Monday, November 6th, 2000
Luke's Not A Real Christian
Melody Clark writes: Lukey, check this out: http://www.techweb.com/wire/story/TWB19980817S0015
Failed actor, huh? Only way you can eek out a living is by dishonestly pushing porn sites while feeding on other peoples' misfortunes. Yeah, you're a real Christian allright.
Luke Attacks The Livelihood Of Disabled Women
Luke writes on Netpond (http://www.netpond.com/msgboard/): Why don't one of you rich porners take over my site l-keford.com, and pay me a whole pile of money and I will sell out my moral principles and just write positive things about the adult industry?
Dravyk replies: We won't, cause you can't sell what you ain't got.
Brad Shaw replies: Luke, I will buy you a one way ticket to Israel, if you agree to destroy your computer.
Melody Clark from Canada replies to Luke: Rich porners? I'm not rich. I'm not even "well off". You're trying to destroy the only industry where a disabled woman such as myself can earn a decent living. I wrote freelance for years, published a lot, and barely did 15K a year. Hope you're happy with yourself, Luke. I know for a fact you've run porn sites yourself. For myself, I run small softcore free sites to generate traffic. My moral principles are as sound as yours...maybe better, since I don't viciously set out to destroy good businesspeople simply because I can't stand my own skin.
Luke replies: Regarding Melody's accusations: I've never run a porn site. And I have not sought to dig up dirt on any MaxCash personae. Or at least, no more than I do to anyone else in the industry. I look for good stories. I think that so longer as you guys produce good whack material, your private lives are your own business.
Luke posts on Netpond: "Please people, let's stop all the infighting. Don't you guys realize that the FTC is monitoring this board? Your reckless words and endangering people's livelihoods. This is no longer a laughing matter. Can't we all just get along?"
Anthony replies on Netpond: I have never lost it on the boards. Luke F-rd, you are a f---ING IDIOT! Take your model 19 SW, put in a Black Talon, place the barrel in your mouth, and do the rest of us a favor. You instigate with your reckless "Journalism", and now you want to be the Dove Peace? Go away.
Melody replies: Luke, I believe your last post was your final undoing. You're a mean, vicious bastard, and I REALLY hope someone digs up the leather prissy pants in your closet. I've got a business to run. Someone else keep punching him. He's on the ropes, so to speak. (Wanna have a go, Lee?)
WilliamC writes on Netpond: Luke: Ill pay for you to go to a shrink of my choosing and he guarantees me electro shock therapy is included....
Trev writes: Luke you're domain name, real name, mothers maiden name are no longer worth s--- after you're RJBTelecom reportage, you are now firmly embeded in my and many other minds as a pure dick! Disappear LUKE!
Melody posts on Netpond: You're a liar. You told the producers of Infinity Factory that you ran two porn sites.
>And I have not sought to dig up dirt >on any MaxCash personae.
Oh, I don't think you want to go there. I could expose you rather quickly on that one. Our personal lives? Excuse me, dearie, but you're well-known for using people's real names in material on the industry. You're on record for urging censorship and witch hunts. What was that again?
Luke replies: I told Infinity Factory that I operate two websites about porn - www.l-keford.com and www.4porn.net. I have not had anything to do with www.4porn.net since early 1999. Neither of them are porn sites. They are sites about porn. Just like the Simon Weisenthal Center operates web sites on hate on the internet. These are not hate sites per se.
Yes, I would like to have you reveal your evidence that I have sought to dig up dirt on MaxCash personae. I seek good stories and if someone's private behavior becomes flagrantly public, or if people want to post publicly that so and so is a crack head, then I will report on that. But I have not sought dirt on MaxCash personae. I don't remember doing so, but often it becomes such second nature to me that I forget. So please remind me.
Dravyk writes on Netpond: >>> your private lives are your own business.
Weren't you the f--- reporting about one person's alleged drug use, and another's alleged fondness for prostitutes just one week ago??? You really are the most worthless, lying, piece of s--- to ever have crawled up from the toilet bowl. Now flush off!!! Sorry, but like you Anthony, I've just about had it with this talking feces.
Trev writes on Netpond: Very true Luke you didn't dig... you just published bulls---!! either you're own or some other complete assholes!! why are you still here?
Melody writes on Netpond: Ah, Luke, you say that because you know I can't reveal the information, as I told your contact. I also said it was none of your business, so I'm not about to reveal it here. You specifically stated that you "did the porner thing" yourself to make a living. You also PROFIT from porn sites, dearie. Yet another revealing article about the Porn King who closets himself behind scorn: http://www.forward.com/BACK/2000/00.01.07/fastforward.html
Lee Noga writes on Netpond: WOO WEE, another NetPond trainwreck, so many seem to be addicted, sit in front of puter and reload 100 time a day, 7 days a week...why is Luke any different, he deals in trainwrecks....whether the text is true or not, its entertaining BUT....I could not make RB or CE my story for reporting from "anon" sources and using Plan B "Entertainment" as my reasons for being reckless in Plan A. Maybe anons are accurate, dunno its one area of this business I could not do, and would not do.
But, this is the edge that makes Luke F-rd have his place on the web, 6500 uniques a day tell the story and make his purpose justifiable, he has a perceived value, Insite Investments affirmed this by dedicating 2 shows to roast him. Whether negative or positive, its all good for Luke. Insite has record breaking streams over the weekend for doing it, Luke slamfests are a great marketing tool, you use him as much as he uses you Mr. JohnIP, its all good.
As I have said, for those that take RB's banners down, take them down for the right reasons, and thats decided by you and not any form of media/entertainment. But don't take them down because you silently have chosen to convict RJB from media coverage. If I had sites, my banners for MaxCash would fly like an eagle and I don't give a s--- what the news says.
As for all the accusations about Ron Levi, JoeE and everyone else, I could careless until accusations become fact, and the gravy train ends. Isn't that the real issue, whether or not your bottom lines change?
Luke F-rd and Sin City To Make A Deal?
From Gene Ross Extreme: Luke F-rd and Sin City may be this close to making a deal, Sin City picking up Ford’s salary and bandwidth. Ford admits that there is a deal in the works. When contacted this morning, Ford had this to say:
Ford: “Let me just say, I hope so. I hope we’re close to a deal. I’ve been casting myself out there hoping someone would swallow me. I think that they [Sin City] are the only company with enough of a twisted sense of humor that they could take me on. I don’t think there are many, if any other companies in the industry that would consider it. We’ll see.”
Luke writes: Dear Gene:
Why must there be so much fighting and mudslinging in this industry? Aren't we all in it together? Please people!
Gene, I love your column but I'm concerned about a couple of items. You're reporting on my tentative deal with Sin City might cost me this high paying gig. And the photo next to the story of me wielding a gun does not add to my professional reputation. That also could cost me dollars.
Does Luke Practice Irresponsible Journalism?
Some leading members of the adult entertainment industry today complained that Luke F-rd practices irresponsible journalism.
Rich Botto (RB) of RJB Telcom writes Luke: "I see you are already being irresponsible. You listed half of what I said...Additionally, I am not one of your XXX anons."
Luke replies: "How do you want me to list what you said? If you want me to list everything, I will happily. I attributed some of it to XXX because I made a guess that you would rather not have everything you've written me quoted. I make guesses/decisions when I have a lot of communication with people...because we often do not clearly delineate what is on the record, what is off the record and what is not for attribution. So, to keep on good terms with my sources, I make guesses on what they want attributed to them, and what they don't. If you'd prefer to have me quote everything you've written, I will gladly do that. I would prefer that."
RB writes Luke: "You've published every single story you've heard, so why not the one I've deemed most accurate? You send me a letter and ask me to comment...I do and you make no mention...Strange, no?
"You can print it all, brother...These are my opinions. I'm not one of your asshole, (sometimes) faceless anons. Remember that."
Luke replies: OK, thanks. I will print it all. At times, I send stories to people for comment before I publish them. I emailed you a week ago when this broke before I posted to anyone... I will gladly and happily print prominently everything you and yours want to send me.
As you know, I have almost no friends in the industry. I have not sought them. This allows me to go after almost any story that I find.
If I do have friends in the industry, depending on how you define "friend," Ron Levi would be one of them. Which does not mean I won't go after him on this story or any story, but I just want to be open and honest. CE [Ron Levi] has been very good to me over the years.
Many people in adult have been good to me and most probably feel that I have burned them - in the sense that just because they have been good to me does not mean, from my perspective, that I will spare them when the story goes against them. My primary allegiance is to the STORY, wherever it goes.
The way most reporters work is that we instinctively tend to protect our sources...but our final allegiance must be to the STORY.
Usually I call it as I see it. Sometimes I pull my punches.
I do find it very difficult to believe that Ron Levi could or would inform on RJB to the FTC.
Ron Levi and his company had no comment on these charges. They refuse to reply to anonymous accusations.
Webmasters Freak Over MaxCash
RJB Telcom's webmaster affiliate program MaximumCash.com is probably the industry's largest. Ten days ago, the Federal Trade Commission (FTC) charged RJB was fraud and took a temporary receivership of the company. Internet pornographers are freaked about how this could affect their income from MaxCash.
I hear that Ron Levi of Cybererotica.com will fly to Las Vegas next week for Adultex to meet with Rich Botto from RJBT.
Ron was not planning to go, but now he's decided that he needs to meet with RB to work things out face to face.
RB writes that JW's letter alleging that Ron Levi sold out RJBT to the FTC is 95% accurate.
VeryConcerned writes on Netpond: Does anyone know if this PROPOSED restraining order has been approved by the courts: http://www.ftc.gov/os/2000/10/rjbtelcomtroorder.pdf
If so, it looks REAL REAL BAD for Maxcash, that TRO includes total asset freezes, etc etc
Alyssa@RJBTelcom.com writes on Netpond: As RB stated on the board a couple of days ago, it is business as usual over here. We will release more information when it is possible for us to do so.
JustReading writes on Netpond: Aly, Business as usual doesnt mean a dead checking link for 5 days? That is not rjb style to have the #1 paysite have a link on the join page dead for 5 days.. Has Epoch ended checking for everyone or just rjb?
Alyssa@RJBTelcom.com writes on Netpond: justreading ~ Yes the check link is not functional - Perhaps webmasters should call Epoch/Paycom and ask them why the link is dead considering there are no allegations of checking fraud in the complaint against RJB. My opinion is that Paycom has absolutely no risk processing a check signup for RJB.
For those with short term memories, let me remind you that Max Cash has always compensated their webmasters fairly and timely for any disruption or problems with signups, regardless of whether it was in their control or not. I have to believe that history will repeat itself in this situation.
Luke F-rd writes on Netpond: Please people. Let's not have any fighting. Aren't we all in this together? I don't understand why there is so much industry disharmony.
Raw Alex writes: Luke, because assholes like you spend their entire time driving wedges between people. At least your not a "Looser".
Melody Clark writes on Netpond: Luke, what in hell are you talking about? You're out to destroy the industry, oh Mr "porn is to the soul what smoking is to the lungs". What do you care about disharmony? Besides, do you or do you not have two porn sites? Or did they not make any money and now you're doing this?
WilliamC writes: Luke go look at porn and whack yerself into a frenzy or something.
RB writes: I'm an Italian with a long memory. Enough said.
JoeE of CENCash.com replies on Netpond: Well I'm a Jew with a memory lapse and stuck in a previous time warp;-)))
Wait till November 19- Your memories of the previous Jets game will be a nightmare;-)))) Man that game hurt! Call???
Is Luke In Tight With Ron Levi?
JW writes on Netpond at 12:38 PM PST: Funny. Luke is on here posting everything today. Naked pictures, etc.
But the one thing he has not posted is the serious letter I sent to him this morning. Just goes to confirm my theory that Luke is in quite tight with Ron. Here is the letter.
Luke:
Finally time to tell you what is really going on with the RJB shakedown. First, let me say I'm not someone who has a hard-on for them or anyone else in this business, but I do consider myself a top 10 player for sure. I have nothing to gain or lose by telling you this, but unless I do it anonymously I will totally destroy my business relationships with those mentioned below.
Let me start by saying that I don't know every fact, but more than enough to see through all this.
There are several things at play here. One is the that the federal government does not have the power to regulate porn the way they would like to, through legislation, so they had to find another way. There has been an influx of cash into the FTC and other agencies as of late, and with this being an election year, what better timing than to come out with the Top Ten Dot Com Scams a week or so before the elections. If you read the FTC press release and have half a brain, you probably can figure out that the "scams" they uncovered are not even close to the largest scams out there on the net. The feds did a sloppy job and I believe we will see that in the long run. The door is still open though, and there are other agencies, such as the DOJ, poised to attack the adult internet.
Is Visa working with the FTC?
Could be. I know from a very good source that RJB's chargeback rate since 1999 has been under 2.5% overall and that they hardly qualify as a major offender. I have done business with RB and company and know they are light years ahead in customer service, fraud control and business practices. What you see in public is just a hint of the tight ship they run inside. Problem with our industry is not consumer fraud, it's webmasters who take advantage of programs like Max Cash, who end up as much of a victim as the consumer. Every one of us that run such a program knows this to be the hard truth.
So why RJB?
First, they are the biggest. Period. Nothing looks better for the FTC and their Dot Com campaign than going after the biggest. If anything this sends a signal and makes it appear that they are doing something productive. Problem is, they picked the wrong company. The FTC gets a few credit card fraud complaints and they are off to the races with accusations. Again, I know RJB and their principals well enough to know as a fact that the fraud allegations are not only false, but can be literally blown out of the water with proof. The dialer issue is another story. Perhaps they thought that there was full disclosure on this product. Perhaps they took a risk because all they think about is their webmasters which I think they give too much back to. That remains to be seen.
Second, and more importantly, there are competitors that would like nothing more than to see RJB go under. Amazing to think that with enough traffic to go around, the major players all do business together that there should be a happy coexistence, but sometimes that is not true. When you have people like Ron Levy of Cybererotica involved, who's jealousy of RJB has been palpable since day one, the happiness ends. It has been known among the players that Ron despises RB and as is the case with Ron, he never hides it. Anyone that has dealt with him knows that the slightest thing can send him into an angry, nasty frenzy. There is not one person I know that hasn't had a war with him, including his partner Paul who is one of the nicest guys you will ever meet. Let's add to the mix that Levy has been quietly fighting with the FTC over several issues, and has been claiming all over the place that he has the FTC's blessings on all his sites. He has a "good relationship with someone in the FTC". He spoke openly at a workshop in May about working with the FTC to keep free memberships and on disclosure issues. He's been in bed with them for some time now trying to stay alive with "free" memberships and what better way to cure your own ills than to point the FTC in another direction? Most important thing to Levy is who has the biggest dick and who is #1 in market share.
I have also been told of a disturbing quote that was relayed to me by 3 different people (who heard it first hand). I would not have believed it except two of the three people are people I would trust with my life. Around May of this year, Jonathan Silverstein, President of Cybererotica (and former crony of Seth Warshevsky) was overheard at an "adult internet function" as saying "RJB has big problems coming and they will never make it through the month of October. Mark my words, I know." It has also been said that "Python is next to go down" was also stated. RJB coincidentally was served Oct 27. Seems many other people that travel in Levy's and Silverstein's circles knew that the FTC was investigating RJB for a "long time" yet from all I have heard, RJB had no clue.
Levy's win at all costs mentality has finally taken him too far. Now he, and other companies have to worry if RJB is going to blow the whistle on all the scams that are apparent in the adult industry, several of which point right back to CE among others. If RJB got consumer complaints, I can't imagine how many Levy has piled up from the double and triple site billing he was doing.
Good luck RJB, though I doubt you will need luck at all.
Luke writes on Netpond: Ron Levi had no comment on these charges. He refuses to reply to anonymous accusations.
I abstained from posting JW's letter on Netpond because I've been told not to post email on Netpond. But JW's letter deals with very serious allegations. I would like people's feedback. Feel free to privately and anonymously email me your opinion. I have a source at MaxCash who thinks that JW's letter is the most accurate thing I've yet received on this story.
JW's letter explicates on themes that RB, Melody and others have hinted at on this board. Earlier today I sent JW's letter to Ron and Johnathan and am waiting for their reply... Often I don't wait to give people a chance to respond to something, but this is so serious, i am giving them a chance.
Cybererotica.com President Johnathan Silverstein writes: Luke, This is BULLSH*T, utter BULLSH*T! Factless/faceless accusations and propaganda! JW is so readily able to name names - except they're own and they're "sources"! Credible? NOT! Here's a little bit of perspective: The following is in RESPONSE to a post I made last week on Netpond regarding "Larry Flynt On Stern With Bush Abortion Shocker"
"J$style$, I have 3 women and 2 goats who will testify before a court of law you sodimized a racoon while in New Orleans. Not only that, but they you forced the coon to pretend to be a Daniel Boone Hat to cover your bald head. Then you you shaved COERCED and BULLIED it into shaving his balls - while you chanted " I am El Presidente' dance you shaven Coon"
Now am I to beleive this?? Are others on the board to beleive it?? Oy Vey!
Melody writes on Netpond: Oh, so now you're doing your job, Luke? Because jw outted your email? Maybe you can 'splain why you went sniffing about for information on various Max Cash personae recently? How about doing that to other folk? I know for a fact that FM has been contacted for a statement about these allegations. The best way to deal with this is to get FM on the record about it. Perhaps a direct statement that he had nothing to do with it, which then can be verified? False allegations are the worst, about which RJB can speak too well. :((
LaidBack writes on Netpond: Does Luke F-rd have some sort of closed head injury we should know about???
Luke writes on Netpond: Actually, I did have a head injury at age 19 and according to my family, I have not been the same since. I wish I had enough money to pursue some proper medical and psychiatric care. Perhaps some of you rich porners could put in some dollars so I could get some much needed psychotherapy.
Why don't one of you rich porners take over my site l-keford.com, and pay me a whole pile of money and I will sell out my moral principles and just write positive things about the adult industry?
Melody writes: Take a look at a little article from Hustler -- and who they gave their "asshole of the month" award. Why is ANYONE in the industry dealing with this muckraker? http://www.pornlegends.com/mag/luke01.html
Rich Botto Speaks Out
Rich Botto (RB) of RJB Telcom writes Luke: "Just keep up your irresponsible reporting. Haven't seen one accurate depiction yet...I would expect nothing less from your "sources" however. Most of them are well known. Having an agenda is one thing, but you better cover your tracks. Knowledge is king and right now I am sitting on a s---load of knowledge. Some people have been very, very sloppy in their plotting."
Luke replies: RB, I did print voluminously the supportive comments made about you on Netpond... I think what i ended up publishing was 50-50...with most of your critics being those who did not want to be named (as is typical)...and those who put their names on comments, were overwhelmingly supportive of you.
Though i do try to keep my site entertaining, I published most everything interesting or provocative i could find on your situation, or any relevant situation i cover...
From my perspective, I simply want an interesting and exciting story, and to cut to the chase of what people are really thinking and saying (rather than PR hype).
I told a Wired.com reporter that this FTC vs RJBT is the most significant story yet in the history of the adult web. I'm convinced that we're only scratching the surface of it.
As I have very limited personal involvement in this industry, I have limited personal agenda beyond crafting an entertaining and revealing story.
You've always been courteous to me and I appreciate that.
I realize that I have printed many nasty and harsh comments about your company. It's my modus operandi.
I'm not a businessman. I'm not a conventional journalist. I'm a story teller/entertainer/lunatic.
I've stated almost nothing on your situation. I publish the thoughts and opinions of others. I don't expect you not to harbor ill feeling to me over this. I don't expect anything from you. But to look at this on a deep level, you will see that I act primarily as a conduit for others views, and as an instigator, yes. But not as an originator.
RB replies: "No s---...I've been courteous and you've stated opinions and non facts as well as BS comments regarding my company...That will be remembered. Not everything I saw posted had quotes around it, Luke."
Luke replies: "True... I am rather sloppy with my attributions and quotes and journalistic protocol...but I am still just talking to people and repeating back and summarizing what they say... Yes, I have to be (legally and morally) responsible for what I publish. I am. I publish what people tell me, and as time goes by, I can weed the wheat from the chaff. This story is very much alive and ongoing."
RB writes: "Sure, the story is alive...very much so. But, as I mentioned in my statement, in my opinion we will be vindicated. And, we hope to assist the FTC in every way possible. Look, you're not exactly Mike Wallace (I think most people think of you as some sort of cartoon character). And I know you thrive on attention. But, you can show a little accountability from time to time."
Luke writes: "I've stated almost nothing on your situation. I publish the thoughts and opinions of others. I don't expect you not to harbor ill feeling to me over this. I don't expect anything from you. But to look at this on a deep level, you will see that I act primarily as a conduit for others views, and as an instigator, yes. But not as an originator. So can you clarify if you are in receivorship? Did the FTC win its TRO vs you?"
RB replies: "Not commenting any further except to say that nothing has been won or lost yet. Don't believe the hype, Luke...I haven't seen one thing close regarding this situation until that letter you sent me this morning. That's about 95% accurate. As for all the other stuff you've asked me about, amazing what people will do or say in times like this...That's alright though...I've received a great deal of information and I have a mental list a mile long...I'm an Italian with a long memory. Enough said.
Luke Does The Lord's Work
Luke says: Those are pictures of me with my wife (at a time when she wasn't menstruating and hence permitted to me by Torah Law).
Big Dawg writes on Netpond: Luke F-rd eh? Nice photos... I assume that is his wife, being the strong religious person that he is...I'd hate to think he'd be frolicing with "satans little devils"...* laughs*
Chaim writes: Is the Mrs. jewish? Who performed the wedding ceremony?
PS A pretty good start, but only that. You should be an actor. You want to be an actor. You have the talent to be an actor, and a good one at that. What better way of getting your first break than by doing some porn? And how better to understand that which you would destroy, than by getting yourself wet?
Luke: You forget so quickly Chaim. It was you, Rabbi Amalek who performed the ceremony. And don't you feel bad giving intentionally destructive advice to a vulnerable psychologically disturbed MOT?
Chaim replies: Good advice, not bad. I mean, it isn't as though I urged you to publish accusations that some young shiksa was having relations with her pet Akita. So judgemental and twisted are you, that it is no wonder that you vote republican, as per your gentile roots.
JEWS OF Luke F-rd LAND - VOTE FOR THE LANDSMAN LIEBERMAN AND DEFEND THE PORN WE ALL KNOW AND LOVE! Remember - PORNERS MUST LIVE!
PS Is Persian Kitty as hot looking as your wife? How does your wife feel about your efforts to woo Persian Kitty?
Luke: We have an open relationship. Love is our one ethical criteria. All forms of sex are permitted so long as it is loving. That's our interpretation of Biblical ethics.
Rumdar writes: Luke.... Chaim is right. Your wife doesn't look a bit Jewish. But then again I wasn't looking at her face. Jugs like those could raise Moses from the dead.
Isabella writes: You are a funny boy Luke. So, who is the girl really? You are so confusing, why would you put naked pics of you on the site? (Having said that...nice tanlines!) Ahhh, this is what keeps them tuning in. Please tell me this is not who you really are.
Luke replies: It is not who I really am... It was a youthful indiscretion... Last summer I went skinny dipping with a couple of porn stars. That's Shelle Pearson.. I do remember the woman I was dating at the time, somehow came across an article about me that day in the Los Angeles Times, and clicked over to my website and was appalled by the pictures. Which about ended things. Jewish women can be so not understanding at times.
Isabella writes: Ended things....goes to prove your statement that women want to be the last. Yes, she looked rather pornish...meow! Oh well, youthful indiscretions are part of who we are. At least we are always growing-I hope.
Webmistress@PersianKitty.com writes on Netpond: All this discussion made me go read a bit on l-keford.com and now I'm baffled. I found the following..
"PS Is Persian Kitty as hot looking as your wife? How does your wife feel about your efforts to woo Persian Kitty? " and "Indeed, a date with Luke is a truely sexless affair, as XXX, Japster and now Persian Kitty can confirm."
Okay.. now what am I missing here? (totally clueless look)
Luke says: Dear PK: After all that we shared, how could you diss me like that? In public no less. You've humiliated me in front of all my peers. Just hours after you pledged to me your heart and soul. Oh, the shame. The shame.
Webmistress@PersianKitty.com replies: Luke, you must have me mistaken for some alleycat.
Jeannie Rivers - Brothel Patrons Speak Out
Interested Oct-06, 11:03 AM (PST) "Jeanie Rivers at Kitty's" Has anyone visited Pornstar jeanie rivers at Kittys? Report?
Went to Tahoe Oct-14, 01:13 AM (PST) 5. "RE: Jeanie Rivers at Kitty's" Yes! Jeanie Rivers is awsome. Sweet personaility and great smile. I partied with her during her first week there.
Kama Sutra Oct-09, 11:55 AM (PST) 2. "RE: Jeanie Rivers at Kitty's" I did party with her. She's got the homecoming princess/star cheerleader looks and beautiful deep tanned teenager body. If you could freeze time you'd want to treasure the moment performing doggie with her while looking in the mirror. Hot and heavenly. You'd be lucky to have enough for a second cum after that
Goodheartguy Oct-20, 03:55 PM (PST) 8. "RE: Jeanie Rivers at Kitty's" Did she let you french kiss her? Did you eat her pussy? Please let me know. Thanks.
Kama Sutra Oct-21, 02:44 PM (PST) 9. "RE: Jeanie Rivers at Kitty's" No, but I didn't ask either. She did tell me she's looking for more regular clients to make her stay at Kitty's more worthwhile. She did porn (starting at age eighteen) for about three years with the likes of Randy West (e.g., Up and Cummers # 70, Dirty Debutantes w/Ed Powers, etc.). She's really sweet! I've been going to the brothels for over ten years, and I've never seen a more physically stunning or beautiful lady than Jeanie! She really has the high school homecoming princess looks!
interested Oct-10, 07:57 AM (PST) 4. "RE: Jeanie Rivers at Kitty's" Was Jeanie extremely expensive?
Kama Sutra Oct-21, 02:54 PM (PST) 10. "RE: Jeanie Rivers at Kitty's" She's in between regular LPIN's and the Porn Stars at MLBR. She's expensive, but willing to negotiate, if you are looking for a more reasonable price. You can pay $250 for a quickie or $500/$600 for an hour long party. It's up to you to negotiate. The porn star rates at MLBR are roughly $400 for 15-30 minute quicky to $2,000 per hour. So, you can see she's reasonable. Click here: NV Brothels Discussion Forum
A Plea To Gene Ross
Luke recently mused about Gene Ross's new freedom at Extreme and Gene responded.
Luke said: "Gene has the freedom now. He's out from under AVN's corporate thumb. He can write scripts, act in front of the camera, even do sex scenes."
Gene responded: "Would I act in front of the camera? Depends on the girl, depends on the money. Depends on a lot of things."
Dave Cummings implores: "In the name of all that is holy, I beg Gene not to engage in on camera sex! Leave that to us younger studs."
Porn Bellies
Pat Riley writes on RAME: Frank, you don't know anything of the sort. 14 months (actually 6 months) is quite enough for a healthy firm-bodied young-but-not-too-young female to regain belly muscle tone after delivery. The reasons (I suspect, but it's a touchy subject for women generally) we see so many damaged bellies in porn is because of the poor lifestyle of the girls before entering (and perhaps now) porn and maybe a set of poor quality genes. It's the easiest thing in the world for a pregnant women to treat herself and others around her to treat her as an invalid leading to the accumulation of excessive fat and the loosening of abdominal muscles. After delivery getting rid of the fat and tightening up the muscles is a bitch of a job. Personally, I had my wife picking cotton, dawn to dusk, right up until an hour or so before delivery.
For an example of good recovery and no belly damage have a look at Mariah Kane. She allegedly has an infant son which I guess, based on her breast condition, she had less than six months prior to her first movie. No belly damage, no sag, no stretch marks, and of course, no C-section. The latter is not due to the lie-back-and-become-a-whale approach but, one suspects, is the easier way out for many self-indulgent females and their obstetricians. (If you want to argue this check out the pregnancy groups.)
Linda Lovelace - True Hollywood Story
The E! channel does a True Hollywood Story on Linda Lovelace Sunday at 9PM. I'm interviewed along with Linda's ex-husband Chuck Traynor, journalist Eric Danville and porners Bill Margold and Gloria Leonard.
Curious writes: Hey, I saw you on the promo for the Linda Lovelace: E! True Hollywood Story. That's pretty cool. So have you stocked up on baby oil and tissues for when you watch Sunday night?
Luke says: I thought I came across as the most skeptical of Linda Lovelace's claims of victimhood.
Rob writes Luke: I just finished watching the E! True Hollywood Story on Linda Lovelace and I was impressed by the amount of face time you got. Congratulations! One question, any insight as to why Ms. Lovelace is coming out of hiding now? Does she have a new book to pimp or something? And what was up with that goofy sexologist, Ava Cadell? What did she have to add to the story?
ps Any truth that you will be appearing on E!'s "Wild On The Golan"?
Stephanie Star (www.fitladies.com/sstarr) writes: I must be terribly bored this evening, but what the hell. In a massive effort to avoid completing my latest screenplay outline, I flipped on E true hollywood stories. And like your typical bord American stuffed with mindless drivel, I decided to seek more of it. So I grabed the computer I'd been avoiding most of the day and linked on-line to view your webpage (bet you were wondering when I'd get to the point.)
So - the site is full of porn invites ... and a biography stating you are against it. Huh? Color me strange (and that wouldn't be a far pitch) but how can you condemn and yet seek out something simultaneously? Not to pass judgement (I'm an odd garble of bizare behaviors at best myself) but isn't that a rather uncomfortable line to walk? I've made the personal choice not to venture into porn films - but I can't say I'm agaist them if both parties are willing. One more morbid curiousity - what's up with the revolver?
Luke: A gun is the language that many threatening porners understand best.
Steve Neece writes: Question, Luke. While you champion organized religion you seem unwilling to deal with the fact that a disproportionate number of female performers are from either Catholic or Fundementalist upbringings. There aren't a whole lot who mention being brought up as atheists. A few embrace it as adults but most were not brought up as such. It is hard to deny that Linda Lovelace was a victim of Catholic self hatred long before she met Chuck Traynor. The segment practically screams it and even you had to admit her mother was vicious and abusive besides being a borderline schizo ( library books as germ transmitters !!?? How Catholic in her hatred of books. Subconsciously, I think she feared books because the ideas therein can be contagious. That was/is certainly Catholic doctrine and has been for centuries). Do you ever think they enter porn because they have already been brainwashed into thinking they are intrinsically worthless and evil? Does it bother you that it could be said that porn expresses Jewish hatred for gentiles and female gentiles in particular. I challenge you, who has more hatred and contempt for women than an Orthodox Jew? A Moslem? A Christian fundie? A Catholic? Whoever does, the bottom line is they all grew from the same poisonous tree.
Curious writes GeneRossExtreme.com: Gene, I am sure that you watched Luke F-rd on the E! True Hollywood story on Linda Lovelace last night and I am eager to know which you preferred: Luke's shaggy, blow dried mullet look or Luke's slicked back Guido hairdo? (Be careful on your response, as you know, the mullet is the preferred hairstyle of most wrestling fans and the slick look is the favored hairstyle of all your numerous mobster friends.)
Gene sez: “Since my mobster friends are currently in the majority, I’ll have to go with the slick Luke-style."
ELASTIN2: u look so handsome on E!
Luzdedos1: :)
ELASTIN2: so do u get recognized alot these days
Luzdedos1: rarely
ELASTIN2: i bet u could make a decent living in gayporn
Luzdedos1: lol
ELASTIN2: id like to see some of them rape videos with Linda
ELASTIN2: too bad shes a skank now
ELASTIN2: there u r again
ELASTIN2: only problem is i dont know if u r making the stuff up
Arch Stanton writes: Luke, saw you on E. You handsome bastard. If I was a woman or gay you'd by plowing my ass right now. :^) Well, you'd have to convert to catholicism first of course. It wouldn't be right other wise. Say, Heather Barron is cute. Love that beautiful freckled face. Put a good word in for ol Arch next time you speak to her. Wer'e both from Boston. Maybe if I save up my nickels (after all I am a "nickelchaser") she'd let me pay her a visit.
Pointers For Luke's Next TV Appearance
Helpful writes: Pointers for your next TV appearance:
*Wear the yarmulke and prayer shawl on screen. How else are the sexy, single Jewesses in TV land to know your religious orientation?
*Consider posing holding a Jack Chick comic during your TV screen time. It will add to your credibility.
*Instead of having author of "A History of X" under your face while on screen insist they put "Hustler's Asshole of the Month." Again, it adds to your credibility.
*Stick with ONE hairstyle. The E! show vacillated between interviews with you in a shaggy mullet and the slicked back Guido look. It's too distracting and hints at the inner turmoil that racks your psyche.
*In future TV interviews try to resist the urge to begin your segment with, "I'd like to give a 'shout out' to all my homies on Fairfax!"
Overall I'd give your E! interview a "Fully Erect" rating with a pre-nom in "Best Non-Sex Scene."
What Are You Guys Smoking?
Goddess writes: Helpful, for Luke's future televison appearances, I implore you to change your ratings system. The fact that you gave Luke a "fully erect" is scaring the hell out of me...almost as much as that "renting a Zepplin and getting messages scrolled in the sky" comment Gene made.
Luke: I don't understand.
Goddess replies: Why am I scared? Oh, puh-leeze, Luke! That "renting a Zepplin" line sounded like Gene's been reading Danielle Steel novels, (brrrrr) and i should hope you can figure out why Helpful giving you a "fully erect" is scary:)
Luke: You sound very homophobic.
Goddess replies: Homophobic my ass. I'd be the first in line to watch you and Helpful go at it...
Helpful responds to Goddess: Can't a man compliment another man without it being misconstrued as a homosexual come on? This is the 21st century, Goddess, you homophobe!
(Luke Do NOT Print This Part: Concerning the nudes of you and the Mrs. My friend you have got a killer ass! )
Goddess writes: Homophobe my ass, Helpful! We both know Luke only deserved a half erect cock with some pre-cum dribbling out for that performance so stop trying to change the damn subject.
Anonymous writes Luke: I am someone you knew a long time ago. I was glad to see you on the E channel, looking very well and healthy. Not like I knew you when you suffered from CFS. Then I checked out your website and felt sorry for you all over again. You seem more lost than ever. Straying from your beliefs in Judiasm, lost in an industry that leads to nowhere but pain, doubt, shame and from your pictures, obviously fear for your own life. Do you feel that your value in life is so little? DO you truly find happiness living your life in Porn? I do wish you well!
China Lees
Abu writes: I have just watched the adult video entitle "Kink Inc." starring China Lee, Cumisha, Ginger Rogers and a black guy (forgot his name, really does not matter anyway). I am a bit confuse about China Lee, no doubt in this video she is one sensous babes. But there is another China Lee who did not even look like the one in the video (Kink Inc.). China Lee in this video look more American/Western than the other China Lee who looks more oriental. Are there two China Lee?? Please confirm.
