NL- If we allow things like this to go on, Visa will be deciding what we can and cannot read….
from http://finance.yahoo.com/news/paypal-wages-war-obscenity-192920648.html
eBay’s global e-commerce business PayPal Inc. has caused an outbreak of anger in the publishing world for its controversial stance against e-books that contain “obscene” themes of rape, bestiality, and incest. PayPal has gone so far as to ask e-book distributors and publishers to ban these books and even threatened to “limit” companies’ PayPal accounts unless these “obscene” books were removed from websites.
PayPal has sent these warnings to online publishers and booksellers including Smashword’s, Bookstrand.com, and eXcessica. The Electronic Frontier Foundation, a non-profit that supports free speech, privacy, and other individual rights in the digital world, along with other groups including the Authors Guild, the American Booksellers Foundation for Free Expression, and the Association of American Publishers, sent PayPal a letter on Wednesday asking the company to reverse its policy. The groups all agree that PayPal is holding freedom of speech hostage with its decision.
PayPal has claimed that it is acting in part because the banks and credit card companies that PayPal works with restrict such content, and PayPal is respecting and complying with their rules, which prohibit content containing rape, incest, and bestiality. The publishing world is enraged over the amount of control banks and credit card companies exercise over book content, and is concerned that they are exerting control over what can be written, published, and read in the ‘Land of the Free.’
A PayPal spokesman has said that PayPal’s decision is based on business factors with card associations and banks, but the company does believe in setting boundaries on content that is too extreme and potentially illegal. American Express , Mastercard , Visa , JP Morgan Chase , Citigroup , and Wells Fargo have not commented on the matter.
You know what? Don’t use Paypal for purchasing needs. There are other vendors who will certainly be glad to step in.
This is the first attempt in censorship and Orwellian nonsense and has to be stopped.
Freedom of speech is absolute and NOT beholden to business. Any business that thinks so should be boycotted.
This is the same “community standards” type argument that has been used again “obscenity” for years – and in almost all cases, it fails.
Docqualizer is right 100%. Pay Pal is just another money changer who has not payed their dues in the
adult industry. Anyone who needs their services is selling their goods as an amature and should turn pro
by not paying the Pay Pal excessive fees. Go to a bank and get processing or offshore.
So many porn companies do so much sneaky shit over the years many porn consumers don’t want to give their credit card info for porn, they would rather go thru Paypal and have another level of security.
Freedom of speech is not absolute. See “shouting ‘Fire’ in a movie theater.” Seriously, you want bestiality, rape and incest protected? That’s what going to make you put your tin foils hats on? That’s quite sad really. I guess we should protect pedophile fiction too, huh? It’s filth and serves no purpose. Also, if you’re not interested in that type of garbage it really doesn’t affect you anyway.
And more to the functionality of PayPal, Karmafan is exactly right. Nobody wants to be overcharged or charged long after they cancel, and porn companies are notorious for doing that. Giving customers the runaround once they have your credit card number.
Beastiality is wrong. But join the army, working for the dark legions of global conquest and kill people for fun. Just don’t film it because snuff is enuf.
I can no longer restrain myself, the judicial principle is that you cannot shout “Fire” in a CROWDED theater, not a MOVIE theater. If the theater is not CROWDED, shout “Fire” all you want. Thank you. Chris
Technically, you’re both incorrect. You DO have the free speech right to shout FIRE in a crowded theater — but you may have to answer for it if someone is harmed.
Ive always been of the mind that you should be able to yell fire in a crowded theater…and you should also have no legal recourse when the people in the theater beat seven shades of shit out of you for doing so.
I completely agree with Mr. South. When certain people ask for beatings, the beatee should not have legal recourse. Also, the same priviledge that soldiers have with killing, torturing “enemy combatants” should be applicable to scum within the U.S., as well… such as The Roypist.