Demi Delia Disses LIB

Demi Delia obviously didn’t like my post publicizing her show. I’m baffled as to which part I supposedly made up.  But to make Demi happy,  I promise to never post another positive free promo opportunity on Demi Delia…  lol

Here’s our Twitter conversation-

Demi writes-Sometimes I think they just run out of stuff to report so they make stuff up. Lol Im talking about @LukeIsBack @adultnewswire @ALLthingsPORN

LIB writes Demi- info I have on show sent to me by guys who run crackle. If u wld like to correct anything, just write a sentence & it will b done
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Demi writes to ALLthingsPORN To bad @LukeIsBack never reports anything correctly! Lol. Once again they don’t know what theyre talking about!

LIB writes to Demi-btw @Allthingsporn is an RSS feed, they aren’t going to talk back to you

LIB writes to Demi- That cracks me up. So you would rather I didn’t give your show free publicity, where I say nice things about it and link to it.
  
 

Demi writes to LIB- No thanks I would never talk to you. only block you.

LIB writes to Demi- feel free to clarify it. I can only go by what I see in front of me.

Demi Blocks LIB

94 thoughts on “Demi Delia Disses LIB

  1. Harvey Dent says:

    Cindy, ask her about the PS escorting and her madamming for Pimpwish. I bet she did not out that on her show.

  2. Third Axis says:

    Sounds like the response of a dumb whore who thinks she’s too important now that she is the “star” of a reality show—and the trailer is laughable, and I mean pathetically laughable. How typical of a plastic-infused, lip-injected bim’. After a season or two, she’ll be dropped, and looking for someone else to pay for the lift on her sagging ass.

  3. Fucking cunt! Tramp doesn’t want this show mentioned anymore probably after Michelle Braun plead guilty for all her information on LA Direct which includes this slut, Derek Hay, and Lexxi Tyler who all run LA Direct’s porn and prostitution sides.

    This was probably done a couple of years ago. Now it comes out after Braun plead guilty. Braun walks and serves no jail tile while Demi, Derek, and Lexxi will pay dearly for all the hell they’ve inflicted on all the women at LA Direct.

    How do you think rapper Jermaine Dupri got busted by the IRS? He went on MTV’s Cribs showing all his prized possessions which finally made the IRS bust him. True story! That’s how they got him. Now with Demi showing off her home where she lives better than 99% of the porn stars, who do you think is watching this show now?? hahahahaha

    Many of the other blogs and websites have already mentioned this train wreck of a show. So why the fuck does she care if LIB runs it too? Her own son says he hates porn stars and they all have STDs. Demi then says she would sneak in her underage son to a nightclub for her birthday. He wanted a family birthday for her and not with the porn stars that he says he despises.

    Haven’t watched it yet but read how she drags her underage daughter to get her first gynecological exam. Was she holding the 2257 rules in between her legs during this exam????

    I never wrote anything on this pathetic show because it was coming off so negatively. Now I’ll be writing it all over again and running it everywhere I can!

    Remember this earlier from XPT Demi:

    Michelle Braun. There are rumors the indicted owner of the Nici’s Girls hooker service is going to turn state’s evidence, as prosecutors plan to take down bigger fish, among others L.A. Direct. Demi Delia, recently departed from LAD, is scared shitless that the DA is coming after her because of her past connections to LAD.

  4. demi is stupid, doesnt she know all publicity is good publicity? LOVE YOUR BLOG, talk anout me and my stuff any time ~Msmandymay

  5. So I got to thinking why Demi is now against Cindi when Cindi has interviewed her before. Read the posts 2008 until now:

    https://www.lukeisback.com/?s=demi+delia

    2008 because that’s when Cindi bought LIB. Cindi even interviewed her after Randy Spears divorced her. Is Demi hating Cindi now because of the comments??

    She says on Twitter that she would never talk to Cindi but there is an exclusive interview Cindi did with Demi. Porners always scream about freedom of speech blah blah blah. But when someone says something negative about them, they want it censored. It doesn’t work that way.

    Unless Demi wants to pay Cindi’s bills, then who is she to now be hating on Cindi because of who comments here? Because the only thing I can think of as to why this sudden turnaround is because Cindi bought LIB and inherited the people who comment here. Cindi could have asked the obvious questions to Demi but she didn’t and played nice. And this is how Cindi is repayed??

  6. Harvey Dent says:

    Since Demi Delia real names has come out in the case of the Ball Player hooker article in the mainstream media (remember that she was pissed out because she did not got the car she wished from her trick) can we run the article here?

    I guess that she wants Cindy to sensor all the commenters here like Jed, Larry Horse and me who have called her as a Pimpwich madamme and hooker.
    As if people cannot read TER.

    Ah Gina, tell us?

  7. She released her real name in her own PRESS RELEASE and pretty much admitted to being a prostitute without coming out and saying yes I’m a prostitute. I wrote a story about it back then.

  8. Harvey Dent says:

    This is Glenn Ross take of story:

    http://www.adultfyi.com/read.php?ID=32540

    Part of it:
    “Los Angeles, CA – In what can only be described as a bizarre trail of impersonating a celebrity, harassment, fraud and identity theft, former New York Yankee Andy Phillips has been named in a wild Los Angeles harassment case.

    According to a Police Report filed with the LAPD, over the course of several weeks, Phillips allegedly represented himself as no less that 4 different individuals. The week prior to Christmas 2008, during various email and telephone communications, Phillips claimed to be several individuals including former Yankee, now Cleveland Indian Carl Pavano, alleged Pavano agent Jordan Kapler, and the Philadelphia Phillies’ Greg Dobbs.

    Phillips represented himself as each of these individuals in phone calls, email and text messages sent to Los Angeles resident Gina Rodriguez, who subsequently filed the Police Report and harassment suit.”

    “The individual claiming to be Dobbs then had the occasion to introduce Rodriguez to former Yankee (now Indian) Carl Pavano by phone and email. As Pavano claimed his agent handled all his business dealings, he then put Gina in contact with alleged agent Jordan Kapler, who then offered her gifts on behalf of Pavano.

    In various email and text communications during a business trip to the East Coast, Ms. Rodriguez had planned to meet with Pavano in New York City. Ultimately, it was Phillips, not Pavano, who showed up at Hotel 57 on December 29th. In the names of various individuals, including Kapler and Pavano, Phillips fraudulently made claims that automobiles and other gift items were being sent to Rodriguez by Kapler on behalf of himself, Andy Phillips.”

    “Rodriguez noted, “I am bringing these charges in an effort to expose Mr. Phillips, but also to alert these people, Mr. Pavano, and Mr. Dobbs, that this man is fraudulently representing them in a bold and lawless manner. It’s important that he be stopped.”

    “Gina Rodriguez is an adult film actress in Los Angeles who goes by the stage name of Demi Delia. Her current show, Mommy XXX, also features veteran adult performer/director Randy Spears.”

    Why some ballplayer`s agent would sent “gifts” to a middle aged latina pornwhore in LA?

    Or arrange “meetings” in NYC?

    I`m dense, some please xplain this to me. I do not get it.
    Did he liked her porn work and was giving herself some apprecition for improving her sex life?

    Or they wanted to get into a business relationship with her with the subsequent access to Pimpwich porn whores?

  9. Harvey Dent says:

    The good thing is that the Madamme was being conned so she has to sue for haressment.

    Ha!

  10. Harvey Dent says:

    I wonder if she wants Cindy to censor Larry Horse, Jed, El Glorioso and myself around here.

    Not too friendly to her and her (former?) friend the Trannyfucker.

  11. You think it’s because of Christian? Why former friend though? Christian no longer being at LA Direct I don’t think has anything with Demi. Just Derek.

  12. chuckhollywood says:

    she needs to stick with running one of derrick heys escort services, until they all go to jail.

  13. Harvey Dent says:

    No is because the other side of Pimwich, the ilegal one get blasted here regulary so she get blasted here too along with her friends the Earl, Madamme Lexxy and the Trannyfucker.

  14. Lostbutterfly says:

    Famous people ussually are a “pain in the ass to deal with”. Most of these erogant, fuck-ups think that because they got lucky with their talent, that everyone in the world has to kiss their pompus asses. Like a “JOB” gives them the right, to treat a person like shit, and then have the ball’s to lie about being in love. When talent was only part of the reason they made it in the first place. It had everything to do with luck! And luck, does not intitle any man or women to treat people like shit or to lie to them. These are the same types of people, who don’t see their kids as human, who don’t pay attention to them. Why? Because they figure that money can buy love, the same type of people who want kids in old age, because well I’m famouse and my son at 17, won’t care that his dad is OLD. Why? Because I’ll be the coolest dad there. But most if not all famouse people don’t realize, fame is a fleating thing, and old age makes everyone ugly, even them. They cheat on their wifes or husbands, they treat the help in resturants and hotels and there help like shit, by constantly making threats and demands. And because they “think” that they’re so great and everyone loves them, they can’t see that they have allienated many lovers, friends and family. Because there’s one thing most, but not all famouse people can’t do. It’s face the truth! That’s why they have so many rehabs for the rich and famouse, because if you think your the greatest person in the world, you’re going to be the last person in the world to admit that you have a problem.

  15. The Colonel says:

    You know Darrah, every time I find myself compelled to address you in a comment, I can’t help but wondering what’s exactly the cause for your compulsive, deep, sickening obsession with the adult industry and what do you exactly have at stake in all this? You have your own blog, you also work for Scott Fayner for free and on top of that, you keep commenting on this board and every other board that hasn’t banned you yet, as if you absolutely have nothing to do with your life except for obsessing with all things pornography.

    In order to be this obsessed with something, you either have to be a part of it or make a living off obsessing with it. You can argue that you don’t have to be in the adult industry to write about it, like movie critics or sport reporters are not movie directors or sport players and yet write about those industries. But your logical response, that is if you can comprehend any logic at all, is that those guys get paid to do that. It’s their job to be obsessed with those industries and write about them , but you don’t get paid for what you do all day long, do you? You just ‘do things’. I usually try to ignore you, but sometimes you just piss the hell out of me.

    For example in Demi Delia’s case, she’s an adult individual and can do whatever she wants. She can choose to communicate, socialize and work with whoever she wants and she doesn’t have to answer to anybody. How come when girls put Christian XXX on their no list, you sympathize with them and say it’s their right to accept or decline who to work with, but when Demi Dalia chooses not to correspond with Cindi, all in a sudden she’s a bad person and deserves all this shit and you even allow yourself to drag her childern into your pathetic war of words? You indeed are an enegma wrapped in irony, even though you’re tolerable as long as you take your meds and know your limits.

  16. Lostbutterfly says:

    P.S. It’s even sader, when someone who’s like the little orientle guy who sang She Bangs, on American Idols type of fame. Does one thing mainstream and all of a sudden this “person” has the write to say what she or he does or doesn’t like what the media saying about them? Doesn’t she realize that these types of reallity shows, make people laugh and generally are not taken seriously by mainstream. Except for Ozzy, but most people just laughed about how fucked up he and his family are, which I believe is the wrong kind of popularity for any show. I was on a reality show twice as the striper, it was a show to see what a girls boyfriend would do with guys while the girlfriend wasn’t around. That segment won the best-of, big deal! Some of my friends recognized me… So what? Who cares? I know I don’t and I don’t treat people like shit because I was one of the girls in Slim Shady’s first video. Big deal! My friend she has a sag card and was in waynes world and on a T.V ashow for a whole season. I believe it was called Dead-Wood, she still just scrapes by… Unless you’re makin millions and are really famouse you can’t act like a dick.

  17. Third Axis says:

    The preferred term, Jade/Sophia, is “Asian, not “orienle” (actually spelled “Oriental”). While you’re checking your spelling—which I see is a continued challenge—check the definitions as well. You’re still getting an F, although I know that you’re too “lazy” to care. Keep cheering for the English-language impaired.

  18. Lostbutterfly says:

    Alright third of ass, I’ll take your advise and give you a third serving of shove it up your ass… but have a nice day.

  19. Third Axis says:

    I think you mean “advice”… nice day back at ya.

  20. jeremysteeleofpoontalk.com says:

    What kind of severe mental dicibility (misspelling intentional) is required for a person to address another person as “person”?

  21. “In order to be this obsessed with something, you either have to be a part of it or make a living off obsessing with it.”

    That is one of the most retarded statements I have ever heard and a hypocritical one coming from you. You are obsessed with being a writer, but has anyone ever paid you to write anything? Not only do you write here for free, but you aren’t even officially affiliated with the site in any way shape or form.

  22. Third Axis says:

    J/S, sorry to keep breakin’ your balls here, but honestly, if you’re going to post these long diatribes on a public forum, get a clue. This is not like sending a quickie text to one of your friends; it’s a public display of your opinions/observations for many, mostly educated people to see – and critique. Whether you’re lazy or not, caring or not, your words are a reflection of you. Do you want to promote your porn? I think that you do. Smart women are sexy. Dumb chicks, you just want to fuck and say, shut the hell up. Which one do you want to be? That is, if you even care.

    I’d love to dial 1-800-a-big-serving-of and then lay out a Scrabble line of, “Never rub another man’s rhubarb!” Joker’s wild…

  23. The Colonel says:

    Al/Bruce, you’re the retarded one, you pityful bi-polar clown. I write and discuss the issues in the adult industry because I’m a part of this indusrty and those issues can and will effect my life and my livelihood; what do you have at stake except for jerking off to stolen porn in your crumbling, condemned shared ghetto?

    I don’t get paid for writing on this web site, because I don’t need to get paid. Unlike you, I have a healthy bank account and can take care of myself. I don’t need to stand in line behind my drunken roomate to take a piss when I wake up in the morning.

    And last but not least, I’ve been a part of everything Luke Ford since 1998, where the fuck where you then, office bitch boy? Unlike you, I don’t have to kiss anybody’s ass to be listed as a staff on a web site; and guess what, people read my writings and comment on them regardless of who is listed as the staff. I matter, you don’t fucking matter and regardless of what you say and do, little man, you are nothing and always will be nothing. Go back to spanking your monkey, you pathetic smelly monkey, unless you want to dance for me some more.

  24. Voice your support for a public option health plan so Colonel can receive the psychiatry he needs.

  25. It’s like clockwork with you going off on rants, your buttons are easier to push than the TV remote… But just because I’m bored I’ll ask you, why would I care about the opinion of a 50 year old man who has never been married, has no kids, hates women and hates dogs? You and others here live in this porn bubble where you think you guys are cool, but in the real world we think you are losers, because you are ambitionless and everyone who enters porn immediately puts limitations on what kind of success and life they can have. There is a reason why no one has ever crossed over from porn to mainstream anything, and that reason is because society views people involved in porn as throwaways, that’s the way it is and it will always be that way. It’s laughable to think otherwise.

  26. jeremysteeleofpoontalk.com says:

    I was just thinking how it’s touching to know LIB holds open arms out to all retards in and out of pornoland and welcomes them to rant to their mad heart’s desire.

  27. You think I’m a retard Jeremy?

  28. The Colonel says:

    Fuck you Alfonso, you wish you were like me, making money off banging chicks and telling them how to spread their legs for the camera. You’re not like me and never will be, it’s not that what I do is so special, it’s just that you’re not good enough for it. Hell, you’re not good enough for anything. You can’t even be a funny monkey clown for fuck’s sake.

    So after you repeatedly fail in every aspects of life, you come here on a public board, subject yourself to my insults, let me wipe my ass with you, humilate yourself and for some god forsaken reason you get a kick out of it. Frankly, I’ll get a kick out of it, too. Just don’t take yourself too seriously and don’t try to bullshit me with some college pussy boy pseudo social mumbo jumbo. Do some dancing instead, you bi-polar retarded loser.

  29. jeremysteeleofpoontalk.com says:

    No, Al. I wasn’t talking about u

  30. Yeah, that’s my life’s ambition, you have figured me out. Darn.

  31. Cool, cause I’m mentally fucked up, but I didn’t I was retarded. I would have gotten that checked out.

  32. check your myspace email Jeremy…

  33. That last one hit a little too close to home didn’t it Colonel? I don’t judge anyone, but that’s just how it is and you are well aware of it. This is why you cling to our mutual friend so much. You just don’t have regular friends.

  34. in any event I almost pissed myself laughing when I saw you in some shit I was watching today

  35. The Colonel says:

    What hit too close to home, Al/Bruce? I have more friends than I need, some of them are in the adult industry and some of them have other professions and none of them is a depraved, delusional, poor scumbag like you. As for ‘our mutual friend’, I assure you it’s the other way around, she clings to me, she likes me for whatever reason that’s her business and not yours.

    Besides, I don’t know what were you watching today, but the offer I made you in the past still stands: give me your address and I’ll send you some of my movies so you wouldn’t have to steal them from tube sites, you masturbating thieving buffoon.

  36. I sent you an email from what I remember to be your email

  37. The Colonel says:

    You mean the interview questions, right? I have 2 email addresses, I just checked them both, nothing from you. Probably that’s because you don’t have any email address from me, and you would have known this if you were going to try to contact me earlier. Still, if you want to write to me, send an email to my LIB email account and Cindi will forward it to me.

  38. whatever man, I sent it to what I had and it didnt come back as undeliverable, I dont email through middle men

  39. The Colonel says:

    Whatever, but let me set the record straight: months ago you approached me on this board and offered friendship, I accepted your offer but rightfully doubted your intentions. You immediately asked to do an interview with me over IM Messaging, I told you to email me the questions. Then, instead of asking me directly for my email address, you asked ‘our mutual friend’ for it. I wanted to test you and see if you truely want to befriend me or have other intentions. So I instructed her to give you a phony email address, I thought if you have good intentions and want to communicate with me, you’ll send a message to that address and once you realize it was a phony address, you’ll come forward and talk about it. Then I’ll contact you myself.

    As I suspected, you never sent anything to that address untill now, because you never wanted to befriend me in the first place. I don’t trust people as easily as you think, even though unlike you I don’t have larger than life grudges. Believe me, in today’s turbulent business I have so much on my plate and I don’t want to fight internet wars nor that I need to. Be my friend, burry the hatchet, keep hating me, I could care less. You would have felt the same if you were in my shoes. All in all, if you ever want to get a hold of me, you know what to do: send an email to my LIB account and Cindi will forward it to me. As far as I know she’s the LIB web master not the middle man. I’ll catch you later.

  40. Why does everything have to be a soap opera with you? Most of that is bullshit, and like I said the email did NOT come back as undeliverable so I’m not sure what you’re talking about. I just figured you might want to be a grown up and then we can speak directly.

  41. I spend all day long on my blog Colonel? If I did, I would actually update it more and have more content. I would actually have the time to log into my Myspace account and everything else I never seem to have the time for. I only do this in my spare time. I haven’t updated my blog either in a couple of days. Now Harvey will think again that I’m dancing throughout the East coast and picking up clients.

    You attack pretty much every woman that Cindi posts a blog from. So I would assume someone like Demi would be up your alley in attacking. She’s not just a porn “star” and not just a pimp. She’s worse than a pimp and you know that. We’re not talking about Jason Itzler who, from everything I have read, is a choir boy when it comes to pimps. So when Demi refuses to talk to Cindi from what appears to be because of what you and others have said about her on here, then yes she should be attacked.

    She also has the audacity to expose her underage children to her lifestyle when her son clearly said on that show that he hates porn stars and they all have STDs. Someone with a history as Demi does should never allow her children to ever be seen on camera when it comes to this industry. Because all the danger around Demi will greatly affect those kid’s lives in the future.

  42. sammyglick says:

    AL says, “There is a reason why no one has ever crossed over from porn to mainstream anything, and that reason is because society views people involved in porn as throwaways, that’s the way it is and it will always be that way. It’s laughable to think otherwise.”

    No wonder this guy hasn’t written anything noteworthy, as he can’t even get basic facts straight!

    Traci Lords, Ron Jeremy, Jenna Jameson, and Ashlyn Gere are just a few porn stars who DID in fact, cross over from ‘porn’ to ‘mainstream’.

    Why don’t you actually read a few books, newspapers and other types of ‘research’ before opening your uninformed piehole in yet another idiotic rant against people who do know their shit about the porn industry…

  43. The Colonel says:

    Darrah, nobody deserves to be attacked for choosing not to talk to somebody else. Demi Delia might deserve to be attacked for many things, but blocking somebody from her twitter is not one of them, and if you don’t understand, then of course you don’t understand.

  44. The Colonel says:

    Al says:

    ‘I just figured you might want to be a grown up and then we can speak directly.’

    You figured right, we can speak directly, but next time either ask me for my contact information or send an email to my LIB email account and we’ll take it from there. Going through somebody else won’t get you anywhere.

  45. Harvey Dent says:

    “Traci Lords, Ron Jeremy, Jenna Jameson, and Ashlyn Gere are just a few porn stars who DID in fact, cross over from ‘porn’ to ‘mainstream’.”

    With the probable exception of Traci the others were just curiosities.

  46. sammyglick says:

    Huh? Come on Mr. Dent! Next to Stern, Jenna was probably the biggest draw to the E! Channel back when they actually had decent programming. Likewise, she had a prominent billboard in NYC Times Square back in her pre-Tito days. Again, that’s MAINSTREAM exposure…of which she CROSSED over from her original career as a porn chick.

    Jeremy is in easily dozens of MAINSTREAM movies, music videos and was even on an edition The Surreal Life (again, that’s a reality show on a MAINSTREAM network, first WB and then VH1, and not some My Bare Lady nonsense off-loaded on a C-level cable network starved for content). Once again, he has CROSSED OVER from porn to mainstream.

    Ms. Gere was on an episode of The X-Files (again, that’s a MAINSTREAM show that ran for something like seven years) in a key supporting guest role. Likewise, she was on ANOTHER MAINSTREAM show in a reoccurring supporting role for several episodes (Space: Above and Beyond).

    Unless your criteria is that a porn person, to have successfully crossed over, needs to have won an Oscar, Tony, Grammy or People’s Choice — along with creating works that have grossed over $100M U.S. domestic…then I think that the point has been made, that yes…there are a few porn people who have managed to CROSS OVER from porn to mainstream (and except for Traci, they happily stayed in porn or just retired from any and all types of ‘acting’ like Gere seems to have done).

  47. glad to have the colonel back! colonel could we be friends outside of this board? also ginger lynn crossed over to main stream if not for a brief moment. and darrah i’m curious as to what you look like. rics/harvey keeps saying your’re on a dancing circuit. i don’t know if he’s teasing or not, but i’m guessing your’re hot. are you? and last but not least the colonel noted that nobody really likes to be keyboard warrior (unless fucked with first)

  48. The Colonel says:

    Pornfan says:

    ‘Colonel could we be friends outside of this board?’

    That’ll be great, Jerry. You can send me an email: thecolonel@lukeisback.com

  49. The Colonel says:

    Yes Sammy, Ashlyn Gere appeared on Blood, one of the stand alone episodes of Season 2 of The X-Files. She was credited as Kimberly Ashlyn Gere. At the time she was still performing in the adult movies. Another cross over adult performer is Rayveness who has released 2 music albums and had appeared in a number of mainstream movies including HBO’s Path to War along with Michael Gambon and Donald Sutherland.

  50. pornfan Says:

    and darrah i’m curious as to what you look like. rics/harvey keeps saying your’re on a dancing circuit. i don’t know if he’s teasing or not, but i’m guessing your’re hot. are you? and last but not least the colonel noted that nobody really likes to be keyboard warrior (unless fucked with first)

    Harvey thinks I’m a former or current porn star, a stripper, and have clients. None of it is true.

    I’ve seen Colonel go keyboard warrior on people who have done nothing here at LIB; or merely from a blog post that Cindi posted of theirs here. He’s just an angry person who hates his industry that he’s been in for far too long and longer than he had expected. Now he’s stuck and he resents it.

  51. Harvey Dent says:

    Darrah could be a obese female like Dawna Davenport or even a tranny like Divine too. Dawna Davenport, the John Waters character played by Divine in Female Trouble.
    Or a PW or a regular woman, who cares?

  52. The Colonel says:

    Darrah, did you analyze me all by yourself or did your psychiatrist help you with that? I don’t hat the adult industry, just certain people in it, and even though I’ve been in this industry a long time, but I resent nothing, sister, you can never get enough of good things.

    Of course the adult industry has it’s ups and downs like any other profession, but look at all the fresh off the bus pussies and assholes and fine, mature MILFs, where on earth can you get this much goods; furthermore where else can you make money off filling whore’s holes with cum and fist and piss and filming them doing nasty, perverted things? So as you see, there’s nothing to resent for, but at least you’re right about one thing: I am an angry person, stupid people always make me angry and piss me off.

  53. darrah, you did’nt answer my question are you goo-looking? describe yourself if you don’t mind.

  54. sammyglick says:

    Ginger Lynn…hard to say if she really managed to cross over in some significant way that goes beyond her porn persona (as all ‘cross overs’ in mainstream ultimately do manage to accomplish).

    Sure, she dated famous stars like Charlie Sheen (but then, I’m sure he banged MANY porn chicks and likewise, many porn chicks since the start of the business have mixed it up with the famous in Hollywood’s more notorious bedrooms) and had a cameo role on NYPD Blue (but then, so did Vanessa Del Rio and I wouldn’t say that she managed to ‘cross over’). Ginger also did a Metallica video that got her some notice as I think right around the same time, she returned to porn in a Vivid feature (Torn I believe was the title).

    Personally, I would put her as a near miss when it comes to crossing over to Mainstream. If she had stayed away from the drugs, and capitalized on her relationship to Sheen, then it’d be another story. In a fucked-up way, she wound up becoming the life Savannah would of had if she hadn’t committed suicide.

  55. Sammy their level of mainstream success is relative to the mainstreaming of porn in general. You let me know when any of those people get a lead role in a major motion picture in wide release, a starring role on a network TV show or release music that gets play on regular radio. Never gonna happen.

  56. For someone to have actual mainstream success it would take the public to view them as an actor first and then someone who used to do porn, instead of all them being thought of as people from porn who happened to do real acting. My best analogy would be Ronald Reagan. No one views him as an actor that got into politics. He is viewed as a politician that used to be an actor.

  57. Third Axis says:

    Traci Lords had a couple of major club hits in the ’90s, as well as several prominent roles – in TV with ‘Melrose Place’, ‘Crybaby’ with John Waters, the first ‘Blade’ film, and most recently in the Kevin Smith film, ‘Zack and Miri make a Porno’. She’s definitely the most successful out of all the crossover performers. The lack of major success is obviously based on the fact that pornies are by and large terrible “actors.” Sheesh, it’s an accomplishment for them to even break out of the Valley.

    Come on, AL, very few actors or actresses of any stripe EVER get starring roles, or hit records, in the mainstream entertainment industries, let alone win the major awards. And you’re a hell of a long way from a Pulitzer.

  58. sammyglick says:

    Yes, but it took Reagan a LOOONG time to make that transition stick. When he was elected President, and even during much of his time in office, he was still viewed by many (even his supporters), as a B-actor whose career sputtered so he got into politics (as he was SAG president, and active in supporting FDR before he became a Conservative Republican). Much of the humor and satire about Reagan while he was in office was how he was an actor turned politician (so again, it was only really recently, upon his death I would say, that people finally saw him as a politician first and an actor second).

    Yet many a pundit has said that Washington DC is just Hollywood for ugly people, so it’s not all that surprising Reagan was able to climb the ladder of political success with a little help from Bonzo.

  59. You get the point though. If your goal is to be a successful mainstream entertainer and reach the pinnacle, doing hardcore porn is going to guarantee that never happens.

    J.K. Rowling is never gonna win a Pultizer, but I’m sure she doesn’t mind.

  60. Don’t get it twisted, I don’t look down on anyone who does porn, however the fact remains that society at large does. I think people should do what makes them happy, as long as they aren’t hurting anyone else. That being said, it’s not a noble profession by any stretch.

  61. the general says:

    Has there ever been a porn star as a guest on The Tonight Show Or Letterman?(except Traci Lords, I think she has done Letterman)
    Mare Carey and some other girls were part of a skit on the Tonight Show during the 2004 HIV outbreak, as out of work porn stars. ANy other appearneces?

  62. the general says:

    And as far as analyzing the Colonel, that could be done quite easily. Youre a fucking asshole.

  63. sammyglick says:

    The root of the problem is that Reality TV, YouTube and other non-traditional forms of media has totally confused the definition of ‘mainstream’, ‘successful’ and ‘entertainer’.

    There are people who were actually quite successful in their careers (Ozzy Osbourne, Denise Richards, Flavor Flav), who have done reality TV. There’s screw-ups and hasbeens like Danny Bonaduce and Anna Nicole Smith, who have done Reality TV. Then there’s the truly no-talented such as Paris Hilton, The Kardasians, Hef’s stable…who again, have done Reality TV.

    The one thing they all share, is that they’ve each done a very successful Reality TV show. So again, to say that a pornographic performer can’t be EQUALLY SUCCESSFUL doing a handful of music videos, crappy B-movies, broadcast network TV shows, mid-level product placements, et cetera isn’t recognizing the realities of today’s media/entertainment environment.

    I say, give credit where credit is due…especially to those few porn performers who managed to do something else besides porn (and keep doing it, as in the cases cited). You could add Sasha Grey to that list…if in time, she keeps being put in stupid, idiotic, shitty independent movies by ‘auteurs’ eager to try and see if she can persuade her to deep-throat their non-porn cocks in their trailer inbetween takes, along with being in quasi-child porn-like print ads for expensive clothes worn by hipsters and douchbags.

    Yes, society by-and-by hates porn people (well in public…behind closed doors, they’re jerking off like the rest of us so-called perverts and deviants). Yes, Bobbi Starr probably won’t be cast opposite Brad Pitt in his next $100M snoozefest. Yes, it’s doubtful a children’s book written by Tiffany Minx could win a Newbery Medal. Yet occasionally, a few porn people do manage to cross-over and do a few things that are not going to give a corporate giant a headache from the nation’s religious nuts. For that, you have to give them props.

  64. the general says:

    Sammy,
    Your first paragraph above hits the nail right on the head. When I was kid we had the three networks and three or four local channels. Now, with literally tens of thousands of hours of aritime to fill on hundreds of channels, what passes for talent these days would never have even be given consideration decades ago.
    There has never been a truely successful porn crossover, and by that I mean someone who has made a consistan living(not necessarily a major star) in the “mainstream.” The use of porn stars in most mainstream media is nothing more than one time ratings boosters.

  65. fair enough Sammy, though the general is right in his last comment about there never being a successful crossover. It could be because none of them can act like you say, or it could be they never had the drive. Being a “star” in porn is easy; do one scene and you are a “pornstar.” I believe most of the people who enter porn don’t do it because its what they really want to do and a large number of them want to be well known and that’s it.

    Sylvester Stallone did porn in the 70’s and he made it, but of course porn was actually shot on film with real budgets then and it was actually possible to make the transition then.

  66. Colonel, why would you tell people you have an address at LIB when you don’t? I tried emailing it and it came back undeliverable.

  67. By my quick headcount you’ve bullshitted about being given the power to delete comments, about shooting “anyone” who sends Cindi an email and wants to do porn (sorry J, that’s what happens when you fuck with bullshitters) and about having an email here… What’s next, you’re pornfan too? Wouldn’t surprise me…. Straight bullshit

  68. The Colonel says:

    Al/Bruce, I do have a LIB email account, several people on this board including Third Axis have emailed me and I’ve responded them. Cut the crap and send me whatever you want to send, I’ll respond to you, don’t worry about that or J.

  69. The Colonel says:

    I’m not gonna argue either, Cindi has set up that email account for me, I have recieved messages through that account, people have sent messages to that address and Cindi has forwarded them to me. The last message forwarded to me was sent by Third Axis about 10 days ago. Now he has my email address and we chat often. If you too want to initiate a conversation, you’re welcome. If you have any technical problems with sending message to that account, talk to Cindi and she’ll look into it, as far as I know everything is fine.

  70. pornfan Says:

    darrah, you did’nt answer my question are you goo-looking? describe yourself if you don’t mind.

    What do you want me to say? I’m drop dead gorgeous? Goo-looking??

    Some told me I look like Neve Campbell with longer hair. My cousin looks like Jennifer Love Hewitt with smaller boobs from 10 years ago. So that’s what you’re working with.

  71. General, Traci Lords has done pretty much every late night show throughout the years. I remember her on Leno and many others. She was also on Oprah promoting her book. She also won the Film Discovery Jury Award for best actress for her comedy ‘Chump Change’ in 2001. She had a number one techno album which many of her songs were featured in feature films and tv commercials. She was a Guess Jeans girl which her commercial & campaign went global. Harvey Dent told me she now directs many movies for the Lifetime Movie Channel..

    She’s even been on the Gilmore Girls which was a family friendly teen girl show. And many other high profile tv shows. She was also in the running for the Sharon Stone role in the movie Casino.

    Many accept her in Hollywood because she was underage when she started in porn. 14 in adult modeling and 15 in porn movies. She also took acting lessons right after the scandal broke and has been a successful mainstream working actress for 23 years. She’s also kept her nose clean and stayed away from scandal and the drugs and alcohol. Traci makes her living solely on her acting, music, and product endorsements.

  72. Harvey Dent says:

    That is useless without photos Darrah, so what about photos of you wearing a bikini with a mask in front of your PC? With your site on. Sent them to Cindy so we can watch them here.

    What PW do you look more like Darrah? I know you has brown hair for sure.

  73. the general says:

    Darrah,
    I wasnt aware of all of Traci’s mainstream credits.
    Traci, was very unique. I would compare her ‘celebrity’ status to that of Amy Fisher. She is only famous because she did something illegal. Traci did not break into the mainstream because of her talent as an actress, she got in because of her infamous celebrity. What she has accomplished since then is merit worthy, but how many talented actresses, who never did illegal porn, were overlooked in order to bring her infamy to the big screen.

    Darrah, how do you think the other actresses who auditioned for the early roles that Traci got felt about loosing that role to someone who was only there because they were konwn for doing something illegal, not for their talent, or the time they spent honing their craft.

    But kudos to traci, she took dog shit and turned it into fertilizer, and it blossomed into a carreer.

    Who else from the porn world has ever even come close to her “b” or “c” level celebrity?

    Darrah, do you think Traci would have had mainstream success without her infamy as an “underage” porn performer?

  74. darrah, thanks for the description. yes “goolooking” was a typo for good-looking obviously. if you look like neve campbell then take a compliment that you are attractive. oh, man i can’t believe people think i’m the colonel as well. colonel i sent you a e-mail the other night, don’t know if you got or. or what you want me to say in it. thanks!

  75. Harvey Dent says:

    “Who else from the porn world has ever even come close to her “b” or “c” level celebrity?

    Darrah, do you think Traci would have had mainstream success without her infamy as an “underage” porn performer?”

    I do not think so, we have to give Traci the talent to use her porn past well.
    But that were the times, despite the so called mainstreaming of porn, Ginger Lynn Allen and Ron Jeremy did some mainstream crossovers too.
    That is not happening today.
    Traci did managed to handle those crossovers well,
    Ginger instead ended up drinking her own pee on the intenets.

    Her archrival from those times

  76. Harvey Dent says:

    Lest hear from Darrah now, and BTW, I’m not Darrah!

  77. the general Says:

    Darrah,
    I wasnt aware of all of Traci’s mainstream credits.
    Traci, was very unique. I would compare her ‘celebrity’ status to that of Amy Fisher. She is only famous because she did something illegal. Traci did not break into the mainstream because of her talent as an actress, she got in because of her infamous celebrity. What she has accomplished since then is merit worthy, but how many talented actresses, who never did illegal porn, were overlooked in order to bring her infamy to the big screen.

    Darrah, how do you think the other actresses who auditioned for the early roles that Traci got felt about loosing that role to someone who was only there because they were konwn for doing something illegal, not for their talent, or the time they spent honing their craft.

    But kudos to traci, she took dog shit and turned it into fertilizer, and it blossomed into a carreer.

    Who else from the porn world has ever even come close to her “b” or “c” level celebrity?

    Darrah, do you think Traci would have had mainstream success without her infamy as an “underage” porn performer?

    You’re comparing Traci Lords to Amy Fisher? What Amy did is a thousand times worse. Traci was also never arrested to my knowledge making her technically not a criminal. If you want to label someone a criminal in that whole thing, then label her stepfather a criminal who was the one that brought Traci into Jim South’s studio when she was only 14. Jim South said her stepfather brought her in and told Jim that “I’ll get her into movies one day”.

    I always heard Paramount was talking to Traci to get into mainstream work. So she was about to get into mainstream Hollywood before the scandal broke. That’s how famous she was. That’s why many in porn think that Traci outed herself to the FBI so she can get all her movies but one pulled off shelves before she started her mainstream career. But many people, including her family, knew how old she was. So it could have been anyone that went to the FBI.

    Traci said for the first few years, she got every call-back she went on for auditions. But she realized she wasn’t getting barely any of the jobs because they just wanted to meet Traci Lords and have her in their office.

    Yes the scandal helped her at first. But that novelty would have worn off 20 years ago. She has to actually have the talent to still be in the game as she has been. So her getting the part over the girls doesn’t hold any weight years after the scandal broke. Because as I said, that novelty would have worn off 20 years ago. She actually trained herself and hired the best acting coaches and worked for her success in Hollywood.

    Many in Hollywood are rich kids and whose parents are already established actors and actresses. Was it fair that they got the part when everyone knows they only got the parts because of their parents? No it’s not fair. They got their start and success handed to them unlike Traci who had to actually work for it when she came from nothing and from the bottom of the barrel of life.

    I do give credit to someone like Angelina Jolie for changing her last name so to set herself apart from her father. She’s also an Oscar winning actress making her an actual talent unlike someone like Tori Spelling who would never have gotten into Hollywood if it wasn’t for her father’s connections.

  78. pornfan Says:

    darrah, thanks for the description. yes “goolooking” was a typo for good-looking obviously. if you look like neve campbell then take a compliment that you are attractive. oh, man i can’t believe people think i’m the colonel as well. colonel i sent you a e-mail the other night, don’t know if you got or. or what you want me to say in it. thanks!

    I never said I look like her. Some have said it while I think they’re smoking crack. But I’ve always had a low self image of myself.

  79. The Colonel says:

    Pornfan says:

    ‘Colonel I sent you a e-mail the other night, don’t know if you got or what.’

    Jerry, I didn’t get any email from you yet. I got an email from my friend Sammy Glick today which Cindi forwarded to me, so I’m not sure how come yours hasn’t came through yet. Please try and send it again to both my LIB account and LIB’s Yahoo account so in case if one of them doesn’t come through, the other one does. Thank you my man.

  80. Harvey Dent says:

    “But I’ve always had a low self image of myself.”

    Check.

    Daddy issues.

    Check.

    Depression.

    Check.

    Obsessed with the porn industry.

    Check.

    Hummmmmm!

  81. LMAO, you don’t have an LIB email ha ha ha ha…

  82. email doesn’t have technical problems dick, how would you explain this?

    Sorry, we were unable to deliver your message to the following address.

    :
    Remote host said: 553 5.3.0 … User unknown [RCPT_TO]

  83. The Colonel says:

    Al/Bruce, listen you asshole, I don’t need to argue with you. I am getting messages forwarded to me by Cindi all the time. The last one I recieved was yesterday from Sammy Glick. I don’t know why others can send me messages but you can’t and I could care less. If you’ve got something to say, send an email to both my LIB account and LIB’s Yahoo account so in case if one of them doesn’t get through, the other one will; and I’ll respond to you. Put up or shut up.

  84. sammyglick says:

    I smell another brilliant (as if) article from the mind of Al Blanco. But seriously, at this rate, Mariah Milano has written more interesting, controversial things for LIB…

    While Mr. Blanco is busy tracking down The Colonel’s mysterious email addresses and wondering when he’s going to shoot amateur male talent, the rest of us will be enjoying not having to read anything written by a third-rate hack blogger.

    But while you’re at it Mr. Blanco, can you also get to work on articles about the following topics: OJ’s Search For His Wife’s Killers, The Final Resting Place of Jimmy Hoffa, Bigfoot’s Favorite Camping Spots, and Reasons Why Megan Fox Is Popular.

  85. Colonel, you should know by know at least a few people have tried to send you email there… This is complete nonsense. No one has to send an email for me to Cindi, they send it to me direct here al @ lukeisback. com… That’s because I actually have an email address here, cause I’m actually with the site… You have serious, serious, serious mental problems… That’s why Cindi doesn’t put you on, and also because she doesn’t like you. Ever notice she’s never publicly said anything nice about you? You’re a sorry ass hoe that doesn’t even realize or can’t come to grips with the fact you are being played…Don’t worry though, I’m not gonna be a little bitch like you and post the emails I have from Cindi about you, who is actually my friend and your imaginary one…

    Why is having reasonable discussion beneath you Sammy? And wonder why people look at people in the adult industry as losers… And who exactly are you Sammy anyway? “But seriously…”

  86. The Colonel says:

    Al/Bruce, I know by now that people have sent me emails there, because I have received them and replied to them. You said you wanted to initiate a direct conversation and I told you to send me an email and we’ll take it from there. But instead, you keep coming back, bitching and moaning on this public board and wasting every body’s space and time. It’s not people’s fault that you’re a bi-polar fucked up piece of shit.

    I don’t have to explain my relationship with Cindi and provide examples of my private conversations with her because that’s none of your business. In fact I don’t have to explain anything to you, buffoon. If you want to get a hold of me and talk, you know you can do that like others do, but I don’t think you want to do that, I don’t think even you know what you want, either. You truely are a miserable, pityful, small creature. A shameful being in every aspect. A parasite. A total scum bag, I can go on and you can go fuck yourself.

    P.S: Write me whatever you want, assclown. Knock yourself out. You’ve got nothing to lose because you’re already an ultimate two-bit loser.

  87. “a shameful being in every respect”

    you dissing me is like a roach tryin to dis a can of Raid

  88. the general says:

    Darrah,
    In no way did I compare the actions of AMy Fisher with those of traci Lords. I said ..”I would compare their ‘celebrity status” that is, they are both famous, or well known, only becasue they did something illegal.
    I beleive AMY fisher should still be in jail. As long as Mary Jo Buttowhatever has to talk out of the side of her mouth, Amy should be in prison.

    But I will say this about traci..Isnt is great that a 15 year old girl can make total fools out of the entire porn industry, and then go on to have the mainstream sucess that most of those in the porn industry so deeply crave but will never even come close to accomplishing. And to those of you here who would respond that you never sought that success in mainstream, it is probably becuase you know you dont have the actual TALENT it take s to make it in the mainstream.

    Sorry for the misunderstanding Darrah.I actualy like Traci, and I think she would have had even better mainstream success if she had dropped the Traci Lords name years ago.

  89. f-me, al. you still showboating the fact you have a working email address at LIB? that’s what i call a winner.

  90. the general, Traci said she did drop the Traci Lords name after the scandal. She was then getting mainstream modeling work and commercials. This one Japanese company where she did work for here in the United States found out who she really was and threatened to sue her for fraud. So she did try and it still kicked her in the butt. She has said in interviews that she then decided to stay as Traci Lords because she couldn’t run and didn’t want to hide for the rest of her life. She has now legally changed her name to Traci Elizabeth Lords.

  91. Harvey Dent Says:

    “But I’ve always had a low self image of myself.”

    Check.

    Daddy issues.

    Check.

    Depression.

    Check.

    Obsessed with the porn industry.

    Check.

    Hummmmmm!

    I don’t have dad issues. Me never meeting my biological father doesn’t mean I’m ruined for life. My stepfather raised me. I was born depressed!

  92. Harvey Dent says:

    But Darrah, you have said here that part of your anger toward men came from seen your daddy part of the family thread the women in your family, and that one of the reasons you do not want to meet your biological father is that there are many pedophiles on his part of the family.

  93. My stepfather never treated any of the women in my family badly. But yes other men in my extended family have.

    And I think I said it’s better that I never met my biological father because his family has pedophiles. Not because of him but because of his family and the ones that knew and never said anything.

    And also by just watching any news cast and reading the paper and seeing most men get away with rape and abuse and the people who defend them.

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