Friday, March 30th, 2001

Alisha Klass On Mancow

MyMancow@aol.com writes on RAME: She was on this mourning, I am a big Mancow show fan and what you guys call a lurker, also a big Alisha Klass fan. I will do my best to let u know what she said to the best of my memory. Lets see she talked about famous people she f---ed, she f---ed Bruce Willis and is doing him right now he is out of the country at the time being. She told a story of how she broke up with Seymore Butts. Heres the thing she was outta town and when she got back she saw a piece of paper with an escort agency's number on it, and also a sheet of paper with a girl named Shasta's number on it. She tried to get in touch with Shasta but had no luck. She asked Seymore about Shasta and he denied having sex with her, Alisha said she knew she was lying so she broke up with him.

But heres the interesting part Shasta was on Mancow today to. It took Alisha a few minutes to figure it out but a few minutes into the interview she asked Shasta if she did a Seymore Butts movie, she said yes, Shasta is the girl that Seymore denied having sex with while Alisha was outta town but she got the conformation today. Shasta(http://www.shasta-x.com) had sex with an intern from the show yesterday and a fan today. Alisha said she didn't mind that Shasta had sex with Seymore, she did mind that Seymore lied to her though, Alisha even invited Shasta onto her Playboy show. Alisha admited to having sex with Emileo Estevez 4 times, heres the twist she had sex with him while she was away from Seymore right b4 she came back and found out about Shasta. I guess she thinks its ok to be a cheat but its not ok when she gets cheated on. Thats all the interesting stuff basicly, Alisha was flirting with Mancow during the whole show but I think Mancow was just f---ing with her since he was a girlfriend. Oh Alisha admited to losing her virginity at age 16, and said she doesn't do girls in her private life only in the movies, which she is retired from now.

Luke Gets Extasy, True Blue Porn Channels Kicked Out Of Canada

XXX in Canada tells Luke Wednesday night: "My friend said, 'Quick, turn to the CBC. There's naked girls on it.' So I turned and there you were."

Luke: "Wherever there are naked girls, yearning to be free, there I am."

XXX: "How come you didn't tell everybody you were going to be on TV?"

Luke: "I'm too humble. How did I come across?"

XXX: "You were cute."

Luke: "But was I morally authoritative?"

XXX: "You were talking about bleeding from the anus, which is quite vulgar really. When did you do that interview? Where?"

Luke: "About six weeks ago. In my hovel. The CBC came over and spent about three hours with me."

XXX: "You're serious. She [reporter Hana Gartner] came to your hovel? That's [Fifth Estate] a major program here. It's like 60 Minutes.

"Your scar looked prominent. It was very obvious. They probably didn't have special lighting."

Luke: "I'm a wounded man."

Toronto Dave writes: Luke, just to let you know your comments on the canadian program CBC's Fifth estate has resulted in Extasy and TrueBlue television being kicked out of Canada. It has also resulted in Playboy TV etc. being investigated. It looks like you have set porn back 30 years in Canada with your comments. (Whose side are you on anyway?) By the way I seen Ashlyn Gere in Toronto last week she is still very hot!

Beater writes: Toronto Dave if you believe that Lukes comments got Extasy and TrueBlue kicked of Canada you need to have your head checked? last time I checked Luke had no power with the Canadian government and if you watched the Fifth Estate and know what current laws in this country dealing with porn you would know Luke had zero to with it. You also say, "It looks like you have set porn back 30 years in Canada with your comments." sorry but our laws are way behind the Americans and always have been it looks, like you are looking scapegoat and you have decided it is Luke.

MDL writes Luke: I don't really care that you got these channels canceled. However, you flat out lied to do it. Did no one from the program ask for the names and the details of these girls with the broken jaws and internal injuries?

I've been around here for a couple of years and other than a a little bleeding from some foreign girls ass you've never mentioned anything like this.

And did no one check your credentials? Did none of them read the site and realize you are a mentally ill pseudo-Jew clinging to the edge of the scene by your fingernails. Are you allowed to lie in the pursuit of God's will?

Oh well, life is funny. Until I watched you tell a pack of porkpies I actually respected the Fifth Estate, believed they did stellar work.

It wasn't a total loss though. You looked very pretty.

Luke says: I've talked about these problems before. See my profiles on Rocco Siffredi, Jon Dough, Max Hardcore and Rough Sex for more details. I stand by the truth of what I said. Porn sex is frequently a full contact sport and people get hurt. Yes, even broken jaws and internal injuries. More important, many people's souls get severely bruised, resulting in self destructive behavior that includes suicide. Porn has left a long line of body bags. And let's not forget about AIDS. Over 150 performers in homosexual porn have died from AIDS.

ThoughKrime writes on RAME: This tv show in Canada found a few B&D scenes in the videos that Bell Express Vue sattelite service have been showing. They built a porn expose around these scenes as they go against provincial film guidelines, eg no coercion etc. Bell has now pulled the 2 porn channels in question.

Luke F-rd was interviewed, calls all those involved in porn scum of the earth. tells the interviewer that acctresses routinely go to the hospital with broken jaws, internal bleeding, bleeding from every orrifice, etc.He comes across as an idiot spouting hyperbole; who in porn would actually talk to this guy??

Rob Black was also given a fair amount of airtime and a few nc scenes were shown from his films. Not sure why he was included, his films weren't the ones in question. The whole show was just an excuse to show some "shocking" stuff on TV with no real focus.

Robert Lombard must respond to 'Toronto Dave'..The story regarding Canada and Erotic Network broke a day later in HOLLYWOOD REPORTER. KUDOS to Luke for being on top of IMPORTANT SOLID Adult News that could effect ALL legitimate Adult content providers.

Spaceman writes on RAME: Has there ever been a documented case of an actress going to the hospital with a broken jaw due to her performance in a scene? I swear I heard this allegation before from someone like Catharine MacKinnon. Is it an urban legend along the same lines as "girl gets pregnant from swallowing her boyfriend's load" or what?

Cheyenne Silver And Why Porn Journalists Hate Vivid

Porn journalists tend to hate Vivid because it is almost impossible to extract information from them about problems at the company. Latest case in point - the misadventures of contract girl Cheyenne Silver. Nasty gossip has been posted about her on various sites such as GeneRossExtreme and PornGossip. I have no idea if it is true. Vivid won't tell me anything.

Silver is widely advertised on various escorting sites such as NicisGirls.com.

XXX writes: "Luke; I've read the gossip; I personally don't think it is completely inaccurate. Of course Vivid isn't going to comment on some problems they are having; it's not good business sense."

On March 13, 2001, Luke received this email from Chris: Wanting gossip: I stumbled across this photo and wondered who the happy trio was? I know one is that hottie, Stephanie Swift. Is this Cheyenne and her new Hubbie? Word was she was with Andrae Madness aka Dr. Fellatio. Was he married to Swift at one time? Whats the dillio?

I spoke Friday afternoon with Cheyenne's ex-fiance Gregory Bauman. I read him the allegations posted on GeneRossExtreme and PornGossip.com.

Greg: "I can't say that she doesn't have problems. She's going through some very difficult times right now. I've never known her to do drugs. I don't think she would be the type.

"She and I have not really spoken in the last two months. I know that she's going through some difficult times related to family members health issues. I wouldn't know about any abortion. The last time I talked to her, she was pretty troubled."

Luke: "You were engaged to Cheyenne a few months ago, at the same time that she was widely advertised on many escorting sites."

Greg takes a long pause before answering carefully: "Umm, I've learned a lot of things about Cheyenne in the last few months. I've gotten a lot of phone calls and a lot of email. Somebody is emailing me quite a bit of information that is unwanted about her, including that information. Saying things such as 'You're girlfriend is a high class hooker.' I wasn't aware of it.

"We've had a relationship for over two years. We've been off and on. This last Christmas she asked me to marry her and three weeks later she ended the relationship. Her behavior has been very erratic. I don't know why. In the last few months, a lot of things have come out. In retrospect, it is possible..."

Luke: "How well do you know her?"

Greg: "We dated between 1998-99. And then she got back together with her ex-boyfriend [Andrae Madness aka Dr. Fellatio] for six months, then came back to me. We spent another eight months together, had some more problems. She went back to her ex-boyfriend. Then last September, she got back together with me and things were stable through Christmas. She gave me a ring and asked me to marry her. Then at AVN [Expo in Las Vegas in January] things fell apart. Our relationship ended."

Luke: "Was it something that you did?"

Greg: "She had a vehicle that was stolen. And it was alleged that I had the vehicle... She believed that I took her vehicle. We had a fight. I was on the plane back to LA. She didn't call me for three days. Then she called me to say that her truck had been stolen. And she told the police that I had done it. I was very hurt by that.

"Then her behavior got very erratic. And our relationship ended."

Greg was never charged with a crime and was never interviewed by the police.

Greg: "I found out some things that she hadn't been to truthful with me about. She is back together with her ex-boyfriend. Which doesn't surprise me. She's gone back and forth between us for the last two years."

Bauman says he washed his hands of the relationship and he wishes Cheyenne the best of luck. "It's not a fun game to play anymore.

"I got a slew of emails from somebody, anywhere from 'Stinkpot Silver' to 'Did you know that your girlfriend is a whore?'... Somebody sent me every bit of information on her that they could. I didn't want it.

"I am concerned about her. The last couple of times I talked to her she was very upset. She was not at her best emotionally. She talked about getting out of the industry. She talked about everybody in the industry being liars. And she sounded very isolated. She felt like she didn't want to be a part of the industry anymore.

"I've known people in the industry for a while. I'm best friends with Reb Sawitz's daughter. I've known her ten years. I saw Cheyenne when she first entered the industry. She boarded her horse at my ranch. I would give her advice on things. I told her, 'Nobody really comes out of the industry whole. It tears everybody up. If you look at any woman over 30, they're not in good shape. They're either sexually screwed up, screwed up on drugs, not a dollar to their name... It is minimum wage emotionally. You have to make sure that you know what you're getting into.

"I don't think she did. I think the reality is setting in that her career choices may be causing her a lot of emotional problems. I do know that she is not the right kind of person to be able to handle the emotional abuse of being in the adult industry. It's too hard on her. In the over two years, I've seen her decay."

Luke: "God, this story is so typical."

Greg: "You name one woman past 30 who is ok. I feel like telling everybody in the industry, except for Steve Hirsch and the big guys who are making all the money. Everybody else, stop what you're doing. Look at what you're doing. And go get a job at Home Depot because at least they have profit sharing and a retirement plan. You'll be better off working in the garden section and you will probably have more money when you hit 30 [years of age] then you will in this business and you will probably be a lot more emotionally well off. Go get a minimum wage job.

"I'm not downing the adult industry. I have always said, 'If you're going to do it, do it right. Do it with safety and concern. And I've always been positive with her. I knew she was doing porn when I met her. I never discouraged her from doing it. If more people [in porn] would realize what an emotional strain it is, they would go get a job at McDonalds."

Luke: "When I met her in 1998, she just seemed so sweet and fresh and innocent."

Greg: "She has a very naive innocence to her. Unfortunately, people prey on that."

Luke: "What happened with her web site CheyenneSilver.com?"

Greg: "I'm going to get in a lot of trouble for this but I may as well say it because it is true. You can look up who was the administrator for her web site. He approached her before she signed her Vivid contract. He promised her quite a few things.

"She provided him with a number of her photographs. Her scrapbooks and things. He wanted amateur pictures and hardcore and softcore. I was worried about it. I said, 'You better be careful with this guy. He's young and ambitious and he doesn't seem like he knows what he's doing. But give it a try. It's a free site. Then you can launch a pay site later on.

"So he launched it and the first thing I noticed was that he had her four year old child on her web site. And her mother and her brother. Having a child on an adult web site, I would think, would be a federal violation. I told her to take those pictures down. He didn't do it.

"Then he had this supposed message board where people were calling her 'Stinkpot Silver' and I'm thinking, 'My God, this is supposed to be her web site. This is supposed to promote her to her fan base. And it is doing nothing but degrading her. I told her, 'You have control over this. Tell your webmaster to take the message board down. Take the kids off the thing. Clean this web site up.'"

Luke looks up the domain name CheyenneXXX.com on Network Solutions and finds: Vivid employee Christopher Haberski (Haberski@REALIDEAS.COM), who is at: 1033 12TH ST STE 301 Santa Monica, CA 90403-4265. The sites have been down for weeks.

Greg: "The webmaster was unresponsive. We had a breakup. For about two months, we didn't see each other. Then up came this letter on the front of her web site, that Vivid forced her to get her boobs done. She cried all the way to the doctor's office. And the letter made her sound like an idiot."

Vivid girl Cheyenne Silver writes on the front page of her website www.cheyennesilver.com in August of 2000: "To all my fans, I'm very upset with some of the talk that has been happening on the Forum boards. First you start to tell me not to get a boob job, but I do. Then everyone starts to turn on me. I cried when I went to get them done because I saw what people were saying on the polls. I didn't ever want to get them done, but t hey said they needed them to be perked up. So I got them. Now some idiot starts talking about hygine. I don't know who it i s, but they don't know anything. I think it's very sad that someone has so much time to make up hurtful stories about someone else. I guess it all comes from jealousy. Those who've met me know the real me w hat I'm about."

Greg: "A friend called me to say how she couldn't believe how much garbage was on the web site. I said, 'There's no way that she would write something as stupid as that. It's got to be coming directly from the webmaster. She called him and told him to take it down. And it did come down. But he didn't want to take the kids pictures off the web site. A four year old daughter on a porn site is bad.

"I sent him a strong cease-and-desist letter. He took the site down after that. This person [Christopher Haberski] happens to work in the chromes department of Vivid Video. And Vivid backed him. Vivid had a banner on the site. And Vivid basically told her that what she did was wrong. That she shouldn't have sent him a cease-and-desist letter. They didn't agree with it. I told her that she should come forward and tell the public what really went on. She never did. My feeling was that Vivid was condoning a four year old child on a pornography web site. And Vivid was the number one sponsor on the site.

"It looked to me like Vivid was putting the pressure on her to sign with them to have them make the web site because then they take 50% of the proceeds. It almost looked to me that Vivid was making her look bad to pressure her to sign with them for her web site. By putting up these nasty comments about 'Stinkpot Silver', by talking about her boobs, by putting up a ridiculous letter... By putting up all these rotten things about her. The site had the worst publicity of anybody... I couldn't have thought of a way to make her look more ridiculous.

"He did take it down. But he put an auto-link to it and stole the site. She owns the domain CheyenneSilver.com. He bought the domain CheyenneXXX.com. He put up an auto-link so that when people went to CheyenneSilver.com, it automatically went to CheyenneXXX.com. And he was using all the same material in all the photographs without her permission. And she never saw a dime from any of the revenues from the site. Vivid had a banner at the top.

"She asked him for the domain CheyenneXXX.com and he wouldn't do it. He said, 'I'll sell it to you for a profit.' And he called me on the phone and said, 'I just talked to Steve Hirsch and to Marci and they both agree with me that your letter is ridiculous and insane. And you shouldn't have done this. If you want to talk to me about this, we can talk, but I'm not going to do any of the things that you asked for in this letter.'

"We asked him that he take down the web site immediately. That he provide an accounting of any revenues. That he cease and desist any activity relating to Cheyenne Silver.

"It appeared to me...that Vivid said, 'Hey, let's make her look bad on this web site that she tried and she'll have more of an incentive to go over to our webmaster and sign up at 50% profit.'"

Luke: "I wish I knew what was going on with her."

Greg: "Her behavior has been pretty out there. But under the circumstances of what she's going through, that's understandable. She's under a lot of pressure. She does feel abandoned. She's really stressed out. If she does have a drug problem, I hope she's getting help for it. I wouldn't think she does.

"I got the posting from GeneRossExtreme and I hit the roof. I was so upset. On the one hand, I said there's no way this could happen. And the second part is, she has been acting extremely erratic. I can't see her doing drugs.

"As far as the escorting, I don't want to get into that. If she was doing it, I wasn't aware of it. I have become aware that she is on a couple of escort service sites. I'm getting all the same information that you're getting and I am just sitting back and going, 'My God. What's going on?' It's alarming. I can't say this wasn't expected but it didn't feel good to get that kind of information in my email box.

"We had a problem once before with somebody posting information about her. It seems to be somebody who's close to her and likes to stir up trouble. Her look on it was, 'Let the losers say what they want. They're all losers. They don't have a life. I'm not going to even comment on it.' I think that's a good attitude on her part.

"She's a bright girl. I drove her to the doctor's office when she got her boobs done. She was not happy about getting it done because she was scared. But she wasn't forced to do it. She loves them now. And as her boyfriend, we went back and forth on it. She spent about six weeks debating whether she should get it done. I was with her at the time she was negotiating her contract with Vivid. Part of the contract was to get her breasts augmented.

"I told her, 'Boyfriends try to be diplomatic. The pros are, it will fill your body out better. It will make you look more proportionate. You'll get more work from it. I think you'll feel better about it. I think you'll look better with them, as long as you don't get them too big.

"It was funny. About four months ago, she said, 'Why didn't you tell me that I had icky little boobs?' And I said, 'That's why boyfriends are diplomatic. I didn't think you had icky little boobs.'

"She said, 'Well, I looked at pictures of myself before and I'm looking at pictures of me now, and I think I had icky little boobs.' I said, 'Boyfriends don't say things like that. They say, 'Well, I think you're going to look better.'

"I took care of her the week after she got her implants done. She wouldn't let me go home. I had to stay with her the whole week.

"She's a sweet girl. She's a little naive to the business. And I think it's taking its toll on her."

Luke: "Do you think it was a good decision on her part to get the breast job?"

Gary: "I think they're [the new augmented breasts] are phenomenal. They're beautiful. I think it was a great decision. She had medium sized waist. She's not very petite in the hips. And her breasts, they filled her proportions out well.

"Looking at her test shots for Vivid, I said, 'You're frame is just not right for your boobs. They're too small. And if you increased them to a moderate size, you'll look great.'

"She was very concerned. Every person that she talked to had a different idea. She did go to get her boobs done, I drove her down. And she was so upset that she couldn't get them done and she left the office. And we had the surgery all planned. We rescheduled it for three weeks later. By that time, she'd made up her mind. So there was no problem.

"I'm glad she did cancel out the first time. One thing that was really nice...was that they called her right away. They said they understood and they were supportive of it. And that she could come in to talk to them about it. They didn't say, 'You're fired. We're going to cancel your contract.' So Vivid said, 'Let's work this out.' I think Steve Hirsch went out of his way to make her feel comfortable about that. She was really stressed out. She said, 'I'm going to lose my contract. I'm going to lose this...' Steve Hirsch called and was very supportive of her. I think that helped her decision as well to get them done [in May of 2000].

"She got a full C cup. They look great. They feel natural.

"She was very unhappy with them after the surgery. About two weeks after the surgery because of the swelling. I told her, I've dated girls who've had their breasts done before, you're going to have a lot of swelling. Don't be upset because they're going to be a lot bigger than they would be normally. So I remember one time when she was angry that they were too big. But eventually the swelling went down and she was fine. I can't image how they could've done a better job."

Luke: "Did she come to like them?"

Gary: "She loves them. She feels better about herself. She says, 'You're right. They do fill my body out more.' I think she photographs better with the implants. And there haven't been any complications. You see a lot of girls that get 600ccs done. She only had 300 ccs [of silicone]. A Beverly Hills doctor."

David Moyes from Wireless Flash news service writes about Vivid: Dear Luke: You need to learn to read between the lines more.

No answer isn't no answer. It is an answer. Just not a clear-cut one. Also, since some pornsters have accused you of printing rumors without getting the other side first, they may be leary to come out and give you a scoop.

The publicists at Vivid have always been first rate with me -- especially compared to mainstream publicity flacks. However, I admit that in order to get interviews with Vivid personalities, you sometimes need to reassure them first that it won't hurt their family friendly image.

On the other hand, once the interview has been set up, I've found most of the Vivid folks to be good interviews and willing to talk about their work as much as anyone.

I interview all sorts of folks -- not just porners -- and, being perfectly honest, sometimes I would rather have a ``No comment'' than a straight answer.

Luke says: Well, I and my peers can't stand them because you can never seem to get a straight answer out of them to a tough question. Your job doesn't require you to ask tough questions. You don't have to cover Vivid on a sustained and indepth basis. For you, Vivid is great. For mainstreamers who come in to the industry to do one story, Vivid is fantastic.

8/13/00

DoneDave writes on CheyenneSilver.com: "So our lady of the lay has a hygene problem? Well I suggest we buy her some shampoo, soap, deodorant/anti-perspirant, toothpaste, mouthwash, and a WHOLE LOT of Summer's Eve products! lol"

Peter Gripp writes: "DONE DAVE, YOU ARE A COMPLETE ASSHOLE PRICK!!! I MET CHEYANNE AT VSDA AND SHE IS THE SWEETEST, MOST NICEST GIRL I'VE EVER MET IN PORN (THOUGH NOT THE SHARPEST STICK). SHE IS GREAT!!!! YOU NEED TO STOP REPLYING TO IGNORANT POSTS LIKE BABYJESUS. SOME STUPID f--- WHO IS JUST TRYING TO CAUSE TROUBLE ON THIS BOARD LIKE THE MR. MARCUS BOARD. f--- YOU,f--- YOU!! CHEYANNE WE LOVE YOU AND YOU'RE AS PRETTY AS AND SMELL LIKE A FLOWER."

XXXPassword - Its the surfer's key to Ecstasy.

DoneDave: "PeterGripp- You stupid dips---! (laughing again!) I meant NO harm in my post! If you notice, I complained about Vivid's "forcing" (whether or not they did...well) Cheyenne to get implants! I think she's beautiful, and she's definitely helped me to blow my wad MORE than a few times! If she has a hygene problem, well we (her fans) could support her (like sending her a care package). I meant the f---ing post a joke- geez asshole, you need to get a f---ing life! After all she's just a f----film starlet!"

Monkey: "From everything I hear, this guy is absolutely right about her hygiene issues. My cousin worked on set at Elegant Angel, and he told me that there were A LOT of complaints floating around. For instance, not to name any names, but a certain dark-haired, real-titted, contract girl for a major company could tell you plenty of stories."

BabyJesus: "i heard from my buddy that used to work on sets that she has a serious hygeine issue and they used to call her "Stinkpot" Silver."

Brian writes Luke: Luke: I hereby volunteer to meet with Cheyenne, pull her pants down and eat her pussy for 1 hour. I will them give a full report in writing to l-keford.com on the state of her pussy.. I'm willing to pay all my expenses too.

Meni: Luke, did ya notice on cheyenne's site. She has a great collection of free pics. Not your typical set of pics on a pornstar's site, and thats refreshing.. s---, do I sound gay?

Meni Troupakis from PornNewsDaily.com conducted this telephone interview with Cheyenne in July of 2000:

Cheyenne: I lived in South Beach, Miami for 3 months while I was out there trying to start modeling and it ended up being a long crazy trip
PND: How did you get into porn?
Cheyenne: A friend of mine worked for Vivid as an extra and he knew how sexual I was and he knew that I wanted to have a horse ranch, and I wanted to run and own my own my own horse ranch and so he knew this would be one of the possible quickest ways for me to get there.
PND: So you were a little wild before you got into the biz?
Cheyenne: Yeah, I was experimental, I wanted to experience everything, and he knew that and he knew the business would let me try out anything I wanted to try out, (laugh) as long as it's on camera. So I started and I liked it so I never stopped, and I never went back to dancing.
PND: Do you have any idea how long you want to stay in the biz?
Cheyenne: I've given myself a total of 10 years between, being in movies, directing my own movies and dancing. And then after 10 years I'd like to be on my ranch, and back in the mountains growing my crops, and livestock and everything.
PND: Have you ever walked off a set, or refused to work with someone? Cheyenne: I have refused to work with someone in the past, just because I was unsure of the test status, and there was a problem with that. I've gotten pretty upset on some sets and uncomfortable or problems and this or that, but I don't think I've ever walked off. I've put up with a lot of stuff and gone and shot what I need to do.

PND: What about people who think that porn degrades women?
Cheyenne: In a lot of cases its true, but I think if you don't let them, they can't do it to you, I mean, I don't really let anyone do that to me, I try to stay strong, and when I want to I am, you know who I want to portray, express myself, and so. Yeah, but it happens a lot, especially, the more naive, I've had it happen because I started in the business very naive.
PND: If you weren't in some field of adult entertainment, what would you want to be doing?
Cheyenne: Mainstream acting or modeling. I tried that out in Florida.
PND: How did that go in Florida
Cheyenne: It didn't pan out because I wasn't tall enough, I wasn't skinny enough. They liked, at the time, they were into that real skinny anorexic dead look. And I just wasn't there. And I tried losing the weight and I just couldn't do it so I came back. I know out here I could do some modeling, but I'm happy where I am at now. I do modeling occasionally, but I don't want get into the struggling for years like some actors do?

PND: Do you just date people in the business now?
Cheyenne: No actually, I try to keep it as far away from it, because the business is a such crazy place, and there tends to be a lot of jealousy problems. When I got in, I was staying away from dating in the business, and then I got with , the director, and we've been doing actually really good.
PND: If I asked someone to tell me about Cheyenne Silver, what would they tell me about you?
Cheyenne: They would say that I am a nature girl (laugh), very free spirited, and adventurous.

PND: What do you do in your spare time? Do you go clubbing, do you stay at home?
Cheyenne: I'm more of a day time, enjoy the day, and love to sleep at night. I don't go out very late, very much, occasionally I will go out to just enjoy a good time out, but, my spare time I spend with my horse, I either go horseback riding, or I go wave running, I go biking up in the mountains, I go water skiing or snow skiing, I love camping, I do that once a week at least in the summer. I go visit my Mom in San Diego. I do a lot of outdoor adventure things.

12/24/00

I've heard that Cheyenne Silver's contract with Vivid Video required four movies from her for 1999 and a breast job in exchange for $100,000.

Porn Ace comments: "Vivid is bribing hot fresh babes to put those silly inflated bags their perfectly cute awesome looking natural tits?Outrageous!Whoever is making these decisions at Vivid needs a brain implant because it's obvious they don't have one that works normally.Dumbasses!!"

Sunrise Adams Gossip

Diane writes: Sometimes this industry pisses me off. All the game playing. For example, Sunrise Adams (a relative of Sunset Thomas). Shes a champ at playing games. Keeping a dumb boyfriend back home who can't even fiqure out she is pregnant and still playing games with other relatives as well, including Sunset. Poor Sunset is going crazy trying to help her but Sunrise fights her all the way. Now, Sunrise gets pregnant by the head of Analbolic (Chris or Bif whatever his name is) and says she is gonna get an abortion and be out of work for 4 weeks. Sunset told her to use protection, but she didn't listen. Everything Sunset tells her, she doesn't listen. This is a friend of Sunset telling you this. I think Sunset should give up on this game playing, non-listening, 18 year player.

Pinceton Professor Of Ethics Defends Bestiality

From the Wall Street Journal editorial: Remember Irving Kristol's famous crack that the only question a liberal would have when presented with an 18-year-old girl having sex onstage was whether she was being paid the minimum wage? Well, Peter Singer has taken this a step further. In an online review of a book that takes on the "taboo" against bestiality, Princeton's DeCamp Professor of Bioethics says that when it comes to sex with farm animals, the only real issues are whether you get the animal's consent -- and you don't kill it as part of your pleasure. Which, of course, is consistent with Professor Singer's key ethical contention: that the belief that human life has an inherent dignity higher than animals is mere "speciesism," a "prejudice no better founded than the prejudice of white slave-owners against taking the interests of their African slaves seriously."

From Peter Singer's article for Nerve.com:

But not every taboo has crumbled. Heard anyone chatting at parties lately about how good it is having sex with their dog? Probably not. Sex with animals is still definitely taboo. If Midas Dekkers, author of Dearest Pet, has got it right, this is not because of its rarity. Dekkers, a Dutch biologist and popular naturalist, has assembled a substantial body of evidence to show that humans have often thought of "love for animals" in ways that go beyond a pat and a hug, or a proper concern for the welfare of members of other species.

Zack writes: Luke, Your citation is Singer discussing someone else's argument. It's thus misleading for you to say that he "defends" bestiality. The article--a book review actually--is pretty evasive on the issue.

Porn Movie Budgets

Director David Clark writes on RAME: I'm going to guess at what he's trying to say, and remark that while perhaps the entire WHITE TRASH WHORE series boasts an aggregate production cost of $35,000, no single show would run that much, unless $20 grand of it's going towards buying somebody or other a new car.

No, seriously. A show like WHITE TRASH WHORE, while I don't know those particular budgets, can run anywhere from $6,000 to $15,000. And while Vivid does regularly grant budgets in the $75,000 range for prestige productions, their typical budget for an average feature (and this holds true at all the industry's leading feature-oriented companies) is less than half that.

Some videos have no location costs at all. Others -- including some of the Evil Angel-style gonzos -- pay for expensive locations and even more expensive studio time. Still, most such fees are a drop in the bucket compared to Hollywood -- though a truly high-end porn production might drop bucks in the same range as a very modest independent film or straight-to-cable, minor-studio "B" picture. Also, while a non-Southern Californian might not understand why businesses and individuals charge so much, you have to remember the porn industry is working the same physical territory as Hollywood, so they're often competing for the same places -- thanks to Hollywood, every schmuck with several hundred square feet and good light thinks he's got a Valuable Property on his hands.

Plus which, putting your natural horniness aside (because you're not going to be invited to perform, or usually even watch), would you rather be paid $15,000-$25,000 to have your Snazzy Digs rented for four days so, oh say, Burt Reynolds and Joan Chen can emote in it, or $500-$2,000 so Sasha Gabor and Cumisha Amado can deposit their personal odors and fluids all over it? Raincoaters in the terminal phases need not answer .... And for those who say, f--- those location fees and high crew costs, spend the money on the talent, instead, I suggest you be punished by being allowed to watch nothing but DIRTY DEBUTANTES tapes for the next month -- that's the series that adopted that set of fiscal values, and ran with it!

Max Hardcore Probed

Ian writes: UK mainstream TV channel Channel 4 is advertising a forthcoming programme entitled (I think) 'Hard Core', which describes the adventures of a British reporter/photographer accompanying a prospective entrant to the U.S. porn industry. The highlight of the programme, apparently, is her appointment with Max Hardcore, who abuses her to such an extent that she runs out of the room before her scene is over, and later has to be rescued by the reporter from being forced (through abuse and threats) by Max to continue with the scene. Surely such coercive behaviour is against the law in California? It certainly would be in the UK.

Do White Men Have Good Taste In Women?

Mr. Atom wrote: "Funny though one of my gfs sez gaijin men don't have the best taste in women. hehehehe."

David Aaron Clark replies on RAME: Ouch. I may be living proof she's right ... seriously, though, I think it's the same as the mania certain black guys have for white girls ... if they're the right race (which they've fetishized for other reasons), then (almost) anything looks good to 'em ... Also, Don't try to get over your anti-LA thing. L.A. sucks. If this isn't where I was working, I wouldn't be here. And Suzi isn't here, anyway ... she's based out of the San Francisco area.

Can A New Girl Make $20,000 A Month?

David Clark replies on RAME: Gee, by some seemingly impossible coincidence, I have been hammered with this question for the past few days by an East Coast-based aspiring porn slut out here in L.A. She even quotes the same figure, cuz that's what one of her friends said SHE made in her first month. I'd say what I said to her -- if you're lucky, if you're hot, and if you do everything right -- act totally professionally, negotiate properly, give great scenes and don't get taken in by greed and bulls--- -- either yours or that of the industry's -- maybe so. But it's rare, and chances are that unless you're hooked in to some extra-curricular industry sugar daddy, you'll be certainly working all three holes to the bone. I hope that answers China's question, and yours, too, nh316!

Private Lessons 2000

Producer/Director: Stuart Canterbury
Featuring: Chloe Nichole, Jewel Valmont, Dora Venter, Carmen Miss, Tamara, Melissa, Joel Lawrence, Alberto Rey, Frank Gunn, Leslie Taylor

Pat Riley writes on RAME: Now why would anyone send American female performers over to Europe to appear in porn? They don't have any girls willing to do sex on camera over there? The Euro studs are really great looking and can't be seen in the US? Porn has to be done outside the US because of some legal restriction? None of that's true so why this movie? Unsolved mystery.

The basic idea is that Joel teaches English at some sort of international school in Budapest and is employed by Chloe, an assistant to "the Contessa" (Dora, I suppose; tall, short red hair, not too pretty, big tits, scar on her right belly, tattoo on her right shoulder outside), to teach English to the Contessa because she wants to marry an English aristocrat. Joel has a girlfriend, Jewel (credits: Ava Vincent) and this extra income allows him to propose but she wants the white wedding and the white picket fence and turns him down. Meanwhile, Chloe is plotting to break up the Contessa/English aristocrat relationship of which she disapproves and manages to do so by leaking news of Joel's romantic involvement with the Contessa. While this was untrue at the time, seeing that both are now unattached they fall into each other's arms.

If the performers could only act, the directors direct, and the screenwriters write we could have had the makings of a good movie but as it is the characters are wooden, dialog is hopeless, and nothing is fleshed out. Only one of the girls, a student of Joel's with shoulder length brown hair with a fringe, medium tits, and a lithe body, is attractive and she proves to be a whore by doing a DP with two anonymous Euro-studs.

More Black Dirty Debutantes #31

Producer/Director: Ed Powers
Featuring: Kim, Karizzma, Emanuelle, Crystal Caramel, Ed Powers, Jay Ashley

Pat Riley writes on RAME: Ed has stopped putting in scene dates but Karizzma has her short hair style so this is likely to be one of her first. Unfortunately, it's not one of her best and the other females are bottom-of-the-barrel so it's only worth a cheap rental if you really like Karizzma and are prepared to tolerate the other garbage and, of course, Ed.

Kim is first up and she says that she's 18 years old and demonstrates that she'd like to be anywhere but screwing Ed. She has a marginal face, short black hair, medium/large droopy tits, not much waist, paintbrush, belly button post, faded tattoo on her right belly, and chunky thighs. She grimaces as Ed touches her, masturbates perfunctorily, and makes hardly any noise as she tolerates Ed masturbating in her vagina. It ends in a belly cum shot.

Emanuelle (see {More Dirty Debutantes #172}) is there to do a g/g with Karizzma and in the conversation beforehand admits to a baby at home. Karizzma also says that she has an eight month old baby. Wow, another set of unmarried mothers! Just what we need. Karizzma says that she's a mixture of Puerto Rican and black which obviously accounts for the facial features but in this movie she's not looking as pretty as in others. Lack of makeup and poor lighting and camerawork are probably responsible. Her teeth are also off-putting. She says that she doesn't masturbate because that would be like tickling oneself, states that she has never had sex with a girl, and also confirms that she's an anal virgin.

The girl/girl virgin becomes clear as Ed tries to push Emanuelle and her into kissing each other but then when they do some rug munching Karizzma seems to warm to the task. On the other hand when Ed finally joins in and screws Karizzma (Emanuelle is never penetrated) his dick goes into her asshole like a hot knife though butter so I have some doubt as to the anal virginity part. It ends in a body cum shot with some of the cum hitting her face. The other problem with this scene is that she's constantly looking at the monitor. I understand that that may be preferable to looking at Ed, but it would be nice if these girls would pretend. After the main event is all over Ed seems to admit that he's all-screwed-out and suggests that they continue with some toys so we're treated to a fake-as-can-be scene with a double-ended dildo.

The last girl, Crystal Caramel, is black with white skin, an ugly face, very long rope-like hair, very large tits (38D), bulging belly, and a generally huge body. She masturbates and then Ed screws her including an anal ending in a belly cum shot.

Piss Factory

Producer/Director: Yellow Rivers Featuring: Alana Evans, Molly Rome, Chaz Vincent, Keri Starr, Samantha Sterlyng, Steve Taylor, Johnny Thrust, David Hardman

Pat Riley writes: Another set of urination scenes mixed in with some sex but at least the girls are not revoltingly old. {The Piss Chair}: Someone has spent some time modifying a stool so that there's a potty built into the seat with a long clear plastic tube coming out the bottom leading to a glass bowl on the floor. This allows them to vastly increase the amount of pee while we stare in fascination at the yellow liquid draining down the tube. Well, you might be fascinated; I was wondering what the hell huge quantities of pee, fake or real, have to do with sex. Anyway, Alana pees in the potty, then Steve pees in the potty, they screw ending in a facial, and then she pees some more.

{Pissin' In The Pool}: Samantha, looking drunk, pees in...you guessed it...the pool and so does Thrust (credits: Giuseppe) and then they go inside and screw on the couch ending in a pussy cum shot.

{The Pee Bath}: Molly extinguishes a small fire in the back yard by peeing on it and then she and pudgy Chaz pee in an empty bathtub. Through the magic of editing and yellow food coloring, when they turn around the tub is half full of yellow water which naturally excites them and they jump in and do a g/g.

{The Pee Contest}: Hardman sets up a series of glasses on a set of steps in the backyard and says to Keri (see {Bunghole Harlots #5}) that they should have a contest to see who can fill the most glasses (or something like that). They try--not very well--and then move inside and screw on the couch ending in a facial after which they both drink a glass of yellow liquid. Wow, can you stand the eroticism"?

Nikki Charm's Comeback

Arch Stanton writes on RAME: Blowjob Adventures Of Dr. Fellatio 10 (1998) > I saw this and was shocked at how badly she has aged facially. She was a real hottie in her prime but was a notorious cumdodger, a mortal sin in my religion. So now she comes back and gets nasty but it's a little late imo.

When Luke F-rd Edits

Brandy Alexandre writes on alt.cult-movies.erotica: I just wanted to post the whole email I sent Luke. He has this habit of cutting out parts of emails that make it all make sense. Bugs me. This latest being about HIV=AIDS. Luke posted the second paragraph, but not the first. Here was my message:

Bob Jones writes: The stuff posted in response to Brandy on your site today about AIDS and HIV is absolute nonsense. These people who claim that HIV does not cause AIDS use the same ridiculous logic as the conspiracy theorists who think the moon landings were fake.

Brandy Alexandre says: Okay, now wait a minute... I watched that and, not being one to jump into conspiracy theories, you have to admit some of their evidence is compelling. I mention this to prove a point that I am not at all close-minded. People have attacked me as if I have the power to affect outcomes. I don't. I have opinions. I appreciate that they think my opinion carries weight, but it doesn't. As for me providing proof of anything, that's not my responsibility. It was done for me by years of research and countless studies. This, as in law, is a matter where the "plaintiff" bears the burden of proof anyway. If they want to sway opinions they have to do better than toss one or two studies into the mix and suggest some mindless celebrity believes it also. I mean, on the moon landing thing they had an astronaut and two others who worked at NASA on the "fake" side, so that MUST mean it's a fact that we didn't go. Right? Yeah... right.

As far as my comments being "cruel," again it was just an opinion that it was selfish and irresponsible. Yeah, they did what they thought was right for them. That's the whole point. I don't think they considered what was right for the child or for the people who will be caring for the child when that can't any longer. So what if they put together a whopping trust fund, someone else's life will be affected by their decision. There's no two ways about it. Jeremy is just still mad because I dissed him music a while back. I'm sorry he is incapable of separating issues and judging each on their own merits.

Frank Simns writes: Sounds like a new series on Fox. :-)

Brandy replies: ROFL! "When the World's Scariest Gossipmonger Attacks." Usually he's a good outlet for things rejected from RAME (reaching more people than posting here), but sometimes even he messes stuff up.

Frank replies: "Sometimes"???? You're more generous than I, Brandy. :-)

Gemini replies: f--- Luke F-rd. He's a hypocrite who bashes the porno industry in the day, and then jerks off while watching porno movies at night. He made a total ass of himself on "Fox Files" (which is no longer on the air) "Entertainment Tonight", and the "E! True Hollywood Story: Linda Lovelace". Make up your mind Luke. Either you are pro-porno or anti-porno.

Arch Stanton writes: Disagree. I saw the Linda Lovelace story and was impressed by his presentation; confident and knowledgable. The fact that he has ambiguous feelings about porn is no big deal. At least he's honest. Like Margold states and Im paraphrasing, "people push us away with the left hand and jerk off to us with the right." I like facials and when I was younger I felt ambiguous about the fact that this unusual practice had such an effect on me. My God I must be perverted. Of course now I dont give a s--- and facials dont have nearly the effect they once had. I also discovered that people have many diverse sexual turnons and the fact that facials became a staple in porn illustrates that my tastes are shared by many. One doesn't have to go to the far left or right on any given topic. Most issues have a center as well. One can be both "for" and "against" porn. Nothing is absolute except death, taxes, and women breaking your balls when pms rolls around.

Luke gets my two thumbs down on other issues; stating that XXX was doing a dog and showed a pic that he thought is was her, printing porno peoples real names, and betraying his friend Dennis Prager which was a real assholish thing to do. How can you trust a guy like that? You NEVER betray the trust of true friends.

Lovette Available In Los Angeles

Ko writes on BigDoggie.net: Lovette will be available for a limited number of incall appointments while she is dancing at Club Flesh in San Bernadino. She will also take outcalls as well. Please fill out the form below and for rates.

Jeremy Steel writes: Just wondering Luke if Lovette is giving you a percentage for any "escort" work she gets via your link? Tell her, for me, I said "Hi"

Extreme Heads For Courtroom Showdown With AVN

Esad2001 writes: it is very quiet. Extreme answered the lawsuit and everything is headed to a courtroom showdown. Like him or not, Fishbein, has the goods on the Extreme boys and plans to shove up their ass big time! Extreme attempts to decoy their horrible cash flow problems by creating controversy and mayhem and it should be fun to hear their bulls--- in court.

Net Billing Controversy

MikeSouth.com writes: I am unsure exactly what has happened but I will try and explain it to the best of my ability. Netbilling was doing the processing for my site. Mastercard Europe changed some online processing rules and netbilling didnt keep up. As a result in the last 45 days I have lost EVERY SINGLE MEMBER who was using a Mastercard and lived in Europe (thats 95% of my euro members) To say I am pissed is an understatement, those dips---s cost me a LOT of money, and to make matters worse they never notified me, I had to call and ask why so many euro declines....Then they said they couldnt fix it till May 1. f--- THEM. If you are doing business with Netbilling I suggest you look into alternatives. Thanks Luke for allowing me this PSA.

Mitch Farber from Net Billing replies: We (Netbilling) are the company that notified FDR of the problem and spent dozens and dozens of hours finding out what was happening. We also sent a mass email to all of our merchants letting them know as soon as we had the facts straight. This problem is not our fault by any means and we are in full compliance with Visa and Mastercard's processing certification requirements. We made the change needed the minute we found out. However, FDR has not fixed the problem internally and that is why there are still some problems. We are wating for FDR to make the fix on their end. This is not effecting all FDR merchants and seems to bre more frequent with FDR type 7 merchants using Humboldt bank. Anyone that does business with us (except this merchant obviously) know that we are EXTREMELY customer service oriented and work very hard to provide the best processing system around.

MikeSouth.com replies: Luke I am netbillings customer, I don't want to hear excuses from them. I am not FDR or whomevers customer, I know that other processing companies are not having thios issue and I know I have lost damn near all of my overseas customers because of this. NOW if Netbilling is so customer oriented why have I not been contacted by them? and how are they going to make up my lost revenue?

AlienX@SinCityFilms.com writes: If you understand FDR and general banking relationships ya may not be so upset its a complete mess. As you must know Visa/Mastercard has been doing alot of different minor changes lately. Minor changes effect minor banks. Humboldt Bank well there ya have it... Real deal is that many Banks that specialise in merchant accounts for adult companies are gettin shaked a little these days from Visa/Mastercard. Welcome to the Republican Era... You can bet that NETBILLING was on the ball, and you can certainly bet that many other transaction provider's have had to make the same changes. Your probably not the only guy that lost some $$$ out of this event.

Luke Gets Mail

Scott Lawrence writes: Timlake, for every success story you point out theres a hundred f----ups. Check out Luke's dead porn stars or TBD Porn Star Central with its dumb cunts selling themselves. Also,please explain why Pat Riley sucks and Max Hardcore is a stand-up dude(when he's not loaded). And you're a PUSS for not handling his videos anymore.

Brandy Alexandre writes: Why is Farrell Timlake rambling about not working with untested people? He's the one who is saying that HIV is not the cause of AIDS, so tested or untested, positive or negative, it really doesn't matter according to him. So what's his point?

Farrell Timlake responds: Allow me to retort. Brandy, I was relating a story from 1993 before I came to the conclusions that I have as my beliefs today. If I am proved wrong by Bob Jones when we meet on the field of debate, then guess what? I will change my perspective again, not likely, but certainly possible. If you actually were reading what I wrote, then that would be obvious. Besides, when you read what I am writing, you can see that I am actually very concerned about all stds. I want the industry to be as concerned about the spread of herpes and genital warts as it is about HIV. Get with the program, honey. At this point, you just invite ridicule because you are so clueless about so much and missing the boat on my message entirely. Even Bob Jones, the verbal pugilist I face in combat of the HIV issue after the next Luke show, sees what I am saying, so I know it is not me. If you still do not get it, please ask Luke to explain it to you.

In response to Scott Lawrence, how am I a puss not to handle Max? What do you know about business? The decision was mutual and amicable, so how can you say anything about it? How does not wanting to carry a certain line make me a puss? I am a businessman and I made a decision for the benefit of our business model. Max had a much better fit and deal at Legend. Besides, I don't want our product to be about the hatred people like you have for women. We are not about calling women "cunts, whores, stupid sluts, etc.". That stuff may appeal to pathetic little people like you and your fellow women haters like Riley, but to us it is just lame and was overdone long ago. I acknowledge that some people are entertained by that kind of porn, but I am not. Frankly, calling me a puss because I won't handle Max puts you on fair ground for me to call you a useless punk with nothing decent to say. We are successful. You are a nobody. Calling me names does not make you somebody. It makes you a bigger loser.

In my opinion, the women of this industry put up with way too much crap from hypcocritical brutish oafs like Scott Lawrence who hate the women that provide them entertainment. I wish someone as intelligent and articulate as Jeanna Fine would come out of retirement and slap on a strap on and f--- them all up the un-lubed asses. Now that would be some good grudge f---ing that we might like to see at www.homegrownvideo.com, where people have sex for fun and pleasure and not self-loathing.

ZJeffrey writes: In which video can we see Julia Ann And Sean Michaels together? I've seen some Adultdiary pictures of "the making of" from this video on your site and want to order it. I've seen only a few pictures are there more available for download or to buy?

Luke says: The pictures have been removed from the AdultDiary.com site and the video was never released. Julia Ann now only does softcore work.

Paul writes: Here's another article by Johnny Sacks, the Chief Rabbi of Britain and the British empire. "Why the West needs Judaism" Who'd make the porn if there were no Jews eh Luke?

Devoto Returns To Find NOTHING Has Changed

Devoto writes: Luke, I have returned from my spiritual sabbatical and decided to check up on your site, as it was (and may now be) one of my favorite ways to pass the time between learning about the philosophical rants of great thinkers (DiGiorgio not included, unfortunately), and working (not sexually oriented, unfortunately). I have found that NOTHING has changed!! What the HELL is going on?? Chaim is STILL concocting ways for you to enter the "mainstream", and you are still rambling on about porn and Judaism!! There is NO controversy on your site whatsoever! Why don't you attempt to find some individuals who would be willing to appear on your radio show to discuss the merits and ethics behind the art of bicycle seat sniffing at local elementary schools?? I believe THAT would create controversy and perhaps generate responses so you would not have to whore out your site and go fishing on net-"pond" for content??

On another note, it is REFRESHING to see that my unique STYLE of writing using CAPS to place emphasis on certain phrases and words has caught on with SOME of your readers!!

Jane writes: Dear Luke, A little bird informed me that DEVOTO had returned to your site today (after pledging to give it all up for more spiritual pursuits) and I noticed he has absolutely nothing new to say! And what concerns me even more is his repeated use of the phrase "the art of bicycle seat sniffing at local elementary schools". I have never heard of this practice before devoto mentioned it, and he has mentioned it many times on your site! I wonder exactly what kind of "spiritual sabbatical" he was on anyway? Please tell me dear readers, under what genre we would find bicycle seat sniffing in the porn shop? Just curious.

Adult Talent Expo 2001

Jay writes: Mailing from the Great White North ... Yes Canada. Have you heard anything about Adult Talent Expo 2001 in Vancouver in conjunction with the West Coast Webmasters Conference ? I've heard little except for tiny little bits the local media has been picking up. Sweet Entertainment Group, who call themselves Canada's largest content provider, are inviting the public to come and meet popular adult film stars such as Jill Kelly, Ginger Lynn Allen, Alisha Klass and Shayla La Vaux. Vivid Video will have 2 contract girls at the show meeting the fans and signing autographs. These guys don't even return the medias phone calls for follow up or confirmation. If anybody knows reality from scam, it is you Luke. Please advise. Signed: Vancouver resident in the dark. PS. It is the best city on the planet 3 out of 4 years running !!!

Luke says: I would expect good things from anything that Sweet Entertainment does.

Earl Miller's wife writes: Sweet Entertainment has Earl signing at their show in Vancouver and he will also have with him the beautiful, sexy and awesome June Penthouse Pet Brianna Banks.

JoeE from CENCash.com writes: As long as Earl's wife isn't standing there yelling: "Earl, don't do this and that!: ;-))) What a beast;-)

Adult Stars Crossing Over

Robert Lombard of Creative Image writes...I had the PLEASURE of meeting Ms.ALexa Rae today for a scheduled producers casting session for our upcoming R rated Feature Films and Half Hour series programs scheduled for production through out the spring and early winter. FOR ALL YOU SKEPTICS, YES "Mainstream"...small step..but the movement is UPward, Here is how it played.. Ms. Rae had 15mins. to prepare the 3page scene. The 'sides' were not sexually oriented or one and two line banter. It was REAL dialog. The feedback from the producer was and I quote.."Attractive-good acting-approved for Supporting Leads or Leads". She showed up 30 minutes prior to her audition in order for us to meet and discuss any and all questions etc. Next came Randy Spears, someone who I have been trying to read for sometime. And who had come highly recommended by Chloe. Well BINGO another solid actor. Next came Keri Windsor. I looked GOOD again. My Executive Producer was waiting to meet Ms. Windsor to fully except and agree to my Casting choice for the Co-Lead in the R rated Feature starting April 9th..SHE GOT THE ROLE. Alittle side note: This session also consisted of other actors and actresses not from the Adult World. Alexa, Randy and Keri were the ONLY ONES who got approval for Supporting Lead and Lead roles. I will not give UP my quest to continue crossing over adult talent to the 'first step'.

Wicked Pictures - Falling Apart At The Seams?

Fear Zeus writes: What is there left to say? First Jenna….now Alexa. Wicked is down to two contract stars with a third on it's way. But the third has been around for years. Not exactly "fresh" new material. What in the wide world of porn is going on in the "cozy" office on Canoga Park?

Steve-O is a great guy….a sweetheart to anyone that knows him. Girls loved working for him. He was courteous, respectful, and a down to earth lovable guy. If you enter his office and you see him for the first time, you think that he is there to assist the President of Wicked pictures for materials, coffee, copies, etc. Then you find out he IS the president of Wicked pictures. He has not changed a bit since back in the days of working in a video shipping warehouse.

So what happened? Has he changed? Has he gotten an inflated ego? The answer is no!! So what's the problem? Why the internal mess? Why the bickering and the eternal conflict within the girls and the staff at Wicked?

The answer is a person who I will not name. But the person knows who he/she is. This person comes with a smile. Tells you hello, and makes you feel liked. But there is no real sincere behind that smile. This person can tell you that you are great, and then curses you out in front of other people the second you walk out the door. This person is in charge…and constantly reminds you of it. If you have an idea and it works, he/she takes the credit. If it bombs, you are reminded that you failed and it's your fault. You are in a constant lose/lose situation.

I'm glad Jenna left…it was long overdue. And Alexa? Well I would leave too if I was constantly told how fat I am and that I need to get into a weight program. And if you recently met Alexa, she has curves that would make Raquel Welch in her prime full of envy. Alexa is a size 1 or 2….. she needs a weight program??? You want to know what "this" person felt was a serious answer to Alexa's "weight problem"? Exact words out of his/her mouth, "She needs to get back on drugs…hell I will even buy it for her!!" Real nice huh? So why this post? What is the purpose of writing this message?

Steve-O deserves better than this. He deserves better professionalism from his "top" people. These people are an extension of him and his Wicked company. If they can't control their actions in the manner that Steve would himself….then they need to get off the ship before they put a hole at the bottom and sink the S.S. Wicked entirely.

Steve, I hope you do read this post and take it seriously. I hope you realize that what I'm saying has truth in it. And although it might be painful for you to rectify this situation, you will do it in the best interest of Wicked pictures. And to the person that I am addressing as the "problem"….underhanded actions never prevails. Life has a way of coming around and giving it back to you 10 times worse…..trust me!!!

Luke says: I hear that Stephanie Swift and Temptress are gone from Wicked. Who is Fear Zeus talking about? Who's on top of the Wicked ladder?

LaWanda Jameson writes: So Wicked is losing their contract stars? Big Deal! Out with the old and in with the new. I am new to the business and am seeking a contract with a major studio that can turn me into the face of porn 2001. I do girl/girl, girl/boy, and anal. You have my permission to forward my photo and email to Mr. Orenstein.

Luke says: I think it is time for Wicked to sign Heather Barron. She can also do script consultation.

RJBT Flips CE The Bird - Debuts Sharky Live April 9

RJB Telcom has hired a big name in webmaster internet radio, Michael "Sharky" Vifquain, to do a new show.

Sharky was fired by Ron Levi's Cybererotica less than a year ago for theft.

RJBT and CE are the two biggest pay site operators in porn. This new show by RJBT strikes me as a big "F-ck You" to Cyberotica.

Alyssa from MaxCash aka RJBT writes on Netpond: Pleased to announce the launch of Max Cash Live!, a bi-weekly internet show focusing on webmaster education. Max Cash Live! will be hosted by the king of internet "radio" shows, Sharky. The show will air every Monday and Thursday with the debut on Monday, April 9th at 8PM EST. Max Cash Live! will be a show BY webmasters FOR webmasters. This show will be all about educating webmasters on every aspect of the adult business. Guests will include experts in every field from content to hosting to sponsors, etc, etc, etc.

Brad Shaw writes on Netpond: Great to see Sharky back on the air, sure miss those old Sharky Live shows, still the best show ever done.

On March 14, Cybererotica announced: CE (Voice Media, Inc.) is pleased to announce that it has reached a resolution with its former employee Michael "Sharky" Vifquain concerning the legal action initiated by VMI in which it alleged various violations of Sharky's employment agreement. As part of the resolution, VMI will receive an undisclosed cash settlement in addition to acquisition of the following websites: tenderamateurs.com; tenderasians.com; tenderebony.com; tenderfetish.com; tenderlatinas.com; tenderlesbians.com; tendervirgins.com; tendervoyeur.com; tendercash.com and tendersupport.com

XXX writes: "Did you see how Ron Levi headlined his email to webmasters earlier this week as "The Humbling Of Cybererotica." Levi allowed his ego to get out of hand and he started paying people more money than he could for some of his programs. He'd pay out $50, more than he could afford for signups. So now it is down to $40 and expect other to follow suit by reducing their payouts.

"How can other programs pay out $40 for people who sign up for $3:95 trials? Fifty percent of those people don't convert. The only way you can do this is by shaving, by not counting signups.

"We're headed for another realignment of the adult internet industry. CE started out at two cents per raw click, then three cents per unique. Then CE starting paying out according to the productivity of the traffic. But CE found out that webmasters could abuse even this with phony credit cards. So now CE has gone to paying out per active member.

"Many webmaster affiliate programs haven't even moved to the per active model. And with what they pay for credit card processing and charge backs and charge back fines, they are in trouble. We didn't have these expenses a year ago. Webmasters are scrubbing their credit card databases harder which makes it harder to get signups.

"CE may lose ten percent on April 1, when the new lower payouts go into effect. But the traffic will come back when webmasters realize how unreliable the other programs are.

"Don't expect FM (Ron Levi) try to match these crazy $75 and $100 per signup offerings. Just like FM let Xpics rule the roost for a while with their 18c per click payouts.

"Did you see that post by Tom Blanchard on Netpond? Tom used to own NationalNet, the hosting company, until he sold it to Tony."

Tom Blanchard writes on Netpond: I have great respect for FM but I personally do not like him worth a damn. His e-mail cutting rates and offering the reasons why was a class move on his part. I really do not think we will see much of a domino effect as there are few sponsors with that much class and how would they explain the f---ing that they have been giving us for so long?

FM wrote "CyberErotica's motto is where Fantasy Meets Reality. Our vision in the past 5 years has made literally thousands of Webmasters millions of dollars".

I am so sick of hearing that crap from FM and other sponsors. What he should be saying is over the years webmasters have made much money while making him millions of dollars. He is not in this business, nor any other sponsor, for the benevolence of mankind. I haven't heard any plans for the Pope to name a Saint Levi of Diamond Bar.

XXX says: "CE's margins, and CEN's and RJBT's profit margins are not grand. At least Levi gave webmasters a couple of weeks notice on his lower payouts.

"CE and RJBT no longer exchange as much traffic as they used to.

"The webmaster posting boards used to be for business. But Rick Muenyong from YNOT did away with that kind of stuff and turned it into a social event. Everybody got mesmorized like a snake charmer, so that when somebody would post about their program, it was regarded as spam.

"Does everybody really want to be buddies? We're probably the only industry where the fiercest and biggest competitors do a lot of business together.

"Tony from NationalNet, a prince, gave Ron Levi some VIP passes to his Club Humor at the January AVN Expo. While Ron sits in an executive sweet, Samantha Lee, VP of Operations at InsiteAdult.com (formerly of YNOT) walks by, sees the CE logo on the door, and says, 'Oooh, I'm staying away from there. I can't stand him.' Ron walked out he was so offended.

"InsiteAdult.com, owned by John Epp, are buddies with RJBT. So goes RB, so goes Insite. Insite seems to believe that Levi snitched on RJBT to the Federal Trade Commission.

"Samantha's boyfriend Skinny Phillip Arumbula (premierpornpics.com) ripped off Levi for hundreds of thousands of dollar with the help of Sharky. That's why Sam doesn't like Ron Levi.

"Levi mentored Skinny Phillip, got him into DMR [credit card processor] and his own pay sites. And then one day he stopped coming into Levi's office and started visiting Sharky. And Phillip started cutting Sharky checks back.

"Levi fired Pattycake a few months ago and she went to work for Rosecash.com, owned by a Canadian. She had her heart broken by years ago by Tarbash, aka Scott Allen Baldwin, the ARS webmaster accused of murder.

"Marc DeForest was with a girl. They were engaged to be married, and then suddenly Marc's showing up at the show with Kimmy Kim. Marc recently sold his paysites to Michelle in Canada. Probably because of fears of the new Attorney General John Ashcroft. Birds of a feather - DeForest and Michelle - flock together.

"Michelle used to be partners in UltraCash.com with Jim Barnett. Michelle screwed Jim over and Jim moved on to CE.

"Marc DeForest from ARS used to own BreathlessBoys.com. Then he came out with LiveBoyToys, a live gay feed which offered three different packages. One low cost to get in, then two upsells. And the two larger packages, he put in his house account code instead of the webmaster code. So webmasters didn't get credit for the upsells.

"Levi exposed that on YNOT and DeForest went away for a year or so, then came back strong with AdultRevenueService.com, which is now number two in the traffic rankings among adult sites.

"ARS is paying over $40 per signup on paid trials ($4 pay trials). I don't know how they can. That business model doesn't work. Or are they getting creative?

"ARS has benefitted the most from RJBT's problems. And ARS has now surpassed them and CE in the PCData traffic rankings. CE's programs are CGI run, which means that PCData don't pick up its real numbers."

Veronica Snake writes: I see you really don't have the balls to post anything derogitory about your master. But I think you should at least clarify your totally ignorant post about ARS being bigger than CE or RJBT You know this one

"ARS has benefitted the most from RJBT's problems. And ARS has now surpassed them and CE in the PCData traffic rankings. CE's programs are CGI run, which means that PCData don't pick up its real numbers."

Those numbers are comparing all 1500 of ARS's sites to Cybererotica or Kara's alone, throw in all of Ron's or RB's sites into the pot and ARS is not even close. s--- Luke do a little research.

On The Set Of VCA's Succubus

I spent Sunday on the set of James DiGiorgio's latest epic Succubus.

I spoke with veteran porn screenwriter and director Jace Rocker.

Jace: "I did about 18 shows for Metro. And it seemed that every time I did a show for them, I got [verbally] beat up afterwards. Always some kind of nitpicking.

"There was somebody at Metro who had a thing about power. No matter what you did, it was never good enough. Even when I did these great shows that got great reviews and awards... You'd walk in the office and get nitpicked to death."

Jim DiGiorgio to Jace: "Don't say anything you're going to regret. He takes it down word for word."

Luke to Jace: "Did you get paid on time?"

Jace laughs. "I got paid. It was an experience that I wouldn't want to do again."

Luke: "Did they ever threaten you and your family?"

Jace laughs: "No."

Jim wonders at the comparatively good relationship between Jace and his ex-wife Britt Morgan, the former porn star.

Jim: "I can barely be in the same state as my ex-wife."

Jace: "Britt and I had a strong relationship. If anything, us working in the pornography business made it stronger. There were outside influences..."

Britt: "He rode in with me on my naked back."

Britt laughs. "He hates that line."

Britt and Jace exchange barbs throughout the day.

Jace: "I created her. I made her everything she is."

Jim to Britt: "Does he have a way of subtly making you feel less than you are? Because he did that to me last night."

Jace: "I created this monster."

Jim: "Ask me how I know Jace won five awards.

"Last night when it was late and I was shooting... I said to him, 'This is the last time I write a 36-page script.' And Jace shrugged and said, 'Most of my scripts are 52 pages. And I just bang them out in three days no problem.'

"I just stood there looking at him and he goes, 'Well, you know I've won five AVN Awards for Best Screenwriter.'"

Rob Spallone: "Then Jim got under the blanket and went to bed."

Jim: "Then I went back into the room. And the door was closed. But I was still able to walk under it with no problem at all."

Jim's sets are usually fun places to be with lots of banter.

Jim: "Herschel [Savage] has been nominated 4000 times in his 47 years in the business and he's never won."

Rob: "But he's always on time."

Laughter.

Jim: "I'm not a young guy. [Jim's 52.] But how often do I get to direct a guy in a porn scene who I jerked off to in high school?

"This is part of my building his character for today's character. Because he becomes a beaten man in this movie. He gets his life turned inside out. This is my method as a director to destroy his ego and bring him down to the level he belongs at...

"Herschel says I will never win an AVN Award because, like him, AVN doesn't like me."

Herschel: "You're not politically correct in their mind."

Rob: "Am I politically correct?"

Herschel: "People believe you have power. We, on the other hand, know that you have none. You're the master illusionist. You're Houdini."

Luke to Jace: "You said New Sensations gave you everything you needed. What did you need?"

Jace: "The budget to do a period piece, a '40s show. They were easy to work with. Whatever I needed as far as props, wardrobe... And Renee, our production manager, was incredible. I'm editing it now."

Luke: "What do you mainly do these days?"

Jace: "I own my own camera package, so I rent that out often. I'm doing all kinds of things. I'm doing [non-porn] documentary work. I direct once or twice a month...

"I entered the industry in 1986. I had a friend who was a writer who started working on a video magazine type show. I have a music and radio background. He wanted me to work with him. I came out here from Texas to do that. Britt came with me. While I was doing that, she was busy meeting people. Next thing I know she's doing magazines and video work. She did all the magazines - Hustler, Club...

"Doing this was like going to film school. Porn University. PU."

Luke: "And when do you graduate?"

Jace: "I think that I am way past graduating. I have reached the point now where I'm an old grizzled professor and I'm bringing along the young ones and teaching them."

Luke: "You came in when the budgets started to plunge."

Jace: "That was ok. Because if someone gave you $12,000 instead of $30,000, it didn't bother you so much. There wasn't so much pressure. And if you have any creativity and imagination, you can do a cute little show and see what happens. I always had a lot of good luck. I was able to write comedy and people thought it was good."

Luke: "How well do you think that comedy can work in a pornographic medium? Isn't the purpose of this for guys to masturbate?"

Jace: "That's why comedy works [in porn]. Because as a society, we're taught to be uptight about sex. We're taught to feel guilty about sex. If you keep light hearted and make people laugh and feel good because they're laughing, then they let their inhibitions go. If a guy tries to get a girl to watch a movie, and he puts on a dark vicious movie, she's not going to be turned on. But if you put in a movie where she laughs in the first two or three minutes, she's going to lighten up.

"The first thing a woman always says about a guy is, 'I like him because he has a good sense of humor.' While guys always say, 'She's got great tits.' You see women with guys who aren't attractive, and you ask, 'Why are you with this guy?' And that's what they always say.

"A sense of humor means something to women. They want to feel that they can laugh and have fun with you.

"When I was a kid and I looked at Playboy magazine, the first thing you do is to go to the centerfold. You open the centerfold up and there's a gorgeous babe. You look on the other side of the centerfold and there's jokes.

"The only other person in the category I write is Johnathan Morgan. When he first started writing, I schooled him in what I was doing. And he learned a few things. He has his own style too.

"My whole thing about a script... I hate to read a script where it's just a bunch of words to fill up a page. Ok, now we have a script. That's bull. If you're writing something in the script that is not connected to something later in the script, then it has no reason to live. The words that these people are saying has to be building a story or plot, or leading to a punchline. I read scripts every day that are just a bunch of words and I think, 'This is a waste of time. People don't want to hear this.'

"I work as a video tech... The script is handed to me at the beginning of each day to see whether it's worth the effort."

Britt Morgan divorced Jace Rocker in 1992 and married a man twice her age in Texas. She returned to porn for the first time in February and rented a room from Jace, who appears still besotted with her.

Herschel Savage is engaged to be married to former Private contract girl Wanda Curtis, a tall slender Hungarian.

Jim DiGiorgio says he'd have a big problem if his daughter did porn.

Luke: "But you're shooting other people's daughters all the time?"

Jim: "That's those people's problem, not mine."

Rob to Jim: "What would happen if some fathers came in here and kicked the living s--- out of you?"

Jim: "I would have to accept that."

Rob to Bridgett Kerkove: "Jim's saying that if your father walked in here and killed everybody in the room, that he'd [Bridgett's dad] would go to trial and win."

Jim: "I would have to accept that. I believe that would be his right. That's not saying that she doesn't have the right to do what she wants to do, but as a father, I understand where he's coming from."

Kyle Stone, male porn performer, says: "How's this for a prediction? I hope it doesn't happen. But one of these days, somebody is going to walk up to Max Hardcore and say 'You're Max Hardcore.' And he's going to say, 'Yes, I am.' And the guy's going to pull out a gun and say, 'Do that to my f---ing daughter,' and he's going to plug him."

Jim: "Or wife or sister or whatever..."

Kyle: "He's going to pop his ass. And two seconds before that, Max is going to think, 'Oh, another fan.' Then the last thing he's going to see is a barrel."

Jim: "I believe that."

Kyle: "I've seen some s--- that went down. And if that happened to my sister..."

Rob: "What if a guy went up to you and said, 'You shot a load all over my daughter's face.'"

Kyle: "I'd say, 'Talk to the director, man. I have no idea who the f--- that was. I do that s--- all day long man."

Dynamite's husband Gary adds: "I'd look at the guy and say, 'Which one was your daughter? Cocksocket or check number 1643?"

Kyle: "I've got the feeling that that's going to happen to Max. I'm surprised that something hasn't happened already. If I was him, I'd have bodyguards 24/7. I'd not walk around by myself."

One of the PA's is the meanest scariest Hispanic I've seen in years. On his back he sports a tattoo which reads, "Today I kill, Tomorrow I'm King."

Another PA sports a black T-shirt which reads "f--- you, you f---ing f---."

I talk to Don Hollywood, a male performer in his 50s who mainly works as a criminal defense lawyer under his real name Ron Miller. I asked Ron if his porn work interfered with his profession. Did his clients mind his porn work?

Ron: "Water seeks its own level. People are more comfortable with someone who is more open minded..."

Jim: "Or as flawed as they are."

Ron: "Or as twisted and sick as they are."

Luke: "What about judges and other lawyers?"

Ron: "I don't wear a sign around my neck. If the subject comes up and I'm asked. Yes, I've had one judge ask me in chambers after seeing me in a movie on Playboy or Spice. I said, 'With all due respect, your honor, if you were watching, where's the problem?'

"That's why I started Erotica LA. Because so many other lawyers asked me, 'Can you get me a video? Can you get me this or that?' They knew I was involved in a couple of adult web sites.

"I got attacked heavily in my last divorce for what I was doing. The case was heard by a judge I'd known for some 20 odd years, only on a professional level. My ex's attorney tried to push the point that I was a pornagrapher, that I did scenes, that I lived with a porn star... And the judge said, 'Yeah, what's your point?'

"It doesn't affect my parenting abilities. My home, Brooke's and mine, is cleaner from a standpoint of adult material than the house I grew up in, which was a nice middle-class Jewish home. My father, may he rest in peace, had Playboy magazine in the late 1950s. You won't find that at our house. We have locked file cabinets. We have locked storage cabinets. All of Brooke's videos and awards were locked away."

Luke, gesturing at a scantily clad Brooke Hunter, the buxom blonde fiance of Ron Miller's, asks: "Is this how she dresses around the house?"

Ron: "Yes, that's how she does the dishes. Of course not Luke. I think you know that the people in the industry, when they're not working, are just like anybody else. She pulls her hair back in a ponytail, she throws on a pair of jeans and a pair of tennis shoes, and we act normally. We took off from the set yesterday with three or four hours to kill, and we went shopping. We bought a picture to hang in our dining room."

Luke: "Do your kids know you do scenes?"

Ron: "My oldest, who's 33..."

Luke: "How old are you?"

Ron: "I'm too old to answer that question. I have a 33-year old son and a three year old granddaughter. And my youngest is seven. And my oldest PAs for me when I shoot. He is very conservative and extremely monogamous but he doesn't cast any judgement. I guess he's grown up with a crazy father for so long... On his 21st birthday, he got a new Harley Davidson [motorcycle]. We rode together for years.

"He's grown up with some disadvantages. Because of the people I represented when my firm was big made it easy for me to look at him and say, 'You're stoned.' And we nipped it in the bud when he was 14. That was a road he didn't go down. Only because he saw friends of his that I represented, the older brothers and sisters, and that made an impression.

"My daughter is seven. My stepson I raised from age two to age twelve. Until his mother decided it was necessary to describe to him in graphic detail what Brooke and I do, as far as scenes are concerned. So right now, I don't have much contact with him. Who knows, when I am 16 or 17, I may be the most popular stepdad in the neighborhood."

Luke: "How many times you been married?"

Ron: "Three times."

Jim DiGiorgio prepares to do walk throughs.

Rob kids: "We did rehearsals all last week."

Jim: "We rehearsed for an hour last night."

I join in progress a conversation between Kyle Stone and Ron Miller, deploring the popularity of pretty boys with the producers of heterosexual porn.

Kyle: "I represent the guys at home. People always say to me, 'You have the greatest job in the world.' Yeah, I have a fantastic job, but don't forget, it's still a job. I'm not there to have sex for myself.

"That's the difference between me and these new guys who are so concerned about how they look. Are you catching me in the right light? Guy, it's not about you. It's about the girl. This business is based on the women and how they look. You should be more concerned about how she looks in the scene and getting your ass out of the picture. You know my theme for every scene that I do, 'More her, less me.' Because if I see it, I don't want to see myself. I want to see the girl."

Ron: "At the first Erotica LA at the Hollywood Paladium, Ron Jeremy is with me, and Tabitha Stevens, Missy, MickeyG... Two fire trucks pull up the side street and yell, 'Ronnie. Ronnie.' They wanted Ron Jeremy's autograph. They didn't look at the girls. He's the icon of porn.

"The guys at home watching TV are watching over the same potbelly that I watch it over."

Kyle: "What kills me is that I've been told that there's a list over at The Erotic Network, the TEN channel, that there's a list of 13 guys they don't want because they're not pretty enough. And I'm on the list."

Ron: "Roy Karch won't shoot me because his stuff goes to Playboy."

Kyle: "Playboy loves me."

Ron: "I say, 'Roy, what about the parts that are for a senator or a business professional.' I can show up in a three piece suit and I look like I belong in a three piece suit and I've been wearing it for years. Just like how Dave Cummings pulls it off."

Jace has written and directed over 100 porn films.

Jace performed sex in a few scenes with his wife.

Jace: "When you start, it's all new. You feel like you're going to reinvent the wheel. She wanted me to do it. It was like, if I do this, then I'll belong to the club. It wasn't like that at all. Once I got to know the guys in the crew and became one of the guys, there's no way I'm going to show my naked butt to those guys."

Luke to Britt: "What happened to you? Did you go away for a few years, like the movie Frances."

Jace: "Her story was more like The Burning Bed, where she sets an abusive husband on fire. She came home one day to find her husband with a young Mexican boy..."

Luke: "Do you and Jace platonically make love?"

Britt: "No. He keeps his life separate and I keep my life separate. We have different tastes."

Britt giggles: "I do whoever has my phone number."

Jace: "She's just testing the waters now. She doesn't know which direction she may be headed.

"She's a lot of fun."

Luke: "How much fun is she?"

Jace: "More fun than a barrel of monkeys. Emphasis on monkey. Because if she's around, you're usually spanking your own.

"It's a double edged sword. If you have history with someone, the woman has the power of the yes and no. She's the one that says this is where it's going and that's as far as it goes. And as a guy, you say, 'If you say so. That's where I want to go to."

Britt: "I read this boy's site. If you say anything s---ty about me, I'm looking the doors."

Jace: "You're already locking the doors."

We trade wisecracks.

Jace: "You'll have to read between the lines. I want to keep my nuts."

Britt: "I don't tell the truth. I'm a liar honey."

Luke: "You must feel right at home in this business then."

Britt: "That's not true. Some of the best I've ever known are in this business."

Luke: "Like who?"

Britt: "Everybody. All my friends are in this business. Nina Hartley, Keisha, Jeanna Fine. These people are all my friends. They are the reason that I stayed in this business as long as I did. Who better to have sex with than your friends?"

I meet gay porn director Gino Colbert (Sam Shaft) who entered porn as a sex performer in the 1970s. He still looks like a kid. Now he mainly shoots homosexual porn, though he recently shot a couple of hetero movies - Wet Panties (Jane Hamilton), Looking For Mr Big (Gloria Leonard).

Gino says Sidney Niekirk, the Dutch Jew, does his duplication.

Gino brought Joe Sarno out of retirement at age 79 to shoot the hetero movies.

I meet Nakita Denise, a 24-year old from the Czech Republic. She's accompanied by her friend Karl, also Czech. She's tall, dark and beautiful with natural breasts and a natural smile.

In America for a year, she's appeared in about 100 movies. She lived in Canada for two years previously, where Nakita met Jill Kelly who recommended her to Jim South.

Nakita: "Best movies? Very interesting was the 12 guy gangbang I did for Elegant Angel.

"When I watched porno movies in Europe, I thought about getting into porno. But it is hard to start in the Czech Republic. It's much easier here. Because here is the place."

Kyle Stone says: "For Chloe's interactive DVD, and they wanted to do a scene where she was doing a guy in the ass. It was shot over my back, with her going, 'Yeah, take it up the...' Now I don't know what guy renting her video would want that..."

Jace: "How much money did it cost them to humiliate you like that?"

Kyle: "No money at all. If I thought it was going to humiliate you, I wouldn't do it."

Britt: "That's a lie. You're here."

Kyle: "I don't consider this to be humiliation other than what the crew says to me. I like what I do. And I don't do anything that I don't feel comfortable doing."

Luke: "Would you feel comfortable taking a penis up your anus?"

Kyle: "Yes, I would feel very uncomfortable.

"Extreme called me up. There was a prince role in that Days of Whore. And he was a gay prince. And there was to be a guy simulating giving him head. And Tommy Byron called me up and asked me if I would do it. I said yes. And he said, 'You know there's going to be a guy simulating giving you a blowjob.' And I said, 'Simulating yes. But no guy is going to touch me.' That's acting. I was comfortable with it because I am comfortable with my sexuality. I know what I am into."

Herschel Savage says he's really impressed when Lexington Steele says he went from a stockbroker on Wall Street to porno star, and when Ron Miller attorney turned into Don Hollywood porn star. Good move.

Rob Spallone talks with makeup lady Marianne Walters aka the ex-porn star Kelly Nichols about the massage he received Saturday.

Rob: "The guy put his hands on my ass."

XXX: "And you freaked."

Marianne: "No, he fell asleep. That's how comfortable he was."

Luke: "Tell me about the massage Rob."

Rob: "The guy touched my ass. I've been to masseuse with ladies who don't touch my ass when I wanted them to touch my ass. The guy massaged my ass."

Luke: "Did you like it?"

Rob: "No I didn't like it. But the guys was good. Marianne warned me beforehand.

"A girl [porn star] robbed me for $8500 last year. I don't know who it is. I found out a few months later who it was. This guy called up, 'Rob, I'm going to tell you who it was. But you have to promise me to not do nothing.' I gave him my word. I can't do nothing. And I've had to see the girl twice since then. I got my money back. She robbed my checks. It took two months for the bank to reimburse me.

"So Marianne asked me to be very nice to the gay masseuse. I gave you my word that I wouldn't flip out."

I meet Dino Bravo, who looks and sounds like a young Dean Martin. He croons old songs into my tape recorder. "You must remember this, a kiss is still a kiss."

Dino: "I've done 19 scenes and only missed on two. I could've made it but the other guy popped and I don't know what happened. I don't use viagra but the other guy, a 20-year old kid, says that he uses it all the time. I found something out about using viagra - people's faces get all flushed and red. The other one was in a fraternity house with 40 people watching me and hooting... And it was my first scene with a rubber."

Rob: "Dino don't do scenes. He's just a singer. You're my journalist and he's my singer."

Gary: "Web sites are a nightmare. These guys like to collect that money but they don't like to pay it out. Danielle's last site was up for three years and she was robbed blind. She didn't see any money. She got three checks. We've found out the guy collected over $60,000 the last three years."

Kid Vegas's ex-girlfriend KC lives with Gary and Dynamite.

Gary: "KC's our girlfriend. She lives with us. She's a nice girl. He's nothing but a punk."

Luke: "Why did she get involved with him?"

Gary: "He's really good at manipulation and KC's extremely submissive. She's got a beautiful heart and is very sharing and giving."

I meet Trevor who's done 130 movies and operates the web site VideoSexgirl.com.

Trevor: "I do editing, camera. I've got a Sony VX 2000, just like they are using today. Gary's got me a lot of working shooting."

Britt to Rob Spallone: "You're a geek magnet."

Rob: "How many f---ing retards have I had over the years. They come out of the woodwork. Homeless people come and I let them live in the place. Dead Dave the mechanic. Sal Sodano. Bobby Gallagher says he was here last week."

Dynamite comes into the room giggling. She's just fluffed Kyle Stone.

Dynamite: "Kyle forgot how good I can suck a dick. Kyle went limp because they stopped so I fluffed him."

Luke: "Do you want to give Gary a big kiss?"

Gary: "NO!"

Dynamite: "Come here cutie..."

Gary: "On the back of the head."

Luke: "Why won't you kiss her on the lips?"

Gary: "Because she just got done blowing Kyle Stone."

Dynamite: "I'm not getting another kiss off him until I brush my teeth. It is a good thing I've got another tooth brush on me today."

Rob: "Close the door."

Dynamite: "I'm going back out. They may need my help again."

Luke: "Your wife is very helpful."

Gary: "She's extremely friendly, yes."

Luke: "A highly trained professional."

Gary: "A giver."

Dynamite wears an unzipped pair of leather pants. She feels too bloated to zip them up. She's put on about 20 pounds in the last year.

I hang out in the makeup room with the girls talking about dance costumes.

Bridgett Kerkove: "I don't want to spend money to make money. I just want to make money."

Rob calls his kids. He asks one boy how was practice.

Boy: "It sucked dick."

Rob: "Little bastards. They hung up on me."

I talk to slight blonde Ava Vincent.

Ava: "I love the Hungarian look. I think those are the most gorgeous girls in the world."

Luke: "What's your creative vision for this scene, Mr Spallone?"

Rob: "Whatever they create. You're going to tell a girl how to have sex?"

Ava: "I was supposed to do Julie [Meadows, VCA contract girl] but Julie's straight [Julie doesn't do girls]. So they had to rearrange so that I would still have the same number of scenes."

Luke: "You do guys, right?"

Ava: "Yes."

Rob: "Something tells me that she'll do anything. That innocent looking girl over there that you wouldn't even think would do porn will do just about anything."

Ava giggles. "And why do you think that?"

Rob: "I have my reasons."

Ava: "Yeah. Because of my boyfriend [John Decker]?"

Rob: "Nice guy, but crazy? Yes."

Ava: "He's crazy in every way."

Luke: "How long have you been with John?"

Ava: "Since last summer."

I met John Decker in May of 1997 when he was married to Roxanne Hall. They divorced soon after and he began living with Mia Smiles, who now does escort work (Exotica2000.com).

Ava: "I'm playing a Succubus who used to seduce men and women to suck their souls. I come after Herschel Savage and I proceed to seduce him. His character is much like a Michael Douglas character who ends up f---ing some girl and she comes after him to haunt him. I proceed to seduce his wife, but since it's Julie Meadows and she's straight, I f--- her through him. So it looks like he's f---ing her. He's having sex with Julie but she looks up in the mirror occasionally and she sees that it is me f---ing her and not him."

Luke: "How did you get into this industry?"

Ava: "I worked for an adult bookstore [Suzie's Adult Bookstores] in Sacramento. I was a clerk. I was a theater major and I was going to come down to LA and try acting. But before I was able to do that, I needed a job in the interim. I was completely shy and inhibited and it opened up new things for me. So I decided that that [porn] was something I wanted to try. I met Samantha Style and that's how I did my first movie - for Seymore Butts."

Born in Placerville, Ava attended East Union High School in Manteca.

Ava: "I'm from really small towns. I didn't even live in Manteca. Manteca was the big town. I lived in French Camp. Eight people live there. I grew up on the farms around the cows."

Luke: "I went to Water World in Manteca."

Ava: "Yes, that's the big thing in Manteca."

Rob storms in and says to Dino Bravo: "Can you jerk off?"

Dino: "Yes."

Rob: "Get in there."

Ron Miller aka Don Hollywood apparently hurt his penis and they need a stunt cock.

Rob: "The rubber snapped and hit his penis and it ain't gonna work."

Ava says that she's discussed signing as a contract girl with Sin City but nothing's official yet. Even though Sin City once put out an announcement that they had signed her before she ever got close to writing her name on the dotted line.

Ava: "My favorite movies have been for Sin City."

Jim DiGiorgio bursts in: "How many times has she said that Jim DiGiorgio is her favorite director?"

Ava: "The nicest thing about Michael Raven is that he takes chances on roles. He does very edgy characters, which is what I like. A lot of porn is housewife with a midlife crisis. I like serial killers. I like really dark deep edgy dramatic things. And the things I've done for Michael Raven have been closest to what I like. I've done Adrenalin and Limbo and Underworld. He saw me at one point and he could see that I could play an evil character. He knows me too well."

Ava giggles. "But most people usually put me in the sweet innocent roles."

Rob protests the naked porners walking through the room.

Rob: "There's no reason for it. For what reason do you need to walk around naked? What am I, a f---ing pervert?"

Luke to Ava: "What's your favorite song?"

Ava: "This is Music by The Verve. They're from England. Their largest hit was Bittersweet Symphony. They're like U2."

Luke: "I've heard of U2."

Ava: "That's a good thing. I'd have to worry about you."

Britt: "Do you get laid much?"

Luke: "No. Only one woman in the last 18 months."

Ava: "That's not very much.

"I get to have sex with a beautiful woman. I met her on [Playboy's] Sex Court. She's done a bunch of layouts.

"I'm the new stenographer on the show. I sit there and pretend to use the stenographer's typewriter. And the bailiff Alexandra Silk comes and distracts me... I'm an ornament."

Scott Lawrence writes: Gino Colbert also does a lot of articles and reviews for Cult Movies magazine. You mention the aka Sam Shaft-is Gino the black guy who takes it up the ass by strap-on wielding porn sluts in Glitz videos?

Luke says: No.