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from http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/2011/10/scientology_tar.php
Scientology Targeted South Park’s Parker and Stone in Investigation
By Tony Ortega Sun., Oct. 23 2011 at 10:30 AM
UPDATE: New Scientology internal documents about the investigation of Parker and Stone leaked.
Another interesting revelation at Marty Rathbun’s blog this morning: Rathbun released what he said was an internal Scientology document which suggests that the church targeted Trey Parker and Matt Stone for a classic OSA investigation in retaliation for the infamous South Park episode that exposed the religion’s bizarre upper-level teachings.
Rathbun tells me this initial document is just the beginning of a trove that describes how Scientology investigated Parker and Stone over a significant period after the duo deeply embarrassed the church with its 2005 episode, "Trapped in the Closet."
Marty Rathbun himself was once a powerful executive in Scientology who defected in 2004, and since 2009 has been criticizing church leader David Miscavige at his blog. At various times this year, Rathbun has made public similar documents which reveal the covert operations of Scientology’s Office of Special Affairs.
The document he revealed today suggests that Scientology had identified Parker and Stone’s close friends, and was examining public records on those people, looking for a vulnerability.
"To find a direct line into Stone and Parker some of their friends have been identified," reads the document, which reads like a typical OSA report on an ongoing investigation. The church’s information allegedly was coming from Eric Sherman, a film consultant who Rathbun identifies as a Scientologist (the Voice is attempting to reach him), and who had talked with Troma Studio’s Lloyd Kaufman for information about Parker and Stone.
Several friends to the South Park duo are then identified: writer Matthew Prager (That’s My Bush), actor John Stamos, actress Rebecca Romijn, and writer David Goodman.
"These connections are being PRC’d," reads the document, and Rathbun explains that the acronym stands for "public records check." Scientology’s standard procedure would be to put its private eyes on a complete check of these people and their property, legal, and other public records. If they owed taxes, or had been in messy divorces, or had been arrested, Scientology would soon know about it.
"There are some strings that will be pulled on the PRC on Stone," the document reads, suggesting that investigators had already found something about Matt Stone in public records that would make him vulnerable.
"Otherwise the special collections will be debugged in order to get some viable strings that can be pulled," the document then reads, and Rathbun explains that "special collections" is Scientology’s code for trash digging.
I asked Rathbun what kind of things OSA’s operatives would be looking for in the trash of Parker and Stone and their friends.
"Phone records. Bank records. Personal letters that expose some kind of vulnerability. They’ll read stuff into the kind of alcohol you’re drinking and how much. Prescriptions. They’ll figure out your diet. They can find out a lot about you through your trash," he told me this morning by phone from his home in South Texas.
"You can see that the commanding officer is pissed off and not enough is getting done," he says about the final lines from the OSA document. But additional documents show that the investigation did get going in a big way, and we’ll have more about that soon.
When aren’t the Scientologists pissed off at someone???? LOL
Some people have said that Scientologists are no more harmful than Mormons. The Germans have outlawed Scientology calling it a cult, and the Germans know a thing or two about cults. Scientology is also based on a guy who was a con man and then later a Science Fiction writer who wrote this book and found people to believe in. Joseph Smith and Brigham Young may have been con men too.
I have a bigger problem with LDS than Scientology, because while one cannot disprove all the Scientologists’ planet Xenu/intergalactic wars stuff, much of what the Mormons believe is demonstrably untrue. Like the claim that American Indians are the lost tribe of Israel and the Garden of Eden was in jackson County, Missouri.
Does anybody here remember when — not that long ago — the Mormon Church was openly racist? Those tenets remain, but the leaders talk about it a lot less.
L. Ron Hubbard wrote the Battlefield Earth series of I think 10 novels that were pretty good. Then they made the 1st book into a bad movie starring John Travolta.
That movie alone makes them all guilty of crimes against humanity.
‘(O)ne cannot disprove all the Scientologists’ planet Xenu/intergalactic wars stuff’.
Are you fucking high on crack, man?
Because the alternative is unconscionable..
@RandalX – Okay — prove to me that there is definitively not an intergalactic war going on outside the range of our ability to observe it. Ready? Go!
I’m not saying it makes any sense, or that there is ANY proof that it’s true; I’m saying it has not been demonstrated to be false — unlike many of the central tenets of LDS. You see the difference?
My point is that it takes a special breed of gullible fool to believe things that are provably untrue.
They’re both demonstrably bollocks.
Lay down thy glassy pipe.
The next knock at your door will be a Randal-lead intervention.
Or your pizza delivery 😉
@RandalX – It’s funny — I just ordered a pizza!
With respect, you’re missing the point. I can offer you scientific proof in the form of DNA testing that American Indians are not the lost tribe of Israel and that the cradle of civilization was not in Missouri.
There’s no scientific proof of ANY of the stories upon which modern religions are based. NONE of them are “logical” in nature. That’s not the point.
My point is one can choose to believe something that can’t be proven or disproven, and decide to favor faith over logic. That’s a matter of personal values.
But when one chooses to believe something that already HAS BEEN DISPROVEN, that person is an imbecile — or at least gullible to a fault.
As you rhetorically concur, both remain demonstrably bollocks.
Are we inadvertantly talking cross purposely about the ridiculousness of religous tenets as a control mechanism, evolving to adapt to the times but remaining fundamentally identical?
Yes, I think we may be.
As Christopher Hitchens has noted, that which can be asserted without evidence many also be dismissed without evidence.
Michael is right. The vast majority of our world believes in a god. Yet there is no proof. No one can say for sure that Scientology is a bunch of horse shit. All that space war stuff is Probably BS. No one has proven YET that it is.
At one time most of the known world believed in the Greek Gods, then Roman, and norse gods. Now we know there is no Thor or Odin except in the comics and blockbuster movies. When Christianity came along it wiped out all the beliefs in those gods and replaced it with the belief in 1 god.
Moslems and Buddists also belive in 1 supreme god. I myself have a strong belief in god, I just don’t believe what men say about god (Church).
The article has a link to the episode which is hilarious, worth checking out and shows why Scientology went on a dirt digging campaign against Parker and Stone instead of addressing any of the points made the Southpark episode made.
Hubbard was a sci-fi writer who once said he wanted to create his own religion because it would be a lot more profitable. In other words, he already admitted he’s a scammer, but people of faith often don’t let facts get in the way of what they want to believe. He has connections with Aleister Crowley and is one example of proof of how gullible people are. Scientology is a crock (no offense, Tom). One of the things that disqualifies you from joining their hokey “religion” is if you’ve been trained in mind-control techniques, because you can’t fall for theirs.
It’s not the wacky beliefs that are disturbing about scientology. It’s the power and clout they carry when it comes to litigation. There’s some weird shit out there about them getting away with everything from blackmail to possibly conspiracy to murder through their unbelievable power of attourney.
L. Ron created Scientology on the same day of Aleister Crowley’s death. Hubbard was a friend and disciple of Crowley.