from http://business.avn.com/articles/Adult-Performer-Tests-HIV-415455.html
AVN.com has learned from sources that Patient Zero is a male performer who performed in both straight and gay adult videos. Additionally, we received word that an undetermined number of first and second generation adult performers who may have been exposed have been quarantined at this time.
Media is going to have a blast with this one.. Ops there goes the industry ..
And rightfully so Brian. This is a legit story about HIV,again, being transmitted in the industry. The industry has gottenaway with zero responsibility for decades now, and that is about to change.
There have been absolutely NO CHNANGES of any kind in the industry testing protocol since AIM first stared,,except for adding gonn/chlam to the testing regime,,,and that was in 2003……Nothing has changed, and becuase of the reluctance of the industry<producers, directors, to take AVY responsibilitythemselves,,,it will now be forced on them,,,not out of any political agendda, but becuase it is the right, and legal thing to do.
and in the news today .. 10k people over the last year have contracted HIV that ARE NOT in the ADULT INDUSTRY …
I love the quote fromDiane Duke,,,,,”I applaud AIM for QUICKLY identifying the risk and adressing the physical and emotional meeds of those involved.”
Is this a joke,,,,,,AIM has had years to identify the risks, and take action,,,,,but the only action they have ever taken is to wait for it to happen again. No changes in policy, no responsibility of producers(employers) Becuase we all know protectin the producers is the main agenda,,,keep those cameras rolling, at all acost.
Joe what are u suggesting should be done
I think the gay side of the business is gonna have to keep HIV+ actors from performing to lower the general risk, despite the condom use there is a lot of bareback gay porn still being made. Are tests used in bi movies, I would hope the female performers at the very least would insist, I think any performer in any type of porn film should insist.
The MORONS at AIM think the exposure list is people who have had contact with this performer since his last negative test. Anyone else see the problem here or am I the only one who understands 3rd grade math?
There are currently 3 male performers and one female performer that have been quarantined.
Without getting inot a pissing match, I will say without any reservation what so ever, that every single word in the above post form Mike Sout is 100% inaccurate.
Brian,
Glad youasked. For starters, the 30 day testing regime is far to long. I suggest 15 days for HIV, weekly gor gonn?chlam, and in addiont, the use of rapid tests on set for HIV.
But this whole problem exist becuase of the lack of any specific LAWS(not osha regulatins) but legislative laws, similar to those in Nevada regarding legal slex workers.
Holding producer liable for what happens in THEIR workplace should also happen,,,and it soon will.
Producers make the free choice to make porn. They freely choose to hire people to take risks,,,risks thatthey themselve admit to by the very fact that they ‘require'(illegally) std tests as a condition of employment.
Producers resposibility,,,that is what I am all about. Thye are the ones who set the wheels in motion,,,without them,,,noneof this would be happening>
Mike If he s done more gay films than str8 films it makes since .. But I wish they do the last two months
I dont know how relevant, LukeFord.Com is, but the rumors on his site are saying as many as 20 people have tested positive and some big names. I kind of doubt it, but I have a feeling that this HIV positive isn’t going to be as easy as the last
Almost every time there is an HIV outbreak in the straight section of the adult industry, it’s caused by crossover homosexuals and/or transsexuals. That’s a fact, and yet if anybody points out that fact, he is being labeled as homophobic, prejudiced, unfair, blah, blah, blah. We’ve been down this road before. There’s a risk in having sex with multiple partners, on or off camera, with or without condoms and regardless of the testing periods and procedures. That risk can never be eliminated completely, and porn performers know that as well as any other rational adult person. However, we can reduce the risk by separating homosexuals and transsexuals from the straight performers and by not allowing crossovers.
As for the identity of the patient zero and how and where he contracted HIV, it’ll be all over the internet hole before the end of the week. A month from now, there will be business as usual in the porn valley, with or without AIM, with or without regulations.
…and the band kept playing.
Don’t worry everybody. Think positive!
Lexi Love recorded posted a great video about the HIV outbreak.
http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/10171914
The difference JustinLong, is that porn with AIM, have a sense of arrogance about them. We test, therefore we’re clean. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve read some porn star claim she’d never have a one night stand outside of the business because everybody else is dirty, but people in porn are “clean” and are tested regularly. What they don’t mention is the fact that only HIV/AIDS are a concern/priority. Everybody knows that porn stars regularly and frequently get infected with just about everything else, but because it’s curable or non-life threatening, it’s OK. I’ve seen the stats (90% having herpes, etc.) and it’s pretty gross if when you stop and think about it.
The point isn’t that the general population also has STDs (a couple years ago there was a report that 25% of New Yorkers have herpes). It’s the hypocrisy of testing equals safety and cleanliness. I liken it in some ways to Republican hypocrisy. Yeah, Democrats are also occasionally guilty of infidelity and political scandals, but they’re not the party who religiously espouse family values as if they’re in some way better.
jeremysteele11 Says: Don’t worry everybody. Think positive!
Doesn’t this sound like the same scenario as last years female performer who tested HIV+. She has been shooting porn with actors who are bi doing straight and gay porn. Any chance these incidents are related?
Meanwhile, the AIDS Healthcare Foundation, which has been leading efforts to change California worker-safety health code, held a press conference to address the HIV case.
“That a performer tested positive for HIV today — and that more may be infected — was totally preventable,” said Michael Weinstein, president of AIDS Healthcare Foundation.
“It is also living proof that testing is not adequate protection against HIV/AIDS and other sexually-transmitted diseases among porn performers.”
What does Whinestein mean that HIV infection was “totally preventable”?
The standard for testing HIV is the Eliza anti-body test, which is a joke. That’s why the porn industry doesn’t rely upon it. Regarding PCR, the inventor of the PCR, Dr. Kary Mullis, Biochemist, 1993 Nobel Prize for Chemistry, himself, said:
“If there is evidence that HIV causes AIDS, there should be scientific documents which either singly or collectively demonstrate that fact, at least with a high probability. There is no such document.” (Sunday Times (London) 28 nov. 1993)
PCR tests do not necessarily indicate the presence of HIV for a variety of reasons. The tests use only a tiny portion of the consensus HIV genome as primers, they are prone to false positives, and they cannot distinguish non-infectious RNA from an infectious virus particle. According to one paper “Circulating levels of plasma virus determined by QC-PCR also correlated with, but exceeded by an average of nearly 60,000-fold…titers of infectious HIV-1 determined by quantitative endpoint dilution culture of identical portions of plasma.” In other words, they found that only one out of 60,000 particles measured by the ‘Viral Load ’ test corresponded with an infectious virus particle.
(source: Piatak M Jr et al. High levels of HIV-1 in plasma during all stages of infection determined by competitive PCR. Science. 1993 Mar 19; 259: 1749-54)
CONTROVERSY:
Dr. Heinz Ludwig Sänger, Emeritus Professor of Molecular Biology and Virology, Max-Planck-Institutes for Biochemy, München. Robert Koch Award 1978:
“Up to today there is actually no single scientifically really convincing evidence for the existence of HIV. Not even once such a retrovirus has been isolated and purified by the methods of classical virology.” (Letter to Süddeutsche Zeitung 2000)
Dr. Serge Lang, Professor of Mathematics, Yale University:
“I do not regard the causal relationship between HIV and any disease as settled. I have seen considerable evidence that highly improper statistics concerning HIV and AIDS have been passed off as science, and that top members of the scientific establishment have carelessly, if not irresponsible, joined the media in spreading misinformation about the nature of AIDS.” (Yale Scientific, Fall 1994)
Dr. Harry Rubin, Professor of Molecular and Cell Biology, University of California at Berkeley:
“It is not proven that AIDS is caused by HIV infection, nor is it proven that it plays no role whatever in the syndrome.” (Sunday Times (London) 3 April 1994)
Dr. Richard Strohman, Emeritus Professor of Cell Biology at the University of California at Berkeley:
“In the old days it was required that a scientist address the possibilities of proving his hypothesis wrong as well as right. Now there’s none of that in standard HIV-AIDS program with all its billions of dollars.” (Penthouse April 1994)
Dr. Harvey Bialy, Molecular Biologist, former editor of Bio/Technology and Nature Biotechnology:
“HIV is an ordinary retrovirus. There is nothing about this virus that is unique. Everything that is discovered about HIV has an analogue in other retroviruses that don’t cause AIDS. HIV only contains a very small piece of genetic information. There’s no way it can do all these elaborate things they say it does.” (Spin June 1992)
Dr. Roger Cunningham, Immunologist, Microbiologist and Director of the Centre for Immunology at the State University of New York at Buffalo:
“Unfortunately, an AIDS ‘establishment’ seems to have formed that intends to discourage challenges to the dogma on one side and often insists on following discredited ideas on the other.” (Sunday Times (London) 3 April 1994)
Dr. Gordon Stewart, Emeritus Professor of Public Health, University of Glasgow:
“AIDS is a behavioural disease. It is multifactorial, brought on by several simultaneous strains on the immune system – drugs, pharmaceutical and recreational, sexually transmitted diseases, multiple viral infections.” (Spin June 1992)
Dr. Alfred Hässig, (1921-1999), former Professor of Immunology at the University of Bern, and former director Swiss Red Cross blood banks:
“The sentence of death accompanying the medical diagnosis of AIDS should be abolished.” (Sunday Times (London) 3 April 1994)
Dr. Charles Thomas, former Professor of Biochemistry, Harvard and John Hopkins Universities:
“The HIV-causes-AIDS dogma represents the grandest and perhaps the most morally destructive fraud that has ever been perpetrated on young men and women of the Western world.” (Sunday Times (London) 3 April 1994)
Dr. Joseph Sonnabend, New York Physician, founder of the American Foundation for AIDS Research (AmFAR):
“The marketing of HIV, through press releases and statements, as a killer virus causing AIDS without the need for any other factors, has so distorted research and treatment that it may have caused thousands of people to suffer and die.” (Sunday times (London) 17 May 1992)
Dr. Andrew Herxheimer, Emeritus Professor of Pharmacology, UK Cochrane Centre, Oxford:
“I think zidovudine [AZT] was never really evaluated properly and that its efficacy has never been proved, but it’s toxicity certainly is important. And I think it has killed a lot of people. Especially at the high doses. I personally think it not worth using alone or in combination at all.” (Continuum Oct. 2000)
Dr. Etienne de Harven, Emeritus Professor of Pathology, at the University of Toronto:
“Dominated by the media, by special pressure groups and by the interests of several pharmaceutical companies, the AIDS establishment efforts to control the disease lost contact with open-minded, peer-reviewed medical science since the unproven HIV/AIDS hypothesis received 100% of the research funds while all other hypotheses were ignored.” (Reappraising AIDS Nov./Dec. 1998)
Dr. Bernard Forscher, former editor of the U.S. Proceeding of the National Academy of Sciences:
“The HIV hypothesis ranks with the ‘bad air’ theory for malaria and the ‘bacterial infection’ theory of beriberi and pellagra [caused by nutritional deficiencies]. It is a hoax that became a scam.” (Sunday Times (London) 3 April 1994)
AIM better go public with who it is?? too many lives in stake and taking there time while talent is out there FUCKING!!! more and more cases!!! $$$$ for aim….
This HIV+ assessment is based upon a viral load of crap:
“Viral load” uses PCR (polymerase chain reaction) technology invented by Kary Mullis (he got a nobel peace prize for it). PCR allows you to take a small amount of genetic material and make copies of it. It is used for forensics and paleontology and in situations where you want to do a lot of tests but only have a small starting sample. With HIV, it takes genetic material found inside a person’s body and makes copies. How many copies you are able to make from it is supposed to reflect how much HIV virus is in your body. But you aren’t starting with living viruses, you are starting with a portion of genetic material that may or may not belong to HIV, and may or may not represent an actual living virus. Dr. Kary Mullis, the inventor of PCR, has stated that viral load is a misuse of PCR technology, and he is among the group of scientists who are demanding a reassessment of HIV science.
http://questioningaids.tribe.net/m/thread/69668540-bc93-43bb-a698-e776db0dd0a8
Yeah Colonel!! I wonder whose Lover Boyfriend it is?? u know some of these directors out here in LA play both sides of the Court too!! and A whole lot of Ladies are going to be coming out on the YES list for this practice!..Thanks Porn valley for “Fucking up again” !! why not on the way down and out fuck up more and more and bring the regulations on?? Can we spell Ignorant?
Patient zero is identified
Really? They still let guys who fuck guys fuck girls too? Why would they be so fucking stupid? I know it’s always possible for hetero people to infect each other HIV but got damn it’s off the charts with GUYS FUCKING GUYS!
Porn is not an industry, it’s not managed by anyone at all. I can’t believe they never got together and tried to regulate themselves. Just like everything else in America, greed completely destroyed it.
Jerry,
i will keep this short……AIM does NOT use the pcr VIRAL LOAD test. PCR has come a LONG LONG way from the time of the sources you are quoting…….
Jerry, you DONT EVEN KNOW that AIM doesnt use the VIRAL LOAD test,,, NOW lets see youdo some of the research that youalways tell everybody else to do to find out exactly what kind of test AIM uses…..I will give you 24 hours and then I will print the facts,,,do your research(and I donnt meant watch YOUtube)
PORNSTER,,,,,,EXCELLENT question,,,
Why doesnt someone ask the PRODUCERS who are hiring these guys,,,,,,,,and therefore putting their other employees at more risk,,,,,,Does anyone still think that the PRODUCERS who hire these guys are not in some way responsible?????
ANd jerry,,,perhaps you could tell us alittle about NAT testing while yore at it, and how it applies to the porn testing regiment?
The last time AIM did name the patient zero,they got sued by the guy and it did cost them an arm.They won’t officially reveal his name for sure…thought it will come out anyway.
There is no progress Jono, when the facts of the past have been suppressed and denied (HIV discoverer Robert Gallo convicted of scientific misconduct, then later admitting that HIV can not cause AIDS without co-factors, which is admitting that HIV does not cause AIDS). The empire of AIDS rests it’s foundation on a mammoth faultline. There’s collective ignorance about the past due to the collective brainwashing of corrupt psuedo-science, gov’t and media.
Now someone lies to you and it has been proved that they’ve lied to you, which has lead to countless numbers of deaths, pain, paranoia and misery but you continue to believe those liars? That’s a joke that I just can’t laugh at, Joe.
All those doctors with advanced degrees and nobel prize winning scientists are just idiots, right, Joe? Progress would exist if these voices were at least recognized instead of suppressed.
Stop fooling yourself/allowing yourself to be fooled.
Jerry,
I read your post and I am now confident that you are not even aware that AIM does NOT use the pcr viral load test….You do not evenknow the differnce between the different types of pcr tests,,,and NAT testing,,,you dont have a clue.
Thank you for confiming your complete lack of knowledge about the trype of testing tha AI actually uses.
Or you can prove me wrong and write a respose here about the actual test that AIM uses. But this will NEVER EVER EVER happen,,,becuase you dont know.
YOU calim to know so much about this,,,please,,tell us abou the tests that AIM actually uses,,,not the one you seem to indicate that they use.
Science is makeing huge strides everyday. PCR technology was in its infancy in 1998,,,,,hundreds of years ago people thought the earth was the center of the universe,,,,,ten years ago people thought pcr was not as accurate as it was purported to be,,,,,,well, the earth aint the center,,,and pcr is now, and will be the FUTURE of medical testing for EVERYTHINGhttp://www.gene-quantification.de/efficiency.html
If this is a little too tchinical for you Jerry feel free to ask me any questions,,,,,,Jerry, I prefer real research,,,not YOUTUBE research.
And until you tellme the differnce betwen the “Standard Curve” and the “Amplification Curve” please dont try to push your YOUTUBE research down our throats.
http://www.roche.com/pages/facets/pcr_e.pdf
i know the science here is far beyond the comprehension of 99.9% of the peopl on the planet,,,,but this link right here puts to rest every single one of Jerrys years old refernces to the efficacy of pcr testing,,,,,
What I just laid out for you here jerry is a royal flush, if we were playing poker,,and as they say at the talbes,,,,,Read it and weep.
Ps>>>Sook real close here Jerry and you will find the actualtest that AIM uses,,,,but you dont even know what youre looking for.
You can not understand the present or future, Joe, until you get a little better acquainted with the past. Are you aware of Robert Gallo’s scientific misconduct being the foundation of the AID$ empire, as well as his later admission/claim that HIV in the absence of yet to be determined co-factors does not cause AIDS? Ignore my points and questions and I’ll ignore yours. Is the word “youtube” now synonymous with “conspiracy theory” in your idiot’s guide to reality?
Yeah, and science is making huge strides today… that’s why 10 years into the 21st century a George Jetson type of society is still a dream and we’re dependent on gasoline and oil. Imagine they suddenly had the answer to AIDS. All those “non profit” organizations would suddenly go out of business, just like oil companies would with Nicola Telsa-like free energy. “Progress” is about fattening the wealth of those who have been profitting from the status quo; pharmaceutical, symptomatic, poison based “remedies”, big money grants along a singular line of thinking.. that’s why they made the prophetic statement that a cure to AIDS is far, far away.
I only mention YOUTUBE jerry because you have so many times reffered to it as your source of information.
Yes I am completely aware of what you are citing above,and if you took the time to read the last link I provided you will see a complete destrucion of that argument. Thank you
Now,,,,why dont you just come out and admit that you DO NOT EVEN KNOW WHAT TYPE OF TEST AIM USES.
Everysingle thing you have ever writtenon this site about pcr testing has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with thetest that AIM actaull uses.
Jery, youaccuse everyone else of being closed minded, and not looking at your “facts’
ell why dont you look at the facts I have posted Jerry,,,,or is the truth a little too scary for you?
Are you sitting on a chair…better be.According to Ron Jeremy(from radaronline.Won’t post the direct link because it will delay the post)
“It’s very important that people know we take the ELISA test for HIV which cuts down the window for results and in heterosexual porn, testing is absolutely mandatory,” Jeremy said.”
That link does not work, you idiot, and besides there is no defense possible for retrovirologist Robert Gallo’s fraud/scientific misconduct, along the lines of his previous attempts at gathering gov’t funding by claiming that a retrovirus was a cause of other diseases, as well. He’s like a vaccuum cleaner salesman telling you his product will solve world hunger. And how the fuck can AIDS organizations go on and on and on without acknowledging even Gallo’s admission that HIV can not cause AIDS in and of itself? There’s too many jobs and dollars, pride, mental and emotional investments at this point for them to check themselves. The whole thing is corrupted and when it comes to corruption it’s like being pregnant; you can’t be half pregnant. The whole things corrupted through and through, books have been cooked, this has been shown, and like the magic bullet theory we are being sold lies.
(last comment was to Joe, not Leslie. Also, just got a text from Ron of the LA Times, who said the story is being postponed and won’t run tomorrow.)
Ok, I think post 35 just came in with the link. I was referring to post 34. That link does not work. That link addresses none of my points, Joe, regarding Gallo, or Mullis’s own claim about PCR’s efficacy in regards to HIV ID.
Be wary of those who say they know, especially when it’s in incorrect English (ie: “Joe Know”… does he means “Joe Knows”? Who knows? Who cares? Is English his 4th language?)
A well known industry male…that’s in those words that came the first news of that latest HIV story.The name that has came up so far as for being patient zero…you type his name at IFAD and you get no result so…one has to guess they haven’t scoop the real good name yet.
Jerry,
Simple question. What test does AIM use in their montly screening?
Patient Zero. That’s a good name, as it will end up being what the patient’s porn income will be from this time, on, as well as his probable self-worth level. Let’s just have his name already so we can have our big, collective freak-out, questioning who worked with who, who worked with someone, who worked with him…
LESLIE,
Could you tell me where that “first” news of the latest story is from,,,what blog, twitter, news paper?
I’d be interested to see that ‘first’ report. Thanks.
This is 2004 all over again. Patient Zero NEEDS to identify himself to prevent pandemonium.
Well Joe…I thought that statement”well known male talent” was coming from the first post about that whole story and that first post unless I’m wrong came from AVN.But…it’s not what is written.They wrote:”it’s a male talent that works both in straight and gay porn.
So then I thought I’ve seen that “well known male talent” statement at Mike South site.It’s there at two different posts.He even mentions in one of those post that it’s AVN that did make the statement:”it’s a well known male talent”.
Again,I won’t post links to the direct post because it delays things.
As a side note…what is the percentage of gay porn that is shot with condoms(I never did look at a gay porn video ever so???)Apparently it’s close to 100%.How can one claims that using condoms in hetero vids will kill the sales?
One last,if the patient zero would come forward then…that’s good but just for the first generation of exposure….better than nothing I guess.
Leslie, gay porn uses condoms heavily because a high portion of its talent pool is HIV+. As a result of this talent characteristic, condom use is high WORLDWIDE and there never really was a consumer reference point where condoms were unseen. Thus, consumers had long ago accepted that condoms would be common in gay porn.
Who’s the girls in quaratine?? how about the male talent? anybody know? somebody said Chris Stokkes? Christy??
anyword on the girls in quartine??