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Wednesday, February 14th, 2001

What's Up With RJB Telcom?

Elton writes on Netpond: Hey any one notice whats up with maxcash? none of their sites say RJBT Incorporated.. any more karas says. 2000-2001 Crowngate International Inc and most of their other sites say Copyright 2000-2001 Greensted Commercial Corp. whats the story with this?

Chad writes: I swear Luke, sometimes you can be so clueless. The issues of Crowngate and Greensted is an old one. It has been brought up and answered several times over on the Max Cash board. You might want to ask yourself who owns those companies. Many companies have changed their info over the past few months just to be safe. Take a look at the whois for siccash.com - Did Brad Shaw sell his company to Global Internet Unlimited? Or is this just normal, smart business? Must be a slow news day if you are putting this at the top of your page.

Luke asks: Why is this good business?

Chad writes: No idea why they do it.. maybe for added security? I know of lots of normal companies that are owned by another company that is owned by another company - all with the same owners.. good question to ask a lawyer..

Luke says: FIRST: go to karasxxx.com and you get: Copyright © 2000-2001 Crowngate International Inc. THEN click on their privacy statement. You get: Privacy Policy Statement This site is licensed to Greensted Commercial Corp. Our postal address is 11083 Prospect Road Cleveland, OH 44136 We can be reached via e-mail at webmaster@greenstedcom.com

ALSO: note that the server IP address is the same on both these domains ... Has RJBT been sold? Or are they using another address so they can get new credit card merchant accounts?

Maxcash.com is still: Copyright © 1996-2000 RJBT Incorporated. All rights reserved.

Domain Name: GREENSTEDCOM.COM

Registrar: TUCOWS.COM, INC.
Whois Server: whois.opensrs.net
Referral URL: www.opensrs.org
Name Server: NS2.NATIONAL-NET.COM
Name Server: NS1.NATIONAL-NET.COM Updated Date: 20-dec-2000

Note the name server is same as all three RJBT sites.

Note: This traceroute shows greenstedcom.com terminating at Level 3's Phoenix hosting facility ... RJBT is in Phoenix, right?

Ok, the plot thickens:

CROWNGATE INTERNATIONAL, INC.
11083 Prospect Road
CLEVELAND, OH 44149 US
440 238 4466 fax: 123 123 1234

The fax number is obviously bogus.

So we search on Crowngate International:

http://www.anywho.com/
Business Search Results on: CROWNGATE INTERNATIONAL, INC , Cleveland , OH
No Listings Found

http://www.anywho.com/
Home Search by Phone #
We were unable to find a match to the phone number you entered.

http://www.555-1212.com/Rev.jsp
Reverse Address Lookup
No results were found

NOTE THAT THE ADDRESS THEY GAVE IS *NOT* IN CLEVELAND, BUT SOME DISTANCE (20 miles) AWAY in Strongsville, OH

If you call the admin contact number, you get an answering machine for "Gatefold productions."

Registrant: Michael Mihalko (GATEFOLD-DOM)
15286 Pearl Road
Strongsville, OH 44136 US
Domain Name: GATEFOLD.COM
Administrative Contact, Billing Contact: Mihalko, Mike (MM7024) wizofid@EN.COM Stealth Logic, LLC. 11083 Prospect Road Cleveland, OH 44136 440 238-4466

Technical Contact: Domain Administrator (DA9434-ORG) admin@NATIONAL-NET.COM NationalNet, Inc. 3588 Highway 138 SE Suite 318 Stockbridge , GA 30281 US 404-899-6001 Record last updated on 18-Sep-2000. Record expires on 08-Sep-2001. Record created on 07-Sep-1996. Database last updated on 14-Feb-2001 10:18:16 EST. Domain servers in listed order: NS1.NATIONAL-NET.COM 216.99.40.3 NS2.NATIONAL-NET.COM 216.99.40.4

Note: The IP address is the same host as for KarasXXX.com.

ANd FROM: http://www.gatefold.com/privacy.html LEGAL WARNING AND DISCLAIMER Privacy Policy Statement

This is the main web site of Gatefold Productions. Our postal address is 11083 Prospect Road Cleveland, OH 44136 We can be reached via e-mail at admin@gatefold.com Or you can reach us by telephone at 440-238-4466

For each visitor to our Web page, our Web server automatically recognizes no information regarding the domain or e-mail address. We collect information volunteered by the consumer, such as survey information and/or site registrations. The information we collect is used to notify consumers about updates to our Web site and not shared with other organizations for commercial purposes. If you supply us with your postal address on-line you will only receive the information for which you provided us your address. Please provide us with your exact name and address. We will be sure your name is removed from the list we share with other organizations. Persons who supply us with their telephone numbers on-line may receive telephone contact from us with information regarding orders they have placed on-line. Please provide us with your correct phone number. We will be sure your name is removed from the list we share with other organizations. Gatefold Productions is in no way affiliated with Playboy Enterprises. MAIN PAGE (c) 1998 Gatefold Productions, Inc. You must be of LEGAL age to continue.

So, Crowngate must be Gatefold. The address is the same.

Who is Michael Mihalko?

XXX says: "MikeFold.. everyone (except you I guess) knows him. Very good guy and close friends with RB and most people in the biz."

He appears to be the webmaster for Playboy Playmate Terri Welles. Check out: http://terriwelles.com/order_01.htm

So, why is changing your company name smart business?

And this is more than just a name change. They (RJBT) are implying that greensted/crowngate owns or is licensing the sites? And why this just after the FTC stipulation? It's not like they've been changing their name every six months for the past five years.

Dravyk replies to Luke on Netpond:

>Who is Michael Mihalko?

* joining in the chorus of laughter * !!!

"Luke, you ignorant slut!!!"

LMAO!!!

>>> "The plot thickens ....

" LOL!! No, Luke, only your head thickens!!!

PetrA writes on Netpond: "Sherlock, I also use National Net's nameservers. Does that mean RB secretly owns my sites? Hey, maybe RB owns ALL sites using National Net's nameservers! How about that?"

KK writes on Netpond: "Michael Mihalko, formerly known as SweetT and identical twin to both RB and BobB, is the owner of several aibo dogs that secretly own all the RJB sites. Since these dogs can carry own a conversation, due to RJB's timely purchase of dustys bbs software years ago, no one named Sherlock has yet realized that he is only talking to himself since no one else gives a f--- who owns what except him."

AlienX@SinCityFilms.com writes on Netpond: "I love it when companies are made up with strange, elusive detail's! I know of another business [Xpics?] a few years back that got in trouble with the FTC. I dare not say it... However It changed it's identity entirely on the net and guess what? It really works! Multiple company names in the adult business is nothing new at all, it's perfect for smoke screen's and duping people into supporting the same business under a different name. It's simple, people are inherently stupid and lazy and thus are doomed to forget."

Diamond Jim responds on Netpond: "Alien, I hope that post wasn't meant to defame MaxCash, you f---ing idiot."

Alien replies on Netpond: ""defame"? Sounds kinda lawyerish... I just thought it an interesting topic. Considering what I have been reading here today. Did ya know the Catholics wanted to shut everyone up at one point in history, and banned education except to it's high priests? Prevented people from speaking out about things they see and read? Resorted to mass killings to achieve it's goals? Look how fast everyone forgot those times. Truly it is sad."

Diamond Jim replies: "Another nonsense post brought to you by - Alien Shouldn't you be getting a blowjob in a dumpster somewhere about now?"

Frank writes: Here's a post off the Maxcash message board from today ... looks like RJBT wants to diss anybody who asks the question:

Anonymous asks: "I assume there is a resonable explanation that will cause us all no worry, but why do maxcash sites now say: (two examples...) Copyright © 2000-2001 Crowngate International Inc. (karas) or Copyright © 2000-2001 Greensted Commercial Corp. (asian pleasures)"

Alyssa from MaxCash.com, an RJBT company, replies: anon ~ You are way behind on the curve This was addressed in many other threads and RB's answer was as follows:

"When it comes to matters involving my company, things that do not concern the program or the resellers who use the program, I do not need to discuss every business deal or other in a public forum. Everything remains the same...Nothing to see here :) RB"

This was a direct reply to someone questioning the Crowngate name.

Frank writes Luke: "RB... Isn't he an arrogant SOB?"

From February 9 edition of the MaxCash board:

Daft writes: I've noticed going thru the tour of Kara's Adult Playground that it now says, "Copyright © 2000-2001 Crowngate International Inc. All rights reserved. " at the bottom. What happened to RJB Telcom?

Scott writes: "Folks, this is kind of old news. (Although, we still haven't heard what it's about...that I know of.) I think bloodlust was the first to mention it: And it's been mentioned in about a dozen other posts. Odd, that people's inquiries into it haven't been answered."

GrapeApe writes on the MaxCash board: "I noticed that nobody from MC ever answered the questions and found it odd. Perhaps they would answer in a private e-mail... I think it would be nice for them to respond publicly about it since people could be getting nervous from the FTC stuff/Crowngate name/Late checks."

Anonymous writes: " Maybe they learned from the ftc crap that being incorporated in the us is not good. Notice this 'international' in the name. I think they are getting incorporated offshore and are slowly moving assets out of reach of the new bush administration into some island nation. I think it's a good idea, frozen bank account sucks! This would be good news for all of us."

RB (the Grand Poobah) replies: "Blah81 - You should write movie scripts. We have licensing deals and certain restructuring moves that go on every day...these deals have been common since day one of the biz... This is BUSINESS people LOL... We are not going anywhere. And the structure of the business, as you guys know it, remains very much the same. (Consider the issue addressed) ;))) RB"

Prisoner replies: " RB, Are you, have you ever been or are you planning to become a politician? You have an uncanny knack of answering questions without giving anything away or answering the question and when you do give an unequivocal answer to a question you always appear to leave a backdoor for you to exit through and point at should things not quite go as anticipated."

RB replies: "Prisoner - I'm as forthright as I can be...When it comes to matters concerning my affiliates, I am completely up front. When it comes to matters involving my company, things that do not concern the program or the resellers who use the program, I do not need to discuss every business deal or other in a public forum. Everything remains the same...Nothing to see here :)"

VegasLee writes on Netpond: Just when I think there is nothing that Luke could to that is dumber then anything he has said in the past, he speaks again and proves me wrong. Guess everyone is good at something.

Jimmy writes: What I really want to know is if Luke F-rd uses conditioner? How bout it Luke?

Luke: No, not regularly. I mainly use Head and Shoulders Dandruff shampoo.

Ottawa Porn Empresario Stuart Duncan

From Canadian Business Online:

About a decade ago, he [Stuart Duncan] and his brother, Douglas, recognized that the miracle of space satellite communications could be used to beam hard-core sex films easily and relatively cheaply to televisions throughout the US. Over several years, the brothers' revelation transformed them into millionaires-and their sleepy hometown and operating base of Ottawa into something of an epicentre for porn TV.

But the Exxxtasy Channel they founded (along with its siblings Exotica and True Blue) have since been sold [to NOOF] and moved to Colorado. Duncan hasn't entirely rejected his past, however-he's asking the Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission to license two cable porn channels. But for the past two years, from his satellite-dish-festooned headquarters ("How many are there? I don't know"), Duncan has been pursuing a bigger dream: a hybrid satellite and Internet-based streaming video service. As he describes it, Inetcable-which has consumed more than US$3 million of his and private investors' cash to date–will be an über-network for the Web-based television age delivered through, among other pipes, BCE's Sympatico-Lycos Internet Service, cable companies' Internet operations, BCE rival Telus and whoever runs the Internet service in Indonesia.

To lure paying subscribers, Duncan's programming vision is a montage of just about everything: the high-minded and dull (UN debates, Canadian fringe party election debates), the cheap (CPAC, CNBC), the obscure (B for U Hindi movie channel, Urdu TV), the morally questionable (in home offtrack horse betting) and the downright profane (The Blue Network, XXX Network). "As a consumer, I'm not going to jump among 55 different Web sites just to see what the Fox channel has to offer and the Discovery Channel over here and Global over here and the CBC and Deutsche Welle-forget about it," Duncan says. "Are you going to give me an aggregated Web site where I can find everything? That’s where we are."

...For starters, it's news to Sympatico-Lycos that it has become-as Duncan suggests and an official Inetcable corporate overview states-an Inetcable distribution partner. And outside of horse races for offtrack bettors, exactly what the company has lined up for programming is equally obscure. But perhaps strangest of all, the big trip to New York with the big wad of cash would reveal that Duncan and his CEO–former ExpressVu president and CEO Ted Boyle-at times don't even seem to be working for the same company.

Lovette Available For Incall In New York City

Ko writes on BigDoggie.net: I'm a friends of Lovette's as well as Cricket's. She will be staying at an airport near LaGuardia airport. Available for incall up to 5PM. If you are interested in booking please email me at ebizwiz92626@aol.com. There have been questions about her performance and attitude in the past. She has decided to jump in with both feet so expect an awesome encounter.

Blake Mitchell In South Florida

Your read it correctly...This legendary star has got the body dreams are made of...36DD-24-34...She has done some amazing movies and now you can meet her up close. Blake is truly a class act...do a search on any search engine and you will find multiple still shots from her films and box covers or go to our site and see a couple of pics she sent us... you better eat your wheaties if your going to meet Blake Mitchell! For additional info including rates, bio and more please see www.miamicompanions.com or call 954-677-8060 or toll free at 800-219-6183

Cricket In Palm Beach Feb 18-24

I'm a friend of Cricket's. She'll be in Palm Beach dancing so she'll be available for limited number of appointments during the day. If you are interested email me at ebizwiz92626@aol.com for booking info. There is no AGENCY FEE. I'm doing this as a favor to Cricket.

Any Real Difference Between Covergirls, Nicis and Adult Star Fantasy?

Fast Eddie writes on BigDoggie.net: I've dealt with ASF, and they've been a pleasure to do business with. I booked Ryan Conner thru them, and Melanie, who handles bookings, is a doll. They've always been good about answering emails.

I've never dealt with Covergirls, but I've communicated several times with Stacey via email, and she has also been helpful and accomodating. ASF and Covergirls have a good relationship with each other, and I don't think you'd have any problem with either one.

Nici, contrary to some others who have posted about her, also answered my email. She tends to be a little shorter and business-like in her responses, and I have to be honest and say that I haven't emailed her often, primarily because of her pricing structure. Two hour minimums and higher pricing has kept me from booking thru her.

And although you didn't include them, I just booked an appointment with Body Miracle to see Farrah later this week, and they have also been very communicative and helpfull. I asked for some guidence based on my particular preferances, and they steered me in the direction they though would most satisfy my desires. I'll have a full review of Farrah probably Thursday of this week.

Vivid Editing

Frank Simms writes on RAME: A while ago on alt.fan.christy-canyon, somebody (maybe Stan?) posted that he thought that Christy's contract with Vivid included "residuals". I know that is very rare in the porn world, in fact it's the only case that I've ever heard of (if true) but it got me wondering (since Christy's scene is among the edits in "Ginger on the Rocks" (VHS version.) Is it possible that Vivid has more of these "special" contracts, perhaps on a movie-by-movie basis (or even scene-by-scene) so that the editting they do on rereleases is done to avoid the residual payments. Say, frx, Amber Lynn objected to doing the double-dildo scene with Ginger in "Christy on the Rocks" (another scene that is missing) so Vivid offered her a residula bonus to do said scene. Now the scene has been removed,, so that Hirsch can save on the residuals. I know this doesn't seem likely, but is it possible? The common idea that they are saving on the cost of tape has never seemed all that convincing to me...

Porn Shopping In Soho

Lattara writes on RAME.net: The tiny minority of Ramers who don't have kill filters set to instantly delete any post with 'British' or 'UK' in the header are probably aware that as of last summer the UK has entered the realms of the civilised porn-consuming world. No more were we Brits to have to scavenge in seedy backrooms of run-down vid shops where dodgy geezers dispensed black-market porn vids in glorious Fuzz-o-vision and spectacular Eighth-Generation-Copy-o-scope.

I've been doing my best to bang on about this in r.a.m.e and other newsgroups for 6 months now but various factors kept me from sampling the goods on offer myself. At last, however, I have braved Britain's abysmal rail system and despite the best efforts of Richard Branson to leave me in a siding outside Hemel Hempstead I have donned my best raincoat - the one with the bottomless pockets and stain resistant fabric treatment - and ventured into the heart of porn darkness that is the square mile of Soho, sin capital of England....

My purpose was to buy hardcore R18 videos and I aimed on spending up to 100 pounds. I checked out 4 licensed sex shops - which are theoretically the only places R18 vids can legally be sold - all within a few minutes walk of Tottenham Court Road, Leicester Square and Piccadilly tube stations. The results of my smutatoria search are as follows:-

Lovejoys, Charing Cross Road:- I'm not sure this is actually called Lovejoys anymore -that was the name a few years ago. In any case, it's near where Old Compton St meets Charing Cross Road. It follows the old-fashioned sex shop model - respectable bookshop on the ground floor (Charing Cross Road is the main drag for bookshops in London), den of vice in the basement. Limited selection of R18 vids and DVDs, but the lowest prices for individual buys (ranging from UKP15.95 to UKP18.95). The shop will exchange vids for UKP10 but this did not appear to apply to DVDs.

Original Soho Bookshop, Brewer Street - Right in the throbbing heart of Soho where walk-up whores rub shoulders with Gucci-clad advertising execs and TV producers, again this has a respectable bookshop on the ground floor and a basement stocked with smut. All the R18 vids and DVDs were priced at 19.95 UKP (except for a few pre-liberalisation R18 vids which are basically softcore and should be avoided like the plague - these were at a knock down UKP10, so clearly the punters are wise to the difference). There was a much larger selection of vids here than in Lovejoys, indeed most of the titles I recognised from my trawling of the BBFC website were present and correct. In addition they had a 3 vids for 50 quid offer so the price per vid came down to UKP 16.66 if you were prepared to buy in bulk. If like me you'd invested in a rail ticket it wouldn't pay to do otherwise. Like Lovejoys, the Soho Bookshop will exchange watched vids for UKP10 a time - again this didn't appear to apply to DVDs but if you know otherwise post and correct my ignorance. (I could have asked the shop assistant I guess but English did not appear to be one of his languages). More on exchanging later in the post.

Harmony Sexshop, Brewer's Passage (IIRC) - this is the alleyway off Brewer Street where the Raymond Revue Bar is located so whatever it's called you should be able to find it. The biggest sexshop in Soho AFAIK and therefore presumably the biggest in the UK - this is, to the best of my knowledge, the only sexshop - Anne Summers possibly aside - in Britain that even begins to compare with one of the glossy Euro chains like Beata Uhse or World of Sex (in fact Beata Uhse are supposedly considering opening up in the UK now it's worth their while - presuming that is that there are enough local councils in Britain who will be prepared to license sex shops, many currently won't license at all, or won't license more than one, which leaves one company in control of a large percentage of the UK's sexshops. The main reason I wanted to trek to London was it's the only place in the UK where there is any real competition to keep prices down). In Harmony all vids and DVDs are UKP 19.95. There didn't appear to be any bulk buy savings available, nor was there any chance of exchanging as far as I could make out. However, the range here appeared to be the best of the 4 shops I visited, though it only pipped the Soho Bookshop by a few titles. In its favour the shop was staffed by assistants who looked more like the staff of a left-field bookshop than the barmen from a seedy East European tavern who ran the counters in the other shops.

British Sexshop, Brewer's Passage - opposite Harmony. Ah, this takes me back. Up until about 18 months ago this was an unlicensed sex shop called Wonderland where I used to buy German vids with titles like 'Piss mir in den Arsch, du geile Teeny-Fickluder' and 'Fick meine Spermatriefende Muschi mit deiner schwarzen Faust'. Sadly such fare is not as readily available as it once was and my linguistic skills are suffering as a result.... this shop still maintains the seedy atmosphere of it's old illegal days. Decent stock of R18 vids, also supposedly DVD's though I couldn't see them. 20 UKP to buy, 10 UKP to exchange. The only shop that had the only R18 vid with a Vanessa Chase scene as yet released (called 'Suck Off' for the UK market, apparently a Sean Michaels directed flick with the original title 'Dr Freckle and Mr Jive' if I've identified it correctly based on cast list and runtime - any US readers who have got this far in the post and who've seen this let me know if it's worth getting. Bear in mind that I would eat chips out of Vanessa's knickers as they say in Belfast - or should I say fries from Vanessa's panties to cater for the international audience.....). Anyhow, this aside, why bother buying here when you can buy from shops that have shed the cloak-and-dagger ambience of the old days as the prices are no better here than elsewhere... also the staff in the other shops are less scary....

BTW, if anyone who hasn't been to Soho wants to get an idea of it (or more accurately how it appeared a few years ago before most of the shops got licenses) check out Ben Dover's Puttin' On The Brits where Ben and accomplices f--- a canny Geordie lass (http://www.bgafd.co.uk/girls/t/t0017.shtml) in an unlicensed sex shop. 'Have you got any of my videos here?' asks Ben. 'No,' the assistant lies - obviously any hardcore versions of Ben's vids on sale in the UK were (up until a few months ago) dupes from US or European releases and Ben would have been losing out on any revenue from these. (There's much to say about Ben's new UK hardcore releases but that would be to go off at a tangent and i wou;dn't want to do that.... ).

There are several other licensed sex shops in the Soho area and others in other parts of central London, but by now I just wanted to buy porn and rush off to the Eastend to watch strippers so I headed back to the Soho Bookshop whose bulk buy discount and exchange offer seemed like the best bet to me. Oh the agony of choice.... so much legal and (presumably) decent quality porn (I'm talking picture quality here, up until this week I had always presumed pornstars had a yellow radiance and the power to alter contrast at will)....

The porn passed so far by the British censor breaks down into the following groups.... Recent Private films distributed by Sheptonhurst Ltd who also distribute some of Cal Vista's back catalogue, a selection from Wicked, Sin City and Metro back catalogues distributed by Prime Time Promotions, a handful of golden age classics whose distribution seems to be split between Hot Rod Productions and Prime Time Promotions (we're talking Deep Throat, Debbie Does Dallas and Devil In Miss Jones here - titles which are all fairly well-known among the British public insofar as any porn is), various British releases, notably Ben Dover and Omar Williams which are variously distributed, and a whole slew of Evil Angel vids ditributed in the UK by Harmony. (Is Harmony linked to the Harmony sexshop? No idea. Sheptonhurst and possibly Prime Time Promotions have links to the businesses that own many of the UK's sexshops and it was certainly suggested that they may choke off other product - this doesn't seem to be happening in London at least). Hot Rod Productions also distribute various vids from other US companies of a more raincoaterish variety (e.g. one of the North Pole series, one of the White Trash Whore series). Then there are a few German vids that have crept out too....

Kudos has to go to Harmony who have released half-a-dozen or so Evil Angel titles with what appears to be the original artwork from the US release. (In fact a couple of their vids were in US style big cardboard boxes - which they appear to have abandoned for more recent releases). The artwork on HotRod releases also appears to tend towards the decent. Most of the other companies have foregone the original boxcovers in order to stress the 'genuine hardcore' aspect of the vids. Hopefully once the British public comes to know what to expect from an R18 vid this will stop as vidcaps on the cover of vids gives them a cheap and nasty look and discourages me from buying. This has most notably been done with Private and Wicked films - both companies put out front covers in the US and other territiories that don't really scream 'hardcore' porn - the UK versions do (for example, one UK Private release just has a close-up pussy with an anal impalement below - hardly the upmarket image Berth Milton Jr. has been cultivating for his product over the last decade!).

BTW, all the titles on display were selling like the proverbial hotcakes (especially in Harmony and the Soho Bookshop). The assistant in the Soho Bookshop audibly tutted when I came up to the counter with six videos in my sweaty paws - he knew he'd have to go and fill the gaps on the shelves as I watched him do before while I was browsing. I finally settled on the following 6 vids for 100 quid:-

Dirty Anal Kelly in Rome - because Kelly has a mischievous twinkle in her eyes as she blows complete strangers.... I like that in a girl. Also, this is the most heavily cut R18 video passed since the liberalisation - over 7 minutes when most have not been cut at all - and I wanted to see what had been left in (and try and get an idea of what had been left out).

Private's Madness 2 - because it's Private, because it's 3 hours long and I'm a 'value for money' kind of guy.

Euro Angels 25 - because I liked the cover :-)

Euro Angels Hardball 9 - because I wanted to find out what the difference between ordinary Angels and Hardball Angels was. I know there's been a thread in r.a.m.e recently about how boring Christophe Clark is getting - if only you knew the luxuries in which you live. For me, being able to buy a Christophe Clarke vid in a shop without having to worry that I'm buying a blank tape (but see below) is like some kind of strange dream that I have a fear of waking up from.

Buttman & Rocco Go To Montreal - because it's Buttman and Rocco - come on, I'm a raincoater who likes gonzo stuff, why would I not buy this tape?

Sweet Little Pervert - because Stephanie Swift is the nearest I come to being an SFB. Sadly I've seen Miscreants, Gang Bang Angels 1 and a Cherry Poppers encounter of hers with Max (all in pirate releases). The various Wicked productions that have been released in the UK are not going to measure up to these for sheer levels of perversion. In fact the companies seem to have gone out of there way to release vids where Steph stays veggie or doesn't do anal - at least this vid promises a facial... we almost SFB's have to take out rough comforts where we can.....

So far I've only watched half of Dirty Anal Kelly. I am finding it hard to believe that the stuffy bastards who have dictated Britsh film censorship for the last 8 decades are happy to allow me to watch curvy English cutie Kelly blow and rim a quartet of gentlemen whom Rocco appears to have picked up wherever it is that illegal immigrants gather to tout for work in Rome.... or for that matter to permit me to see Rocco and friends DPing a petite redhead while ramming a dildo into her mouth. And this is after they've cut out all the really nasty stuff!! I keep expecting the local filth to turn up on my doorstep going 'Ha ha, fooled you - we thought that would get all you sick porno f---s crawling out of the woodwork' and cart me off to prison. But it hasn't happened yet....

The only cloud to the day (and bear in mind that after I'd bought my vids I hurried off to Ye Olde Axe in Shoreditch and watched various cuties wave their snatches about 2 inches from my face in exchange for a pint and a pound a go - oh the simple pleasures....) was that some f---er had taken advantage of the Soho Bookshops exchange scheme to return a dupe. He'd carefully removed the label off the original tape and placed it on his own copy which has a picture quality worse than many of the pirate porn vids I've had over the years. Bastard! The moral is clearly try and buy a new copy rather than a retread and check the tape before you buy. It was immediately obvious that the tape was a dupe - if only the shop assistant had bothered to check when the previous buyer had handed it in for exchange. It's a pain to have to go 120 miles to change a duff purchase.

OTOH, at least this was the action of one dumb bastard rather than the systematic ripoffs that used to be practised in some Soho sexshops. Those days seem to have gone for good!

OK, if anyone is still reading, I hope the potentially useful stuff is useful and the dull personal wittering is not too dull. Any comments and info gladly received...especially on prices and availability of R18 vids in other UK towns and cities.

And now I'm off to see just how dirty Kelly is going to be....

XXX writes: Dear Luke, Further to "Lattara's" recent comments on the increased availability of hard-core pornography in Britain,I wish to add a few comments of my own. Up until as recently as seven years ago Britain was, with the possible exception of the Vatican City,the only white nation on Earth to censor hard porn,the familiar "18" rating issued by the British Board of Film Censors (now there's a title to think about), were soft enough to show at the proverbial vicarage tea party.Conmen flourished in these conditions,allowing David Sullivan, for instance, to amass a fortune in his never ceasing campaign to defraud the great British public. But due to Britain's membership of the European Union, the control of all customs from other EU nations was stripped from Britain. This enabled businessmen to, at first start selling explicit US magazines in English newsagents, and later offer for sale hard core videos via mail order in other EU nations. Due to the erosion of national sovreignty to the EU, the British government was powerless to act. The battle was lost years ago, this is the real reason why the censors have "thrown in the towel", and not any sudden conversion to liberal values. The irony, of course, is the Single European Act that enabled the erosion of national sovreignty was signed by Margaret Thatcher.

Mr Marcus Replaced By Sticker On Vivid Box

Mr Marcus writes: I've been replaced by a sticker. A sticker was f---ing that girl...black and white sex causes a little ruffle in the water. Let's not talk about white guys and black girls, put a sticker over them too while your at it, at least the sticker is white. So many people wrong in this whole discussion, the point in the matter no discriminatory thoughts, ideas, actions and words need apply to this business we call porn...the business of sex. None. ( Luke I'm not an English teacher and can really give a f--- when I'm just expressing how I feel) Where is the resolve? need to find it.

Hustler Centerfold At Bunny Ranch

Webmaster writes: This week the Bunnyranch replaced its normal porn star advertisement with a 3/4 page spread of a recent centerfold model in Hustler magazine named Krystyn. She will be featuring at the Moonlite Bunnyranch for the rest of February. I believe that there was another Krystyn who worked at Kitty's two years ago and also spelled her name in the same unique way. Does anyone know if they are the same person?

It's the same L'il Krystyn from Kitty's.Krystyn used to work in Kitty's and was a charmer in the parlour. I watched many a guy being escorted back into the parlour after a party and they looked pretty damned happy.

French Director Defends Intimacy

BERLIN, Feb 14 (Reuters) - The French director of an English-language film "Intimacy" that is filled with explicit sex scenes urged critics on Wednesday to look beyond the shots of carnal pleasure and not write off the film as pornography.

Patrice Chereau said "Intimacy," which stars Kerry Fox and Mark Rylance as an adulterous couple rolling naked on the floor for 35 minutes of the two-hour film, is a story about people falling in love long after their intercourse sessions began.

"Just because 35 minutes of this film is about intimacy it should not be reduced to a film about sex," Chereau told a news conference after the world premiere at the Berlin film festival. He said he did not expect the British censor board and other ratings agencies would demand cuts for their home audiences.

Requiem For A Dream

Putative Marc writes: did you fellas see the movie "requiem for a dream"? directed by darren aronovsky. ellen burstyn was nominated for an oscar today, so it'll be around more i think. my local art house started showing $3 weekday matinees, so that'll be a habit of mine i think. anyway, good torah values seeping through its brutal depiction of drug-induced madness. between that and "traffic," it's interesting how avant-garde filmmaking, once synonymous with celebrating drug culture and sexual indulgence (both movies feature prostitution subplots, an side-effect of all the dope going around), is now applied to showing the trauma and destruction these influences cause. luke, you are onto something here with your approach. (of course, i'm into my 12th month of saying "luke, you are onto something here.")

Luke Gets Mail

Celeste Masters writes: Oh my lord! DK has struck out again! I use to have him as an agent also and he found me one shoot in a 2 week period of me staying in Los Angeles. Everything that Nadia wrote is DK's descriptive run down to the T. He cost me a lot of damn money to stay in LA longer promising me that he would find me more work. He didn't find s---. All I got was him flaking out on my calls for 4 days and then calling me at 11:30 at night to tell that I need to get up at 8 AM the next morning to go to these companies on my own. I think any idiot can do that. I wouldn't need an agent if that's how it work. DK is a liar, deceiving, back stabbing and a PIG! :o) Oh yeah! Tell him I said hi too. LoL

Cindi writes: Dear Luke, I agree with Lynne in that we know you must run all this BORING webmaster stuff because it pertains to your livelihood. But what Lynne is saying so eloquently boils down to-she wants you in bed, and she wants you bad! Luke- she's cute, she's very intelligent, she understands the business you are in and she wants you. Maybe the girl you've been looking for so long and hard is right in front of your face! Is she Jewish? That would make her perfect! So what if she's a few years older then you. Just a thought from someone who cares about you.

Ian writes: It only occurred to me to ask because one of your correspondents said he'd seen a pic of Goddess on your site, and implied that she was beautiful - it aroused my curiosity, since up to then I'd assumed that she was of a certain age, like Lynne L-patin. Never mind, eh?

Lynne writes: Ian, beauty has nothing to do with one's chronological age -- only with one's soul (though a little airbrushing never hurts.) However, a propensity for judging women by their external appearance is indicative of inner ugliness, and ugliness doesn't attract beauty at any age.

Dusty writes: Luke F-rd: Sidney C. Winter, Esquire, of I gallery didn't threaten me with lawsuit...nor did any other attorney. He only wanted a correction when someone posted using their salespersons name. I closed the board and offered it for sale because it required more time and effort than I wanted to expend. I am 64 years old and have been retired since I was 49, expecting to wake up dead each morning from a terminal heart problem. Before internet, I performed Pro Bono Appellant work for a famous Civil Rights Attorney here in Florida. Anyone who sued me would be in for the shock of their life.

Goddess Interviews Luke

Goddess writes: That whole interview thing you did the other day got me to thinking. I wish people would ask you more hard hitting questions. Maybe I could interview you someday for my column on www.mikesouth.com? Just say the word. Of course, I'd have to run the idea by "The Boss"....

Let's practice: *If* (and this is a BIG "if") you could have sex with somebody other than yourself--living or deceased--who would it be? {And *please* don't pick anybody who's deceased, cause that would just add a whole new dimension to the ickyness of Luke F-rd.com}

What do you want to be when you grow up?

Other than Sybill, who has been your role models?

Did you ever have imaginary friends when you were little?

Do you still have them?

Why does Lynne L-patin like you? cause for the life of me, I can't figger that one out....

The Tebbit Test

Ian writes: Hi Luke, Please satisfy my curiosity. In England we have something called The Tebbit Test (named after a rabid Tory Cabinet Minister, Norman Tebbit) for judging the national commitment of an individual. Adapting it to the U.S. scene: If the U.S., Australia and Israel were competing in the final rounds of the World Soccer Championships, whom would you support between (a) the U.S. and Australia, (b) the U.S. and Israel, (c) Israel and Australia? (Note: In the UK the question is usually posed in terms of cricket Test matches.) I'm wondering if your intellectual commitment to Judaism has become a visceral commitment to Israel.

Luke answers: I'm not sure what would happen. It would depend on what things powered up inside of me. I feel strongly about all three countries. I rooted for Australia vs the United States in the America's Cup yachting championship in 1984. That's the last time I remember this issue.

Utah's Porn Czar

Fred writes: Luke, I'm afraid you let another professional opportunity go by. The state of Utah has just appointed a "porn czar"--an ombudsman who will help keep the good people of Utah safe from smut. Quite frankly, I cannot imagine anyone who might be more qualified than you to occupy this position of public trust. But unfortunately, since your resume was not in the pile (or so I assume), it went to someone much less qualified. The porn czar is a 40 year old woman who is a virgin. She grew up on a ranch in Montana without any television. There's an article on this in the Salt Lake City Tribune (www.sltrib.com).

If I wrote down the article web site correctly, it should be http://www.sltrib.com/2001/feb/t02112001.htm

What do you think, Luke--if I go to Utah, will I be safe from this filth? Please advise. I fear the evil influence of the carnal filth that pervades the internet, videos, magazines, television, music, radio, books, etc.

I wonder whether she swallows?

Hey--as I write this, I just got another brilliant idea! Luke--it seems to me that living in LA has made you decadent. You should travel to Utah and ask this babe out. This could be your future soul mate. You two will be very compatible. By all appearances, Larry Flynt likes her at least as much as he likes you.

Another possibility is that you should contact her and do an interview for l-keford.com. Or invite her on your show. Have her on with a panel discussion including Rob Black and Max Hardcore. You can stage a debate as to whether A2M and GS are part of healthy community standards.

Another possibility is to go to Utah, ask her out, try to score, and write about the experience.

A final possibility is to run a contest on l-keford.com. The first l-keford.com reader who goes to Utah, schtuppes the young lady, and writes a column about it for your web site gets a free prize. (I haven't figured out what that free prize should be.)

There are journalism opportunities here.

Lynne writes: How did this sex maven escape becoming a reviewer for AVN? She's got the perfect qualifications -- no sex life and no aesthetic standards! As to standards, in reference to community standards, Utah does have some funky sex behaviors: twelve women with one man is okay and teen brides marrying men in their thirties is okay, too. It occurs to me, Luke, that you may have chosen to convert to the wrong religion, but it's never too late to follow the Golden Salamander and don the magic underwear...

Nancy Pera On Luke F-rd Live

Nancy Pera, manager and friend of the late porn star Savannah, was our special guest.

Listen here. Read the chat here.

James DiGiorgio: "We need advertisers on this show... We'll sell out to the White Devil [Steve Hirsch].

"Luke, what's up with Gene Ross? He's setting himself up to be the first white man ever to lead the black man in revolt. He is just pouring fuel on the flames... I didn't realize that Gene was the black Messiah.

"Gene is stirring up a whole of doodooo..."

Luke: "Gene works for Extreme which hates Vivid and AVN."

Jim: "What's that got to do with the black man?"

Luke: "We'll use any means possible to assault Vivid and AVN. Industry journalists hate Vivid. Vivid just pisses you off."

Gene: "I had not heard the term since Eldridge Cleaver was around. He wrote that book "Soul On Ice." I got arrested because Eldridge Cleaver."

Luke: "Let me tell you a good Gene Ross - Steve Hirsch story. Paul Fishbein, owner of Adult Video News, and Steve Hirsch, owner of Vivid, and Christian Mann, owner of Video Team, like to get together and go to sporting events."

Jim: "They all share a sky box at the Staples Center. It's like your own private balcony box with a living room and a bar..."

Luke: "One year they deigned to bring Gene Ross along to a baseball game. And Gene was quiet. And so Steve Hirsch supposedly said, 'Why are you so quiet? Is it because you don't feel good enough to be around us?'"

Jim: "Ohhh, man. And Gene's a guy who keeps a grudge. He kept that buried in himself for ten years. This guy's had a lot of stuff eating at him for a long time. And I guess the way the black man's been treated in the porn business for a long time has been eating at him too.

"He loves printing the words "White Devil" on his site."

Luke: "Do you think there really will be a rally outside Vivid?"

Jim: "There's going to be a race war. They'll call it the great porno Mau Mau uprising of 2001. 2001-A Black Odyssey. And they're all turning on Christian Mann too."

Luke: "And Christian Mann has been a true friend of the black man."

Jim: "Christian Mann's half the work for black performers..."

Luke: "And he's a gentleman too.

"I got these impeccably spelled and punctuated emails from MandingoX. I don't normally get impeccably spelled..."

Jim: "So now you're making a racist comment. Because the guy's black, he doesn't know how to punctuate and spell and use proper grammar?"

Luke: "No. I don't normally get impeccably spelled emails from male porn performers.

"Who do you think among the male porn performers are the best punctuators?"

Jim: "Tyce Bune. He used to be an English teacher.

"Now, was that sticker on every box [of that videotape]? Yes. Then that says it all, doesn't it?

"The people in the warehouse usually put on the stickers... The Mexicans... Or the guys in the duplication labs. They tend to be legal Mexicans or illegal Israelis. I've met a few illegal Israeli immigrants working at duplication labs for Israeli guys.

"The Israeli guys who run the dupelication labs take ads in the Hebrew newspapers. They tend to like to get guys like that because they're easy to exploit. What are they going to do? Jim Gunn says I am right on the money."

Nancy Pera came on.

Nancy: "I've read a few things that Luke's supposed to have written on the internet...that I was offended by. He'd written some things about girls that I know in the industry that I didn't care for. But he doesn't know that I know."

Luke: "Nancy, how did you get into the adult industry?"

Nancy: "Many years ago [around 1982], I had a bad car accident. I hadn't worked in two years. A friend of my dad's called and said that he knew somebody who needed a secretary who knew advertising... In 1984, I went to work for Cal Vista, which was owned by [Dutch Jew] Sidney Niekirk."

Luke: "Is Sidney still alive?"

Nancy: "Yes. He sold Cal Vista [to Reuben Sturman?]. But he still has freeze frame which does credits for many of the mainstream films.

"He still lives in Southern California. He used to be a race car driver. Sidney's a character."

Jim: "Luke wants to know if he was a member of the Dutch Mafia?"

Nancy: "He wouldn't admit to it if it was true."

Jim: "Cal Vista was a mob operation, right Luke?"

Nancy: "Back then everybody was mob... I worked for Reuben Sturman and they used to always like to say that the mob ran him. And I used to say, 'I thought he was the mob.' He ran the industry for years. What's the mob? It's a controlling...

"I did work for David [Sturman]. I did end up suing Sin City. They settled for [$2500] half the amount that I wanted. I went to see Reuben in prison several times. He flew me back there. He made David cough up the money to fly me back to Kentucky.

"I was so pissed off at him. The first time I saw him in Lompoc [prison in California] after they got him again, I said, 'Why didn't you leave the country?' Because I used to tell the story that he was probably going to come back as Naomi, his wife's, older sister. Go to Sweden and have one of the operations. 'Really, with your money, you could've done anything.'

"I started out as Reuben Sturman's secretary. I used to send a fax around, while he was in jail, just before his birthday, saying, 'Any of you interested parties who aren't hiding behind skirts, you could send a card.' I thought it was horrible how the industry treated him [after he was jailed.]

"After two weeks at Cal Vista, Reuben transferred me to Doc Johnson. After two weeks, Ron Braverman and I got along so well that I put in my notice. Reuben called me from Cleveland and said that he was going to create a position for me. So he created mail order. I became his mail order specialist."

Jim: "How come Ron Braverman ended up owning Doc Johnson instead of David [Sturman]?"

Nancy: "What Reuben did always was get somebody and put their name on the paper."

Jim: "A front guy."

Nancy: "He found this guy working behind the counter in Amsterdam at a sex shop named Ron Braverman and he said, 'Would you like to come to America and get rich?' He said sure. Then after Ron did his stint at Lompoc or wherever he did it, he said, 'I've done my part. Doc Johnson is mine. I'm not giving anything to Reuben.'"

Jim: "David's got to be thrilled about that. That his dad gave away a big moneymaker like Doc Johnson to some guy working behind the counter at a Dutch sex store."

Nancy: "I think they came up with 362 companies that Reuben was involved with around the world. Reuben laughed and said, 'You guys did pretty good. I'm surprised you came up with that many.'"

Luke: "What was up with that fire..."

Nancy: "Reuben was sure sorry that it hadn't burnt to the ground."

Jim: "Luke, are you insinuating 'Jewish lightning'?

"Nancy, do you think that David Sturman started up his rubber goods company just to get back at Doc Johnson?"

Luke reads from pages 371-372 of the John Heidenry book "What Wild Ecstasy":

"Some porn insiders continued to suspect that Sturman himself was cooperating with federal prosecutors to get his sentence commuted. They knew, for example, that after being captured in Anaheim, Sturman had told authorities that Doc Johnson, the crown jewel of his empire, which he had sold to partner Ron Braverman in the great 1985-88 divestiture, was his. The company was immediately closed down adn its bank account seized. Only when the authorities were shown proof that Braverman was the owner of record was the company allowed to resume business. Sturman angrily insisted that Braverman had never apid him for the purchase, but he could not prove it. Indeed, in the end nothing Sturman had to say about Doc Johnson or any of his other former holdings interested prosecutors sufficiently to get his sentence reduced.

"In September 1995 a mysterious fire nearly leveled the Doc Johnson plant in North Hollywood. Soon after, a bank in the Cayman Islands was blown up. The two events amounted to a last battle for control of what remained of Reuben Sturman's once vast empire, though the circumstances and players in the power struggle remain known only to a very few. According to insiders, three major factiosn were vying for control of the porn industry, and the retaliatory bombing targeted a place where a significant amount of one of the faction's assets resided. That bombing decisively concluded the struggle, and the three groups - one of them headquartered in Paris - agreed to divide the international porn market into three equal shares."

Nancy: "Wow, that is interesting."

Jim: "Who are the Paris guys? Not a big company like Canal Plus?"

Nancy: "Hot Video magazine is in Paris. They bought out European Hustler."

Jim: "Nancy, where did you work for Reuben Sturman?"

Nancy: "At Vidco, next door to Doc Johnson in North Hollywood. Then they moved us into the bigger building where Madcorp used to be... That's when he sold MagCorp to Paul Wisner."

Jim: "What did you think of the Buck Adams movie on Savannah 'Little Girl Lost'?"

Nancy: "He combined Jeanna Fine's and my role together. Her [Savannah's] last call was to him [Buck Adams?] supposedly. When I watched it, I was surprised that Rebecca Wild did as good a job as she did. Between her body language and how they dressed her, there were a couple of parts that were amazingly similar to Savannah. The body language. I started crying a couple of times."

Luke: "What did you think of the E! True Hollywood Story special on Savannah?"

Nancy: "I thought it was very good. But they pounded into my head so much that they were going by the book. They only wanted facts. They wanted everything accurate. Then I saw some things that were iffy that they presented as facts. And I called them on it. I said, 'You guys, anything that I said that was iffy, that's hearsay. You don't know for sure.' Then you put Mickey Ray on saying that Perry Ross was tied up when they found him dead."

Jim: "Nancy, do you think that porn stars back then had more drug problems than they do today?"

Nancy: "Well, everybody nowadays is AA. They're like born agains. I'm sure there are quite a few out there today who do have drug problems. I think that one of the reasons that the sex was so much hotter in the old days was that everybody was loaded on the set. They were higher than kites. Of course that didn't seem to help Savannah."

Jim: "Were you personally having a lot of hot sex?"

Nancy: "I did just fine.

"The joke was that I didn't go anywhere without my bag of toys."

Jim: "You were like Mrs. Doc Johnson."

Nancy: "I was working at VE (Video Exclusives, owned by Mark Carriere's Leisure Time)...when I got hired by Steve [Hirsch] and David [James] at Vivid."

Jim: "Did Reuben own a piece of Vivid?"

Nancy: "Steve and David used to say they wished. No, Reuben told me that Steven had called him on numerous occasions and beg him to buy David out. Please, get him away from me."

Jim: "Was Reuben [Sturman] responsible for letting all the Israelis into the business?"

Nancy: "No, it was the Jeff Steinman crowd."

Essex was sunk by the cocaine use of its owners, the Steinmans. Father Joe came from Guatemala. Married a Jewish woman with the name Steinman. Marianne Lovett of VCA worked there for 5 years as art director. Joe took a hit of coke after the 1986? AFAA awards just before entering the Hefner mansion…. Had a heartattack. Survived.

Nancy: "Did you know about the big powow they had when Noel Bloom and Jeff Steinman and Reuben and Russ Hampshire and they all agreed that they would no longer deal with the Israelis. Then the Israelis immediately pulled up a truck to the backdoor [of Jeff Steinman's businesses] and starting unloading VCRs and loading up with product. And this was after everybody had agreed they would no longer deal with Israelis.

"I heard all these nightmare stories about Savannah before directing her in a video for Adam & Eve. And she wasn't bad at all. She was there before I got there. She was nuts. I had to do shooters with her before she'd finish putting her makeup on. She would only work until five o'clock. But she did three full scenes that day.

"During the solo masturbation scene... She's lying on the couch and I'm telling her, 'The whole idea is that the camera is the guy, the viewer. And you're masturbating and you're going to tell him that you wished that he was there with you. And knowing that he is watching turns you on...' So she could go with it... So I'm sitting around the corner with the monitor and my headset on. And it is quiet. She doesn't say anything. So I yell out a line, 'I'm so glad that you are here. I wish you were with me right now.' She repeated it. Then silence. So I yelled out another line and she repeated. And this went on for three or four lines, and pretty soon she leaned towards the camera knowing that I was looking at the monitor, and she said to me, 'No more words dude.' So there were no more words. So we had a nice quiet solo masturbation with her.

"She was a character. The industry did create her. She was 15 [years old] when she met [rocker] Greg Allman. Suddenly you're with a man that's 32 years old. He's famous and rich and he's taking you around on the road. And every place you go, people listen to him and do what he says. So this is your role model. This is somebody famous. This is how you're supposed to act if you're a star. So when she got into the adult industry, she was treated as a star. So how was she supposed to act? Like a star. Like Greg Allman. And nobody told her that she was doing anything wrong for a long time. Nobody reprimanded her. They couldn't.

"It was Steven. When she would do something and something would go down, Steven would call me in and reem me up one side and down the other. Then she would come in and he'd give her money."

Jim: "Things really haven't changed in the porn business, Nancy. We still neglect to tell porn stars that they're not really stars."

Nancy: "Or even to say that you can't do this. If there's somebody that's making us a lot of money, and we happen to be fooling around in the tool shed, then you just let everything slide by and take it out on everybody else. Until you get to the point where you've made enough money with them, or they've maybe cut you off from sex or something..."

Luke wonders: "Is Nancy Pera inferring that Steve Hirsch was fooling around with Savannah, and decided to drop her because she'd cut him off from sex?"

Nancy: "Then you let them go. You don't warn them. You don't tell them that they are doing anything wrong. It's just sad. That's what happened to Savannah. She didn't know where she was at. That what she was doing was so terribly wrong. Steve would tell her that she could leave early if Slash was in town. Then PT [Paul Thomas] would go ballistic. And I wouldn't blame him. But Steven had ok'd it."

Jim: "Were Savannah and Buck Adams an item for a while?"

Nancy: "No."

Jim: "He told me that."

Nancy: "Of course he would tell you that. Everybody I talked to said that they were a hot item with Savannah. That they were her best friend.

"People say that I was Savannah's manager. That was a fluke. After Vivid let us both go, people would call Vivid saying, 'We've got something for Savannah. How do we get a hold of her?' And they would give them my number. And that's how it progressed. I would call her and she'd say, 'Tell them no, or tell them this," and I would be a go-between. Then she started dragging me to all these meetings. And I had to stop by the shoots."

Jim: "Did Savannah give you a piece for being her manager?"

Nancy: "No."

Jim: "So you didn't make any money off being her manager?"

Nancy: "Not per se. I felt very maternal towards her. I really cared about her. I've never had any children and I am that kind of a girl. That's why I am not in the 'Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous.'"

Nancy says that she made her small claims court settlement with Sin City with General Manager Mickey Blank, who also settled with Rebecca Lord, says Jim.

Jim: "They supposedly offered her a contract... Kylie Ireland and Mickey went to Judge Lord. Sin City made a contract girl deal with Kaitlyn Ashley, Rebecca Lord and Kylie Ireland. Then they never fulfilled on their deal, according to the girls. Rebecca took them to Small Claims Court. They settled. Kylie took them to Judge Judy and won."

Nancy: "I dated Mickey [Blank] for a while. I was crazy about him... He was trying to do the best he could to help me but he also knew that David [Sturman] would try to screw me royally any way he could. When David wouldn't pay my full commission, I knew that I was getting screwed.

"Vivid said they let me go because I had poor work habits...

"I'd rather work at McDonalds than work for these [porn] people.

"When Steven got off drugs and alcohol, his addiction became money."

Luke: "Nancy, why did you and Savannah get along so well?"

Nancy: "I wasn't jealous of her. I wasn't obsessed with her. I didn't have any preconceived notions of her. And I wasn't worried about her stealing my boyfriend. Or taking away from my stardom. Because I was nice to her. Savannah wanted to be loved. Savannah wanted people to like her so badly and nobody did. They used her.

"Girlfriends would just use her. And she would just give and give. Buy them presents. Shower them with gifts. She wanted girlfriends so bad. It was pitiful. I would cry sometimes. She would come over here at 3AM hysterical because some girl she'd been out with would say, 'You're nothing but a dirty lousy porn whore.' Just call her all kinds of names.

"This one girl [nude model Julie Smith] I'm thinking of, Savannah spent $3000 on clothes for her birthday and this girl just treated her terrible. And Savannah was just crazy about her. Four or five weeks before the tragedy, she told Savannah one night, 'Why don't you just kill yourself? I'm just sick of this. I'm sick of you and I'm sick of what you do and who you are. You're just a porn slut...' Savannah came over that night hysterical too."

Jim: "It's always sad when somebody calls a porn slut a porn slut."

Nancy: "And Savannah had spent all this money on her for her birthday. And lent her $2000 to move into this house in the Hollywood Hills. And then Savannah goes dancing. And when Savannah comes back, this kid she'd been hanging out named Shawn had moved in with Julie. And they wouldn't even talk to her. They wouldn't even take her phone calls. They just cut her off. And she was just devastated.

"Vivid threw us together. Steven would say, 'Watch out for her. Make sure she's ok at the show.' I had to go everywhere with her. I was the only one who could put up with her. I was always there."

Luke: "Did you ever try to get her into detox or therapy?"

Nancy: "We talked about it. She said she was saving her money for rehab but that never happened. Finally, she said, OK, I'm going to kick. And in September of 1993, she kicked [heroin]. She was a total basketcase. She probably took one hundred Valiums if she took one that week. I was to the point where I was giving her aspirin and vitamins and saying they were sleeping pills. She kept saying, 'I need something.' But on the seventh day she rose, took a shower and got dressed, and she never put a needle in her arm again.

"That last six months [1994] was so cruel to her. She started drinking heavily and doing coke again and pills. I had her have her wisdom teeth pulled because they were driving her crazy. She got on Vicodan and that was when she started spiraling down.

"Bad things kept happening to her. People kept lying to her. Like the Hot D'Or Awards in January of 1994. They flew her over. She was nominated for Best Actress for Cinderella. The night before the awards ceremony, even though it was closed, they let her know that she didn't win. And her logic, she kept saying before she left, 'Why would they invite me and pay for everything if I didn't win? Because they're not paying for any of the Vivid girls who are also nominated. Steven's paying for them.'

"Later on we were told by an insider at Hot Video that she did win but it was a bought award.

"The Hot Video people came to her that same night to say they weren't going to pay for her food and beverage. So she didn't have any money at that time. She called me hysterical. So I sent faxes [to people at Hot Video]. And Serge said, you know how much she can drink.

"When the camera came out, it didn't matter if she was hysterical or mad, whatever, she would stop and pose. They talked her into going out in front of the Eiffel Tower and showing her tits. And it was cold. And midnight.

"I keep reading about her begging at Vivid to take her back. The real story is that they owed her back royalties. She dictated and I typed up a letter and we sent it to Steven. We never heard back. Finally, after numerous phone calls, she got an appointment with Steve. She came running over here immediately afterwards all jazzed up. 'Oh Steven's saying that he's thinking of using me in an Alice in Wonderland spinoff. This is so exciting.' And I said, 'Savannah, don't get your hopes up. He's probably trying to change the subject. What did he say about the royalties? 'Oh, he said that they don't owe me anything. When they fired me, the contract ended, and that's over. They don't owe me anything for the royalties. But he gave me $10,000 cash.'

"So I looked at her and said, 'Well, if Steven, and knowing how Steven is, if Steven gave you $10,000 cash to get your mind off the royalties, he probably owes you $100,000.

"Why would he dange this Alice in Wonderland thing in front of her? He's manipulative. He's done it to me. That's why he's a good salesman. He knows how to work people. And I like Steven. And I respect him for what he's good at."

Jim: "Don't you think it's funny when these porn guys dangle one of these movies in front of the girls and the girls look at it like it is a real movie. 'Oh, it's an Alice in Wonderland thing.' It's not a real movie. It's a porno."

Nancy: "These girls... This is the world they've gotten into."

Jim: "They start confusing reality. They're not going to play Alice in Alice in Wonderland. They're going to be a girl who gets f---ed a couple of times in a movie with Alice in Wonderland costumes on. Because there are guys out there who will jerk off to that."

Nancy: "This is their world. Their little realm. And they get awards for these things. It's a culture. And in that world, it is a real movie."

Jim: "To them, they're Julia Roberts and they're about to do Erin Brokovitch. Even though there's only six lines of dialogue."

Nancy: "Savannah was Cinderella. They get to put the costumes on. They get the makeup on. They get people fluttering around them."

Jim: "Like it's a big deal. When they're going into the awards, and they walk down that long aisle to the show. There's hundreds of fans clicking photographs. And they're really hoping that someone will flash a tit. They think they're stars."

Nancy: "They're treated like stars. They get signed to contracts."

Jim: "Contracts that half the time they don't live up to."

Nancy: "They get special privileges. Like VE paid the lease on Savannah's apartment. And rented her a Mustang convertible and paid the insurance. They're being kept nicely. And the rock n'roll stars are all over them."

Jim: "Because they figure that they can perform fellatio better than the average girl."

Nancy: "Plus it's the status."

Jim: "Wearing blonde jewelry. These girls aren't groupies. They're accessories. They're a fashion statement."

Nancy: "I've always been naive. I blunder through the world and get beat up. I prefer to stay naive because to face it all the time is too painful to me.

"With Savannah, after that night [when Savannah shot herself], I couldn't face that reality for a year. I pretended that she was on the road dancing."

Luke: "Did you see any evidence of organized crime in the industry?"

Nancy: "No, but I saw a lot of feds. When I worked for Reuben, they were everywhere. They just followed him around.

"I know that at Vidco, I'd go out at lunch and there would be all these stretch limos parked in the parking lot. I don't know if I should mention the names of any New York people... The Rothsteins, Teddy [Star Distributors] and Marty and his son Frank [Coast to Coast]. Supposedly they're connected."

Luke: "Did you know Walter Gernert?"

Nancy: "Oh yes. Reuben tried to get me involved in a scheme to get him broken out of jail. I had to write Walter and he sent me $10,000 and I kept telling Reuben that I was going to be in jail and he [Walter] was still going to be in jail. And that this was not a good thing for me to be involved in."

Chaim writes Luke: Who is on for this evening? Please let it not be any humorless dyke or brain-dead stripper. I must admit that that jew-hating samantha of last week sounded pretty interesting. I say you discuss the moral law (m+oral!) with her.

Devoto writes: Luke, In reading your archived chat for the show, I realized that SOME people think I use RANDOM capitalization in my writing. THIS is not so! Please instruct anyone reading my postings to read it ALOUD, and to use INTONATION in their voice whenever they come across a word in CAPITALS. I do this for two reasons: ONE, I like to, as I write, speak to myself, and those words that are CAPITALIZED are the words that I wish to EMPHASIZE; TWO, it makes it REAL easy to understand, and SOME of the people I am responding to need that little extra HOOKED ON PHONICS edge!

Center Of His Universe

Lynne L-patin writes my sister: Dear Elenne:

I know it has been some time since I've written...I've been very busy with school and with work, and after ignoring Luke and the site last term (which seemed to make him very depressed), I've tried to keep up with him this term (to the detriment of my schoolwork perhaps, but only benefiting my spirit, which may be more important, who knows?) Being that I am all caught up with the site, I was wasting time looking at some of his "growing up" snapshots, and thought I should let you know all's well.

We spent about six weeks last term with no communication at all, at Luke's request, but I guess neither one of us was really happy with that, so when I finished my paper on Chronic Fatigue Syndrome and sent it to him, we started up again. It is hard for me to believe that I met Luke two years ago in March and that, with the exception of the afore-mentioned six week break, we've been in contact on a daily basis ever since. He remains my best friend. At his instigation, when people ask me if I have a website, I tell them "l-keford.com" and it seems to make him happy.

Luke is doing well -- making new friends, offending fewer people, really having good insight into himself. He continues to offer a valuable service to a maligned and unwashed flock -- he remains the only resource for anything approaching objective reporting on the adult industry.

Will he ever chose a life that isn't all peaks and valleys? Honestly, I don't know, and given who he has always been, I would doubt it. He likes life on the edge of the storm.

Porn is one of the most interesting things around -- a reflection of humanity at its most visceral -- and anything else he chooses to do will be boring compared to porn. He may seek "boring" some day...as I am doing....but it would be for different reasons...I left only because my husband died and I hated living in Los Angeles, so needed a new life and new skills with which I could make a living elsewhere. Luke is just coming into his own, just entering his prime creative years as a man, and though I know you are sad that they would be spent on this subject matter, there's surely some purpose in it. It is not for us to fathom why things work the way they do...

Specifically what prompted my writing today is reading over bits and pieces of his diary, and noticing it saying that he would never form a long term relationship with a woman....but he has, several of them....solid friendships based on mutual love and respect. The boy must be doing something right....