An Experiment in Racism- “I only service Caucasian gentlemen”

NL- I’d like to introduce you all to a wonderful writer named N’jaila Rhee. She wrote this very interesting op/ed piece about racism, and an escorting experiment she did in college. You can read her blog here- http://blasianbytch.com/

 

After reading Justin Long’s frank and open op-ed, I had many questions -Why didn’t this happen already? Will others follow? Will there be a backlash?  One thing I never questioned was the frustration and anger behind his choice or my support of it.

The designation of substandard “otherness” has always been imposed on black bodies.   Even as more racial and ethnic groups enter the gamut they are still weighed on the white vs. black scale. You see it everywhere, politics, entertainment and most openly the sex industry.  
I would like to say that I’m 100% for everyone getting the opportunity to be depicted as sensual and whole beings. I support everyone fucking.  Most of the erotica I write is categorized as interracial.  My support of Justin Long’s choice is not about my own issues with race mixing.  I will admit I am not a porn actress; and actually don’t consume a great deal of heterosexual porn.  I am, however, an exotic dancer as well as a journalist who writes and reads a great deal about sex, gender and media. I’m also a mixed race Black woman.

My first exposure to racism in pornography came when I was a freshman in college.   My first interview as a journalism major was an Asian man that produced and stared in gonzo movies for his own site. My story was about the representation of “model minorities” in pornography. He explained to me that he did not make interracial porn.

 My mind was blown, he was an Asian man having sex with White women, how was it not?  He justified his statement by saying,  “a movie is only interracial if the man is Black”.  I wrote him off as being in denial then, but as I talked to more Asians and Indians that performed in American porn almost all of them repeated what he said.  They performed almost exclusively with White performers because they were considered White.

 As part of my final Basic Reporting project I posed as an escort.  To be believable I mimicked an escort ad to get people to call my phone where I could then interview them about their experiences.  I arbitrarily copied an ad in this case a Blonde “milf”.  I changed enough for it to be plausible ad for myself. This particular ad had on the bottom:
 “ I am not a racist, but I only service Caucasian gentlemen”
 I changed my ad to say I was exclusive to Asian men, I received some calls, mostly from White men and interviewed them and almost all of them said my ad caught their eye because “here was this black girl with the audacity to exclude customers”.  Many easily spotted it as a fake simply because of that.

 After all Black or “Ebony” providers don’t exclude Whites.  I was also told that my price was too high, they wouldn’t pay that much unless I was a porn star. The ad only had me valued at $600.

 It was one of the most baffling showing of White Privilege I’ve ever seen. Why would a provider’s race mean she didn’t have the power to be as selective with her johns as the next woman? Why was a white woman automatically more valuable?

 Fortunately my teacher put a stop to my story fearing I was putting my life in danger, not to mention the unethical method of gathering information.  I never got to dive deeper, speak to agencies that asked for “classy” women, but really wanted White and light skinned Latinas.
  I did however learn a thing or to about sex and race first hand when I began dancing at underground parties, bachelor parties and special events at strip clubs.  Each promoter had his or her own idea of how to “market” me.  When they asked my race I would say “ I’m black and Asian”. They would frown and explain that I wasn’t “Asian” enough to be billed as Asian.

 When I got to events there was my name and underneath it “Latina”, “Persian”, “Redbone” and if I was lucky “Ebony”. It was as if the word BLACK was taboo, like it would some how bring down my value.

 The only times I would be billed as Blasian was when I wore my hair straight, or wore a long straight black weave. I was even asked to speak as much Korean as possible. Which is ignorant on a great many levels.  One night I was asked not to speak at all.
 Promoters often asked me to escort when I explicitly said I would not. They would say things like “This White man will pay a lot of money for you,” As if it was shocking that I had the audacity to refuse a White man’s dollar.

 I wonder how many times the White dancers were begged to see men of color, were they also called stuck up, or uppity for refusing to go out of their boundaries.  Did they get booked as Black, Asian or Latina when they were not?

 My “haughtiness” cost me a lot of future jobs I suppose, but I didn’t feel that anyone had the right to pressure me to do things based on my race, size or gender.  Sadly many did not think I had that privilege.

 Privilege is the very basis of the racial hierarchy in America shown most unapologetically in pornography.  Imagine a major Hollywood studio making a film that depicted people of color in the way most porn does. Hell would break loose, books would be written and Oprah would cry solemnly into a camera.

 None of that happens with porn because too many people think, its just porn.  That mentality not only dehumanized every performer and participant in the industry but also propagates the mindset that it’s not worth reform.

 Many will cry  “This is America I have a right to free speech,” of course you do but if there is never a voice of opposition or another view point then all that’s created is a cesspool. That’s what American porn for the most part has become.

 The industry faces staggering downsizing and is failing to see opportunity to grow. The argument is that White males buy most of the movies.  Are all White males really that racist?  I would like to hope not.  I’ve spoken to a number of white men that find the racist undertones in pornography off putting and make them reluctant to purchase it.

 Using this excuse it a self-fulfilling prophesy.  If the movies made lack diversity, and don’t appeal to women and people of color why should we buy them?   This is a lesson many entertainment industries are learning, publishing companies are acknowledging how they shot themselves in the foot by excluding women, and people of color on the covers of books as well as in their pages. The adult industry is choking itself with an outdated attitude and business model.

 What Justin Long is doing is spiting in the face of the archaic notion that people of color are not initialed to the same privileges and value as their White counterparts.

 If you honestly don’t think this isn’t about privilege consider this, if an Asian woman said that she only wanted to perform with Asian men- would she be able to support herself in America being a porn actress?  Why is there such a divide between the respects that a Black female actress and White one receive?  Why are performers stripped of racial and ethnic identity at the will of producers and managers and how often does this happen to their White counterparts?

 I know I could never be an “Ebony” adult actress and perform exclusively with the type of men I usually date and expect a long mainstream career.  Even if I had my own site, would the talent even want to work with me a Black BBW and make themselves part of the “fetish” or “niche” market of performers?

 Now ask … would my White counter part be able so say, “I want to work exclusively with White performers”, and the more accurate “ I want to work with anyone but Black talent,”?  Would studios, management, and industry back her?

 Justin Long is rebelling against a hierarchy that never served a purpose other than to dehumanize, segregate and propagate hateful attitudes.  So I stand behind this man who is sacrificing his way of life to make a statement that it has to stop. I implore you to do the same.
 

 

123 thoughts on “An Experiment in Racism- “I only service Caucasian gentlemen”

  1. “The industry faces staggering downsizing and is failing to see opportunity to grow. The argument is that White males buy most of the movies. Are all White males really that racist? I would like to hope not. I’ve spoken to a number of white men that find the racist undertones in pornography off putting and make them reluctant to purchase it.

    Using this excuse it a self-fulfilling prophesy. If the movies made lack diversity, and don’t appeal to women and people of color why should we buy them? This is a lesson many entertainment industries are learning, publishing companies are acknowledging how they shot themselves in the foot by excluding women, and people of color on the covers of books as well as in their pages. The adult industry is choking itself with an outdated attitude and business model.”

    I really enjoyed reading your post and I agree with your views and see your points – however at this point I say let them choke themselves to death. Good riddance!

    Many studios right now are barely making a profit, if not going out of business all together – and much of the reason why is due to their “content” being monochromatic and boring.

    As a black woman or man in the industry, this is a PRIME TIME for you to get your shit together, open your own label/studio and do your own thing.

    I used to whine and complain as many know about the racism in porn. I’m over doing it though, because honestly, I’d rather jump off a cliff than work for any studio who only wants to shoot me now because they realize that “black tail” truly does sale and that if they don’t diversify their content in the future they’re no longer relevant or “en vogue”.

    What I feel black performers really need to do is take a stand against and boycott certain hypocritical white/latin male and female performers who actively stated in the past in video AND published interviews that they weren’t willing to do IR, yet later when they were “shot out” or in need of money decided to do so – and then later even go as far as try to base their careers and/or content they produce on IR.

    I find it appalling and insulting as an African American woman to know that there are white and latin females who are honored and rewarded by the adult industry who are obvious hypocrites and racists. It makes me even more sick to know that a handful of these females are trying to start IR lines of which continue a negative stereotype and even “fetishizes” black men and women.

    The whole mentality of “ohhhh, look at me, I’m a little white girl who’s suddenly taking a black cock – aren’t I EXTREME” BS makes me want to throw up.

    I feel as the public becomes more aware as to what’s really going on, these loser hypocritical bad excuses of human beings will no longer have the sales #’s of which they’re used too or the popularity.

    Like I said, let them choke and die to make room for quality people who have it together.

  2. BigDickDaddy says:

    The Asian guy she interviewed is Victor of asian-man.com . The website is simply a way for him to get laid. He doesnt show his face in any of the scenes. The incredibly small cock is the only way you can tell its an Asian guy. Most of the girls look like their bored out of their minds. The others look like they cant wait to get their money.

  3. @ Monica

    I completely agree with you that adult actors need to be more vocal against those that use that tired system to get ahead. All it does is make Black sexuality all the more taboo.

    It would also help to include more diverse casts in movies, If one could watch any mainstream production and see all kinds of ethnicities Ethnic niches would be done away with.

    I think that for women ( and many gay performers) its even worst because the industry has a very cookie cutter definition of “hot”. Its getting to the point where people are getting tattoo’d just so you can identify them in scenes. I hope that more alternative and independent studios gain success just to break that mold.

    I also think the Black community has to stop vilifying the sexuality of Black women while worshiping the sexuality of Black men.

    @BigDickDaddy

    seriously??? you can tell he’s Asian because his dick is so small? You must have studied a lot of Asian cocks. I’ve have a lot of Asian dick and I still couldn’t tell you the race of man from his dink alone. You must be some kinda cock connoisseur.

    Or you’re just an idiot holding on to a tired stereotype. A good 98% of my sexual experience has been with Asian and Asian American men just like any other ethnicity of men there are regular, small and monster cocks.

    Go on adult friend finder and look at the average man’s profile, no one of any race is packing in particular. Small Asian Cocks is old meme that needs to be put to pasture.

  4. jeremiahsteele says:

    Actually it was correct of Mr Asian Man to say whites fucking asians is not interracial. The word “caucasian” has the word “asian” in it.

  5. jeremiahsteele says:

    Btw, I know most readers think I’m being a jackass, as usual, but I’m serious. To further explain: the word “Caucasian” actually comes from a combination of people that became blended from Asia and the Caucasus Mountains(Turkey, etc). The mountains are in the region of Eurasia (Europe-Asia). Also, White people are all Caucasians but not all Caucasians are white, make sense?

  6. I’d like to say first race is a social construct and in being so the rules are constantly changing but …

    According to the US government and the Oxford English dictionary Asians and Whites are very much different races.

    Oxford says “”relating to a broad division of humankind covering peoples from Europe, western Asia, and parts of India and North Africa.” or “white-skinned; of European origin” or “relating to the region of the Caucasus in SE Europe.”

    That definition clearly leaves out China which is where my interviewee’s ethnic origin is.

    Also Asia has many sub groups when it comes to race most are scientifically classified as Mongoloid which is a very general term. Within the Mongoloid race are Austronesians (Indonesians, Melanesians),Mon-Khmer and Mongolian family (ex. Turks, Uighurs, Kazakhs, Tatars). In Northern India, Pakistan and Afghanistan, the peoples are some Caucasians, but of an ancient type, speaking Indo-european languages. South India is basically Dravidian/ Non-Aryan

    The language divide in Asia also shows a sharp divide of people yes there are Eurasian nations but racially most of what are considered Asian, are not Caucasian in race.

  7. BigDickDaddy says:

    Germy,

    I know you shoot 3 scenes a day 6 days a week but when you have time watch this:

    https://genographic.nationalgeographic.com/genographic/index.html

    It shows that human DNA proves we all descended from Africa. There is no such thing as interracial. Race is strictly a human construct used to exclude and categorize others. We are all blacks. Instead of making stupid knockoffs of Hollywood shows we need to do a porn move that explains why the further populations moved from Africa the shorter their cocks become. No wonder Victor aka Asian Man doesnt show his face. He is hung like a 3 yr old.

  8. @ bigdickdaddy

    “why the further populations moved from Africa the shorter their cocks become”

    a movie about why the further populations moved from africa the sharper their brain gets , and the higher their IQ become would be more interesting

  9. jeremiahsteele says:

    No Roy, I’ve only shot 3 scenes in one day a few times in my modest career. Why you keep determining a human’s worth by how many porno scenes they’ve done continues to baffle me. But assuming your theory is true, where would that put you on the star echelon?

    And speaking of theories, you spout about this article as if it presents fact, not theory, when the fact is it is a theory.

    Ironically, Roy, while you claim that this theory unites us via a connection to one race, The Human Genome Diversity Project (HGDP) which was developed in 1991 to map the genetic diversity of hundreds of human populations, was soon labeled racist and accused of commercial exploitation and conducting “imperialistic science,” (the potential for gene patenting, pharmaceutical or expensive genetic therapy techniques, for example). As a result, the project never got the expected federal funding.

    Now with the help of IBM (the same corporation which was allied with Nazi Germany), it’s, through a new name (The Genographic Project) making a comeback. The problem is all the private money which goes into the research and subsequent conclusions is not subject to public scrutiny.

    Problems I have with this (Spencer Well’s) theory:

    The origins of man go back millions of years. Evidence shows that civilizations, including ancient advanced ones have risen and literally fallen, continents have moved around like modern day baseball players. People have come to and fro from places all over the place.

    Also, there is a major evolutionary gap between modern man and neanderthal to suggest that either one doesn’t come from the other or that man is a human/alien hybrid, which would explain many wonders of the world, including the Pyramids of Giza, and how they were mysteriously built with such physical might and astronomically precision that still can not be duplicated today. There is massive suppresed archeological evidence of our origins which I could go on and on about.

    The Human Genome Diversity project promotes, not a new but a resurrected old (and much discredited) theory with new corporate money. IBM and the National Geographic Society are spending $40 million dollars and establishing ten research centers around the globe to collect and analyse more than 100,000 DNA samples from indigenous people, claiming this will help them understand their ancestry.

  10. jeremiahsteele says:

    suppressed /analyze whoops

  11. BigDickDaddy says:

    Germy,

    “Ironically, Roy, while you claim that this theory unites us via a connection to one race, The Human Genome Diversity Project (HGDP)”

    Please explain how race is defined at the cellular or molecular level.

    BlasianBytch,

    You have small cock genes. Get over it.

  12. jeremiahsteele says:

    That’s the old data your referencing which claims all humans are 99.9 % genetically identical.

    “Human variation now turns out to be seven times greater than was thought” -Craig Venter; father of the Human Genome Project.

    The orig­i­nal es­ti­mate show­ing near-zero vari­abil­ity in the ge­nome, a prod­uct of the Hu­man Ge­nome Proj­ect, was a re­sult of the dif­fer­ent tech­nol­o­gy used for that work.

    The tech­nique orig­i­nally used could read the se­quence of let­ters of a ge­net­ic code. But it could­n’t de­tect repe­ti­tions of some parts of the code, which al­so oc­cur. Dif­fer­ences in the num­ber of these repe­ti­tions, called copy num­ber vari­ants, have since turned out to ac­count for much of the varia­t­ion in a species’ DNA. Anoth­er type of varia­t­ion re­cently found to be im­por­tant is called insertion-deletion vari­ants, snip­pets of code that are ei­ther ex­tra or mis­sing in some ge­nomes com­pared to oth­ers…

  13. @ BigDickDaddy

    and you have low intelligence , get over it

    and races do exist , ever heard of a haplogroup ?

  14. MonicaFoster says:

    Why don’t you grow some balls Jeremiah and stop tip-toeing around what you’re really getting at in regards to ET genetic injection into the human populace.

    Go ahead and state what “racial groups” exactly you feel carry the ET DNA opposed to which don’t. Who EXACTLY do you feel is more “evolved” and/or less?

    Tell me, would you screw a Grey? Does the idea of a Human/Grey hybrid in a scene get you harder than an actual human of African-American decent?

    Hmmm, come to think of it a few talents of note could pass for such a creature…maybe porn is nothing more than a social experiment put together by the Illuminati in order to see if the long time genetic breeding program of Humans spliced with ET DNA really can produce a sexually appealing result of which can merge into the general human populace undetected.

    STOP TAKING COAST TO COAST AM SO SERIOUSLY – it’s not 100% fact every broadcast! Geez!

  15. BigDickDaddy says:

    Look up where Haplogroup A and Haplogroup B are from and then ask youself. Who’s your daddy! Your intelligence crap was debunked in the 50s.

  16. jeremiahsteele says:

    I don’t need to grow balls, Monica. You’re making assumptions, here. I’m not implying one race is better than another. I certainly don’t think one race is more evolved than another. Someone else suggested that. True evolution is based on soul or spirit, not physical manipulation. These physical things we are housed in are very temporary and don’t reflect our inner worth or identity. I have lots of opinions, some are more solid based than others, all in a constant state of formation, refinement, or revision. But to be honest I think all humans, ALL races have been tampered with genetically, extraterrestially. We used to have 12 active strands of DNA. Currently we have 2. The smartest minds know that the ultimate question of where we come from is a mystery. Also, I don’t believe any of us have evolved from monkeys.

  17. MonicaFoster says:

    I read what you wrote and posted as a reference between the lines pretty clearly, so now I’m not making assumptions – you just didn’t expect anyone to pick up on your point.

    Anyone reading your comments can see that you definitely have not only an inaccurate knowledge of what’s going on with human DNA, but quite the skewed view of “racial classification” as well.

    First you claim that “Caucasions” and “Asians” are essentially 1 in the same and then you bring ET intervention into the mix.

    Come on! Like I said, rather than eluding to certain ideas, be bold and outline exactly what you think. Where DO the different “races” stem from in your view Jeremiah – surely you have a hypothesis considering where you’ve taken this thread as of current.

    Who knows, maybe your hypothesis is shared by many and maybe THAT particular hypothesis is why those of African decent are continually segregated from the other ethnicities in porn.

  18. jeremiahsteele says:

    I didn’t say asians and caucasians are one and the same. While racial intermixing is self-evident, I don’t think one race evolved into other races. Who knows? I could be wrong, but either way I don’t have any race agenda. We should learn about our souls, not our skin, because, either way, we won’t be in it for any long, anyway. As I said, the Caucasus Mountains are a region which contained Asians and Europeans. Again the region is called Eurasia. I currently am of the opinion that humans are a slave race genetically manipulated and dumbed down. That’s why we are in constant states of turmoil. It’s control through chaos. Conquest through division; Machiavellian and Hegelian. I don’t advocate the divisions between men, only acknowledge them. It seems you’re understandably hypersensitive to the racism issue, though I could just as easily be hypersensitive to sizism in the world and cry out “Why aren’t more short people in certain movies, porn and mainstream?”. If I wanted to I could be the Spike Lee of the undersized and see discrimination left and right if that’s what I’m looking for. We live on a prison planet, and if you’ve ever seen or been in prison you’ll see the races all stick together. This is fear based. I do not have a prison mentality, but my point is races usually choose to stay amongst their own. I don’t advocate this, only acknowledge this. I applaud integration. The polar opposite is inbreeding and we know what happens there.

    No two things are physically the same, including snow flakes, etc. We should celebrate differences while seeing at heart we all the same; we all want love, happiness, success, blah blah blah. We all come from Prime Creator, which broke itself into infinite pieces for the experience. Eventually we will all be reunited, it’s been said. Regardless, it’s a fucked-up, unfair, discriminatory world we live in, and that’s not just in regards to skin tone. But when a person radiates in their true essence none of that superficial shit matters at all and it shows! Don’t think of your skin as a handicap and others won’t either.

  19. So now I’m “hypersensitive” and I “see my skin as a handicap”. Typical of someone to say who obviously can’t relate to what’s being discussed here but wants to act as if they can by paralleling racism in entertainment to “sizism” in entertainment (which yet again shows how little you research before you comment being that most of the porn industry’s current big name talent is 5’5″ and under – it’s a virtual land of the little people).

    You just don’t get it and u never will Jeremiah.

    What you’re saying in regards to “it’s what’s inside that counts” is all well and good and ideal but guess what – that’s not what this post OR this issue is about.

  20. Jerry says,
    “Who knows? I could be wrong”

    Perhaps the biggest understatement of the century.

    Monica, you continue to impress. Dont waste your time on this midget. As for me, I enjoy schooling this tool, and it amuses me.

    Jerry, you sound a little Lubbenish in your last post.

  21. jeremiahsteele says:

    Enlighten me, Monica. I didn’t bring up racism in porn, you did. You made that connection. Not me. Do you NOT see your race as a handicap? Why then would you be complaining about it? Why put things in terms of race when economics is hitting everyone of all races? If you also perceive that I am insensitive or clueless than so it must be.

  22. jeremiahsteele says:

    That’s right Joe. I’m Lubbenish. God has much better things in store for us whores than porn, such as flipping burgers at McDonalds.

  23. This entire post is about racism in adult entertainment (dancing, escorting, porn, etc) – if you’d read Blasian’s entire post and were able to comprehend it, then you’d know that.

    No, I don’t see my ethnicity as a handicap because it doesn’t impair my ability from doing anything in life. It’s not like I am BLIND or DEAF (I can’t even believe I am taking the time to explain the difference to your idiotic ass) and can not perform a task due to not having the required CAPABILITY. What I experience as a black woman is OTHER PEOPLE AND GROUPS who physically are EXACTLY like me but with a different SKIN COLOR that prevent me and others like me who HAVE DARK BROWN SKIN from having certain OPPORTUNITIES and who decide to compensate us less monetarily in many circumstances MERELY because of SKIN COLOR – and that is called UNWARRANTED and UNJUSTIFIABLE DISCRIMINATION and THAT is what I am ANGRY about.

    At this point in the history of humanity on earth, humans have walked around and interbred and inbred enough to where what you referenced in regards to their being major differences in DNA is INSULTING and is the platform that many hardcore racists use in justifying why people should remain segregated.

    You are consistently playing both sides in your posts. “No 2 snowflakes are alike” – YET you say there are definite “races” and that humanity isn’t simply that – HUMANITY.

    Yes Jeremiah, you ARE clueless when it comes to this issue and I’m not going to even reply to you anymore, because you simply don’t get it, and never will because you are most likely not classified in our society as entirely (or even half) black.

    The one thing that does make blacks unique – especially in America – is that was have a perspective that few others of other ethnicities can ever relate to or understand.

  24. jeremiahsteele says:

    I’m more sensitive than you think or will ever know, Monica. You assume because I am not black that I don’t know what it’s like to be dissed (disrespected, discriminated, etc)?

    I get dissed all the time, here (on LIB) there and everywhere. I auditioned for a Skinemax gig the other week, prepared for that role so well for three days straight I didn’t even need the script when I auditioned. I went over every naunce, move, thought within the lines, etc with my intention to OWN that role. But guess what? They obviously had a specific LOOK in mind; a pre-conceived notion, I would argue. But if you’ve ever watch skinamax you’ll know acting is not exactly highest on their priority sheet. Oh well. I was discriminated against because obviously my acting didn’t mean shit to them.

    You’re totally misunderstanding what I’m saying. That’s why you called me out in the first place to “grow some balls”, assuming I’m promoting racism and then bringing up racism in porn.

    I’m of the opinion that if you focus on race you’re using it to handicap you. I’m not saying having a certain race is a handicap, though some affirmaive action people will play like they are handicapped (limited from opportunities is what I mean, just as you say).

    To me you almost sound racist with the statement “Blacks have perspectives that other ethnicities can not ever relate to or understand”.
    We all have our perspective. The point I’m trying to make is that you’re being race-centric. Yes, the world is unfair. Like I said, I get dissed all the time. Therefore I am more than just sympathetic; I am compassionate to your plight, even if you don’t realize that. Still I would argue against arguing things based on race. I would instead focus on economic segregation, wage slavery, lack of universal health care, etc, etc.

    Perhaps you don’t get it and never will… Sorry for offending you. But regardless, I’m glad I’ve helped give you a forum to state and re-state your complaint.

  25. Again, Jerry lets his ignorance flag fly.

    Jerry, do you know what it actuall takes to get a job at Mcdonalds “flipping burgers”.

    THE FACT IS JERRY, RIGHT NOW YOU ARE NOT QUALIFIED FOR THAT JOB. And that is a FACT. Your pathetic attempt to belittle people who work hard for their money is disgusting. Who are you(a whore) to belittle what others do for a living? At least these people can take PRIDE in what they do. How about you midget? Are you proud of what you do, is your family PROUD of what you do, or are they just a bunch of looser burger flippers?

    As far as handicaps go, your ignorance Jerry is by far your biggest handicap. Your dilusinal belief in every lunatic conspiracy has made any opinion you have on reality worthless. And I know this becuase my great great grandfather was from a galaxy far far away, and my double strand DNA is proof of that.

  26. jeremiahsteele says:

    I’m not belittling people who flip burgers, Joe Don’t Know. I was, in a comedic way, addressing the “much greater things” some of us might have to do when the porn industry collapses, in part, thanks to your efforts.

    And why, Sir Hypocrite, do you keep belittling littler people by calling me “midget”?

    Monica has already pointed out the large number of people in the business who aren’t in the “tall” category. You’re also dissing them, too.

  27. @ bigdickdaddy

    my intelligence crap was debunked in the 50 ? and do you have scientific proof for your penis size BS ?

    and since you are so in love with wikipedia , read this

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashkenazi_intelligence
    and read this

    “Lynn’s meta-analysis lists East Asians (105), Europeans (99), Inuit (91), Southeast Asians and Amerindians (87 each), Pacific Islanders (85), South Asians/North Africans (including Middle Easterners) (84), Non-Bushmen Sub-Saharan Africans (67), Australian Aborigines (62), Bushmen and Pygmies (54), Homo Erectus (50), Apes (22), and Monkeys (12).[1][2][3]”

    and seriously , do you wanna compare japan and nigeria ? or academic success of jews and asians and that of african americans ?

  28. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_intelligence

    READ everything in this article ,

    jews may not have the ” big dick gene ” as you call it ( scientific study please ? never heard of that gene ) but they definitely have a higher IQ

    ultimate proof : jews represents 2 % of the us population but they have won 27% of the US Nobel Prizes in science

  29. “Blacks score comparitively lower on questions with high general intelligence loadings, which are more affected by genetics ”

    and this is not racism ,it’s from wikipedia

  30. jeremiahsteele says:

    Also, to emphasize my point that we should focus on class not race divisions, I’d like to quote a paragraph from Webster Tarpley’s book “Barack H. Obama: The Unauthorized Biography” (p.137):

    “Martin Luther King, by contrast, was opposed to racial quotas during his entire career, and this view was shared by both Robert Kennedy and by the black civil rights advocate Bayard Rustin. Rustin wrote that ‘any preferential approach postulated on racial, ethnic, religious, or sexual lines will only disrupt a multicultural society and lead to backlash. However, special treatment can be provided to those who have been exploited or denied opportunities if solutions are predicated on class lines, precisely because all religious, ethnic and religious groups have a depressed class who would benefit.’ The class-based stategy is one that would tend to unite all the present squabbling and contending oppressed groupings of American society in a united front against their common oppressor, as in the Wall Street financier class and their minions.”

  31. Keeping spouting your hate from the safety of your anonymous wordpress handle ppv1. If people knew who you were, you’d ostracized even by your own.

  32. jeremiahsteele says:

    Regarding The Bell Curve, the authors Murray and Herrnstein were funded by the Pioneer Fund, described by the London Sunday Telegraph (3/12/89) as a “neo-Nazi organization closely integrated with the far right in American politics.” The fund’s mission is to promote eugenics, a philosophy that maintains that “genetically unfit” individuals or races are a threat to society.

    I think the stats that ppv91 links don’t distinquish the difference between nature (genetics) vs. nurture (upbringing).

    Their research includes measurement of not only head and brain size, but also the size of breasts, buttocks and genitals, which lead to their “more brain or more penis” theory: “It’s a trade-off: More brain or more penis. You can’t have everything”, said one researcher.

    Thanks for taking Monica’s wrath away from me ppv. I know she’s not talking to me anymore but I would like to know what she thinks of MLK Jr.s philosophy which was against quotas and race-centrism.

  33. I think it’s a little sad that out of all these comments only one person posted some progressive thinking about the problems discussed in the article.

    Thank you Monica

  34. jeremiahsteele says:

    That’s right BlasianBytch, Martin Luther King Jr, Robert Kennedy and Bayard Rustin weren’t progressive at all, right? Those fellas addressed your race-based reasoning a long time ago. I also addressed the Race & Intelligence studies in your favor but perhaps you didn’t pick up on this?

  35. President4Life says:

    Well PV91, if you’re going to spout “Wikipedia” garbage all over the place, might as well read about the “myth” of the model minority, which is just more racist non-sense.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Model_minority

    “How Whites Use Asians to Further Anti-Black Racism”

    http://www.lipmagazine.org/~timwise/confusionethic.html

    And also, what does standardized IQ testing mean, anyway?

    The smartest man in America and maybe the world is a guy named Christopher Langan. He’s a bar bouncer from Wyoming. His IQ is so high, it can’t even be measured and he’s never accomplished anything in his life, other than throwing drunks out of windows.

    He has a higher IQ than Einstein and Sir Isaac Newton, but who’s done more for society?

  36. jeremiahsteele says:

    After re-reading this article (while contemplating why the author says things like “spiting in the face of the archaic notion that people of color are not initialed to the same privileges and value as their White counterparts”, etc.), I’ve decided that I’m not going to watch any more “White Trash Whore” movies because of the dehumanizing way it refers to whites.

    I would recommend the author not characterize the fight for respect in terms of “spitting in the face” of anyone or anything.

    I know neither she or Monica will ever address MLK and other civil rights heros stance against quotas and race-based obsessions. I can be accused by them of being insensitive to black’s plights and not even being worthy of taking to, but what would they accuse the likes of MLK and RFK of being?

    I also pose the questions of: How does one know disrespect is based on race as well as how does hate alleviate hate?

    If someone of another race is an asshole to me, and I’m consumed or obsessed with the notion that racism is rampant in the world, how do I know the person is racist and not just isn’t an asshole, in general (for reasons other than racism)? And if someone is an asshole, who cares if he’s racist or not? He’s just an asshole.

    I caution against what I call “Spike Lee Syndrome”. I pointed out a good example I read once, where a black woman who was part of race-based awareness foundation who after being told she talks very intelligently, angrily responded that she takes offense to that compliment because it suggests that people that look like her aren’t really intelligent.

    Bayard Rustin, aside from getting caught having sex in public with a couple of men (He was gay) was a very smart guy. His comments against quotas suggest that he acknowledges the selfish and narcissistic basis of those who emphasize their individual identity based on their race. To complain that one race is being dissed forgets that all sorts of individuals and groups struggle for respect, success and happiness in a world of unfairness. Examples are literally ENDLESS!

    The next hypocrite who claims I’m insensitive to blacks needs to explain to me why MLK was against quotas. Then tell me why I’m insensitive but he wasn’t.

    But I’m not gonna hold my breathe…

  37. There is no mention of any type of race quotas in the adult industry in this article.

    jeremiahsteele …. maybe you should read the article again.

  38. jeremiahsteele says:

    Fair enough. I suppose that’s as a close an answer as I’m gonna get. Anyway, the next time I cite shit in regards to genetic differences between races I’d prefer no insinuations that I’m a closet racist. Even though different races are genetically different to whatever % that doesn’t mean I advocate racism. All races are human and many (but not all) humans also respect and fight for humane treatment of animals (PETA, etc), so it shouldn’t matter how similar or different we genetically are.

  39. President4Life says:

    To wonder why a guy who’s been dead for 42 years’ political opinions would ALL be valid today is absurd.

    Guess what? MLK also used to be a Republican. You know why? 50 years ago, The Republicans and Democrats took different sides back then. Hell, it was a Republican president in Eisenhower who actually believed in intergrating schools enough to FORCE the military to integrate schools in Arkansas, etc. . . Today, Republicans would’ve considered Eisenhower a part of “big government” taking away people’s rights to segregate the way they want.

    If MLK was alive today, would he still be anti-quotas? Who knows. The Republicans have shifted sides to the point that Richard Nixon and Eisenhower would be consdered Liberals today. John Paul Stephens who was considered “super-liberal” on the Supreme Court, was a “super-conservative” 40 years ago, because the goal post for what was liberal and what was conservative was different back then.

    MLK also had become more anti-establishment as he gotten older, referring to the government as “the greatest terrorists on earth”, so who knows if he had lived another 6 or so years to see Affirmative Action, if he would have been totally against it. We just can’t know that. He was constantly evolving, even up to his death. You guys act like he died right after “I have a dream” or something. He lived 5 years after that you know.

    Second of all, to compare White and Black you have to have EQUAL footing. 99.9999999999% of every famous porn star in the history of adult movies has been White, therefore “White Trash” porn can’t nearly have the same effect as “Black Trash” porn based on sheer numbers. You have Jenna Jameson, Bree Olsen, Sasha Grey, and the list goes on and on.We have Heather Hunter and a few others, who wouldn’t even come close to the money or power as the biggest White stars.

    It’s not even close. You can’t make those kinds of comparisons until the power is the same and until the options are the same. Conservatives always like to jump to those kinds of stupid comparisons

  40. jeremiahsteele says:

    I think MLK’s opinions are eternally valuable, and worth pondering. Also, I hope you don’t consider me Conservative, Prez.

    There are great pearls of wisdom to learn from historical figures, whether it’s 5, 40, 400 or 4000 years ago.

    “These capitalists generally act harmoniously and in concert, to fleece the people”. -Abraham Lincoln

    We need to focus on class, not racial or other differences, because there is always a white person who ain’t doing so well, or a male (regardless of race), etc.

    Michael Moore says Capitalism is anti-Christian. The documentary “The Corporation” shows how, corporations with their literal “person” status, are literally sociopathic.

    I think Lex Steele is one of the most well known performers, black or otherwise. Meanwhile there’s a whole batch of degrading porn that doesn’t discriminate but is an equal opportunity offender.
    You can always find what you’re looking for if that’s what you’re looking for.

    I still argue we should not be looking at unfairness in terms of black and white, but on the ever widening gap between the rich and poor based on segregation of class.

    Most blacks and whites have a common enemy: Corporate Capitalistic greed which controls the whore politicians they own through their donations.

    Politicians work for who pays them. Who really pays them are the ones with the big money, not you or I.

    Let’s unite, not divide ourselves into races. That’s racism. As long as you complain about things along these lines you are only contributing to divisive attitudes and serving those who are serving it to us ALL!

  41. jeremiahsteele says:

    And while we wait for my last comment to get off “mod approve” status for God knows what reason, let me add that neither Jenna Jameson, Bree Olsen or Sasha Grey have ever shared with me any of their money, so how does that benefit my white ass? In fact, when I was involved in a couple of projects I couldn’t even get Sasha’s 2 cents, in spite of the fact that she always has an opinion about everything. If only I was black I’d be able to accuse her of being racist.

    I think King would still be against quotas today.

    Let me repeat this ETERNAL wisdom:

    ‘Any preferential approach postulated on racial, ethnic, religious, or sexual lines will only disrupt a multicultural society and lead to backlash. However, special treatment can be provided to those who have been exploited or denied opportunities if solutions are predicated on class lines, precisely because all religious, ethnic and religious groups have a depressed class who would benefit.’

    Let’s take mainstream Hollywood movie extras for example. They are comprised of both sexes, every age and ethnicity. Their wages are minimum wage. They are often fed and treated like shit to go with their shitty wages. They are employed by motion picture companies which spend MILLIONS on it’s movies, big name Hollywood actors, etc, but when it comes to extras all of a sudden there’s a fucking “budget” for them to be concerned with. Although SAG in relatively recent years has forced producers to hire 15% of it’s background artists at union rates, the vast majority (85%) are still screwed.

    Exploitation hits and hurts us all. STOP MAKING THIS A FUCKING RACE ISSUE and embrace your fellow man, not just your fellow black man (or woman)!

    I feel for blacks. I really do. It’s the people on the bottom who get screwed, but blacks are not the only ones there.

  42. jeremiahsteele says:

    Btw, a holla out there to Justin who knows we’re buddies, regardless of how my shit may seem to someone(s) else. Truth in debate should hold stronger like steel to fire; it only strengthens the position one holds to after staying pristine under fire. This subject is of interest to me (not because it “bothers” me more than any other), so if everyone boycotts talking to me, I’ll just talk to myself, like Bill M. probably does in his sleep…

  43. jeremiahsteele says:

    I think I’m made my point, and while Monica had jumped on me saying I should “grow some balls” and say what I really feel, I say this reaction perfectly exemplifies my point; that assumptions are the mother of all fuck-ups. It’s like standing on line at the Subway sandwich store and saying “I’d like some black olives on that” and a black guy standing behind you saying “Why couldn’t you just say ‘olives’? You had to say ‘black olives’, didn’t you”? Sure, if a person’s mind is made up, what can someone say in response, from that point on? Nothing, perhaps. Minds are made up and they will never change; the very thing the accuser accuses the accusee of being, right?

    And so we understand that diff’rent p.o.v.s doesn’t come even remotely close to equaling hate (masked or not), nor lack of respect or even love, I’d also like to add that my gf, Lucky, who’s asian, says she’s all for quotas and that’s it’s done her good. She’s been a Chicago Bulls cheerleader (one of the “Luvabulls”) and in many musicals, and she says being a “token asian” has probably helped her get some of her gigs. While I’m, of course, happy for her, I still disagree with the philsophy of race-based quotas and would like to present the following:

    Arguments Against Preferential Treatment
    Opponents of preferential treatment programs argue that when distributing social benefits such as jobs or educational opportunities, recipients should be treated as equals unless there are morally relevant reasons for treating them different. In deciding who should be hired for a job or admitted to a college or university, the relevant criteria are an individual’s qualifications and skills, not race or sex. To award or deny benefits on the basis of race or sex is as unjust as traditional discriminatory practices. Moreover, preferential treatment programs unjustly ignore the claim of need, denying benefits to disadvantaged white males while lavishing benefits on minorities who aren’t in need of them.

    Those who oppose preferential treatment programs also claim that if the purpose of the programs is to compensate for past discrimination or present disadvantages, then only persons who have been discriminated against should be given preference. Current preferential treatment programs, however, favor members of selected groups regardless of whether an individual member has ever suffered discrimination. In fact, most of the victims of past discrimination are no longer living, so the issue of just compensation is moot.

    Critics of preferential policies further argue that society’s burdens ought to be distributed fairly among its members. Preferential treatment programs are unfair because they impose the burden of compensation on white males who seek jobs or higher education. These individuals are no more responsible for past injustices or for rectifying present inequalities than any other individuals. It is unfair that they should bear the full burden of compensation.

    Programs awarding preference according to race or sex are also opposed on the grounds that they cause much more harm than good. First, with these programs in force, those who may be more qualified are overlooked while others only minimally qualified are chosen. The inevitable result is reduced productivity and efficiency in the work place and the lowering of academic standards in colleges and universities.

    Second, preferential treatment programs harm minorities and women by stigmatizing them and devaluing their achievements. They encourage the belief that all minorities and women gain entry to jobs or universities primarily because they are members of under represented groups and not because they are qualified. Minority individuals may question whether the rules were bent in their case, leading to feelings of inferiority, self-doubt, and incompetence.

    Third, preferential treatment programs encourage dependency and reward people for identifying themselves as victims providing them no incentives to become self-reliant or to develop the skills necessary to succeed in the work place or classroom. Fourth, as white males are denied positions going to less-qualified minorities and women, they will become increasingly resentful, heightening animosity and tension among groups. Finally, preferential treatment will spur claims from all groups who feel they have been victims of injustice. And members of groups excluded by preferential treatment programs today will demand tomorrow to be compensated for opportunities denied them. Already the nation is witnessing a barrage of allegations and lawsuits filed by non-minorities charging employers and universities with reverse discrimination due to quotas and other formulas used for hiring, promotion, and admission.

    While the harms resulting from preferential treatment are considerable, critics charge, the benefits are questionable. Giving preference to women and minorities fails to benefit the individuals within these groups who are most likely to have suffered the effects of discrimination and thus most deserving of compensation; the most disadvantaged individuals often lack, the qualifications and skills even to be considered for employment positions or college placement. This is borne out in reports that cite a growing gap between poor blacks with little education and job skills and affluent blacks able to take advantage of a wide variety of employment and educational opportunities.

    Nor is it clear that even those minorities and women qualifying for preferential treatment benefit from such special consideration. Recent studies reveal a high dropout rate among minority college students admitted under affirmative action programs. At U. C. Berkeley, for example, only 45 percent of black students admitted in 1984 had graduated by 1989 compared to 73 percent of Anglos. The high rate of failure that follows the award of employment and educational opportunities to minority individuals unprepared to meet the challenges of higher education reinforces feelings of inferiority among members of these groups.

  44. People like Jeremiah really make me laugh and here’s why.

    Things obviously aren’t working out for him work wise right now considering how he’s stating “Times are tough for us ALL right now – it’s not about racism”.

    Get real – times are tough now yes – but they weren’t up until a few years ago and if Jeremiah is a white guy and he can’t cut it in America as an actor or whatever the hell he does for a living then well – try another occupation.

    If you haven’t made it in whatever it is you’re doing now 110% or more, then that line of work is not for you – don’t attempt to suddenly equate yourself with a group of people who barred from attaining the same level of success as yourself simply due to a factor that they can’t change regardless of HOW good they are or how much they excel in their field of choice.

    Now since Jeremiah is an idiot – let me break it down further – and being that this is a forum about porn I’ll use examples from the porn industry.

    Lets take a good look at Misty Stone. She has a pretty face, is very physically fit, takes care of herself and is a consistent and above average performer.

    Yes, she’s finally gaining notoriety now after approximately 6 years in the business yet I don’t see her face plastered all over the place in porn mags – I haven’t seen her host the AVNs, I don’t think she has a flesh light deal and she isn’t nearly as well regarded as lesser performers (contract or non-contract) who have been in the business for a substantially less amount of time who are of caucasion, asian or latin decent.

    My point is if all ethnicities were regarded equally she’d be bigger than Jenna Haze.

    Lets take a look now at Lisa Ann opposed to Nyomi Banxxx. Lisa Ann gets press left and right – I’m sure she works hard but she doesn’t have to bust her ass nearly to the degree of Nyomi and I’m fairly certain that Lisa Ann receives MANY more opportunities than Nyomi. Why? Just one reason – Lisa is caucasion where as Nyomi is not.

    Need more examples? Here we go – lets look at Tyler Knight. He works a ton, is hot and can really act. Yet he is promoted and cast nearly as much as Evan Stone or Tommy Gunn? I think not.

    Everyone I’ve used as an example who’s black here, is TOP KNOTCH – yet not only now but in the year before they were NOT TREATED EQUALLY nor were they granted the same opportunities and no matter HOW HARD THEY WORK it JUST AIN’T HAPPENING in porn.

    Now as for “preferential treatment” – shut the fuck up – that’s not what affirmative action is about and how dare you even bring that concept OR MLK into this conversation.

    It’s amazing to me how so many white people who are clueless in regards to what racism truly is feel that if they bring up MLK – all people of African American decent will suddenly think “oh yea, he was for or against [insert issue here]” as if it’s the holy grail.

    MLK had a certain stance – but in all honest Jeremiah idiot, when you decided to reference me in your pathetic comment, you should have asked what I think about Malcolm X’s views because in this situation THAT is who I relate to.

    Shut up Jeremiah, because regardless of how you try to twist and turn Blasian’s op/ed – and no matter how you try to rationalize the current state of racism in porn you are still seen as nothing more but an ass kissing wanna be friend to blacks simply because you can’t cut it as a successful white man.

    All in all since you want to talk DNA – your genetics simply aren’t good enough to make it if you have to equate YOURSELF as disadvantaged in this world and society we live in if you’re a member of a class that is seen as the “leading class” – and most likely since you’re failing – that’s nature telling you that you’re not wanted in the future scheme of things.

    If that’s harsh – so be it – it’s the truth.

  45. Monica,
    Again I agree with the vast majority of what you say.

    Just one quick question….Do you know that Jenna Haze is hispanic?

  46. Yes, I’m aware but lets face reality here – she’s white hispanic and last time I checked, hispanic/latin women don’t have lack of work in the adult entertainment world now do they.

    Furthermore she is cast in roles quite often which portray her more so as a “white girl” than a latina – for example ” This ain’t twilight”. Also when was the last time you heard her speak a lick of spanish or speak with a spanish dialect?

    Any other technicalities you want to get me on people trying to avoid and sweep under the rug the real issue that you don’t want to face?

  47. Monica,
    Dont get your undies in a bundle. I was just asking as a matter of fact. Most people dont even know that shes hispanic.

    Do you think part of Jenna’s success could be that she didnt do alot of the “Hot Tamale”, “Latina Cum Sucker” ethnic based roles?

    And Jenna would have to be faking it to speak with the latin dialect. She doesnt have a spanis dialect, or accent. You are absolutely correct, to the porn world she is a white girl…Part of that is becuase she made the choice not to portray herself as the “Latina Fuckhole”

    And to prove your point a little further Monica,,,a month or two ago there was some contest for the best Latina performer of the decade. Jenna was not even nominated. If this were a real contest there would not be anybody except Jenna who could have won that award. Yes Monica, to the porn world Jenna is a white girl……but ethnicity aside, she is one of the most popular perfromers ever. She is definately a top tier perfromer.

    And Monica, your knee-jerk raction to my very simple question was un called for. As I have stated here, and on other forums, I agree with the vast majority of your opinions on the race issue in the industry. I have even stated before that you would be a much better torch bearer on this issue than Justin. ANd then again, one of my granparents is Japanese, one is Hispanic, one is German, and the other is a mix of Romanian and Russian,,,,so I guess I really couldnt ossibly know anything about racial identities now could I?

  48. The majority of porn consumers are whites, that’s the reason that well known white porn performers (or white enough looking) “get more press” etc generally than black porn performers. If blacks are the main consumers of any certain product those who are in charge of advertising or promoting said product will most likely use blacks for the most part in promoting their product. It’s not that complicated.

  49. President4Life says:

    Jeremiah, I named you a few stances MLK changed on in the latter years of his life, after it was established that the powers that be were still going to be racists/terrorists even after Civil Rights/Voting Rights, etc. . . So you can guess what he’d be or what he wouldn’t be, but at least base those things one who he was at the END of his life, not just when he was being courted by LBJ and the establishment. Him and Malcolm X were about to join up at the end of his life and Malcolm was assassinated before that could happen. They both evolved. Simple as that. You spouting that nonsense about him being against quotas makes as much sense as the Republicans who tout that he USED to be a Republican. He changed. They Changed. Society changed.

    As for White men being looked over for “quotas”. What about all of the George W. Bush-like White boys who get into better colleges and get better jobs BECAUSE of who their daddies know? What about all of the legacies out there? What about all of the nepotism and cronyism, which is the reason that 90% of jobs are given away before the candidates even interview for the job. What about that?

    Look at The University of Michigan controversy where minorities were given points for race and all the conservatives threw a fit about Affirmative Action, but said nothing about the fact that more wealthy kids and connected kids were getting in because of that, as opposed to their performance. A higher number of kids benefitted from that than from quotas That’s why those arguments don’t hold weight. You guys are always about “every man judged the same” except for when it’s about rich kids and connected kids. Me and you can march TOGETHER against Affirmative Action(which benefits White Women the most) when all the Legacy students and connected students stop getting jobs and into colleges OVER poor minorities who have good grades and DESERVE to be there. That’ll never happen though. Guys like you will grumble a little bit when you see Kennedys and Bushes passing down legacies, but will throw a crap fit when a minority gets into a college or wins an Oscar.

    And Jenna Jameson doesn’t HAVE to give you anything personally, her success makes it possible for OTHERS to have success in her industry. People who have been turned on to porn by Jenna Jameson’s or Sasha Grey’s mainstream ubiquity probably have put money in ALL of you guys’ in pockets. You saying that Jenna Jameson’s success has never done anything for you would be like a golfer saying that Tiger Woods’ success doesn’t have any effect on golf.

  50. jeremiahsteele says:

    Prez, You previously said “who knows” how King would’ve voted on quotas if he had not been assassinated (by the CIA btw- just so you know where I’m at), so I fail to see how pointing out his and other civil rights advocates stance against quotas (as well as the reasoning which has been provided) as being nonsense.

    Regarding Bush Jr, and those who coattail off their parents and friends, I completely agree with you on that and the other things you raised. But that’s another issue. Please don’t assume I don’t have as much of a problem with that as you do.

    Furthermore I’m also aware that the Bush clan rigged the elections and disenfranchised blacks who were purged from the polls (for example all black counties supposedly voted for Bush. Also some counties had more votes for Bush than people who lived there), as independent journalism has proven.

    Monica, I’m amused that Joe Know, who usually always attacks me, has helped prove what I suggested might be true; that you might be a bit hypersensitive. He points out an error you made (big deal, we all make them from time to time) and you FREAK OUT, with your “knee jerk reaction” and “panties in a bunch”, as he put it.

    I’ve disagreed with The Colonel a few times on things, but it never got nasty and personal between us. We agree to disagree at times and still treat each other with mutual respect. Just because I don’t agree with you, you gotta go off on a tantrum and cry “Idiot” over and over, get personal and start dissing me. Wow, as a member of a group that’s been dissed how hypocritical.

    You mention Misty Stone. She’s sexy and a wonderful person. I’m happy for the success that some white people (x-play) helped bring her. She deserves the best. I can not disagree. At the same time, there are plenty of white and other races who deserve accolades but never get them. I wrote an article about awards addressing this subject.

    And as far as the personal knocks and the repetitive “idiot” comments, go fuck yourself, Monica.

  51. Jerry,
    Monica calls you and idiot becuase you are an idiot. And the CIA killed MLK? I thought it was the klan. Jerry, heres some good advice from a very wise man…It is better to keep your mouth shut and be thought to be a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt. Jerry, every time you open your mouth, the doubt just contnues to fade away. Just a few more psts from you and the doubt will be gone.

  52. jeremiahsteele says:

    Also, Monica, you dare say “people like me”. Who the fuck do you think you are? Imagine if I talked to a black person like that: “people like you” “you people”, etc. I’ll have you know for a mutherfuckin’ fact Monica that I, too, am a minority: I am a minority of ONE! Get that through your prejudicial head!!!

  53. jeremiahsteele says:

    Hey Joe, I can go into specific details in regards to the King hit. The fact that I am aware of the details and you aren’t suggests I might care more about blacks than you do, as well as this country. Even Corretta Scott and the King family didn’t/don’t believe the official story. Wake up.

    It’s always a convenient lone nut that gets rid of men pushing for peace, justice and equality. Every fuckin’ time, and it always serves the powers that be.

  54. Jerry,
    What a burden you must carry. Having all this knowledge about ALL of these conspiracies…MLK,JFK,911,,,,its a wonder that the cia hasnt ‘silenced’you.

    Regarding the ‘lone nut’ Jerry, dont you get it…thats what nuts do. They think they are serving the higher power, with their dilusional thinking(kind of like you) Have you ever noticed that all of these ‘lonenuts’ exhibit the same kind of, conspiracy, paranoid, dilusional behaviour as you do. You think just like these nutjobs Jerry, your view of the world is warped by your inability to accept that your crap life is YOUR fault, not somebody else’s fault.

    What a burden you must carry to have all this sectet knowledge that us poor uneducated fools fail to see.

    SERIOUSLY, you need mental help. And that is not a joke. p.s. I thought Sophia Mounds killed JFK.

  55. jeremiahsteele says:

    Joe, instead of your blah, blah, bluh, why don’t you do the research? Regardless of what the truth is, Joe, could you at least tell me why The King family doesn’t believe James Earl Ray killed him? No, you can’t, can you? Are they crazy conspiracy nuts, like me, as well? How sad that would be.

  56. “I can go into specific detail regarding the King hit.” says Jerry.

    What you really mean is…”I can go into specific detail about stories I have read on the inernet about the King hit.”

    All of that gonoreah and chlamydia youve been bathing in as a porn perfromer is starting to rot your mind.

  57. jeremiahsteele says:

    Like I just said, Joe. Tell me why the King family believes that James Earl Ray did not kill MLK.

  58. To answer your question, It would diminish the legacy of the great MLK if he were killed by a ‘lonenut.'(which he was)
    It makes a much greater story to say the government assasinated him,,although there is absolutely NO EVIDENCE of any kind to prove that.

    Jerry, do yourself a favor and make a list of ALL the conspiracies that you believe in. Then take a long look at that long list and ask yourself, AM i really this crazy?

  59. Jerry also says,,,”Regardless of what the truth is”………Kind of like when you say you dont ever let the facts get inthe way of a good story…..that is the idiotic type of thinking that fuels your dilussional beleif in all these conspiracies. Just like you say, YOU never let the facts get in the way…….facts dont back up your stories, so you just ignore them and beleive ANYTHING that makes your STORIES more beleiveable.

    Now please provide us some more INETNET links to show us how the CIA killked MLK.

  60. jeremiahsteele says:

    You just said the King family believes that Ray didn’t kill MLK because it would diminish the legacy. You’re an idiot. They believe what they do because of the evidence you are obviously unaware of. Even if you don’t agree, you’ve proven your ignorance of the reasons for their beliefs.

    I’m the one who came up with the quip about how people don’t let the truth get in the way of a good story (addressing people like you who don’t do any research to either confirm of refute the official conclusions you’ve been told), and you turn it around completely to claim I suffer from the same lack of interest as you do to verify the things we are told.

    I was a speech/debate major in school. My job was to study opposing points of view so to best know and argue my own. You don’t even know the reasons why Coretta Scott says MLK was not killed by Ray. You’re a jackass.

  61. Jerry, James earl Ray killed NLK. Get over it already. He was tried and convicted.

    Youre a dilusional nut Jerry….
    Now if there were only some way to prove that sophia mounds actually faked the moon landing.

    And what a pity that you couldnt use that college education for anyuthing better than a life as a porn mope.

    ANd beleiveing everything you read on the inetnet is not RESEARCH Jerry.

  62. jeremiahsteele says:

    You know nothing of my sources, Joe. And disbelieving on your part isn’t research, that’s for sure.

    You’re an idiot, Joe. Like I said, you don’t even know why the Kings don’t think Ray killed King. You have not even the respect for King’s family or King’s memory to even know why they have the opinion they do.

    ‘Nuff said.

    CONGRATS LAKERS! What a game!!

  63. “You know nothing about my sources.”

    Are you trying to insinuate that you have some “sources’ for your information that anybody with a computer cant look up?

    You are correct, I know nothing about your imagination, oops I mean “sources”

    So tell us Jerry, who are these sources? And why havent any of these conspirators silenced someone like you who knows all their secrets? If one tenth of what you said were true(lol) surely you would be on some hit list somewhere.

    Now that you have indicated that you have these “sources”(another dilusion) tell us who they are, or would you be putting them and yourself in danger?(lol)

  64. President4Life says:

    The King family visited James Earl Ray in prison and came out even more convinced that he was assassinated by someone other than Ray.

    And how would him being assassinated by a “lone nut” diminish his legacy? They’ve been telling us for ever that Abraham Lincoln, JFK, RFK, and Ronald Regan were all shot by “lone nuts”, and that hasn’t diminished THEIR legacies.

    The bottom line is, all of the Black cops who were protecting King on the day he was assassinated were sent home against their protests to the police chief in Memphis. That should tell you something.

  65. Prez4life,
    PERHAPS the words “dimisish his legacy” were not proper.
    I was trying to say that the notion of a governemet conspiracy from the highest level to assasinate somone makes that person seem much more importanthat if some ‘lone nut’ did the job.

    What Jerry fails to recognize is that these lone nuts are people like him who believe in their own twisted minds that they are doing the bidding of a higher power(governmenet, or in this case, white supremicist movement). All of these ‘lone nuts’ believed in their own minds that they were part of a bigger movement, and were acting on behalf of that movement.

    If Jerry really wanted to research a REAL conspiracy, he would look into how Ira Levine, Nina Hartley, Sharon Mitchell, Bill Margold, JIm South, and a few others got together to appoint themselves as the leaders of this ‘health'(lol) orgnization in oreder to get the PERFORMERS to pay for the things that the employers should be paying for. Jerry himself has been an unwitting conspiritor for years by ‘donating'(paying) for his own tests to cover tha asses of the producers. Lets see if Jerry will do his RESEARCH on this one, and see how he himself has been taken for ride for the last ten years. Come on Jerry, this has been happening directly to YOU for years, and YOU havent seen it….PERHAPS youre as blind as you claim so many of us are.

  66. Jerry, you do know of course that in the early days of AIM all results were sent directly to World Modeling dont you? Of course you knew that(LOL)

  67. http://www.infoplease.com/spot/mlk1.html

    ‘Nuff said…This is from one of Jerry’s sources who contacted me through a secret government mind control device. This source tried to contact Jerry with the device, but their were no detectable brainwaves to connect with.

  68. jeremiahsteele says:

    Joe,

    Why do you mock that which you know nothing about?
    What the fuck is the matter with you?

    All conclusions other than what have been spoon fed to you via mainstream media are automatically crazy, right?

    Prez makes an excellent point about how police were told to leave MLK alone, despite the cops complaints. This is just like the JFK assassination situation. In both cases shots came from elsewhere. Regarding JFK, the official story still to this day is the scientifically impossible “magic bullet theory”. And you talk to me, Joe, about believing nonsense?????????????????????????? Earth to Joe… where are your detectable brainwaves?

    It doesn’t take a brilliant mind to do just a tiny bit of thinking and research to realize the official JFK assassination verdict is a lie. Yet, how many suckers like Joe just keep going on and on and on and on just mindlessly believing what the gov’t tells us? Former FBI Director William Colby (who was later assassinated) said that the government controls the media.

    “conversations that took place about King becoming a third-party candidate “were relayed to FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover and, through him, to Lyndon Johnson.” According to Anthony Summers, Hoover suggested to Johnson that the best way of dealing with King and Malcolm X would be to “get those two guys fighting”. He added the problem could be solved “if we could get them to kill one another off.””

    http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/USAkingML.htm

  69. jeremiahsteele says:

    Again, Joe says I and the rest of the industry should’ve demanded the producers pay for our tests and treatment. Which producer would pay for our tests if we work for say 15-20 different producers per month? Would each producer split the cost?

    You’ve also said we should’ve unionized. That’s a nice fantasy. In mainstream Hollywood most of the movie work is non-union. SAG only ensures (and it took a very long time to get this far) 15% of the extras get union pay and human food. Maybe porn could’ve, if were lead by Joe’s great leadership, 15% of the talent pool a guranteed wage. You can’t expect porn to surpass mainstream’s achievements, can you?

    I think we’ve all been taken for a ride in many ways, and that includes you, Joe…

  70. joe know Says:

    Leslie,
    You are correct. Did you know that Kira sued VIVID pictures on several grounds, including an “unsafe work environment’, and VIVID settled out of court?

    I swear up and down if you go back in my article you find joe saying “porn is not a job” “companies can’t be sued” I even remember him trying to recite porn laws arguement on this exact matter, but above is a copy and past of Joe knows dick own words from the shelly lubben article that he left comment on..

    LOLOL typical for joe as his words are curved to meet his argument..

    Guess porn is a “real JOB” and actually “employment” otherwise why would Vivid settle if it was such a hands down suit.. guess Joe and porn law are wrong and everyone else that believes companies, and agents can’t be sued and loose in an equal oppurtunity employment case regarding discrimination against race and color…

  71. I especially like how Joe knows is all bleeding heart for the young gal that passed in her sleep (read his comment on LIB) but yet again go to my article and read his comments and the fact is is thinks all stars are whores and prrostitutes..

    LOLLOL bleeding heart one day and stabbin you in the back the next..

    For fuck sakes with friends like that who the fuck needs enemies… Joe you’re a pathetic piece of shit.. bleeding heart that she’s dead but yet while she was alive you had nothing but comtempt and derogatory slur’s for all of us including her..

    LOLOL thats called a snake joe… do you need a rat for company.. maybe we can find a family member of yours to move in with you…

  72. Looks like Justin is aback for another five minutes.

    Justin, your reading comprehension skills are about equal to a third grader.

    4,3,2,1,000000000000

  73. jeremiahsteele says:

    What skills are you lacking in Joe? I asked you specific questions (post 77) you still won’t answer and on another thread you’re asking me more questions. Not cool. You talk about third grade behavior. Look at yourself. You talk about producers or AIM not giving a fuck about us while you diss us. You don’t give a fuck about us, either. Everyone’s got their agenda, ay, Joe? Some just pretend to care about us. Other’s don’t.

    Let me add that Justin’s interracial ban and subsequent comments have caused a real blacklash.

  74. Jerry, your moronic question was asked and answered several times last week so her it is again…………..

    After a scene in which blood borne pathogen fluids are exchanged, the employer on that set pays for the test….If a person works for four different company, each company must test the exposed employee, and the source of the exposure. What part of that is too difficult for you to understand…

    Now perhaps you can ansewer some of the questions I have posed to you, that you choose to ignore you fucking moron.

    Heres an easy one for your simple mind jerry,,,Why should the porn industry be exempt from follwoing the state and federal laws that govern the safety of emplyedes? Why should producers not be held accountable for injuries and illnesses that are a direct resutl of the performers employement with their company? WHy did Darren James win his lawsuit(settled out of court actually) when he sued AIM for HIPPA violations? Why did TTBOYS company pay the fines, and sign agreements with OSHA regrading their business practices? Why did VIVID applay for an OSHA variance, and then withdraw the application?

    THese are all VERY SIMPLE questions Jerry. DO you have a clue to the right answers? I say you dont have a fucking clue Jerry, but here’s your chance to prove me wrong. ANswer the questions and show us how much you know. THey are SIMPLE questions.

  75. And Jerry,

    At the hearing on the 29th, are you going to tell everybody there your comspiracy stories about what HIV reallyis,, and are you going to directly tell the AHF what you have said about forcing mothers to take killer drugs? Are you going to tell the panel about Dr. Riggs, and how many performers use that clinic alos? THese are simple questions Jerry, lets see you answer them.

    I am looking forward to seeing you make a complete fool of yourself…Perhaps Comedy Central can film your testiomony for future broadcast.

  76. jeremiahsteele says:

    Talk about a fucking moron… I already told you moron the only reason I’m going to the meeting is to meet you! Like I already said, asshole, you fucked up. You expect me to answer your questions when you keep personally insulting me and other performers?????????????????????????????????????? What book do you read, “How to win friends and influence people”? I might have been willing to benefit your cause by honestly answering some relevant questions (and my opinions about HIV/AIDS are not relevant at the time), but as I’ve said over and over your disrespect to the performers you claim to care about is oxymoronic.

    You’ve previously stated employers should pay for performers’ tests. And if a person catches or tests positive for something how is it necessarily clear exactly where or who it was caught from? Also what do you think about the arbitrary 30 days window between testing? Shouldn’t performers test the day before? Are there really any stupid questions if all questions with the proper answers make us all a little more informed? If I am mentally challenged don’t I deserve some respect for trying, at least, instead of insults, just as you insult my and others’ height by calling me “midget”? We can’t all be as smart as you, Joe (thankfully). Also you still haven’t answered my question of how would unionizing performers’ wages work when it still doesn’t in mainstream Hollywood? I’m trying to understand this whole thing on a down to Earth level, while you’re eluciditing from Uranus.

  77. Jerry,
    Youre not fooling anybody.
    This whole long rant and you still ignore my question. You know full well, as does everybody else reading this, that the reson you wont answer the questions is becuase…YOU DONT KNOW THE NASWERS.

    Poor jerry,,,Im not answering your questions becuaswe you made fun of me for being a midget.

    Jerry, did you know that in the Borooke Ahley case,, which she won,,,not one single bit of evidence wasw presented that ANYBODY on that set had HIV.

    Heres how workplace safety and workers comp works you midget moron. As I have told you SEVERAL times befrore here,….
    If the employee can show that there is a reasonable likelyhood that the injury occured during employment, they will win. They only have to show, that during the cousre of their employmnet, while performing their work duties in accordance with the standards of the employer, that those duties if performed correctly, ‘coud” cause the injury that the plaintiff is seking relief from, the employee WINS. This is EXACTLY qwhat Brooke Ashley dod, it was appealed all the way to the Cal. Supreme Court, and the decision was upheld. CASE CLOSED

    The thirty day testing is a joke. Performers like Bella donna, who ahve a little more respect for their health and well being know this,,,that is why they have their own standsrds that they requuire anyone who works woth them to follow.

    Yet you still grasp any any staw pssible to make aplogies for the industry that has been exploiting you for years,,,,,yet you wont answer simple questions that are put to you,,,well becuase you dont know the answers perhaps.

  78. And now Jerry says hes going to the meeting but NOT to testify..What a fucking COWARD you are Jerry. Here is your chance to stand face to face with the people you so vilify here for their unethical practices, but you dont have the guts to confront them face to face, on the record, in front of the whole world. Your one chance and youre not going to take it. What a fucking coward. You can stand face to face with the president of the AHF and tell him what you think, but you dont have the balls.

    Or is the ral rason that you dont want to embarras yourself? I think this is the true reason you dont have the balls to testify.

  79. Jerry accuses people here on this site of forcing people to take drugs that will kill them, but does not have the balls to stand face to face with the very people he accuses of the horrendous acts. Somehow, this must be Sophias fault.

  80. The President says:

    joe, why do you always make 3 separate replies taking up all this space in every comment section with the same rambling? Nobody here cares about your obsession with stds in the porn industry. Don’t you have anything else to occupy your time with? At all?

  81. President,

    I enjoy popunding my pints hme, especially when you have the like of Justin and Jerry who try as hard a s they can but just cant refute what I say. They make their excuses, and then make up stories about who I am and what my motives are, but they never address the issues I bring up.

    Its fun making you guys look like fools. And its easy too. ANd as far as nobody caring about these issues, I beg to differ. If nobody cared, AIM wouldnt be spendig 170,000.oo dollars of perfromer money to protect producers now would they. They obvioulsy care very much, to the tune of hundres of thousand of dollars. That says more than anything you could possibly dream up.

  82. jeremiahsteele says:

    To answer your question President, Joe obviously has a lot of personal problems, especially with short people or people who have different opinions then he does.

    Like I said, Joe Know, you fucked up. You’re an absolute disgrace to the cause you believe in and the organization(s) you represent.

    But make sure you come up and introduce yourself to me at the meeting and I will still consider addressing OSHA and the AHF.

    But let me warn you know right now, you piece of shit, that the industry overall has treated me a lot better than you have on this site, you stupid hypocrite.

    Also, you still haven’t answered my questions. What gives, moron?

  83. Is Jerry actaull growing some balls. You will stil consider testifying at the meeting. How brave of you jerry.

    And you stillhavent asnwered any of my questions either now have you?

    And those questions you say I havent asnwered have ALL been answered SEVERAL times in the last few weeks,,,but you have still refused to even think about answering the questions I have posed to you. Look at post 82 Jerry, let see if you have the guts, to tackle those questions….of course you dont.
    And you still wont commit to testigying at the hearing. After all Jerry, you are a “Stake Holder” in the industry. How could someone who accuses others of killing people, like you have done numerous times on this site alone, not have the balls to face the very people that you accuse of murder?

    Now go on another meaningless rant, ignore the questions, and make excuses for your industry that has been ripping you off for years. For christs sake Jerry, you even admitted right here that you DID NOT KNOW that all that money you gave to AIM was a donation. YOU dont even know how your own industryoperates, but then again, the industry RELIES on the ignorance of the perfromers to operate. ANd YOU make it very easy for them.

    NO BALLS STEELE, doesnt have the guts to stand face to face with the people he accuses of murder.

  84. The president of the largest HIV organization in the world will be ther Jerry. Are you going to tell him what you know, from your secret sources?

  85. jeremiahsteele says:

    Imagine a spouse says to another spouse:

    “HEY YOU PIECE OF SHIT ANSWER MY QUESTION, BITCH!!!!”

    These are your tactics, Joe.

    I’ve got balls, Joe. I’ll show them to you if you like if you got the balls to introduce yourself to me. That’s your only chance I will testify. You made this issue personal, Joe. And I will not answer any of your questions when you continue to disrespect me you IDIOT!

    Shelley’s video talks about the porn industry dishing out verbal abuse. And after all of your continual verbal abuse you claim to be on Shelley’s side???

  86. Again, exactly as I predicted, Jerry qpouts off more made up shit to avoid answering the questions.

    I will not answer your questions when you continue to disrespect me….LOL What have you ever done to earn anybodys respect? You DEMAND of me to answer your questions, Nd I do, but you dont got the balls to ansewer mine.

    Try this Jerry, Will you please answer the simple questions that have been asked of you, or will you continue to make excuses? Youre not fooling anybody Jerry. The FACT is, you have NO CLUE what the answers are> and you lame excuses only prove my point even more. or maybe you can prove me wrong.(lol)

    And after seeing the things you have said about your ex,,FOR YEARS NOW, who the fuck are you to demand respect from anybody, you fucking little midget piece of human shit.

    Arent those the EXACT SAME TACTICS you have been using for YEARAS with your ex Jerry? YES THEY ARE.

    Seem like the man of Steele can dish it out, but he sure cant take it.

    Jerry is a SuperZero, not a superhero.

    Youhave had no problems at all hurling insults for years at your ex, and now that somebody does it to you(midget) you cant handle it. What a fucking pussy?

    ANswer the questions and prove me wrong, or continue to be a pussy,,,,those are your two choices.

    And if anybone believes that Jerry is actually going to testify at the hearing, I got some swamp land in Florida, and a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.

  87. jeremiahsteele says:

    Sophia is not my ex, just an ex roommate. I didn’t start it.

    If someone called you a “piece of shit midget” would you answer their questions? Do you really think you’ve earned that priviledge? Do you think I would demean myself to answer questions of someone who calls me “piece of shit midget”?

    Believe it or not, moron, I’m actually here to see things improve in porno land. I enjoy debating, am open minded, am as willing to learn as much as I am to teach. I could actually be on your side, if you didn’t make having a conversation with you impossible.

    Why do you keep calling me “midget”? What have short people ever done to you? Were you gang-raped by a gang of midgets in a circus tent when you were in 3rd grade?

    I will promise you this: Introduce yourself to me at the meeting and I promise to testify at the hearing… assuming I haven’t already been arrested for kicking and beating you to within an inch of your life for your constant insults.

    We’ll see who’s got balls on the 29th.

  88. Jerry,
    If someon called me a piece of shit midget, I would answer their questions, prove them wrong, and put them in their place. But since you DON NOT KNOW the answers, you cry like a little bitch about being called names. Youre not fooling anybody Jerry, you simply dont know the answers.

  89. jeremiahsteele says:

    Who are you to say what answers I know and don’t know? After bragging to me previously that you’re not in the industry you now play games with Justin (on his interracial thread) and imply that are. What I do know for sure, Joe, is that you got serious behavior problems.

  90. I like your last post Jerry,,,”,you could actually be on my side”

    Come on Jerry, I do know that youre not stupid, but to disagree with the message becuase you dont like the messanger is quite hypocritical.

    When youre right, youre right. When youre wrong youre wrong. The personality of the person has nothing to do with right or wrong. Just because I am a huge arrogant prick doesnt change what is wrong or right. ANd I am not the one who has reported thousands of cases of std’s in the porn industry, That would be AIM.

    How can a HIV testing center FIGHT against condoms for sex workers? Even street walking crack head prostitutes know enough to use condoms. Their stance on this issue has NOTHING to do with healthcare, it has everyhting to do with ‘keeping the cameras rolling.” WIthout getting into another pissing match, what do you think of this Jerry. I am truely interested in your honest opinion about this. Maybe yu can pretend that soemone else asked the question, and reply as you would to somone else.

  91. And heres another serious question Jerry, that I wuold realy like your honest opinion on. How come AIM has spent 170,000.oo of performer money to protect producers identities? SHouldny the FSC be fighting that battle for them> It is the FSC that represents producers. Is it right for perfromers to foot the bill for this?

  92. And now AIM is closing one of their locations that serves the talent, becuase they spent so much talent money protecting producers. What do ya think of that. I think it really shows what AIM’s priorities are. How about you?

  93. jeremiahsteele says:

    Joe know says “I am a huge arrogant prick”.

    The only pricks I’m going to take are the needle blood samples I give once a month. Why don’t you find a non-prick to argue in your case because you’re not helping anyone’s cause and are only serving your retarded, needy ego.

    Arrogance and ignorance go hand in hand… ALWAYS!

  94. You go take your pircks jerry, and remember, when you “PAY” for that prick you are giving money to the lawyers for Larry Flynt, Steve Hirsh, etc.

    Of couse you wont answer my questions. Everybody who reads this board knows you dont have the balls to even begin to tacke the issues I bring up.

    Using the personality of the messanger as a reason to not respond to the message is as weak as your other lunatic conspiracy theories.

    ANd as far as finding someone to debate these issues,,,there is not ONE single person in the industry willing to answer these questions honestly.

    YOU KNOW FULL WELL JERRY THAT IF YOU ANSWERED THESE QUESTION HONESTLY IT WOULD HURT WHAT IS LEFT OF YOUR ‘CARREER'(if thats what you call it)

    Everyone here jumps on shelley for not snswering questions, but all of them lso refuse to address the issues I have bought up.

    Jerry, you even said that you ‘might’ be on my side, but you dont have the balls to come out and actuall say it. Just liek you have to say “PERHAPS” youre right. There is no “erhaps’ about it. Everything I have said here about the industry is FACT,,,,show me anything I have written about the industry that is not a FACT. I challenge you.

  95. p.s thanks for all of your resopnses and keeping this debate alive. You say you dont care about what I say,but your number of resonses to me tell quite a different story. Thank you for all your help, especially earlier last week when you talked about all the performers gong to West Coat Urgent Care. That was exactly what I was loking for. Thanks

  96. I think I have aqueezed everything i nedd from you . Thanks again, youve been a tremndous help.

  97. jeremiahsteele says:

    Someone should help you with your typing skills, Joe.

  98. joe know obviously has a ton of free time on his hands, but he has some good points.

    jerry, you should use some of your time to investigate your own industry rather than babbling about ufo sightings.

  99. Thanks Jrod,
    But I guess I lose the dbate becuase i spelled some words wrong. You see, when debating porn people, they always resort to the same old line about typing skills when they have no ther argument. This has happend to me dozens of times on this board. These guys NEVER fail to use this same tactic. And Jerry says he majored in debate in college. he should know then how weak that ad hominen attack is. Just goes to show that he has NO answers for the questions posed to him, so he makes comments about spelling errors,,,Yes Jerry, did you learn that debate techinque in college?

  100. haya Joe Knows,

    Hay I left you a post kindly requesting the link to the “secret” documents that proves AIM is handing over checks or cash to production companies and/or there attorneys….

    Could you kindly publish the link… I have been in the industry for over 12 years and have never heard or seen anything of the such… True enough i don’t believe things are not as Dr. Mitchell (Sharon as I know her – since we have known each other personally for over 12 years as well) always might say, but I also am not blind to your agenda either

    So please send over the docs or links I would love to take a gander and if it is how you say it is, then maybe we’ll actually agree on something for once…

  101. PS I have personally seen Jeremy answer all sorts of you questions Joe Knows.. So I find that pretty unfair but typical of you to say people are’nt answering your questions wwhen in fact you more often then not switch a subject when YOU can’t answer questions..

    Like — why are you bleeding heart for a dead 19 year old porn star, when while she was alive you were calling AL porn stars prostitutes and whores???

    Like — why are you reciting and agree with pornlaw one day saying companies cant and shouldn’t be held liable for racial discrimination and porn sets are’nt work places but then in other post you are telling other people that OSHA has the right and should regulate porn because “its a workplace”

    Like — why are you and Shelley rambelling numbers of “25” cases of HIV in porn talent since 04′ when even the LA times has redacted that statement – the fact is AIM reported in whole (stars and civilian) that 25 people had tested positive since 04′ and all but 5 or 6 were civilian — making the 5 or 6 Talent..

    AIM doesn’t turn over names to the county, just test and results and the lab number associated with the test and result “no name”.. this was the basis of darren james’s suit against AIM if I am correct.. AIM learned there lesson and now is in a pickle… either get sued or hounded.. either way they are fucked..

    This is why AIM didn’t release the name of the last case which was a new MILF to the industry ..

  102. Justin,
    You are flat out INCORRECT abut names being given to the county…..It is federal law that HIV results are reported by name to the county. What you cite WAS the law about ten years lago. The basis of Darrens wuit was the illegality of the waiver. Even if the waiver was legal, that waiver did not give AIM the right to publish his name on the web for the evtire world to see. The law states that NO IDENTIFYING INFORMATION be given about HIV postitive patients can be released,,,that includes gender, and age. IF yu read the court ruling from the platest patient zero injunction, you will see that AIM violated her privacy just by mentioning that she was a 42 year old female. AIM was ordered NOT to disclose HIV resutlts to ANYBODY that they are not required by law to inform. ANd I agree, AIM is in one hell of a pickle.

    Jerry,
    Where did I ever say that AIM was handing money over to ANYBODY. I said they were spending YOUR money to pay for the lawyers to fight the producers battle. If you want to see proof of this you can go directly to AIM-MED.org. They say right there how much they have spent on awyers to fight this battle.

    Jerry, please provide a link to where I said AIM was GIVING anything to the ANYBODY(except bad advice)

    http://aim-med.org/news/2009/10/28/1256767431/index2.html

    Also take notice how they said they had an additonal 55,000.oo dollars in testing fees for the people on the q-list from the latest patient zero. Jerry, you know how much the tests are,,,,55,000.oodoallrs worth of tests is about 475 tests….if the q-list was as little as AIM claimed, how did they spend 55,000.oo dollars on their tests. Did they test each person 50 times………..FOLLOW THE MONEY JERRY…

    Jerry, put aside your distaste for me and look at the numbers. I think you can see that they just dont add up. 190,000.00 in legal fees,,,,,,55,000.oo in extra tests for that SMALL q-list of performers. ANd look at the resons they give for the legal fees,,,,’We are trying to protect the privacy of the talent” Bullshit, they are trying to prevent OSHA from getting the employees(oerformers) so they can keep the PRODUCERS secret. FOLLOW THE MONEY

  103. IF AIM is trying to protect the privacy of the talent,,why do they give passwords(FOR A DONATION) to any producer who wants one. ANd we all know those password get passed around like a joint at an old Greatful dead Concert.

    Protectin privacy while selling password to results,,,come on Jerry, does this make any sense to you?

  104. Joe Knows Jeremy didn’t write those quaestrions I did.. and yes you have previously flat out said AIM was paying producers and thier attorney’s..

    Like I said before you can call the $125 or is it $130 we pay now i forget .. whatever you like but the fact is producers require it and we pay AIm to do the testing for us and get results and testing in return for the 125/130

    You’re stuck in legal definition hell.. in the real world we use real talk not legal definition.. in legal definition there are mutiple meanings for words such as “is”

    As far as producers are concearned again Donation can be used but the fact is it’s a monthly fee for a convience that AIM offers for producers and talent alike.. you’re right the password does get passed around, and I as talent never really cared.. and many to most dont really care.. the information found in the data base is the same information found in 2257 which is a matter of public record…

    So why care and try to keep something secret that anyone can find out anyway????? thier no logic to that.

    One answer eludes me seriously though….

    Why do you care???? you talk shit and degrade stars daily but then waste your time spending hours reading courts rulings and reading and writing about nothing but porn which you yourself say you dont watch…

    Whats the deal joe???? why the facination with something that obviously turns your stomach????

    I mean children die daily of starvation in africa.. women are raped every 15 seconds in america.. you have admitted you’re not in the industry, so why the campaign about the industry?

    Then why all the two faceness calling stars whores/sluts/prostitutes/ignorant hood rats, and then turn around and act like you have a bleeding heart and soft spot for the same people you degrade??

    PS and don’t look now joe but I possed 3 questions in my last post that started with “ike” and you answered none of them

    so maybe you should re think your comments about jeremy not answering questions but you “ALWAYS” do because you just got busted skipping questions that caught you in conflicts of your own statements buddy

  105. PS did Sharon refuse tyo give you some pussy or somethin Joe???? cause you know all you and Shelley will really do is put the people that work at AIM on the unemployment line and the fact is, is that the average person at AIM doesn’t make policy at AIM.

    Maybe your efforts would be better served stopping the war in afgahnistan or speaking out about the oil spill that is getting ready to wipe out the entire gulf coast and east coast.. or maybe even about the child prostitutes that are all over the country like Shelley was.

    Even Shelley admits she was a prostitute first and then porn second.. Maybe she should concentrate on getting prostitutes off the streets and out of harms way first. That seems more logical, as thos egirls and women are at much more risk for being killed on any given day more so then a porn star ever will be.

    i see craigs list killer targeting hookers not porn stars

  106. jeremiahsteele says:

    EXTRA! EXTRA!

    I received an interesting insider email in regards to “Joe Know”s identity. I will not give out any info about who sent me this email, but…

    Apprently, there’s a reason “Joe Know” is trashing AIM and on this “crusade”. He was FIRED from AIM for STEALING MONEY FROM THEM! It’s no wonder he has to justify his evil behavior by turning around and attacking them after stealing from them.

    More to cum…

  107. Jeremy,

    Are you serious???? LOL… how reliable is the info???? holla and then I will make a call and we’ll find out if you don’t know already exactly who he is.. LOL but if he worked at AIM I can find out with a hpone call. LOL

  108. jeremiahsteele says:

    Here is a portion of the email I received. The rest will remain confidential:

    “That guy on Luke Is Back, (Joe) is actually Scotty from AIM. Scotty and his gay lover Ray were both fired from AIM almost a year ago for stealing money. Since then they have gone on this crusade to fuck up as many things as they can for AIM. I don’t know the law, but I think he might be violating some of the same privacy laws that he accuses AIM of violating”.

    ——————
    In the meantime, here’s more on that wonderful organization AHF, and how they’re connected to fascist, infanticidal policies against pregnant mothers:

    Fyi, AZT was originally deemed “too toxic for human consumption” and literally has a skull and crossbones on the label, but because of reactionary, self-righteous, politically manipulated ignorant assholes, they’ve reeked havoc in many lives:

    http://www.virusmyth.com/aids/hiv/cfroulette.htm

    excerpt:

    Many women have had precisely this nightmarish experience.

    Jenny Guembes, an HIV-positive mother of a healthy seven-year-old boy, counsels HIV-positive women for the AIDS Healthcare Foundation in Los Angeles. “When these pregnant women come here, I tell them, ‘Look, if you have a low viral load, there’s a good chance you won’t transmit.’ I tell them that I never took anything and my son is fine. But they want so badly to do everything they can for their unborn child, that they will take anything. Anything.”

    I ask her whether she has heard of any cases where women were threatened with loss of custody over the issue of AIDS drug compliance, and she recounts the story of a client whose two-year- old daughter was crying so hard whenever it came time to give her the AZT that she stopped giving it to her.

    “They found out she wasn’t giving it to the child,” Guembes says, “and they took her daughter away from her.” It took her two years to get her child back, and she was warned that, to keep her, she would have to comply with the medical protocol.

    “Now she doesn’t miss a dose,” Guembes says somberly.

    Check out more at virusmyth.com

  109. jeremiahsteele says:

    (Stay tuned: previous comment/response to Justin currently in suspended animation; “Your comment is awaiting moderation”)

    This explains the contradictory aspects of S, (formally from AIM) aka “Joe Know”. On the one hand he claims to care about talents’ well being, while insulting us, viciously, arrogantly, repetitively.
    He makes idiotic claims like we’re “donating” money to AIM, when we are required to “pay to play”. I guess this is how he justifies stealing from AIM, himself.

    Meanwhile you got the AHF, which is part of the AIDS Establishment which has been responsible for killing people with it’s dubious death sentences and poisonous medicines, telling us they’re here to protect us.

    Just like “Joe Know”, the AHF is a money vaccuum racket acting for their own selfish reasons and profit, not our well-being.

    “Non-profit” my ass.

    Like I said mother fuckers (AND I’M SPEAKING LITERALLY), keep your dirty hands off my cock!

  110. jeremiahsteele says:

    Btw, “JRod”, are you S’s boyfriend R?

  111. Jeremy,

    Know way THE s??? noooo wayyyy …. are you serious…?????

  112. jeremiahsteele says:

    Since it’s taking Cindi forever to approve my other post, let me repost this key part:

    Here is a portion of the email I received. The rest will remain confidential:

    “That guy on Luke Is Back, (Joe) is actually S from AIM. S and his gay lover R were both fired from AIM almost a year ago for stealing money. Since then they have gone on this crusade to fuck up as many things as they can for AIM. I don’t know the law, but I think he might be violating some of the same privacy laws that he accuses AIM of violating”.

  113. jeremiahsteele says:

    Hey, where did Joe Know go?

    I don’t know.

    Sad… very sad…

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