doing the red carpet reporting for the GayVN Awards last Friday night?
JS: Interesting! I didn't know anyone when I showed up because I've only been in that side of the genre for a small while, but by the time I left I had everyone's phone number. (laughs) The highlight of the evening was simulating sex with Tuck Johnson during his press conference back stage. He was so incredibly nervous, I think he would've let me do just about whatever I wanted. You've got to love a good submissive! Of course, RuPaul was another major moment in my evening.

ASM: Any significant other right now?
JS: Oh there are always lots of others; it's just that none of them are all that significant.

ASM: Any immediate plans for the future?
JS: I have a monthly show on the Larry Flynt Digital operated web site Inches.com. My concept for the show was to take gay porn stars out of the studio and into the real world, interviewing them while shopping at Hustler Hollywood or having breakfast at IHOP. Because of the crazy locations we've been picking, hilarity ensues! I don't know how long the show will remain on Inches though. I own the rights to it and am considering moving it elsewhere at this time.

ASM: Any official web site where we can find you?
JS: Hopefully by the end of the year! I'm working on getting www.jasoncurious.com up and running.

ASM: Jason Curious?
JS: Another one of my own personal terms. A friend of mine made it up a long time ago. Some people are gay, some people are straight, some people are bi-curious, but deep down inside everyone's just a little curious about Jason. Ha! I don't know how true it is, but… it sure sounds good, doesn't it?

ASM: Are you going to abandon your writing career now that you're getting in front of the camera more?
JS: Not at all, in fact I just took on a few new writing projects. I'll be penning Julia Parton's biography with her. It will be called "Saving Jezebel" and it's tentatively set for a mid-2002 release. I've also just signed back onto the staff of Femme Fatales magazine for the first time in over four years. My comeback article will be an October cover story on the new Elvira movie.

ASM: So what about long-term goals?
JS: Well, my passion has always been acting. That's why I moved here in the first place. I've done a lot of lead roles in independent films lately and will be shooting a television pilot co-produced by Rick Dees in the next couple of months. The indie films have pending Blockbuster releases and I hear Dees is already in negotiations with FOX to get the pilot aired this Fall. My long-term goal is to be one of the few people who makes the transition from adult to mainstream, and embraces that past rather than deny it. My whole purpose for wanting to be in the mainstream industry is to make a difference in the world anyway. What better way to start than by opening people's minds about sexuality?

ASM: Any final comments?
JS: Love yourself. And email me! DV8Boi@aol.com.

Flashman Calls

Porn middleman Flashman left me 13 messages. Here are the highlights:

Jeffrey Aikman [who wrote Luke about Flash a few days ago] is a cousin of Dallas Cowboy quarterback Troy Aikman.

Of the 182 girls I booked for different events last year, three of them gave me names which didn't match social security numbers. And the IRS did contact me. Maybe the girls used their stage names. But all the IRS said to me was, they'll give this one more year to change their social security number so it matches. And if they don't, starting in the year 2002, the IRS wants me to withhold taxes on those three girls.

Luke, I've really only lost one account over the past couple of weeks and it really doesn't have anything to do with the column. The lady that books all the porn star beauty pageants around the country hasn't called me... She was upset that the Miami - Los Angeles ticket for Jade Marcella. Jade's luggage got on but Jade didn't. Another girl didn't have her ID in the porn star name she uses. How stupid can a girl be to book her airline ticket in her porn star name and then her real name doesn't match. Then when she gets to LAX, the lady behind the counter says, 'Sorry sugar, this isn't you.'

And then poor Amia More. I book her to go to Florida and the poor girl has a fear of flying and gets to LA Airport and is afraid to get on the airline and starts getting nervous and sick and won't get on the airline.

My Jewish mother is celebrating her 75th birthday in Boca Raton. And we have an eight-and-a-half million dollar trust. There's a big will coming up. And I am the only Jewish son. I do have a sister but she's married. My mother says I better behave myself if I want to remain very strong in the will as I am now. And she says, 'What is all of this porno stuff behavior?' And I said, 'Well, mom, I'm more of a producer, director and agent. I've never gotten naked in a film. I've been in films...' And she says, 'That's ok, but I don't want you making any of these dirty movies.' So I promised her that I wouldn't. It is very important to me, Luke, that my behavior stays very good because I have a chance to be much much wealthier... I would love to go to Cannes and Cancun...

I spoke to my mother and she says she never emailed you anything. Somebody is doing a gag.

A couple of years ago, when I directed my first bondage film, I mentioned it to my mother. And she told me that she had to go throw up. And not to call her again for a few days. She was heart broken. I told her, 'Mother, it's a bondage film. I'm not taking my clothes off. I'm behind the camera.' And she said, 'How can you do this? A nice Jewish boy. You should've been a doctor or a lawyer. What's wrong with you? Couldn't you have gone into the diamond business with your brother in law?

I've learned. So when my mother calls me now and says, 'Are you dating nice Jewish girls?' I don't say, 'Well, I've got this asian girl Mirage that I like. I say, 'Yeah mom.' She says, 'Are you eating good? Are you taking your vitamins? You're not watching pornography, are you?' I go, 'Right mom.'

Amia More called me from the East Coast. She's gotten over her fear of flying.

I've actually had a couple of serious phone calls from studios about using a character like me as a porno agent. It would be a marvelous idea. I'm sure it will happen and I will probably be unlucky enough not to be involved and not to make any money from it.

I received 43 voicemails today about your site. Some webmasters have told me that your site looks average. Some people have told me that your writing is decent. That you're not Shakespeare. I don't know what it is, but everybody in the porn community says they go to Gene Ross and Luke F-rd every day to get the gossip. I must've had a dozen people walk up to me at XRCO and say that they knew all about me from your site.

Center Of The World Premiere Party

Alisha Klass was her bouncy self Tuesday night at the party.

"I'm a bustle of energy whereever I go," says Alisha. "I tease him a lot but nobody messes with [director] Wayne Wang because he's the director and you have a lot of respect for him as an artist. I would pinch his tushy and make him turn red. And he'd be like, 'Alisha!' And I'd say, 'Mr. Wang, I love you.' I pulled the kid out of him."

Wang stood off to the side, a retiring middle aged asian man.

Dr. Joseph Slade Examines Filmmaker Jane Hamilton

Dr Joseph Slade is working on an article about VCA producer - director Jane Hamilton, the former porn star Veronica Hart.

I asked Dr. Slade if he'd read Pat Riley's dismissive comments on Hamilton.

Dr. Slade replies: "Yes, but Riley dismisses her for silly reasons. Her early films are kind of dull, apprentice work, really, but now that she has Ginger Lynn writing some of the scripts, they are getting interesting--especially White Lightning. Hart has no illusions about what she's doing, but she keeps plugging away, trying to create a more feminine (not feminist) porn out of accumulating nuances. I think that's admirable."

A Pregnant Sunset Thomas Working At The Bunny Ranch?

According to a poster on NVBrothels.com: "she having a baby and said she is might work at a brothel with a big belly. if she does work during her fruitfulness that would be so hot."

Ruby replies: Luke, Sunset is not working at the Bunnyranch pregnant. We don't have any girls that are pregnant. Dennis just said I could comp you!!!

Comedy In Porn

Pat Riley writes on RAME: There is one form of comedy in porn that is well done and that's when the performers are not really acting but just being themselves (with a little framework). I speak of things like the White Trash Whore series from JM Productions where Powers (the director) picks the girls, and probably the guys, to correspond in real life to the White Trash image. And a very good job he does too.

In another series (Liquid Gold) he even says to Kat Langer, "You're really white trash, aren't you?" and she actually agrees with him. Her, Allysin Embers, Brigitte Kerkove, Keki Daire, Candi Cotton, Shasta, Candi Kiss, Harley Rain, Allison Kilgore, Nina Whett, Teri Star, Randy Storm,...it's practically a litany of the trashiest women in the business.

And can you go past David Hardman for the sleazy but incompetent drug dealer who joins the Aryan Nation and then recruits jewish Herschel Savage into the group. Or another episode where Herschel admits to killing his white trash whore wife. Or when Hardman's stepdaughter Teri gets out of jail and he takes it upon himself to prevent her from whoring it out with a little bit of incest. Or another episode with Hardman breeding attack dogs to guard his crystal meth lab.

Also the Bootylicious series (Mike Paul won't like this one) with Byron Long running a gang (Devlin Weed and Tony Everready) whose job it is to pick up some money from a bank but they're so incompetent that they keep missing the connection usually because they're screwing a girl. Or a little harder when one of the guys makes it big in the record business and then has his friends cuckolding him behind his back. Not all this series are comedy though. One of the more recent, "Get Whitey" plays to the idea of the black men taking revenge on the whites by screwing their women.

Bluoh writes: On the topic of comedy and sex films, check out some of the "golden oldies" made by Chuck Vincent in the 70s and 80s. He was the Billy Wilder of Blue Movies.

Stacy Valentine's Farewell Tour

TBFan writes on RAME: On Monday, Stacy Valentine appeared on The Bynon Show. A Canadian talk show, hosted by Arlene Bynon. Stacy was very composed, conservatively dressed and looked more beautiful than I had ever seen her look in her porn days. During the nearly hour-long interview Stacy commented on her decision to leave porn, her breast operation, the documentary "The Girl Next Door", her ex-boyfriend Julian and, of course, sex. All in all, she came off as a real sweetie and seemed to be a very intelligent and well spoken young woman. For you guys who missed the interview, well, since I have a few hours to go before the hockey game starts, I decided to transcribe the interview...

Arlene Bynon: Today on our show we have adult film actress Stacy Valentine.
Stacy Valentine: Hello.

Arlene: Let’s get right into it. How many breast enlargments have you had?
Stacy: I've had enough.

Arlene: How many more can you have? Is there a limit?
Stacy: I don’t think there is a limit, I don’t know.

Arlene: So now you’re on the way down. You’re on the curve.
Stacy: I got up to a double E, and now I’m on my way down. Now I’m down to a D, hopefully, down to a B or a C.

Arlene: Why do you want smaller breasts? How does that co-relate with the new Stacy Valentine?
Stacy: Actually, by watching the documentary, “The Girl Next Door” I actually realized that I didn’t need the breasts. I was already pretty and unfortunately I didn’t see that back then, but I see it now, and I see it in a lot of people. How beautiful they are but they’re so critical about themselves.

Arlene: They don’t see it.
Stacy: Right.

Arlene: How does it feel...You were so forthcoming in this documentary. It really looked at your life, everything. It was surprising. We went in the operating room. Were you surprised when you sat down and saw your life put together like that? Stacy: It’s very strange to actually watch it. The only way I can describe it is that you are writing in a journal, but, you are actually watching it instead of reading it and it was very therapeutic to do the documentary because obviously your views change as you get older. You get smarter. Of course, at 20, I thought I knew everything and at 25, I thought, “Oh God” I didn’t know anything, but then at 25 I thought I knew everything. Now at 30, now I know everything. But, no actually, I’ve come to know that I don’t know everything. It was really nice to see how passionate I was about the certain views I had. Now it’s four years later and I have different views. It’s hard to actually pin-point those things but there’s a feeling that I’ve changed. I’ve grown.

Arlene: So you think the documentary actually did that for you?
Stacy: Absolutely.

Arlene: Okay, we’re gonna run a clip from your documentary, “The Girl Next Door”. (Video clip)
Arlene: What do you think about that? Would you agree?
Stacy: Actually, no. Actually, what I was talking about was talent... female talent. The women get paid a lot more than men, in the hetero part. In the gay side, that is a completely different issue. But the men make half as much as the women, if that.

Arlene: You also alluded to the people who should get into it, should get into because they really like sex.
Stacy: Yes, if that’s something that they like and they are an exhibitionist and know what they are getting themselves into. I suggest doing research, alot more research than I did. I was, I was not forced but pushed into it. Fortunately, I was strong enough to survive in this tough business.

Arlene: What about now, though. You were very supportive. You have changed, in the documentary we can see you change. You were wondering. You were very forthcoming in it. You were very honest. How do you view the business now? Is this a sort of farewell tour?
Stacy: Actually, I’ve been outta the business for a year now. The last movie that I did, that is what I am promoting with the AOV stores.
Arlene: And that’s the farewell?
Stacy: Yes, that’s my goodbye.
Arlene: How do you view it now?
Stacy: Now, I view it... (lengthy pause) A little harsh. I was very, I was so innocent. Back in the beginning I was so innocent and so passionate, you know. This is what I want to do and this is great and there is nothing wrong with it and this, that and the other, but now I see that it had a lasting effect.

Arlene: Are you damaged at all?
Stacy: I noticed that I was very lonely watching the documentary. I believe, I think I tried to trick myself into believing I wasn’t lonely and I didn’t need anyone. But watching the documentary I saw that I was just trying to trick myself and I really was very lonely. It’s hard to have a relationship with someone when that’s your job to sleep with other people.

Arlene: It’s almost impossible. Well, we think it’s impossible but at certain times you say it isn’t.
Stacy: Well, you see in the documentary that it’s really not possible. It was not possible for me to have a relationship. I couldn’t have a relationship with someone outside the business because I could never justify to my boyfriend, “Well I’m going to have sex and I’ll see you later. Don’t you do anything, but this is just work.” How can I expect him to be faithful when I can’t be faithful. So that’s not fair so I never tried to date anyone outside the industry while I was still in it. So I started seeing someone who was in the industry and he had more problems than I did with it. It was fine with him to work with all these people, but the one time in the documentary we worked together and it shattered everything.

Arlene: What did that show. I mean when I saw that scene and it was Julian and you’re supposed to do a scene together but you’re doing... you’re with another guy first. But you see that, despite everything that you said and everything that you hear, human beings are human beings.
Stacy: Absolutely! He couldn’t separate it. I couldn’t separate it. There are people in the industry that are together and they can handle it. I don’t know what really goes on but on the surface they seem to not have a problem with it. I just, I can’t do it. There are people who are swingers and I pass no judgement on that but I can’t imagine wanting to see your partner with somebody else. It doesn’t work for me, maybe for other people, but not for me.

Arlene: When did you get honest about it? Was it when you were watching the documentary? Was it seeing yourself? You kind of had to sit on your own and say, I had it wrong.
Stacy: With Julian, with everything deteriorating the way it did. I started realizing that none of this can work and I think this is what I want and I did want someone. I did want someone to care about me and to love me for me and to stop just seeing me as a sex object. Arlene: It’s frightening having you on a documentary saying this other stuff. It must be a little scary figuring out what you did. Stacy: It was a little scary and also a little humbling to actually have to eat my words. Seeing me say it here and be passionate and then turn around a few years later and that’s knowledge and time and being true to myself. Being totally honest and not trying to fool myself.

Arlene: And there’s a freedom to that?
Stacy: Yes.

Arlene: What kind of courage did it take to invite people into an operating room with you?
Stacy: I really, I didn’t give it a second thought, I put all my trust and faith into Christine, the woman who shot the documentary and we developed a really close bond. I bonded with her. I was allowed to bond with her and it was hard for her to keep her distance and not be able to interfere with me and talk to me about things. “I think I should do this, I think I should do that” and it was so hard for her because she couldn’t get involved with her subject. I didn’t find that out until after the documentary was done and we started doing interviews. I listened in on one of her interviews and she said how hard it was to see me making these decisions. We won’t call them mistakes, but decisions that I made. It was hard for her to just sit back and watch that happen.

Arlene: When you were talking there, when we came in there, about the pressure to make unrealistic things about your body. Is there a pressure within the industry or do the girls put that upon themselves?

Stacy: It happens with the reviews that you read. It’s very hard to read in the first caption of the movie you’re in “Well, if you like fat girls, Stacy Valentine is your gal!” Well, I’m just making that up but I’m, there is that pressure from reading things. Fear of reading something negative about yourself, and just gossip. It’s competitive, I mean there is not catfights going on but there is those small jabs. I always had my back to the corner because I was afraid somebody, I was afraid everybody was out to get me.

Arlene: You read your reviews because you ended up getting double E’s.
Stacy: Double E’s, yes.
Arlene: Is that power?
Stacy: It’s pain.

Arlene: There must have been a reason you did it?
Stacy: I was dating someone, it was one of the most ignorant decisions that I have ever made. I was dating someone who liked large breasts and he was paying for them. So I did that and well, you know. See it as a lesson to someone, they are going to be in you and you’re going to have to deal with them. I won’t say, “Don’t do that!” but I will say think about it. That’s why the plastic surgery is in the documentary, not to change someones mind, but if I can effect a decision. Maybe take a second, you know, and think about it and realize how violent it is. It is not a pretty sight, as you saw.

Arlene: You, how do you put that together with what you do in the movies? It is hard to watch operations, I had to fast-forward some of your parts in your breast operation, but how, how come the movies are okay for you but it is hard for you to watch an operation?
Stacy: Well, the operation was just, well, gross. Gosh, I really don’t know how to explain it. By seeing that surgery happen it was like I was looking at myself, not as me but as another person and I was wondering, “Why did she do that?” You take a second thought and then go wait... that’s me. Why did I do that?

Arlene: How do you see yourself having sex in the movies? How do you view that... differently?
Stacy: That, well, I don’t, I mean, I really had a great time. I learned so much about myself and possibly I could have learned in another career, but probably not. I wouldn’t have the knowledge...

Arlene: What did you learn making these movies and having sex?
Stacy: Well, with that I learned. Well, I learned a lot about sex. (They both laugh)

Arlene: Did you learn anything about yourself?
Stacy: I learned there is a lot more to having someone care about you then just the physical. There is so much more behind and to just have sex with someone is just that. If you actually care about someone...
Arlene: It’s different.
Stacy: (continues) and you’re with them. It’s a totally different level. It’s a totally different feeling.

Arlene: Now, you got into it because your husband, your husband at the time, asked you to pose for him. Was it a Hustler shoot?
Stacy: Yes.
Arlene: And you won the contest?
Stacy: Yes, and I was chosen as the girl next door. I had no self-esteem and I thought I was fat and ugly and he kept saying, "send it in, send it in." I thought there is no way, nobody... nobody wants to see me and then, in less than a week, I had a phone call saying you’ve won. We are flying you in to do a photoshoot.

Arlene: How did you feel?
Stacy: At first, I couldn’t believe, I didn’t believe. I thought, are you sure, are they sure it was me... Are you sure it was my picture? Then my self-esteem increased, maybe not for the right reasons, but I always did have low self-esteem but I did feel good and I started feeling better about myself. It started going up and down, just like the stock market.
Arlene: It’s like life.
Stacy: Ya, I go through fazes. I have low self-esteem, then high self esteem, then low self-esteem. It was never ending.

Arlene: Okay, let’s take another look at the documentary. (Video Clip)
Arlene: Has Julian learned something from watching the documentary?
Stacy: I hope so, we don’t speak. I haven’t spoken to him since the documentary. He’s now married to another adult film star and I wish him lots of luck. I hope by watching it he’s not angry with the documentary. He was portrayed not very nice and not too many women liked him after seeing the documentary. But we really did treat him very nicely. We didn’t show any of the...

Arlene: The other stuff.
Stacy: Right.
Arlene: Very well put. What was it like? You get an audition then you get an offer to be in a porn movie. What went through your head? In the documentary you said, "I went in and it was so much fun." Was there no fear at all about having sex in front of a camera?
Stacy: I don’t know how that happened. I think that’s that alter ego that I created. I have always been very shy and very quiet and I believe I was able to create another character that... that... Stacy Valentine has no fear, she doesn’t have headaches, she doesn’t feel bad, she’s not in a bad mood. That’s Stacy Baker, as soon as Stacy Valentine comes out everything is great, there’s no problems and there is no fear. I have terrible stage fright. I failed speech. I could not get up in front of anyone and speak.

Arlene: But yet, you went along with everyone and had very little trouble.
Stacy: And that was Stacy Valentine. That was the character that I was able to create that wasn’t afraid to be on television and speak or stand up in front of 500 people and speak about my documentary and speak about my life.

Arlene: And you put them into two different worlds?
Stacy: Yes.
Arlene: When I saw the documentary did those two people come together. I mean you kept them separate but as I watched the documentary I wondered if the lines got a little blurry for you.
Stacy: In the beginning of my career there really wasn’t a separation between Stacy Baker and Stacy Valentine and that was one thing that Julian helped me realize when we did break up, that she was dominant and she had a career and that was the only thing on her mind and everything else was, including Julian, and I do regret him having to suffer through it, however, it helped me realize, and he helped me realize, that I was not a great girlfriend to him and I’m sorry for that but things happen...

Arlene: They do, they do. We got to take a little break and we’ll be back with former adult film star Stacy Valentine. (Video Clip)
Arlene: There seems like a community in the adult film industry. Is it like a family? A place where they share this family?
Stacy: It is. It is. It’s like a tight-knit family that is very hard for you to, for lack of a better word, penetrate or get into that circle. With what we do and the hours that we work. We see the same people and we see the same crew and it is like a family. A lot of people who are in the adult industry don’t have a lot of contact with their parents for whatever reason. Fortunately, I’m a mommy’s girl. I talk to my mom all the time.

Arlene: She is very supportive.
Stacy: Yes, when I told her she was like, well, I guess I can’t ground you and send you to your room. And I said, “No” then she said, “Are you safe” and I said, “Yes.” Well that is all I wanted for my daughters.Not this way but I love you and I’m your mother.

Arlene: Do you wish she had talked you out of it? Do you wish she had said some of the things that you learned?
Stacy: Honestly, it wouldn’t have done any good and I can say I wish that she had but I know how headstrong that I am, and when I get something in my mind that I’m going to do, I’m going to do it. Then, a lot of the times I turn back around and go “Gosh, she was right!” She is always right. That is the one lesson that I know so well now is that she is always right.

Arlene: You are so proud of this. You are so proud of the documentary. You say I’m so good at this, that and the other. Are you proud of your achievements?
Stacy: Yes, I am. I was able to keep it all together and to keep the professionalism and the awards that I was happy with. Pleased with... I mean they have awards for best anal scene. I can’t see myself putting that on my fireplace mantle and saying “Hey look at this!”

Arlene: But you worked at things like that.
Stacy: Yes, but the best actress, performers, starlet. Those were nice. They were different to me. I viewed it as a different type of.. Bottom line, they are all the same but it felt nice to be recognized for something other than sex.

Arlene: Do you view sex differently now, then you used to? I mean many people put sex and love together. Pornography takes it away. You had some valid arguments in the documentary about doing it and keeping it separate. How do you feel about sex and love now?
Stacy: Now that I have a boyfriend, we’re...

Arlene: Is he in the industry?
Stacy: No! He is in the stock market and yes, I have finally found somebody that has nothing to do with the business. We really don’t talk about it. He doesn’t watch the movies. He doesn’t want to meet any of the... You know, get hooked up with anyone, anything like that. Like something I used to do and we really don’t discuss it anymore.

Arlene: How does he feel that you’re promoting your last movie? Red Vibe Diaries is it?
Stacy: Yes, Red Vibe Diaries 3 and he’s okay with it. He misses me, I’ve been away for two weeks. I started in Toronto and I’ll end in Vancounver in a couple of weeks.

Arlene: Are you interested in going into mainstream movies.
Stacy: No, no, I’m not. I don’t want to cross over into mainstream. I don’t consider myself an actress. I have no training. It makes me nervous. It would make me very nervous to be judged on my performance. It sounds funny, I have no problem being judged on my sexual performance but it’s the confidence. I don’t have a lot of confidence in the acting area. I’m very shy and it makes me nervous to have people staring at me.

Arlene: What do you think of sex now? Is it different? You personally.
Stacy: Let’s see.
Arlene: Do you view it differently?
Stacy: Yes, it took awhile to change my views on sex because it did become, well, that was my job and for four years that was my job.

Arlene: What do you do when you go to work and you don’t feel like it? Like, we go to work even though we don’t feel like it. Stacy: I was very fortunate to be able to choose everyone I worked with. Everyone can’t have great days everyday. Some days I wasn’t as enthusiastic but that was when Stacy Valentine would kick in even more. It was incredible, I always had a great time. Well, except for a couple of times when I would get sick and I had a little bit of problems, but you just have to be strong enough to work through that. It was... I could complain and moan about it for an hour but it still had to take place.

Arlene: Did you enjoy the sex you were having?
Stacy: Yes!
Arlene: You did?
Stacy: Yes!
Arlene: I mean you would be having sex then they would say cut and you would lose all the emotion and all the sound and everything.

Stacy: Some of it, some of it would get mechanical but for the most part I had a great time. I mean it was... is something I’m sure I will look back on and think I did fly by the seat of my pants and I did take those chances and I’m happy with everything that I’ve done. And I got to meet some very nice people and the fans. Especially the tour through Canada. I love Canadians, they are so nice and the men are so attractive. I don’t know if it is the water or what but they are very attractive.
Arlene: I think that’s worth a news story. You’ve seen a lot of them?
Stacy: Yes.

Arlene: What is it about when you look back? I mean you say you’ve changed since the documentary but you still wouldn’t take it away. On one hand you say the operations and why did I do this, but on the other, you’re saying I don’t have any regrets.

Stacy: I think it’s the knowledge and I think the best lessons that you learn are by making mistakes.
Arlene: What was the mistake you made?
Stacy: One mistake that I made was getting into the industry. I really didn’t give it a second thought. This is my way out of my... I had a very unpleasant marriage. That opportunity was there for me and I just thought, “I’m gonna go for it!” I didn’t give it a second thought. I left everything in Oklahoma and moved to California and I didn’t have a place to live. I mean now that I’m older I look back and think back about it, “what was I thinking”. I wasn’t. I didn’t know if I was going to go out there and succeed or if I was gonna get chewed up and spit out in six months and then what do I do. I was very fortunate...

Arlene: To be a success at it.
Stacy: Yes, you either swim or sink and I wasn’t about to sink and the strength realizing that I am a strong woman when I thought I was weak.

Arlene: What part of it made you a strong woman?
Stacy: What... need?
Arlene: How did you know you were a strong woman?
Stacy: I was able to be in this scary situation and not know anyone and have never been out of Oklahoma and to just go for it. I think I didn’t even let failure enter my mind. I had that top of the ladder that I was going to and I never thought I was never going to get there. I don’t know where I picked that up along the way.

Arlene: We have to go for a break, but do you think you’ve applied that to something else?
Stacy: Now, yes. I’m going back to school for psychology and I would like to find out why people do the things they do and I think I would make a good case study.

Arlene: I do too, we’ll be back with your view of pornography. (Video Clip)
Arlene: You feel a little different about that part now? Do you need people.
Stacy: Yes.
Arlene: Yes.
Stacy: Yes, you do need people in your life. I realized I can’t do it all on my own. You do need people in your life.

Arlene: How do you view pornography? I mean when you were in the movies people must have looked at you in a different way. How do you view it? How did you view it then and how do you view it now?
Stacy: I think if you are over the age of eighteen and you would like to be stimulated by it, I’m all for it. I think people should be able to watch whatever they want to watch. It’s legal and we’re not promoting rape, violence, drug use. You won’t find any of that in adult movies. I mean we’re having sex. Everybody’s having sex. Everybody does it and I don’t have a problem with it. Now, I’m having sex with somebody that I love and I couldn’t imagine now having sex with somebody I don’t care about.

Arlene: Do you watch your movies now?
Stacy: No, I don’t.
Arlene: Why not?
Stacy: Because I know what it's like behind the scenes and I know the people. If I were to watch an adult movie, I would watch the older ones where I don’t know the people. Because I know the people. I’ve hung out with them and it just doesn’t seem right to be stimulated by them.

Arlene: Was it erotic on the set.
Stacy: To a degree, we’re still there because it’s our job and we’re getting paid but if you are at a level and you choose the people who are attractive, I mean I was at a level where I choose people whom I was very attracted to. That made it very easy, and being in these really nice locations in Beverly Hills and Malibu, it’s like Cinderella and I’m playing dress up. I’m like a Barbie Doll.

Arlene: How much money did you make doing movies?
Stacy: I made quite a bit. Five digits per movie. I was very fortunate. I was 25, so I had already lived my life with not having a lot of money and I saw the value in that. You see these 18 year-olds who get easy money and they get that money and they just keep blowing it and blowing it and when they get out of the industry they don’t have any money, they don’t have anything to show for the time they put in and that’s an irreversible thing, it’s like having a child, it’s an irreversible thing that they are going to have to life with. It’s there for the rest of your life. It’s on video.

Arlene; How do you feel about that?
Stacy: I’m comfortable with that.

Arlene: What if you have children?
Stacy: I won’t show them it and say, “hey look at this,” but if after they’re 18 and if, for some odd reason, I know I wouldn’t want to see my mother having sex, but if they want to... they want to. Go ahead, I mean I’m not going to lie to anyone about anything because I’m not ashamed of anything I’ve done. When people try to camouflage or hide what they’ve done I think there’s a problem with them. I’m not ashamed of it and just try to keep it as a positive thing.

Arlene: You said in the documentary that there is a shallowness and a hollowness to it all. And other times when I’ve interviewed other people from your industry that have left with a similar sense. Some of them say yes and some of them say no. Where do you fit in?
Stacy: It’s a little shallow... it’s a little shallow. It’s going all on looks and sex and so I do think it can be a little shallow.

Arlene: But more rewarding then people think?
Stacy: I think so. I keep going for the things that I learned...
Arlene: About sex?
Stacy: Yes, yes. I learned some... some... well, I won’t go into detail about that but...

Arlene; ...Cause it’s a family show.
Stacy: Yes. (They laugh)
Arlene: You did. You learned some stuff. So what do you want to do now?
Stacy: Go back to school. My brain is like a sponge. I’m craving knowledge. With the internet I can do so much research. I can learn so much stuff and I want to get that degree. I’m not sure what I’m going to do with that degree but I just want that accomplishment, that goal. That’s the next goal that I’ve set for myself and before I never really thought I was smart enough to do it, I didn’t know but if I can succeed in the pornography business, I can do anything and I’ve proven to myself that if I’m strong enough and want something bad enough that I can get it.

Arlene: Then you have a separate goal.
Stacy: Yes.
Arlene: Now your Red Vibe Diaries 3, that is coming out. I mean what is it like to do this tour and to come onto this show and talk about... Is it hard to talk about this documentary and people who know about your life. You were like a reality television show.
Stacy: Actually, I loved the Red Vibe series there’s the 1, 2 and 3. They were shot on film and they were very high budget and AOV have carried 1 and 2 exclusively...

Arlene: Have they sold a lot?
Stacy: Yes, they have.
Arlene: They are your most popular movies?
Stacy: Yes, and they are very nice movies for couples. They’re geared more for couples. They’re not something you would watch alone. It’s not real graphic and it’s got a storyline through it so it’s not quite as shocking but if a woman were going to watch her first adult movie, I would suggest one of the Red Vibe series because it’s pretty and it’s not that, “It’s right there in my face!”
Arlene: It’s made especially for couples.

Luke Gets Mail

Seymore Butts writes about his ex-girlfriend Alisha Klass: luke, i just wonder what took so long for the exec's at playboy to realize what many knew long ago? the post brought other questions to mind...

1- does this mean the 3 bodyguards watching alisha's every move at hedonism were really there because execs were worried about her "antics" or were they acting as eyes and ears for bruce?

2- does the fact that bruce is good friends with a playboy exec complicate things?

3- does she expect anyone to believe that she turned down $100,000 from the globe? first, intimate details of their relationship and now..."bruce willis lover's hot sex secrets" with direct quotes and some "get a tight pussy" product promo to boot! is it just me, or does something smell lishy here, luke?

4- does she respond to this with more wild accusations or keep to her promise and ignore it?

while not wondering about the answers to those and other questions, i will be plenty busy producing original "seymore butts" videos and dvd's, editing gape! the a zine and tushy girl magazine(including the infamous "squatamole" layout), pleading "NOT GUILTY" to obscenity charges, listening to alisha squirm around the "jackie martling" story and keeping our teamtushy.com site running smoothly. i'll leave my e-mail address, seymore@earthlink.net, just in case those playboy execs also realize the perfect replacement has been right under their "butts" this whole time!

Fred writes: Regarding Lynne's comment, I do think that spending $2.5K on tattoos is frivolous (and generally unaesthetic). I also think spending $2.5K on a fur coat is frivolous (and also often unaesthetic).

Regarding the allegation that Rum spent $2.5K on hookers, and ignoring for a moment Rum's point that the expenditure on hookers was substantially less, query, Lynne: what is it about the expenditure you consider frivolous? The HIV risk? Or the expenditure itself, independent of the HIV risk?

Just for the heck of it, I'll step up to the plate and argue that Rum's expenditure is not frivolous. Human beings are blessed with/plagued with instincts. There is a substantial collection of instincts pertaining to mating. One or more of these instincts cause people to:

a) have sex;
b) marry;
c) procreate, have kids, raise kids;
d) watch porn;
e) hire prostitutes;
f) primp and try to make one's self attractive;
g) obtain enjoyment from romance novels or romance movies;
h) lust;
i) go out on dates (including picking up the tab on overpriced meals);
k) masturbate;
l) cheat on each other/have affairs, and a thousand other activities that I won't bother tabulating.

All of these activities are byproducts of the above-mentioned collection of instincts. These instincts are intensely powerful. They cause people to spend tens of thousands of dollars, perhaps hundreds of thousands of dollars on raising kids. They cause people to spend thousands of dollars trying to make one's self look attractive in all sorts of wierd ways--plastic surgery, expensive clothes, etc. They cause people to get involved in relationships where the community property laws can cause the relationship to wind up being super-expensive. Nonetheless, humans are driven to pursue satisfaction of these instincts with great effort and expense.

Rum's alleged expenditure of $2.5K, even if true, would pale in comparison to what some spend in pursuit of satisfying human instinct. In fact, compared to what some people spend, it's a bargain.

Is pursuing sex "frivolous?" (This allegation, coming from an ex-porn star, strikes me as ironic--sort of like biting the hand that used to feed her, as it were.) It's no more frivolous than the money I've wasted taking my ex-girlfriend to good restaurants, sending flowers, etc. Well, there. I don't know how much of the foregoing I actually agree with, but I did succeed in satisfying and gratifying my lawyerly arguing instinct. Now, I'll just wipe myself off, there, and get back to watching television.

Alan writes about Alec Guiness: I find it funny that reports of Obewon being bi-sexual is being greeted with such awe---Go down a list of all his peers and friends and it is a list of homosexuals. The only question is why did these people come out and say this wehn he was alive--becuase it is easier to rake mud over someone that is ten feet under then it is to do to someone who has hungary lawyers to feed. So what if he was bi! Deal with it. Laurence Olivier, John Gielgud, Denholm Elliot, Ian McKellen, and anyone that has the name Redgrave--what do all these 'men' have in commen--each other's company. I may be repuled by men having sex with each other, but my rule is simple--as long as they keep it away from me and don't throw it in my face and break any social law(ie pediphile laws) to each their own and why do we care if they don't like chicks--just emans more for the rest of us---Enless their names KD Lang--then we screwed!

Pornography - A Reference Guide

Luke's favorite living porn academic, Dr. Joseph Slade, has released a three volume work on "Pornography and Sexual Representation." Each volume costs $110 on Amazon.com.

Dr. Jay Gertzman reviews the new book "Pornography in America: A Reference Handbook" by Dr. Joseph Slade which sells for only $45: "The book should be used in many college courses; it covers almost every aspect of the subject imaginable and is, I think, a better source for learning the field than even de Grazia's _Girls Lean Back Everywhere_ or Green's _Encyclopedia of Censorship_. The sections on court decisions, legislation, genres, social context and theory, history, and distributors are very strong. There is no other book where one can find so much so coherently organized and lucidly treated."

According to the publisher: Above all else, Pornography and Sexual Representation: A Reference Guide Online is an examination of the First Amendment in America from the cultural perspective of pornography. Joseph Slade uses the development and study of pornography to illuminate the considerable social, legal and cultural issues of privacy and free speech in the United States.

The Preface explains: This Reference Guide is structured around two premises. The first is that regardless of how one may feel about pornography, sexual expression, and representation, it has profoundly enriched American culture. Rather than try to "prove" this assertion, I allow the sources cited to speak for themselves. …

The second premise is that pornography and what we say about pornography constitute our principal ways of speaking about sex, one reason that many researchers prefer the neutral term sexual materials to the more charged word pornography.

Thoughts On The FTC vs Voice Media

XXX says: Three people made complaints to DMR, Voice Media's main credit card processor prior to May of 1999 when DMR, VM's sole credit card processor, disintegrated.

I find it amazing how the FTC is grandstanding on this. After a two year investigation on Voice Media, they didn't file a lawsuit. They just made an administrative decree and reached an agreement with VM's principals. The FTC filed lawsuits against RJB Telcom, Verity, Seth Warshavsky's IEG, etc...

What happened was - back in those days, DMR would bill people who signed up for the free trial, and when VM processed cancellations, DMR would credit them back. And this was unknown to VM because VM never saw any of the credit card details from DMR.

The FTC board voted 5-0 to accept the settlement. There's no redress and VM does not need to post any bond.

Zoe Update

Zoe writes: Well, I know everyone hasn't heard from me in quite awhile. So here is an update of what has been going on with me. I have been in the adult industry for 3 years and had been dancing for 10 years. I knew I couldn't do either forever and I knew I wasn't happy. We all know all the bulls--- surrounding the industry, so I won't get into details about that. I have quit the industry and moved back East. I have made changes in my life and I am continuing on and up. I will be feature dancing once a month for the rest of this year and that is it. Now what I will be up to besides that is building my new website, which should be up in another month or two. I have been having major issues with my current website. The new website will have the same domain and will be totally run by me. I am tired of all these webmasters (and you know who I mean) ripping off talent and thinking they can walk all over everyone and that the talent won't do a thing about it. Everyone needs to start standing up for him or herself and take action. Here are the problems I am having: my current site has been pulled as of 04/19/01. I am sure that site will be up under a different domain name, so I will warn you that the only true site will be xxxzoe.com and that is it. I do not have anything to do with any other sites and that includes clubzoe.com. My old Webmaster xxxezone.com has breached contract, failed to pay me, and is involved in copyright infringement. I have spoken to CCBill several times. If you are currently a member of xxxzoe.com, I advise you to charge back (because even thou I pulled the site they can not do a mass cancellation so you must do it yourself). I will be doing a special promotion. The promotion is when xxxzoe.com is up again, those members who can show proof of cancellation and rejoining of the new xxxzoe.com will be sent a free movie.

Alexa On Luke F-rd Live

We had ex-Wicked girl Alexa, 21 years of age, on about 70 minutes into the show, right after Lynne's call.

Alexa: "I was online when Meni instant messengered me and said... I've got six IMs open and I am trying to finish all my emails and record this thing on the TV."

Luke: "What have you been doing?"

Alexa: "Dancing and a lot of mainstream work that I am not going to mention but you'll be hearing about it soon. I've just booked an independent film that will go to Sundance [independent film festival]."

Jim: "You're a real actress."

Alexa: "I've been acting since I was seven."

Jim: "Then what were you doing in this business?"

Alexa: "I have no idea.

"No, I am not going to say that. I have a lot of respect for the industry. But the business side of it is not me. I can't justify having sex on film anymore."

Jim: "Were you having moral issues with it?"

Alexa: "Yes I did. When I first got into it, I was so young and naive. I'm not saying that I am not young and naive now. All I saw were dollar signs and fame.

"As I think about it now, I don't really care about fame. All I want is to be happy. If fame makes me happy, I guess I'll learn that when I get fame. But my main goal is to mend my relationship with my parents which I completely messed up."

Jim: "It's tough on parents when your daughter does that."

Alexa: "It's very hard on them and I feel bad... I was a daddy's girl. I was always distant from my mom. It really hit home for my dad. Because I had the world in the palm of my hand. I had full scholarships to three different colleges. I went to a Catholic school and I graduated in the top three percent of my class. I had the second highest SAT score in my class - 1460.

"So no one understood why this happened. I don't want to blame it all on my ex-boyfriend because I do have a say-so in what happens in my life."

Jim: "Was he a musician?"

Alexa: "No. He was just someone who put a $12,000 engagement ring on my finger and all I saw was that ring. It basically made me stupid. I was a stupid chick. I've definitely learned lessons the hard way."

Jim: "So you were exploited by this guy?"

Alexa: "I wouldn't say that because he didn't really approve of what I did either. But he thought it was cool. When we first started dating, I was very conservative. I had no tattoos. No piercings whatever."

Jim: "How old were you when you first had sex?"

Alexa: "I was twelve."

Jim: "That's pretty conservative."

Alexa: "When I met him, I had just graduated from Catholic high school. I'd been in Catholic school my whole life.

"And he introduced me to the world of drugs and drinking. And I wanted to keep that ring on my finger and I did whatever I had to do to do that. I did do heavy drugs. Luckily I got out of that. Now I don't even smoke or drink or do anything now.

"He basically corrupted me. My dad blames him for it. I blame him partially for it. I blame myself too."

Luke: "When did you kick the hard drugs?"

Alexa: "About two years ago. Because I was literally about to die. I did Ecstacy and Coke. It got to the point where it took me ten Ecstasy pills to feel it. And I woke up one morning and I could barely walk. I weighed 93 pounds. I'm 5'5". I was completely sick.

"And I finally said, 'I can't do this anymore. I need control of my life.' I kicked the drugs at age 19. I kicked drinking at age 20."

Luke: "Many people are surprised that you lasted as long in porn as you did."

Jim: "How come you didn't become a Sin City girl?"

Alexa: "I didn't want to."

Jim: "I don't blame you. It always works out well for them."

Alexa: "Don't get me wrong. I love Michael Raven. But those girls get lost in the shuffle. They're not promoted at all. And if you're going to be a contract girl, at least be with a company that will promote you."

Jim: "How big are those things on your chest?"

Alexa: "They're 32D. And I am going in for surgery in July to have them reduced because I don't want so porno looking. For my little body, they're huge. I'm 5'5' and 120 pounds."

Luke: "How have your friends in the industry reacted to your decision?"

Alexa: "This is what I figured out. I don't have friends in the industry. I separated from the industry as much as possible because I didn't want to get sucked into the whole porno life. Going to the porno parties and having orgies and there's nothing else other than porno.

"From the day I got in, I knew I wouldn't be in adult very long. I lied in 99% of my interviews when I said that this is all I've ever wanted to do, because that is what the fans want to hear you say. They don't want to hear you say, 'Oh, I am only in this for a short period of time.'

"I knew when I got in that I was going to use the industry as much as I possibly could to do whatever it is I thought I could do, then get myself out of there to make something of myself, whether it be a housewife in Georgia or something other than someone who has sex on camera all the time.

"I knew from day one that I was never going to be the next Jenna. I just said that because it sounded like a good promotion."

Jim: "Are you going to get the tattoo removed?"

Alexa: "I start my first treatment in August."

Jim: "What did you do before porn?"

Alexa: "I trained equestrian horses."

Jim: "How did you manage to have sex when you were 12?"

Alexa: "It was my 19-year old babysitter and it just kinda happened. My family is religious and this was a neighbor... In the little circle where we lived, we all went to Sunday School together. We went to Mass together and church together. He was an altar boy. When you came in to church, he greeted you and handed you Bibles. His parents were friends with my parents and we lived next door to each other."

Jim: "How do you feel about guys jerking off to you?"

Alexa: "Once you enter the industry, you become hardened to anything a guy could say to you. I've been in the malls and guys have said, 'Oh my God, I jerk off to you every night.' And it's like someone coming up and saying, 'Oh, I like your shirt.' You form a shield."

Jim: "Hey, it's flattery."

Alexa: "I guess."

Jim: "So what did this 19-year old guy say, 'Time to get your pajamas on'?"

Alexa: "It started off as kissing and petting and simple things like that. And one thing led to another. It was a slow progression. It was for at least a three hour period while my parents were gone. The sex only lasted about five minutes.

"I was in too much pain. I couldn't sit down. I was crying. I was bleeding. I couldn't tell my parents. I was mortified.

"Then I had sex again about five years later."

Jim: "How do you feel about your fans?"

Alexa: "I feel weird over the fact that I have fans. Because I don't really think I am anybody. I'm just a girl from Atlanta who's just trying to have fun. I'm appreciative of them because they've given me enough of a name to go out on the road and pack clubs."

Jim: "The whole fan thing is based on them watching you have sex."

Alexa: "It is what it is. It is fans watching porno. It's not fans because they love my acting. It's fan of sex."

Jim: "Do you have a web site?"

Alexa: "No. I am actually working with Steve [Orenstein] at Wicked about that. Honestly, I don't know if I want a web site right now."

Jim: "Doesn't that propagate your porn career?"

Alexa: "I didn't say I was completely leaving porno. I said I was completely leaving doing movies. I'm not jumping out of porn to become a mainstream actress. I'm leaving porno because I can not justify having sex on film. So I am continuing to dance. I don't want to turn my back on an industry that has been good to me."

Jim: "Steve Orenstein is a good guy."

Alexa: "Steve Orenstein is probably the best guy in the industry. He treats me with respect. He's professional and he believes that business comes before anything else. Sometimes he puts his foot down and says, 'This is how things have to be.' What bothers me is that some owners of companies believe that a girl's talent is proved by her getting on her hands and knees and sucking the person's dick. I didn't want to do that."

Luke: "Can you watch your movies?"

Alexa: "No, I cannot."

Jim: "Were there any guys you liked working with?"

Alexa: "Only one - Brad Armstrong. Only because we had something going off camera. Some guys walk on a set and see me as a piece of ass. They treat you like a whore. They start rubbing on you...and that's not how it works."

Jim: "Did you get along with the other Wicked girls?"

Alexa: "The competition was so high that I would have to leave. Because I don't see the point in porno. Why are you competing to be the best piece of ass?"

Luke: "How did you get along with the other people at Wicked?"

Alexa: "I tolerated them. Serenity is probably one of the best business women, when it comes to selling product. Sydney Steele is the same way. I love her to death. She's not all strung out. I think Devinn [Lane] is a beautiful girl but we did not get along. She's too motherly and I'm too young. We just always clashed. She's who I had the biggest problem. I heard some things that she said behind my back and I didn't appreciate it. I didn't see much of Temptress and before I knew it, she was gone."

Jim: "Is she out of the business?"

Alexa: "I have no idea. I don't keep up with the industry gossip. The only reason I know that stuff is going on about me in the industry is that people email me every article written about me. I laugh at it."

Luke: "I always saw you hanging around with Jessica Drake."

Alexa: "I love her. She is such a sweetheart. She's also one of these women who's been changed by the industry. When they get in, they're always nice and sweet and cool. Once they sign that contract, their head goes to there. You can't really talk to them."

Luke: "You guys were always joined at the hip."

Alexa: "We were best friends."

Jessica Drake says that she and Alexa were best friends until Alexa signed with Wicked and then she never heard from her again.

Jim: "Alexa, did you ever get off in front of the camera?"

Alexa: "Twice. I did it [porn] because I loved the camera, not to get laid."

Jim: "It's easy to convince yourself that you are in a real movie."

Alexa: "No."

Jim: "Not even when you're doing one of those big Wicked movies with fire engines and pirate ships and all that."

Alexa: "When it boils down to it, it's a porno.

"I've been on two mainstream sets and let me tell you, 'It's heaven. It's so nice.' You don't have to worry about people groping you and things like that. I hope that everyone in adult gets to spend at least one day on a mainstream set because it will change how you feel about adult. And that might've changed my whole opinion on it because I have a lot of mainstream friends and I just sat on their sets while real movies were being filmed and I realized this is where I want to be.

"I want to meet my fans. But I don't want to be put on a pedastal for having sex on film. That's not the thing you worship someone over."

Luke: "Was there any single event that led you to make that announcement that you'd no longer make adult films?"

Alexa: "I think it was a mixture of hearing my mother ball her eyes out every single night, my grandparents going, 'What happened to you?' My friends back in Atlanta going, 'You could've had everything.' Me going home and reading my college acceptance forms and saying, 'What the hell am I doing with my life?' And my asking myself, 'Where do I want to be in five years and how do I want to get there?' Porn was not in my path. Porn was an obstruction.

"As far as inside the industry, while I was on Spring Break in Panama City, Florida, about six guys came up to me and said, 'I jerk off to you three times a day.' I don't want to know that. It took one guy to sit me down and he goes, 'I don't want to know anything about porn. I don't want to know about your boobies.' I want to know about you. I can see that when you're in those movies, in those eyes, you'd rather be somewhere else. He's not the first person who's told me that. He's like the tenth.

"When I worked on set with my makeup artist Red Velvet who's currently doing my make-up for mainstream, she'd say, 'You don't need to be here. You don't belong in porn.' Eversince then, I've kept my ears open to other possibilities."

Luke: "What kind of experience is it for you dancing in clubs?"

Alexa: "I like dancing in clubs."

Jim: "Do you sell your movies in the clubs?"

Alexa: "Yes. I don't have to sex on film to sell my movies. All I have to do is set them out on the table."

Jim: "You don't have a problem profiting from making those movies?"

Alexa: "As I said, I am going to use the industry as much as I possibly can."

Jim: "That sounds hypocritical to me."

Luke: "It sounds fine to me."

Jim: "That's because you're a whore, Luke."

Alexa: "If a company fires a girl, are they going to stop using her content? No. Just because they don't like the girl doesn't mean they don't want to profit off of her. Come on, that's ridiculous. That's money in my pocket."

Luke: "Alexa, how did your parents react to your news?"

Alexa: "They are very happy."

Jim: "Luke hates porno."

Alexa: "Most people do."

Jim: "I don't understand why."

Luke: "There's so much to hate. It's so inherently sleazy and degrading."

Alexa: "Yeah. There's a lot to hate about the industry. There's a lot to hate. And I am very resentful towards most people in the industry. That's why I am saying that I am using the industry. I am using it to make money. I don't really care about anyone in the industry because they don't really care about me. So why should I waste my breath? That's why I didn't do a single interview with anyone [when Alexa retired]. All I did was make a statement. I don't want to give anyone the time of day because they didn't give me the time of day. When I wasn't of use to them, it was like, 'We don't need to be friends with her.'"

Luke: "You go girl."

Jim: "Alexa, would you date Luke?"

Alexa: "I don't know Luke."

Jim: "You've seen pictures of him, right?"

Alexa: "No."

Jim: "He's a very good looking guy. I think you guys would make a lovely couple."

Luke: "Well, we both have the same view of the porn industry."

Jim: "And even though you have that view, you both make money off of it."

Alexa: "I'm moving back to my family in Atlanta."

Jim: "You guys could have l-keford/Alexa.com and you could hate and profit from porn.

"Let me ask you a question, Alexa. Luke has a problem performing oral sex on a woman. Is that going to be a problem for you?"

Alexa: "Sex is not the most important thing in a relationship."

Jim: "Whatever importance it holds, Luke's unwillingness to perform cunnilingus on you, is that going to have a negative effect on your sexual relationship?"

Alexa: "No."

Jim: "But he likes you doing it to him."

Luke: "Jimmy, please. Let's have some dignity."

Jim: "She came into porn, she must do that pretty good."

We say goodbye to Alexa.

Jim: "How can you blast this business and still profit by it? You still take off all your clothes in a club. You still have all these guys dreaming about you and watching you and you sell the very movies that you claim were such a negative thing in your life. And you still make money on it. 'Here ma, here's $200 for you. I know you were crying but I sold some of my movies today at the club when I took my clothes off and strutted around the stage.'

"Come on, you either say, 'forget about this' and don't do it."

Luke: "It's called give me porn money but don't give me porn dick."

Charlie Tells AVNGossip.com - That's Not Me

From AVNGossip.com: Charlie called, very upset about reports about pictures of her in congress with a dog on the Internet. "How the hell could they do something like that? I want to go after them, because I know there isn't a real print, a hard copy of a picture like that. It's definitely computer-generated. I know for a fact that there's no picture of me with a dog. I don't even do guys. C'mon. I'm gonna do a dog?" she laughed. "I'm calling a lawyer." [Technically, she does do scenes with her husband.]

Bryan writes: Luke--The pictures Charlie is refering to can viewed at originalbeastiality.com. Real good fakes, wouldn't ya say? Come on Charlie tell the real truth.

Quasarman Sings, Nick Tukhman On Luke F-rd Live

Listen to Tuesday night's show. Read the chat here.

Our first guest was internet pornographer Nick Tukhman of LikeWhoa.com hosting.

James DiGiorgio: "Nick, are you a Jew?"

Nick: "Oh no, no, no.

"Sexhound own a counter [and the website Motherf---ers.com.ru]. Sean Boday, now with Flying Crocodile, used to work for Sexhound. And Sexhound claims that Sean stole their counter code. Which is bulls--- because the Flying Crocodile counter is nothing like Sexhound's.

"I am 18 years old... I started when I was 15. I put up some link sites, similar to Persian Kitty."

Jimmy: "Did you know that you were breaking the law?"

Nick: "Definitely."

Jim: "How do your parents feel about what you do?"

Nick: "My father supported me. When I wanted to go bigger, he lent me some money. I paid him off."

Jim: "My dad wouldn't put a dime into my porn career."

Nick: "I came from one of the republics of Russia to America in 1994."

Jim: "You eat beet soup?"

Nick: "Sometimes."

Luke: "How come there are so many Russians in the internet porn game?"

Nick: "It's a good way to make money. And Russians don't care how they make money."

Luke: "Are you part of the Russian Mafia?"

Nick: "I don't think there's such a thing. No Russian Porn Mafia. There is a Russian Mafia. They're big in Brooklyn [where Nick lives]."

Luke: "Have they ever tried to muscle into your business?"

Nick: "No, they generally would attack businesses that involve a lot of cash, such as car washes, restaurants and nightclubs."

Luke: "How many employees do you have?"

Nick: "Fourteen."

Jim: "What's your net worth?"

Nick: "Seven figures."

Luke: "Let's talk about the crazy email I got alleging crazy things about you."

Nick: "I had three employees who decided to form a company while they worked for me. Everyone who works for me signs a non-compete and a non-disclosure agreement. They started leaving. The last two got fired. When I found out that they were competing with me, I sued them for violating the non-compete and the non-disclosure... Now they're trying to defame me any way they can. The email you got contains only one percent fact - my actual car."

Luke: "So you don't try to pick up male prostitutes?"

Nick: "No, no male prostitutes and no crack either. Seriously, driving a Mercedes, why would you even be smoking crack? Wouldn't you be sniffing cocaine?"

Jim: "Nick, how would you like to own your own pornographer? How cool would that be? You're 18 years old and you own your own pornographer. Give me some thought because if the price is right, I could be for sale."

Luke: "Nick, I wouldn't do it. Jimmy only shoots ugly chicks."

Jim: "Hey, there's a market for everything."

Luke: "Nick, are your parents proud of you?"

Nick: "They're proud of the entrepreneur part."

Jim: "Buy them a house and they will be proud."

Nick: "I already did.

"They're not going to say, 'My son owns an adult company.' They're going to say, 'My son owns a hosting company.' They're proud of me but they're not proud of me to express it to everybody they know."

Jim: "My mom introduces me to people as, 'This is my son, the filmmaker.' Luke's parents introduce him as, 'This is my son the mental retard.'"

Luke: "Nick, what role did your parents play in your start-up?"

Nick: "I sat down with my father and I showed him what I wanted to do. I wanted to start something big. I didn't want to sit in my house in front of a computer all day. I needed start-up money and my father chipped in...and everything is fine."

Luke: "What sort of father lets his son enter the world of pornography?"

Nick: "It's not the world of pornography. I wouldn't put it like this. A world of pornography would be if I were a director. Internet pornography is more internet."

Jim: "You guys stand a few feet away from it. You don't get your hands dirty. You don't have to worry about some guy accidentally splooging on your shoe."

Nick says he's never been on the set of a porn movie in his life and that he's never dated a porn girl.

About an hour into the show, we called Mike McCormick from QuasarmanRants.com. Mike attended the Royal Conservatory for music during high school. At least until he turned 16 and dyed his hair black.

Mike: "Have you had Jeremy Steele on your show?"

Luke: "Not today. He had to work at Babenet."

Jim: "What's he doing at Babenet?"

Luke: "He's jerking off."

Jim: "For gay guys? Ohh...."

Luke: "Please Jimmy, this show is about tolerance if it is about nothing. What is wrong with getting naked in public and pulling your pud for the enlightenment of homosexuals?"

Jim: "You're supposed to do that in private."

Mike: "I disagree."

Jim: "You go around in public pulling your pud?"

Mike: "Not anymore. It would be a violation of my parole. Man has a right to express himself in any way he sees fit.

"When you hear talent like Jeremy Steele, it warms your soul and causes you to pick up the torch and go forth with your own dreams. So I sat down and penned a couple of ditties in honor of Jeremy Steele.

"The first song I would like to sing is to the tune of Elton Johns "Candle in the Wind." Unlike Jeremy Steele, I don't have repetoire of 1500 songs that I've written. So I had to steal someone else's song and come up with my own lyrics. I've entitled this "Psycho With A Grudge."

Hello Jeremy
Have you had your Prozac today?
Have you written to Luke F-rd
To dispell rumors that you are gay

Mike: "Now I have to stop because there is someone at my door."

Jim: "Oh, I thought that was your dog harmonizing with you. To hear the rest of the song, you're going to have to call me back in five minutes."

We hang up on Jeremy and talk amongst ourselves for five minutes. I get this email from Mike: "I'm in the process of selling my home. My agent is here and will be for 20 minutes. I hope you'll let me finish my loving tribute to jeremy steele or you can call me back RIGHT NOW while she's in the car writing up paper work."

Luke: "What's the matter, you can't make the payments?"

Mike: "I can make the payments. We just want to move to a bigger house in Northridge."

Jim: "Mike can make the payments, it's just that he has this deal where Metro is supposed to cut the checks, and for some reason he suddenly finds himself being evicted."

Mike: "I resent those comments."

Luke: "Are you moving because your neighborhood has too many orthodox Jews in it?"

Mike: "No, they've actually driven up the property values... It's only because I live amongst the Jews that my house is so over-valued and I am able to sell it at a handsome profit and buy a much larger property in the Northridge area. God bless the Jews."

Hello Jeremy
Have you had your Prozac today?
Have you written to Luke F-rd
To dispell rumors that you are gay

You crawled out of the woodwork,
And everybody thinks that you are insane
You jacked off on a webcast
And you left a cyber stain

And it seems to me that you lived your life
Like a psycho with a grudge
You write songs you think are brilliant
But we think are sludge

I wish that you'd stop singing
Cause your songs can kill
Your candle burned out long before
Your penis ever will

Songwriting is tough
But everything you do comes out the same
Chatsworth created a porno star
And pain is the price we pay.

Even when you die
Oh, your music will live on
As long as you have computers
With access to MP3.com

And it seems to me that you lived your life
Like a psycho with a grudge
You write songs you think are brilliant
But we think are sludge

I wish that you'd stop singing
Cause your songs can kill
Your talent burned out long before
Your penis ever did

Jim: "Do you think the rest of the world knows what incredibly entertaining humor exists in the porno business?"

Mike: "I only hope that I have done justice to Jeremy Steele. I have another song, "The Ballad Of Jeremy Steele."

1996 I started a porn movie
Later that same year
T hey were trying to get rid of me
I told them that I had talent
B ut they could not see
Everybody said that
I was just plain creepy

My name is Jeremy Steele
I want everyone to know how I feel
And so I am going to sing a song
That proves I was crazy all along
I'm going to ramble on and on
Until all of Luke F-rd's listeners are gone

It's true my personality
Is quite unusual
And yes I've been accused
Of being quite delusional

I'm better than the Beatles
McCartney was fraud
I'm a psycho singing porno star
More Powerful Than God

My name is Jeremy Steele
I want everyone to know how I feel
And I can write a song to make you cry
I can shoot my load in to your eye
And I'm going to ramble on and on
Until all of Luke F-rd's listeners are gone

Mike: "I just want to dedicate that to the great artist who has given so much to all of us."

Jim: "We're never going to get another porn star to come on this show and sing because they're gonna think that Mike McCormick will turn around and write songs about them."

Mike: "This was a special occasion.

"Everybody [Nina Whett, Kendra Jade, etc] seems to have started a music career since that VH1 Porn To Rock special."

Jim: "I'd like to get some Matt Zane music on here."

Mike: "It wouldn't be quite as melancholic and soulfull as 'The Ballad of Jeremy Steele.'"

Jim: "Do you think Jeremy is listening? No, he's at Babenet. He can't."

Mike: "He's at Babenet jerking off."

Jim: "He'll listen later on, when he's tending to the callouses on his penis. Late at night, when he's rubbing cornhusker's lotion on to his penis."

Mike: "But think about how many times Jimmy you and I have done that very same thing for free. He's earning a living.

"I remember shooting a scene at 2:30 in the morning at Jimmy's guesthouse and you [Jim] were snoring through it."

Jim: "Yes, it was with Christina Angel, who was also fast asleep."

Mike: "She fell asleep on the drive over, and then nodded off during fellatio.

"I don't shoot at my home. I've tried to not bring porn into my home. But as I owe the IRS a whole s---load of money, I've decided to break that rule."

Luke: "Jimmy, how could you live somewhere that has various strangers bodily secretions deposited randomly about the premises?"

Jim: "I can't. That's why I don't live there anymore. It became too much. My house started smelling like PineSol, like those video arcades."

Luke: "Mike, I am disappointed by the lack of output of late on QuasarmanRants.com."

Mike: "Initially I had a lot of stuff built up from years of being in this business, pent up, ready to explode, and I've let most of it out now. And I don't get a great deal of email and submissions from the general audience, so I usually don't feel like sitting down and doing something creative."

Luke: "Have you been writing more of your great scripts?"

Mike: "No."

Luke: "Have you been writing more of your crumby scripts?"

Mike: "No. I found a person who works for a mainstream employment company who gets a kick out of writing scripts for these movies. So I've been getting them from him. I couldn't write another script if my life depended on it."

Luke Gets Mail

Scott Lawrence writes: Yes Britt,I enjoy the new flesh by jerking off to it,and from a wanking perspective I would definately go with you over Brandy. You look much better now than she did when she was young(ish). Always thought Brandy looked like Garth on Wayne's World. You had a dirty mouth before it was the norm in XXX, Brandy was just there and whines alot.Still haven't shown your boobies on l-keford but looking at the recent pics,you're pretty well perserved(even with the chins). Brandy has not and that's some serious droop in her boobie pic(Luke must have MAJOR bandwidth to fit those things here). Plus,Britt for an old broad I respect you. You are still in the biz and not doing old bag gang bang videos at Filmco. Doing camerawork is pretty cool! Meanwhile,I think Brandy is working the drive-up window at Weiner Hut. Actually Britt,my only gripe with you is getting that retard Tony Tedeschi started in the biz. Do I get an autographed picture now?!!? By the way,how big a weasel was Bill Maher when he interviewed you on The Midnight Hour(this was way before Politically Incorrect)?

BRITT Morgan sayz: uuUmmm, I do not know what FSC is, or stands for. and I, uummm, have NO idea who in the bejeezies John Ashcroft is. (see, 'I' am not IN the business anymore, and so I don't really keep up with trivial crap like whatever or whoever that all is) BUT, what I DO know, is why none of us ever liked you back then, Brandy - thanks for clearin' that s--- up for me....... you the pal - and hey! JRob - dude, thanks for the offer - most kind indeed - but I'm thinkin' we finally got this crap straightened out betwixt us. and Scott, I apologize, I know - I know - but I wuz just must'n to know wut FSC wuz....... you all make me laugh!! I love this place!

Joe Billy-Bob writes: jee-lou-eezy........this girl rite-cheer is ina harsh-way neeedin' - I meens - REEEELY neeeedin' to git some bone on......no watch-i meen? dangit, if'n she wern't so gA-dAng awfullin', she mites juss be wurf heppin' 'er knockin' out somes 'er aytitude. hey thar brandi girl-pie - gives me a holler, and i'll beez the mans ya been hunkerin' for to sit ya' a smilin' for a change. dangit, you's a spunky won. i likes that.

Britt writes: www.opposeashcroft.com people, and if'n thar wuz a www for opposebitchiness, we'd probubly be a-runnin' to that one too......I won't even bother to further negate myself with any mundane responses to our beloved Brandi Alexander - she speaks quite eloquently all for herself. duh. Hey Scott, thanks a bunch for the validation - I guess I am an old broad, and I'm pretty okay with that, life is really good these days, and as long as we're still all free enough to at least jerk off at our own whim, then who can really complain, eh? ('cept of course You-Know-Who) - And as far as all the 'fresh meat' in the biz - some of 'em are definately 'lookers' and truly talented little actresses - and regardless of what any of them do or have done or are destined to do, the minute they step into this ring of female porn talent, they become a responsibility to all of us women who have come before them (no pun intended). I do not judge any of them for a damn thing - every one is an individual and deserves respect and glory for just having the guts to step into this ring of fire to begin with - and I'm for one proud to have had the opportunity, and grateful to every single fan I ever had for making it great and worthwhile - not to mention the life-long friends I had the pleasure of making. I love this business - it was never anything but gracious and good to me, and I will stand my ground for every woman in it, and give whatever I can to be a support for any one of them if needed. These girls are my concern just as I was a concern of Nina Hartley's when I came in. Nina taught me what self-respect and true empathy was in spite of all the male and female 'Brandy"s out there. This business may not be perfect, but apparantly nothing in the world is except Miss Alexander. Drop me a mail at britt_morgan@email.com, Scott, and I'll definately send you a slick.