Wednesday, January 3rd, 2001

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Devon - 'Vivid Raped Me!'

Ex-Vivid girl Devon tells Gene Ross: "I was in the hospital over the summer and and I had a serious medical procedure. A few weeks later my hospital bills started coming in and I had to ask Steven for an advance which isn't something uncommon for girls to ask him. When I asked and he knew that I had been in the hospital and recovering, he pressured me to do anal. I had never done anal for anyone. I don't do it in my personal life. That's just me. I don't have a problem with anyone who does it, it's that I choose not to. When I had asked Steven for the advance after this serious surgery. He said okay I'll give you your advance if you give me anal, now. I thought, morally, for someone to say something like that to one of their employees, that was very disrespectful and pretty disgusting, to be honest."

Read the full interview on Gene Ross. Devon's personal site is Devonxxx.com. The Vivid site for Devon is click here for Vivid Girl Devon.

The Hessian writes: Tell Dimwit Devon to shut the hell up! Steve Hirsch and Vivid made her the minor star that she is today. Who put an $$$ marketing machine behind an absolute unknown bimbo? Vivid! Who paid for her surgical super-sized silicone sacks? Vivid! Who paid her 50 times what the average 21 year old makes? Vivid! Who stood behind her when she HUMILIATED herself by showing up STONED to the Playboy TV's Helmet Cam show last June? Vivid!

How on earth did she wind up in the hospital without insurance? How stupid is that? I know a man who lives in a garage apartment in Beverly Hills who at least has health insurance. Stupid! So she wants an advance? Fine. Hirsch wants to negotiate an anal scene which would set her apart from the boring Vivid Girl harem and make her a bigger star. But Devon is insulted. She already had a price tag on her mouth and her pussy. Who knew her that ass was verboten?

Listen up Dev dear. You will never have it as good as you DID at Vivid. What's ahead for you now is not only anal, but double anal, baby! And bukkakes! And gang bangs! And golden showers! And finally ... Ron "The Hedge Hog" Jeremy. You blew it big time!

Note to Steve Hirsch - Learn from Extreme, buddy. There are no primadonnas there. Don't sign or resign any more contract whores until they taste a hot jet of piss on camera and can publicly gape their asses to the size of a goose egg!

Concerned writes: Hindsight shows that a rift was probably brewing between Devon and Vivid a few months back when she sent you that rather terse email on how www.vividvip.com (proud sponsor of l-keford.com) was not her official site. That had to piss off Steve Hirsch.

Devon@DevonXXX.com writes: "Hi Luke In response to the e-mail that belittled me i just want everyone to know that I laugh at this bastard> It amazes me to see a Vivid employee hide behind a fake name to talk some s---! and what is worse, they don't even know what they are talking about. Sometimes education should come first! Well let it be known that not only have i been offered a more prestigious contract with more money, insurance, and even artistic control, but I still do not have to do anything that I don't want to. And if you want to see anal out of me join my website cause that is the only way you are to see it right now! Anyway tell potty mouth to get his facts straight and enroll in some sort of educational program it will only do the whole world good :)

"Vivid did push for surgeries, however i never took them up on it I paid for my own tits no one but me paid for me! and even then they still were not happy! oh well i am who i am!"

Ranger Rick writes: I wanted to add to this whole Devon thing by saying there is another example of a girl who got only where she is because of those around her and now it's time to f--- them over. I think her bitching to Vivid was bulls--- and how does a girl who starts off dancing in a s---hole in Philly and comes from a ghetto town like Allentown get in a position to be so f---in ungrateful. Sure she shot her first movie for Jules Jordan, which is nothing to brag about with the crap he shoots, but she was given a contract by the most prestigious company in adult takes it for granted.

Her dance rate is higher now??? Before she f---ed on film there was no dance rate, just lap dance rates in a dump. Maybe this was the master plan to gyrate across America for the rest of her pathetic life. I have had the unpleasure of meeting Devon and I am not suprised at her higher than everyone attitude. Well she aint even as close to as hot as the rest of the Vivid girls and maybe Raylene should kick her ass all over the AEE floor for the problem they had a few weeks back. Does anyone remember Sky??? of course not and there is a good reason for that. SO here Devon is getting ready to ride off onto her own. Sure her money will go up when she finally films again but how long before she is the middle of a dp sandwich in some s---ty gonzo. One could only assume that she is now on her way to gang bang hell if her pimp lets her of course because we all know there is a string being pulled up and down here somewhere. Otherwise she is destined to fly coach to every noname city in America for $500 a show never knowing what it was like to be a real star. DEVON maybe you should retire yourself before you find yourself laying on a matress with 100 guys jerking off on your face.

Brandy Alexandre writes: So you think a girl should do anything a man tells her to just to show she's grateful? Do you think it's appropriate to demand a show of gratitude rather than have it come freely? And do you honestly think anal rape is acceptable to demand as a show of gratitude over any other possible manner? The "gratitude" in this case should be on the other end since he made at least 90% more from her efforts than she did. Even so, I hope you have to be "grateful" to someone some day.

Alaz writes: For what its worth DEVON should have been marketed better by Vivid (The Leader in adult Films) If marketed better she would have been bigger than Jenna or Janine. She should have ben the centerpiece of the website. Hot looking girls like her in my own estimation are not a dime a dozen she is one of the true great looking girls in the industry. What a waste when a company and a star can"t meet in the middle....If a the girl does not want to do anal like Janine did not want to do men so be it and work around it.As far as I can see Vivid Lost a huge star.

Houston To Wed

From QuasarmanRants.com: Metro contract star and perpetual Howard Stern guest Houston will be wed in Las Vegas immediately following the AVN awards. At the close of the ceremony a Limo will arrive to whisk Houston and her spouse-to-be off to an undisclosed Las Vegas chapel where the two will exchange vows. Little is known about Houston's future hubby except that the two met during the Metro sponsored "XXXtrme Adult Vacation" in Cancun this past October. Sure, Houston had sex with 620 men in one day during "The World's Biggest Gangbang 3" but apparently 621 is her lucky number.

AVN Statistics

Statistics on the porn industry compiled by Adult Video News are quoted in publications ranging from the New York Times to the Wall Street Journal. But a former employee of AVN says "the statistics are a joke."

XXX: "A couple of years ago, Gene Ross was in an arbitration meeting involving Howie Klein (VCA?) and Danny Mimain at Caballero. Ross's role was to relay AVN statistics. And the arbitrator dismissed everything Gene had to say, pointing out there was no substance or proof to back up the AVN numbers.

"And there is nothing to back it up."

Lynne writes: And no one who was actually in the business end of porn ever gave a hoot of credence to AVN statistics. The plot of the gay movie Bruce and I made for Heatwave Entertainment revolves around just that premise: that the numbers in AVN as to the billions of dollars floating around in the porn business were inaccurate, believable only to fools and the completely ignorant. We tried to sell it in a hetero version, but couldn't find any takers, so re-wrote it, because it was funny either way. But I (gratuitous plug coming) digress: "Handsome Ransom," starring Paul Morgan and featuring Chance Caldwell, 1998.

Rob Black Declares War On AVN

After getting dropped from the Adult Video News January cover, Rob Black, owner of Extreme Associates, declared war today on AVN.

Paul Fishbein takes these things personally and must've decided to drop Black from the cover after the assault on AVN from the Rob Black owned website www.GeneRossExtreme.com.

The cover was initially an olive branch on Fishbein's part to Black.

This illustrates how the contents and covers of AVN are constantly adjusted for political reasons.

Gene Ross writes: Black says the straw that finally broke the camel's back was AVN's January AEE issue in which Black was originally slated to appear on the cover depicting him as the Supreme Court Chief Justice swearing in "president" Tyce Bune with the First Lady, Brittany Andrews, looking on. The cover was an accompanying illustration to a feature article about how politics might affect the adult video business over the next four years. However, the cover was changed at the last minute to a generic one featuring some old fart oogling the ass of a young woman.

"For whatever reason, because Paul Fishbein's a f---ing punk and pussy, I was pulled from the cover," Black said. "I went to the photo shoot [a Friday in November]. It took eight hours of my day at the [Mike Bisco] studio with me as the Supreme Court Justice, Tyce Bune as the president and Brittany Andrews as the First Lady. I spent eight hours of my f---ing day to do this faggot f---ing shoot and Paul scratched it from the cover. Why? Why did he do it?"

According to Black, the January cover was a concessionary "gift" given by Fishbein and managing editor Mike Ramone during a recent meeting at Mimi's Cafe a month prior to the photo shoot. Black said Fishbein, "a cunt and f---in' jizzblob" acknowledged at the meeting that AVN had put the screws to Extreme in the past, and the cover was a way of making reparation.

"The war is on," said Black. "The casualties in this battle will be immense. I feel bad for whatever is going to come out of this. But, ultimately, AVN will be the loser." Black also said that Extreme renounces any potential awards it might receive at the awards show next Monday night and that it will no longer advertise in the magazine. (From Gene Ross)

Chichi writes Luke: If AVN had put Rob Black on the cover, he just would've ridiculed it as a lame conciliatory gesture (despite the fact that neither Fishbein nor Ramone initially came up with the cover concept ... someone else did, and it had nothing whatsoever to do with offerings of olive branches for Rob Black, I assure you). And now that the cover art has been changed, it's war? Hmmm. Sounds to me like a classic case of damned if you do, damned if you don't. If you ask me, this is just another incident of self-promoting hype, Extreme Pro Wrestling style. Your readers can totally bank on another one of Black's wild stunts during the convention and/or show in Vegas. What I don't understand is why they would turn down any awards they win. They've worked hard, and if all the reviewers/judges think that they deserve some recognition for their efforts, then that has very little to do (if anything) with Paul Fishbein or Rob Black. Jewel De'Nyle, Kristi Myst, Jessica Darlin', Luciano, Luis Cypher, Tom Byron and Zupko should be allowed to take home the awards they may earn instead of being force-fed some stupid feud that has absolutely nothing to do with the quality or popularity of their work. By the way, Luke, I still think you're fine, and look forward to seeing you in Vegas, you kangaroo-shagging hunk of hasidic love.

Of course, you won't print that last letter, I'm sure. Why do something that would help set the record straight, when you can let bad feelings, ill will, and brutal misunderstandings continue, right?

The Most Hated Man In Porn

Noah Shachtman writes the article on me and RJB Telcom for Wired.com.

XXX net porner says: "I thought the Wired story was bulls---. I gave him so many great quotes and the guy used nothing. I think he got scared. After talking to RB, he realized that he didn't know who he was dealing with, and he got scared. The story was slanted to make you look like an asshole. The most hated man in web porn?"

YYY net porner says: "I wonder if FCI head Andy Edmond will even show up at IA2000? Greg Geeland was a much needed shot in the arm for YNOT a year ago. Greg really believed in Andy and his principles. Now Greg's resigned. Will YNOT even be around in six months?

"MattyD, a US Marine, works for Mark Tiarra at UAS.org and Tiarracorp.com. He's surprised two male webmasters by kissing them on the lips. Oh well, don't ask. Don't tell.

"Heather@Latinapics.com is banned from any use of PrivateLabelResources.com. Talk to D-Man or Headless or J-Man.

"Heather (an aggressive, even frightening, woman of about 45 years of age, obese, probably the most hated female net porner) and Nikki Dial did an interview on PLR Live about two weeks ago.

"Heather had a falling out back in 1997 with K-Man aka Keith Gatehouse. So Keith got on the PLR chat and started harassing Heather. In other words, Keith was his typically obnoxious self.

"Heather said: 'That's it. Nikki Dial (or was it Nikki Nova?) and I are out of here unless you kick K-Man out of the chat room. So they kicked K-Man. Then K-Man talked his way back in. So Heather and Nikki hung up.

"So after she got kicked out, Heather started logging into all the PLR chat rooms saying, 'Have a miserable holiday, you bastards' and similar types of messages. They've even got it programmed into the BOT so that if you even use the word 'Heather' in the chat room, it comes up with some obnoxious message.

"I don't hold grudges except with Heather."

DDD says: "Over an hour time period, she sent K-Man over 40 emails with little one line cutdowns such as 'Your mother is a heifer.' With 15 megabyte attachments. She was mailbombing him. Here he is, a 19-year old Marine and he's getting this juvenile response from a 45-year old woman who should know better..."

Luke says: I contacted Heather for comment and she warned me against publishing a word about her. Along with my industry friends, I've had interesting interactiosn with her in the past. She ranges from rage to giggly sweetness.

Pat Riley Rambles

Pat Riley writes on RAME: I wonder if Clive McLean is English? Any relation to Frank Thring? Maybe the same guy? Somehow there seems to be a more subtle level of perversion with the English. They have these caning videos and although I've only seen one or two many years ago, the level of physical punishment (i.e. pain inflicted) is much higher than anything the US does. Slap Happy and Rough Sex included. The only thing they're missing is the explicit sex.

I've just seen Barely Legal #7 and all of the girls bottom half of their bodies seem to be heavy...exaggerated...fat. Kristina Black seems like she has the butt of a plumper. I wonder if it has something to do with the lenses our buddy Clive is using. Is this possible, especially if the prime focal point is the hips/pussy/butt? Like the video process makes people look bigger than they really are, is it possible that something central is bigger than it would be under other circumstances.

Jon Eric wrote: With others, like Annabel Chong or Kobe Tai, have short scars under their breasts...and their tits look like half grapefruits fastened to their chests...grapefruits that barely move when the women do. There is also the pancake test. If the girl is lying on her back, real tits pancake...they flatten. Bolt-ons are too stiff, they don't flatten.

Pat Riley replies: Not to enter into a long attempt at an exhaustive discussion on the matter but the "pancake" test is not necessarily accurate, or perhaps it's not accurate in young very firm bodied (and breasted) girls with cup sizes of "C" or less. Any flattening is imperceptible. A good example is Jesse who seems to have disappeared now but was in such movies as Down The Hatch #4 and Freshman Fantasies #26. I very much doubt her tits were siliconized, certainly there were no scars and there was no puckering in doggie but when she was on her back they hardly flattened, if at all.

In contrast there are girls--I have difficulty with an example but think old biddy--who most definitely have implants but the implant has been in position for so long that the breast pancakes without actually compressing the silicone or saline bag the outline of which you can sometimes see.

You'll notice that in Road Trip, a movie designed to appeal to the teenage and young crowd not dirty old men nostalgic for their youth, all persons are tattoo-, silicone- and piercing-free and there's no hint of BJ's, anal sex, or facial cum shots.

Apart, of course, from the female nurse anally penetrating one of the male leads with (apparently) several fingers in the 'milking the prostate' scene.... Had you nodded off by this point in the film? :-)

Pat Riley replies: You could have also pointed out that the guy seemed to take quite a liking to the activity and at film's end had some girlfriend doing the same to him. Or, had YOU nodded off by then...or, perhaps the UK censors didn't allow you to see the ending scene... I forgot we had a pedant on the watch. My comment was directed towards penile-anal intercourse which, according to the group to which you claim membership, is practically all college kids do nowadays...oh, that and BJ's ending in humongous facials. It has something to do with all college kids being stupid and thinking that they're still virgins after doing the entire football team orally and anally.

Either that or it's inexpensive contraception due to the unavailability of adequate means, this despite the abundance of college run sex education websites advertising all devices and potions known to man including abortion on demand (part of the compulsory women's studies course, I believe).

Director Andrew Blake Congratulates Gene Ross

Andrew Blake writes: "Many of the concerns and issues that I've had over the last few years regarding AVN have been confirmed by you (and your associates) on your new web site. I (mostly) live in a vacuum (regarding gossip etc.) in the adult business, and thanks to your recent efforts, my worst fears have been confirmed. I agree with several of the e-mails I've seen here that say Fishbein has so much power because the 'industry' - meaning several individuals that I won't mention, have handed it to him on a goddamn silver platter!

"I always wondered why AVN needed so many viewing cassettes at awards time. Personally, we've always marked all over the tapes to avoid what I have suspected all along - that they're surreptitiously going to some video store."

Amused writes Luke: Gene Ross says that you are going to be on the Tera Patrick show January 16th. How the hell did Gene scoop you on the subject of Luke F-rd? Sad.

Star Casting

Laura Long (sitcomonline@hotmail.com) writes: I'm a friend of the producers of the new "Star Casting" adult entertainment series that Mojo and Tony Raphael are starring in. I saw some of the film where Kendra Jade gives Mojo a blow job and he does cum all over her breasts! Mojo was healthy enough to ride Keri Starr as well as Dynamite in the first episode of the new series. He's perfect for the part of the Hollywood scumbag producer and he pulls off the job with style. Look for the new series at the AVN or go to the website www.headwestpro.com for more information and pix. The shoot I hear was a real beach party at a very far out beach house up the coast. Tongues on the beach were flyin' wondering what all the naked men and prostitutes were doing partying there! All the talent hung out and really enjoyed their roles. On the real! Rubee Tuesday and Tony Raphael were super hot and Keri Starr burned up the pixels with the very impressive 'money shot' three way, trying to get the big part from Mojo and Tony. I hear she got the part. The series is edgy, satirical and very sexy, designed to blow the lid off Hollywood. The producers seek distribution.

Luke F-rd Live

Listen to tonight's Luke F-rd Live. Read the chat.

Zoe was my first guest, then Shane from Vancouver. Followed by Quasarman and Vancouver Kendra.

Helpful writes: To boost your radio show's ratings why don't you take a cue from Howard Stern and raffle off Kendra Jade's anus. I know I'd listen for a chance at winning that.

Rumdar writes: Luke... I was listening to the Jimmy D. Show with special quests Luke F-rd and Shane. She initially appeared to have a personality as frigid as a Canadian arctic blast. I was about to assume her porno boyfriend was strangling his unit out of frustration. But then she ditched your Torah shtick and warmed up to Jimmy D's "Hey, I want to make you a star" rap......How long before she moves to LA and does her first scene?

I hope Luke is feeling better than he was on his own show. But no matter how dull he is at times, I always learn something educational. Like that menstruation thing. Perhaps tonight Luke will explain the Torah stand on "ass to mouth (and back in again)?

AVN's Miss Nude Internet

Mark writes: Luke, Check AVN.com some idiot at some wanna be company called Fritzgerald Multimedia came up with some title called “Miss Nude Internet” and what kills me is AVN picked the story up! Luke, why don’t you create an award called the “Luke F-rd Excellence in Being a Whore Award” and see if AVN covers the story. Luke this is a story with your name written all over it. Maybe theres a Fritzgeld/AVN connection, maybe Brad Fritzgeld is giving head under Pual Fishbein desk!! Luke whats the deal here? As your readers as ANYONE even heard of “Tiffany-Ann” the supposed winner of the “Internet Nude of the year”

Luke: I saw that at AVN.com and wondered the same thing. I've never heard of the chick.

XXX writes: Brad Fitzgerald is low end photographer based in Atlanta. A lot of features don't like him cuz he cyber squats their names. Now get to doing some homework and find out how many of those winning sites are owned and or operated by Fitzgerald Multimedia.

Brad Fitzgerald writes Luke: "Mark wrote: blah, blah, blah about AVN'S MISS NUDE INTERNET

"Miss Nude Internet is a website that has been online since 1998, and people nominate and vote for girls, so it's not a "wanna-be" website, or company. Just because "Mark" doesn't actually LOOK at the site, and wants to rag on someone, simply does not mean that he has his s--- together. Miss Nude Internet site has nothing to do with AVN, although I appreciate their coverage.

"Best regards to you, as i frequent your site often! I appreciate your site, and viewpoints. Some of your viewers apparently just want to spout off though..."

Luke Gets Mail

Mr Marcus writes: Found this cool magazine called Nerve. Very sexual and very different, check out the photo shoot on page 64 by a photographer by the name of Miles Ladin or for some rare down home cooked porno check out the other layout on page 100 by a female photographer named, Andi Schreiber. Sex all in your face and for what? basically to say "f--- em'". I like good company and this was it, share.

Steve writes: In the mid 80's, I innocently (really) bought stock in "Private Screens" through what was at the time E.F. Hutton (now merged variously over the years to Smith Barney). The shares continue to be listed on my monthly statements at 0 value. Having read some of your work on the internet, I am presuming the company is defunct. Can you shed any light on this for me?

Kendra's Valentine Gift

Helpful writes: I know that Valentine's Day is still six weeks away, but it is not too early to get your sweetie Kendra "Ass Clown" Jade a special gift. What does one give a porn star who sticks pages of the Holy Bible up her ass? hhmmmmm ... I know! How about a baby Jesus buttplug ?

George Bush's Cabinet

Chaim Amalek writes: Well, Mr. Bush has completed his cabinet, one that is truely more diverse than any in American History. Negroes in important positions galore, hispanics, cubans, and even an arab-american! But - and this is striking, coming right on the heels of the Clinton years - not a single jew in the bunch. Not one. Also, where have all the lesbians gone? Before, they ran Health and Human Serivces and, most importantly, the Justice Dept. as well. Think about it - jews almost ran the show under Clinton (I am including half-jews such as run the Defense Dept., and jews-in-denial like Madeline Albright at State), and now there is not a single one at the cabinet level. And no obvious dykes or gays, either. Is this good or bad for the Jews, and is this good or bad for American? Discuss amongst yourselves, ye porners.

Bulletin - A Woman Has Come Between Chaim And Luke

Chaim writes: Your tawdry, dishonest (and short-lived) infatuation with New Kendra proves you are not serious about judaism and likely never were. You cannot live a seriously jewish life without a seriously jewish wife, and this woman is a shiksa! She will never undergo a halachically valid conversion just to marry you, and besides, she is MINE! I am certain that she will look beyond your boyishe goyishe good looks, past my many physical imperfections to what lies within us both and choose me on that basis. She wants me Luke, literally sight unseen (which always boosts my chances).

VKendra is MINE; is not it enough that you have the other kendra?

VK, do not break this old rotund jew's heart. You mean more to me already than you could ever mean to a social butterfly like Luke F-rd.

Instant Messaging Etiquette

Lynne writes: Lynne writes: Instant Messaging adds a new dimension to the concept of "stalking." By entering someone into my buddy list, I can tell if they are on or off line, monitoring their daily lives at a distance.... For example, if someone tells me that she's going to take a shower and then does not log off, shall I assume that she's left the computer on throughout? Or that she's lying to me?

As with any new form of social intercourse, there's probably specialized etiquette for Instant Messaging conversation. Never having been any good at discerning the hidden meanings of social small talk, I'm most certainly unaware of the accepted signals for "Go away and stop bothering me...I have other things to do on line than talk with you."

A journalist or salesperson would never give up on a story or customer just because their first response was negative. But, for personal interaction, I have a feeling that there are different rules for males and females. Males may follow the same rules that govern them in business interaction (i.e., keep trying until the girl/customer/source gives in or threatens a restraining order).

Females, however, when "messaging" with men, should passively accept whatever they are told, never questioning why someone who's just informed them that they are off to the airport remains on line for the next forty-five minutes. They should never feel hurt and insulted when their friends or sweeties ignore their hails, not even having the decency to message back that they "aren't up to talking" or have just come on line to send a message and have to run back to the offline world....

Of course, with my female friends, I have no such problems. We bitches are always barking at one another and always have to have the last word, (sorry, Tobi -- I know you hate it when I use the word "bitch" so casually). That's just female mammalian behavior, it seems, and I think men should just accept it and indulge us, if only because to do so makes it easier in the long run to get blow jobs out of us.

Guys, it is okay for you to not feel up to talking. It is okay for you to have lives, even, that don't include us. You are not beholden to us 24/7, and we know it. But remember that you are rude to us at the expense of your dicks, because if you don't think we females share your bad behavior with one another behind your backs, you are very naive, indeed.

The Big Dog Of Internet Prostitution Rankings

Luke says: I've heard serious charges about C.S. Kelly, a Tampa, Florida resident and operator of the largest internet prostitution operation in North America. See www.bigdoggie.net. In operation for the past three years. Now claims more than 1 million site visits per month.

I've heard that Kelly charges prostitutes as much as two thousand dollars a month cash for "high ratings" on his "Top 100" list of internet-based prostitutes. See www.bigdoggie.net/national.htm. I've also heard accusations that Kelly demands and receives sexual services from these prostitutes.

If anyone can confirm or deny the charges, please Email Luke. Kelly denies the charges. The charges have been widely posted around the internet along with lots of personal information about Kelly.

Kelly, under his psuedonym The Big Dog (TBD), writes:

Since I've noticed several people making uniformed guesses and accusations about the Top 100 Lists, I thought I'd take a quick minute to clear the air. TBD is the one and only person who devised the formulation and methodology behind the lists and is thus the only single person who can intelligently and honestly comment on the topic. Anything posted by anyone else to this board or other boards is either pure innocent but uninformed speculation or, worse, fabrication or malicious slander. Top 10 lists are popular in american culture. They exist in all walks of life. Their main attraction seems to be that they generate controversy, comment, and thought. The point of the TBD Top 100 Lists remains as it has always been and always stated:

"The TBD Top 100 List recognizes quality, dedication, and professionalism in the escort industry. Every effort is taken to ensure accuracy and fairness--if you notice any real discrepencies, inadvertant omissions, or obvious mistakes, please e-mail TBD. Since every man has different likes and levels of expectation, the list contains a real diversity of girls based on the reviews and input submitted to TBD. All of the girls on TBD's U.S. Top 100 List are truly top-quality, dedicated, professional, honest and reliable."

This means exactly what it says and no more or no less. I'll provide the following glimpse inside the lists from my own honest knowledge and procedures. This is provided NOT to stimulate conversation/discussion about it but merely to educate you and give you a good idea of what is REALLY behind the lists. You may choose to believe the truth "from the Dog's mouth" or speculation and innuendo from someone who knows absolutely nothing about the topic.

1. Source(s)? The lists are drawn from reviews submitted to the TBD Review Board or via email directly to TBD. Reviews posted only to message boards, reviews posted to other sources, or reviews from one-time or sporadic reviewers are not taken into account to lessen the probability of false reviews, self reviews, and malicious reviews. The reviews represent the opinions and experiences of anonymous reviewers--the list of anonymous reviewers is constantly changing but at a minimum each reviewer has a known track record of experience, a reputation for honesty, and has received multiple commendations as a reviewer from the client and escort communities. The anonymous reviewers DO NOT know that they are the reviewers being polled--this insures anonimity and fairness. Since this is the case the escort doesn't know who is actually doing the review that counts either. And as far as TBD knows, the reviewers DO NOT get any special favors, discounts or freebies based on their reviews since they don't even know they are the anonymous reviewers. Nor does TBD, of course...

2. Methodology? This is much a more scientific, organized and thoughtful process than any of you will ever know even with this little glimpse. Every attempt is made to be as objective as possible and there is a little subjectivity thrown in since the input IS based on client reviews---each reviewer's subjectivity. The lists are derived from an extensive database program that depends on input in 10 different categories derived from the anonymous review sources. Input in each of the 10 categories is rated from 1-10 with 10 being best. The 10 categories were determined from a survey of several hundred client-types. It assures a broad and diverse range of choices, styles, and types of escorts. The 10 categories ARE a trade secret, much like the formula for Coca-Cola, to prevent fake reviews being formulated to match against them. Suffice to say they take into account much more than the session performance of the escort to ensure a well-rounded and professional experience.

3. Rankings? Since every client looks for different things in a woman, placement on the list isn't really that important. Use the lists as they were intended not as a contest. If you like 5'3" redheads who live in Seattle then the list probably offers you a dependable choice or two meeting those criteria. That is what the list is about--not about whose breasts are bigger or whose hair is longer or any one person's ideal of "the perfect escort". The placements are merely based on the methodology described above--based on 10 different criteria. Your own personal criteria may well be different but these criteria represent the composite of hundreds of clients.

4. For Sale? Absolutely ludicrous. The Top 100 Lists have never been and never will be "for sale." Such allegations say far more about the person making the allegation than anything else. If such allegations contained any shred of truth you can be sure that a full accounting of any such facts would have long ago been published on the internet. This is a small community in a lot of ways--the girls talk among themselves and the clients do also. Still, the facts support me in saying that NO ONE has EVER paid for being on the list, bartered or traded to be on the list, or in any other manner received recognition on the lists for any other reason than for the recognition of their professionalism and excellence in the profession.

5. Banner Ads? TBD does accept banner advertisements on the site. Those banner ads are paid for like any other commercial advertising--to attract business by being visible on a highly trafficed site. And by all accounts reported by advertisers it does work very, very well and gives excellent results. The placement of a banner ad has absolutely "ZERO" bearing on any of the Top 100 lists or postings to local messge boards. To allege anything else is either a lack of knowledge or an attempt to lie and falsely discredit the site/lists/TBD.

Monet from ExoticIntimacy.com writes: Dear Luke, Thank-you for the info on TBD [BigDoggieNet.com]. I have wondered why my reviews and advertisements never make it onto his site. Now I know why. And I am glad they have not if I have to repay something that should be for free. Thanks again :)

TBD replies: Here are headers from 10 free ads that Monet (who wrote to you) ran on TBD in the last year in rebuttal to her charge. If any submitted ads didn't run it was ecasue she did not include the required City/Staet information in the submission. (I think the Marissa Monet ads are from another girl. These are easily verified by doing a simple search for Monet on the TBD Ad Board for the last 300 days.) Rather disingenuous for her to suggest otherwise when the facts to not support her claims.

As for her claim about reviews, I have the archives for the original review submissions. I will make those available for anyone reputable to review. To be frank, I get so many reviews that they get posted in a batch and every review submitted (excepting duplicates caused by hitting the submit key twice) are posted. Reviews submitted tot he message boards stay on the message boards. I would also make available for review the deletion logs for the message boards. Her claims do not hold up in light of proveable evidence to the contrary. Many clients will promise to submit reviews to get discounts, etc and then NOT bother to submit the reviews.

Shauna of Wyldorchid.com writes: hi, I am writing to let you know that Charles is a dear friend of mine and I am here for him as I would be for anyone that is such a true, genuine good person as him. I came around last October, and it was like meeting all new friends....actually it was like meeting old friends that I have not seen in a long time, I have not had the kind of relationships I have made here in my life before I found TBD. I am very thankful to him for the great venue he has provided for people to have chats on and talk freely and for people to make friends with one another.I am a person who does not let people so freely into my life, I have made mistakes in the past about who I have let in and they have been cruel to me because I was so easy to get to know and I was blind to their fake kindness. I am selective in my friendships, and because of that I don't have alot of freinds but the friends I do have, I intend to keep for a lifetime. Charles is one of them, I thank him for being the kind person that he is.I also don't think you will find many people who disagree with me!

XXX writes: The Shauna of wyldorchid.com who wrote to you is formerly Kimberly Taylor, former Penthouse Pet and feature dancer. She has made numerous appearances on Howard Sern. And she is #3 on TBD Top 100 list.

Luke Update

I'm finally over my week long cold and am starting to feel the old strains of ambition coursing through my veins... I have to admit, however, that whenever I perceive an obstacle, I always think, what is the easiest way to get what I want, with the least effort. I'm hoping that Vancouver Kendra can fire me up and inspire me to be more successful.

I'm back at shul again, davening... It's a way of associating with a higher class of persons.

I received two phone calls today, one from a radio station in Detroit and another in Anchorage, Alaska, to do interviews on my weirdest stories... I received 30% more visitors than normal Tuesday thanks to that Wired.com story.

Rumdar writes: Buddy, take it from an old hand. It is a loosing battle as we advance in life attempting to curry favorable comments from the aging, stoic parents. There is always the little kid in us that desperately needs that pat on the head. But in reality you won't get it. I gave that game up when I was 25. I lived in Japan for a while and did some advertising work. My high water mark was a commercial for Sharp TV. I was dressed like a Dr. Spock type creature. I was on billboards, TV, newspapers (only made about $500, no residuals) So I get back to the states and show the stills to my Mom proud as could be. She takes one look and says, "Yuck! That doesn't look like you". I felt like s---. I saw Arnold S on TV a few years ago. He was discussing the first Terminator movie. It was a huge hit. (as you recall he played a cyborg) He finally had it made in Hollywood. He previews the movie for his aging German mother and proudly asks her what she thinks. She says, "you were terrible, you didn't smile once"..Give that game up buddy and save yourself some shrink $$$$$. I'm going to bed.