L.A. Direct Let Me Set the Record Straight
OP/ED By Mariah Milano
When I returned to doing movies in 2007 I was amazed at how much the game had changed in 7 years. Jim South was nearly irrelevant and there were so many agencies representing girls. I was used to Jim being the main agent and when I showed up at his office to find out he had decided to close I was blown away. So I walked across the street to AIM and asked what happened and they told me he had closed a few months earlier but Seymour Butts had opened an agency upstairs called Light House Talent. I went in and after a meeting I signed up.
In the 5 months with Lighthouse I was represented well, other than a few issues I had, mainly the Justin Slayer ordeal and then Playboy writing me a check that bounced that to this day has never been made good. Seymour was getting scammed by a couple of people whom he had trusted to run the agency so he merged with Lisa Ann, who I was with for a few months. During this time since walking into Lighthouse, I had heard stories of the big agency, LA Direct. I had heard all their girls are required to escort and do bachelor parties and that you had to fuck the owner if you wanted work. I heard all this yet would meet girls repped by them on sets and realized they were the agency for all the biggest names in the business.
So after some mainstream things were offered to me and I had been agent-less for over a year I decided I needed an agent. When I found out that Mike Moz was at LA Direct I got in touch as he had been my publicist the year before with Star Factory. I really like Mike and we were friends so I decided to see what LA Direct was all about. I setup a meeting and decided to give it a go.
Before I went for my first meeting I got a few emails asking for photos and my bio, do’s and don’ts as well as my rates and my expectations from my agent. One of the emails was from Bud Lee who I had worked for back in 2000 and shot me for the cover of Video Team’s United Colors of Ass, my last professional shoot for 7 years. I really liked Bud and he was a true professional and in my opinion, a legend in the business.
Now was the last piece of the puzzle, Derek. We had met once on a set for Digital Playground but that was it. Was he really the monster I had heard about? I was about to find out!
I walked into the Vivid building in Studio City having no idea what to expect. When I got to the LA Direct offices I was immediately impressed. I first met with Mike Moz who gave me a tour and I have to say the offices are very impressive. Everyone was very nice and yet the mysterious Derek was nowhere to be found, yet. I love how there is a different department for everything. One person gets the booking, another does the travel, another does call times and yet another office handles the financing and pay. Finally I met with Bud who hasn’t changed a bit and was as nice as I had remembered him. We went into his office which he shares with Derek, who was on the phone and gave me a smile and a wave. This was it. The moment of truth. But where were the horns and the whip? I didn’t see any girls chained to the walls looking worn out and ragged! The meeting with Bud went well and I could hear bits and pieces of Derek on the phone with his King’s English and an occasional smile in my direction. He sure didn’t look like some kind of devil or beast.
When Derek got off the phone we were formally introduced and though it was brief I was more than surprised by his warm reception and he told me how happy he was that I had signed with LA Direct.
One of the most encouraging things I was told was that LA Direct doesn’t allow their girls to charge more for inter-racial scenes. To me that is one of the most ridiculous things I have heard, which I had heard from my previous 2 agents. I was also given the choice to name 10 companies I have established relationships with that I can book directly with. I wasn’t permitted to do that with my previous 2 either and I have been doing self booking for over a year so I had a few. This was an amazing thing to me. Actually several things were very surprising, one that Derek didn’t have horns and fangs and two that I when I mentioned the required escorting and bachelor parties everyone laughed. No such things are required of anyone.
So for those of you who have something to say about Derek and his agency, which I have in the past and owe them a big apology, you might want to re-think what you are saying AFTER you know some facts. Since then I have text with Derek and emailed him and gotten an immediate response every time. I was never given expectations that couldn’t be met, and was told right away that summer is slow and bookings for girls with a higher rate aren’t as common now. They got me 3 good bookings during my trip and everything went smoothly. I was given exact wardrobe requirements, directions and phone numbers. Lighthouse never gave me any director’s phone number even though I was going to be meeting them!
LA Direct is the most professional agency in the business, period. Just take a look at the girls they represent. There’s a reason that Entourage and all the other mainstream shows book through them. I have eaten my words and I was wrong to assume.
“One of the most encouraging things I was told was that LA Direct doesn’t allow their girls to charge more for inter-racial scenes. To me that is one of the most ridiculous things I have heard, which I had heard from my previous 2 agents.”
Sorry but that bit is confusing: does LA Direct allow girls to charge more for interracial?
Speaking of which, do you know why there is much less girls (in proportion) doing interracial at LA Direct compared to other agencies? I have read that Derek tells the girls that it’s bad for their career, maybe you can clear that up.
Thanks
how is it confusing? They don’t allow their girls to charge more for inter-racial scenes – to me that’s pretty clear 🙂
He hasn’t told me that and I would imagine that is up to the girls. Inter-racial is a very popular niche and I can’t imagine he would tell anyone not to work in a very popular part of the business. Some believe it’s bad for their careers but it never hurt my career and I don’t think Tory Black or Jenna Haze will say it hurt their careers, would you?
What’s your point Mariah?
LA Direct is not what it use to be. Only the guys on the site get constant work. The agents and Derrick are too greedy, they are never willing to work with a producers and their budgets. That’s why so many girls book scenes behind his back.
With all due respect, Ms. Milano, I find your I/R claim a bit incredulous. I saw your profile when you first signed with L.A. Direct, and I was amused that you listed “Interracial” as one of you bookable acts. Two days later, I notice that “Interracial” was removed. I’ve read some of your postings, and comments. You pass yourself off as not being racist. So, I assume that you are not the reason that “Interracial” was deleted?
Why does LIB always put this photo of you up, Mariah? I like the ones where you’re smiling a lot more. You look like a mean bitch in this one.
“how is it confusing? They don’t allow their girls to charge more for inter-racial scenes – to me that’s pretty clear”
Ok, thanks for the clarification, it’s just that reading the lines I’ve quoted, one may think that “that is one of the most ridiculous things I have heard” actually refers to “LA Direct doesn’t allow their girls to charge more for inter-racial scenes”
As for not performing in IR scenes, I agree with you, it doesn’t make sense. Which makes it strange when you notice that “LA Direct girl” is synonymous of “No IR”. Even yourself seems to have joined this category, as DThomas wrote it.
!…when I mentioned the required escorting and bachelor parties everyone laughed.”
You have GOT to be kidding. Porn’s dirty little secret is very much alive and well at LA Direct, and you are either terribly naive, or just a BS artist.
Derek is a sociopath, he’s universally hated by anyone who has ever been with the agency, and for a good reason.
shouldn’t IR be a performers choice? If osmeone doesn’t want to do that type of scene are you saying that makes them racist?
the reason that IR was removed was because I had said I would do it with certain performers and for certain projects, but it doesn’t work like that. If you say you are available, you either are or aren’t. I won’t do ghetto themed scenes, and there are some people that I won’t work with, and with there being so few black male talent I would be very limited anyway. I will still do IR if it’s with certain people for legit projects. I refuse to have some guy throwing gang signs during a scene. It’s fucking stupid and a waste of time.
Let me say this clearly, no one at LAD influenced me one way or another about IR. They said you can’t put that on your list and then turn down offers for the work. So either, yes, or no.” I decided to say no. Those who I will work with know it and will book me anwyay.
And SureBill, tell Alexis Texas that she isn’t getting work lol or Tory Black or any of the other girls. The industry slows down for summer and picks back up in the fall, and I promise you no other agency is booking girls more than LA Direct.
Thanks Jeremy lol tell Cindi to change it! 🙂
I understand your viewpoint (and wholeheatedly support it) on doing “derogatory IR”. However, it still doesn’t add up. I’ve noticed that, when certain women change agencies to L.A. Direct, their atitudes towards IR changes at well. For instance, a recent newcomer, who previously would do almost anything prior to joining LAD, conspicuously omitted once joing the agency. Additionally, a vetran pornstar added IR to her repitiore when changing agencies to (the now-defunct) Lisa Ann Talent Agency. When she changed back to LAD, she too omitted the act. There are other instances, but I believe that I made my point.
The other point that I would make is that, in your statement, “L.A. Direct does not allow girls to charge more for interracial…” could definately be construed as not pro-interracial. For example, if the agency would not allow a girl to charge more for DP’s (unless the girl is desperate for work) who would be inclined to do one?
Let me end this by saying I am not trying to cause an argument with you. I am merely pointing out the what appears to be inconsistencies in your statements. Also, I do realize that your viewpoint is yours, and you are not making any statements on behalf the the company.
Admittedly, I can not recall ever seeing any of your work. You seem to be fairly attractive, and I know of a couple of movies your are in, so I will make an effort to check you out. If your scene is hot, it’s hot. Whether it’s IR, or no IR.
wait a second…you shouldn’t charge more for a scene based on the color of the male talent’s skin. doing a dp or anal scene is far different than descriminating against skin color. do you not agree?
LAD is the only agency I have been with that doesn’t encourage charging more for interracial which I applaud. When I was with my previous agent I was asked what my interracial rate was. I said there isn’t one and that it’s the same as a scene with a white guy. I would feel like a racist for charging more simply because of skin color.
I can niether agree or disagree that you should charge more for an IR scene, as I am not in the industry. From some of the reading that I have done however, it appears that it is an accepted practice that performers charge more for IR scenes. Is this discrimination? I could probably make a good argument for either side, but I believe that goes beyond the scope of your post.
My point in using the DP example was to show that, as the requested performance moves beyond a “mere vanilla” (no pun intended) scene, the average person’s desire to do it would lessen without additional compensation. It had nothing to do with comparing an act to discrimination.
there is no way to not discriminate if it is solely on the basis of skin color. I could care less if it is commonly done, that certainly doesn’t make it right. How could you not disagree that is discrimination? Accepted by whom? Ask the black performers in the business if they accept it. They may have to deal with it but I highly doubt that they think it’s right.
As far as DP and anal scenes go, that is an entirely different category and has nothing to do with the race of the performer. Now if the guy has a huge dick then I see good reason for more money be they of any color.
Mariah you know I love you and all, especially now that you take a dick up your us but moralizing porn star is never a nice sight.
Perhaps I should ask, exactly what do you mean when you say “discriminate”? In, and of itself, it is a fairly innocent term; merely a way to filter. We, however, add the negative connotation of denial of certain things to individuals. As I recall, there was a recent posting on LIB in which Raylin was denied work because she didn’t fit a certain body type (Albeit, the handling of the situation was somewhat tacky). That is still discrimination.
Whose viewpoint are we looking at discrimination at? From the producer, the agent, or the talent?
Seeing that you a performer, I will based my argument(sorry, said I wasn’t going to use that word) from that perspective. There are a couple of things that I would hope that performers initially recognize:
1) They are not employees. If I were to categorize an adult actress, I think that she would fit into the category of independent contractor. The significance of that is, a a contractor, they are free to contract out their sources to whomever they please. It also means they are free to charge (dependent of market demand, or course)what they feel their services are worth.
2) The adult industry is a highly sensitive business. This is nothing like handling a legal case, or auditing a companies taxes. Their choices can have far-reaching and permanent repercussions. Because of that, I would hope that they would make their choices wisely.
3) As an adult performer, their career is finite. Aurora Snow recently posted an article that explained the difference changes her career has went through in the last 10 years. Because of that, it is important to make as much as you can, when you can.
I could go on, but for the sake of brevity, I will stop there.
I don’t think that it is disputed that IR is considered a niche category within porn. In fact, I cannot recall ever seeing an adult modeling agency not specifying IR as a category.
Recognizing that, and want to maximize my time in porn, I don’t find it surprising that an adult performer would charge more for every niche category, IR/Anal/DP/ect. I also don’t see a problem with a women who holds out on certain acts, to build up demand for a higher payday. In fact, I recall recently reading about a certain Latin pornstar havig a rare anal scene with Jules Jordan coming up. 🙂
As much as everybody tries, none of this is personal. You yourself have stated you are not prejudice, and I have absolutely no reason believe you’re not be honest. And yet, you said there are certain performers and certain scenes you won’t do. That, Ms. Milano, is still a form of discrimination. That notwithstanding, I still have no problem with you choosing to do so. It’s a business, and an intensely personal one. Your product is your body, and you have a right to choose how it is portrayed, or sold. Further, someone may have a legitimate reason for not doing IR, be it family, personal preference, or whatever. I am far more comfortable with that, than someone who says, “I really don’t like black people, but for $3,000 I will take Lexington Steele in the butt (my own example, not true as far as I know).
The bottom line for me is, what you selling is a vouyer fantasy for the consumer. As a consumer, I buy the ones that I like, and disregard the ones I don’t. If you do a hot scene, it’s hot, no matter if it’s IR or no IR. After all, the IR that you are (or are not) doing is not me, so anyone else really doesn’t matter.
Sorry for the rambling email, tried to cut it short.
Wow Milano someone has there head up L A direct rear end. You usually use this blog to bash everyone and tell everyone how important you are to the industry. I have followed the industry for a while and you have never been mentioned in the same breath as Janine, Tera Patrick, Chasey lain, or Asia Carrera in their prime. Second tier talent (Eve laurence, Aurora Snow, etc…)is what you are. Have you bashed so many people in the blogosphere you now need la direct as a friend?
– By the way there is nothing wrong about being second tiere talent I have masturbated to plenty of Eve Lawrence and Aurora Snow flicks.
– Hey DThomas where can I go to read that Aurora Snow posting?
I agree to some length with what you said when it comes to IR being a niche on your profile page that is either done or not done, just as boy girl or anal is not done, but that is because there are some who choose to do it or not to do it. I don’t argue that some girls charge more for it as opposed to fucking a white guy. To me that is ridiculous but again, it’s up to them. My entire point was the LAD told me they do not allow girls to charge for scenes based on skin color. I think that is awesome and is a step in the right direction for this business. But because I don’t think it’s right doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen or won’t continue to happen.
Ce la vie 🙂
@ njmojo: I found the Aurora Snow post at Adult FYI. I just did a search under her name, and it was the second story there. In defense of Ms. Milano, not sure if it’s fair to call her second tier. To be honest, I am still not quite sure what people saw in Jenna Jameson, and she is supposedly (one of) the most popular pornstars ever. As I said previously, I have never seen a Mariah Milano scene. So, I will check her out. If she puts out a hot scene, then great. If I don’t find it to my liking, then I move on.
I will say this for her. I’ve read her post before, she seems honest and forthright. But most of all, she is available to her fans. Hell, she replied to my post and this is my first time posting. For that, she worth a look. Especially when compared to the latest Silicon Barbie of the week, who has a PR company respond in an effort to get you to buy a subscription to her website. (Again, my own example)
I like this “DThomas” person. Seems opinionated – but fair!
hey Mark! 🙂
Well Jenna is without question the most popular pornstar ever. She marketed herself brilliantly and has millions of dollars to show for it. We have started a friendship and she has been nothing but sweet to me.
DThomas, I don’t claim to be a top 10 pornstar, and honestly don’t want to be. I still get paid one of the highest rates in the business after 12 years and over 500 movies that’s a rarity. I own my own sites and don’t rely on anyone other than myself which again is a rarity in this business. I would be more than happy to provide you with a password to my site so you can check me out for yourself 🙂 Just email me mariah@mariahxxx.net
have a great Humpday! 🙂 I’m gonna take the boat out for the first time in a month! 🙂
hey njmojo
well thanks. I won’t argue with you on the second teir thing. If you see me that way, then that’s fine. As Popeye would say, “I am what I am” 🙂 You also named 3 people who were in the business in the 1980s and 90s a totally different time in this business. Tera is still around but it certainly didn’t hurt her to have had Evan behind her.
However, I am important to this industry because I speak up when others shut up. You might not agree with me, but you can’t say that I don’t care about my career and just take whatever nonsense comes along lying down. I have thrived when others have faded. I don’t claim to be the only one or the best one, but I rarely ever see anyone on my side of the camera speak out when they are outraged or their health is being threatened. If you know some please let me know so I can read what they have said.
And you can ask anyone, I don’t NEED LA Direct. I have been doing just fine on my own for the last 16 months. But as I said, I have some mainstream things happening and want some representation so I don’t get screwed over by people outside our industry who don’t care because they know they can just hire another porn girl if they fuck one over.
On a final not I will say that I don’t use this blog to bash people. I use it to say things I think need to be said that aren’t. Someone needs to callout porn girls who are escorting and doing it without a condom for an extra hundred dollars or whatever. I have posted articles on various subjects and less than half were to bash people. You can do a search for my name and see for yourself.
I wish you the best and hope that your day is filled with friends and health.
The funny thing is that Black and interracial Porn is what made Mariah famous 10 years ago. But now all she does is slam it. I wonder if she is as picky with white pornstars as she is the Black ones. It’s not fair to say that all interracial and Black Porn have hood themes. Alexander Devoe’s movies don’t, Lexington Steele’s Movies don’t have them, and neither does Prince. I think it would just be a whole lot better if you just came out and said “Hey I don’t want to do interracial or black porn anymore I’m shooting for a more mainstream (white)audience.”
I’m not sure if your comment was (or should have been) directed at me. I don’t believe I made a claim one way or another about your rank. Personally, I don’t believe in them; entirely too subjective. Like I previously said, I watch movies where I think the action is hot.
As far as Jenna Jameson, what I said was not meant as an attack on her personally. But, I believe I have saw 2 or 3 of her movies, and thought they were so-so at best. I don’t think anyone can argue that she was marketed well, but that doesn’t necessarily equate to producing a hot scene.
As far as the website, thank you for your offer, but I must graciously decline. I did see you were in Latin Momma’s by Elegant Angel, so I will probably pick that up this weekend.
If a girls doesn’t want to fuck black men, that is her right. She shouldn’t be pressured into doing so out of fear of being labeled a racist. Please. Grow up y’all.
Well Ms. Milano since you have disagreed with me in such a gentlewoman tone I will try to retort in a gentlemen manner. There was a time (1990’s) when women in the industry were not so interchangeable. They were real Porn Star. No offence but if you left the industry another beautiful brunette would quickly take your place without missing a beat. You are beautiful and talented but with the acceptance of porn in the main stream more women are willing to perform in adult movies. When Janine and Asia were in their prime few beautiful women were willing to compete in their industry.
You are an intelligent provocative blogger but if you
are not willing to admit some of your comments are snarky at least, you are being less than honest. Attacking adult performers who have been on HBO an other mainstream outlets have been part of your stock and trade. Lets not forget you basically labeling adult performers who attend the adult cons as hookers.
*** On a positive note I would like to agree with Ms. Milano about the IR scene issues. I remember watching a behind the scene in “Big Titty White Girl” were a performer (E.L)openly stated she was holding out for more money to do a IR scene. When I approached perfomer K.K. (initials not political leaning) about IR scenes
she ignored my question and hyped up her first on screen anal scene.
*** Let’s not pretend we don’t know the difference between Julia Roberts and Jennifer Love Hewitt. Roberts is 1st tier and Hewitt is second tier. Ms. Milano you are definelty not Kathie Griffen (life on the d-list fame). I may not always agree with your blogs but at least they make me think. Finally (yes I know this is a long post) I want to say I wish you and everyone you love good health and a happy life.
Can someone explain to me in 100 words or less why they, personally, would be happy if PornStar of the day X, suddenly started doing interracial scenes? Unless the black penis she is doing belongs to you personally, I fail to see why that is so significant?
I have yet to read anything I have written slamming interracial porn. I did an interracial scene in April and did two in 2009. And yes, I am as picky with white male talent as I am anything else. I have an extensive “no list” of white male talent. I didn’t say all IR movies are hood themed, I just said I won’t do them. I have told LT at Elegant Angel I will shoot for him anytime and have done so twice in the last 2 years.
I turn down more work than I actually accept due to talent and theme. So maybe you should have facts before running your mouth 🙂
I don’t think that someone being on HBO makes them exempt from scrutiny, actually think it opens them to it more so. If they put themselves out there on such a large scale I think they represent the rest of us and should be held to certain standards. what’s wrong with that?
@DThomas
It’s significant for the same reason that some white fans of Pornstar of the day X get mad when she starts working with Black men. They want to see a girl work with people that look like them. It’s human nature.
Being a porn actor is a business, and as such I would assume it is in the actor’s best interest to get as much money per scene as they possibly can. No matter what scene.
Supply and demand. Why not take more money if someone asks you to fuck a certain color or race, or midgets, or fat people, or whatever – if you can get away with it?
It doesn’t make you a racist, it makes you smart.
I agree Chrissy, but when you base your scene rate on the color of the other talent’s skin don’t you think that’s fucked up?
Thank you Praxv for you answer. I guess I always thought that, if it wasn’t actually me, then it really didn’t matter. No matter WHO she decides to do, all I will ever be is a viewer. Guess I don’t fantasize as deeply as some.
@DThomas – I guess unless your black you shouldn’t care if black plumbers can openly be paid less than white plumbers.
@Praxv – come on we know its more than about living through a white porn avatar. Being neither black or white I have had people of both races confide in me on there view on race. White friends have told me about their disgust with IR relationships.
@Chrissie – You charge more for fat, old, and ugly? If you ever bang Ron Jeremy you must have made a ton of cash. 😉
njmojo, I am not sure if I understand your point. If you can expound, I would appreciate it. I am not sure why MY race matters, but I am black.
“Supply and demand. Why not take more money if someone asks you to fuck a certain color or race, or midgets, or fat people, or whatever – if you can get away with it?
It doesn’t make you a racist, it makes you smart.”
So a club owner charging black customers more than white customers and managing to get away with it and make more money out of it would actually be not racist but… “smart”? what a stupid comment.
desh, I think you’re missing the point. Even you alluded to it in your statement: “. . . and get away with it. . .” Assuming the experience for white patrons would be no different for black patrons, who would allow the manager to get away with it? I would imagine that the black patrons (and probably some of the white patrons who actually liked associating around black patrons) would leave for a fairer club. Or, management, recognizing this problem, would have to adjust thier prices to prevent losing patronage. Besides this, there is the problem of bad publicity, possible violation of civil rights laws, ect.
But that notwithstanding, adult performers should be able to charge what they like for whatever they want. Let’s say pornstar X charges $500 more for interracial. What does that mean? Doesn’t mean she will get it. It just means that what she wants. She only gets that price if the producer decides that she is worth the extra $500, and I am sure that they will only come to that conclusion if they can justify the cost to themselves (i.e. she has the ability to brings in addittional sales). If not, she isn’t hired.
Now, the pornstar, realizing that she isn’t being hired at that price, may lower her price until she is hired. I’ve read quite a bit about porn stars lower rates for certain acts, or overall rates to get more work.
well you can look at it another way. There are laws regarding descriminating against hiring people due to color or sex correct? same goes for housing etc.
I remember a guy telling me that the club he worked in was getting “too many black customers” so they started charging a higher cover and playing hard rock and country to run them off. he said there were more fights and that they didn’t tip. Is he justified in doing this? Legally yes and it’s his business but the mind set is what’s fucked up to me. I told him if there’s pussy, they’ll stick it out with the cracker music 🙂 and they did! 🙂
in the words of Rodney King: “Can’t we all just get along?”
How the hell does the black porn actor feel discriminated against because you make, say, $300 more that day by doing a scene with him, rather than with a white actor? It’s your salary, you decide what your going rate is for whatever sex scene you want to do. His rate doesn’t change one way or the other. Hi hasn’t been discriminated against – he has had his feelings hurt! Different story altogether.
Any porn girl knows that IR scenes are in high demand, so why in God’s name SHOULDN’T they, too, make a bit more money on their scene?
Besides, all you guys who whine about the girls who refuse to do IR scenes, have you ever considered the possibility that these girls may not even be INTO black guys, or midgets, or Ron Jeremy or what have you, and therefore decide NOT to do scenes with them. It’s the girl’s body, porn actress or not. She has ZERO obligation to anyone to provide a certain type of scene for you punters out there.
I honestly don’t think it’s racist at all. If I were in the business I would definitely pace myself to squeeze as much money out of my career as I could, even if it meant no IR for a few years, or charging more for IR. I might be banging hot black dudes in my personal life, but I would definitely go where the money takes me in my professional career.
It’s just a business tactic. Or, sometimes a personal preference. Get over it.
“I told him if there’s pussy, they’ll stick it out with the cracker music ”
This was REALLY uncalled for.
newklear, it was a joke!
Chrissie, it’s not that they care that you do the scene for more money, it’s that you won’t do it for the same. There are a lot of black directors and producers out there now and they have to hire girls for their projects and I’m sure they don’t like the fact that it costs more for a white girl to fuck a black guy than it does a white guy.
One thing I have addressed before is the shitty excuse girls use to say “I’m not attracted to black men” yet they do scenes with ROn Jeremy or work at the Bunny Ranch or whatever. You cannot tell me that’s a rational excuse.
I have gone where the money takes me and I was booked for a scene with a black guy for $800 more and did NOTHING differently. I was brand new back in the business and my new agent booked me for the scene. I thought I had been offered that much so I thought nothing of it. After I did the scene I was told by the BLACK director that they charged him more because it was interracial. I thought it was fucked up and haven’t taken more money for an IR scene since. I have a mixed child and I know in my lifetime or his ignorance and racism will still be around and it’s sad, but I think in porn racism is still alive and even worse, tolerated.
Who said “cracker”? Come on, this is the 21st century people. Such epithets make me feel less than human. I was about to eat some cheese and crackers but now I just don’t know…
i don’t think the black actor has an issue with you making more money, but how does he feel if he knows you WON’T work with him because they won’t pay you more purely because of his skin color?
Maria, who cares about how he is “feeling”?? It’s not your job to make him feel good. The guy is just a prop, and if he doesn’t understand that, he is in the wrong business. Your job is to make money, lots of money in a few short years.
Is this really different from not wanting to work with ANY select group unless they pay you more? Why is it always the blacks who complain about this?
IT’S JUST PORN, people! The girls are doing porn to make money – don’t think for a second that there is any other reason. There is NO NEED, nor some moral obligation, for a porn girl to back off from any extra money she can pull in in order to look out for the black community. Nor is she expected to be politically correct; she already does porn, for Chrissakes.
Tera Patrick didn’t do girls for a very long time in the beginning of her career, she simply isn’t into women and only wanted to work with men. I never heard any LESBIANS bad-mouth her because of it.
It’s a choice, and the choice is to be made by the girl, not her fans.
If you could get more money by working with redheads, why not do it? No one would accuse you of discriminating against a minority, even though, by your definitions above, you are.
Only the blacks raise that discrimination card every single time, and it gets a little tedious to hear, to say the least.
well I’m raising the card and I’m not black. not doing gay for pay is different than basing it on race. I am not saying everyone should fuck black guys, I simply said I think it’s fucked up to charge more to fuck a guy based on his skin color.
And I have been in this business since 1998 so please spare me the lecture on the strategies and ins and outs of it, as you said you aren’t in the business. I hear the things said by all different ethnicity’s that are prejudiced against in this business and it sucks. I do care how people feel and the guys are props for the viewers like YOU but they are real people and when you fuck them and talk to them and know them, which YOU don’t, you don’t want them to be treated any differently because of their skin color.
I am not a viewer, I am not a performer, I work behind the scenes since 1996, and I’m a woman married to a performer/director. Alright?
Although I find it amusing that you were so quick to jump to conclusions.
Wow! chrissie, your viewpoint is very hard-lined, and it has a tinge of racism to it. As you said, you do not work in the industry, and neither do it. However, I would imagine that quite a few performers, whether they work together or not, find that they travel togehter in the same circles, and interact socially. It’s human nature to care how someone feels, so a simple “screw you, I won’t do you because the producer wouldn’t pay my price” is very caustic atittude. Of course not to the detriment of her own finance, but that doesn’t mean she should burn bridges either.
As far as raising the discrimination card, Justin Long did an op/ed on LIB a while back on the subject. I tend to agree with his viewpoint, so I won’t repeat his argument.
I didn’t jump, you said yourself in a previous post that you aren’t in the business. And DThomas do you now see the mindset of many who are in the business?