Op/ed by The Colonel
I just checked in, and I have to admit I am disappointed and shocked by this article posted on LukeIsBack, a web site that both the adult industry workers and fans read on a daily basis. If this conspiracy theory was posted on fringe blogs that claim the world is being run by shape shifting, blood drinking lizards, or that Lee Harvey Oswald was a Soviet robot, that wouldn’t be too surprising, or more importantly, dangerous and damaging. Imagine a fresh off the bus girl who comes to Los Angeles to get into porn and make some quick cash. She has no real life experiences, no scientific knowledge, nothing. Then she’s unfortunate enough to check out this web site and read this *industry bombshell* and be convinced by its baseless, irresponsible, reckless, unscientific claims. Next thing you know, she catches HIV, on a porn set, during a private encounter, how ever. Since she’s been convinced by this article that HIV is a myth, therefore she does not seek treatment for her symptom which eventually turns into AIDS and kills her. Cindi, Jeremy Steele and Clark Baker, you will be directly responsible for such tragedy.
I have nothing personal against any of you, and have no desire to get into piss fights with anybody. So I’ll ask Jeremy Steele, Clark Baker and anybody else who denies scientific HIV facts a direct, simple question for which I expect a direct, simple response: Are you willing to prove your claims by exposing yourselves to HIV virus? Will you agree to prove your claims by being injected with the blood of a HIV positive patient, record that on film, and chronicle your next steps? In other words, will you agree to knowingly and willingly contract HIV and treat your symptom how ever you suggest it must be treated so you can blow the lid off this conspiracy, as you claim, once and for all?
In 2004, Morgan Spurlock claimed that McDonald’s foods are unhealthy. In order to prove his claim, he made a documentary movie titled: Super Size Me. In it, Spurlock put himself on a McDonald’s diet, recorded his daily activities and the negative changes that diet had on his health (weight gain, increase in cholesterol, mood changes, etc.) Are you willing to make a similar documentary in which you’ll be injected by HIV positive blood and then chronicle your life on film for a certain period? If not, explain why. Enough with conspiracy rants and new age hippie slogans. Conclude a documented study and make a stand for what you claim you believe.
Colonel,
Beleive it or not,,nice t see you again.
the best thing to do is just ignore this bullshit.
This guy hastnt gotten this much attention in two years. Please, if we(and I include myslef) just ignore these people they will go away and find some other forum to spout their garbage.
I’m glad ot see you dont subscibe to this ideology.
Nice to see you again.
Who is Clark Baker, from what I see is that he is just a Private Investigator, if he was a MD AND a medical ethicist I would take his word seriously. Of course we do have people who believe in UFOs who do have Phd’s from real schools not whatever crap diploma mill Dr Mitch got hers from. Would it kill Dr Mitch to go to a real brick and mortar school and at least get a BS in Biology? Arent there real state schools in porn valley. The biggest screw up with HIV was that we could have traced it back to its origins but blew it. Thanks Colonel. Steele, get back to 9/11, HIV is real, organized medicine made it worse, but its almost a manageable chronic condition now but still with the potential of a 100% mortality. Who is patient zero and what are his sexual practices and psychological and physical state, as a porn worker that may be valuable shit to know, like the lady last year.
Thank you Joe and it’s nice to see you, too.
And Larry, Clark Baker (AKA Barker) is some two bit, no good, no class, cheap private dick who tries to cash in on people’s lack of knowledge and make a pathetic buck. Once I knew a private investigator, we used to hang out at a bar in Hollywood. He was telling me stories about his clients and how easily he milks them for cash. For instance he used to tell me about this guy who was calling him in the middle of the night, claiming the aliens have just landed at his backyard. Then the private investigator was going to this client’s home to fool around at his backyard for the evidence of alien landing and charge him $500 bucks. I wish I was making this up, but it’s true. Clark Baker (AKA Barker) is in the same category, but far worse. To hell with him.
Larry,
I put up a link here, somewhere, to one of Clarks websites. It lists his ‘resume”
He is also a certified scuba diver, member of a Legionarsirs post, and on the committe to ‘Save the official Seal” of some city. A marine, and ex cop, and a certified douchebag.
Thank God you came back, Colonel. My next step was to try and contact you. These people are the worst pieces of shit in the world. Many people in Africa (where I’m from) die because these hippie con-artists who want to be famous in their self-righteous crusade convince local governments not to take action on combating HIV with available drug treatment.
They take advantage of the fact that most people cannot look into an electron microscope to see a living sample of the virus and its interaction with blood cells.
I’m not including Jeremy. He’s a good guy who means well and has no personal profit agenda. But what he is saying is dangerous and I hope he wakes up.
Clark Baker,,,,also convicted of beating an handcufed JAYWALKING suspect. Fired by LAPD. Later rehired after conviction overturned on a technicality (the prosecutor mentioned Rodney King and Simi Valley) The facts of the case were proven.
Clark, what was your rank when you retired? And do you remember Dorothy Macintosh,,,because she sure remembers you. How did those anger management classes go for ya Clark?
Finally, some sanity. Colonel, they’re not going to “put their money where their mouth is” and the reason is simple: just because someone is stupid doesn’t mean they’re insane. None of those quacks have any proof to support their claim, no advanced degrees in medicine or molecular biology. It’s just spouting off nonsense. Even an idiot who was told the gun he was handed was empty would check it before he put it to his head for Russian Roulette.
We’ve all seen the results of HIV/AIDS. Who in their right mind would want that? These deniers can spout their crap all they want, but not one of them would take the risk of contracting this horrible disease. This type of pure ignorance is dangerous.
Thank you for your comments, my friends.
There are things in this world that are far more dangerous than a loaded gun or a deadly disease, things like hypocrisy, ignorance and greed, things that Clive Bakers of this world are very familiar with. Talk is cheap when their own ass is not on the line, but the moment you ask them to come forward and back up their claims with their actions, they crawl into a hole like maggots. What a bunch of big, pathetic, fucking losers.
P.S: In any event, I’ll look forward to ClarK Baker’s HIV documentary in which he injects himself with HIV positive blood and takes us through his day to day life after his exposure to HIV. Hell, I even thought of a title for it. Check this out:
Clark Baker Presents: Positively Mine.
Wow. Just got in, lots of comments, new posts… First of all, there are many cases of nurses getting accidentally “infected”, but no AIDS. Also there was a Doctor Willner, MD. Ph.D, author of a book called “Deadly Deception: The Proof that Sex and HIV absolutely do not cause AIDS” who did exactly what you challenged me, Clark or anyone else to do. Strangely enough (ask yourself why) it was never covered in the U.S. media, although it got international media attention outside the U.S. As for me, I’m not going to commit occupational suicide, and because this shit has been drummed in our heads for years and years and years that means it’s a fact, jack, right? Uh huh, yeah right. Well, then someone go claim their big money prize if they can prove that HIV has been isolated as several websites offer. HEY THAT’S FREE MONEY! Then someone explain to me why the original credited discoverer of what was later called HIV, Luc Montagnier says HIV is harmless, or at worst can be successfully cured within weeks based on diet and water. Then someone tell me why Nobel Prize winner Kary Mullis says there exists no evidence HIV causes AIDS. And then someone please tell me HIV tests say the tests PRESUME HIV infection?
The AIDS industry apparently has turned the rule of PRESUMED INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY ASS BACKWARDS. Now, thanks to the multi-billion AIDS industry and the legal drug cartel, you are now PRESUMED GUILTY!
How do you like that folks? What do you think of that? THINK FOR CHRIST’S SAKES!
And then someone please tell me why all prosecutors and judges have dismissed 13 consecutive cases regarding serious HIV-related crimes within 12 months.
Look, I’m absolutely completely aware of where everyone else is coming from. Just like you, I’ve heard it for years and years and years and years and years: HIV = AIDS = Death. But I’ve researched this shit and it is a lie in order for the drug cartel to push expensive drugs that kill people. They also do PRESUMPTIVE DIAGNOSIS. Yet again, here we have presumed guilty!
And how many people have the drug cartel killed in the name of making money? How many criminal law suit payoffs which amounts to put a tax or large traffic ticket to these satanic beasts? There’s no money in nutrition so they push drugs, drugs, drugs, that are poison and have innumerable “side effects”, as all poisons do.
EARTH TO SCOTTY, BEAM ME UP, THERE IS NOT TOO MUCH INTELLIGENT LIFE ON THIS PLANET… BEAM ME UP QUICK!!!!!!
jeremy, Kary Mullis also says he believes in astrology and I dont pay any heed to that either.
Hello Mr. Woland, to lend you some insight into the nature of beliefs…
ex/ I happen to also believe that astrology is a cosmic science, that planets are living beings with a personality and influence. I’ve studied it beyond just the 2 dimensional newspaper sun sign horoscope thing. At the same time, I’ve studied things, like JFK, Waco, 9/11, AIDS, the news media, which are on a different, down-to earth level and I can provide down-to-Earth varifiable details. Mr. Mullis may agree and Mr. Clark may disagree possibly, but when it comes to certain subjects the facts speak for themselves. Don’t get lost in the messengers, look at the facts.
Alex Jones is a Christian, so he might believe Jesus walked on water. At the same time, he has done some excellent investigative work into 9/11, bohemian grove (caught on tape), etc.
A super egg-head genius can be brilliant in many areas and naive or purely faith-based in others. He may have superlative skill in arguing his scientific points, while, at the same time, believing his woman isn’t cheating on him, when she really is.
Kary Mullis won the Nobel Prize and invented the PCR, which the porn industry uses to allegedly identify HIV, although Mullis himself denies that it does this (ironically).
A theologian named David Ray Griffen writes some of the best books and presents some of the best presentations on how the official story of 9/11 and the Bush handpicked 9/11 commission is a lie/scam. At the same time, he might believe Jesus was born from a virgin. Who knows? Who cares? Because the facts he presents speak for themselves. They are sourced and documented and entirely logical.
Some brilliant men can’t figure out women or know how to behave around them. Does that mean their strengths and knowledge in their fields of expertise are illusions?
Karl Marx was right about some things, wrong about others. Do you throw out all insightful observations he made out the window because he didn’t bat 1000?
Let the facts speak for themselves and stop getting caught up in the fuckin messengers and whatever irrelevant bullshit.
jeremy, let me get this right:
the only reason you are not going to inject yourself with HIV and potentially uncover one of the biggest conspiracies in scientific history is because you don’t want to screw up your “status” in the porn world. LMAO. you’re fucking delusional.
let me ask you something else:
how much money have you made in porn for your entire career? don’t you think you could find 10 times this amount by making this documentary?
Please, let’s not encourage Jerry to kill himself. Its easy for Clark Baker and other scumbags to manipulate folks like Jerry to take the fall.
Clark is the head of OSMJ. He should do it.
Well, if HIV is not real – it really would be one of the biggest conspiracies of all time.
The funny thing about conspiracies though, is WHY they are uncovered suddenly.
If all of the info that Jeremy Steele is presenting has been around and known for years, then what would be the REAL reason for bringing it to the forefront right now?
*Black man with HIV: HIV is real
*Gay man with HIV: HIV is real
*Young caucasion women in vast numbers with unlimited potential to make countless dollars in the “private shoot” sect exposed to HIV: HIV is not real
If HIV is really not real, and that can be proven – fine. All the sign posts point to it being real however and like commenter number 15 said – unless someone saying it’s not real is willing to inject themselves with the supposedly “make believe” virus – I don’t buy the “not real” story.
HERE…HERE! Monica.
Jeremy, I asked you a direct, simple question and you gave me the same conspiracy rants and new age hippie slogans that you copy and paste from fringe blogs. Since you did not answer me directly and simply, I’ll ask you again:
Will you agree to subject yourself to a study in which you’ll get injected with HIV positive blood in front of a rolling camera and chronicle your daily life on film after your exposure to HIV in order to provide actual evidence to blow the lid off the global HIV conspiracy? And don’t give me the excuses about your status as an adult performer. Let’s face it: You’re a B grade middle aged performer who can barely keep his head out of the water. You’re not making a fortune by performing in blow job and reverse bukkake scenes, so you don’t have too much to lose if you quit performing and dedicate yourself to this study. On the other hand, if you agree to step up to this task and infect yourself with HIV virus in order to expose this conspiracy, first, surely there are many organizations like Clark Baker’s organization that are willing to invest in your experiment and take care of you financially. Second, you will become world famous, the man, the crusader who made a stand against the elite and exposed their decade’s long conspiracy. Your name will be included in the history books. Are you going to tell me you don’t want to accept this glory over performing in B grade porn scenes? I don’t believe that. If you’re not willing to enroll in this experiment, it’s because despite all of your rants, you’re afraid of HIV as much as anybody else afraid of it, and that’s fine, that’s natural. So just stop living in denial and make some sense, my friend.
jeremys basic fault is that he´s confusing pseudoscience with real science and dont understand the difference between the two. Its not an uncommon fault with the uneducated but its unfortunate none the same.
Seriously though, conspiracy theorists, be it 9/11, Area 51 or HIV denialists are dangerous, because it detract peoples attention from the real issues at hand and place easy to grasp but false theories in the minds of the uneducated.
Anyone with a modicum of scientific knowledge of course looks right through them but the damage is still done unfortunately.
I´ve got a much better deal than the colonel for you jeremy, no need to infect yourself with HIV, all I ask is that you get at-least a bachelors degree in a subject relevant to HIV, read up on the literature and get back to me after wards. If you still hold to your current ideas i´ll pay you 100$.
i have heard from credible sources that when a nurse accidentally stabs self with a needle used on a HIV infected individual, there is a very small chance that nurse is actually infected.
but in order for the experiment which the colonel propose should properly work, it must ascertain that mr steele is actually infected with the virus which according to himself is impossible to test for, so if it is a numbers game he must then be injected as many times as scientifically required to make sure a positive infection has occured…
i like monika’s view btw
Mr. Woland, your offer to Jeremy Steele is fair and reasonable, but I don’t think he accepts it, because in his opinion mainstream science is junk, a conspiracy orchestrated by the elite in order to brainwash, control and manipulate the masses. That’s why he takes the words of some uneducated fired cop/cheap private dick over the scientifically documented facts; and that’s why in order to find the truth, he must become the evidence himself. He must experiment HIV virus on himself and chronicle whatever happens to him next on film. He always wanted to make a documentary, this seems to be the best opportunity to make the documentary and in the meantime knock the elite dead.
The truth is out there, in a syringe.
Regarding this inject myself with HIV blood challenge…
Before I would consider doing this, let the following be understood…
If I was to hypothetically take the blood of someone else I would want to meet them first. If they are healthy at the time, it’s possible. If they are sick, no fuckin’ way. Putting the occupational aspect of it aside, I’d be more concerned with consuming the guy’s cheeseburger than HIV.
However, a positive HIV test could possibly be indicative of dangerous pathogens, hepatitis, tuberculosis, viral pneumonia or other diseases. All these diseases are real and have long existed before the advent of AIDS or it’s correlation with AIDS.
And if I were to make lots of money for doing this, I might consider it. However, the clerics, I mean “experts” say, it can take 10-20 or more years to get AIDS. Also it is admitted that HIV positives often do not get AIDS (which again demands the question, then why take deadly poisons for it?) If I were to inject myself with HIV, we’d all have to wait years to see what might happen and if nothing does you’d still say, I was lucky or that it could still be deadly to me or to someone else.
And again, this was done before by a PHD in the U.S. and there was a complete media blackout on it.
And thanks for the B performance grade. I must be moving up in the world.
And Mr. Worland, AIDS research sucks dollars away from real diseases, as money for all diseases put together lags far beyond money recieved for AIDS “research”. Heart disease and cancer are the cause of some 70% of human deaths. Deaths attributed to AIDS is miniscule in comparison, yet AIDS reearch is the kingpin of money grants and donations, which in turn fuels the perpetual hysteria and skewed statistics to keep the vicious cycle turning.
I remember as a kid, I used to eat too much junk food, got allergies, my parents took me to a doctor who stuck big needles in my arms, causing my arms to blow up like giant bug bites. NEVER ONE TIME DID HE ASK ME ABOUT MY DIET OR SUGGEST NUTRITION AS AN ANSWER. I learned a long time ago, the racket of science, which is the puppet of the multi-trillion dollar legal drug cartel.
We’ve replaced the Beatles “All you need is love” song with “All you need is drugs”. There is no money in wellness, just perpetual sickness.
First, fuck The Beatles. Fuck them and fuck their hippie bullshit.
So Jeremy, all said and done, you don’t have the guts to put your money where your mouth is and take your chances at making an Earth-shattering documentary and stand against the elite and expose their conspiracy for the greater good of humanity. You choose to remain a run down the mill adult performer and copy and paste conspiracy rants and new age hippie slogans on porn message boards. Fine, have at it.
P.S: As for the B performance grade, you’re welcome. Don’t fuck it up; and have a good, paranoia free weekend, my friend.
I’ve made specific points which you have not addressed, Colonel, and let me answer you’re simple conclusion with a simple answer: Show me the money! Also, what do you think something like that is worth, considering whether HIV kills or not, it’s gonna definitely kill my social life, due to all the mythology, plus I’d be endlessly harrassed by nutty, brainwashed AIDS activists. Considering all of that, I might just do myself in before HIV allegedly would.
you’re should’ve read “your”… doh!
Even if you’re familiar with run-of-the mill internet crackpots – Holocaust denialists, 9/11 Troofers, Obama birthers, germ theory denialists, etc – it’s still pretty shocking when you first encounter the thermonuclear crazy that is HIV/AIDS denialism. I suppose it’s the combination of organized dishonesty with a sociopathic disregard for the harm they do in promoting their cult.
I think Joe Know is on the right track – the best thing is to ignore them. Paying them attention – even negative attention – only encourages them.
They’ve been hunting in packs on the internet for many years now. Disgraced former cop Clark Baker is a relatively recent recruit. You can get a sense of how unhinged he is by reading his websites. His grandly named “Office of Scientific Justice” in fact consists of one of these many personal websites and a rented post office box in Studio City California. “Dr Hopes” is not as he claimed medically qualified – he’s a sad little troll from San Diego on the margins of the movement who continues to post under various identities despite promising to give this up if the denialists lost one of their silly court cases in Australia a few years ago. Brian Carter runs a discussion site for the cult called “Questioning AIDS”, where they encourage each other to keep the faith in denialism. Sadly, many posters over the years have been seriously ill, and several of them have died.
As for the Robert Willner story, Willner was a barking mad Florida doctor who had his licence cancelled in 1994 for claiming to cure people with HIV/AIDS by injecting them ozone, together with some… err… serious irregularities… related to his use of medical cocaine. He publicly stuck himself with needles allegedly contaminated with HIV-positive blood in a number of bizarre publicity stunts after he was struck off by the Florida board, however we don’t know the outcome of this because he died a few months later.
Baker’s intent with his interview was to try to get the LA porn industry to abandon HIV testing and practise condomless sex. This would of course attract the attention of the occupational health and safety authorities, and would lead to court actions. That’s what he’s interested in. He is under the delusion that if HIV testing could be examined in court (as it already has a number of times in various juridictions) he and his imaginary friends will be able to prove it worthless. It’s pure grandiose fantasy from a rather unfortunate disturbed individual.
He’s obviously a loon, but it’s a bit of a worry if individuals within the industry are getting sucked into his delusions.
Jeremy Steele says:
‘What do you think something like that (HIV exposure documentary) is worth?’
Surely ten times more than the documentary you were trying to make with PT guy. Consider this: Jackass 3D starring Johnny Knoxville has sold more than $100 million worldwide; and what do they do in that movie? They punch each other in the balls. So do the math: If people worldwide pay $100 million to see a bunch of middle aged guys punching each other in the balls, imagine how much they would pay to see somebody injecting himself with HIV positive blood. You’re gonna be a star, man. Not forget to mention you’ll also knock the elite dead and blow the lid off their global HIV conspiracy. I believe you have to do it.
I’ve got news for you, Colonel. That doc ain’t made nothin’ and 10x nuthin’ is still nuthin’, so that suggests to me that it ain’t worth sticking myself with someone’s cooties-laden blood. You gotta offer me more that to consider indulging in one of your brilliant whims.
SHOW ME DA MONEY !
haha
In fact Jeremy, your documentary with PT guy didn’t make anything, because you didn’t do anything to pimp it out; but this HIV exposure documentary is a gold mine, my friend. Beginning Monday, start making calls and sending emails to a bunch of Hollywood agents and pitch the idea. You’ll get a deal before you know it, and then you’ll be laughing all the way to the bank, or the graveyard. One way or the other you will find out, and so will the world.
P.S: I’ll contact Chris Carter and suggest that he casts you in the upcoming X-Files movie as agent Fox Mulder’s protégé. You deserve that.
Colonel, thanks for mentioning Spurlock and his BS movie. He seemed a lot more sedentary in that movie than I assume he normally is. I often have people tell me that they take this supplement or that supplement and their weight goes down or cholesterol goes down and I ask them if they are more conscious of what they are doing, they always say no but if observed you can tell that they are changing their choices. Spurlock skews the whole experiment so it has no scientific value, just a movie with some pain in the ass art damaged asshole.
Frank,
Frankly, you’re ignoring many important points and questions made. Do I need to reiterate them, or should I just frankly accuse you of AIDS Ignorance, as you ignore these points and questions?
Q: Why does presumption now = guilt?
Q: Why does Luc Montagnier cry foul about Big Pharm
and say HIV can be cured within weeks?
Q: Why did the FDA approve AZT, which literally had a skull and crossbones on the label and was originally deemed “too toxic for human consumption”?
Q: Why did the Wall Street Journal and other publications say health organizations “skew statistics”?
Q: Why are we told it’s an epidemic?
Q: Why does AIDS funding recieve more money then all diseases combined yet is attributed to 1.5% of deaths?
Q: Why are immunosuppressive drugs not taken into consideration for being the cause of immune suppression?
I could ask you many more, but you’ve displayed AIDS Ignorance through your strategy of ignoring these and other points and questions.
One more question, Frank, not that you would dare to answer, because you can not:
Q: Why are presumptive diagnosis done (where a person is told they are HIV+ and have AIDS without any kind of test) when the fact is AIDS is, by definition, a collection of nearly 30 previously existing old diseases all with OTHER existing causes?
How can you not say this doesn’t smell of a scam?
Dr. Quack says:
“Wow. You’re sick. You seem to have AIDS pnemonia. Here, take these deadly drugs. They’ll save you’re life.”
How else have we treated pneumonia before we called it AIDS?
Thank you for your comment and the information you provided, Frank.
And Larry, Morgan Spurlock’s experiment was not flawless, but nonetheless he had the courage to undergo a difficult experiment and document it to the best of his ability to support his claims. For that, I give him credit.
And Jeremy, cut the crap and shoot yourself with HIV positive blood. Make the HIV exposure documentary, make a difference or die trying. Either way, you will be remembered as a heroic man. A little crazy, but still heroic. It’s better than being remembered as the stunt cock in a reverse bukkake scene.
Cheers.
Some of the things some people believe here are as stupid as a person decrying the evils of censorhip while trying to censor others.
Everyone, here’s some advice… when it comes to evidence stop presuming and assuming presumptions equal proof.
Jeremy Steele says:
‘When it comes to evidence stop presuming and assuming presumptions equal proof.’
That’s exactly why I insist that you must shoot yourself up with HIV positive blood so you can become the proof, dead or alive.
Do it.
Do it.
Do it.
…
Q: Why does presumption now = guilt?
HIV/AIDS is an infectious disease, not a moral judgement. “Guilt” has nothing to do with it. Detection of HIV antibodies by approved diagnostic algorithms is reliable evidence of present HIV infection. This has been repeatedly shown in the scientific literature for decades now. Google “Human Immunodeficiency Virus Type 1 Detected in All Seropositive Symptomatic and Asymptomatic Individuals”. You should find one of the earliest studies (by Jackson et al, circa two decades ago) to demonstrate this. Try reading it.
Q: Why does Luc Montagnier cry foul about Big Pharm and say HIV can be cured within weeks?
He doesn’t. You have been sucked in by an internet propaganda campaign. Montagnier himself says that his comment was “taken out of its context in a film that glorifies the “Dissidents” and posted on Internet by a website that is searching for polemical debate”. The campaign was centred on a film called “House of Numbers” which tried to present itself as an objective examination of HIV/AIDS. They lied. It was funded by the AIDS denialist cult “Rethinking AIDS”.
Montagnier was discussing his belief that good nutrition might reduce the rate of HIV transmission among otherwise malnourished populations. He might be right about this. He also thinks that there needs to be more emphasis on simple public health measures to reduce HIV transmission, which are being ignored in the push for an HIV vaccine and drugs to reduce viral load. He probably has a point here too. However, he does not claim that chronic HIV infection can be cured within weeks. That’s a deliberate misrepresentation by the denialist propaganda machine. Google “House of Numbers – dishonest and unscrupulous misrepresentation of Montagnier” for more.
Q: Why did the FDA approve AZT, which literally had a skull and crossbones on the label and was originally deemed “too toxic for human consumption”?
AZT was never deemed “too toxic for human consumption”. That’s rubbish that you have read on a denialist website somewhere, and are now parroting here. It never got to the stage of human trials for cancer because it was not toxic enough even to cancer cells to be used for that purpose. And chemicals produced for laboratory use routinely have a skull and crossbones on the label – even such nasty poisons such as ethyl alcohol and dihydrogen monoxide. (Put down your scotch and soda – immediately!)
Q: Why did the Wall Street Journal and other publications say health organizations “skew statistics”?
Well, I don’t know exactly what you are referring to, but my guess is probably because they sometimes do. That’s the thing about statistics – they’re eminently skewable. Which is why it’s a good idea to have a clue or two before you draw conclusions about statistics.
Q: Why are we told it’s an epidemic?
Look up the definition of “epidemic” on wikipedia or any dictionary or encyclopedia.
Q: Why does AIDS funding recieve more money then all diseases combined yet is attributed to 1.5% of deaths?
It doesn’t.
Q: Why are immunosuppressive drugs not taken into consideration for being the cause of immune suppression?
They are. In fact, that’s the whole reason they are used for conditions such as autoimmune diseases or to prevent the rejection of organ transplants. However they are not the cause of AIDS. Their use has no independent correlation with AIDS. Only HIV does.
Before I answer any more of your “questions” could you explain what atomic weight measures, and why you think this is so important in a discussion of virology?
Jeremy says: “One more question, Frank, not that you would dare to answer, because you can not”
Oh, what the hell, I’m feeling daring
Q: Why are presumptive diagnosis done (where a person is told they are HIV+ and have AIDS without any kind of test) when the fact is AIDS is, by definition, a collection of nearly 30 previously existing old diseases all with OTHER existing causes?
Err, no. AIDS is a disease of the immune system that became common enough to identify during the early 1980s. It probably existed for several decades before that, but not in high enough numbers for anyone to have recognised it.
Look up “AIDS” in the Merriam Webster dictionary, the Encyclopaedia Britannica, the Oxford or Cambridge English dictionaries or even Wikipedia. It’s a newly described single disease of the immune system, not a “collection of old diseases”. You are confusing the conditions which indicate AIDS with the immune system disease itself.
Fuck ’em, Frank. Anyone stupid enough to believe that HIV is not a retrovirus–nor does it cause AIDS–deserves to be killed by the disease. Just like Christine and her daughter. Fuck them both. If Brooke Ashley reads this, goes off her meds and dies, fuck her too. Seriously, that’s how cruel life is and people need to accept that.
Problem, origen01, is that HIV/AIDS denialists don’t just put themselves at risk through their lies and stupidity – they threaten everyone else too, especially in the adult film industry,
Brooke Ashley is not an HIV/AIDS denialist – she was infected as a result of someone else’s denial.
Well, that’s life, Frank. People have to be careful.
Thanks for pretending to answer some of my questions, Frank. I appreciate it. To answer yours, “atomic weight” is what Clark brought up regarding the question of how you isolate and find/test for HIV.
As the Clark Baker interview points out, the manufacturer’s HIV test disclaimer says itself that it “presumes” HIV infection. Presumption does not and can not mean you’ve identified anything, only that you’ve assumed. This is why cases are being dismissed or dropped, which leads back to the question “How does anyone have the right to say anyone is HIV positive?” Presumption of infection is the same of presumption of guilt instead of innocence. This is a hu$tle pushed by the big drug pushing cartel and is parrallel to the same admitted uncertainly when Robert Gallo announced through Margaret Heckler in 1984 that the “LIKELY” cause of AIDS had been found. Likewise, “likely” does not equal “undoubtably”, as Big Pharm and all it’s whore puppets have been pushing on us, ever since. Gallo’s hu$tle was done before peer review and so have the hustles that have been pushed on us today.
And I meant to say “FAR too toxic for human consumption”:
Stephen Davis’ book “Wrongful Death: The AZT Trial, on page 11 reads: “Internal memos and other documents proving that the FDA short-cut its usual drug-approval procedures to allow AZT to be given to patients who were HIV-positive, even though this same drug AZT had been rejected as far too toxic for human consumption as 20 years earlier, when it was developed as a treatment for cancer…”
And you say immune suppresive “therapy” drugs have no correlation with AIDS, only HIV does? Wow, what a mind-fuck. Perhaps you have some form of AIDS Dementia.
If only HIV has correlation (which does not prove causation, btw), then why were Gallo’s tests not able to present correlation over 1/2 his samples?
And AIDS by definition IS a bunch of old diseases, including kaposi sarcoma (shown to be caused by excessive popper snorting) and cervical cancer (which was added to the list to get more women on the AIDS list, as they have been conspicuously lacking in this so-called “epidemic”). By definition, the only difference between Diarrhea and an AIDS diarrhea is the alleged, unproven presence of HIV. YET, AT THE SAME TIME PEOPLE ARE BEING TOLD THEY ARE POSTIVE BASED ON NO TEST AT ALL, which is called a “presumptive diagnosis”! In fact it’s all turned out to be presumptive diagnosis, test or not, as OMSJ has shown. AIDS is defined as a “syndrome” consisting of various old diseases. It’s simply the lumping of old diseases which all had specific causes previously and now blamed on the mysterious and non-isolated HIV. AIDS in Uganda is entirely different thatn AIDS in Greenwich VillageAnd a label with a skull and crossbones has nothing to do with people suddenly getting sick? Are you kidding me? TALK ABOUT AIDS DENIALISTS!
(For fucks’ sake Cindi, not another “Your comment is awaiting moderation.” What was the magic word this time? I have no idea. Well at least the whole detailed comment didn’t go “poof”! this time! STAY TUNED! My comment was just sent on Sunday 9:52am Pacific Standard Time… Don’t forget, everyone, Daylight Savings time is Over!)
From “AIDS, Inc.: Scandal of the Century” by Jon Rappoport:
“I went back to my doctor and told him I was better. Tests showed my T-cell count was improving. I had more energy.
He said I probably had AIDS dementia, and that’s why I imagined I was getting well.” -An AIDS patient, Los Angeles, 1988.
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From “Kind and Usual Punishment” by Jessica Mitford:
The following is a brief exchange between a law professor and a physician. It conerns a volunteer subject in an experimental drug study of behavioral control, being conducted at a Maryland prison.
Law Professor: Does he (the volunteer) understand the effects of the drug?
Physician: Yes, we explained the whole thing to him. We don’t want any misunderstanding.
Law Professor: Well, what are the effects?
Physician: We don’t know. That’s what we’re trying to find out.
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Meanwhile, let’s count all the lives lost and dollars in payouts due to the criminal Adverse Drug Reaction deaths while still proclaiming with absolute self-assuredness that cytotoxic immune-suppressive “far too toxic for human consumption” skull and crossbone labeled “therapy” drugs have nothing to do with people dying of what is called “AIDS”.
PULL HEAD OUT OF ASS NOW!
Jeremy, “atomic weight” is the ratio of the average mass of atoms of an element (from a given source) to 1/12 of the mass of an atom of carbon-12. It has nothing to do with virology or the isolation of viruses. Clarkie’s demand to know the “atomic weight” of HIV was just him trying to impress people like yourself by sounding all sciencey and stuff, and in the process displaying the depths of his ignorance and stupidity. He’s a kook.
And if you can read a simple statement like “(an) individual who has antibodies to HIV is presumed to be infected with the virus” as meaning “having HIV antibodies doesn’t mean you have HIV”, then you have some basic problems with reading comprehension. And no, going to court over this is not going to help you.
Stephen Davis’ book “Wrongful Death: The AZT Trial” is a fiction novel, Jeremy. And a bloody awful one, too. He makes Barbara Cartland sound like Dostoyevsky.
I’m going to take Joe Know’s advice and ignore the silliness. The day I get my scientific information from a not-very-bright porn star is the same day I’ll visit the the National Institutes of Health looking for erotic entertainment.
Clark has impressed me more than you, Frank.
No, Frank, you have basic comprehension problems, not I. HIV being claimed to be the “likely cause of AIDS” never meant HIV=AIDS. This is why Gallo’s tests failed Koch’s Postulates (being able to replicate the virus in other samples, each and every time). And, again, all cases Clark has handled, one after the other, have been dropped, because the experts are forced to admit that HIV tests, being presumptuous, don’t identify HIV, but only guess or assume it’s there, and that lack of fact (of HIV being detected) is a fact, Jack.
AZT’s deadly toxicity is no fiction. What fiction novels or fictitious pamphlets have you been reading? You think Davis and countless other authors and investigators are fiction writers? Sounds like the NIH or CDC should have the right to sue, then, if that were the case.
Why the fuck is Big Pharm paying billions in payouts for killing or permanently messing people up, yet you claim AZT and other AIDS drugs don’t kill?
You are what one author calls an “AIDS Fundamentalist”.
Can we get back to porn, one thing I would like to know is why Papa Smurf has been mentioned in two stories as the spokesman for the business. Funny since Axel Braun uses Ryan Driller(who works both ways) in Superman. Almost like he’s saying its okay to use male performers who work both ways…even though his neighbor the Earl says he wont book his girls with those guys.
Larry! Thats’s going to continue to happen here in PORN valley with alot of Bi sexual directors we have here that LIKE boys too!! YEP!! we have another out break on the way and hopefully the YES girl’s can put a stop to it and stop working for the MONEY and start saying NO to bi and gay men in there shoots!.Wish it was like the old days here again but they can’t seem to find the female talent that’s willing to do this anymore and its bullshit!!
Rick,
you almost got it right. Its not the girls who need to say no to the cross over gay guys,,,,its the Producers who hire these guys that need to stop.
It is BULLSHIT that producers are hiring these guys. Without the porducers hiring these guys NONE of this would have happened.
So Ricky, will you boycott the producers who hire these guys?
YOU tell the girls to ‘Say no to the gay and bi men in (thier) shoots.”,,,,,,Its not the girls shoot, its the PRODUCERS shoot, and he is the one who should be saying NO!!!!
Directors like who? Trannyfucker? Tom Moore? Wonder how much bait and switch is going on, oh here is such and such a guy and then this guy shows up, like expecting to work with James Deen and then he had to “cancel” at the last minute and there all of a sudden is Seth Dickens.
so what happen to james deen and seth dickens Larry???
A girl is booked to work a scene with James Deen and then when she gets to the set the producer says well James had to cancel but we have Seth Dickens, where all the time they had just Seth and they figure that the girl will go along just to get paid. I bet there are times girls show up to work with Jim Powers on one of his lower tier productions and then all of a sudden is his boy Thrust.