I just attended via phone, the press conference. Here’s some of what was said according to my memory & notes.
According to Weinstein-
"There is a full scale cover-up now underway!" We have filed these documents to "smoke out the facts" Brazzer’s is being named, but we don’t know for sure if that is where the exposure happened. But the filing is still valid because "Brazzers is making unsafe adult films."
"The FSC is not qualified to investigate a public health outbreak and they are refusing to cooperate with LA County. We are asking the county to demand from the FSC any information they are withholding."
We are asking the Florida Surgeon general to look into this also.
Weinstein’s lawyer (?), Brian says AHF wants LA to stop issuing permits to adult film companies. Brian also mentions the Employee/Workplace/Barrier protection rules. (NL-of course assuming adult performers are employees) Therefore condoms are required.
Brian says "The FSC is there to protect the interests of the producers of adult films. Letting the FSC investigate this is like the fox guarding the henhouse. "
NL- I also found it interesting that Weinstein mentioned several things "circulating in the underground" that are all from LIB.
What a lying, grandstanding sack of shit.
So an organization (FSC) that announced the incident, and publicly asked for a production moratorium, is engaged in a cover-up? If it were a cover-up, they would have kept it quiet and in-house, numb-nuts.
I repeat, what a sack of shit.
You’ll also recall that Weinstein — the man with an honorary degree from Whittier College — could not properly explain testing protocols in a way that the press could understand them (or that made any sense at all).
He is — and sounds — desperate; he’s not getting the support he wanted for his ridiculous ballot initiative from AHF’s usual institutional supporters, and he’s flipped his wig. He’s accusing everyone of everything.
In my opinion, Manwin will have NO choice now but to fuck him up.
Manwin and Fabian the Fuhrer have nothing to gain in going after this guy. Best evidence would be that there is no positive performer or the performer had a valid negative test but was positive later. I cant remember Weinstein saying anything about the Burts situation involving the producers, there his bullets were shot at AIM. I still say Burts got HIV from being a fruit hustler. Saw another unrelated story where Johnny Thrust is listed as an outside contractor for Jim Powers, bullshit, guess a female talent suffered chemical burns cause of Thrust, why arent Lane and his band of bozos called on the carpet for their on/off set bullshit.
Manwin has much to gain and much to lose. AHF is openly going after them.
Why the fuck is Whinestein making any public statements when no data is out yet and everything is still speculation? Oh yeah, we’re talking the corrupt multi-billion dollar AID$ industry, here and “non-profit” organizations like AHF where the average salary is 100 grand per year, with Whinstein living in a multi-million dollar home. It’s about health-scare, not health-care. That and their exorbitantly priced perpetual poison “therapies”. FUCK YOU, AHF!
@Jeremy – Because Weinstein has ZERO respect for medical privacy rights. He based his press conference upon gossip and scuttlebutt from GFY and Mike South’s site.
You’ll recall that AHF launched charges of “patient privacy” violations against AIM. Those claims are, again, ironic to the point of nausea, and, in my opinion, fully illustrate AHF’s shameless and outrageous hypocrisy. Especially when AHF had a huge medical privacy scandal of its own a couple of years ago, right here in California.
Although the law forbids unauthorized disclosures about a person’s HIV status, in 2009, AHF was illegally provided the names, and addresses of some 5,000 HIV-positive Medi-Cal recipients from The California Department of Health Care Services. Gay porn producer Paul Morris (whose company was also targeted by Weinstein), has said: “[Weinstein] believes that it’s perfectly acceptable for the government to covertly funnel extremely private information about the HIV status of patients of public clinics in order to bolster the client-list of AHF. Control trumps privacy for the *good* gay.”
Then there’s the lawsuit that AHF filed in 2009 on behalf of LACDPH against AIM, seeking release of the medical records of all performers purportedly involved in an the HIV scare from August of that year.
This is more bullshit from the same bullshitter.
Gossip and scuttlebutt… similar to how the foundation of the AID$ Mega-Empire is based on the scientific misconduct of it’s “discoverer”.
It’s a continuum.
You’ve been weighed in the balance and you found wanting / Your houses are built upon the sand
Can Larry Flynt find something on Weinstein? If Larry cant then this dope is teflon.
@Larry – This one’s for you. Manwin’s response to AHF’s lies:
http://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1036419
We need a Industry stimulus!! $$$$$
Here’s some more teleconference highlights:
#1) Dennis Romero, LA Weekly: You guys are calling this an outbreak, but it’s just one positive. How would you explain that?
Michael Weinstein: “I don’t know how many people have to be infected to be called an outbreak, but somebody infected the person who tested positive, so that’s at least two people involved, and there are possible exposures, according to what’s being said in the underground, of up to 13, but we can’t confirm that.”
He DOESN’T KNOW how to define “an outbreak”, but he’s willing to hold a press conference and call this event an outbreak. He also doesn’t have any authoritative, legally provided evidence that ANYONE has definitively tested positive — yet he asserts it as truth. His source — a gossip thread on GFY. Amazing.
#2) Q: People are arguing that since this happened outside of California and LA, they’re saying that the system here works and that most of the positives have happened outside of California; what’s your response?
Weinstein: “According to Los Angeles County, there have been 10 people who have tested positive in Los Angeles since 2005. That’s disputed by the porn press, but that is the number that LA County say tested positive within the industry in Los Angeles since 2005.”
AHF counsel Brian Chase: “Regardless of where somebody contracted HIV, if they’re working within the industry, odds are they’re going to come back to porn valley and work there and potentially expose other folks.”
The “porn press” disputes it because it’s not true, cocksucker.
“Odds are” — that’s a rationale? Not just that but, odds are they’ll POTENTIALLY expose others?
#3) Dennis Romero: Do you believe this particular performer contracted this on set or off set or does it matter?
Chase: “We have no way of knowing, but it doesn’t matter. What matters is protecting people on sets with condoms.”
It doesn’t matter? Really?
I think Weinstein has deeper pockets unless AHF drops him, Thylmann better hire real lawyers if he sues, not the typical porn valley lawyers…and some of those are in FLA too. I know one he should not hire cause the lawyer would be on trial before Fabian. Manwin is best to go shopping in DC or NYC, I imagine Weinstein would have the best in LA or SF and I bet nearly pro bono.
Here’s Weinstein — the man with an honorary degree from Whittier College — trying to explain HIV testing, what was done wrong, and why AHF system is so much better:
Weinstein: “Labs work 24 hours a day, seven days a week. I don’t know the particular lab they were using or what the situation is, but I mean, it is possible to get a confirmation—I mean, in the test sites that AHF operates, for example, we presume a person is positive if they have two different Rapid tests. I mean, when you have two different Rapid tests, for example, the statistical possibility that that person is not positive is infinitesimal. So that would be one way to make it a much shorter period of time to actually start getting the other people in to be tested. I mean…”
Here is the description of the Orasure test AHF uses, directly from the manufacturer’s website:
– OraSure is not as accurate as a blood test — for example, it will miss finding 1 to 2 people with HIV out of 100 positive persons tested
– as with blood tests, six to twelve weeks must pass after infection has occurred before enough antibodies have been produced for the test to detect them
– an OraSure test performed three months after the potentially infectious event (sex without a condom or shared intravenous drug needles/equipment) is about 95% accurate
– a test at 6 months will be the most accurate
– all positive rapid result tests require us to draw a blood test as a confirming test.
Okay, as you can see, Orasure is an ELISA-type anti-body test with a window period of 3 to 6 months, with 6 months being the gold standard. It’s about 95% accurate at 90 days. The PCR-DNA is 95% accurate at TEN days. AHF’s claims — and their protocols — are full of shit.
Q: “But assuming they don’t do that, there are other tests that do take longer, right?”
Weinstein: “Well, there are less effective or efficient methods, but in an emergency, you would think you would use the best practice that’s available.”
To quote Ernest Greene, a former director of AIM, on the matter: “In an emergency, Orasure would be like calling in the UN for a traffic accident. What we have used in the past is a combination of two PCR-DNA tests, a Western Blot and an ELISA to cover all bases. That does take more time, usually a few days. And in past cases, ELISAs have turned up negative on new cases with viral loads in the tens of thousands. Anyone who walks away from an ELISA of any sort with a negative result and feels safe is delusional unless they’ve had no no sexual partners in half a year. Hardly workable for our community. FSC IS using the best practices available.”
In other words, since the patient in this instance is allegedly a NEW infection, the procedure Weinstein recommends would be THE STUPIDEST thing in the world to do, because the patient would not have had time to develop the anti-bodies which could be picked up by one or two or a thousand Rapid tests at this point in time. What a fucking idiot.
And all this is aside from the issue that Jeremy raises — that no HIV test is definitive. They ALL require confirmatory testing.
But regardless, if you recommend using an anti-body test on someone who, even under your own paradigm, did not have the time to develop anti-bodies, you are a fucking idiot.
Correct Michael. You can believe “HIV” has been isolated in some lab and that it causes a bunch of old diseases nor relabled “AIDS” and that the necessary “medicine” has death as a side-effect… that’s fine… but the tests themselves are a scam. Read the label. This are no confirmatory tests. They are all presumptive and in the court of law presumptions do not equal guilt or in this case, being “positive”. You can’t convict based on “probably”. That means they have no fucking clue. That’s why there are so many “false positives”. Don’t just subscribe to something because that’s what you’ve been told for years and years and years. That’s not enough of a reason in light of evidence which disproves the tests veracity.
nor = now sorry